WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.700 So Alicia, did mom make us wait 30 minutes after 00:00:03.700 --> 00:00:05.839 eating before we get back in the pool? Of course 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.980 she did. Because otherwise we would get a cramp, 00:00:09.300 --> 00:00:10.419 right? And then we wouldn't be able to swim? 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:14.720 Correct. Was that true? No, it is not true. So 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:16.600 what you're telling me is that we spent a significant 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:19.460 portion of our childhood sitting miserable on 00:00:19.460 --> 00:00:21.960 the side of the pool for 30 minutes after every 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:25.179 snack and meal for absolutely no reason? Yes, 00:00:25.179 --> 00:00:27.359 that's correct. I would like all of that time 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:29.300 back. Unfortunately, that is not something I 00:00:29.300 --> 00:00:32.259 can help you with. But I can tell you that this 00:00:32.259 --> 00:00:35.159 is far from the only summer safety rule generations 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.420 of parents have really confidently passed down 00:00:37.420 --> 00:00:40.619 that isn't actually supported by evidence. Ooh, 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:42.840 so we're going to upset some grandparents today. 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:51.820 Probably. Excellent. Welcome back to the Rolling 00:00:51.820 --> 00:00:54.460 Forward Podcast. I'm Dr. Stephanie Rolin, a 00:00:54.460 --> 00:00:57.119 psychiatrist. And I'm Dr. Alicia Rolin. I'm 00:00:57.119 --> 00:00:59.679 a pediatrician. And we do this podcast as a way 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:03.100 of tackling health misinformation and making 00:01:03.100 --> 00:01:05.819 sure that parents and families have the evidence 00:01:05.819 --> 00:01:07.920 that they need to make the decisions that's best 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.939 for their family. This summer, we're doing our 00:01:10.939 --> 00:01:13.579 summer school series, Lessons from the Pediatric 00:01:13.579 --> 00:01:15.900 Emergency Department, where we discuss some of 00:01:15.900 --> 00:01:18.599 the most common preventable injuries we see every 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:22.969 summer. And today, we're doing a fun twist. summer 00:01:22.969 --> 00:01:26.890 school myth busters. We're going to take some 00:01:26.890 --> 00:01:28.849 of the things we've all heard from our parents 00:01:28.849 --> 00:01:32.109 and grandparents about swimming, sunscreen, food, 00:01:32.409 --> 00:01:35.769 backyard adventures, and ask one simple question. 00:01:36.250 --> 00:01:39.530 Is that actually true? So let's get started. 00:01:44.469 --> 00:01:46.409 Okay Stephanie, so here's how it's going to work. 00:01:46.890 --> 00:01:48.769 I'm going to give you some of the summer rules, 00:01:49.010 --> 00:01:50.469 warnings, and random facts that we've all heard 00:01:50.469 --> 00:01:53.859 growing up. And your job is to tell me true, 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:57.579 false, or somewhere in between. Am I being graded? 00:01:57.739 --> 00:02:01.420 Not yet. I don't like the yet. Ready? I'm ready. 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.079 Let's do it. Number one. You have to wait 30 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.819 minutes after eating before you can swim. We 00:02:07.819 --> 00:02:12.800 just covered this. False. Correct. There's no 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:14.979 evidence that swimming right after eating increases 00:02:14.979 --> 00:02:18.300 your risk of drowning. The theory behind this 00:02:18.300 --> 00:02:20.479 was that digestion would divert blood away from 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:22.979 your arms and legs, and you get a terrible cramp 00:02:22.979 --> 00:02:26.439 and somehow be unable to swim. That is not how 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:28.659 the body works, though. That is not actually 00:02:28.659 --> 00:02:31.379 how the body works. You might feel a little uncomfortable 00:02:31.379 --> 00:02:35.080 exercising immediately after a huge meal, but 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:37.139 you don't need to set a 30 -minute timer after 00:02:37.139 --> 00:02:38.699 your child eats a sandwich before letting them 00:02:38.699 --> 00:02:41.879 back in the pool. So this feels like justice 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:45.039 for our childhood. Justice. You do not have to 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:48.860 watch all the other children swim. Okay. Next 00:02:48.860 --> 00:02:51.750 one. you can still get a sunburn on a cloudy 00:02:51.750 --> 00:02:56.270 day. True. That is true. Clouds don't block all 00:02:56.270 --> 00:02:59.430 UV radiation. Ultraviolet rays can still reach 00:02:59.430 --> 00:03:02.310 your skin when it's cloudy, hazy, or even relatively 00:03:02.310 --> 00:03:05.289 cool outside. Which just feels deeply unfair. 00:03:05.909 --> 00:03:08.430 The sun does not care whether you can see it. 00:03:08.909 --> 00:03:10.509 And I think this is why people get caught off 00:03:10.509 --> 00:03:13.150 guard. You go to the beach on an overcast day, 00:03:13.409 --> 00:03:15.270 it doesn't feel particularly hot, and you assume 00:03:15.270 --> 00:03:16.770 that you don't need the same sun protection. 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:20.580 But temperature and UV exposure are not the same 00:03:20.580 --> 00:03:24.120 thing. So cloudy beach day, Belgium, not guys, 00:03:24.139 --> 00:03:27.159 I'm looking at you, still need to wear sunscreen. 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:31.379 That's correct. Speaking of the sun, getting 00:03:31.379 --> 00:03:34.139 a base tan at the beginning of the summer protects 00:03:34.139 --> 00:03:37.099 you from getting sunburn later. I'm going with 00:03:37.099 --> 00:03:40.719 false. That is false. The American Academy of 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:43.180 Dermatology calls the idea that a base tan prevents 00:03:43.180 --> 00:03:47.060 sunburn is a quote absolute myth. In fact, a 00:03:47.060 --> 00:03:49.000 tan is actually evidence that your skin has been 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.180 damaged by ultraviolet radiation. Whatever protection 00:03:52.180 --> 00:03:54.659 you get from that base tan is minimal, and it's 00:03:54.659 --> 00:03:57.039 absolutely not a substitute for sunscreen, protective 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.060 clothing, or, you know, hanging out in the shade. 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:02.639 So there's no such thing as a healthy base tan, 00:04:03.020 --> 00:04:06.060 which is all of a sudden significantly less glamorous 00:04:06.060 --> 00:04:09.560 when you describe it as sun damage. The glow 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:14.870 is from UV damage. To your DNA! Okay, let's keep 00:04:14.870 --> 00:04:17.910 going. Keep going? Mm -hmm. Mosquitoes really 00:04:17.910 --> 00:04:20.470 do like some people better than others. True, 00:04:20.470 --> 00:04:22.490 and I know this because they like you more than 00:04:22.490 --> 00:04:26.750 they like me. That is true. That is true. I just 00:04:26.750 --> 00:04:28.949 have noticed that we go on vacation together 00:04:28.949 --> 00:04:32.370 and you're miserable and I'm fine. I know. It's 00:04:32.370 --> 00:04:35.769 so true. I know. There really are individual 00:04:35.769 --> 00:04:38.089 differences in how attractive we are to mosquitoes. 00:04:38.610 --> 00:04:40.910 They use a whole combination of signals to find 00:04:40.910 --> 00:04:43.129 us, including the carbon dioxide we breathe, 00:04:43.269 --> 00:04:45.689 are body heat and odors produced by our skin. 00:04:46.290 --> 00:04:48.189 So if you're sitting outside with someone like 00:04:48.189 --> 00:04:50.990 me and you get 10 bites when they get home and 00:04:50.990 --> 00:04:53.250 they have none, you might not actually be imagining 00:04:53.250 --> 00:04:55.870 it. So the person who says to you, mosquitoes 00:04:55.870 --> 00:04:59.329 just love me, might actually be right. So you 00:04:59.329 --> 00:05:01.910 were right. I'm right. And the difference can 00:05:01.910 --> 00:05:04.009 be dramatic. In one study, the most attractive 00:05:04.009 --> 00:05:06.709 person was more than 100 times more attractive 00:05:06.709 --> 00:05:08.889 to mosquitoes than the least attractive person. 00:05:09.589 --> 00:05:12.889 So science says You might be generally a mosquito 00:05:12.889 --> 00:05:16.769 magnet. What about the I have sweet blood? That's 00:05:16.769 --> 00:05:18.850 the myth. They're not choosing you because your 00:05:18.850 --> 00:05:21.490 blood tastes sweeter. Uh, I don't care why they 00:05:21.490 --> 00:05:24.310 don't love me as much as they love you. It's 00:05:24.310 --> 00:05:27.829 perfect. You invite me on all... Every, every 00:05:27.829 --> 00:05:30.550 outdoor adventure and I stand right next to you. 00:05:30.790 --> 00:05:33.750 Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, yeah. All right, here's 00:05:33.750 --> 00:05:36.350 one I have for you. Okay. This is based on when 00:05:36.350 --> 00:05:40.800 I used to live in Australia. Okay. Okay? Someone 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.480 gets stung by a jellyfish. Okay. So you should 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:46.660 pee on that sting. Oh, I know this one. That 00:05:46.660 --> 00:05:51.779 is incorrect. It is on my board exam prep. Yeah, 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:55.579 that's so funny that that's on exam prep. So 00:05:55.579 --> 00:05:59.920 basically that Friends episode lied to us. I'm 00:05:59.920 --> 00:06:02.560 going to say for the most part television, not 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.319 a really reliable source of medical advice. And 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:07.660 as you were learning for your boards, urine is 00:06:07.660 --> 00:06:10.199 not a recommended treatment for a jellyfish sting. 00:06:10.699 --> 00:06:13.300 And treatment for a jellyfish sting can actually 00:06:13.300 --> 00:06:15.660 vary depending on the type of jellyfish. So this 00:06:15.660 --> 00:06:17.759 isn't one where I would want people memorizing 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.860 one universal kitchen remedy solution. But we 00:06:20.860 --> 00:06:23.620 can confidently say you do not need to pee on 00:06:23.620 --> 00:06:25.480 your friend. You do not need to pee on your friend, 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:28.560 which is excellent news for everyone. I'm ready 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:30.819 for the next one. OK, I'm ready for the next 00:06:30.819 --> 00:06:33.680 one. I'm ready for the next one. I'm ready. It's 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:37.480 my turn. You tell me. True or false? You can 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:39.139 get hypothermia in the middle of the summer. 00:06:39.379 --> 00:06:41.740 I'm going to say that this is true. This is true, 00:06:41.740 --> 00:06:44.319 and the biggest summer culprit is cold water. 00:06:44.620 --> 00:06:48.540 Cold water is so cold. So cold. Cold water can 00:06:48.540 --> 00:06:51.199 pull heat away from your body very quickly. So 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:53.199 even when the air outside feels warm, prolonged 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:55.480 exposure to cold water can lower your body temperature 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:58.000 dangerously. So we're talking lakes, rivers, 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:01.680 oceans. Exactly. Especially colder natural bodies 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:04.529 of water. And that's part of what makes it surprising. 00:07:04.829 --> 00:07:07.329 People associate hypothermia with snowstorms 00:07:07.329 --> 00:07:09.410 and freezing temperature. But you don't need 00:07:09.410 --> 00:07:12.430 snow on the ground to become hypothermic. So 00:07:12.430 --> 00:07:14.730 summer school has officially managed to cover 00:07:14.730 --> 00:07:17.850 both overheating and hypothermia. Check, check! 00:07:18.529 --> 00:07:21.350 We're nothing if not thorough. Alright, so here's 00:07:21.350 --> 00:07:25.250 a weird one that I've seen on Facebook. Okay. 00:07:25.750 --> 00:07:28.750 You can end up with a burn -like skin reaction 00:07:28.750 --> 00:07:31.470 from drinking a margarita on the beach. I'm sorry, 00:07:31.470 --> 00:07:34.800 what? It's true. I think I'm going to need an 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:37.600 explanation. There is a real condition called 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:41.040 phytophotodermatitis. Certain plants contain 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:43.620 chemicals that when they get onto your skin and 00:07:43.620 --> 00:07:46.759 are exposed to UV light, particularly UVA, they 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:50.920 can trigger a phototoxic skin reaction. The classic 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:53.759 example here is a lime. So you're out in the 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:56.519 sun, you're squeezing a lime into your margarita 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:59.800 on the beach. The lime juice gets onto your hands. 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.160 Then you're out in the sun. You get exposed to 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:05.480 UV, particularly UVA. And then you get redness, 00:08:05.819 --> 00:08:08.079 blisters, and some pretty dramatic change in 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:10.120 skin pigmentation exactly where the lime juice 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:12.540 touched you. So from the limes in the sunshine. 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:15.360 Yes. Sometimes people even call it margarita 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.180 burn. And it isn't just lime. Other plants can 00:08:18.180 --> 00:08:21.019 cause similar reactions. But limes are well known 00:08:21.019 --> 00:08:23.220 for this. I'm just going to say this sounds completely 00:08:23.220 --> 00:08:25.439 made up. Which is exactly why I wanted to include 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:28.509 it in this episode. Importantly, it's not an 00:08:28.509 --> 00:08:31.050 allergy to lime. It is not. It is a chemical 00:08:31.050 --> 00:08:34.029 reaction involving compounds in limes plus UV 00:08:34.029 --> 00:08:36.330 light. Okay, so far this has been my favorite 00:08:36.330 --> 00:08:39.950 fact. All right, you got one for me. True or 00:08:39.950 --> 00:08:42.330 false? Salt water cleans wounds, right? In the 00:08:42.330 --> 00:08:43.870 emergency department, we're always using sodium 00:08:43.870 --> 00:08:47.090 chloride. So swimming in an ocean is good for 00:08:47.090 --> 00:08:49.149 your cut. That sounds like a terrible idea. I'm 00:08:49.149 --> 00:08:53.190 gonna say no. It is a terrible idea. Sterile 00:08:53.190 --> 00:08:56.330 saline and the Atlantic Ocean are not the same 00:08:56.330 --> 00:08:59.580 thing. Not at all. Natural bodies of water contain 00:08:59.580 --> 00:09:03.039 microorganisms, and exposing an open wound to 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:05.639 ocean or brackish water can cause infection. 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:08.720 One organism the CDC specifically warns about 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:11.080 is Vibrio, which lives naturally in coastal water 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:15.440 and can have serious wound infections. So, salt 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.039 water is healing? Isn't a reason to take a fresh 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:21.399 wound swimming? Correct. The ocean is many things. 00:09:22.019 --> 00:09:25.139 Sterile is not one of them. Many animals have 00:09:25.139 --> 00:09:28.490 to poop in the water. All right, let's keep going. 00:09:29.289 --> 00:09:32.529 Sugar makes children hyper. True. False. I object. 00:09:33.870 --> 00:09:35.850 I knew that you would. So control studies have 00:09:35.850 --> 00:09:38.429 repeatedly failed to show that sugar itself causes 00:09:38.429 --> 00:09:40.509 the classic sugar rush that parents describe. 00:09:40.929 --> 00:09:43.450 But I have been to a toddler's birthday party 00:09:43.450 --> 00:09:47.309 and I have seen this happen. You have anecdotes. 00:09:47.929 --> 00:09:50.210 But is it really the sugar? So imagine that you're 00:09:50.210 --> 00:09:52.029 six, you're at a birthday party, your friends 00:09:52.029 --> 00:09:54.419 are there, there's music, there's balloons. someone 00:09:54.419 --> 00:09:56.659 has a bouncy house, and you've been handed a 00:09:56.659 --> 00:09:59.320 cake. So you're saying the cake isn't the problem. 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.200 It's just that this is a highly stimulating environment 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:05.259 filled with many excited six -year -olds that 00:10:05.259 --> 00:10:08.159 just happen to also have cake. There's actually 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:11.519 research showing an expectation effect. Parents 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:13.539 who were told that their children had been given 00:10:13.539 --> 00:10:16.580 sugar rated them as more hyperactive even when 00:10:16.580 --> 00:10:18.960 their children had received a placebo. So perhaps 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:21.779 the sugar rush is happening to the parents. Basically. 00:10:22.190 --> 00:10:25.029 That also doesn't mean that unlimited added sugar 00:10:25.029 --> 00:10:27.409 is healthy. There are plenty of nutritional reasons 00:10:27.409 --> 00:10:29.769 to limit it. But the evidence doesn't support 00:10:29.769 --> 00:10:32.289 the classic idea that one cupcake transforms 00:10:32.289 --> 00:10:37.909 your child into a tornado. Okay. Okay, so now 00:10:37.909 --> 00:10:42.190 this one. We heard this one a lot. Going outside 00:10:42.190 --> 00:10:45.509 with wet hair will make you sick. As someone 00:10:45.509 --> 00:10:47.850 growing up, I think my grandmother told me this 00:10:47.850 --> 00:10:50.470 every day. Every day. All the time. And it is 00:10:50.470 --> 00:10:53.860 false. It is false! Because the common cold and 00:10:53.860 --> 00:10:55.740 many other respiratory infections are caused 00:10:55.740 --> 00:10:59.659 by viruses. Wet hair doesn't magically cause 00:10:59.659 --> 00:11:02.820 a virus to be present. It causes your hair to 00:11:02.820 --> 00:11:06.159 be wet, and sometimes it freezes. Yeah. I mean, 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:08.100 it might be a bad idea to go outside with wet 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:10.399 hair because you might be cold, uncomfortable, 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:13.860 and annoyed about it, but you don't become sick 00:11:13.860 --> 00:11:16.320 because your hair was wet. Moving on. Moving 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.700 on. Ready? As someone who is studying for boards, 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.860 true or false? A snake with a triangular head 00:11:23.860 --> 00:11:27.259 is venomous. I mean, if I see any snake, I'm 00:11:27.259 --> 00:11:29.379 not going to be looking at the shape of its head. 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:30.919 I'm going to be going the other direction. So 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:34.120 I have no idea. Snake is bad. That actually is 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:38.799 a pretty good answer. So it's false. If you see 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.399 a snake with a triangular head, you can't necessarily 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:43.460 assume that it's venomous. Or if it doesn't have 00:11:43.460 --> 00:11:44.899 a triangular head, you can't assume that it's 00:11:44.899 --> 00:11:47.860 not venomous. There are characteristics that 00:11:47.860 --> 00:11:50.240 experts use to identify particular snake species. 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:54.179 But triangular head is not a reliable rule. Some 00:11:54.179 --> 00:11:56.139 harmless snakes can flatten their head when they 00:11:56.139 --> 00:11:58.480 feel threatened, and then they look triangular. 00:11:59.179 --> 00:12:01.539 Plus, like, are you a snake expert? What is triangular? 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:04.639 I just, it just sounds like that. But Disney 00:12:04.639 --> 00:12:07.419 lies, too. Disney will make it seem like snakes 00:12:07.419 --> 00:12:09.740 that are venomous have different pupils, right? 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.000 I've heard that. That's also not a reliable universal 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.700 rule. And more importantly, if you're close enough 00:12:15.700 --> 00:12:18.200 to an unidentified snake to examine its pupils, 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:21.299 You have made some questionable decisions. Yeah, 00:12:21.299 --> 00:12:22.799 this is one where I'm going to say give that 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:25.340 snake space. Do not touch it. Do not get closer 00:12:25.340 --> 00:12:31.639 and go home. Go to your home. Exactly. If you're 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.980 in the middle of a hiking trail, give the snake 00:12:33.980 --> 00:12:37.480 some space. Don't handle them. Don't get closer 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:39.039 because you're trying to figure out whether it's 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:41.620 dangerous. Assume all of them are dangerous. 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:46.500 But what if you do get bit? Should you cut the 00:12:46.500 --> 00:12:49.700 bite and then suck out the venom? No, don't do 00:12:49.700 --> 00:12:53.940 that. That is false. Don't cut the wound, don't 00:12:53.940 --> 00:12:56.039 try to suck out the venom, and don't use one 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:58.200 of those commercial snake bike suction devices 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:00.740 expecting to pull the venom back out of your 00:13:00.740 --> 00:13:04.220 body. What? Once venom has been injected into 00:13:04.220 --> 00:13:06.200 the tissues, you're not going to solve the problem 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:09.720 by removing. This sounds like another movie treatment 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.659 that has lied to us. Exactly. A bite from a snake 00:13:13.659 --> 00:13:16.120 that could be venomous is a medical emergency. 00:13:16.350 --> 00:13:18.370 The important thing is getting away from the 00:13:18.370 --> 00:13:20.450 snake and getting appropriate emergency medical 00:13:20.450 --> 00:13:23.210 care, not trying to extract the venom yourself. 00:13:23.970 --> 00:13:25.750 And I'm assuming that you don't want parents 00:13:25.750 --> 00:13:27.730 to capture the snake and bring it with them to 00:13:27.730 --> 00:13:30.090 the hospital for you to look at. Please do not 00:13:30.090 --> 00:13:32.309 bring me the snake. Please do not bring me the 00:13:32.309 --> 00:13:34.850 snake. If you can safely take a photograph from 00:13:34.850 --> 00:13:37.350 a distance, that might be useful, but do not 00:13:37.350 --> 00:13:40.009 approach, capture, or kill the snake for identification. 00:13:40.870 --> 00:13:42.769 And if you're looking for a great story about 00:13:42.769 --> 00:13:44.889 why you should not bring venomous snakes anywhere, 00:13:45.210 --> 00:13:47.529 There's an absolutely wild one from here in D 00:13:47.529 --> 00:13:51.490 .C. in 1983. I'm ready. A 16 -year -old stole 00:13:51.490 --> 00:13:54.090 two Gaboon Vipers from the National Zoo, put 00:13:54.090 --> 00:13:56.350 them in a plastic garbage bag, slung it over 00:13:56.350 --> 00:13:58.570 his shoulder, and got on a city bus. I'm sorry, 00:13:58.669 --> 00:14:01.690 he got on a city bus? He got on a city bus with 00:14:01.690 --> 00:14:05.049 two Gaboon Vipers in a garbage bag. And then 00:14:05.049 --> 00:14:08.830 one of them bit him. No. He ended up critically 00:14:08.830 --> 00:14:12.149 ill at the children's hospital and they actually 00:14:12.149 --> 00:14:14.169 had to scramble to get enough anti -venom sent 00:14:14.169 --> 00:14:17.009 in from zoos all across the country. And here's 00:14:17.009 --> 00:14:18.990 the part that I learned from colleagues who were 00:14:18.990 --> 00:14:21.210 actually working at the hospital at the time. 00:14:21.809 --> 00:14:24.549 They remember the entire bus just vroom, pulling 00:14:24.549 --> 00:14:26.350 up to the emergency department at the hospital. 00:14:26.710 --> 00:14:29.149 The entire bus went to the hospital? The entire 00:14:29.149 --> 00:14:31.350 bus because he screamed, I've been bitten by 00:14:31.350 --> 00:14:34.889 a venomous snake. And then the bus detoured and 00:14:34.889 --> 00:14:38.169 they all went to the hospital. Oh, that's so 00:14:38.169 --> 00:14:40.500 funny. I haven't been able to find that detail 00:14:40.500 --> 00:14:43.299 in old nude coverage, but that's the hospital's 00:14:43.299 --> 00:14:46.159 oral history. The teenager survived, but I think 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.840 the lesson is clear. If a snake bites you, you 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.600 come to the hospital, but the snake should not. 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.659 Please do not bring a snake to my emergency department. 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:58.059 Feels like a really reasonable place to end today's 00:14:58.059 --> 00:15:02.759 lesson. Except we're not quite done. What? Because 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:05.980 this is our last official summer school lesson 00:15:05.980 --> 00:15:08.639 before we go back to school. And before you can 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:12.220 finish summer school, no, you have to pass the 00:15:12.220 --> 00:15:14.919 final exam. I knew there was a catch. I thought 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:18.500 you said I was going to be graded. I lied. I'm 00:15:18.500 --> 00:15:20.000 going to give you a statement from something 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.299 we've covered in summer school this year, and 00:15:22.299 --> 00:15:26.899 you will tell me true or false. Ready? No. Perfect. 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:32.080 Question one. Starting from last week. Recent 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:36.350 history. If someone is drowning. They'll always 00:15:36.350 --> 00:15:39.889 yell for help or wave their arms. False. Correct. 00:15:40.750 --> 00:15:43.470 Drowning can be quick and quiet, which is why 00:15:43.470 --> 00:15:45.710 active supervision around the water is so important. 00:15:46.330 --> 00:15:50.850 One for one. Whoo! Question two. Chlorine kills 00:15:50.850 --> 00:15:52.990 all the germs in a swimming pool. Did we talk 00:15:52.990 --> 00:15:55.809 about this? We did talk about this. Did we? We 00:15:55.809 --> 00:15:58.210 talked about this in the episode... about having 00:15:58.210 --> 00:16:00.149 vomiting and diarrhea all summer long. Oh, I 00:16:00.149 --> 00:16:03.549 remember. So no, chlorine does not kill all germs 00:16:03.549 --> 00:16:05.110 in the swimming pool, which is why you should 00:16:05.110 --> 00:16:07.429 not get in the pool if you've had recent vomiting 00:16:07.429 --> 00:16:10.289 or diarrhea. Correct. Some germs, especially 00:16:10.289 --> 00:16:13.149 cryptosporidium, can survive for days even in 00:16:13.149 --> 00:16:15.789 properly chlorinated water. I'm crushing this 00:16:15.789 --> 00:16:18.090 two for two, and I only needed a small hint. 00:16:19.049 --> 00:16:22.570 Question three. Poison ivy spreads when you scratch 00:16:22.570 --> 00:16:24.090 the rash. Scratch, scratch, scratch, scratch, 00:16:24.090 --> 00:16:26.429 scratch, scratch, scratch. False. It's that you're 00:16:26.429 --> 00:16:30.750 touching the plant's oil that might be on you 00:16:30.750 --> 00:16:33.450 and you're spreading it by touching it. Correct. 00:16:33.950 --> 00:16:36.730 The rash itself isn't contagious. It's the plant's 00:16:36.730 --> 00:16:40.090 oil that causes the reaction. I think everyone 00:16:40.090 --> 00:16:41.970 should know that I have been paying attention. 00:16:42.710 --> 00:16:46.730 Okay. Okay. Let's see. Question four. I'm ready. 00:16:47.549 --> 00:16:50.529 If your child is wearing a life jacket, you probably 00:16:50.529 --> 00:16:52.409 don't need to watch them as closely. Absolutely 00:16:52.409 --> 00:16:55.580 not again. False. Correct. Life jackets are only 00:16:55.580 --> 00:16:57.639 one layer of drowning prevention and they never 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:01.120 replace adult supervision. Similarly, adult supervision 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:03.059 does not replace the need for a life jacket. 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:07.220 Okay. Question five. A lawn mower can pick up 00:17:07.220 --> 00:17:09.660 a rock or other nearby objects in the grass and 00:17:09.660 --> 00:17:11.859 launch it fast enough to seriously injure someone 00:17:11.859 --> 00:17:15.019 standing nearby. True. Correct. And that's why 00:17:15.019 --> 00:17:16.940 the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends 00:17:16.940 --> 00:17:18.740 keeping young children out of the yard entirely 00:17:18.740 --> 00:17:20.960 while someone is mowing, not just telling them 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:24.329 to watch from the other side. and no children 00:17:24.329 --> 00:17:27.990 on the writing mower. Look at you bonus points. 00:17:28.369 --> 00:17:31.029 I want that reflected in my final grade. We will 00:17:31.029 --> 00:17:34.470 see. Final question. After an entire season of 00:17:34.470 --> 00:17:36.569 the Rolin forward summer school, the safest 00:17:36.569 --> 00:17:38.890 thing you could do is keep your child indoors 00:17:38.890 --> 00:17:42.589 until September. True. 70. I'm kidding. It's 00:17:42.589 --> 00:17:45.410 false. Very false. The entire point of the series 00:17:45.410 --> 00:17:47.390 has never been that summer is dangerous or that 00:17:47.390 --> 00:17:49.549 kids shouldn't take risks. Kids should swim, 00:17:49.789 --> 00:17:51.190 they should ride bikes, they should hike and 00:17:51.190 --> 00:17:53.869 play outside and go to camp and get dirty. Our 00:17:53.869 --> 00:17:56.230 job as adults isn't to eliminate every possible 00:17:56.230 --> 00:17:58.430 risk. It's to understand that risks can cause 00:17:58.430 --> 00:18:00.809 serious harms and use the evidence we have to 00:18:00.809 --> 00:18:03.769 make these activities safer. So, did I pass? 00:18:03.910 --> 00:18:06.670 You passed! With honors? Let's not get carried 00:18:06.670 --> 00:18:14.589 away. But I'll take it. Thank you for spending 00:18:14.589 --> 00:18:16.369 your summer with us here at the Rolin Forward 00:18:16.369 --> 00:18:20.220 Podcast. If you've enjoyed summer school, make 00:18:20.220 --> 00:18:22.799 sure you follow or subscribe wherever you listen. 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:25.019 And if you have a minute, leave us a five -star 00:18:25.019 --> 00:18:27.380 review. It really helps other listeners find 00:18:27.380 --> 00:18:29.420 the show. Share the podcast with your friends, 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:31.460 your family, your group chat, or another parent 00:18:31.460 --> 00:18:34.720 who has spent their childhood waiting 30 minutes 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:36.660 to get back into the pool and is ready to break 00:18:36.660 --> 00:18:38.920 that generational trauma. Generational trauma. 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:41.660 And as always, we'd love to hear from you. Send 00:18:41.660 --> 00:18:43.839 us an email with your questions, your feedback, 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:46.200 your own health myths you want us to fact check, 00:18:46.259 --> 00:18:48.099 or any topics you'd like us to cover in a future 00:18:48.099 --> 00:18:51.259 episode. Our email address is rolin, R -O -L 00:18:51.259 --> 00:18:54.880 -I -N, forward show at gmail .com. Next week, 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:58.019 summer vacation is officially over because we 00:18:58.019 --> 00:19:01.460 are heading back to school. New backpacks, new 00:19:01.460 --> 00:19:05.759 teachers, new germs. So many germs. So get ready. 00:19:06.339 --> 00:19:08.059 And we'll see you next week. Thanks for listening. 00:19:11.889 --> 00:19:16.710 I'll sing another song, thank you. Chicken banana, 00:19:17.250 --> 00:19:24.569 chicken banana, poyo banana, poyo banana, poyo 00:19:24.569 --> 00:19:31.849 banana, poyo banana, poyo banana, banana, banana, 00:19:32.369 --> 00:19:32.630 banana.