1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,500 Good morning, good afternoon, good evening to all you green-eyed fiends and welcome to 2 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:10,360 Fiendish and Friends episode 2. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:17,360 In just a single week there has been a wave of Bitcoin Cash excitement, news and developments, 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:24,160 including BCH upgrades locked in for May 2025, including virtual machine limits and arithmetic 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,320 and big ints, allowing for elegant and more sophisticated scripting than ever, and all 6 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,760 on layer 1 Bitcoin Cash. 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:38,880 BCHBliss 2025, the number one decentralized P2P Cash conference in Ljubljana, Slovenia, 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:45,440 has been announced for May 2025, more information coming later in the show from the BCHBliss 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,000 conference organizers. 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,360 BitAuth and ChainGraph pre-release upgrades made available on Docker Hub and live in BitAuth 11 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:59,800 IDE, allowing developers to experiment with all the Bitcoin Cash 2025 upgrades through 12 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,120 the Bitcoin Cash node BCHN. 13 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:10,720 The Reaper NFT collection originally launched on Smart BCH is now bridgeable to cash tokens. 14 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,680 Community friend Teepee has launched a FundMe campaign and will be joining us next week 15 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,200 to discuss exactly all the goodness he's offering the community and why you should seriously 16 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,560 consider funding him. 17 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:30,240 New flipstarter PurelyPeer, driving financial inclusion and community growth with decentralized 18 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:36,560 peer-based advertising, including geocaching games, has launched and has already raised 19 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:43,200 a whopping 140 BCH out of a 287 goal. 20 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:49,640 Xhandle Bitcoin made a joke about Bitcoin Cash coinciding with a 20% increase in price, 21 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,280 making BCH to over 500 euros. 22 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,720 More evidence that no publicity is bad publicity. 23 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:03,820 The Fiendish Friends token is officially claimed on Cauldron Dex and has soared to sixth place 24 00:02:03,820 --> 00:02:05,520 in Total Value Locked. 25 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,240 Its success picked up a lot of attention and we can confirm that the Fiendish token has 26 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,960 now been officially entered into the Bitcoin Cash podcast and Meme Master Luke Pryor's 27 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:22,120 Meme Coin Competition and is available on Cauldron Dex with each token used in social 28 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:28,120 games, exclusive access to goodies and services and is backed at a minimum by one minute of 29 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Fiendish services, consultation, expertise and time. 30 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:37,080 Fiendish and Friends made it into the news, published by the Bitcoin Cash Foundation's 31 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,320 weekly ecosystem roundup. 32 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:47,280 And if you want to keep up to date with BCH news, just follow their accounts at bchf.org 33 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,720 on X.com for weekly news updates. 34 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Last but not least, big news from our American friends, Gary Gensler, chairman of the SEC 35 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:03,080 who has done more damage to the crypto space than even Do Kwon, which is kind of ironic 36 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:08,800 as despite all the damage Gary did through protecting investors, he didn't protect a 37 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,280 single person from Luna's 40 billion collapse. 38 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:19,240 He has announced that he's standing down from his post in January 2025. 39 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:28,680 So give a thumbs up or a heart emoji to say farewell Gary Gensler. 40 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,320 Fiendish and Friends official stance on this is good riddance. 41 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:37,800 We all pray that this is a sign of ushering in a more forward thinking, free market, libertarian 42 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:44,880 stance on the revolutionary technology enabled by decentralized blockchains and cryptocurrencies. 43 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,420 That was the news. 44 00:03:46,420 --> 00:03:50,520 This week, Fiendish and Friends are running a new competition during this episode for 45 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:56,120 a chance to win a big stash of Euro tokens that can be used to place predictions and 46 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,920 wages over at bch.guro. 47 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,440 And I'll post a link to a deck where you can get some more information about what their 48 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,200 services offer. 49 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:10,160 All you have to do to win is come up with the very best, freshest, catchiest Fiendish 50 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:15,400 and Friends catchphrase and win 50,000 Euro tokens. 51 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,600 To enter, simply reply to this Fiendish and Friends space over the next hour with your 52 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,720 catchphrase along with a catch token friendly address. 53 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,720 Or grab the mic and share your catchphrase with us live on air. 54 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:35,740 A further splurge of 50,000 Euro tokens will be shared with everyone who joins in the competition 55 00:04:35,740 --> 00:04:39,520 with a good entry but doesn't quite make it to the winning spot. 56 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:46,480 On today's episode, we have joining us Sayashi Nakamario, founder of Badgers.cash and Fundme.cash 57 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,520 to tell us a little bit about what his products offer and why he's so invested in Bitcoin 58 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,680 cash. 59 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:58,680 And BCHBlish conference organizer Jeremy joins to talk about the hottest P2P cash conference 60 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:06,200 of the year as well as giving updates to the 2024 BCH cash tokens mean coin competition 61 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:13,600 where you can win up to one BCH just for a few minutes of your time and a few giggles. 62 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Before we begin, Fiendish and Friends is recorded and all episodes are available on your favorite 63 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:24,640 podcast platforms such as Spotify, Amazon Music, Apple Podcast, Samsung Podcast, Pandora 64 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,240 Visa, amongst many, many others. 65 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,560 We are available on YouTube as both podcast and video. 66 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Just search for Fiendish and Friends and you'll find us. 67 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,440 So if you can't stay for all the juicy information today, you can always catch up afterwards 68 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,820 at your convenience. 69 00:05:38,820 --> 00:05:43,840 And don't forget to share with your family, your friends, your pets, and anyone else who 70 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:47,280 wants to keep up to date with the hottest tech in money and finance. 71 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:52,000 On that note, let's get started and let's give a big warm welcome to our first speaker, 72 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Saurishi Nakamario, founder of fundraiser website, fundme.cash and BCH bankers platform, 73 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,600 badges.cash, where Badger coins are generated for locking up BCH for a certain period of 74 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,600 time. 75 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,440 Saurishi, welcome to the stage. 76 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,760 It's wonderful to have you on Fiendish and Friends. 77 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,760 Thanks Fiendish. 78 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,840 Can you hear me okay? 79 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:15,840 My check. 80 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:19,560 Are you there, Saurishi? 81 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,600 I am. 82 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:31,040 Saurishi, there's a mic is on button. 83 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,040 There you go. 84 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,040 Hey, are you with us? 85 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,040 Can you hear me now? 86 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,040 I can hear you. 87 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,040 Can you hear Saurishi? 88 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,040 Yeah, yeah, no problem for me. 89 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,040 Have we got a mic? 90 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,040 Yeah, yeah, I can hear you. 91 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:49,640 Can you hear Saurishi? 92 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,400 Have we got a Twitter issue? 93 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,720 Then I invite to speak again. 94 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,720 Okay. 95 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:04,360 As we can see that despite the many billions that are spent on Twitter tech and X.com spec 96 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,720 tech, there are still some issues to have. 97 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,160 Saurishi. 98 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Oh, wonderful. 99 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,080 I can hear you loud and clear. 100 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,080 That's great. 101 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,080 So welcome. 102 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,080 When in doubt. 103 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,080 Yes. 104 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,080 Sorry about that. 105 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,080 This is normal. 106 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,720 Glitches within Twitter spaces is to be expected. 107 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,320 So yeah, welcome and lovely to have you here. 108 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,120 Yeah, thanks for having me on. 109 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,240 I'm from IT. 110 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,800 So you know, turn it off, turn on again, usual works. 111 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,800 That's right. 112 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,800 It is the ultimate guide for anyone with issues. 113 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:39,880 So yeah, glad that's working because if I was to turn it on and off, off and on again, 114 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,360 we'd lose the Twitter space, which wouldn't be so great. 115 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,960 So Saurishi, I'm sure the audience would love a little introduction from you. 116 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:54,800 Who you are, what you do and why Bitcoin Cash. 117 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,320 I'll give a quick version. 118 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:04,280 There's actually a very long version on the Casual BCH podcast on Help Me Cash as YouTube. 119 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:11,880 So I was working in IT for like 10 years and decided to switch over to coding like three 120 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,320 years ago to get more involved in the community. 121 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,600 I learned about Bitcoin back in like 20, late 2010, I think. 122 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,640 And since then, I've just kind of been learning, but never really took a front seat in anything 123 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,760 just because I didn't have a coding background and feel like I couldn't really speak in those 124 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,760 conversations. 125 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,360 So everything was there. 126 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:38,000 A lot of people in Bitcoin were very technical, so it was very intimidating. 127 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:44,400 But over time, got knowledge and just wanted to do more than just kind of sit on the sidelines. 128 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:50,960 So started Help Me.Cash, which is just a link aggregation site, and started getting involved 129 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,560 in Smart BCH when it was a thing, which first got me into coding. 130 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:59,760 And then when that exploded, I jumped over to learning Cash tokens. 131 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,640 And that's where Badgers and FundMe have come from. 132 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,320 Yeah, that explosion with Smart BCH. 133 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,160 That was a painful time for a lot of developers. 134 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,800 And it's wonderful that you stayed on. 135 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:23,200 So what was it that made you decide to stay on and move your efforts from Smart BCH to 136 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,640 Cash tokens? 137 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:32,120 I've been in Bitcoin a very long time. 138 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:40,160 It's kind of the typical OG Bitcoin person that's in BCH is that it's the first. 139 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:45,160 It logically makes sense from a technical and economic standpoint. 140 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:51,120 And SegWit happened and SegWit 2.x didn't happen and exploded. 141 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,760 It's just kind of tossing the towel and then it's all in BCH at that point. 142 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,600 So I was all in Bitcoin and then all in BCH after the fork happened. 143 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,720 And I've kind of been on that the whole time. 144 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:08,400 So when Smart BCH actually died, that was a decision of I actually had a very large 145 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:16,000 EVM project and I had to decide either do I go to Cash tokens and rebuild from scratch 146 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:22,080 or do I very easily hop over to some other EVM chain? 147 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,280 And I played around with like Avalanche and looked at Solana and stuff. 148 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,240 But my heart wasn't in it. 149 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,440 I am a BCH person, a Bitcoin person. 150 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,480 But also just from the logical standpoint, Cash tokens and I think I've said this a few 151 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:47,840 places, it seems like a Solidity 2.0 for BCH where Ethereum got massively popular because 152 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,520 of its programming language. 153 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,920 And when Solidity came out, it became very easy to do. 154 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,040 Cash tokens on BCH just seems like that. 155 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,040 It's another version. 156 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,080 It's we're potentially at the beginning of another huge explosion of adoption. 157 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,760 So why not jump in first? 158 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,880 Yeah, definitely. 159 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,520 I think there's a huge amount of potential for everything that is being built here. 160 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,000 That's why we're all here, right? 161 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:20,040 Because we see the importance of decentralized money and how, I'm guessing, you've been in 162 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:25,080 the community for a long time that you've seen that from the cryptocurrencies that you're 163 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:30,720 aware of, that Bitcoin Cash has something that's built for that future. 164 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,360 And maybe, could you give some insight for those that listen to this that maybe new to 165 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,280 Bitcoin Cash or unaware of what benefits it have? 166 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,720 Why Bitcoin Cash over for something like BTC or any other crypto that you're sort of aware 167 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,480 of like Ethereum? 168 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,160 What makes Bitcoin Cash the one that draws to you and that pulls you back and keeps you 169 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,160 invested? 170 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,320 A lot of it comes down to the economics. 171 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:01,560 It's all about users and having people use it, the most amount of people possible, but 172 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:05,440 then not going to the extremes that the network can't handle. 173 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,200 So it's kind of like that. 174 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,840 The three bears with BTC being too small, BCH being just right, and then SV showing 175 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,840 that going too large doesn't work. 176 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:25,140 So growing over time to allow all those users and providing enough to incentivize the miners 177 00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:28,560 to keep the network working long term. 178 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:34,760 It's a very in-depth discussion that is hard to get across people in the very simple terms. 179 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,240 From my view, anyways, I'm bad at doing that. 180 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:42,000 But just like the overall design of the technicals and economics, it does work. 181 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,800 The design works at Hoshi the way he designed it. 182 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:51,320 So that's kind of why I've always went to follow that path of what makes sense. 183 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,800 It does work. 184 00:12:52,800 --> 00:13:01,040 Yeah, for me, there's so many aspects of Bitcoin cash that I think is so important. 185 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,520 So I think the original design of Bitcoin is just phenomenal, is brilliant. 186 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:12,120 And the idea of a store of value and means of exchange, this was the critical part. 187 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:17,400 And I think it's really interesting because the fork BTC was crippled, became the store 188 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,360 of value. 189 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,280 And it'd be very difficult to make it a means of exchange. 190 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,160 Whereas Bitcoin cash kept that means of exchange, still has some work to do on the store of 191 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,160 value. 192 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,400 But this is where people like yourself and all of the building that happens can easily 193 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,200 rectify that. 194 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:41,800 But nevertheless, the technology has continuously improved since that split in 2017 to make 195 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:47,080 Bitcoin cash even a better means of exchange and to be even more smart while still scalable. 196 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:54,040 So for me, that makes Bitcoin cash the clear winner, certainly from those two, without 197 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,520 going into Ethereum or that sort of model. 198 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:05,280 But thinking about builders, and I think we've discussed this in person, that buildings and 199 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:11,200 products is what's going to lift BCH up and get those users up and get the value of the 200 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,200 network up. 201 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:18,600 One of the products that you've created is Badgers Cash, which I've sent a link in Twitter 202 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,800 so anyone can check that out. 203 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,640 Maybe you could talk about Badgers Cash. 204 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:24,640 What is this site? 205 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,160 What made you create this site? 206 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,480 And what does it offer? 207 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,360 So Badgers is actually the second project I started working on once I had cash tokens 208 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,320 and somewhat making sense in my head. 209 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,560 And doing time locks on Bitcoin isn't new. 210 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,080 And I think BTC even can do it at some rudimentary level or something. 211 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,960 I'm not 100% on that. 212 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:55,560 So since I was having problems with my first project, I wanted to get something ready for 213 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:56,560 bliss. 214 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,080 So I decided, well, let's do some sort of time locking thing. 215 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,240 And because we got cash tokens, we can create tokens. 216 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,280 So why don't we reward tokens? 217 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,760 So it's basically just staking. 218 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,640 And so I did that. 219 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,400 So you lock BCH and you get Badger coins back for it for the amount of time that you've 220 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:16,400 locked. 221 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:22,480 And how many Badger coins do you get for a period of time? 222 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,120 It's 111 on the website. 223 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:30,600 So that's one Badger coin is equivalent to locking one BCH for one block. 224 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,440 OK. 225 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:42,920 So just as I was developing it, mostly Badgers was me learning what I can do and what can 226 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,520 be done. 227 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,560 And so you also get an NFT back when you unlock. 228 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,720 And it's honey is what I called it. 229 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,120 And right now it doesn't do anything. 230 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,080 And every time you do an unlock, you get a honey. 231 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,880 But it does track how much Badger coins that block did. 232 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:04,080 So in the future, for example, we could set it up so that the honey gets merged together 233 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,080 into one NFT. 234 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:11,520 And that's almost like it's tracking the fungible token value that the NLTs had. 235 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:12,580 But it's on an NFT. 236 00:16:12,580 --> 00:16:16,240 But you could still use that in things like the game thing that I've been working on as 237 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,240 well. 238 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,240 Oh, game thing? 239 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,240 So mostly just. 240 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,240 Did you go on? 241 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,240 It's on my Twitter. 242 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,240 It's not a hidden thing. 243 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:28,440 I think it's just that. 244 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,200 With me and cash tokens, I've just been trying to learn and do things and see what I can 245 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,200 do. 246 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,600 So I did Badgers. 247 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,600 So it spits out fungible tokens in an NFT. 248 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:46,440 And so then I made a normal NFT, what people think of, you know, just a picture token thing 249 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:47,720 that you can buy. 250 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,520 So on the Badgers cash website, if you go to Mint tab, there's a normal NFT collection 251 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,520 of 10,000 Badgers. 252 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:58,880 There's like 160 sold or something right now. 253 00:16:58,880 --> 00:16:59,880 The difference. 254 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:04,400 So again, just trying to explore cash tokens is because they're NFTs, they have a little 255 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,940 bit of data you can save on them. 256 00:17:05,940 --> 00:17:10,440 So I just stuck in a bunch of randomly generated numbers on the NFTs as well. 257 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:16,280 And those are stats, stamina, dexterity, strength, attack, defense. 258 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,820 They don't do anything right now. 259 00:17:17,820 --> 00:17:26,400 But the next step was, well, can we plug these NFTs with cash tokens, hack into a web game? 260 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,840 So there's nothing online right now except for some pictures on my Twitter, but it's 261 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:35,720 just a basic like side scrolling 2D shooting game where you got one of the Badgers and 262 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,800 you can connect your wallet and it'll see your NFT and you can click your NFT and it 263 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,880 takes your stats on the NFT and it affects the game. 264 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,360 So you'll do more damage, you'll run faster, that type of stuff. 265 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:49,960 Oh, that sounds fun. 266 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,920 And I saw your Twitter post on this. 267 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,760 You posted, you had some quite action after Bliss. 268 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,660 Oh, sorry, just to go back a little second. 269 00:17:59,660 --> 00:18:06,640 So it sounds to me then that Bliss 2024, so that was May this year, that encouraged you 270 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:12,920 to really put the pedal down and get Badgers cash out there. 271 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,920 Is that correct? 272 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:15,920 Yes. 273 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:22,680 Absolutely, I got to the hotel the day before and I was working on Badgers that night and 274 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,760 doing updates just before the conference happened. 275 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:26,760 Love it. 276 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,760 Love it. 277 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,960 And this is, BCH Bliss for me was a fantastic experience. 278 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:36,760 I actually met Sayoshi there in person and he got to give me a live presentation of the 279 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,800 stuff that he's been working on. 280 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,480 And I loved the atmosphere because there was a lot of builders, a lot of tinkerers, a lot 281 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,640 of developers there just trying out new things, which is exactly what Sayoshi has done here 282 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,020 with Badgers cash. 283 00:18:50,020 --> 00:18:51,640 But it's a really interesting concept. 284 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:57,240 The idea that you take your BCH, you take it somewhere, you lock it up in a permissionless 285 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:02,200 way that's also dealt with with a smart contract. 286 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,600 So Sayoshi can't steal your money or steal your website. 287 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:12,400 Once that contract, the time passes and however many blocks you set to lock that BCH up passes 288 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:17,120 then you get your BCH back and some tokens. 289 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:19,120 And this is a really interesting concept. 290 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:26,680 It encourages people to remove BCH liquidity from the market and to lock it up for some 291 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,680 fun and games. 292 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:35,840 But then, as I saw after BCH Bliss, you were sharing some posts, some nice images of the 293 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,840 characters that you had from Badgers cash and slowly adapting that and moving that so 294 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,720 it was becoming more of a game. 295 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,920 But I haven't seen much of that over the last few months. 296 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,800 I can't remember when the last post was, but I certainly there seems to be more action 297 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,440 after BCH Bliss than today. 298 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,440 Is that correct? 299 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,600 And if so, what's happening with that? 300 00:19:53,600 --> 00:20:00,960 Are we going to see more progression or are you calling off and working on something else? 301 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,560 So one thing I'll jump in real quick since I forgot it. 302 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:10,080 So the Badger tokens right now, there's only one use case on the minting page. 303 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,640 You can mint one of the Badgers. 304 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,140 They're 0.03 BCH by default. 305 00:20:16,140 --> 00:20:19,340 If you provide 10 Badger coins, it cuts that price in half. 306 00:20:19,340 --> 00:20:20,880 And that's part of the smart contract. 307 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:27,240 Again, just kind of experimenting with what you can do. 308 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:33,920 For the, there's been a lot of stuff happening in the background. 309 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,920 I think it's been about two months since I really touched Badgers. 310 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:44,560 After the conference, I actually during the conference, I had a little bit of a mind epiphany 311 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:51,360 of the issue is having my first project and suddenly realizing the mistake I made and 312 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:52,660 being able to fix that when I got back. 313 00:20:52,660 --> 00:20:58,840 So after the conference, fund me.cash got released a few months later, which is for 314 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,000 BCH people like Flipstarter. 315 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,240 So it's crowdfunding, but it's directly on the chain using a smart contract. 316 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,720 Since then, there has been multiple projects in the works. 317 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:17,560 A couple big ones, some I can't talk about yet. 318 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,560 Some that are on pause. 319 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,960 Myself, I have a couple other side projects. 320 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:34,800 Nothing officially announceable at the moment, but one to do with BCH loans. 321 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:42,000 Another to do with a different way to do crowdfunding. 322 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:48,620 And then that one's kind of like the first steps into the BCH DAO stuff. 323 00:21:48,620 --> 00:21:53,960 So actually being able to have people pool money together and vote on what it can do. 324 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,000 And that almost kind of ties into fund me too. 325 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:02,720 So I actually made an article a couple of years ago about bch.do on read.cash. 326 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,000 And that's kind of everything I've been doing has been like the steps towards that. 327 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,640 Yeah, it's really exciting. 328 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,760 I've got a lot of questions about fund me.cash. 329 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,680 I'd like to explore that a bit more. 330 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,480 Before then, I saw Cheep, you gave the thumbs down when Saharishi mentioned about BCH loans. 331 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,120 Is that something you want to come on to stage and talk about? 332 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:24,000 It'd be interesting to hear your take. 333 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Maybe not. 334 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,960 But if you do grab the mic, I'd love to hear why you have some questions there. 335 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,200 But yeah, looking at fund me.cash, this is really interesting. 336 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,760 So fund me.cash is, as you said, an alternative to Flipstarter. 337 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,160 And oh, Cheepie is requesting the mic. 338 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:48,200 Okay, add speaker. 339 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,560 So Cheepie, once you've joined, yes, let's hear your take on that. 340 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,040 What was the thumbs down on? 341 00:22:53,040 --> 00:23:00,920 What's your concern there? 342 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,960 You can probably only hear me on the left side if this is the same as the GP space earlier 343 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:05,960 today. 344 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,440 My thumbs down wasn't about loans. 345 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,440 It was about all of the projects that he can't talk about. 346 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,080 So yeah, so many. 347 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,920 You want more? 348 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,680 I want to know what's happening. 349 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,400 Now it makes sense. 350 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,960 Yeah, I mean, we want more, right? 351 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,600 We want more projects and we know that so she's up to some juicy stuff and we want to 352 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,160 hear about every last detail. 353 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,640 What a tease. 354 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,120 What a tease. 355 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:36,800 So my thumbs down was just about being in the dark and I don't like it. 356 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,800 So that's it. 357 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,800 You're right. 358 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,760 Let's squeeze Sire actually by the nipples and get all the information out of him before 359 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,760 he leaves. 360 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,120 Yeah, so actually, I'd like to tell me about fund me.cash. 361 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:52,920 This is something that's relatively new and is an alternative to Flipstarter. 362 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,360 So why would someone choose fund me.cash over Flipstarter? 363 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:59,360 What benefits does it have? 364 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:04,200 So the first downside of fund me.cash is there is a fee involved whereas Flipstarter is technically 365 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,200 free. 366 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,880 You just have to run the server and website and stuff yourself. 367 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:15,120 So that's kind of the flip side of the benefit of fund me is that it's very easy to use and 368 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:16,920 that's what the fee is paying for. 369 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Basically, you just go to the create page, you put in your dates when you want the campaign 370 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,520 to end, how much VCH you want to raise, and then you just throw in your description and 371 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:33,440 images and you hit go and then you hit confirm on your wallet and you're good. 372 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,000 So it just simplifies crowdfunding quite a bit. 373 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:43,480 It also allows people, pledgers, people that put money towards VCH towards campaigns to 374 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:49,680 refund at any time a lot easier in my opinion than Flipstarter. 375 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Here you need to use the ElectronCash wallet with the plugin and it does work. 376 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,280 It works fine. 377 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,280 I've used it before. 378 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,520 So I'm not talking down to Flipstarter at all. 379 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:05,200 But because of cash tokens, we can expand the capabilities a lot more. 380 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,320 And there's like so much stuff I could add to fund me that is on the list, the big list. 381 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,160 Yeah, that's the gist. 382 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,640 Yeah, I have to admit I'm a big fan. 383 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:24,000 So I've seen this happen many times with Flipstarter or the different variants of it that someone 384 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,120 left some money or gave some money to the campaign. 385 00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:31,480 It was maybe sometimes got disappeared and then didn't know how to get it back or if 386 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:38,520 the Flipstarter didn't succeed, they lost access to that particular seed or how they got the 387 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,200 money back or depending on how it was done. 388 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,960 And for me also, it was a little bit of a challenge. 389 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:51,440 Now with fundme.cash, you can use a wallet connect supporting wallet such as Paytaka and 390 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,960 you can just connect your wallet into that, send the money with great ease. 391 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,920 I haven't refunded anything yet. 392 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,960 I'll just wait till Chipe's fund me almost gets funded. 393 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,480 Then I'll yank the money. 394 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,520 No, I'm only joking. 395 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,120 But I assume that that works and works effortlessly. 396 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,840 I can certainly see it's just a click of a button. 397 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,680 So this is a great website, I think well worthy of the fee. 398 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:23,520 And I'm guessing that's why people like GP are using this because they see it as so easy 399 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,880 and effortless for people to offer their support to campaigns that it's well worth the fee 400 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,640 of sorry, what was the fee again? 401 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,280 Was it 3%? 402 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,600 So to create a campaign, it's 0.01 BCH. 403 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,000 It's a flat and it's 1.5% to claim. 404 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,360 Okay, even better than I thought. 405 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:50,600 So one thing with fund me, one thing with yeah, considering my Kickstarter for example 406 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,320 is 8%. 407 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,200 And they go can go all the way up to like 15. 408 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:02,840 After doing some research on it, which I didn't do until after fund me was already created. 409 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,880 So the one thing with fund me is that the contract is open, open source and but it's 410 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:14,280 also open in the sense that the functions to interact, allow a service fee. 411 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:21,140 So that 1.5% fee that fund me charges, it uses those function arguments, but anybody 412 00:27:21,140 --> 00:27:24,260 else can create a website that also does that. 413 00:27:24,260 --> 00:27:30,120 So if somebody wanted to use the fund me, the contract behind fund me and not pay the 414 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:34,180 1.5% fee, and this is shooting myself in the foot, but that's okay. 415 00:27:34,180 --> 00:27:39,320 They can create a website to interact with the contract and just not pay the fee or just 416 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,320 pay themselves the fee rather. 417 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,760 So they don't have to pay for it. 418 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:50,160 Fund me was initially another project of me learning and I wasn't necessarily thinking 419 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,160 this was going to be like a business, but I kind of got talked into I shouldn't be afraid 420 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,720 to make money. 421 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,400 So kind of throw it out there, see how it does. 422 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,600 And a lot of the improvements I want to make to fund me might end up being a new contract. 423 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,240 So it might get locked down more, it might not depending on things. 424 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,220 But a lot of the features of fund me are mostly front end stuff. 425 00:28:15,220 --> 00:28:19,480 So somebody could throw up their own website with a much better front end because fund 426 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,360 me's website is a little janky in places. 427 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:27,080 And it's just there to encourage people to try and do things. 428 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,000 I think that is incredibly honorable. 429 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,880 So just for everyone out there who is unaware, the point zero one BCH is roughly five bucks 430 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,200 and that's what it costs to list. 431 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,640 And I think this is a good amount because it prevents sort of spamming and just people 432 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,040 putting up all sorts of junk on there. 433 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,960 So access a filter in that part. 434 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:52,840 And what I can also say there, Sashi is the way you talk about how you set that up and 435 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,680 the fact that you're even talking about how people can bypass the fee structure that you've 436 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:57,680 put in there. 437 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:03,160 It speaks to the BCH community and that's the sort of community that Bitcoin Cash has. 438 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,160 And I would say to a fault. 439 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,160 So it's fantastic. 440 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:14,400 I love working with Bitcoin Cashes because they are very morally good aligned people. 441 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,680 But absolutely it's fine. 442 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,600 Not just fine, it's good. 443 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:25,160 And BCH has start creating businesses around their ideas, profitable businesses, because 444 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:31,680 everyone needs to finance to be able to pay their rents, to pay their food. 445 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,800 And if you want to have children, for example, everything costs money. 446 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:42,480 And so when you're earning money from your business, your BCH oriented business, that 447 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,160 allows you to spend more time, more effort and dedicate more resources and try out even 448 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,080 more things on Bitcoin Cash. 449 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,940 So this is my message to the community. 450 00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:53,200 It's okay to earn money doing what you're doing. 451 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,400 Do it fairly, do it honestly as you have done. 452 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,040 You've set the fees very clear, the fair price. 453 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,160 People get to choose if they want to accept that or not and they can choose another service. 454 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:07,040 And if they do choose to accept that, then the fee is part of that bargain of having 455 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,560 that really frictionless experience, which of course the less friction there is, the 456 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,400 more likely people are to contribute and the more likely you are to get that amount anyway. 457 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,320 And people can adjust that into the amount that they need to raise if it plays a role 458 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,320 in that. 459 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,120 So my advice to you, Soshi, is please feel free to lock that down. 460 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,440 I'm sure many in the community, if not anyone that you care about, would agree with that 461 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,920 because we want to see more developers be able to fund their BCH endeavors through their 462 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,040 own entrepreneurship. 463 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,760 So not having to ask to reach out for money because it's not always there. 464 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,000 And we want to make sure that things continue and developing in this space. 465 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,160 So yeah, that's just my take on that. 466 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,400 Yeah, it's been a discussion I've had. 467 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,480 But the cash starter contract, which is behind FundMe, is on the blockchain. 468 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,480 It's there. 469 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,960 It's not going anywhere. 470 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:08,960 It's fully open and anybody can use it hundreds of years into the future. 471 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,960 That's great. 472 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,600 Although I'm guessing maybe in hundreds of years the future will have something even 473 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,600 better. 474 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,600 Most likely. 475 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Most likely. 476 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,600 Yeah. 477 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,600 Great. 478 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:25,800 Then, yeah, is anyone in the audience have any questions for Soshi? 479 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,800 I do. 480 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:33,200 I would love to hear a little bit more about, I've been impressed to see that the traction 481 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,320 on the site is starting to build up. 482 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,200 You know, firstly, with this one campaign, two campaigns. 483 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,160 Now there's already a bit of a backlog. 484 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,720 And that's great because that's a huge, another upgrade over FlipStarter. 485 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,840 Because all the FlipStarter were hosted separately. 486 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,080 It's great for decentralization, et cetera. 487 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:54,440 But it made it very hard to keep track of what campaigns had been run before, who had 488 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,760 funded them, what they'd done, what they'd promised, et cetera. 489 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,680 But with FundMe, it's also naturally aggregated together in one place. 490 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,360 And you can just look back in the history and find those. 491 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,480 At the moment, it's small enough that you can just quickly scroll around there and find 492 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,620 what you're looking for. 493 00:32:09,620 --> 00:32:14,320 But in the future, that will become harder and harder to do, especially as like for I 494 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:20,160 am the first FundMe and I'm probably soon going to do my second FundMe campaign. 495 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,920 So it would be great then if there was like a section with or a filter or something so 496 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,800 that you could just look for Bitcoin Cash Pod guys. 497 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,800 You could just see the history building up over time to create confidence for future 498 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,360 investors, right? 499 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,360 In another campaign. 500 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,120 And in that way, get people into recurring income working in the industry. 501 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:44,840 So I'm wondering what sort of plans, if any, there are for improving that visibility on 502 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,840 the delivery. 503 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,800 Like you could have a little delivered status. 504 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,600 You could check up on people after a little while, give them a space to write an update 505 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,080 over time, anything like that would be awesome. 506 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,120 And also separately, which is sort of related to stats at the top. 507 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,560 I love the stats where it says how many BCH have been raised, how many people have been 508 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,400 funded, et cetera, as those numbers take up over time builds so much credibility for 509 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,400 the site. 510 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,560 And that's great, but that might also be something else to improve in the future in terms of 511 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,840 more metrics, graphs, linking that to how many people have delivered or how much has 512 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,840 been done, et cetera. 513 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:31,600 Yeah, the stats on the site are technically static except for the total raisin pledges 514 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,000 supposed to dynamically update. 515 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,880 But there's a bug with that right now, which I know what the problem is, I just haven't 516 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,800 got around to it. 517 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:45,960 But doing the historical, like the archived campaigns and everything around that, once 518 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,480 we start getting more campaigns is definitely near the top of my very big list, being able 519 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,520 to filter them and do things like that. 520 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,640 So there's definitely plans. 521 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,760 I got some ideas around some of it. 522 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,200 So that will happen at some point. 523 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,240 It's just a matter of when. 524 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:10,120 The only real major feature I've added to FundMe recently was campaign creators can do 525 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,740 an update now on their campaign. 526 00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:18,880 So Jeremy, like you could actually go to your old FundMe that you did and there's the update 527 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,880 tab. 528 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,380 As long as you're connected with the address that created it, it'll automatically show 529 00:34:23,380 --> 00:34:27,400 up a little edit box, just like when you created it. 530 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,440 And you can put whatever message you want in there and submit, and then it posts it 531 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,840 as an update that everybody can see. 532 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:42,240 So FundMe that I actually did for the learning classes, I think it has two on it right now, 533 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:43,760 just as an example. 534 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,440 So yeah, definitely a lot of things around that are at the top of the list. 535 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,640 It's just a matter of time to work on it. 536 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,440 Yeah, as always. 537 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:58,280 But that's super cool because then it's turning into almost a bit of an accountability, sort 538 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,680 of get for free as a part of doing that. 539 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,760 Like I already have the Bitcoin Cash Podcast website and I can make a big effort to try 540 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,560 and record a lot of what I do to build up this credibility. 541 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,360 But the easier we can make that for new people, like somebody new coming to the community 542 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,720 might not know that that's what they should do or that's how they... 543 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:22,440 So the more we can help people with the tools inbuilt right there to build up that credibility 544 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,440 and help them get the best chance of delivering the results and getting funded again. 545 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,440 That's just absolutely amazing. 546 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:34,440 Yeah, that was kind of the idea around the archive and having it set up like that. 547 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:41,160 And also it's like another thing that's on the list is allowing pledgers to vote against 548 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:46,480 campaigns that have finished of like, do they approve or not approve based off the funding 549 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,880 or what happened to the campaign? 550 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,360 And like that's a whole other expansion to the FundMe contracts or the cash store contracts 551 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:59,840 rather that is I've spent a bunch of time and I do have some like basic implementations, 552 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,840 but just need time. 553 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:09,000 And that's kind of why I did the learning classes recently or planning to do them is 554 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:15,520 just to try and get some more eyes on it because at this stage BCH is extremely powerful, but 555 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,160 we need people to actually be building. 556 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,280 Yeah, definitely. 557 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,040 More people in the ecosystem will help. 558 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,360 So Sasha, I understand you were at a BTC meetup last night. 559 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:32,480 Did you manage to get any of the people interested or the interest peak to come into the BCH world 560 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,080 and start tinkering here? 561 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,080 No. 562 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,720 Yeah, it was quite maxi. 563 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:50,840 Wasn't much progress made on that front and there was a lot of new people there to crypto 564 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:58,400 in general and they got a very big presentation about mining at home, which I just kind of 565 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,120 wanted to facepalm the entire time. 566 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,120 Oh, jeez. 567 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,000 Were they actually trying to sell that as a... 568 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,400 What were they selling that as a helping the network or making money? 569 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,640 I mean, how do you sell that mining at home for BTC? 570 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,680 Yeah, it was a little bit of everything. 571 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,800 The guys running the presentation were good. 572 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:21,600 They're actually the guys that make the bit, bit acts, little miners. 573 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:27,680 But the overall conversation was, yeah, generally industrial mining, how many thousands it costs 574 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,840 to get it working in your house to replace your furnace and stuff, which there's interesting 575 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,360 things about that type of stuff. 576 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:38,280 But you could just tell that most of the people that were there to learn have not really heard 577 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,640 anything about crypto and they were specifically interested in profit. 578 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,640 Yeah. 579 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,200 And if you want profit, you don't really want to be in the mining sector unless you have 580 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,520 millions of dollars. 581 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,640 Unless you have millions of dollars and are somewhere where the energy is particularly 582 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:58,080 cheap, it's probably going to cost you money. 583 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,040 But I think the profit is the normal reason why people are attracted to cryptocurrency. 584 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,920 We have to be honest here. 585 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:10,360 They come for the gains, but they stay for the feels, especially in Bitcoin Cash. 586 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,440 And this is where the more builders we've got, the more products that are being put 587 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,480 out there, the more people will come in and they'll see that and they're more likely to 588 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,640 come in because there's activity there. 589 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,760 There's a chance to be part of the pioneering force. 590 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,880 But I think that's the reality of whether it's 98% or 99%, but I'm pretty sure it's 591 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,320 about there. 592 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,960 People get into crypto because, hey, there's money in this, right? 593 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,800 Yeah, just to give context. 594 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,800 I'm in Alberta, Canada, and the electricity here is very expensive. 595 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,760 So any mining that you're going to do here, unless you're a very large industrial player 596 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,000 that's worked out a special deal, definitely you're not going to be making anything. 597 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,760 Yeah, I mean, I'm in Germany and the cost of electricity is about 40 cents per kilowatt 598 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,760 hour. 599 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,960 So you can't mine, not at a huge cost. 600 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,480 Just want to do a quick pause. 601 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,480 I just want to read out. 602 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:12,040 So a reminder to everyone that there's the competition to win 50,000 furu and the winner 603 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:17,160 will get 50,000 furu, runners up will get the remaining sort of just over 50,000. 604 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,160 We've had a few entrants here. 605 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,160 I just like to read out this one. 606 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,160 I think this is pretty cool. 607 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,720 So a Finnish from friends catchphrase, real money, real tokens, real talk. 608 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:25,720 Finnish from friends. 609 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:26,720 It's nice. 610 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:29,080 There's also some other ones, but it would take the next hour to read them out. 611 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,200 So I'm going to leave those ones to the side, but maybe they're going to be... 612 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,040 I certainly entered into the competition for the runner up prize, but if there's anyone 613 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:41,960 out there with a great catchphrase, do comment it in under this spaces for a chance to win 614 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,720 that 50,000 furu or one of the runner up prizes. 615 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,840 So actually thank you so much for your time. 616 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,360 And it's really, I'm so privileged to have met you in person. 617 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,840 And I think that what you're doing for fun is already a lot more than what many people 618 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,440 are doing for serious. 619 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,360 So I'm really excited to see the outcome of the projects that you're working on. 620 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,720 And I can't wait until you can share some more details. 621 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:12,920 And I really, I would be wonderful to be able to see you again in person. 622 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:18,400 I really hope that some magic happens and you're able to attend BCH Bliss next year 623 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,880 with your wife. 624 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,680 And, but if not, we understand. 625 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,120 But thank you so much for being here. 626 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,720 And it was always a pleasure. 627 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:28,720 Yeah. 628 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:30,280 Thanks for having me. 629 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,560 He's trying to talk me into it. 630 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,560 So we'll see. 631 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,200 Oh, fantastic. 632 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:43,600 This is, you know, we had, we saw BCH Bliss, there was 60 tickets sold. 633 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,200 And what I'm, I'd love to see it. 634 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,800 That's the majority of the people that went there from what I experienced had a really 635 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,920 nice time, shared some, some great moments with each other. 636 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,920 And I'm really would love to see the majority come back and then to grow on that with new 637 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,920 fresh entrance to the BCH Bliss experience. 638 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,320 And while we're on the BCH Bliss topic, we've got Jeremy here. 639 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,160 So please welcome Jeremy, one of the organizers of BCH Bliss, also developer behind Celine 640 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:15,480 Wallet and organizer of the 2024 BCH Cash Tokens Mean Coin Competition. 641 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,480 Jeremy, welcome. 642 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,480 Second show. 643 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,480 You're already your second. 644 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,480 Glad to be here. 645 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,480 I'm a regular. 646 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,480 You're a regular. 647 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,480 Yes. 648 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:29,920 Before we dive into the most exciting topic that you've come to talk about BCH Bliss, 649 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,240 I just want to have a quick update. 650 00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:33,080 I'm sure many people are interested. 651 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,840 How's the Mean Coin Competition going? 652 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,920 How many coins have been submitted so far? 653 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,720 And could you talk a little bit about the very best of the tokens that have been entered? 654 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:45,280 And I'd love to know one of the worst. 655 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,680 Well we've had a, we've had a mix. 656 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,820 To be honest, I haven't looked at the actual wallet where we're accepting the submissions 657 00:41:52,820 --> 00:41:56,080 yet because I want to get a good sense from myself. 658 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,960 If I see the tokens coming up, you know, on my social media feed, if they're doing a good 659 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,600 job marketing, they're attracting attention. 660 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,480 They're attracting buzz without me necessarily knowing that they're entered immediately, 661 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,480 right? 662 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,800 Because that's exactly how you experience a token in the real world. 663 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,840 You're not, you know, you don't have a list of these are the things I want to look into. 664 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,480 You know, you just see what's out there and then what jumps out at you is what's doing 665 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,520 the best job of marketing and getting your attention. 666 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,480 So I couldn't give you the stats on the exact amount of submissions. 667 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:33,920 I know for sure we have the fiendish token that you have done, which has been quite a 668 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,240 strong entrance, at least so far. 669 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:37,240 It's listed on Cauldron. 670 00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:42,400 It has a fascinating concept with being linked to your time. 671 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,880 It has nice graphics. 672 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,920 You've done this show as a tie in to that. 673 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,640 So that's very impressive work already. 674 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,360 And I think even if just that came out of the competition, it already would have been 675 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,360 worth that time to run. 676 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,560 But we've had a couple of others as well too. 677 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:04,640 I've seen Yorn and Smile Token have both been created and they've had some more sort of, 678 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,640 I don't know what the word is, not Pepe style graphics exactly, but more of that kind of 679 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:15,840 internet cartoon look has been catching my eye a little bit. 680 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:21,280 They've done some promotions on Twitter and so forth as well too. 681 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,680 So we're generating some buzz there. 682 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,200 And then obviously we have the two categories. 683 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,440 So people can submit in the cash tokens. 684 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,440 There's been some work there. 685 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,560 Paul, shout out to him as well. 686 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:39,880 He made a video that you've referenced before I know too about how to make coins and how 687 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,440 to list them on Cauldron and so forth. 688 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,560 So that was also very inspiring because part of the goals of the competition is to drive 689 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:54,520 not only using the tooling, but actually explaining it, doing tutorials and creating new tooling 690 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,600 and where it's needed for other people to follow up. 691 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,800 So that might also be kind of in the running. 692 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:08,120 I don't know whether he submitted a token that he made as a test or whether he's going 693 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:13,560 to or if it will just be that video, but that's also caught my eye as something maybe was 694 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,560 rewarding. 695 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:20,840 And then we have the non-cash tokens section like we did last year with the people can 696 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,840 do images. 697 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,120 We've had a poll submitted actually, which I quite liked. 698 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,800 I think we've had at least one, probably maybe two videos as well. 699 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,320 So there's competition is quite hot in that category as well. 700 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,000 So it's maybe you could maybe you could share some. 701 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,640 Have you retweeted those ones? 702 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,460 I haven't been retweeting them all too much. 703 00:44:45,460 --> 00:44:49,600 And that's honestly a bit of a state of the BCH ecosystem. 704 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:55,280 These days there's so much going on that I can't just retweet, you know, absolutely everything. 705 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,200 So I have to be a little bit selective. 706 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,200 There's so much going on. 707 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:03,680 But if you go on my profile and you click on the pin post and then scroll down in the 708 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:10,080 comments there, you can see people are replying with their images and the videos and all kinds 709 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,080 of stuff. 710 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,080 There's actually, gosh, I'm just looking now. 711 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,080 There's some new ones that I hadn't seen before. 712 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,080 It's crazy. 713 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,440 There's too much stuff going on right now, BCH. 714 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,840 I've had this thought as well. 715 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,680 So for everyone that's listening, just tone it down because I'm also someone I like retweeting 716 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,760 when I see stuff that's like, hey, that's really interesting. 717 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,760 That's great development. 718 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,760 I like retweeting that. 719 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,800 And I do feel that I just pick up Twitter and everything I read is like, yes, this is 720 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,800 awesome. 721 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,800 Retweet. 722 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,800 Okay, that's 20 retweets in the last hour. 723 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,960 I better cool it down. 724 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,240 So yeah, head on to Jeremy's profile. 725 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,440 And I'm actually just going on there now. 726 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,600 Let's see. 727 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,400 The bar is going up definitely for earning a retweet from me. 728 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,440 And that's such a brilliant sign as the ecosystem grows. 729 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:01,640 When I started the BCH podcast, I had to do a little bit of manufacturing something to 730 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,640 talk about. 731 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,560 There wasn't necessarily tons going on within BCH. 732 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,960 Had to look in the rest of crypto and have different guests or talk about the history 733 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,040 things that were happening in the past. 734 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:19,080 But these days, there is absolutely no shortage and I just cannot cover everything. 735 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,720 So that's just great. 736 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:26,600 The scene is just starting to really take off in the amount of energy and activity and 737 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,600 different elements. 738 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,760 So that's a great thing. 739 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,880 And I love to see it, but does have the natural side effect that the selective pressure becomes 740 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:42,360 higher and higher and higher to break through in terms of getting retweet or segment on 741 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,400 the show or something like that. 742 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,400 And that's good. 743 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,920 That's just the sort of a capitalist process. 744 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:53,640 It's really iteration driving quality as people try and deliver bigger and bigger announcements 745 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:59,720 or projects or ideas to get that mindshare to an increasingly large audience as well 746 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:01,200 too, which is amazing. 747 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,200 Yeah, definitely. 748 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,840 Yeah, it's a really exciting moment for the community. 749 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:11,600 I genuinely wish we had some sort of tracker of if I was to log that, how many interesting 750 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,000 BCH developments I see, like genuinely interesting developments. 751 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,640 I'm convinced that the last few weeks alone have been just mind blowing. 752 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,640 Like XO being announced. 753 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,640 I mean, just today, I think it was today, I don't know, it's moving so quickly. 754 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,960 It had Cauldron decks, had their upgrades and it looks just so much better now. 755 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,840 And you can see all the transactions really easily that have happened. 756 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,080 But it's just continuous. 757 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,880 It's just things pinging off left, right and center. 758 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,520 And it's a great time to be in the community. 759 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,880 I love seeing this development. 760 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:47,280 So yeah, everyone is invited to join this cash tokens meme coin competition. 761 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,120 Just go over to Jeremy's X handle. 762 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,480 So that's at the BCH podcast where you can check out the rules. 763 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,400 I've also posted it in the links. 764 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,760 You've got linked to the rules and guidance on how to submit your meme coin for a chance 765 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,880 to win one BCH. 766 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,740 And now we come to the most exciting topic of all. 767 00:48:05,740 --> 00:48:11,880 So I had a great time this year, the start of the year at BCH bliss 2024, where I got 768 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,600 to meet all the wonderful, many wonderful people here. 769 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:22,440 Dago was there, Jeremy, of course, some other people that I won't mention. 770 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:27,120 But there was just so many, so many people there from the community and it was a great 771 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,120 experience. 772 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,240 And I thought maybe, you know, was this just a once off of experiencing such a moment, 773 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:38,480 a monumentous occasion, but no, the news came out just after the last Phoenix and Friends 774 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,480 that BCH bliss 2025 has been greenlit. 775 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,520 So Jeremy, I'd love to hear all about that. 776 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,520 Yes. 777 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,240 Well, I buried the lead a little bit. 778 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:50,760 I was trying to I said like, oh, well, I'm going to be making an announcement of an announcement 779 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,760 kind of thing. 780 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,760 And you were like, what are you talking about? 781 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,520 What does that even mean? 782 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,400 But that's what it was. 783 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,080 We're bringing back bliss for a second year. 784 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:07,200 So when we first ran it last year, obviously, it was a bit of an experiment. 785 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:16,440 You know, I mean, I have kind of a big vision for the whole bliss brand and idea because 786 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:22,680 I had seen you can just look in the larger cryptocurrencies on the coin market cap ranks 787 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,520 and just see, look, BCH is better than these coins on a lot of aspects. 788 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:34,800 You know, it might be more scalable, it has better technology, has a more dedicated community. 789 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,920 It has a smoother governance process. 790 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,120 It has more innovative projects, more passionate people. 791 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,800 And then you sort of look, OK, well, there's going to be a reason that we are number one. 792 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:46,800 Right. 793 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:47,800 So what are those reasons? 794 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,440 Where are we lacking and what do we need to fix? 795 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,200 And there's a few things in that in that bucket. 796 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,240 You know, it's a smaller community. 797 00:49:55,240 --> 00:50:00,320 There was a lot of problems with the history, various people lost money like the coin flex, 798 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,040 bridge scam and so forth. 799 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,040 Right. 800 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:08,400 But one of the most noticeable things that we're really lacking to massively increase 801 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:14,600 both our credibility and our visibility, as well as improve the network effect within 802 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:21,200 the community was conferences, essentially was being like physical events, you know, 803 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,600 in 2020, 2021. 804 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,080 There was a coronavirus and stuff and there just weren't any conferences. 805 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,800 2022, we had St. Kitts, which was great. 806 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,160 And I know I was thinking the other day, you know, that was just past two years ago. 807 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,520 Now that was in November of 22. 808 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,840 And when we were there, I remember saying, I'm sure to you and other people like, wow, 809 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,880 this is going to be looked back on as a real historic moment. 810 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,160 Like if you were here for this, you truly were one of the BCH OGs. 811 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,160 Right. 812 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,800 And then that was the conference was great and everything, but for a variety of reasons, 813 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,560 it didn't recur the next year in 2023. 814 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,440 So in 2023, we had a bit of a gap. 815 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:08,800 And so coming up to sort of more the end of 2023, I thought, well, for 2024, we really 816 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,300 do want to have a conference. 817 00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:18,120 And Jonathan had this idea to have a sort of a meetup, like a small technical meetup 818 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:23,280 to celebrate the upgrade, because that's one of the big features that BCH has is that we 819 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,120 have a regularly scheduled upgrade that you know when it's going to be. 820 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,120 And it's a bit of a shelling point. 821 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,120 Everyone can get excited. 822 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,200 Everyone can get hyped up going into it and stuff. 823 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,840 And in the past, we've done just live streams where people can join online. 824 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:44,120 But that's sort of, you know, it's really not as exciting as being there in person, 825 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,200 you know, with a room full of people that are so excited. 826 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:55,880 So for that reason, there was a lot of ideas that I had as to like, well, we need a conference, 827 00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:01,080 you know, in my ideal vision in the future in 15 or 20 years when Bitcoin cashes its 828 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:06,280 global reserve currency used by billions of people, there would obviously be some kind 829 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,160 of mega festival or something. 830 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:15,640 You know, the NFL has the Super Bowl, the NBA have their finals, big, you know, artists 831 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:25,000 have Glastonbury and anything that is significantly large enough as a cultural has some kind of 832 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:30,200 monumental in person meetup type event, right? 833 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,160 And crypto shouldn't be any different. 834 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,960 So because BCH was lacking in that so much, I thought, well, this is a great chance for 835 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,560 us to step into the breach there and try and create something that we've been super lucky 836 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,560 this year because we had bliss and that was great. 837 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,800 And then also the BCH Argentina, which is awesome. 838 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,440 So we've got two conferences this year, and there's already two announced for next year 839 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,400 between bliss and the Townsville guys. 840 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,280 And I don't know if anybody's going to announce any other ones, but at the very least, that 841 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,560 means we're now getting multiple conferences a year. 842 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:08,840 So you can really see that the theme is growing, but we did the first bliss, like I said, is 843 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,840 a bit of an experiment on it. 844 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,520 I did, you know, a big vision for it, but you never know until you run it and people 845 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,960 come and actually enjoy it. 846 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,880 And as the organizers, we felt that everything went well. 847 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,840 We didn't have any problems, you know, we found some good sponsors and so forth. 848 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,840 There were some amazing people that turned up, right? 849 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,000 There's some real surprises when all of a sudden people started speaking and you're 850 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,240 even though you've never heard this person, the voice, but you've seen the way that they 851 00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:39,280 write and all of a sudden, hang on a minute. 852 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,280 I know you. 853 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,280 Yeah. 854 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,360 And that was a really amazing experience that you could only have in person. 855 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:51,840 Yeah, that was a huge thing that meant that we clearly had done something right, that 856 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:57,680 we had earned the trust of people in the community to come out to an event like that. 857 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:03,400 And we were, we did make an effort to sort of try and respect people's privacy and so 858 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,320 forth that they didn't want to be in photos from the event and all that. 859 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,480 And so going forward, we want to obviously continue that. 860 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:20,200 And so bliss really is trying to be, well, Jonathan sees it as a builder focused conference. 861 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,200 And I think that's, that's right. 862 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:26,560 First and foremost, he is very heavy on the technical aspect and celebrating the upgrade. 863 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,880 And I love all that. 864 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:34,080 But in my mind, it's got that element, but it is also a bit of a celebration of BCH as 865 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,080 a whole. 866 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,400 And it needs to be an event for the community. 867 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,680 And I think those two strands work together quite nicely. 868 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,880 So yeah, we're bringing it back. 869 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:44,880 Exactly. 870 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:45,880 Yeah, exactly. 871 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,880 All right. 872 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,880 So I've got some important questions. 873 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:54,560 I guess a lot of people here are interested to know when are the tickets going on sale? 874 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,280 So we just put out a video. 875 00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:01,880 It's on the BCH bliss Twitter accounts pinned there announcing it. 876 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,480 So we announced on November the 15th, which is the lock in day for the VM limits. 877 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,440 So it kind of was nicely coincided. 878 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,800 But tickets will be on sale January the 15th. 879 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:19,720 So you'll have four months and then the conference starts on the 12th or 13th of May. 880 00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:23,480 Really, I guess people I'll be I'll definitely be there on the 12th. 881 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:29,040 But the actual conference starts on the 13th, 14th, 15th, be able to get tickets four months 882 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,040 in advance. 883 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:35,000 Last year, we also announced that we did the tickets in January, but that was also just 884 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,520 announced at that time, right? 885 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:41,040 This year, we're really trying to give a bit more lead time for hype and everything. 886 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,720 But we know that obviously people are going to be busy during Christmas and so forth. 887 00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:53,240 So in January 15th, we'll be going live with the ticket sale on TapSwap like we did last 888 00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:54,240 year. 889 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:59,200 We might also see considering maybe having an option just that you can pay in pure BCH 890 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,080 and then get your Belma allocated at the door. 891 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:08,320 We had some people who weren't really up to date with the latest in the BCH ecosystem. 892 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,520 It's moving so fast that we're starting to leave people behind a little bit in that even 893 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:17,360 if they were crypto fans, they couldn't really get their head around the Wallet Connect and 894 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,800 TapSwap and all that. 895 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:19,800 Right. 896 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:20,800 But they still wanted to be a part of it. 897 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,000 So we're going to try and find a way to accommodate those people, I think. 898 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,560 But it will be January 15th sale on TapSwap. 899 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,920 Obviously, we'll do a big announcement and post about it. 900 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,960 There'll be the Belmas this year. 901 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,960 So last year, it was the Jessicas. 902 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,320 This year, it's the Belma, NFTs. 903 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:43,360 You can obviously choose your favorites from the ones that are listed. 904 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:48,840 We'll probably do a variety of prices like we did last year within a certain range. 905 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,600 And then obviously, that will be taken into the event like we did last year. 906 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,920 It's really a crypto conference. 907 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,240 It's not like the crypto where we're all making money. 908 00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:03,440 It's like to be at the event, you actually have to be using the latest tools and actually 909 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:08,000 engaging with crypto as it's going to become popular and common in the future. 910 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,400 We're really pioneering that in practice. 911 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,400 I love that. 912 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,240 And I think this is great to take into consideration, as you say, the people that are being left 913 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,240 behind. 914 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,680 There might also be people very new to BCH that just want to come because they want to 915 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,760 experience what the ecosystem has to offer. 916 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,200 And I don't think, for me, a conference should be inclusive. 917 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,160 If people want to come, they should be able to come. 918 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,760 Of course, they have to pay in BCH. 919 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,080 In some way, I think that's the right mentality. 920 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:40,600 But to make that as easy and effortless for people, I think it's a good and a smart way 921 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:41,600 to go. 922 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,400 And just for everyone out there, I am financially involved in that because I've got a whopping 923 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,280 massive 100 euro bet to fill out all the seats. 924 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,360 So I want to make that frictionless as possible because I want to fill up those seats and 925 00:57:53,360 --> 00:58:01,040 make sure that we make it just as before, really just as exactly the same atmosphere, 926 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,840 just with a stick of dynamite up its ass, just bigger, better. 927 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,360 So you said you mentioned about the prices. 928 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,280 Are the prices going to be similar to last time? 929 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,120 Have you got any indication of how that's going to look like? 930 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:15,120 Well, yeah, I don't want to make any promises at this stage. 931 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:19,000 Certainly, because obviously crypto is volatile. 932 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,360 So who knows by January the 15th, certainly with how the market is now, who knows how 933 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,920 much a BCH is going to be worth. 934 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:32,840 But what I probably can say is that last year, we tried to find a nice sort of middle ground 935 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:39,560 that was cheaper than most of what the sort of crypto industry in quotation marks would 936 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:45,840 go to charge for an event because obviously we appreciate that we want to make it financially 937 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,680 accessible to as many people as possible. 938 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,960 And people also do obviously have to spend money in traveling to the event, getting their 939 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,600 hotel and staying in the area and being on a bit of a vacation. 940 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:02,360 So we do want to try and keep things accessible. 941 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:09,540 Last year, the tickets were roughly, it was about $250 at the US dollars at the time that 942 00:59:09,540 --> 00:59:12,080 we set the prices. 943 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:17,560 But then they were fixed in BCH and the BCH price did fluctuate significantly between 944 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:24,320 the time that we set them and then the time that the actual event was. 945 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,440 I'm getting some feedback finished. 946 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,840 And then so once we had that set, we just stuck with it, really. 947 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,920 And I think that will probably be the same strategy for us this year. 948 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,760 I think as we're getting close to the ticket sale, we'll pick the price that we believe 949 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:45,920 is suitable and lift up the Bellmers and then obviously they'll trade and they can also 950 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:51,200 trade on the secondary market if there's tons of additional demand. 951 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:57,280 But I think the strategy of setting the price in BCH is a good one because the price doesn't 952 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,640 change for BCH holders. 953 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:05,760 If the price goes to the moon in the couple of months, well, then that might make it hard 954 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,360 for people who want to scramble for the last minute. 955 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,640 But if you are already a BCH holder, then at least some of your wealth is denominated 956 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:17,320 in BCH and there's no actual change to the price. 957 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:22,560 So it's another way that we're pioneering and thinking about operating on cryptocurrency 958 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,760 as a full economy. 959 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:32,440 But we are going to try and make things accessible as we can and we'll also be responsive to 960 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:33,440 ticket demand. 961 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:38,000 So perhaps if there's overwhelming demand, we might release another trend at a lower 962 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:45,440 price or if we get a lot of extra sponsors that might also factor into our decision making. 963 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,480 But I can't make any promises there. 964 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,920 Yeah, that's understandable. 965 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,080 It's exciting. 966 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:58,280 And do we have some people that are well known that will be attending that aren't part of 967 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,280 the Bitcoin Cash community? 968 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,280 Well, we'll see. 969 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:09,280 You can never really tell until the day and obviously, particularly with the development 970 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,200 ticket sales, we don't even know. 971 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,520 We don't have the information of people's names and addresses. 972 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,920 And that defeats the whole point of crypto. 973 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,520 Anybody can just go on and buy a Belmer and whoever rocks up at the door, people could 974 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,960 even be trading them after the fact. 975 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:32,800 So whoever rocks up at the door with the Belmer is the one that gets it, really. 976 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:41,160 But that said, you do sort of get a bit of a sense as people are talking before the conference. 977 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:48,920 We certainly have seen some interest this year from Peter Risen, who is a very OG Bitcoiner 978 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,160 and a big blocker from before the fork. 979 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,520 He did a ton of work into scaling research and stuff. 980 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,960 Everybody who isn't familiar with his things can look up what he was involved with. 981 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:04,680 And he sort of drifted away from BCH for, I guess, a variety of his own reasons. 982 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:09,800 But having, I guess, seen some of the blitz last year and looking into it this year, he's 983 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,640 also kind of said a little bit like, I might be interested in attending. 984 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:18,880 So we're going to see what we can do to get him along because that would be a huge boost 985 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:25,440 for the community to be seeing him in action once again and really engaging with the project. 986 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:31,880 And then we've also seen a little bit of interest from Eric Wall, my, I don't know what the 987 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:41,520 word is, online frenemy who famously started the Taproot Wizards in 2023 after capitulating 988 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:46,160 on several years of believing the Lightning Network was going to fix everything. 989 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:53,640 So he's had a bit of a journey in appreciating Bitcoin through different lenses and said 990 01:02:53,640 --> 01:03:00,600 that he was going to attend last year to come and really learn from the BCH's latest innovations 991 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,080 and so forth. 992 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:06,440 And then at the last minute, he wasn't able to attend and he was honestly quite gracious 993 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,200 where he let me know privately and all that. 994 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,360 So I appreciate him for that. 995 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:17,520 But when this year was announced, Jonathan poked him on Twitter and said, Eric, are you 996 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,280 considering coming along this year and maybe fulfilling your promise? 997 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,640 And he immediately replied and said, I'll be there. 998 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:30,320 So we'll see whether or not he is in attendance. 999 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,320 But that would be really cool. 1000 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,160 I would love to meet him in person. 1001 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,120 He's done a lot for Bitcoin in his own way. 1002 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:44,920 And I also respect how much he has been able to mature in his understanding of the technology 1003 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,120 and the history and the community. 1004 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:51,840 And certainly that would also bring a lot of attention, obviously, to the event if we 1005 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:58,640 were attracting people who were previously quite outspoken critics or skeptics of BCH. 1006 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,280 So there's a lot of potential there. 1007 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,720 I mean, this is only we only just announced this one week ago. 1008 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:04,720 You never know. 1009 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,840 We still have another six months before the event. 1010 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:13,040 So who knows what could happen or what kind of attendees we'll end up with. 1011 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,600 Well, thanks so much for the information. 1012 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:16,600 That's exciting. 1013 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,040 Yeah, someone like Eric Wall. 1014 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:23,320 So however anyone thinks about him, having someone that's that prominent on the cryptocurrency 1015 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:29,280 scene to have someone like that come to a Bitcoin Cash Conference will bring in a whole 1016 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:34,320 new set of eyes and will likely sell them more tickets for people that are sort of interested. 1017 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:35,760 OK, what's going on here? 1018 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,640 Because if it's interesting, someone that's so deep in the ecosystem but playing for another 1019 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,480 team, then there must be something here worth investigating. 1020 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,320 So thanks, Jeremy, for that, and I can't stress enough for everyone that is interested in 1021 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,240 Bitcoin Cash and wants to meet their heroes. 1022 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,320 BCHBliss is the place to be. 1023 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,960 So I will definitely be joining. 1024 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,440 I know Cheapie's going too. 1025 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,440 So he's already promised that. 1026 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,440 That's fantastic. 1027 01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:58,440 Well done. 1028 01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,440 We've got to sell those tickets. 1029 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,440 We've got 150 seats to fill. 1030 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,440 We're going to get everyone done. 1031 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:02,440 I'm joking. 1032 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,440 Cheapie said he probably won't be able to come because it's so crowded. 1033 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:04,440 So we've got to get everyone done. 1034 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:05,440 So we've got to get everyone done. 1035 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:06,440 So we've got to get everyone done. 1036 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,440 So we've got to get everyone done. 1037 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:08,440 So we've got to get everyone done. 1038 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,440 So we've got to get everyone done. 1039 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:10,440 So we've got to get everyone done. 1040 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,760 I'm joking, Cheapie said he probably won't be able to come because he's already sort 1041 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,880 of gave his word to another conference, a Bitcoin Cash conference. 1042 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:19,880 But let's see. 1043 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:24,600 Maybe if the Bitcoin Cash price rises, as we all suspect, over the upcoming months, 1044 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,880 then Cheapie will be able to join too. 1045 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:28,880 So I've noticed the time. 1046 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,320 We are over the hour. 1047 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,480 So it's time to come to the end of Phoenix and Friends. 1048 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,120 Thanks again to our special guests, Jeremy and Saoshi Nakamario. 1049 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:42,880 Please don't forget to follow them at the BCH podcast and Saoshi helped me respectively. 1050 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,760 You enjoyed the show and want to show your appreciation. 1051 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,680 Please feel free to drop some BCH or a Phoenix token into our wallet. 1052 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,240 The cash token address is in the description of our ex-profile. 1053 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:59,680 I'll pick up an exclusive Phoenix and Friends episode 2 NFT available for 0.05 BCH. 1054 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:04,720 There are only five unique NFTs per episode of Phoenix and Friends, also available at 1055 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:05,720 tapswap.cash. 1056 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:11,320 A Phoenix token will be given out to each one of our special guests today. 1057 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:15,000 And so all the Phoenix and Friends fans out there, all we're looking for is one Phoenix 1058 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:20,040 token is to send to that address linked in the ex-profile to cover the next episode, 1059 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:24,840 Phoenix and Friends number three, next week at 1 p.m. Central European Time. 1060 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,280 So just one token for 60 minutes of goodness. 1061 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:32,220 On that episode, we've got Cheapie from the Bitcoin Cash Foundation to talk about his 1062 01:06:32,220 --> 01:06:37,860 dedication and his dedicated work in the ecosystem and his current FOMI designed to allow him 1063 01:06:37,860 --> 01:06:41,960 to continue at the volume and pace he has been doing over the past year. 1064 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:46,880 We've got Base Poker HQ to talk about their new BCH supporting poker platform. 1065 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,840 We've got something excited in the community lined up around this. 1066 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:57,120 And also Milan, formerly Mira Hurley, which many of you will know from the Nano community 1067 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,560 will be joining to talk about P2P Cash and why it's so important. 1068 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,320 And there's all of that and so much more. 1069 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,080 So if any of that interests you, simply go to Cardron Dex, make that purchase of one 1070 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:12,720 single Phoenix token representing just one minute of time and go and send that to that 1071 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,720 address. 1072 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:14,720 This was Phoenix and Friends. 1073 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,960 I wish you all lovely Phoenix, a very good morning, good day and good night. 1074 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:32,480 Take care.