WEBVTT 00:00:04.990 --> 00:00:09.029 We're starting this episode with a big, deep 00:00:09.029 --> 00:00:13.369 breath. The week I am taping this, something 00:00:13.369 --> 00:00:17.989 big is happening. My daughter, my only child, 00:00:18.589 --> 00:00:22.530 is turning 18. In just a few short months, she'll 00:00:22.530 --> 00:00:25.289 be packing up her life and heading to college 00:00:25.289 --> 00:00:28.910 in another state. I always knew this day would 00:00:28.910 --> 00:00:32.670 come. But now that it's here, I'm feeling everything 00:00:32.670 --> 00:00:37.130 at once. Pride, excitement, and uncertainty. 00:00:38.149 --> 00:00:40.490 We've always been incredibly close and the thought 00:00:40.490 --> 00:00:44.229 of not seeing her as much is a little overwhelming. 00:00:44.570 --> 00:00:48.030 Not gonna lie. But allow me to get a little honest 00:00:48.030 --> 00:00:51.829 and reflective with you for a second. I realized 00:00:51.829 --> 00:00:55.409 something. Life has actually been quietly preparing 00:00:55.409 --> 00:01:00.399 me for this moment all along. Five years ago, 00:01:00.420 --> 00:01:02.719 when I got divorced, I had to learn what it meant 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:06.519 to share time. To go from being together every 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:10.379 day to only half the time. And then as she grew 00:01:10.379 --> 00:01:13.980 into an independent young woman, I saw her less 00:01:13.980 --> 00:01:17.400 and less, especially after I moved a little further 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:21.060 away a year ago. Her world started expanding 00:01:21.060 --> 00:01:26.079 beyond mine. And now, here we are. We're in the 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:30.909 final stretch. before this big transition. So 00:01:30.909 --> 00:01:32.989 today I want to talk a little bit about what 00:01:32.989 --> 00:01:36.030 happens when parenthood shifts, when the role 00:01:36.030 --> 00:01:38.430 you've poured your heart into for so many years 00:01:38.430 --> 00:01:42.230 suddenly changes, how we embrace the next chapter, 00:01:42.969 --> 00:01:46.969 not just for our kids, but for ourselves. How 00:01:46.969 --> 00:01:50.030 do we find joy, purpose, and even new dreams 00:01:50.030 --> 00:01:54.049 in this new stage of life? So today's conversation 00:01:54.049 --> 00:01:57.019 is a bit personal. And if you're on this journey 00:01:57.019 --> 00:02:01.019 too, or know you'll be here someday, I hope it 00:02:01.019 --> 00:02:03.939 resonates with you and we can figure this out 00:02:03.939 --> 00:02:11.159 together. Thank you for joining me for another 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:13.979 episode of Life's Next Lesson Plan. I'm Rachel 00:02:13.979 --> 00:02:17.080 and I started this podcast during my 29th and 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:20.000 last year as a high school teacher. Goal of my 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:22.479 work with Life's Next Lesson Plan as well as 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:25.460 my Live and Learn Patreon is to create a connection 00:02:25.460 --> 00:02:28.259 where we are all teachers. We all have lessons 00:02:28.259 --> 00:02:31.240 and stories to share that can help others. I'm 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:33.620 so fortunate to be able to extend the four walls 00:02:33.620 --> 00:02:37.139 of my previous classroom to an unlimited audience. 00:02:37.789 --> 00:02:40.389 where we can all learn from each other. And my 00:02:40.389 --> 00:02:42.870 guests are some of the most inspirational people 00:02:42.870 --> 00:02:45.949 with the best stories and lessons I know, which 00:02:45.949 --> 00:02:49.150 is why I want to share them with you. 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But I'm going to go back to 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:36.079 the schedule that I started out with, where I 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:39.079 have just one episode on life's next lesson plan 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:42.399 per week. And then I'm going to be pouring in 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:44.980 a little bit more energy into my Live and Learn 00:04:44.980 --> 00:04:49.139 Patreon. So my episodes will release each Monday 00:04:49.139 --> 00:04:52.819 as they have been, and then I'll probably do 00:04:52.819 --> 00:04:55.699 a mixture of guest and solo episodes as I always 00:04:55.699 --> 00:04:58.379 have. And I'm going to be concentrating a little 00:04:58.379 --> 00:05:01.379 bit more on my Patreon. So if you're interested 00:05:01.379 --> 00:05:04.519 in checking that out, I do have some paid episodes 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.620 and I do have some free content there as well. 00:05:08.060 --> 00:05:11.819 You just go to patreon .com slash live and learn. 00:05:12.910 --> 00:05:16.269 Patreon houses more personal episodes because 00:05:16.269 --> 00:05:19.350 they're behind a paywall and I will just again 00:05:19.350 --> 00:05:22.170 be very transparent and honest and saying that 00:05:22.170 --> 00:05:26.300 I have held back. a little bit while I'm still 00:05:26.300 --> 00:05:30.420 in the classroom and as I'm getting my toes dipped 00:05:30.420 --> 00:05:33.920 into the podcasting waters but I am much more 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:37.620 comfortable now and ready in my new chapter to 00:05:37.620 --> 00:05:41.399 sort of go all in on Patreon and that's part 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:44.259 of why I'm making this decision as well because 00:05:44.259 --> 00:05:48.060 I still want to connect with all of my listeners 00:05:48.060 --> 00:05:51.639 here on the Life's Next Lesson Plan podcast but 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:55.360 I also have had again some serendipitous things 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:59.699 come up in my life that are giving me signs and 00:05:59.699 --> 00:06:02.399 nudges that I need to put some energy there as 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:04.480 well. So if you're really enjoying some of the 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:07.879 more personal content here I would love to have 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:11.120 you be part of my patreon community again at 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:15.459 patreon .com live and learn. And speaking of 00:06:15.459 --> 00:06:20.300 Patreon, I have another big announcement, but 00:06:20.300 --> 00:06:24.459 I'm going to save it until the end of the episode. 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:27.639 So you can catch the second big announcement 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:31.839 at the end of today's show. Today we're diving 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.279 into how we can embrace the freedom and opportunities 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:39.709 that come with an empty nest. From rediscovering 00:06:39.709 --> 00:06:43.129 your own personal joys to maybe pursuing new 00:06:43.129 --> 00:06:46.949 career paths and hobbies Whether you're in this 00:06:46.949 --> 00:06:50.470 phase now or preparing for it soon Let's talk 00:06:50.470 --> 00:06:54.389 about making this transition one of growth excitement 00:06:54.389 --> 00:06:59.129 and purpose So I think probably the best place 00:06:59.129 --> 00:07:04.829 to start is just my own personal journey and 00:07:04.829 --> 00:07:08.009 I'll be careful not to get too personal because 00:07:08.009 --> 00:07:10.790 I want to protect my daughter and save some of 00:07:10.790 --> 00:07:15.430 that for Patreon but I think it's gone kind of 00:07:15.430 --> 00:07:20.589 in stages where she will be the first to admit 00:07:20.589 --> 00:07:24.230 that she had a pretty idyllic childhood for the 00:07:24.230 --> 00:07:28.810 most part and her parents had mostly when she 00:07:28.810 --> 00:07:32.889 was younger an equal role in her life and then 00:07:32.889 --> 00:07:36.899 I think that Definitely when we moved when she 00:07:36.899 --> 00:07:41.160 was in second grade, that started to shift a 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:43.800 little bit as her dad had more responsibilities 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:48.519 and we were kind of spending most of the time 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:52.980 just the two of us together. And then as things 00:07:52.980 --> 00:07:55.779 got closer to the divorce in her middle school 00:07:55.779 --> 00:08:00.019 years, there was definitely. a lot of turbulence 00:08:00.019 --> 00:08:07.139 at home. And when I left for the divorce two 00:08:07.139 --> 00:08:09.959 months before the world shut down for COVID, 00:08:10.779 --> 00:08:13.100 she wasn't really on speaking terms with her 00:08:13.100 --> 00:08:17.160 father. So, you know, it was the two of us against 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:20.639 the world, it kind of felt like. And so there 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:26.339 was that. And then a lot of work went into rebuilding 00:08:26.339 --> 00:08:29.399 that relationship with her father and I would 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:32.000 say thankfully for the both of them they're at 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:35.820 the height of their relationship now. And all 00:08:35.820 --> 00:08:38.200 of this is to say that you know we all we all 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:42.259 have our own journeys and if I had to go through 00:08:42.259 --> 00:08:46.000 this transition to an empty nest and her leaving 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.139 home five years ago it would have been a very 00:08:49.139 --> 00:08:54.220 different and very difficult situation. So, I'm 00:08:54.220 --> 00:08:56.360 such a firm believer in things happening the 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:59.159 way they're supposed to, even if they're extremely 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:03.429 difficult at the time. It's typical that when 00:09:03.429 --> 00:09:07.009 I look back, it usually seems in the long run 00:09:07.009 --> 00:09:10.769 to be for the best. So long story short, I'm 00:09:10.769 --> 00:09:14.889 definitely more prepared now than at any point 00:09:14.889 --> 00:09:17.429 in our relationship for her to spread her wings 00:09:17.429 --> 00:09:21.169 and move on to her next chapter. I think because 00:09:21.169 --> 00:09:24.389 her father and I are both in new relationships, 00:09:25.009 --> 00:09:27.649 she has shared with me that she feels a little 00:09:27.649 --> 00:09:31.590 bit untethered and is having a hard time establishing 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:35.700 either of our new places as her home. You know 00:09:35.700 --> 00:09:38.500 she really longs for kind of that feeling of 00:09:38.500 --> 00:09:42.120 home that she had growing up and so she's ready 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:45.100 to build her adult life and you know move to 00:09:45.100 --> 00:09:48.980 a new city and sort of establish adulthood I 00:09:48.980 --> 00:09:52.879 would think and that was hard to hear. You know 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.259 there's been a lot of pieces of this journey 00:09:55.259 --> 00:09:58.799 that have been hard to hear based on you know 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:02.409 decisions that were made but I understand and 00:10:02.409 --> 00:10:05.610 again this might be good for her as a child who 00:10:05.610 --> 00:10:09.309 always felt really attached to home and to her 00:10:09.309 --> 00:10:12.429 parents this might be good timing for her too 00:10:12.429 --> 00:10:15.850 and without getting you know too deep into it 00:10:15.850 --> 00:10:18.809 again I'm trusting the process and accepting 00:10:18.809 --> 00:10:22.289 that there definitely will be ups and downs but 00:10:22.789 --> 00:10:26.490 To me, I feel like we're as prepared as we could 00:10:26.490 --> 00:10:29.350 be. I don't know if we're ever fully prepared 00:10:29.350 --> 00:10:34.080 for life's big moments. When you decide to have 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:38.100 a child or buy a house or any big life transitions, 00:10:38.100 --> 00:10:40.799 I think there's always a little bit of uncertainty 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:44.299 and trepidation. So that goes with the territory. 00:10:44.379 --> 00:10:48.019 But we can take steps to prepare for the transitions 00:10:48.019 --> 00:10:51.419 we know are ahead of us. And that's kind of what 00:10:51.419 --> 00:10:54.919 I want to focus on today. Probably any parent 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:57.940 who has had teenagers know that kind of once 00:10:57.940 --> 00:11:02.460 they get their license at 16, and they have jobs 00:11:02.460 --> 00:11:05.220 and they have sports and they have clubs and 00:11:05.220 --> 00:11:08.080 they have friends it's you know their home less 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:10.980 and less and maybe that's the universe's way 00:11:10.980 --> 00:11:14.440 as well as for you know kind of getting us ready 00:11:14.440 --> 00:11:20.200 but as we do look ahead at this new chapter and 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.340 I you know I'm such a planner that obviously 00:11:22.340 --> 00:11:25.200 I've been thinking about this for a long time 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:29.440 and you know will I be okay and again years ago, 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:33.659 I probably wouldn't have, but I feel like because 00:11:33.659 --> 00:11:37.419 I've been sort of putting things in place and 00:11:37.419 --> 00:11:41.240 mentally preparing myself, I definitely feel 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:45.799 ready and I see her less and less. And again, 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:49.480 that's good and bad. But, you know, I've been 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:53.779 doing obviously a lot of things to sort of redefine 00:11:53.779 --> 00:11:59.370 my next chapter. I never would have thought that 00:11:59.370 --> 00:12:02.190 I would have been leaving teaching at the exact 00:12:02.190 --> 00:12:04.850 same time that she'd be transitioning to college. 00:12:05.370 --> 00:12:09.070 And really the two are totally unrelated. It 00:12:09.070 --> 00:12:13.289 just happens to be when, you know, my original 00:12:13.289 --> 00:12:15.990 plan a year ago was to stay for at least four 00:12:15.990 --> 00:12:18.389 more years while she was in college because then 00:12:18.389 --> 00:12:21.789 I'd have that guaranteed salary. And, you know, 00:12:21.789 --> 00:12:25.330 we all know how that goes, but I just couldn't. 00:12:25.370 --> 00:12:29.190 was getting a really strong tug and a very strong 00:12:29.190 --> 00:12:32.070 feeling that this is when I needed to go but 00:12:32.070 --> 00:12:34.470 neither one of them have I you know anything 00:12:34.470 --> 00:12:36.629 to do with each other and some people might say 00:12:36.629 --> 00:12:39.210 this is terrible timing to do that because you're 00:12:39.210 --> 00:12:42.230 already going through this other transition and 00:12:42.230 --> 00:12:44.549 some people might say it's a great time to do 00:12:44.549 --> 00:12:47.529 that you know because when you look at the next 00:12:47.529 --> 00:12:50.470 chapter and again for me I only have one child 00:12:50.470 --> 00:12:54.100 so it's she's out of the nest the nest is empty 00:12:54.100 --> 00:12:57.840 you know there are different things to think 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:01.860 about as far as like unexpected joys of more 00:13:01.860 --> 00:13:05.299 time and space and then there's also how do we 00:13:05.299 --> 00:13:08.000 fill in that time especially if you're someone 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:11.700 who has had your child at home with you 24 -7 00:13:11.700 --> 00:13:15.840 you know like I used to but as life should have 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:22.289 it I went from 100 % to 50 % or there was some 00:13:22.289 --> 00:13:26.370 gradual change to that and then now even less 00:13:26.370 --> 00:13:30.950 than that. So you know I have already I think 00:13:30.950 --> 00:13:36.110 found ways to fill that extra time. Over time 00:13:36.110 --> 00:13:38.909 I've been doing that so maybe it's less abrupt 00:13:38.909 --> 00:13:42.019 for me and that's something that I would... Highly 00:13:42.019 --> 00:13:44.179 highly recommend. I mean, I think I just had 00:13:44.179 --> 00:13:46.580 a conversation with a friend yesterday about 00:13:47.150 --> 00:13:50.409 how important it is to have your own identity. 00:13:50.470 --> 00:13:53.490 We were just talking about in a relationship 00:13:53.490 --> 00:13:56.990 or in a marriage that, you know, a lot of times, 00:13:57.110 --> 00:14:00.129 you know, you become the couple and your identity 00:14:00.129 --> 00:14:02.490 is wrapped up in that and your happiness is wrapped 00:14:02.490 --> 00:14:06.029 up in that other person. And it's so important 00:14:06.029 --> 00:14:09.990 to maintain your own identity. You know, if your 00:14:09.990 --> 00:14:12.990 identity is wrapped up in being a mom or a parent, 00:14:13.350 --> 00:14:16.529 same thing, right? Like what happens when that 00:14:16.529 --> 00:14:19.779 part of your identity shifts and I've had this 00:14:19.779 --> 00:14:22.100 conversation on this podcast with people who've 00:14:22.100 --> 00:14:25.600 retired about if your identity for 29 years has 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:29.720 been a teacher again what happens when that shifts 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:33.580 and you know I always remember Anne Cook and 00:14:33.580 --> 00:14:36.460 her story talking about same thing happened to 00:14:36.460 --> 00:14:40.879 her she became an empty nester and you know her 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:43.759 teaching career was over and it was a difficult 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.519 identity shift for her. So I always have thought 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:51.179 of that story and have been planning for it, 00:14:51.179 --> 00:14:57.259 I would say. So I definitely have a lot of hobbies 00:14:57.259 --> 00:15:01.460 and things that I look forward to doing by myself. 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.320 The other part of the conversation I had with 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.460 my friend yesterday was, if something were to 00:15:09.460 --> 00:15:12.559 happen to your significant other, God forbid, 00:15:13.179 --> 00:15:16.139 you know, how do you fill that time? And I had 00:15:16.139 --> 00:15:20.240 to do a lot of soul searching during COVID when, 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:22.940 you know, that I was isolated and there were 00:15:22.940 --> 00:15:25.980 only so many things you can do. And I've always 00:15:25.980 --> 00:15:29.080 enjoyed working out and running, but that's when 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:32.070 I found cycle bar, which at that point in my 00:15:32.070 --> 00:15:36.769 life was super pivotal to me. I had kind of a 00:15:36.769 --> 00:15:39.649 community there. I ended up working there. I 00:15:39.649 --> 00:15:44.450 loved the workouts, still do. I don't go as much, 00:15:44.450 --> 00:15:48.370 but I still really love that. Found paddle boarding, 00:15:48.669 --> 00:15:52.549 found kayaking, you know, more time outside. 00:15:53.029 --> 00:15:56.009 Now we're going to be spending more time camping 00:15:56.009 --> 00:16:00.519 and hiking. And again, some of these things I'm 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:04.440 doing with a life partner, but a lot of that 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.679 is things that I would do on my own. I mean, 00:16:07.779 --> 00:16:10.379 even in my previous marriage, I would go to the 00:16:10.379 --> 00:16:14.019 lake by myself. You know, I would go for walks 00:16:14.019 --> 00:16:16.840 with the dogs by myself. I would go running by 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:19.960 myself. So I think it's just really important 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.919 to think about, like, how am I going to fill 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:27.379 that time and what... are the parts of my identity, 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:31.600 like what is my identity as me, not related to 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:34.480 a career, not related to a parenting role, not 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:38.340 related to a relationship. I think that's really 00:16:38.340 --> 00:16:41.980 important. And then, you know, all the plus sides 00:16:41.980 --> 00:16:45.960 of, you know, both this happening at the same 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:49.120 time as my career shifting and hopefully having 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:52.419 a little bit more flexibility in my next role 00:16:52.419 --> 00:16:55.860 is like all the things that I feel like I have 00:16:55.860 --> 00:17:00.240 been putting on hold I'm going to little by little 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:04.160 try to make an effort to do so you know similar 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:06.960 to like having a coffee day yesterday with a 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:11.680 friend and carving out time you know to now I 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:15.680 can travel not just three times a year, not just 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:18.099 summer, winter break and spring break, you know, 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:21.400 like all the most popular times to travel and 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.720 how will that look and having more spontaneous 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:28.660 plans and more flexibility. So really trying 00:17:28.660 --> 00:17:35.259 to look at the silver lining and I definitely, 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:38.759 if I'm being honest, you know, there have been 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:44.650 times where have felt guilty and I know again 00:17:44.650 --> 00:17:52.710 try to protect my daughter's story but it's hard 00:17:52.710 --> 00:17:57.490 I'm sure to watch your parent move on without 00:17:57.490 --> 00:18:01.809 you and enjoy life. And that has been hard, I 00:18:01.809 --> 00:18:05.069 know, for a fact. And there's this guilt that 00:18:05.069 --> 00:18:08.390 comes with like, am I allowed to enjoy this chapter 00:18:08.390 --> 00:18:12.430 of my life? And maybe, you know, I'm so emotional, 00:18:12.569 --> 00:18:16.480 maybe that's just harder for me, but I'd be curious 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:19.140 for those of you who have been through this, 00:18:19.299 --> 00:18:22.420 you know, how you feel about some of the things 00:18:22.420 --> 00:18:24.400 that I've talked about, you know, establishing 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:27.440 your own identity. Was this an easy transition 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.779 for you? What did you do? What helped you adjust 00:18:30.779 --> 00:18:35.019 to the transition? I'd be curious. So we're going 00:18:35.019 --> 00:18:37.180 to take a little break here because I feel like 00:18:37.180 --> 00:18:40.240 I've been sort of rambling on and then we'll 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:46.279 be back in a little bit. 100 % of men and women 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:49.059 have hormones, and with the increased presence 00:18:49.059 --> 00:18:51.720 of processed foods and environmental toxins, 00:18:52.259 --> 00:18:54.099 it's more important than ever to make mindful 00:18:54.099 --> 00:18:57.400 choices in the products we use every day. 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Podcast 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:24.579 that seems out of reach right now Well, I think 00:23:24.579 --> 00:23:28.900 it's sort of twofold one, you know, it's really 00:23:28.900 --> 00:23:33.579 hard to Spread the message of the podcast and 00:23:33.579 --> 00:23:37.509 I guess that happens organically if you have 00:23:37.509 --> 00:23:41.109 good content and it's hard for me to know like 00:23:41.109 --> 00:23:44.690 if I have good content that's just based on feedback 00:23:44.690 --> 00:23:49.130 that I get and then people sharing the podcast 00:23:49.130 --> 00:23:53.250 so you know if I ever find that I feel like it's 00:23:53.250 --> 00:23:56.490 not growing or you know, maybe people aren't 00:23:56.490 --> 00:24:00.049 valuing the content, then that's a sign to me. 00:24:00.069 --> 00:24:03.710 But if it continues to grow and I get good feedback, 00:24:04.210 --> 00:24:07.809 you know, that's a goal is for it to reach more 00:24:07.809 --> 00:24:10.509 ears. And then, you know, something that I've 00:24:10.509 --> 00:24:13.130 been working on is basically just trying to cover 00:24:13.130 --> 00:24:16.109 any costs of the podcast, which are pretty low. 00:24:16.869 --> 00:24:21.009 But I did just this first week have my first 00:24:21.009 --> 00:24:25.859 check. for a sponsor, Litteratus. And then yesterday 00:24:25.859 --> 00:24:28.380 when I was out with a friend at one of my favorite 00:24:28.380 --> 00:24:32.400 local health places, we've been in contact as 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.140 well and they said, oh yeah, we need to sit down 00:24:34.140 --> 00:24:37.000 and reconnect about a meeting. So, you know, 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:41.440 more show sponsors and I think discounts for 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.880 my listeners of places that I frequent and products 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:49.059 that I use. You know, it would be nice to promote 00:24:49.059 --> 00:24:52.130 them and my favorite places, but also So, you 00:24:52.130 --> 00:24:54.410 know, cover the costs of the podcast. So those 00:24:54.410 --> 00:24:56.869 are kind of two things that I've been working 00:24:56.869 --> 00:24:59.289 on, but at the heart of all of that is really 00:24:59.289 --> 00:25:03.130 trying to think about content that is meaningful 00:25:03.130 --> 00:25:07.349 to people and, you know, finding really inspiring 00:25:07.349 --> 00:25:11.869 guests. And then the second question is, oh, 00:25:11.869 --> 00:25:14.970 it's a hard one. If you could go back 10 years. 00:25:15.849 --> 00:25:19.109 What advice would you give yourself? So 10 years 00:25:19.109 --> 00:25:26.130 ago, I was 41. I was still married. Unhappily. 00:25:27.809 --> 00:25:30.809 Obviously since I got a divorce, but so it's 00:25:30.809 --> 00:25:34.730 really hard since I'm someone who believes that 00:25:34.730 --> 00:25:36.930 everything kind of has to happen in order for 00:25:36.930 --> 00:25:39.890 you to get where you are now. And I'm so, so 00:25:39.890 --> 00:25:43.000 like. definitely the happiest I've ever been 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:46.900 in my life now, that it's like, you know, if 00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:48.940 everything wouldn't have happened exactly the 00:25:48.940 --> 00:25:51.980 way it did, I wouldn't be where I am now. So 00:25:51.980 --> 00:25:56.400 it's really hard, but I think, and this is really 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.099 an interesting byproduct of this podcast, is 00:26:00.099 --> 00:26:04.299 I have had people... reach out to me who are 00:26:04.299 --> 00:26:07.140 struggling with some things in their personal 00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:11.079 lives and feel that you know I would understand 00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:14.319 and not judge and that's been such an amazing 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:19.380 unexpected result of this journey because part 00:26:19.380 --> 00:26:22.319 part of me wanted to just go into this next chapter 00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:26.119 and sort of fade into oblivion like really my 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:29.019 plan was to probably not be on social media hardly 00:26:29.019 --> 00:26:32.480 at all and just sort of I don't know have more 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:35.119 of a private life and it's sort of become the 00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:39.059 opposite where you know I'm all over social media 00:26:39.059 --> 00:26:42.880 promoting the podcast and I'm podcasting bits 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:45.799 of my life or actually a lot of my life on patreon 00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:50.660 but You know, we'll see how long I feel comfortable 00:26:50.660 --> 00:26:53.039 doing that and you know right now I'm really 00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:55.720 loving the organic results that are happening 00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:58.500 from it and Getting good feedback. Like I said 00:26:58.500 --> 00:27:02.779 in the previous question. So I just Think I would 00:27:02.779 --> 00:27:09.039 tell myself to trust my gut You know what you're 00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:14.200 feeling is not crazy a you might be being gaslit 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:20.900 you your feelings are valid and protect your 00:27:20.900 --> 00:27:25.380 peace, maintain your identity, follow your joy, 00:27:25.660 --> 00:27:29.819 protect your daughter. You know, all of the things 00:27:29.819 --> 00:27:33.960 I think that I did, a lot of us can probably 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.960 relate to like, I waited too long to do something. 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:40.319 And I think the same thing with, you know, making, 00:27:40.539 --> 00:27:43.099 making any difficult decision to leave a marriage, 00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:46.759 to leave a career, like, It's never easy and 00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:50.160 it never feels like the right time And it happened 00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:53.559 the way it did but you know always believe in 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.819 your gut intuition I think I would give that 00:27:56.819 --> 00:27:59.420 same advice to anybody else including myself 00:27:59.420 --> 00:28:04.200 at that time so As hard as these personal questions 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.880 are, I really enjoy getting them so you can always 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.180 submit questions to me on social media or there 00:28:11.180 --> 00:28:14.660 is a question box on my website at Life's Next 00:28:14.660 --> 00:28:21.359 Lesson Plan dot com. So for today's lesson I 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:25.019 think it's maybe just more of a reflection of 00:28:25.019 --> 00:28:27.920 you know what work have you done if you are going 00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.519 through this or maybe you know even if it's not 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:34.440 an empty nest transition if it's a career transition 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.599 or just sort of a crossroads in a relationship 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:42.000 you know kind of what work have you done to maintain 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:46.089 your individual identity you know reassessing, 00:28:46.170 --> 00:28:49.650 like, is it time for a change in any aspect of 00:28:49.650 --> 00:28:53.210 my identity or my life? You know, what are the 00:28:53.210 --> 00:28:57.589 things that bring me joy? What are my values? 00:28:57.849 --> 00:29:01.289 And as we talk about a lot on the podcast, am 00:29:01.289 --> 00:29:05.029 I living in alignment with my values? It is never, 00:29:05.230 --> 00:29:10.859 ever, ever too late. to change or to start something 00:29:10.859 --> 00:29:14.799 new. And one of my favorite podcasters that I 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.619 follow gave me a suggestion or her listeners 00:29:17.619 --> 00:29:20.839 a suggestion like two years ago that I started 00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:24.779 doing is, you know, following accounts of women 00:29:24.779 --> 00:29:29.619 for me, particularly who are 10 to 20 years older 00:29:29.619 --> 00:29:33.059 than me, whose lives I would like to emulate, 00:29:33.059 --> 00:29:37.890 right? Like there's this amazing train with Joan 00:29:37.890 --> 00:29:41.609 account on Instagram. I'm sure you've seen her 00:29:41.609 --> 00:29:45.049 if you're into fitness, but she's like in her 00:29:45.049 --> 00:29:48.369 70s and she started, you know, her fitness journey 00:29:48.369 --> 00:29:51.890 in her 60s and she's just a beast. She's like 00:29:51.890 --> 00:29:55.730 a Lululemon ambassador. She's, you know, probably 00:29:55.730 --> 00:29:59.769 outlifting me. So, you know, that's I think really 00:29:59.769 --> 00:30:04.769 great is like finding parts of your life that 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.940 you feel, you know, you don't want to miss out 00:30:08.940 --> 00:30:11.019 at the end of your life and say, I always wanted 00:30:11.019 --> 00:30:13.220 to do that, or I wish I would have done that, 00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:17.539 because you can. Like the time is now. And then 00:30:17.539 --> 00:30:20.640 just thinking about, you know, any unexpected 00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:24.640 benefits of working more flexibility and time 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:27.440 into your life, if this is a shift that you're 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:31.259 going to, you know, embark on in the near future. 00:30:32.029 --> 00:30:34.170 you know, how are you going to spend that time? 00:30:34.170 --> 00:30:37.549 And how can we see that added flexibility and 00:30:37.549 --> 00:30:41.589 spontaneity as a gift? So, you know, it's going 00:30:41.589 --> 00:30:46.029 to encounter, you know, different daily habits, 00:30:46.289 --> 00:30:50.630 possibly, and creating new routines, you know, 00:30:50.750 --> 00:30:54.950 no more, you know, driving a kid to sports. And 00:30:54.950 --> 00:30:57.549 again, that changes when they get their own license. 00:30:57.549 --> 00:31:00.049 And so I think that's like a shift that happens 00:31:00.049 --> 00:31:03.549 naturally. But you know, looking at how you can 00:31:03.549 --> 00:31:07.269 maybe restructure some daily habits, how you 00:31:07.269 --> 00:31:11.410 can shift your mindset to see this opportunity 00:31:11.410 --> 00:31:15.849 as a positive and not a loss, although there 00:31:15.849 --> 00:31:19.289 will be days that you feel loss and just like 00:31:19.289 --> 00:31:21.910 that's a whole other conversation of like what 00:31:23.059 --> 00:31:26.680 the routine going to be for you know are we texting 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.799 every day are we FaceTiming once a week you know 00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.029 what is that going to look like which I just 00:31:33.029 --> 00:31:35.230 laugh because that looks so different than when 00:31:35.230 --> 00:31:38.329 I went to college and there weren't cell phones. 00:31:38.809 --> 00:31:40.670 And, you know, I don't know if anybody knew if 00:31:40.670 --> 00:31:43.890 I was alive or dead at college most of the time, 00:31:43.890 --> 00:31:48.049 just so different. And then finding like -minded 00:31:48.049 --> 00:31:50.950 people in this stage of life who you can lean 00:31:50.950 --> 00:31:54.750 on and talk to and putting together sort of that 00:31:54.750 --> 00:31:59.390 little community of support. And, you know, obviously 00:31:59.390 --> 00:32:04.410 the financial To have realizations that have 00:32:04.410 --> 00:32:07.869 to be considered for you know budgeting for a 00:32:07.869 --> 00:32:11.390 career shift Budgeting for the financial burden 00:32:11.390 --> 00:32:14.210 of college. Obviously, you know, that's a conversation 00:32:14.210 --> 00:32:18.089 that we had to have You know, here's what you 00:32:18.089 --> 00:32:20.809 can expect from me, you know, here's what you 00:32:20.809 --> 00:32:24.390 can expect from dad You know, we had that conversation 00:32:24.390 --> 00:32:27.009 and then here's what that looks like for you 00:32:27.009 --> 00:32:32.410 and then you know with my daughter turning 18. 00:32:33.420 --> 00:32:35.740 That's another conversation. I just had to fill 00:32:35.740 --> 00:32:38.440 out paperwork to, you know, still have access 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:42.180 to her medical charts and, you know, your debt 00:32:42.180 --> 00:32:45.700 in college is now your debt. And, you know, that 00:32:45.700 --> 00:32:49.680 was a very big conversation when deciding on 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.500 where to go for school. You know, there's the 00:32:52.500 --> 00:32:54.720 pie in the sky. I want to go here. I want to 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.799 go there. And then the reality of what the price 00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.519 tag of college looks like. And, you know, if 00:33:02.089 --> 00:33:05.670 your child is choosing, you know, or not choosing, 00:33:05.930 --> 00:33:08.529 but is going to have to pay for some of that 00:33:08.529 --> 00:33:11.230 expense on their own. That is a very deep and 00:33:11.230 --> 00:33:15.890 big conversation to have. So, you know, I'm just 00:33:15.890 --> 00:33:19.950 going to stop rambling, I guess, again, and say, 00:33:20.069 --> 00:33:23.410 like, it's all personal to your own situation, 00:33:23.410 --> 00:33:27.730 but I hope that You know, some of my own story 00:33:27.730 --> 00:33:30.990 can help you in some way, shape or form, but 00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:35.690 I'd also love to hear like advice that you have 00:33:35.690 --> 00:33:38.910 and then something you're excited for or nervous 00:33:38.910 --> 00:33:42.549 about. And so please reach out, you know, on 00:33:42.549 --> 00:33:46.950 social media to share your thoughts about this 00:33:46.950 --> 00:33:53.099 episode. As we wrap up today's episode, I just 00:33:53.099 --> 00:33:56.400 want to remind you this transition, whether you're 00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:58.940 facing it now or preparing for it in the future, 00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.420 is not just about letting go. It's about stepping 00:34:02.420 --> 00:34:05.819 forward. It's about trusting the foundation you've 00:34:05.819 --> 00:34:09.480 built, embracing the unknown, and giving yourself 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:13.420 permission to grow alongside your child. Yes, 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.219 there will be moments of sadness, of uncertainty, 00:34:16.619 --> 00:34:19.420 of wondering what comes next. But there will 00:34:19.420 --> 00:34:23.420 also be moments of joy, discovery, of newfound 00:34:23.420 --> 00:34:26.360 freedom to create that life that excites you. 00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:29.340 So if you're on this journey with me, I'd love 00:34:29.340 --> 00:34:32.039 to hear from you. What's one thing you're looking 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.840 forward to in your next chapter? Or if you've 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.739 been through this transition already, help us! 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:41.280 What helped you the most? You can connect with 00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:45.159 me on social media at Instagram or Facebook or 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:48.420 dive deeper into these conversations inside my 00:34:48.420 --> 00:34:52.659 Live and Learn Patreon. In fact, on Patreon, 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.980 I'm going to have a special April empty nest 00:34:55.980 --> 00:34:59.920 collection. And so I have a few fun things planned, 00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:04.260 including my daughter has agreed to be on a podcast 00:35:04.260 --> 00:35:07.280 with me, even though she refuses to listen to 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:11.980 my podcasts usually. And also our guest Reagan 00:35:11.980 --> 00:35:16.820 Zimmerman Shrestha from Episode 22. is going 00:35:16.820 --> 00:35:20.280 to be back in a Patreon episode where she talks 00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.719 about her tips for applying for college based 00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:29.119 on what she knows as an MIT interviewer and also 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.679 she's going to explain her process and tips for 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:36.159 fleeing the nest. So I hope you join us in April. 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:40.059 Again, you can become a subscriber for just $5 00:35:40.059 --> 00:35:43.340 a month and get all of these exclusive episodes. 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.639 We're also going to be including a packing list 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:49.840 on there and answering more questions. Or you 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:54.099 can just purchase per episode or per collection 00:35:54.099 --> 00:35:58.380 by going to patreon .com slash live and learn. 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.340 As a quick reminder, starting next week, we're 00:36:01.340 --> 00:36:04.820 shifting to one episode a week, so each Monday. 00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.000 And I'll also have additional content on YouTube 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:12.639 and my Live and Learn Patreon. Lots of exciting 00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.699 things ahead, and I can't wait to share them 00:36:15.699 --> 00:36:19.199 with you. Until next time, remember, this isn't 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.619 the end of a chapter. It's the beginning of a 00:36:22.619 --> 00:36:26.280 new one. And like every lesson before, we'll 00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:29.849 figure it out as we go. Thank you for listening 00:36:29.849 --> 00:36:31.769 and we'll see you next time.