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Alright everybody, get ready.

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Because today we are taking a deep dive

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into an absolute classic.

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It's Roughriders Anthem by DMX.

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And yeah, this is a song that I think

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most of our listeners are gonna know,

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at least a little bit.

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But even if you think you know everything about this track,

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stick with us because I promise

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we've got some surprises in store.

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Yeah, no doubt.

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And you know, we've got DMX lyrics

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in front of us of course.

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We've got some choice Wikipedia facts.

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And then we also found a really interesting article

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by a music journalist that goes deep

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into the making of this song.

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So yeah, get ready to go behind the music

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with Roughriders Anthem.

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Yeah, let's do it.

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And you know, I was thinking about this song

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before we started recording.

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Yeah.

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And something that always stood out to me

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is like the rhythm of the lyrics.

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It's so distinct.

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Absolutely.

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You know, like that stop, drop, shut them down,

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open up, shot part.

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It's like, it's not just a line.

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It's like a command.

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It gets in your head, right?

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It gets in your head.

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It makes you wanna move.

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You can't help but nod your head when you hear it.

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You can't help but nod your head.

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And it makes me wonder if we need like

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a deep dive dance move.

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Oh man, that's a great idea.

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I bet somebody out there has already come up

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with some TikTok choreography for Roughriders Anthem.

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I'm sure they have.

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Yeah.

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I'm sure they have.

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We'll have to look that up after we're done here.

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But you know, it's funny because you mentioned

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getting in your head.

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And I think part of what makes it so powerful

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is that military cadence.

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Totally.

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You know, it's like a crew marching in unison.

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Yeah, it's like they're all moving together as one.

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And it's not just about being physically in sync.

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It's about that feeling of unity.

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You know, that strength in numbers kind of vibe.

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And it's funny because it makes me think about

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like primal instincts too, you know?

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There's something almost aggressive about it.

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It taps into that part of us

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that wants to like conquer and dominate.

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And I think that's why this song hits so much harder

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than your average party track.

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It's got that extra edge to it.

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It does have that extra edge to it.

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Speaking of that crew aspect,

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when DMX shouts out, that's how rough riders roll,

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he's not just talking about himself.

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We're talking about like a whole collective

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of rappers and producers.

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Oh yeah.

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You know, they were like a force to be reckoned with

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in the late 90s.

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Huge.

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Do you think that most people listening

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know about the rough riders?

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You know, I'm not so sure.

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I think a lot of people might associate the name with DMX,

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but they might not realize that it was this whole movement.

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It was like a family, more than just a record label.

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It was a family.

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It really was.

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So, okay.

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We've got to talk about this article

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we found about the song.

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Oh yeah, this is wild.

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This is wild.

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It basically says that rough riders anthem

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almost didn't happen.

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Like it almost didn't even get made.

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It almost didn't exist.

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It almost didn't exist.

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Can you tell us a little bit about that story?

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So basically you've got this young up and coming producer,

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Swizz Beatz.

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Okay.

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And he makes this bet with DMX's mentor

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and the stakes are high.

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The prize for Swizz Beatz if he wins this bet

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is that DMX has to use one of his beats.

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What?

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Wow.

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So DMX's mentor is basically putting DMX on the line.

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Yeah, pretty much.

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Like, hey, if you lose this bet,

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you got to use whatever this young producer cooks up.

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That's crazy.

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It's high stakes.

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And you know, it's interesting to think about like,

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what if Swizz Beatz had lost that bet?

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I know.

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Would we even have rough riders anthem?

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Right.

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You know, it launched his career.

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He went on to produce for like everybody,

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Jay-Z, Beyonce, Kanye.

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Like he's a legend.

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And it all started with this one bet.

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That's wild.

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It's like a sliding doors moment for hip hop.

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Totally.

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Like what if that hadn't happened?

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It makes you think.

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It makes you think.

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Okay, so we know the song almost didn't happen

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because of this bet.

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But here's the other crazy part.

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Apparently DMX hated the beat when he first heard it.

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I know.

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He thought it was too rock and roll.

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He didn't think it was hood enough.

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Can you believe that?

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I can't believe it.

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I mean, listen to this.

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Can we play a little snippet of the beat here?

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Yeah, let's hear it.

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The part where it like really kicks in.

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The part that just gets you going.

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Now here we go.

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Here we go.

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Okay, so we've talked about the beat.

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We've talked about like the whole origin story of the song,

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but now I think we need to like really dig

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into the lyrics themselves.

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Let's do it.

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What are some of the lines that jump out at you?

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You know, it's funny

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because this song is such a banger.

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Like it makes you want to move.

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It makes you want to like throw your hands up.

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But when you really listen to the lyrics,

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there's some real darkness in there.

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You know, there's a lot of pain.

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Oh, absolutely.

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It's that line, all I know is pain.

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All I feel is rain.

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That's heavy stuff.

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It's deep, man.

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It's like DMX is really laying his sole bear in this song.

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You know, he's not shying away

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from the hard stuff he's been through.

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And I think that's part of what makes it so relatable.

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Because everybody's got pain.

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Everybody's got struggles.

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You know, even if they don't always show it.

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And it's not just like personal pain either.

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There's like a sense of societal struggle in there too.

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Like when he talks about being a slave

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till my home is a grave,

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like that's a whole other level of heaviness.

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It speaks to a larger issue.

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You know, like systemic oppression,

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feeling trapped by circumstances beyond your control.

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is particularly powerful

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because it connects to this history of oppression.

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You know, this idea that the system

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is rigged against certain people.

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You know, there's that whole stop, drop, shut them down

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thing that we were talking about earlier.

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It's aggressive,

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but I also get this feeling of defiance from it.

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Like it's a refusal to be silenced.

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A refusal to back down, to be controlled.

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You know, it's like he's saying, we're here.

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We're not going anywhere.

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And you're going to have to deal with us.

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Right. It's like, we're going to make our voices heard.

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And it's not just about talking the talk either.

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You know, the Rough Riders really did embody

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that shut them down energy.

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For sure.

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Like remember all those stories

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about their legendary shows?

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Like the clashes with other crews.

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There was that story about Woodstock 99.

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Where their set like basically caused a riot.

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That's the one.

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It was pure chaos.

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Pure energy.

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like they weren't just making music, they were living it.

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You know, they brought that anthem energy to life.

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Okay. That is going on my must watch list.

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I have to see footage of that Woodstock 99 show.

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You got to check it out.

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I got to check it out.

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But you know, we've talked about like the aggression

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and the defiance in the lyrics,

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but there's also this really strong sense

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of loyalty and brotherhood.

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Like when he says, my niggas move in silence,

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like you don't know what our style is.

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It's about trust.

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It's about trust.

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It's about having each other's backs.

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It's about family.

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And you know, that's always been a big part

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of the Rough Riders identity.

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It's more than just music.

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It's a way of life.

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It's a movement.

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And I think that's what makes Rough Riders anthem

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so enduring, you know, it's not just about one person.

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It's about a collective spirit.

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It's about something bigger than yourself.

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And that's what we're going to explore further in part three,

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how this one song born from a wild bet

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and a clash of creative visions

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became a cultural phenomenon that transcended music

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and spoke to something deeper in the human spirit.

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Okay. So we've talked about the lyrics.

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We've talked about the beat.

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We've talked about the story behind the song,

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but like, what about the bigger picture?

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Yeah. Where does Rough Riders anthem fit in?

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Like in the grand scheme of hip hop history,

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was it just a hit or did it actually change the game?

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Oh, I think it definitely changed the game.

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I mean, first of all,

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it put the Rough Riders on the map for real.

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You know, before this, they were like up and comers.

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But Rough Riders anthem was like their official arrival.

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It was their statement to the world, like, yo, we're here

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and we're not messing around.

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Yeah. It's like they went from contenders

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to heavyweight champions.

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And I think it also helped to usher in like a whole new wave

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of hardcore hip hop.

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You know, that raw aggressive sound that was everywhere

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in the late nineties and early two thousands.

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Rough Riders anthem was like the blueprint.

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And it showed that you could be vulnerable,

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you could be angry, you could be real

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and still make music that connected with people

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on a massive scale.

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Absolutely.

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And let's not forget about Swizz Beatz's production

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on this track.

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Oh my God.

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I mean, that beat is legendary.

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It's been sampled and referenced countless times.

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It's iconic.

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It's instantly recognizable.

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As soon as you hear those horns.

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Those horns.

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Those drums.

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You know, it's Rough Riders anthem.

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Exactly.

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And you know, it showed that you could blend genres too.

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Like bring in those rock influences

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and still create something that was undeniably hip hop.

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Right.

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And it's funny,

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cause it's like this really hardcore hip hop song,

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but it crossed over in such a huge way.

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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Like it wasn't just a hit in the hip hop world.

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You heard it everywhere.

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You heard it at sporting events.

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At parties.

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At parties.

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Yeah.

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You know, it was like an anthem for athletes,

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for rebels,

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for anyone who felt that stop, drop, shut them down energy.

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Yeah.

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It tapped into something universal.

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Like that feeling of defiance,

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that feeling of not taking any crap from anybody.

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Right.

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It's like a rallying cry for the underdogs.

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Totally.

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And it's amazing to me that it still resonates today.

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You know, even with people who might not even know

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who the Rough Riders are.

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Right.

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There's just something timeless about it.

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It's true.

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It really is timeless.

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And it's crazy to think this song is over 25 years old.

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Right.

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It came out in 98, but it still sounds fresh.

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Yeah.

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It still gets the crowd hyped up.

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It's like woven into the fabric of pop culture

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at this point.

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Totally agreed.

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And you know, thinking about its legacy.

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Yeah.

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It makes me wonder like,

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what makes certain songs become anthems?

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That's a great question.

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You know, I think it's a combination of things.

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It's gotta have a powerful message

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that resonates with people.

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It's gotta have a beat that gets stuck in your head.

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Right.

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And it's gotta have a performer

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who can deliver it with conviction.

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Yeah.

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It's like all those elements have to come together

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in just the right way.

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Like lightning in a bottle.

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Lightning in a bottle.

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Yeah.

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But one thing's for sure,

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anthems have the power to unite us, to inspire us,

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to make us feel like we're part of something

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bigger than ourselves.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

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So there you have it folks.

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That's our deep dive into Rough Riders Anthem.

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We cover a lot of ground today.

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From the wild production story to the cultural impact.

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And I think we can all agree,

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it's a song that deserves its place in hip hop history.

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So what do you say we go out

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with a little bit of that stop drop energy?

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Let's do it.

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Keep those speakers bumpin'

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and we'll catch you on the next deep dive.