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Welcome back everyone to another deep dive.

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You know, every day we use apps and websites

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that seem to just work, but behind the scenes.

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It's all powered by complex software architectures

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handling millions of users without crashing.

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Exactly, we're talking massive scale systems.

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Like think e-commerce giants, streaming services, the works.

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And it's fascinating how much this feel has evolved, right?

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We started with monolithic systems, kind of.

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Look at one stop shop for your code, right?

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Easy to set up. Notorious for scaling issues.

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Then we had the rise of microservices, which are like...

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Specialized teams each handling a specific task, very flexible, but...

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It can be a real headache to manage all those moving parts.

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It really is.

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So today we're focusing on what might be called the Goldilocks solution.

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Ooh, I like that.

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That's Selective Service-Oriented Architecture, or SSOA for short.

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Catchy.

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And of course it's Frontend counterpart SFA.

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Our guide for this deep dive is Roshan Gavande's book.

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You got it. It's called Selective Service-Oriented Architecture, SSOA,

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and Selective Frontend Architecture, SFA.

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And he really knows his stuff.

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Roshan's led some major system transformations.

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He has.

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And this book is a great resource for, well, really anyone in tech

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whose building systems meant for massive scale.

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Architects, developers, anyone who wants to learn.

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Now what's interesting about SSOA is it doesn't ditch the monolithic core completely, does it?

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No, it doesn't.

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It starts with that core, but...

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Makes it modular.

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Exactly.

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It's kind of like a...

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A well-organized house where each room has a specific...

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Purpose, but they're all connected by a...

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Solid structure.

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Now the Selective part is where things get interesting.

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With SSOA, you pinpoint the most demanding parts of your application, let's say.

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Like the checkout process during a big sale, Black Friday or something.

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Perfect example.

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And you extract only those parts into...

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Microservices.

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Got it.

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Right.

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Instead of scaling the entire website, you give the checkout process its own turbo boost.

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Love that analogy.

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Avoids that elephant and mini-couper problem we've talked about with Monoliths.

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Exactly.

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And to make sure those microservices play nice with the rest of the system, we've got the...

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Service composition layer.

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It's like...

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Universal translate.

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Helping all the different parts of the system talk to each other.

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That's a good way to put it.

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I try.

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So we've got the back end covered, but what about the front end?

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What users actually see and interact with?

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That's where SFA comes in, mirroring the SSOA approach.

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For the user interface.

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So instead of...

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Monolithic front ends can be a real pain to update.

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And scaling them.

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Forget it.

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Exactly.

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So SFA, it addresses this by extracting specific parts into micro front ends.

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So if you need to tweak something, you're not updating the entire website.

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Just...

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The part that needs it.

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Smart.

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Give me an example.

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Something relatable for our listeners.

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Imagine the video player on a streaming platform.

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By extracting it as a micro front end, you can optimize it.

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So even when millions of people are watching at the same time?

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Yeah, even during the big game or season finale, it still runs.

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Smoothly.

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Ehh?

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No buffering nightmares.

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Okay, so this all sounds great in theory, but how do we actually put these architectures into practice?

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Well, the good news is, you don't have to tear down your entire system and start over.

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Phew.

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That's a relief.

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Roshan really emphasizes an incremental approach in his book.

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It starts with...

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Ascensing your current system, finding the bottlenecks, and then...

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Figuring out which parts would benefit from extraction.

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So it's more like...

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Strategic upgrades rather than...

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The total system overhaul.

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And then you modularize the monolith, you know.

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Create those well-defined rooms.

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Exactly.

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And that sets the stage for extracting those high demand elements into micro services or...

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Micro front ends.

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Depending on whether you're working...

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Back end or the front end.

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Of course, then comes the crucial step of...

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Building that service composition layer.

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Or, as I like to call it, the air traffic control.

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To make sure everything communicates as it should.

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And finally, you deploy...

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Monitor.

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And optimize that system, making sure it runs like a well-oiled machine.

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But with all these distributed parts, doesn't security and compliance become even more critical?

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It absolutely does.

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Roshan highlights a bunch of key challenges, like...

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Securing the communication between all those micro services.

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Making sure only authorized users and services can access certain parts of the system.

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API security.

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And then there's compliance with industry regulations like...

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GDPR, APA, all those acronyms.

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Depending on the industry, of course.

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Sounds like a lot to manage.

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It is, but thankfully there are tools and techniques designed to address these challenges.

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Like mutual TLS, for example.

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It adds an extra layer of security.

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By verifying the identities of both the client and the server.

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Right, before they can even talk to each other.

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Like a double check system.

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Clever.

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And it's very effective.

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So we've got this secure, distributed system up and running.

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Now we need to keep a close eye on it, right?

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Absolutely.

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Monitoring and observability are essential.

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It's like having a...

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Dashboard for your entire system, tracking everything.

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Response times, errors, resource usage, you name it.

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And with tools like Prometheus and Grafana.

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You can even set up alerts so you're notified if anything starts to go wrong.

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You're not just waiting for something to break.

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You're proactively looking for potential problems before they become major headaches.

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Smart.

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But let's move beyond theory for a second and see SSOA and SFA in action.

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Rochon includes some great case studies in his book, right?

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Showing how companies are actually using these architectures.

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He does.

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Real-world examples from the commerce, finance, healthcare.

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Let's dive into those case studies and see how SFA and SFA have tackled some real-world problems.

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Sounds good to me.

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All right, so we've seen how SFA can help us tackle the back end.

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We've touched on SFA for the front end.

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What are some other advanced techniques we can use with SFA?

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You know, to really optimize that user experience.

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Well, one of the most effective techniques is lazy loading.

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Lazy loading?

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Okay, tell me more.

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It's all about efficiency.

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Instead of loading every single element on a webpage at once,

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which can take...

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You prioritize loading what the user needs to see first.

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So let's say you're scrolling through a news website.

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With lazy loading, you'd only see the first few articles initially.

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And then as you scroll down...

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...the rest of the articles would load in as you go.

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Makes sense.

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So it's all about making that initial page load as fast as possible.

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That's the key, especially for complex web applications with a ton of content.

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Because nobody wants to wait around for a page to load.

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No, they don't.

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Especially for e-commerce sites, every second counts.

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Makes sense.

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It's like, I don't know, walking into a well-organized store where everything has its place.

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Versus one where everything's just piled up randomly.

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You know exactly where to find what you need.

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Okay, what else can we do to make that front-hand experience as smooth as possible?

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Well, another really powerful technique is server-side rendering, or SSR for short.

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Okay, SSR.

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That sounds a bit more technical.

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It is a bit more under the hood, yeah.

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But the basic idea is this.

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The initial rendering of the webpage happens on the server.

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Instead of in the user's browser.

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So the user sees a pre-rendered version almost instantly.

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Like it's already there waiting for them.

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And this is great for a few reasons.

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First, it can really boost your SEO.

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Search engine optimization.

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Because search engines can easily crawl and index the content.

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Gotcha.

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So it helps your website rank higher in search results.

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Yeah, it can.

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And it's also great for users who have slower internet connections or older devices.

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Because they don't have to wait as long for that page to load.

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So with lazy loading and SSR, it's really all about making that user experience.

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Yes, smooth as possible, yeah.

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And these advanced patterns, they really seem to build on those core principles of SSOA

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and SFA that we talked about.

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They do.

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Breaking things down, optimizing for performance, it all ties together.

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It really does.

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And speaking of optimization, we can't forget about the importance of DevOps and CICD pipelines.

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We touched on that briefly earlier.

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DevOps is all about breaking down those silos between development and operations teams.

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It's about collaboration, automation, communication, all of that, yeah.

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And CICD, that's continuous integration and continuous deployment.

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That's a big part of it.

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Imagine a pipeline where your code changes are automatically built, tested and deployed.

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Every time you make a change.

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Potentially, yeah.

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It really depends on how you set it up.

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So you're constantly integrating new code and then deploying it to the live website.

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And then doing it all automatically.

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No more manual processes.

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No more of that.

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Automation helps keep things organized.

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And efficient, yeah.

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And it minimizes those human errors that can creep in.

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It definitely does.

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It's like having an army of tireless robots handling those tedious tasks.

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Freeing up the developers to focus on the creative stuff.

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And even with the best automation in place, things can still go wrong, right?

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Of course things happen.

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That's why disaster recovery and high availability are so crucial.

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So disaster recovery, that's like if something catastrophic happens, like a data center outage.

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Or a cyber attack.

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You need a plan to recover.

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It's like an insurance policy for your system.

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You got it.

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High availability on the other hand, that's more about preventing downtime in the first

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Keeping things running smoothly no matter what.

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So you're seeing to the system for SSOA, that might mean data backups.

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For application, yeah.

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Failover mechanisms, things like that.

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And using immutable infrastructure.

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You can rebuild systems quickly if you need to.

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Content delivery networks.

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To host those front end assets in multiple locations so they're always accessible.

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No matter what happens.

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So if one server goes down, the traffic is automatically routed to another one.

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It's like having a self-healing system.

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That can identify and fix problems before they even impact the users.

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I love that idea.

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Yeah.

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We've talked a lot about building and scaling these complex systems and all of this can

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get pretty expensive, right?

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It can, yeah.

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That's why cost optimization is a crucial consideration.

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Because no one wants to see their cloud bill explode.

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Definitely not.

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So how do we keep those costs in check without compromising performance?

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Well, one key approach is right sizing your resources.

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Right sizing.

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Okay.

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What does that mean?

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It's about choosing the appropriate computing power for your microservices.

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You don't want to overspend on resources that you don't need.

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But you also don't want to under provision and end up with bottlenecks.

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Exactly.

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It's about finding that balance.

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That sweet spot.

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Right.

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Another powerful technique is auto-scaling.

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Which means that your system.

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Scales up or down based on demand.

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So if traffic suddenly spikes, you have more resources available.

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And then when things calm down, the system scales back down.

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So you're only paying for what you actually use.

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Exactly.

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And for certain types of tasks, serverless functions can be incredibly cost effective.

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Serverless.

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We talked about that earlier.

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Yeah.

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Remember, you only pay when the code is actually executing.

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Okay.

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So we've got some strategies for the back end.

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What about cost optimization for the front end?

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Well, we can optimize our CDN usage.

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By setting long cache lifetimes for those static assets.

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Like images, JavaScript files, things like that.

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So they're not constantly being downloaded.

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Exactly.

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And we can also minimize the size of those assets.

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To reduce the amount of data that needs to be transferred.

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Right.

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And server side rendering with caching.

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So the server doesn't have to regenerate the same page over and over again.

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Exactly.

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Smart.

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I think there are lots of ways to keep those cloud costs under control.

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There are.

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And it's an ongoing effort.

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It's something you have to be mindful of throughout the entire development process.

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Definitely.

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But a lot of organizations are still working with legacy systems, you know.

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Those large monolithic applications that have been around for years.

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And transitioning those systems to a more modern architecture can be incredibly daunting.

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Like trying to renovate a hundred year old house.

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It can feel that way.

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Yeah.

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And how do we even begin?

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Well, Roshan provides some good guidance in his book.

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Well good.

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He emphasizes that it's not about ripping everything out and starting from scratch.

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That would be a nightmare.

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It would be, yeah.

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It's about taking a more gradual approach.

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So you're strategically replacing parts of the legacy system with those SSOA and SFA

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components.

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Exactly.

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He calls it the strangler pattern.

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Strangler pattern, okay.

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Where you gradually strangle the old system by replacing parts of it with the new.

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Until the new system takes over completely.

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So you're modernizing the system without disrupting those ongoing operations.

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Right.

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And he also highlights the importance of identifying what are called bounded contexts.

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Bounded contexts.

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What are those?

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They're essentially logical areas of functionality within the system that can be isolated.

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So you're finding those parts that can be decoupled without causing a chain reaction.

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Exactly.

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And this applies to both the back end and the front end.

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You can use SFA to gradually replace parts of the front end with those micro front ends.

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Starting with those components that need frequent updates or independent scaling.

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Right.

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It's a multi-pronged approach.

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It is.

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But even when you've successfully implemented SSOA and SFA.

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When you've modernized your systems.

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Scaling those distributed architectures can bring its own set of challenges.

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Okay.

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Like what kinds of challenges are we talking about?

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Well, as your system grows, you're handling more users, more features, more data.

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Things get more complex.

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They do.

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And performance bottlenecks can emerge.

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Where a specific service or component gets overloaded.

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And that can slow down the entire system.

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It's like a traffic jam in your software.

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Not good.

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No.

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And another challenge is maintaining data consistency across a distributed system.

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That sounds tricky.

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When you have data spread across multiple services.

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Each with its own database.

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Keeping everything in sync can be a real headache.

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It can, yeah.

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It's like trying to manage multiple to-do lists.

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Reach on a different device.

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You need a way to make sure they're all up to date.

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Exactly.

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And as your system expands geographically.

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You have users all over the world.

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Managing latency becomes critical.

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Latency.

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That's the delay between.

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How users action and the systems response.

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Okay.

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So you want to make sure that users everywhere have a smooth and responsive experience.

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Right.

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And of course, as the system grows.

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Security risks increase.

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They do.

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Safeguarding a large number of microservices or micro front ends requires a really comprehensive

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strategy.

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It's like securing a city with multiple entry points.

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You need a system that can protect all of them.

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Okay.

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So we've got all these challenges.

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What are some strategies for addressing them?

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Well, Roshan emphasizes the importance of using monitoring tools to identify those performance

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bottlenecks.

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So you can address them before they become major problem.

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Exactly.

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And for data consistency, patterns like saga orchestration can be very effective.

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Saga orchestration, that's for managing those.

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Complex distributed transactions.

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Right.

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And for latency issues.

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Deploying services and data closer to the users.

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It make a big difference.

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It can.

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And for security, centralized security policies are key.

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Along with tools like IAM.

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Identity and access management.

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Right.

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And regular security audits.

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Can help identify and address vulnerabilities.

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So it's all about being proactive.

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And having a multi-layered approach to security.

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Okay, what about strategies specific to scaling those microservices?

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Well, horizontal scaling and auto scaling are key techniques.

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So you can automatically create more instances of a microservice as needed.

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Exactly.

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If traffic increases, the system can adapt.

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And for massive data sets.

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Data partitioning and sharding can be very effective.

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So you're breaking those large data sets into smaller chunks.

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And distributing them across multiple nodes or regions.

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Okay.

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And as the number of microservices grows.

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Using a service mesh can really help.

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It's a service mesh.

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Okay.

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What does that do?

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It helps manage the communication between those microservices.

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And the traffic flow.

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And security.

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So it's like a traffic cop for your microservices.

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That's a good analogy.

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What about scaling those micro frontends in SFA?

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Well CDNs are essential for that.

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They allow you to cache those frontend assets.

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All over the world.

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So no matter where the user is, they can access the application quickly.

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Exactly.

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And versioning those micro frontends is crucial.

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To make sure everyone's getting the right version.

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And module federation.

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Which allows for that dynamic composition and updating.

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Can make the frontend much more agile.

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So it's not just about scaling those services in frontends.

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You also need to think about.

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Data and infrastructure.

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So using distributed databases.

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Data replication strategies.

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Global load balancing.

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Things like that.

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All of that's important.

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To create a truly global system that can handle anything.

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Exactly.

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So we've talked about the present.

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We've talked about the challenges.

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Now let's talk about the future.

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The future of software architecture.

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What trends are on the horizon.

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What does the future hold for SSOA and SFA.

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Well there are a lot of exciting developments happening.

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Yeah.

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There are a lot of really interesting trends emerging.

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One that's already making a big impact is serverless computing.

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Serverless.

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We touched on that a bit earlier.

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With those serverless functions.

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Right.

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But serverless is becoming much more than that.

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It's really a game changer.

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In what way.

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It allows developers to just focus on writing code without having to worry about managing

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those servers.

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So no more setting up servers, configuring them, keeping them up to date.

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Exactly.

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The code just runs in response to certain events.

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And you only pay for the actual execution time.

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Right.

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So it's incredibly efficient.

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And it scales automatically.

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You don't have to worry about capacity planning or anything like that.

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Right.

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The infrastructure just takes care of itself.

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I can see how that would be really appealing for microservices in SSOA architecture.

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Absolutely.

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It's a perfect fit.

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And it's even starting to influence the front end with the emergence of.

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Serverless front ends.

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Okay.

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Now that's interesting.

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It is.

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It's still early days, but we're seeing some really interesting developments.

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So what other trends are on your radar?

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Well, artificial intelligence or AI is obviously a big one.

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It's transforming just about everything.

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Including software architecture, I imagine.

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Absolutely.

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It's starting to see AI-powered microservices that can make intelligent decisions.

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Based on the data they're processing?

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Exactly.

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They can analyze data, make predictions, even learn and adapt over time.

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So it's like those microservices are becoming intelligent agents?

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In a way, yes.

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And AI is also being used to assist with software development itself.

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So tools that can analyze code, optimize performance, maybe even help design architectures.

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It's all happening.

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We'll even talk about AI becoming the architect of the future.

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Wow.

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So AI is going to replace software architects?

510
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I don't think we're there yet, but AI is certainly going to play a much bigger role

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in software development going forward.

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It's both exciting and a little bit unsettling.

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It is.

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But AI isn't the only disruptive force out there.

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Edge computing and the Internet of Things are also having a huge impact on software

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architecture.

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Edge computing, right?

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That's where you're moving processing power closer to where the data is being generated.

519
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Exactly.

520
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Instead of relying on those centralized cloud data centers, you're processing data at the

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edge.

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Which could be a user's device, a sensor, a smart appliance.

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Anything that's generating data.

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Okay.

525
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,760
So how does that impact SSOA and SFA?

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Well, with SSOA, you can deploy those microservices closer to the users, improving performance

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and responsiveness.

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Because the data doesn't have to travel as far.

529
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Exactly.

530
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And with SFA, you can run those front-end components at the edge.

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Using those web applications incredibly fast and snappy.

532
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Right.

533
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No matter where the user is located.

534
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It's like edge computing is bringing the cloud closer to us.

535
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,320
It is, in a way, yeah.

536
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,640
And then there's the rise of multi-cloud and hybrid cloud architectures.

537
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,920
Which means that organizations are using...

538
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,320
A combination of different cloud providers.

539
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,720
Or a mix of public and private cloud environments.

540
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,720
Right.

541
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,560
It's all about flexibility and avoiding vendor lock-in.

542
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,200
And this has implications for SSOA and SFA.

543
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,200
It does.

544
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,880
With SSOA, you can deploy those microservices across different cloud environments.

545
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,240
So you're not tied to a single provider.

546
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,240
Exactly.

547
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,760
And with SFA, you can host those front-end components wherever it makes the most sense.

548
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,680
Whether it's in the cloud, on-premises, or at the edge.

549
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,680
Right.

550
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,640
And that brings us to another interesting trend.

551
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,640
Blockchain.

552
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,640
Blockchain.

553
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,640
That's the technology behind cryptocurrencies.

554
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,320
It is, but it's much more than that.

555
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,240
It's a distributed ledger technology that can be used for all sorts of things.

556
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,240
Like what?

557
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:54,600
One of the key benefits is that it offers secure, tamper-proof transaction processing.

558
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,400
So it's like a permanent, unchangeable record of every transaction.

559
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,400
Exactly.

560
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,480
And this can be incredibly valuable in a distributed environment like SSOA.

561
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,960
Where you have multiple services interacting with each other.

562
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,960
Right.

563
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,160
You can use blockchain to build decentralized microservices that handle transactions with

564
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,720
a high level of security and trust.

565
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:14,720
Interesting.

566
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,800
And what about SFA?

567
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,840
Can you use blockchain on the front-end?

568
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,440
You can, especially for applications that require strong data privacy, like healthcare

569
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,880
or voting systems.

570
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:24,880
Makes sense.

571
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,480
So with all these emerging technologies, it sounds like the future of software architecture

572
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,840
is going to be pretty wild.

573
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,840
It is.

574
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,440
It's an exciting time to be in this field.

575
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:37,000
But one thing's for sure, SSOA and SFA are going to have to adapt to stay relevant.

576
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,760
In what ways do you see them evolving?

577
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:44,440
Well, with SSOA, I think we're going to see a rise in event-driven architectures.

578
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,800
Where microservices are triggered by real-time events.

579
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,800
Exactly.

580
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,240
And the source, which we talked about earlier, is going to become even more important.

581
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,400
For tracking those events and maintaining data consistency.

582
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,400
Right.

583
00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,320
And with SFA, I think we're going to see a move towards more composable front-ends.

584
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,920
Composable, meaning that you can assemble them.

585
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,320
From smaller, reusable components.

586
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:09,200
So it's like having a set of building blocks that you can use to create different user experiences.

587
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,200
Exactly.

588
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:16,160
And AI is going to play a bigger role in both SSOA and SFA, enabling more intelligent architecture

589
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,160
design.

590
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,280
And also, more powerful healing systems that can identify and fix problems on their own.

591
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,280
Right.

592
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,160
We're moving towards more autonomous systems.

593
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,680
It's incredible to think about what the future holds.

594
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,680
It is.

595
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,880
It's going to be an interesting ride.

596
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,880
Well, on that note, I want to thank you for joining me on this deep dive into the world

597
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,560
of SSOA and SFA.

598
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,560
It's been a pleasure.

599
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,760
We've explored the key principles, looked at some real-world examples, delved into advanced

600
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,920
design patterns, and even taken a glimpse into the future.

601
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,640
It's been a comprehensive journey.

602
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,800
It has.

603
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,400
To our listeners, we encourage you to explore this topic further.

604
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,960
Roshan Gavande's book is an excellent resource.

605
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,960
It really is.

606
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,240
It's packed with insights and practical guidance.

607
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,080
And as we wrap up, we leave you with this thought.

608
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,820
As software continues to shape our world, what role will you play in building the systems

609
00:23:03,820 --> 00:23:05,320
of the future?

610
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,360
Until next time, keep exploring, keep learning, and keep building.

611
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:18,720
Please let me know if you need any further assistance.

