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What do you do when the career you've dedicated

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nearly three decades to no longer feels like

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home? After 29 years as a teacher, I found myself

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standing at a crossroads, grappling with fear,

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grief, and the undeniable pull towards something

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new. I had the pension in sight, the job security,

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the comfort of familiarity, but deep down I knew

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I was no longer aligned and I was exhausted.

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In today's episode of Life's Next Lesson Plan,

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I'm opening up about what it's really like to

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start over in your 50s. The doubts, the identity

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crisis, the freedom, and yes, the fire that comes

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with finally listening to your gut. If you've

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ever asked yourself, am I too old to make a change?

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Or what if I walk away from everything I've built?

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This episode is for you. I'll walk you through

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the emotional highs and lows of this midlife

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career transition. Share the breakthrough moments

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that helped me reclaim my purpose and reveal

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what I'm doing next. You asked for it and it's

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here. Reinvention isn't just possible. It might

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be your next calling too. So let's begin. Thank

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you for joining me for another episode of Life's

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Next Lesson Plan. I'm Rachel and I started this

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podcast during my 29th and last year as a high

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school teacher. The goal of my work with Life's

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Next Lesson Plan as well as my Live and Learn

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Patreon is to create a connection where we are

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all teachers. We all have lessons and stories

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to share that can help others. I'm so fortunate

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to be able to extend the four walls of my previous

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classroom to an unlimited audience. where we

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can all learn from each other. And my guests

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are some of the most inspirational people, with

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the best stories and lessons I know, which is

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why I want to share them with you. Their words

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are something everyone should hear. It is my

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hope that you are able to take away something

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from each episode to apply to your own life,

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whether that be a career search, path to a more

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fulfilling life, or new ideas on current topics.

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Hello, hello, hello. Today we're talking about

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what I'm actually going to be doing after an

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entire career of teaching. So I guess my intro

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is probably a little bit inaccurate if I'm being

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honest because it wasn't at my 29th year where

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I felt like... needed a change. It was a few

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years leading up to that and if I'm gonna, you

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know, divulge exactly my journey today I would

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have to be honest and say that for years I had

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been exploring other potential avenues of what

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to do. Many of you know I dabbled in health coaching,

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not that that was ever my full -time plan, but

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maybe a part -time plan and I really, really

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enjoyed that. I actually also completed an online

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certification to become an instructional designer

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and did have quite a few interviews actually

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for a position in instructional design and I

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just... didn't love it. There were a lot of things

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about it right up my alley and I think I was

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so focused on you know any career that could

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be remote and use my skills but it got really

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technical I think and while I'm not afraid of

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that it just wasn't exactly what I was looking

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for. So unfortunately I did invest money in that

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path and did pursue it but knew that I would

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not be happy doing that. And I look back, I guess,

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with a little regret of maybe I should have taken

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a less expensive path to explore that. But it

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is what it is. I mean, once I'm determined to

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try something, I do it. And then I've always

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had part -time jobs. I worked at CycleBar. I've

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worked at a kind of a big box outdoor retailer

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for quite a while and still you know I only have

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to work four hours a month to keep that position

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I did actually explore you know what if this

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were my only option what could you offer me and

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for years they were like the minute you're done

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teaching we have this for you you know you would

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have insurance and benefits and you know That

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having that and having those conversations, I'm

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going to be honest, was what helped me say, OK,

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I have to make the decision. And I would have

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this if I absolutely needed it. It's not ideally

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what I want to do, but I could survive. And I

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knew that after years and years and years of

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applying to, you know, I applied to do social

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media and content creation for businesses and,

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you know, interviewed and interviewed, I interviewed

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for actually the school district that I live

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in now, applied for communications coordinator

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position there and made it really far, but nothing

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was working. And it was... Making me realize

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after conversations with other people my age

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that like hey you're entering your 50s and a

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you're expensive even though I was willing to

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you know make concessions with salary and Be

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you know, you're nearing retirement age. Although,

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you know, it's my hope to continue to work in

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some capacity. I've worked Almost every summer

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because I get bored. I shouldn't say I get bored

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I should say that me with a lot of unstructured

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time is just not good for a lot of reasons And

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so I always like to have at least something to

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do Or I didn't have too much unstructured time.

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So I will say 100 % that what finally helped

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me just make the decision, cut the cord was knowing

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that if nothing else worked out because I had

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been applying so much that I would have that

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option at my part -time job to go full -time

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with benefits because I do carry the insurance

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for my daughter. I knew enough about myself that

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if my back were against the wall and I had no

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other option, I would dig in even harder, even

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though I felt like I was working pretty hard

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to explore. So after many anguishing conversations

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and communicating this, I knew I had to just

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make the decision and then it would force me

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to take action. So I guess this is just to say

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like you need to know yourself if you're feeling

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like a change is on the horizon for you. Like

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how do you plan to explore? What are you looking

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for? You know, there is just something about

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always having that comfort zone to fall back

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on. And I knew once I didn't have that, not that

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I couldn't, you know. Find many teaching jobs

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now. It's becoming very obvious, but I knew I

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could not teach any longer I could But I would

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not be happy and I'm just tired. I'm just done

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and need a change So, you know, I have to be

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transparent about that now going on from there

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There were also years of internal struggle like

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what are you doing? You know, you are so close

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to your your pension. You are leaving money on

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the table. A lot of second guessing myself. But

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when you know how you feel and you just feel

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like I cannot do this another year, I just that's

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how I felt. So, boom, made the decision. I think

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in late fall, you know. Definitely checked into

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like how much notice do I need to give I really

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didn't have to give any But I knew in the position

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that I was in that I wanted I guess I'll just

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say I wanted there to be a smooth transition

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because my publications program I've been doing

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for about 11 years and Holy cow the work and

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blood and sweat and tears that have has gone

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into building that program to what it is now

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to just hand that off Once I found out there

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was nobody qualified to teach it Just to hand

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that off and leave the students Kind of in the

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lurch. I just couldn't do that. I also made the

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decision that I wanted to try podcasting because

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why not and so The idea I had for my podcast

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was to talk about, obviously, other people who

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are feeling at a crossroads and talk about people's

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journeys in their careers. And I couldn't really

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do that and talk about leaving the classroom

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without people knowing I was leaving the classroom.

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So both of those reasons. Again, I've said it.

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I would have preferred to quit at the end of

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the school year in the summer. I don't. Even

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though I appreciate the parties and the celebrations,

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it makes me uncomfortable. I would have just

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preferred to go away quietly, but it was not

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the best choice for the situation that I'm in.

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So I'll just say that. And now, because a colleague

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of mine who I admire very much is taking over

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my program, it gives us the opportunity. I mean,

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this was actually something that I had. proposed

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to administration that I felt that the best person

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to take over the position was somebody already

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in the building who knew our school really well,

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someone who had really good connections, and

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someone who would be willing to work with me

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through the transition. Knowing that this was

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the only person they had to take over, they graciously

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agreed and we have been working together and

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will continue to work together until she feels

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comfortable taking over the position. It is just

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so multifaceted and there is so much to it that

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is unlike anything else in the school that I'm

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happy that I made that decision. I think it was

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the right one. So again, for you, what does that

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look like. This was not my wish of how I wanted

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to do it but it also had the silver lining of

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me being able to do the podcast and talk about

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this and so in that way I think you know it worked

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out. I do think it's really important to talk

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about all of the narratives that go through your

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head when making a decision like this. number

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one the fear of the unknown like will I find

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work that I love again because obviously it had

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an amazing career as a teacher and you know still

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I'm seeing the rewards of my hard work pay off

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in the kids and the opportunities that they're

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getting and you know got the best essays from

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the great cats be that I've ever received you

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know here at the end you know you kind of figure

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some things out at the end and you know still

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really proud of the work that I've done and I

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want to do something with purpose where I'll

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get some of those feelings again. So that was

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scary and it makes you really picky. I've talked

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about ageism concerns. I mean, I don't feel like...

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I'm someone who should be using the word ageism

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because I feel young but it is starting over

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after 50 it is an actual concern and then let's

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just be honest there are huge financial implications

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for teachers many many many I'll say too many

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teachers stay in teaching too long or longer

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than they would like to because of all the benefits

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of staying. And I guess, you know, there's a

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reason for that. It's a secure job. It has wonderful

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benefits and great options for pension and all

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of that. And that was a huge concern. And I could

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not have made this decision five years ago. There

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are certain things in my personal life that had

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to line up with me feeling comfortable financially

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being able to do this. It's still terrifying.

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And then just what I talked about in my last

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solo episode 33 of the identity shift of if I'm

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not a teacher and you know, my daughter is leaving

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the nest, who am I? Right? Well, I'm still Rachel,

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right? And there's a lot to do with my identity.

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So I just want to be transparent about those

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are definitely challenges that I personally felt.

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And so as a result of that, I, you know, had

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to kind of have some mindset shifts and really

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be in tune with, you know, who I was. And, you

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know, experience that breakthrough of like, okay,

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I'm doing I have been talking about it and talking

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about it. I am going to do it. So one of the

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mindset shifts I had to have was just redefining

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what success in this chapter will be. And a lot

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of that, you know, has to do with how fulfilled

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you feel by your job. And even though teaching

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is... oh my gosh, one of the most difficult jobs

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I believe. It is also one of the most rewarding

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and fulfilling, right? So there's a double edged

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sword. And it is hard. I know people who are

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jealous of teachers, not that they would want

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to do their job, but just like, you have so much

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purpose and you enact so much change, right?

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And shape people's lives. And that is really

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cool. I mean, I would not have some of the guests

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on my podcast here without teaching. So it is

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definitely something I'm really proud of my legacy

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and I'm really proud of the lives that I have

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had the opportunity to influence. So that is

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hard to match. But I also know at this stage

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I've had that, right? And so my goal in seeking

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my next position was to take all of the skills

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which You know, in the last 11 years have changed

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a lot. An English teacher is one thing, and there

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are certain skills that come with that. Being

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a journalism advisor is a whole other ball game.

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And I would not have felt comfortable podcasting

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if I didn't have the journalism skills that I

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have acquired in the last 11 years. So for me,

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more so, it was how could I provide value in

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a different way? So. how could I provide value

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to a company that needed my skills? And I have

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to credit my yearbook rep, Cindy, who said to

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me, you know, why don't you contact this company

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or companies like this who are always looking

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for people with your skill set? And that is 100

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% what happened. So I basically contacted a company

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in our area who I had worked with through yearbook.

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They're a photography and yearbook company. I

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did not realize all the years of working with

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them. all of the things that they did. I just

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knew that they provided us pictures for our yearbook.

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I knew that they were a company run by former

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alumni from the high school where I taught. And

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I had had one of their relatives as a yearbook

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editor. And I didn't know if it was going to

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pan out to anything. I was still actually talking

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with my own yearbook company about potential

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employment opportunities there. Why not? Right?

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All they can say is, oh, you know, thank you

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for reaching out. Sorry. No. Well, I reached

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out to them, I believe, before the holidays,

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I think, if I remember right. And I think we

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started talking in around that time, but then

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January, I think we actually had four or five

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meetings face to face where we would talk about

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what And they basically said, what are you looking

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for? And I laid out exactly what I was looking

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for and the skills they knew of me and they knew

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of my work because actually one of my new supervisors

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is a parent who I had all three of his students

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in different classes and they just knew, you

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know, having had worked with our school and having

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gone there and our partnership through yearbook,

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they knew of my work and of my students work.

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So That's what started it. And I didn't know

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where it was going to end up, but it was very

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unconventional. I have the job now and I never

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turned in a resume. They never asked for a reference.

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I mean, they know my principal. They know everybody

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I work with. They know my yearbook rep very well.

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But how crazy, right? After all the cover letters

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and resumes and interviews that I had, this is

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a lesson that I have said to my students and

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I'm going to say it to you to spread. Every day

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of your life is a job interview. and you're not

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going into every day of your life intending it

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to be a job interview, but I'm gonna give you

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a couple examples of how this has repeated itself

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in my life and maybe this has happened to you

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too. So going way back to just starting out as

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a journalism advisor, right? Like I'm the type

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of person who... hits the ground running. I had

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won, you know, the JEA, which is the National

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Journalism Education Association. I had won their

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Rising Star Award that after applying for that

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was pretty rigorous. I had applied for a special

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journalism fellowship. It was a two -week fellowship

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at Mizzou. Again, a very rigorous application

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process that included work samples, letters of

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recommendation. They were choosing different

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yearbook advisors from different states. They

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put us up in a boutique hotel for two weeks in

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the summer on the campus of Mizzou. I met people

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I still love and keep in touch with today in

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the field of journalism. I did a lot of things

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then that led me to, I taught summer journalism

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workshops. I had one of the best JEA mentors

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out there to help me start my program. Thank

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you, Linda, for everything. This to say that

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in the pandemic, which I would have been like

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eight years into my journalism career by then,

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I got a call from my mentor, Linda, who had worked

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with my students, who had worked with me. at

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Iowa, University of Iowa summer journalism workshop.

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She was helping at a local college, Mount Mary

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University. She was helping them with their journalism

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program. And they were losing their advisor and

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they needed someone to just step in for a while.

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And she's like, are you in the area? Are you

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interested? She knew my work. She knew me. I

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didn't reach out to them, and there I did turn

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in a resume as a college adjunct professor position,

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right? I had interviews and was hired. But that

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was because every time she saw my work and saw

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me, that was an interview, right? Then, same

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time, during the same time frame, I got a...

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message from a guy I'd gone to college with.

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He was starting a business in the wellness space

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and he needed someone who was into wellness and

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knew how to write. That's me. And all he wanted

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was basically a ghostwriter to, you know, I was

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provided SEO outlines of topics that he needed

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content for his website for. Never turned in

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a resume, didn't really have a formal interview.

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It was just like, can you send us a sample? We'll

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give you an outline. Can you do a writing sample

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for us? And we'll see if it'll work. Boom, bam,

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boom. I think I was writing a blog a week. Great

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extra money in both of those cases because of

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the skills that they knew that I had and the

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person that I was. And so I feel like this opportunity

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is similar to that. So I want you to think about,

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right, people whose paths you've crossed, who

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know your work, and how that could work to your

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advantage, because definitely that's what helped

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me. All right, I'm gonna be awful. And we're

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going to take a little break here and do some

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ads and ask the teacher anything. And then when

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we come back, I'll talk to you exactly about

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So question one, what's been the most unexpected

00:26:18.069 --> 00:26:21.849
joy of this new chapter? And I'm assuming that

00:26:21.849 --> 00:26:24.470
means like new chapter of podcasting and maybe

00:26:24.470 --> 00:26:26.630
a new chapter to make the decision. I'm just

00:26:26.630 --> 00:26:30.869
going to go with that. I've talked about this

00:26:30.869 --> 00:26:33.730
before, I think, but definitely putting yourself

00:26:33.730 --> 00:26:36.210
out there and voicing kind of what's going on

00:26:36.210 --> 00:26:40.170
in your life brings people who are resonating

00:26:40.170 --> 00:26:43.430
with your message sort of to you or things that

00:26:43.430 --> 00:26:45.049
you've talked about or things that you've gone

00:26:45.049 --> 00:26:46.730
through. And I think when you're vulnerable,

00:26:46.829 --> 00:26:49.289
people feel comfortable being vulnerable with

00:26:49.289 --> 00:26:54.329
you. And so that's been really, really nice.

00:26:54.950 --> 00:26:57.309
I think there are different, again, opportunities

00:26:57.309 --> 00:27:01.569
that are popping up in my life that would not

00:27:01.569 --> 00:27:05.890
have popped up I don't think if I hadn't a taken

00:27:05.890 --> 00:27:10.130
the sleep and be been vocal about sharing it

00:27:10.130 --> 00:27:14.829
and so again totally it was not the path that

00:27:14.829 --> 00:27:19.329
I would have preferred to take but decided if

00:27:19.329 --> 00:27:21.250
this is the way I was going to do it, I was going

00:27:21.250 --> 00:27:24.769
to do it 100%. And those are really the benefits

00:27:24.769 --> 00:27:28.109
that I have seen of just, I think, reconnecting

00:27:28.109 --> 00:27:30.569
with certain people and different opportunities

00:27:30.569 --> 00:27:34.609
popping up that I couldn't have predicted. Question

00:27:34.609 --> 00:27:38.390
two, has your decision to leave teaching changed

00:27:38.390 --> 00:27:43.029
how you view education as a whole? I don't think

00:27:43.029 --> 00:27:46.960
it's the decision. that has changed my view of

00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:50.400
education. I think I made the decision because

00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:55.240
my view of education changed. So, you know, anytime

00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:57.960
you do something over a span of three decades,

00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:01.220
things are going to change. You're going to experience

00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:04.579
extreme, you know, differences in how it was

00:28:04.579 --> 00:28:10.319
when you began. And, you know, It's it's funny

00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.660
to now be the one of the older teachers in the

00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:14.539
building and to listen to the young teachers

00:28:14.539 --> 00:28:17.920
Who sound exactly like I sounded when I was that

00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:21.220
age like I'm gonna work here my entire life I'm

00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:24.119
gonna retire, you know and die in this building

00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:28.599
Yeah, I felt like that too. And I was super passionate

00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:31.180
about what I did and, you know, threw myself

00:28:31.180 --> 00:28:34.099
in it. And I get that and that is very true for

00:28:34.099 --> 00:28:37.240
a lot of people. But, you know, I don't know

00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.039
if it's just this pull of knowing there's something

00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:43.900
different or just I know I'm exhausted. I know

00:28:43.900 --> 00:28:47.160
my patience is short. I know there are things

00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:50.039
about the system that really, really, really

00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.059
have been bothering me in the last few years.

00:28:53.059 --> 00:28:56.269
And either, you know, you can work to change

00:28:56.269 --> 00:28:59.990
those things, or you can make a change. And I

00:28:59.990 --> 00:29:05.329
had put in my time, is what I felt. And so, yeah,

00:29:05.410 --> 00:29:07.950
I'm sad about some of the things that I'm seeing

00:29:07.950 --> 00:29:11.680
in public education. Yes, I am. There were years

00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.579
where I actually thought about opening up my

00:29:14.579 --> 00:29:17.960
own school. And I've seen on X, you know, these

00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.259
X teachers who have opened up these one room

00:29:21.259 --> 00:29:24.940
school houses. And, you know, I've toured charter

00:29:24.940 --> 00:29:29.759
schools before and, you know, there's opinions

00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:33.880
about that idea and that model. But I do think

00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:38.059
that there needs to be Changes and you know,

00:29:38.059 --> 00:29:41.380
I think what kept me in teaching as long as I

00:29:41.380 --> 00:29:44.799
did was AP capstone training, which I did a whole

00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.539
episode about revolutionized my teaching and

00:29:47.539 --> 00:29:50.660
the things that I was able to do in my classroom

00:29:50.660 --> 00:29:54.700
with that model with kids Really putting them

00:29:54.700 --> 00:29:57.000
in the driver's seat same thing through journalism

00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.640
where they are running with their ideas. I Think

00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.720
more of that is needed. I mean I had an entire

00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.500
conversation about this with my guest Star Stakstein

00:30:07.500 --> 00:30:11.180
and Michael Hernandez. You know, Star has written

00:30:11.180 --> 00:30:14.519
numerous books and they do webinars on these

00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.960
topics and so I'm not the only one feeling these

00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:21.579
things, but I just, again, as I said in the opening,

00:30:21.700 --> 00:30:25.359
didn't feel aligned. So when that is how you're

00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:28.579
feeling, then you need to do something about

00:30:28.579 --> 00:30:31.829
it. And so that's what I did. Am running out

00:30:31.829 --> 00:30:34.890
of questions, so I need you to submit more to

00:30:34.890 --> 00:30:37.970
me either on social media Or there is a question

00:30:37.970 --> 00:30:40.829
box on my website at life's next lesson plan

00:30:40.829 --> 00:30:45.089
calm You know life's gonna be changing here soon,

00:30:45.089 --> 00:30:47.930
so maybe you'll have a fresh batch about that

00:30:47.930 --> 00:30:51.569
for me Thanks always for providing those questions

00:30:51.569 --> 00:30:57.109
Okay, okay, let's get into it so I talked about

00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:01.480
you know kind of how I landed on the path that

00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.839
I was on this unconventional direction of you

00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.680
know me reaching out to a company and them being

00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:11.920
open and willing enough to have multiple conversations

00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.259
with me and so you know I'm not going to say

00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.059
the exact name of the company in particular,

00:31:18.140 --> 00:31:20.000
but it wouldn't be that difficult to figure it

00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:24.059
out. Again, it's a company that works out of

00:31:24.059 --> 00:31:26.759
Wisconsin and Illinois, which I didn't even realize

00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.420
that until we started speaking how large they

00:31:29.420 --> 00:31:34.559
were. I went to them and I explained my situation.

00:31:34.819 --> 00:31:37.859
You know, they knew me or knew of me and said,

00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:39.880
you know, after all of this time, I'm looking

00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:43.880
for a change and I would like to find a company

00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:47.880
who needs the skills that I can offer. However,

00:31:47.900 --> 00:31:53.180
I can help. You know, it was. Such a crazy moment

00:31:53.180 --> 00:31:56.720
because they told me that they had been wanting

00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.700
to do some of the things That I could help them

00:32:00.700 --> 00:32:03.539
do for years, but just didn't have anybody to

00:32:03.539 --> 00:32:09.240
help them Okay, so What like how crazy is that?

00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:14.569
Okay, so and again, you know Sometimes I just

00:32:14.569 --> 00:32:16.690
always think, oh, people are just being nice,

00:32:16.809 --> 00:32:18.529
right? Like, they're just saying that so that

00:32:18.529 --> 00:32:20.710
I don't feel bad coming in here knocking on their

00:32:20.710 --> 00:32:24.089
door, right? Asking them basically for a job

00:32:24.089 --> 00:32:27.930
out of nowhere. But that was the case. There

00:32:27.930 --> 00:32:31.990
were a lot of things that they... want to try

00:32:31.990 --> 00:32:35.569
to do or at least learn more about to expand

00:32:35.569 --> 00:32:38.490
their company and they needed someone with my

00:32:38.490 --> 00:32:42.049
skill set. There's a lot of things I went to

00:32:42.049 --> 00:32:44.210
them, you know, things they're already doing

00:32:44.210 --> 00:32:47.660
like my yearbook rep had said. You know, one

00:32:47.660 --> 00:32:49.759
of the things that I wanted in this next phase,

00:32:49.819 --> 00:32:52.380
because I've been commuting so much, is the opportunity

00:32:52.380 --> 00:32:55.779
to have more remote time. I want a hybrid position

00:32:55.779 --> 00:32:58.980
with the ability to work remotely. I'd like to

00:32:58.980 --> 00:33:01.480
spend some time in warmer weather as I get older.

00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:06.759
This company, their dead time is during our cold

00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.380
time in Wisconsin, so that is actually a possibility.

00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:13.640
But basically, I was like... Do you just need

00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:15.720
someone to put together elementary and middle

00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:17.420
school yearbooks at home? And they were like,

00:33:17.420 --> 00:33:20.299
yeah, we have people who do that. Yes, they have

00:33:20.299 --> 00:33:22.279
a lot on their plates. We could always use that

00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.539
help. But like, we could use you for so much

00:33:25.539 --> 00:33:28.960
more than that. But that's originally what I

00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.420
expected to be doing, like using my yearbook

00:33:31.420 --> 00:33:35.980
skills. Not everybody has those skills to help

00:33:35.980 --> 00:33:39.460
them in some capacity. And so that's where the

00:33:39.460 --> 00:33:42.849
conversation started. And then from there it

00:33:42.849 --> 00:33:46.130
evolved, you know, by me then finding out more

00:33:46.130 --> 00:33:49.849
about what their needs were and how I could be

00:33:49.849 --> 00:33:54.190
a fit for them. And this, like I said, was at

00:33:54.190 --> 00:33:57.210
least three to four conversations. And at one

00:33:57.210 --> 00:34:00.390
point they pulled in another person who was this

00:34:00.390 --> 00:34:04.279
parent whose children I had. and knew of me,

00:34:04.380 --> 00:34:07.680
knew my work, and many different aspects. And

00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:09.940
so we just started talking about what this could

00:34:09.940 --> 00:34:12.940
look like. And that evolved from their goals

00:34:12.940 --> 00:34:16.840
and my goals to them having conversations with

00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:19.960
people who were currently employed there. They

00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.340
wanted to ask them, are there parts of your job

00:34:22.340 --> 00:34:24.500
you would like to get off your plate that I could

00:34:24.500 --> 00:34:28.730
help with? And then I basically... Told them

00:34:28.730 --> 00:34:31.070
some of the things that I thought that they could

00:34:31.070 --> 00:34:34.849
maybe offer or add That they weren't currently

00:34:34.849 --> 00:34:37.829
doing that was in my wheelhouse that that I could

00:34:37.829 --> 00:34:40.090
help with and they took notes and took notes

00:34:40.090 --> 00:34:43.949
And we just kept talking about okay You know,

00:34:44.170 --> 00:34:47.050
how could this look they had to wait, you know,

00:34:47.170 --> 00:34:49.769
because this definitely started in January and

00:34:49.769 --> 00:34:54.119
didn't Finalize until you know, I think late

00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:57.579
March, early April, yeah, April. And so they

00:34:57.579 --> 00:34:59.920
had, they were waiting for certain pieces of

00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:02.360
their puzzle and certain answers because again,

00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.699
they didn't have a job posting. I went to them

00:35:05.699 --> 00:35:08.239
and they said, tell us exactly what you want.

00:35:08.500 --> 00:35:12.119
I told them exactly what I wanted and they created

00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.820
a job around that. We did have to negotiate salary

00:35:15.820 --> 00:35:18.679
a little bit and I can't just walk into that

00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.900
position making what I made as a teacher, but

00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.340
You know, I talked to a lot of people about this

00:35:24.340 --> 00:35:27.820
and I talked about it on my podcast as well of

00:35:27.820 --> 00:35:31.239
like, there are different types of wealth. And,

00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:35.539
you know, if working remotely from a sunny location

00:35:35.539 --> 00:35:38.719
is worth 20 grand to you, then it's worth 20

00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:42.260
grand to you, right? This stage of my life, I

00:35:42.260 --> 00:35:44.820
want more flexibility. I want those 10 hours

00:35:44.820 --> 00:35:48.820
in my car back. And I will still have to drive

00:35:48.820 --> 00:35:51.360
quite a ways when I need to go into the office,

00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:55.380
but it will not be five days a week. Um, and

00:35:55.380 --> 00:36:00.159
again, just a lot more flexibility, really amazing

00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.599
people to work for. Like if you wanted to pick

00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.519
your ideal bosses. And again, I haven't started

00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.849
yet. I don't start until July, but you know,

00:36:08.849 --> 00:36:12.210
I know of them too and have crossed paths with

00:36:12.210 --> 00:36:16.570
them previously in my life. And so how crazy,

00:36:16.570 --> 00:36:19.889
right? That just going from like, oh my God,

00:36:19.929 --> 00:36:23.809
what have I done? What am I going to do? To putting

00:36:23.809 --> 00:36:28.409
out into the universe, this is what I want and

00:36:28.409 --> 00:36:31.449
going to find it. And in a lot of cases, you

00:36:31.449 --> 00:36:33.929
know, as I've explained, sometimes it has come

00:36:33.929 --> 00:36:38.460
to me without even asking. So I just think it's

00:36:38.460 --> 00:36:42.079
so important to really think about your life's

00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:46.059
work and the skills that you build or, you know,

00:36:46.260 --> 00:36:50.300
choose to have in your life. And so yeah, I'm

00:36:50.300 --> 00:36:54.539
gonna be working full time. That was my, it's

00:36:54.539 --> 00:36:56.860
going to be seasonal though. It's gonna be like

00:36:56.860 --> 00:36:59.780
a lot of hours. during some parts of the year

00:36:59.780 --> 00:37:03.039
that are really busy for them and then falling

00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:06.579
short of full time during their quieter periods.

00:37:07.380 --> 00:37:10.360
And so, you know, I know that it's going to be

00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:12.239
year round. And, you know, one of the biggest

00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.079
things people say is like, how can you give up

00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.960
your summers off? Well, if I'm going to be honest

00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:21.559
with you, I could not relax or decompress as

00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.489
a teacher until 4th of July. is where I felt

00:37:24.489 --> 00:37:28.130
like, okay, I'm a human again. And then honestly,

00:37:28.349 --> 00:37:30.789
meetings started at the beginning of August.

00:37:32.150 --> 00:37:34.909
So yeah, I felt like I had a month of summer

00:37:34.909 --> 00:37:38.730
and I always worked another job, whether it was

00:37:38.730 --> 00:37:41.010
related to teaching, like teaching summer journalism

00:37:41.010 --> 00:37:44.710
workshops, you know, by my choice, or, you know,

00:37:45.090 --> 00:37:47.250
that I wanted something completely not related

00:37:47.250 --> 00:37:49.369
to teaching because I was starting to get burned

00:37:49.369 --> 00:37:52.989
out. And I've talked about that during this episode.

00:37:53.389 --> 00:37:57.670
I always like to have something to provide structure

00:37:57.670 --> 00:38:02.190
and just build new skills and explore. And so

00:38:02.190 --> 00:38:05.250
that doesn't phase me. Also, everybody who I've

00:38:05.250 --> 00:38:07.210
talked to who's transitioned out of teaching

00:38:07.210 --> 00:38:10.150
to working year round is like, it's just so different.

00:38:10.409 --> 00:38:13.650
You're not completely exhausted by the end of

00:38:13.650 --> 00:38:16.369
the week, especially if you're working at home.

00:38:16.489 --> 00:38:20.889
You don't have the extreme mental load that teachers

00:38:20.889 --> 00:38:23.630
carry. And so you're not in your pajamas by six

00:38:23.630 --> 00:38:26.630
o 'clock on Friday, which I am most Fridays.

00:38:27.469 --> 00:38:29.949
So I think it's just different. And that doesn't

00:38:29.949 --> 00:38:33.469
bother me. I'll still have plenty of time to

00:38:33.469 --> 00:38:35.349
do what I want to do, especially if I'm getting

00:38:35.349 --> 00:38:39.710
10 hours a week back in my car. You know, I will

00:38:39.710 --> 00:38:42.070
be working full time. I will be working for a

00:38:42.070 --> 00:38:45.449
photography and yearbook company with amazing

00:38:45.449 --> 00:38:47.929
bosses. A lot of people who are my supervisors

00:38:47.929 --> 00:38:51.409
are people who I know or people who are on my

00:38:51.409 --> 00:38:54.449
team are people who I have worked with in my

00:38:54.449 --> 00:38:57.869
yearbook journey. So that's kind of fun. And

00:38:57.869 --> 00:39:00.469
I'm just excited to again, I'm going to be learning

00:39:00.469 --> 00:39:02.809
a ton. I'm sure it'll be like drinking out of

00:39:02.809 --> 00:39:06.880
a fire hose. I love that. I love learning new

00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.840
things. This is just another avenue for me to

00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:13.920
build my skill set and to hopefully, you know,

00:39:14.219 --> 00:39:18.400
provide value with the skills that I have. So,

00:39:18.500 --> 00:39:21.619
you know, I guess if I have to turn this into

00:39:21.619 --> 00:39:25.599
a lesson and some takeaways today is, you know,

00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.730
trust your instincts. but plan practically. This

00:39:30.730 --> 00:39:33.210
was not an overnight decision, although I feel

00:39:33.210 --> 00:39:35.429
like, you know, one day I was like, I have to

00:39:35.429 --> 00:39:38.389
do it. There were years and years of conversations

00:39:38.389 --> 00:39:42.610
leading up to that. Your skills are more transferable

00:39:42.610 --> 00:39:45.349
than you think, and you may have to think outside

00:39:45.349 --> 00:39:50.849
the box for how you use them. When I graduated

00:39:50.849 --> 00:39:54.449
from college 30 years ago, many of the jobs that

00:39:54.449 --> 00:39:57.920
exist now didn't exist and so you know kind of

00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.659
think about what could I do or what am I willing

00:40:01.659 --> 00:40:05.599
to learn courses am I willing to take in order

00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:10.019
to provide value to another company it is okay

00:40:10.019 --> 00:40:14.179
to grieve your old chapter and be excited about

00:40:14.179 --> 00:40:17.739
the new one you know yeah I want my classroom

00:40:17.739 --> 00:40:20.280
packed up so on that last day I am out and I

00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.599
am you know, not going to look back. There are

00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:25.579
definitely things that I'm going to miss and

00:40:25.579 --> 00:40:29.800
it is sad, but it's time. And oh my gosh, I'm

00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:35.179
so excited to see what's next for me. And community

00:40:35.179 --> 00:40:39.280
and mentorship are crucial during big transitions.

00:40:40.059 --> 00:40:46.280
Thank you so much to my sister who held me up

00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:50.239
during this agonizing decision and listened to

00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:54.000
me over the years and knew that it was time and

00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.659
knew she told me she could hear it in my voice,

00:40:56.820 --> 00:40:59.420
knew that I had made the right decision, and

00:40:59.420 --> 00:41:02.079
has helped me on this entire podcasting journey.

00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:07.280
So much still is I mean multiple texts a day

00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.980
there for a while Thank you so much Renee and

00:41:10.980 --> 00:41:13.940
also Brett, of course my significant other who

00:41:13.940 --> 00:41:18.199
you know taught me that True life fulfillment

00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:22.559
is not tied to money is not tied to your identity

00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:26.500
in a career and that it is okay to put yourself

00:41:26.500 --> 00:41:31.039
first. Thank you, thank you for supporting me

00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.079
and thinking, you know, these tough decisions

00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.760
through with me and providing a model for what's

00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:41.460
really important in life. So definitely find

00:41:41.460 --> 00:41:46.559
your people who, you know, won't judge you and

00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:51.179
are there to hear what's right for you, not what

00:41:51.179 --> 00:41:55.010
society says you should be doing, or what the

00:41:55.010 --> 00:41:58.530
bank says you should be doing. It's never too

00:41:58.530 --> 00:42:02.190
late to start again. And you are brave, and you

00:42:02.190 --> 00:42:06.429
are curious, and you are strong. You can do it.

00:42:06.989 --> 00:42:09.989
So two short action steps for today. I want you

00:42:09.989 --> 00:42:13.150
to frame this in. You are not starting over.

00:42:13.769 --> 00:42:18.369
You are starting. from where you are now. And

00:42:18.369 --> 00:42:20.809
so it's not like you're starting as a newbie

00:42:20.809 --> 00:42:23.369
fresh out of college. You are starting with so

00:42:23.369 --> 00:42:27.809
much life experience and so many skills, right?

00:42:27.849 --> 00:42:30.969
So I want you to not think about it as like a

00:42:30.969 --> 00:42:34.869
clean slate, but definitely all of these assets

00:42:34.869 --> 00:42:38.570
that you have. And with that idea then, if you

00:42:38.570 --> 00:42:42.519
could... Get a fresh start. What passions do

00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:46.320
you have and what careers align with that? And

00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:49.300
that could just start with a simple list. Or

00:42:49.300 --> 00:42:53.239
I'm sorry, I use chat GPT to solve a lot of my

00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:56.900
burning questions and it is actually so helpful.

00:42:57.380 --> 00:43:00.599
And the more that I use it, the more it knows

00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:03.699
about my life and things that are important to

00:43:03.699 --> 00:43:06.340
me. And I know that sounds ridiculous because

00:43:06.340 --> 00:43:09.519
it's AI, but you can have these conversations

00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:12.500
with people who know you. But sometimes it's

00:43:12.500 --> 00:43:17.220
really nice to just have an objective. artificial

00:43:17.220 --> 00:43:20.800
intelligence to provide you with some, you know,

00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:24.679
again, jobs that I didn't know existed or creative

00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:27.260
ways to use my skills that I didn't know existed.

00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.659
Actually, just help with brainstorming was really

00:43:30.659 --> 00:43:34.900
great. And then in my last episode, episode 33,

00:43:35.219 --> 00:43:38.460
that's where I talked about identity and just

00:43:38.460 --> 00:43:41.420
who you are at your core and what is important

00:43:41.420 --> 00:43:44.820
to you, what your top three values are. So, you

00:43:44.820 --> 00:43:49.210
know, I would, I think, start with some journaling,

00:43:49.269 --> 00:43:52.030
whether it's downloading that free journal that

00:43:52.030 --> 00:43:54.869
I offered to do some brainstorming there about

00:43:54.869 --> 00:43:58.369
what's important to you, or again, find a journal,

00:43:58.849 --> 00:44:02.590
but do some writing, do some reflecting, really

00:44:02.590 --> 00:44:05.349
put it out there so that you can see it in black

00:44:05.349 --> 00:44:08.090
and white. So that's what I'm gonna leave you

00:44:08.090 --> 00:44:12.360
with today. I'm sure that I will be as I get

00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:14.619
started in July, you know talking a little bit

00:44:14.619 --> 00:44:16.820
more specifically about what I'm going to be

00:44:16.820 --> 00:44:20.719
doing Because you know, I have a lot of hats

00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.559
that I'll be wearing but I can't really Visualize

00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:26.539
them because I haven't worked for a company like

00:44:26.539 --> 00:44:33.320
this before so stay tuned Alright guys, thanks

00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.639
for joining me for this personal episode of life's

00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.320
next lesson plan If you're standing on the edge

00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.739
of a big change, whether by choice or circumstance,

00:44:43.260 --> 00:44:45.739
I hope today reminded you that starting over

00:44:45.739 --> 00:44:48.400
doesn't mean starting from scratch. It means

00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:51.820
starting from experience. So leaving behind a

00:44:51.820 --> 00:44:54.960
29 -year career is not going to be easy, but

00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:58.820
definitely necessary for my health, for my growth,

00:44:58.860 --> 00:45:02.019
and for the life I still want to build. I'm learning

00:45:02.019 --> 00:45:04.460
that reinvention is less about having all the

00:45:04.460 --> 00:45:07.119
answers and more about trusting yourself enough.

00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.739
to take the next step, even when the road is

00:45:10.739 --> 00:45:14.320
unclear. If today's conversation resonated with

00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.719
you, I'd love to hear what chapter you're stepping

00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.800
into or dreaming about. And if you're looking

00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.699
for support and rediscovering your identity during

00:45:22.699 --> 00:45:26.099
a transition, don't forget to grab my free identity

00:45:26.099 --> 00:45:29.840
journal at Life's Next Lesson Plan dot com slash

00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:33.349
freebies. Let this be a reminder, it's never

00:45:33.349 --> 00:45:35.949
too late to become the version of yourself you've

00:45:35.949 --> 00:45:39.630
been quietly envisioning. And if you know someone

00:45:39.630 --> 00:45:43.030
who could benefit from this message, please be

00:45:43.030 --> 00:45:47.070
sure to share the podcast. And it always helps

00:45:47.070 --> 00:45:50.789
me grow the podcast if you do that, as well as

00:45:50.789 --> 00:45:53.630
scrolling down and leaving a rate and review.

00:45:53.809 --> 00:45:56.510
Thank you so much to those of you who've already

00:45:56.510 --> 00:45:59.969
done that. You can also join me on Instagram

00:45:59.969 --> 00:46:03.449
at Life's Next Lesson Plan or on my YouTube channel

00:46:03.449 --> 00:46:05.869
where I've been counting down my final days in

00:46:05.869 --> 00:46:09.969
the classroom and also chronicling our new upcoming

00:46:09.969 --> 00:46:14.710
camper adventures. So until next time, stay curious,

00:46:15.309 --> 00:46:19.050
stay brave, and keep writing your next lesson

00:46:19.050 --> 00:46:19.349
plan.
