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I'm David and I left MAGA. Hey everyone, Rich

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Comendie here, leaving MAGA at leavingmaga .org

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with the Midas Touch Network. We got a brand

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new testimonial for you today of a gentleman

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who left MAGA. I'm going to bring him in. His

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name is David Remington from the great state

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of Oregon. David, first off, thank you for being

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with us today. Let's get right into it. What

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I want to know and viewers are going to want

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to know is talk about what attracted you to the

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MAGA community and the MAGA movement. And before

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I have you answer that, let's just make it clear

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for everyone that you did not vote for Trump

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in 2024. No, I didn't vote for Trump in 2024.

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All right. Thank you. I just want everyone to

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know you voted for Kamala. You didn't vote for

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Trump because. case someone says too little too

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late you voted for you voted for kamala but talk

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about what why you gravitated to the mega community

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and the movement what was enticing and appealing

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to you about it well like i grew up as like a

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conservative i know that there's this whole like

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like uh network of young conservative movements

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like turning point usa and etc things like that

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now. But when I was a little middle schooler

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back, God knows when, like in maybe like the

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Bush years, I was a young conservative and I

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was constantly battling the teachers, constantly

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trolling, all because of what I heard on like

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right wing. talk radio because I was all into

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all those personalities, Lars Larson, Michael

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Savage. It was a kind of like counter culture

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to me growing up in like the incredibly liberal

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Portland, Oregon area. And I was just, I was

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into this identity as a conservative at an early

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age and my dad was very approving of it he's

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the one who listened to me in the car with these

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personalities and i just made it my identity

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and it was so integral to me being a part of

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that and what brought me to maga in 2016 and

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something is that i still felt that i still felt

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like Like the liberal culture around me was kind

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of hostile and like I had these own set of beliefs

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I had these own set of like identities and It

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led me to do some things like join the military

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Very like Like I always viewed like the people

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around me as kind of like rule breakers. So like

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I was very into obeying the law which is very

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kind of like not so This so pertinent and and

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like Portland but Like I Like I thought MAGA

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was this fun, energetic movement that drawn me

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to fight back against all the hostility, the

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menacing, all of that. And it was just this fun

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way to fight back against that. And in a way,

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we saw Trump as a hero coming down to save us

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like Portland conservatives. from this kind of

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like scummy culture that I grew up in. And like,

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I don't see like it that way now. I don't feel

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like liberalism is like the enemy, but back then

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it was my worldview and it attracted me to all

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sorts of personalities like Andy Ngo and et cetera.

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to where I was the anti -Portland guy, this guy

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who was in Portland, and everything was just

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counter to that. I just drew into all this Twitter

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stuff, and Twitter itself is a big magnet for

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me. So I was always on that site. I was always

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into the latest controversy. I was always drawn

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into it. I watched Trump tweet about North Korea

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and stuff and all sorts of things throughout

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my adult life, right? And this website, Twitter,

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has been a big part of my going through the last

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10 years. so you found thank you because you

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found the the meaning the community i can particularly

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relate to wanting to uh obliterate the established

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political order and the status quo before 2015

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and 16 i had voted for third parties many times

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i was a political person but i looking back on

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it i was quite ignorant and cynical and i think

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the community that you and i found while i'm

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not defending my time that i was in maga i think

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seeking out a community that we all need a communal

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existence that's a that's a relatively non -controversial

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anodyne reason that i think a lot of people were

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attracted to maga and so i what you're saying

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is really resonating with us it's it's undoubtedly

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going to resonate with others We've done testimonials

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with who left MAGA. So talk about, okay, so you're

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in the community now and you're deep in like

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I was. What was life in MAGA like for you? Well,

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so there was times where it was fun. So there

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was times where I went to like rallies, was invited

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to rallies. I didn't quite know what these rallies

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necessarily meant. or why the left were so offended

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by these rallies, how they were so repugnant

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to them. I just thought, well, it's your right

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to protest, so God will do it. And I went to

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these things, and they were fun. And I met a

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fellow. mega people. I got to wave like a Blue

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Lives Matter flag. I got to wave a mega flag.

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And it was just like, you know, we're just going

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to this protest and we're gonna like build a

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wall and we're gonna be just a part of this thing.

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And it was like so enticing. However, there were

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times where people were incredibly menacing to

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me. For doing that and it was quite scary because

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if you know anything about Portland politics

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well, it's it's like Trump says this is where

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people kill people and Like it's it's not like

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the Liberals are bad. It's you don't want like

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in my opinion now looking at it back then like

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there's a there's a false sort of like false

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equivalency to these people and some of the things

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I was about you know and sort of like a judgment

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but the the reality was is that it was very we

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were in a very hostile culture Like I was a college

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Republican in Portland, Oregon, and I kind of

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felt like being an ant under a magnifying glass.

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So it's just like there's just so much hostility,

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so much antagonism. And even during the pandemic,

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it was like this where I wasn't too like opinionated.

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Like I just had like an opinion about masks.

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in this college life group that's just totally

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non -political, like college life group. And

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they like harassed me. I probably could have

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like sued them for this harassment. And I didn't

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because they're just college students. But like

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the thing is, is like they use really dehumanizing

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language. You're a subhuman. You suck. You're

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a terrible person. We're not going to give you

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a platform. We're not going to treat you like

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a human being. And I just felt this like hostility.

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But here's the thing. Here's the thing where

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I changed is the literacy of it all. The literacy.

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What does this mean? What am I for? What am I

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about? What am I supporting? And I just see this

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literacy. as like a false equivalence. So yes,

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I was treated poorly. Yes, I was harassed. Yes,

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I was doxxed by Antifa or all these kind of like

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left wing far left groups. But what was I for?

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What was I about? What made them so angry? And

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I just became more apparent that I was wearing

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a skin suit of something that I wasn't necessarily.

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in my soul of souls about right so that's that's

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that's where i feel like the you know there's

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the there's the feeling of like i felt these

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perpetual states of desperation and despair and

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and panic and paranoia in in maga you know and

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you just you've talked about liberalism i've

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been saying this ad nauseam for many many months

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now that there is no prevailing ideology in maga

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the closest to an ideology is a conviction that

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liberalism and liberal democracy are the source

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they're the sources of all of our personal and

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national ills i didn't think of it that way.

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I don't think people in MAGA now think about

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it that way. Maybe, David, it wasn't precisely

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how you might have thought about it at the time,

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but looking back on it, that's what we thought

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about liberalism and liberal democracy. Those

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were the causes of everything that was wrong

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in our lives and in our country. So you've got

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that camaraderie that's in MAGA, just like I

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had. Talk about when that started to change for

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you. What were some specific events, do you recall

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when they were, where your doubts started to

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commence and you started to have uncertainty

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and you started to question your belief system?

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Well, part of it was going to these rallies,

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right? I'd buddy up with these rallies. I'd be

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waving these flags. I'd be presenting a political

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stance. And like something terrible would happen

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to me, like say the Antifa doxxed me and my friends.

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And what I would actually do is actually read

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their like, what they actually said. And this

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is the literacy about it. So what made them so

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angry? Well, maybe like I'm not the most egregious

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like mega guy, but like other people. who were

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doxxed like some of them were like people who

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went to charlottesville or some of them were

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like really far right and what were they about

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am i about that that's not what i thought when

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i joined mega i was having a good time i was

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fighting like joe biden or hillary clinton or

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like hillary clinton with the fly in her mouth

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or some Some sort of funny thing like that. I

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was I was having a good time and like you know

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and like things didn't seem Things didn't seem

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so like Like in my opinion like I didn't think

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I was Too like asking too much like I just wanted

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to make some laws like like illegal aliens That

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that's already a crime, right? That's why they're

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called illegal aliens. In my mind, that's not

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asking a lot. But considering the way, like,

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MAGA dehumanizes them, it's kind of asking for

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a lot more than what I thought it was. Do you

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feel like, David, you know, you identify as conservative

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and here... Midas Touch Network you know we welcome

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we're pro -democracy we welcome all views what

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do you what would you say to someone who might

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say well MAGA is conservative do you think that

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it reflects in your view does MAGA reflect conservatism

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as you understand that you grew up in well here's

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the thing is like I have a very conservative

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like background a very conservative family We

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were always kind of like a satellite in Oregon.

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But there are Republicans who live in this area.

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And my dad raised me with these values. And what

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I've noticed with him, my dad, who's very MAGA,

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very kind of like thing, and it's one of the

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things we connected with in the past. But when

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I was just a young, like, middle school person,

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our conservatism was way different than the conservative,

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the MAGA conservative today. It's just, it's

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like, it's almost like bizarre because my dad

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would talk about how the liberals didn't want

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you to use Roundup and, like, how, like, the

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liberals just. are so like so holistic and they

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go to whole foods and this kind of like strange

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culture but now that's what my dad is about it's

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kind of strange he's like like he's like rfk

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is gonna get rid of coca -cola and i'm like how

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how is this real it's it it's it's so bizarre

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to me to see like like conservatives and like

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being like literate and what a conservative is

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seeing like republicans back then be republicans

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and see all these kind of like democrats ascend

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to power like tootsie gabbard um or tulsi gabbard

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i don't know how to pronounce that name or like

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rfk or elon musk or even donald trump right like

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like suddenly like these conservatives are the

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rhinos and it's just totally like reverse it's

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totally like almost like an insult like what

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was i about back then was was i just a fool and

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like suddenly like these are the rnos it's it's

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completely backwards it's completely like it's

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just it's it's it's almost like an insult to

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what i was about back then it was well you i

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was going to say you changed your mind you know

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and You know, I did, others who left MAGA did.

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There are going to be, I believe, many others

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who are, even if they're not MAGA but are Trump

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voters, who are going to have buyer's remorse.

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You know, we've done so many videos about that

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here at Minus Touch, and there's more to come

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because there are just going to be more and more

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who are going to regret their votes. So let me

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ask you this as we come to near closing here.

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Why do you feel it's important to speak out?

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Why did you want to publicly tell your story

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here? Well, I like, I feel like I'm not judging

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MAGA. I'm cut from that cloth, right? I'm cut

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from that cloth. And so like, like being like

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a Republican, being like a MAGA, being like a

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college Republican. and somebody who feels like

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a political minority in, say, a blue state, or

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they have, like, a culture shock if they go to

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the military and do military stuff. You know,

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there's plenty of people out there who are like

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me, and, like, they feel they get enthralled

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with, like, this kind of, like, counter -Democrat

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kind of, like... counter liberalism liberal democracy

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kind of thing and they feel like an attachment

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to that and they get drawn into like reactionary

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politics as like someone who it just falls into

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this pipeline and they just become more radical

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and excel like you don't like As much as you

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think you're fighting someone else, you're just

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hurting yourself. And I feel like I've hurt other

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people. I've hurt myself. I've made enemies out

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of people who probably aren't bad people at all.

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I made enemies out of people who I could probably

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get along with. And I've just made a bunch of

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enemies throughout my life. And I just feel somewhat

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regret. And so reaching out to somebody who may

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be like me and be, you know, like connected into

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this, these kind of like cultures like MAGA.

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Yes, I do like washing machines that are not

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green energy or whatever. But like, you know,

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like I just feel like. that's who I was targeted

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for being who I was, a young male fighting the

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gender war, fighting the culture war, fighting

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like the Republican Democrat war. And like instead

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of being like a warrior or being like a hateful

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kind of like hurtful person, you know, a lot

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of this battle is kind of like internal. because

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it could it could even like affect your health

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because like suddenly like you're not eating

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right or you're like believing in all these kind

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of like counter things or you're making like

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decisions like not going to college not reading

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a book not doing things because of what you're

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told you are as like a man right you are as like

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a young man who is enthralled in this like war

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this battle and like you know like what what

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are principles what are like something of value

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something you could carry with yourself like

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i'm just like i'm just like taking care of myself

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and i want other people to take care of themselves

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too and i just feel targeted as like who i am

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well you you know you overcame it and you're

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right that maga is a very politically traumatic

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experience i i just i want to in closing here

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i just i want to give first of all i want to

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give you credit for exhibiting all of the bravery

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and intrepidity needed to tell your story publicly.

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You know, even going a little bit against your

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own family takes courage to do that. And I want

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to welcome you to the Leaving MAGA community.

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I want to welcome you to the Midas Touch Network

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community as well. And we always like to close.

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all of our conversations with a positive affirmation.

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I'd like to do it with you, David. I'm rich,

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and I left MAGA. We've got David Remington here

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from the great state of Oregon. David, thank

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you so much for being with us. Really appreciate

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it. Thank you so much. Bye -bye. Hey, everyone.

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