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On today's episode of Life's Next Lesson Plan Podcast, I'll be talking about how the

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pivotal AP capstone training I had, alongside reading the book A Curious Mind, changed my

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mindset and my approach to teaching forever.

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I'll cover some book highlights and talk you through the question formulation technique,

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or the QFT, that can be used in any situation with any age.

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It would even be fun to do at a social gathering.

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Wait, that might make me sound like a nerd.

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Anyway, hope you enjoy this episode!

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Thank you for joining me for another episode of Life's Next Lesson Plan.

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I'm Rachel and I started this podcast during my 29th and last year as a high school teacher.

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The goal of my work with this podcast as well as my live and learn patreon is to create

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a connection where we are all teachers.

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We all have lessons and stories to share that can help others.

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I'm so fortunate to be able to extend the four walls of my previous classroom to an

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unlimited audience where we can all learn from each other.

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And my guests are some of the most inspirational people with the best stories and lessons I

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know, which is why I want to share them with you.

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Their words are something everyone should hear.

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It is my hope that you are able to take away something from each episode to apply to your

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own life, whether that be a career search, a path to a more fulfilling life, or some

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new ideas on some current topics.

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Today I'm going to go back about eight or nine years to when our high school decided

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to add AP capstone classes to our course offerings.

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Attending these trainings changed the way I ran my classroom and I think the techniques

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offer a guide for a more hands-off teaching and parenting style that is meant to empower

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children and it can also empower adults if you use this at the workplace for that matter.

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There's a little bit of background on AP capstone for those of you who might not be familiar

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with it.

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It's kind of a newer advanced diploma program developed by the College Board who runs all

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the AP classes.

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It's equipped students with critical skills in research, analysis, evidence-based writing,

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and communication.

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The program consists of two courses, AP Seminar and AP Research, designed to complement other

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AP classes by focusing on interdisciplinary learning and inquiry-based projects.

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I first joined a group of teachers at Carleton College in Minnesota for my AP Seminar training

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before I taught that when the class grew in popularity.

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After teaching AP Seminar in a few years down the road when our AP Research teacher retired,

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then I took over AP Research.

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So AP Seminar is typically taken in the 10th or 11th grade.

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This is the foundational course that teaches students how to analyze issues from multiple

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perspectives, evaluate sources, and then develop arguments.

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There is a team component or group work component with this both for presenting the research

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and then writing research reports and defending the research at the end of the presentation.

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At the end of the year there is an exam with short answer questions and some essay writing.

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So I taught that for a year or two, geez, getting foggy now.

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And then as I said a few years later I attended AP Research training at Loyola University

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in Chicago when I expressed an interest and my principal chose me to teach the course.

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AP Research is a continuation of AP Seminar usually taken in the following year so at

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our school it was a senior course.

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The course focuses on designing and conducting a year long research project on a topic of

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the student's choice.

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Basically it's a 4 to 5,000 word paper that they work on throughout the year and then

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they deliver up to a 20 minute oral presentation to a panel of three judges and then they have

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to defend the research to the judges when they ask questions.

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If students pass AP Seminar and AP Research they can get what's called an AP Capstone

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diploma.

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So if they complete both courses with a score of three or higher on the corresponding exams

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and they take additional AP classes, I believe it's four, maybe five, I have to double check

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now, as well as AP Seminar and Research then they get this special designation, oh it's

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four, yeah just remember it's four, then they get the special designation on their diploma.

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What does that do for them?

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There are some colleges now that it's becoming more well known.

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I know just from keeping in touch with students of mine who've graduated and who had this

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distinction usually what happens is if they are interested in doing research as freshmen

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on the campus of the university that they go to, they're typically the only freshmen

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allowed to do that kind of work.

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Usually that's reserved for upperclassmen but because they have the background, I mean

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basically what they're doing looked nothing different than my master's thesis when I got

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They are contributing to the existing body of research.

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I have had students in that class get published like in professional journals so they are

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finding a gap in the existing research that they can add their research to and so they

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become part of that body of professional research.

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They can publish their work.

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So it is no different if you have done a master's thesis that is exactly what they're doing.

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In a high school setting they have the teacher, they have a faculty consultant in the area

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that they are studying in the building and then they have an expert advisor outside of

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the building, someone who is familiar with the research, either works in that area or

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can connect them with any resources that they would need.

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I know I've seen the benefits now firsthand and reasons schools might adapt it is obviously

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as I mentioned the students who do this who want to continue in an academic research setting

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in college sets them right up.

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Some of the projects are just amazing and some of them continue in related fields in

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college and it's just astonishing to me what they work on.

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The courses are also very customizable meaning students are able to choose topics that they're

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passionate about.

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So if for example I had a student who knew she wanted to study environmental science

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she researched how to implement solar panels at our school which we are now doing.

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She went on to study related topics in college so she was passionate about it.

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She sort of got a jump start I would say.

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It definitely looks good on a college application so colleges recognize this extra rigor and

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independent nature of these courses which it is like nothing else that I have taught

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for sure.

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And it definitely promotes that interdisciplinary learning so I was an English teacher teaching

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the course it was pretty rare if one of my students was actually doing an English research

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project I did have a few but more popular areas of study dealt with science psychology

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we had business we had art we had music so they are actually studying all of these different

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areas again that interest them and getting the credit in that area and working with adults.

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My job was to walk them through the research process the writing process the presentation

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and the defense I was not a content expert I learned a lot but I was not a college or

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a content expert I had to have statistics teachers come in to teach them that part of

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it that was not my expertise so AP capstone this type of classes ideal for students to

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enjoy research they enjoy writing presenting they definitely have curiosity which we're

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going to talk about today and an interest in challenging themselves to learn more about

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an area that they're passionate about AP capstone provides this framework for academic and

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personal growth and definitely sets them apart from other students and sort of fast tracks

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them like I said.

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So just some sample projects there are so many that I saw when I taught the course but

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one example is I had the student who studied the solar panel implementation I had a student

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who wanted to explore more affordable housing in Milwaukee and actually priced out and did

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plans for 3d printed houses in Milwaukee I had a student who was working with could you

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compare AI generated architecture so done by machine learning to actual architectural

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plans in a certain area in the United States a certain kind of infrastructure that was

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fascinating I had a student use machine learning to study if the traffic lights on our main

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road going into town near our school was efficient and how it could be made more efficient by

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studying it so he had a camera set up on the main road I had a student with muscles in

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a aquarium in her garage that was round one they didn't make it through the Wisconsin

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winter so there was around two but she was studying the impact of microplastic on indigenous

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muscles and then last the last year I taught it I had a student create an app to detect

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how many microplastics were in different brands of bottled water so you could take the app

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scan the bottle on the grocery store shelf and it would tell you the percentage of microplastics

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these are high school students and because we're on a trimester system these students

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were doing this from September until they presented their research at the end of February

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beginning of March whereas other schools the AP test isn't until May but our classes were

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already over by then so they were doing this in a very rapid pace so it is beyond amazing

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so I could go on forever about it but we're going to talk about curiosity today and we're

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going to talk about how using questioning I think can really be a game changer whether

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it be in a board room in a classroom this works for any place that you need to do idea

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generating so when I was getting ready to teach these classes the biggest component

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I had watched the previous teacher teach AP research I had taught AP seminar and what

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I knew students needed was kind of two things a high level of curiosity and a high level

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of grit if you're not interested or passionate about what you're studying and you're not

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going to stick with it when it gets difficult to be very difficult to persevere and succeed

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in those classes so when I was preparing to teach these classes I read a book I can't

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even remember how I stumbled across it now but it is one of my favorite favorite books

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it is called a curious mind the secret to a bigger life and it's by film producer Brian

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Grazer but it was actually written a co-written with Charles Fishman who is a journalist so

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Brian Grazer is an Oscar winning producer and the whole premise of the book is these

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curiosity conversations so I'll mention some of the movies that he is attributed to and

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you will recognize them the way most of these movies came about is from these curiosity

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conversations that he had so Grazer views curiosity as his most valuable trait it helps

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him problem solve it helps him like I said create movies and his premise related to the

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lesson I'm going to teach today is on how thoughtful questions can open doors and for

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decades he had this big list of people that he invited into his office to have these scheduled

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conversations and if they couldn't geographically make it to his office then obviously you could

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do that virtually or by phone so some of the people on his list are Steve Jobs he spoke

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to Barack Obama Jonas Salk Isaac Asimov I mean the list goes on of just the biggest

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names that you can imagine just to give you a couple of examples of like who he talked

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to and what some of the conversations contained his conversation with author and scientist

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Isaac Asimov he wanted to talk with him about creativity and the future of technology at

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the time that he had the conversation and so he really took away I think from that

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conversation just all of the things that are possible with technology and the power of

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speculative thinking he also spoke with everybody's you know knows Oprah the media mogul so he

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did have a conversation with her what he wanted to talk to her about was emotional intelligence

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and how she creates connections with her audiences and he came away from that conversation realizing

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that authenticity and storytelling are really the biggest parts of human connection in both

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art and business he spoke with Michael Jackson the pop icon before his death and they spoke

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about creativity and the drive for perfection and during that conversation Michael Jackson

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talked about his relentless pursuit of innovation and music and performance and Brian Grazer

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really related to this in his own drive to keep pushing the boundaries in his filmmaking

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he also spoke with humanitarian and royal icon princess Diana before her death and the

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focus of that conversation was on using her visibility for positive change she obviously

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had a hard time balancing her public persona with her personal struggles and he felt that

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by talking with her it gave him a deeper understanding of vulnerability and influence and this again

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all of these conversations played a part in the characters in his films and ideas for

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his films so Grazer's book highlights how these conversations enriched his understanding

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of life and human behavior and it's just a reminder of how important really good engaging

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questions can be and how they can really build a connection between people so during his

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Hollywood career Grazer used curiosity to sort of understand audience desires so that

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he could craft compelling stories and guide his team to create successful films and some

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of some of the films that he's known for are A Beautiful Mind and Apollo 13 he worked

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with Ron Howard on a lot of his films as well so together they were able to kind of overcome

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fears step outside their comfort zone and use curiosity to take some risks based on

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sort of all of this inspiration from other creative professionals so I think the core

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message of today is about curiosity how it's a powerful tool for growth connection and innovation

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by cultivating curiosity and seeking out new experiences we can live richer more meaningful

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lives.

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We're going to take a little break from our learning for a second for a new segment that

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I'm trying out called Ask the Teacher Anything so you can submit questions to me on social

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media at Life's Next Lesson Plan or else on our website there is a box for you to submit

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questions at our website life's next lesson plan dot com so I'll answer two of the questions

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that I have received today and the first one is if you miss the idea of teaching when you're

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done would you consider something like private tutoring or do you feel like that would bring

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the same issues as teaching in a classroom like dealing with parents etc.

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So it's a good question this is definitely something that I did while I was teaching

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and in fact one year when our school laid off 10 teachers the youngest teachers I was

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one of them at that time which coincided exactly with me having my daughter so this would have

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been almost 18 years ago now and so I did tutor I was the director of a local tutoring

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center for a while and worked mostly at night and stayed home with her I actually taught

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one class and then after school I would go in and work at the tutoring center and then

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I've also private tutor for the ACT and for college essay help a lot.

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There's really no issues that come with private tutoring I think the biggest thing if you

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do it while you're teaching is just you teach all day and then at night or on the weekends

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you're also teaching and it can be kind of draining so I don't really advertise my services

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anymore anytime I get a client it's always word of mouth you know who did your son use

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for the ACT or parents obviously will be talking about ACT tutoring and it'll come up and someone

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will give my name or number.

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I'm always open to it especially if it's a favor for somebody I love watching the difference

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that one-on-one tutoring can make you know I wish there were more opportunities for that

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in a traditional education system because I think kids grow so quickly through that so

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I'm not opposed to it but it's not something that I'm going to actively pursue if that

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makes sense so.

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Second question was what was the final straw to get you to make this decision?

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Great question I don't know if there was a final straw necessarily although my goodness

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I had a student this week first hour of the day where I was like is your sole purpose

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this entire hour to remind me that I made a good decision by doing this because oh I

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had no patients left by 10 a.m.

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So I would just say it's a there were there definitely was a period of years where I was

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like I don't know how much longer I can do this it's not even that I I don't enjoy the

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job or it's too incredibly stressful it's just how much it has changed and the expectations

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are different kids are so different I think all of the factors that you're hearing about

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in all of these books like the anxious generation and dopamine nation you know with their attention

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spans waning and their motivation and perseverance waning it's just becoming more difficult you

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feel like you have to put on a stand-up comedy routine some days I don't know if I'm I am

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always I've always been naturally introverted and I think teaching takes a lot out of me

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throughout a day because I just noticed I was growing less and less comfortable that

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comfortable but I guess having less and less energy or it was taking more and more out

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of me maybe and that just added with my commute increased getting ready to be an empty nester

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and I think I just kept reading you know books and talking with people and watching some of

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the people who I used to teach with who are now retired lose their health and quality

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of life and I just kept saying to myself what are you waiting for you know I went through

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a lot of struggles and conversations with people saying you're so close to being fully

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vested in your retirement this is the most foolish mistake you can make and it might

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be financially but I always have a plan and I'm obviously going to be very smart about

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what I do but I also know that tomorrow is not promised and I just felt that it was time

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the things that used to keep me going and bring me the most joy were starting to just

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become a chore less joy and more chore and just limited energy and limited patience so

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I really appreciate those questions so I could go on forever obviously about those so keep

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them coming maybe a little bit more lighthearted for some of them so that we can laugh as well

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so you can submit those again on social media at life's next lesson plan or on our website

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at life's next lesson plan dot com

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we have made it to the lesson part of today's podcast so this is the technique I've been

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raving about and have been teased about for how much I like it but it is as you will find

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so versatile literally can use it with any age in any situation so the question formulation

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technique is an instructional strategy designed to promote critical thinking and engagement

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I thought about editing editing out my dogs barking in that part right there but it just

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goes to show you everybody can get excited about the QFT so this is where we are going

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to talk about how this could work I will be attaching a guide for how to use this so if

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you're not able to take notes right now no problem I'll attach the doc in the show notes

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for you so how the QFT works is that first you set a focus so this is where you decide

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if you want to start with a word a topic a prompt a statement a piece of art a photograph

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math problem something that's relevant to whatever kind of brainstorming that you're

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doing you put this in front of your students or audience and then you could set a timer

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if you want for say five minutes and you just tell them to brainstorm as many questions

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as possible related to whatever your focus was the rules are don't stop to evaluate or

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answer the questions write down every question exactly as it is said and convert any statements

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into questions if needed when the timer goes off or whenever you decide they are wrapping

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up then you have them go through and identify which questions are open ended and which questions

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are close ended close ended questions usually are answered in a yes or no or just a short

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fact and you could if you wanted to if it's important to what you're doing next you could

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have them practice rephrasing the close ended questions to make them open ended then once

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you have a nice list of questions students or your audience will select their top two

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three five questions based on the relevance importance or curiosity the ones they would

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like to explore more or if you've set an objective for what you're doing the ones that seem to

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fit what you're doing the most so then they plan how to use their questions and again

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this is based on the outcome to be determined so if this is for a research project or this

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is for a discussion then perhaps however those questions align to what the lesson goal is

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those are the questions that the students would be pursuing or maybe you want to use

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those as discussion questions it's however you can tailor it to what you would like

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the process to look like so you can also add in a reflection if you want to just have them

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reflect on how questioning helped deepen their understanding of something or hearing other

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people's questions sparked ideas for them they hadn't thought of I know that happened

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for me we did this at the seminar training and I remember because we were grouped with

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people from other disciplines thinking wow I would have never thought of those questions

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but everybody is bringing their own knowledge and experience to the table which is part of

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what makes it so cool so doing this again encourages student-centered learning and active

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participation you can require that maybe everybody have a different color marker and

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that everybody must write in their color that must show up on the paper you know we do that

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a lot in the classroom to encourage everybody being involved that way also if they're shy

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they maybe wouldn't even have to say it out loud they could just write it on the paper

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this pushes their critical thinking and their inquiry skills promotes them to collaborate

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and can broaden discussion helps them connect to real-world applications or again as I mentioned

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open their eyes to other disciplines or ways of looking at things and then it provides

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a nice structure for exploring complex topics so in the guide that I'm going to attach in

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the show notes I'm actually going to add a specific example for an elementary school

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and then I'll talk about a couple more examples as well so I thought of grouping students

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together you know you could have maybe four or five students together and have an image

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of just some hands you know it can be a photo that you put up on your screen in the classroom

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it could be at everybody's table and you just set a timer for five minutes and have them

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generate as many questions as they can in that time there's no right or wrong answers

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they're not judging the questions they're not answering them so you might with that age

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group get questions like how are hands different what are hands used for what do my hands say

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about me so this could be used to introduce a lesson on creativity or an art project

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representing all the students hands in a collage or with a little bit older students that could

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set up a conversation about similarities and differences this could even be used as a neat

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opening day activity where we talk about how we're all we all have hands we're all similar

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but yet all of our hands are different and how that contributes to our classroom and

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the photo that I've included in the guide shows a way that you could actually use this

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to decorate your classroom at the beginning of the year I also mentioned in the episode

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how I used this with the word justice or injustice when I introduced the book the nickel boys

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with soft soft moors and just talking about the definition of justice is the legal system

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just has our country evolved to become a more just society and then we even revisited those

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questions at the end of the book when they were doing research on their own injustice and then

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lastly I could see applications for this as I've alluded to in corporate settings for brainstorming

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sessions just to get as many ideas on the table nothing is too outlandish right because sometimes

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some of the best ideas you just never know where they'll they come from so you could even show a

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video you could show an ad campaign and again you could go around and around from the different

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lenses perspectives the economics psychological social futuristic and it's just a really non

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threatening way to get ideas on the table and if you have a focus at the beginning so you have

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a word or you have an image or you have a video it gives a place to start the discussion from so

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that's why I love the Q&A it's very adaptable the possibilities are endless and it really

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supports collaboration and inquiry based learning I hope you gain some valuable insight and a new

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tool to use in a meeting or in a lesson or if nothing else picking up the book a curious mind

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will put you in the middle of some really fascinating conversations with inspiring people

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which of course is kind of the basis for all the guest episodes on this podcast obviously I just

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love that next week I'll have another guest here to teach us all about a concept that affects us

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and our longevity in the meantime keep sharing these important lessons and stories you can find the

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free resources from our episodes on our website at life's next lesson plan.com I do have more

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behind-the-scenes content including my countdown of my last 100 days with students in the classroom

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on my life's next lesson plan YouTube and scenes on Instagram and Facebook as always thank you so

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much for following and we'll see you next week.

