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Hello everyone and welcome back to Rebooked the Show. We talk about the men and women who
be slapping meat in the middle of the square circle and the stories they tell in the process.
I'm GB You got Matt, you have Jake and on today's episode we have a lot to break down
and I realize that I didn't send you guys a script for how we do the opening.
It doesn't matter. Jake, what do you think we have in store for us today?
I think we're going to talk about a little TNA renaissance that happened this weekend.
I like that. Matt, what about you? What do you think we're going to talk about today?
I just have a hunch that maybe we're going to give our thoughts on some overs, some unders,
on the AEW Championship storylines going on right now.
Oh yeah, okay. You know what, I actually, I got to give you guys credit. You definitely looked at the script
and I apologize. No, you told us what to say. Damn close.
That is true. I did tell you guys what to say as well and I sometimes forget that I'm surrounded by professionals.
So you know, guys, you're just so good. This has been a wild week, just obviously in the world,
but also in our little world of wrestling because we've had so many shows go on with
whether it's TNA, whether it's AEW, WWE and even though there's our Wednesday show,
and we typically talk about AEW on our Wednesday show, we're going to mix it up because something pretty big
just happened over the weekend and that is of course TNA genesis.
We happen to have an individual who was there in person, who could give us his in-person account
of how it was and how amazing an experience it could, it seemed to be because, Matt, you guys had a packed house?
Dude, we knew it was going to be pretty damn full and then we found out as the show was going on,
we were sold out, which was cool because I walked in there and I remember doing a New Japan strong
TV taping there in like 2021 with 400 people in that big ass building and we were there,
packed to the gills, Curtis Caldwell Center in Dallas, Texas, not to get a little bit...
We outdrew AEW slash Ring of Honor who did a paper view there in recent months.
Josh saying, that's the one part where my loyalties are going to come out, but no, legitimately it was a really good show
that felt like, I felt like our stories were kind of very short going into it, either just kind of straight up like,
oh, we're two baby faces, this will be a good match or things that were put together in like two weeks from our TV
and that was just some scheduling stuff so it didn't feel super, super narratively heavy coming in with a couple of exceptions,
but coming out of this between some of the match results, between some of the things that happened in those matches,
as well as, I mean, this is the big kind of bombshell multi-year partnership officially, you know, we did it last year,
but it's like, it is in ink, it is official, this is going down regularly between WWE in particular NXT and TNA.
It just had a lot of buzz and there's a lot more coming out of what was a really, really good event.
Yeah, it felt like it was a massive turning point for TNA, which is very much needed.
I do not believe in the idiotic tribalism, which is why we invented this show to begin with, because it's stupid
and unfortunately in our capitalistic society, that's always tribalist.
Yeah, I know right.
We're going to be tribalistic about anti-tribalism.
That's right, I'd rather be on that side, I'd rather be on that side.
No, but seriously, like because of the way that like our, unfortunately, you have to get philosophical here,
like fucking, you know, capitalist society kind of always says there has to be a winner and a loser.
We've adopted this belief that there can only be one, but that is simply not true.
It actually, it's a net negative for professional wrestling as we already witnessed.
It was a net negative for professional wrestling when your only viable option was just WWE.
It is not a hit on WWE, it's just competition breeds more success.
And we, Jake, saw that with TNA this weekend, but we also saw it in particular with a man who I'm so glad I got to introduce you to him.
I believe a TNA rebellion when we went to Vegas a year ago, and that is Joe Hendry, as you see in the lower third, is finally TNA World Heavyweight Champion.
Holy shit, Jake, it took forever.
We never stopped believing.
We never, we never stopped believing.
Yeah, what a, what a huge moment for Joe.
What a huge, I mean, like the response online has been tremendous.
I mean, look at him there in the crowd.
You ever seen him? You ever seen a grown man so happy as he is right there in that photo?
It's incredible.
And well earned, you know, he's very much been like a pull yourself up by the bootstraps type wrestler, you know, just finding what is, what is his place?
What is his gimmick?
What is his niche?
And just, and just going for it.
Full bore balls the wall, you know, living his gimmick, so to speak.
And it's paid off like he's got the love of the fans.
He's got the, the, the biggest prize in the company.
And like you said, I think, I think that this is the dare say Genesis of some great things to come for not only Joseph Hendry, but for total nonstop action wrestling as well.
Yeah, no, very true.
The name is very appropriate, you know, for the overall, I guess, direction of TNA is going to be.
Because a lot of other things happen on this show as well.
Right, Matt, that you were, you know, privy to because you were front and center watching it live.
How was it calling Santana versus Josh Alexander?
Because that looked like that looked fucking crazy.
I mean, it's an I quit match. It's always a bit chaotic, obviously a bit violent, a bit vicious, intense, and especially with those two athletes who define those terms, those two characters who define what I love.
We don't want to talk about storytelling.
We talk, we usually talk about overarching storylines.
But what I love in this match, too, was storytelling in the ring and people don't, there's so many people who don't understand that term who use it for sure.
All the time.
Oh, he did this.
That's great storytelling because he sold his back there and it's like, Jesus, good God.
No, telling a story, doing things for a reason, taking you on a ride in the match.
And a great example of this was this matchup at the beginning. You had Josh Alexander, one of the best technically sound competitors again as a character technically sound, you know, master Matt wrestler, all extraordinary Santana.
They really played into like, he's a guy from New York.
He's a guy.
He's a guy from the streets.
He's scrappy.
He wants to fight, especially in an I quit match.
Yeah.
You saw Josh Alexander staying in the ring every time Santana and try to take the fight out and get nasty.
Alexander got back into the ring.
Nope.
I'm going to break you down wrestling with wrestling.
Yeah.
And of course, as it always does, it blew up from there and they both ended up kind of taking it to the next level.
But little things like that I love to see as opposed to just like, Oh, it's an I quit match.
Okay, let's just swing and chairs at each other.
Yeah.
And played into their characters. It played into the story they had leading up to this, which was that Santana, you you're not ready to be the guy here in this.
You're not ready to be the standard, the face of a company like CNA.
That's the kind of thing I'm all about because of what I bring to the table.
And it was it was, it was pretty awesome.
And including the frickin.
And then he took it to literally a little bit.
I quit match a little too literally.
It really got to him.
So is Josh Alexander actually done with TNA wrestling?
We'll have to find out.
And as we said on commentary, it will be addressed this Thursday.
You know, you're seeing this on Wednesday, the next tomorrow night, our first live at TNA impact in like in the arena matches in over eight years.
Wow.
Live on Thursday.
Santina Morella.
That story is supposed to be addressed because you can't just do that.
Contracts are in place.
That's right.
Again, a lot of the people he thinks he is CM Punk.
And you can just walk out on a company.
What is he?
What?
That's just a deep cut there.
Well done.
No, but that is that is a very notable thing to point out there folks.
TNA is going to be live for the first time in years on Thursday.
So we're going to get to see and honestly, this is coming up probably at the best time.
So don't fuck up Tom.
Yes.
Wow.
I know what you should be talking to about that.
Wow.
I expect you to.
Tom's the one who's supposed to hold it together.
He's supposed to be the professional best.
Yes.
He's the conductor of the train.
He's supposed to be the best of us.
Getting off the rest.
Yes.
Exactly.
There were a lot of notable results from that show as we had talked about before with
Joe Henry winning the title and Santana getting his.
Henry.
Not Henry.
I hate the word my bad.
I hate the letter.
So many people do it.
I hate the letter.
You're not alone.
And then we also had the TNA World Champions, Hardy Boys.
You remember those guys.
You know those legends.
They happened to be defending their title against a couple other young legends in the
U.S.
So that was a great matchup that saw FRAXIUM from NXT come out.
FRAXIUM.
Nathan Frazier.
I don't know why I want to say Joe Frazier.
Nathan Frazier.
That's right.
FRAXIUM.
So that was a pretty cool moment there.
A championship matchup.
Masha Slamovich properly and definitively defends her title against Rosemary in that
Clockwork Orange.
Clockwork Orange, excuse me, match was wild and then comes out Corrigade from NXT.
So we got our next opponent for Masha.
You think, do you think Matt that we're going to see an NXT wrestler?
Hold the knockouts championship eventually?
I feel like or vice versa.
That is one of we had that a couple times last year, especially with Jordan Grayson.
Rascals too.
Rascals, by the way, as we pointed out, technically are owed.
They won a number one contendership match back in September.
Then some shenanigans, Wesley and injuries and stuff happened and they went on, but they
never got their matchup, which I think is why this Thursday is happening in addition to
everything that happened at Genesis.
So it could happen as early as this Thursday because that is an NXT Tag Team Championship
matchup between Fraxium and the Rascals.
But to answer your question, I feel like with this partnership in place, again, those now
that it's official, like this is not just something we're trying out.
I think both companies are now more willing to, again, from a storyline perspective, write
those stories in because they know they can capitalize on it.
It's not a handshake.
Maybe we'll see you next month thing.
We have a relationship in place.
So I think it's going to happen, whether which way it goes.
I don't know which title, but I feel like at some point, it may be this year, maybe next year,
it's going to happen.
I'm what I'm hoping is that we can finally do a proper invasion angle.
Oh, that's what I would at least I would love to do.
At least people have taught like a world's collide event.
Yeah, I'm like survivor series style of like this person versus this person, these teams versus
these teams, this match title for this.
I'm going to tell you exactly what I want.
Exactly what I want is a night where we keep score where we do matches and
at the end of it, we keep score and then Shawn Michaels can come out and gloat and then I don't know
Santino can come out and gloat and someone can do their thing.
I think that would be so cool because I just I miss that kind of stuff.
You know, like it was kind of OK when they did it with Smackdown and Raw, but you know, it always felt kind of fraudulent
because it was like internal company stuff.
But with this, you can actually like with NXT, especially you can really go nuts because I think will really
helps this relationship is that a lot of those NXT wrestlers that are continuing to like develop and grow their
brands and grow themselves even more and more within NXT.
Like having that experience to go and wrestle in a TNA ring is very different, right?
It's such a unique experience.
So they can go there and, you know, take a couple L's, you know, because it's it's fine, right?
I want to see TNA wrestlers though, go to NXT.
I want to see a TNA wrestler hold NXT gold.
That's what I want.
This Thursday, it happens.
If this Thursday, it happens, it'll be sick.
But I actually while we while we are on the subject, let's do a little mini wager.
And let's say what is more likely to happen in NXT wrestler holds TNA gold first or a TNA wrestler holds NXT gold first?
I'll say in if this were the previous regime, it would def to me, it would definitely be NXT holds a TNA title first.
Okay.
But I don't know now, because now it kind of now that now that it's like it and like you said, man, it's not just a handshake
and how you doing?
You guys want to do something fun, but now it's like a but now it's a partnership.
Yeah.
I think we see TNA hold gold hold NXT gold before we see NXT hold it.
Okay.
So Jake is saying TNA holds NXT gold first.
Matt, I have a feeling I got it.
I was I could get all like, well, if you call it down the middle, I mean, I truly I do think it's a 5050 thing.
I think it's whatever story is going to fit whatever character is going to ultimately come down how that story is written like all good championship.
But I got a poll for the home team.
Got a poll for the home team.
All right.
I think, you know, I'm going to go against it just to see what happens.
I think NXT will hold TNA and NXT wrestler will hold TNA gold first.
Let us know.
I will say between you two loser shades their head.
Sure.
I'm done with that.
Although I would want the best stories though in wrestling.
I must sometimes because I think you could make a really great story with especially if you have a heel.
NXT wrestler.
Take a TNA title because TNA I think is still probably even if it's subconsciously a little bit seen as like the underdog a little bit like we are the smaller company any which way you throw it.
So like the idea of you to heal NXT wrestler.
Take a title and have a nice well developed story about reclaiming that you know championship home bringing it home and have that happen at a big moment later in the year always just makes for such good chase.
So that's why I think it's always a good story for such good chasing that and trying to restore the you know the honor to it or whatever it is sort of thing.
That's always a really good story.
I could think of the perfect person to do that as well.
Ethan Page.
He could be amazing at that.
TNA wrestler TNA wrestler and then he left and then he goes WWE becomes NXT champion loses it in an embarrassing fashion tries to go back to where oh man the story kind of writes itself.
I just want to see it kind of like.
I mean this this has the feel of like private school versus public school.
You know what I mean like yeah yeah yeah the preppy private school kids who have their own fancy gym that they can practice in their own whatever think they're big shit have mommy and daddy help them.
And then here comes the private school kids who's ready to ready for the opportunity to fuck some shit up.
Oh man I think it'll be a lot of fun I'm excited to be so to clarify because obviously we were talking about this being the AEW show but.
This is our Wednesday show where we're going to talk about you know AEW and whatever else we can fit in there same thing with the WWE show.
We'll go ahead and shift gears AEW here but if you do want us to continue to keep the conversation going about TNA please let us know in the comments down below we'd love to continue talking about TNA because we literally have Matt here with us and kind of feels like a cheat code.
So we want to take advantage of it in any case so let's move on to our next one because we have been covering the story for the last few weeks now it is by far AEW's best storyline it is Tony Storm and Mariah May we have officially made it happen this match will go down at Australia at AEW Dynamite Grand Slam.
Now there's a lot of debate about you know whether or not that is too soon or not but I we have our theories and Jake one of them in particular was this whole Tony doesn't remember what Mariah did to her and Mariah really wants Tony to remember it.
It feels like we're going that way right.
A little bit I mean I think I think tonight on dynamite we're going to get a lot of answers about this when they have their face to face.
But yeah, it really does kind of feel that way I'm I'm very interested to see how this all works out it reminds me of a I mean to go back to TNA a little bit there was a there was a storyline for a while.
Where do you remember where a BIS disappeared and he became Joseph Park.
Yeah.
And but he would turn back into a BIS if he saw blood.
It's a trigger yeah yeah he was tricky became a BIS again if he saw his own blood.
I'm wondering if we see something kind of like Tony.
Yeah I don't have to be right.
There's got to be some sort of trigger some sort of something that Mariah says or that does that boom makes her flip out and and you know makes Tony attack Mariah.
The shoe and then she snaps it yeah.
The shoe the 100% that's exactly what it is.
Dude she's going to hit her with a shoe Tony's going to freak out she's going to beat the shit out of Mariah and then she's going to snap out of it with the shoe in her hand and like what did I just do or or I guess would be awesome.
Remind me so how many weeks do we have to grand slam.
I think three or is it two.
Let me see dynamite grand slam.
Maybe four.
Let me find the Australia one.
We have a little bit of time.
We don't have February 15 February 15.
Okay.
So we have about three weeks three weeks.
So we have a little bit of time.
So like I think we're going to get some I'm very excited to get some answers because I really think though I don't think it's going to pop off tonight.
No.
I think we're going to we're going to get some nice.
Yeah, I would expect Mariah may is going to come out of tonight being confused.
Like that is going to be I think that is going to be the no but I just think the overall vibe of the segment is going to be like what the hell what is going on here like why why is this happening.
That's going to be I think Mariah's vibe because what do you think what do you think is going to happen.
I just I think because again all the vignettes and everything like that everybody's kind of had this like oh shucks are like what Tony we know before they can correct her she you know she walks off like everybody's kind of I think Mariah is even that totally with Tony Shavani.
Yeah Mariah is she is going to be.
She knows she's like fine I'll take this at fan I think she's going to take advantage of that and be like all like some like four little coming here little rookie and I still think you could have an.
Assemblance of the idea that I wanted in long form of like taking under the wing of just like hey this is your first like again just pandering like this is your first time up at bat for the big let me help you a little bit before we get to that match and here's my idea I'm wondering if this would be more interesting
instead of hitting Tony with the shoe like the week before Grand Slam she's she's in the company of Mariah Mariah hit someone else with the shoe and it.
Is that what it all comes flooding back and then on that last collision or dynamite beforehand know it would be dynamite she just that's where it explodes and sets up for really exciting.
Night at Grand Sam that would be cool that would actually be really cool I would be I think that there are as we've mentioned a lot of times there's so many directions of this story can go in but what's great is that there really isn't like a wrong
direction you know like because even if you like rehash it and you redo the same thing just as they did just in a more shorter truncated time because you want to get Tony the title sooner then I'm not even mad about that I don't think it's a good idea because I really do believe that if Mariah may
wins that will lead to something even bigger down the line or at least that's what I would hope for but it's just the story is just cool it's just fun it's good it's good to see it especially considering that you know AWS women's
vision oftentimes gets a lot of criticism and I think that this is one of those things that just stands above any criticism because it's just so good. Thank you I think you could even have the moment of Tony like coming to or whatever I think she could
lose her match in Australia and then come back out the next dynamite demanding a rematch and she's like a rematch why do you why do you think you should do why do you deserve a rematch and she's like well you beat that Tony storm you still owe a rematch to
Tony storm and then she rips open a button and everything goes black and white and white and she pulls up a thing and she's got her hair all curled up. Oh dude I mean if there is a wrestler who would do it it would be her.
And takes off his stuff and it's Luther. Oh that would be good. The ultimate reveal of everything falling apart around her. I would be super fine. I love that. You know there were some other things that happened across you know AWS you had Christopher
Daniels last match. We don't have to touch too much on it because we did discuss this previously about how this really came out of nowhere but now it makes sense that it's his last match so it does feel like it doesn't make it worse.
But the match was awesome. I encourage everyone to go out and watch it. It was actually it was Christopher Daniels. I mean I know he doesn't want to do that again but man he could still go. So that was really cool to see him throw down in a really gruesome bloody I quit
match but you know I'm glad we're talking about this for a brief moment then we'll move on to the to over under but it talks to a wider I think issue that we were discussing that we've discussed a lot of times with AWS where
there the storylines they're not utilizing these 10 pole moments effectively and and instead they're kind of 0 to 60 in a car. Yeah storyline. Yeah yeah yeah and I think that is that is the the issue right it's that
Matt to your point you have a situation where throughout the last few weeks you know Christopher Daniels was coming out telling a hangman page like hey you know you you got to be the guy to step up you got to be the one to do it and then
you know things start to get a little crazy but then I don't know where he like attacks him and then I know where we're in a Texas death match so that was the pipeline for how this came to be. Is it is that like how it is is that like a
pro wrestling thing where like you know I guess I'm trying to figure out like how do you get Christopher Daniels his last match right like what yeah it can be like there are sometimes and this is something that people like not everything can be ideal
like sometimes it's like there are extenuating circumstances like in all of life like this is not a speculation even this is totally just utterly made up but like real life Christopher Daniels might be like hey I need to stop
wrestling ever like I have a surgery I have to get and I have to get it in like three weeks like on my back and then I will be done forever so if we're going to do something we have to do it like now like that does happen and if there or something equally as
like puts a line in the sand behind the scenes those kind of things do happen but if that's not on the table things like that that are not on the table especially with it we didn't know at first but it like and I don't think it was called a quote
retirement match but we kind of have learned that it is de facto like his last match yeah man just give me a couple of weeks of maybe hang on goading him into the match like yeah come on fine then I'm going to beat the fallen angel and he's like no no no no I'm done I'm done yeah yeah yeah
and he beat some down forcing him to answer it and give it to me on on a pay per view give me on grand slam you know what I mean something like that yeah that's actually the point that's an excellent point I think it also boils down to like you know a little bit of the
writing right and and as we're seeing with the death writer storyline right now where it really we've been asking for weeks what is the direction what was the purpose what are they doing this for and now here we are weeks later what was the purpose what was
what is the point what are they doing this for and we've gotten like you know the the promo glimpses from John Moxley where he's like it's you know I'd someone's got to step up blah blah blah right but it's like the words aren't really necessarily fitting where things are
actually is a great segue takes us to a whole new game I should have made a graphic for it but you're just going to have to deal with other graphic for right now I like to call this one over and under going over going under it's a very easy thing
we're going to point out you know some of the show some of the storylines going on in a W surrounding the championships right now and then we're going to discuss whether or not we think the storyline is going over or the story line is actually going a bit under
okay and this is just an overall thing like where the belt is right now so we got some fancy graphics and all that stuff you know it's just an opportunity for me to make graphics that's that's me I realize that creating this podcast was just me living out my graphic design dreams
that's really what this graphic design is your passion it really is it really is alright fellas so let's go ahead and start this off with RT NT champion Daniel Garcia currently he is crossing past the undisputed kingdom and him and him and Daddy Magic are kind of getting goaded maybe into joining a group I don't know
and there is no clear like pay per view next opponent for him right how do we feel about Daniel Garcia is TNT run currently
could be better I like him as champion like he's the type of guy I want to hold that belt he's one of these guys he's on the up and up he's a young guy he's really talented and I want to see more from him so like I like him with the title it just seems a little middling right now you know to be like we've seen some setup with with Shane Taylor and his group but I think we've talked about it before like it just feels like a quick TV feud almost like
it's for mox was I think it'll happen in the next week or two and it's not going to be a pay per view match it's not going to be a grand slam match so it does feel like I don't know what his overall direction with the TNT title is I there's no clear like here's his next big threat yeah
I'm outside of like I said maybe that TV match but like okay and yeah the vibe check is is weak right now but I like him so like I do my I would overall are we do are we making it do we want how do we want to do this we want to come together and consensus
or do we want to have individuals that my vote is not deep but it's it's going a little under it's going a little under okay so it's not failing it's not dropping the bottom it's a little under and you know what helps us three of us here so what what the ties being broken so Jake how do you feel about
Daniel Garcia is current run right now is champ I kind of feel the same as Matt honestly I feel like it's something where we're we're trying to find the way and we just haven't quite found it yet it seemed like we were going to I don't know where but it seemed like we were going to certain
direction more with that stuff with the death riders but I agree with Matt it's I'm gonna say under by but not by much if this can still be turned into something good yeah and memorable which which he deserves for sure yeah
but right now it's just kind of falling flat and flat and wrestling is under so okay there you go so two out of three don't matter what I say it's going to be under no matter what but but but but I do want to point out though that I feel like we are on the precipice of something
pretty awesome with Daniel Garcia he has had some really great moments 2024 was a big year for him obviously winning the TNC championship over Jack Perry but you know like the Continental Classic he got a win over Okada like oh no he tied with Okada he had a he had a big win in the
Continental Classic I was like kissing your sister that's okay Jake you were not wrong I don't I don't care for ties I don't care for ties is that spoken from experience
I mean you know there's a certain amount of leeway you're given when you are from the state I'm from not me particularly not but in any case so I would like to see this story potentially go with our dear friends the hurt syndicate I think that there is a potential there where hurt syndicate can get involved how does that look don't know right now but we will find out
let's go to next one we have Mercedes money now her current stories as she's going through her belt collector arc a lot Kenny Omega when he did that during the pandemic similar to Daniel Garcia as far as pay per view opponents go there is no clear opponent at the moment for her so she's
kind of just like fluttering about and that's because she just defeated me to share kawa at wrestle dynasty to obtain a belt number four which was the rev pro championship belt that would make her a four time champion Jake since Mercedes monies arrival in a W we've been treated to some excellent matches do you feel like we've been treated though to the best that she has to offer right now with this current run
nope okay all right that's it so you just going going under I don't like it's like all that like the I don't care about the title collector that like it's I I just I just don't
I mean Kenny Omega did it it was it was at least with like you know it was with with TNA and it was with New Japan and it was I mean I just I just I just don't care I and
I wish I did but this this belt collector thing like it just doesn't it just doesn't mean anything to me and and like you said no clear opponent right now she doesn't we don't even she doesn't know who she's going to defend the TBS title against why are we giving her
more titles that she has no clear opponent for yeah that she's probably not going to defend on the show hmm yeah I would imagine is the other part of that too so I to me under I I mean my vote for this is under it just it just seems like we're just doing shit
yeah with Mercedes so that it like seems like she has a lot going on but I just feel like we've never had a clear plan for Mercedes was since she came in the front door but that is very after after Willow Willow seemed like there was some structure to it that whole story that they had together kind of friends
and then turning and then after that to your point Jake yeah just feels like stuff and we're just we just booked but Camille added a nice little flavor but then she got hurt and quit or whatever and so you kind of lost that aspect to it so yeah I feel like it's
I feel like it's under two at the moment yeah yeah I'm you know it is an under we're just going to go ahead and call it what it is it's an under a sound effect we do need it we do need a sound effect but you know I the price is right boom boom boom boom
I will say though that I know I messed that one up but I will say that I feel like the sad reality of this whole thing is that she has been putting on some of the best matches of her career but as we have talked about time and time again
on this show it's hard to say hey I am the best wrestler ever when people aren't invested all the time in the matches that you're doing and I think what's helping her is the fact that the matches are so good that people are like no they're like she's genuinely incredible
also giving her a lot of that flak but at the same time it's like not allowing her to be able to hit that next level the way that I think she can also and not that this is it luckily she does have a character beyond this so this is more of an aside and
other things yeah but to quote William Regal we already have the best wrestler in the world you know that right at the time when he said it we were talking about Daniel Bryan Bryan Danielson yeah but like we've already got and if you're an A.W. you've got four five six people who use that as their gimmick yeah that's that's Kenny's gimmick that's that was that was
Bryan's gimmick that was like everybody was there to be the best the best wrestler in the world yeah Max Caster is trying to use that as a whole impetus for his character change now yeah and it's like you just got to have more than saying I'm the best wrestler alive and I'm the best wrestler in the world
I'm the best I'm the best cool we have 18 people who say that to yeah yeah luckily Mercedes generally does and I would love to see her more play keep playing into her the CEO money kind of thing we know she's really good yeah so like but just get right be good stories with those characters
I don't know you're 100% right I just don't want to see the Super Bowl champions go play like the Florida State high school champions like I did you know what I mean like I don't necessarily care that they won that they beat that team yeah it felt different when Kenny was doing it
because Kenny was good was I mean he had oh god who was that he took the the the tna or it was a rich one rich one rich one rich one and that was incredible that was an incredible match it was really really good also a great story to because I'll never free when he won
how like story how like depressed and how angry everyone was when like Kenny won oh dude was a crazy moment yeah and we just don't we just don't have the just feels like it feels like reheating the problem is is that last week's meal it's mid card titles that's the issue is that it's
it's for it's like the Rev pro championship which is you know the other that's their women's world championship and that one's fine Japan the new Japan strong women's championship is kind of like but they also now they do have the IWGP women's
championship which is I think a little bit more of a women's world title so yeah the strong title is kind of but if they lower on the it's weird if they can if they I think they can turn it around by just having someone point out like hey Mercedes it's cool that you have these titles and all but you're
not even the best woman in your own company yeah that would be why don't you go collect that title yeah that's a that's a tough slope though because then you can say that for any title that's not a world title and yeah yeah you can
I think in particularly collecting I mean because you're talking about a person who's going around calling herself the CEO okay so like she's like I think in this instance and that particular gimmick I actually like that she's a senior vice president at best right
pretty much pretty much awaiting her promotion that will never come because Mariah may holds the championship and I cannot see a world that Mariah may loses that belt to Mercedes Monet I just I mean not right now just especially with Tony storm
moving forward though with another championship that is another one that's rough because you haven't seen it much and it's canos gate to cash with the international championship this belt used to be featured on TV every single mother flip and weak emphasis on the flipping because of will
aspirate but instead it has gone into the hands of Tecashia and it's kind of just stayed there he yes he comes off every time he shows up as a threat as a heavy hitter you know he had a great match with Hobbs that you know was exciting but it was a very much
you know just randomly built not randomly because there was a connection there but they didn't have enough time to properly like dive into that story
and really only is ever seen when there are wild group attacks with the Don Callis family and and then he shows up and he's usually like the the X factor that like you know tips the odds in their favor or something like that but in a in a theme that I realize as I was typing out all of these no clear opponent for the title why
so I disagree with that a little bit like everything you said is right and I do think I don't want to sound like I'm bagging up but like I think it's an under for me but this is the under that has the mode that is right at the point of turn
okay because I think his clear next big opponent nothing officially kind of in line on paper announced anything yet as Jake brings his cat under the the baby hello Dale oh we got it good boy
I think clearly in my brain this is going to Kenny and Kenosuke and I think Kenny as part of his kind of comeback tour is going to win the international title and I think that could raise that title back into the prominence so I think that's where we're going
whether that's something like a grand slam or if we're going to wait to like revolution I think that's the track for that so I think this one right now is kind of under but I think it's right there about to take a turn okay all right I like that assessment there
Jake you're even maybe if just to be different I will say I will vote over because I think that's happening and I think we're right about to see it okay all right I like that joy is making me excited I won't lie coming into this I was an under but your
like excitement for this because I you're right I'm looking at Kenny and will first without realizing that the we're going to do it's going to be faction this has to lead that way we're going to get to that yeah this has to lead that way so I think this will be a
an over for me as well but Jake anything you want to add under under why is that under and understandably under the for the exact same reason as the other two and you pointed it out and I was going to point it out as well if it says no clear opponent for the title then you don't know what the hell you're doing
you just don't have any kind of plan now could but see this is kind of I think Matt feels a little bit the opposite about this one as he did the Daniel Garcia one and how like it's just a little over I'm giving you a little leeway but no I'm not until you have a clear picture I don't care
you know it is a very that is a very good point because it's like do you want to rate it based on where you think you can go or where currently is but you know it's a tomato game so it doesn't really matter
whatever we want for right now though just for the sake of you know because I agree I agree that this this if this goes to Kenny and revolution which by the way I'm 100% going to be there for because I'm off of work so I will 100% be going to that
it's an LA it's an LA yeah it's at a crypto arena I will probably $800 to get in the damn door I know I know that we'll have to look at the ticket prices but I'm going to give it an over just for now just for now we're going to give one and over we got to you know see how this plays out
but I was coming into this one as an under and Matt you made me a believer so I want to thank you for that I'm too stubborn to listen to Matt okay we need different voices but it's okay but it's okay because I think this one is going to be so clear where we're going right out of the game folks
because it is because you go out of the continental champion just won the continental classic under under and he defeated the collision this past Saturday clear who will be going to be here tomorrow wait a minute hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on
Well, make a gave Ocata right I forgot about that. What does that tell you though I forgot about that yeah yeah no because that happened and then we had like two three weeks of things and forgot about it and now it just feel like Kenny's going to go for the internet
Internet.
Oh, that was just listening at home.
Go ahead.
Show it under.
Go ahead, Jake.
Put it again for everyone to see.
I just need a I need a pad.
Like it's like it's a paddles.
I mean, we need paddles like we're auctioning.
We should go.
Yes, we should.
Yes.
All right.
I mean, that one's pretty straightforward.
We have been, I think, on rebooked and I listened to a few other wrestling podcasts,
but I would say that on this show, we go the hardest on the Continental Championship than
anyone else because it just it just should have.
They just shouldn't exist.
Like you still could have had a Cota win and given him a trophy.
You know what I mean?
Like a trophy would have been perfectly fine.
I've been to most of the continents and I just feel very strongly about how they should
be represented.
So, sure.
Yes.
I mean, as a Continental enjoyer, you just you just know how she should be represented.
Exactly.
All right.
Well, and then we have our next story here, which will be private party.
The young champions who might have met their match because they're going to be going up
against a hurt syndicate this Wednesday as they defend their tag titles.
And the question on the mind is, does the party finally come to an end?
How's this story been going?
I got to say, this story isn't over for me.
This isn't over.
I've enjoyed this because when the private party got the belts, it came off of a, you
know, a very impassioned like, hey, I want to, you know, like prove to everyone that
we could do this and we could finally be at the top of the mountain and we can succeed.
They do this.
They send the young bucks packing and then, you know, they don't get like necessarily great
matches.
But where the story is right now, though, with the hurts syndicate, I will give it an
over. I don't want them to lose the belts on Wednesday.
I have a feeling AWS is going to pull the trigger and just give the belts the hurts
syndicate, but I don't think they should.
I think there should be some kind of way that private party weasels out of that so that
we can get another match down the line.
But in any case, I'm going over only because of that because I like the fact that hurts
syndicate is in this storyline right now.
Who wants to share their thoughts?
Yeah, I can, I can kind of go on that page.
It's not a super enthusiastic over. But like you said, at least they're going in some kind
of story with a clear map.
Even if it's short lived, they're doing something.
Yeah.
So I it's not like a huge over, but it's an over for me, I think.
Yeah.
Given the state of some of the other titles, I think this is an over.
Jake, you feel similar or under over height?
What are your thoughts on private part?
Yeah, I mean, I think what's been, you know, they have learned, you know, it's a long way
to the top if you want to rock and roll.
Yeah.
And now they're learning that staying on top is even harder than getting there.
Yeah.
And that's a fun story.
That's an interesting story, especially from a team who like, you know, sometimes you
win and you feel like, oh, we got there.
Yeah.
It's it's it's over.
You know, it's like people who climb Everest.
You still got to get down that fucker.
That's true.
You got to get down and people die going down to, you know, so like getting getting to the
top is is is hardly all it is.
And now, you know, like you said, they're going up against hurt a family company.
And it's going to be, I think a pretty fun, but I'm giving it an over.
It's giving it an over.
I love it.
I yeah.
The reason why this gets a resounding over as well is because this is this was the best
storyline coming out of the the kind of crumbling of like AEW, right?
Like when the young bucks like left and all the shit was like happening each and every
week and like, you know, death Rydles, death Riders, excuse me, emerged and all these other,
you know, chaotic things were happening.
And throughout this story, they were always talking about, you know, the young talent
needing to step up and private party literally live the storyline out.
What I don't want them to do is just take the belt off of private party tonight because,
you know, they maybe feel like it makes more sense to get the belt onto Bobby and shot.
I feel like that would be a very less reactive.
Unless it was like there was a great way you did it.
But what are you going to say?
Great plan.
I don't mind, especially like a young hot babyface act or whatever, getting not squash,
but get as a character getting squashed down.
Yeah.
As long as we have a plan, like everyone loves to come back.
Yeah.
If there's a plan, they lose on Wednesday, but heaven have a nice something laid out
to like revolution over the next month, where they were there getting squashed and squashed,
but they're fighting against the hurt syndicate, fighting the numbers.
And then they win them back in a pretty triumphant moment at revolution.
That's cool.
Yeah.
And it's a short, it's not a suit.
It doesn't have to be a six month story.
That's like a month and a half.
That's a nice little story.
And it establishes them that they all they did it, but now they've proven that they can
continue to overcome adversity.
Now they're two time champs.
It doesn't always have to be like I win a title and I hold it for a year.
Yeah.
Very true.
Especially babyfaces got to face adversity.
So I wouldn't mind seeing them chase as long as they don't just ignore them like that.
Yeah.
I agree with that.
Jake, anything you want to add on that?
That's pretty much it, right?
Yeah.
I'm, I'm, this is one that I'm actually interested to see where it goes.
Yeah.
Same, same.
Now we're going to move past this one really fast because if we're being honest with ourselves
here, this doesn't require that much time.
The death writers, the trio's titles, I'm just going to go and flat out just say under
right out of the gate for all of us.
It has been an absolute blunder.
There is no, yeah, there's no story with the title.
There's no story.
There's nothing there.
It's, it's just, it's just a thing that they hold right now.
It seems like your, your pathway is going to be rated FTR, taken to titles.
You are seeing AEW really try to put re-emphasis on trios.
They're forming a lot of trios right now, especially on collision.
So you're seeing what they're doing.
But the problem is that we're currently stands right now with the death writers.
It's just not good.
And for that reason, I'm out.
So that unfortunately leads us to our last one, which we are not going to talk about
Mariah May because we covered it extensively.
And by the way, that's an over.
But it is, of course, our AEW world champion, John Moxley, the leader of the death writers
in a feud with rated FTR, and has said that he wanted someone to step up and forcibly
take the title away from him otherwise it stays hidden behind lock and key.
And that, and I like the locking key thing.
I think it's cool.
It's different.
I just feel like they lose it.
It's in the background way too much.
Like, I feel like it should, the belt should be so much more not visible, but like the,
the suitcase should be more visible.
You know, it should be like, like Moxley should have it or, and because Marina Shafir is like
doing a good job like making it seem like she's protecting her with her dear life, but
it's just, I don't know.
I like it.
I like it too.
And I think that's in a weird way.
I think that's kind of the point is that it's not, it's not a focal point.
Everything.
It's not until you take it, right?
And you all have spent too much time wanting to just covet the big shiny gold belt and
I'm here to show you.
So I can, I can respect that as much as I understand your point from like just a show
and like production branding, even like it can kind of, it can kind of hurt things, but
this one is like, this one's a reluctant under for me, not reluctant, but like a sad under
for me.
Cause like it has a lot right now.
There are a lot of prominent players in and around the scene.
Like, I mean, Adam Copeland, sorry, Co.
Is there again, clearly, I think we're getting there at some point, but an FTR is involved
with this, but my big issue is that I feel like we're going there, but in the meantime,
and the past several weeks, I feel like it's just the same thing over and over again.
There's a match.
Death Riders run in, there's a match death, which I think also hurt.
It does.
Some people talk about in our discord, which you should join.
I think it kind of hurts Mox's credo and when he constantly has his team interfering
and if they play it into that story of like Mox is cracking, like he constantly needs
people or needs us to, but they're not really even acknowledging that.
It's just like, we're a heel faction.
We're doing heel faction things.
Even though the bedrock of the faction was that these are we are the toughest fighting
is MFers on the roster and it just feels it's been repetitive.
So like I want, given the players involved, I want this to be it over, but it's an under
car.
Okay, Jake, what about for you?
This to me is one of those ones that it's, it's kind of like the, it's kind of like the
Daniel Garcia one to me of like, I kind of see a direction.
I see a direction they're wanting to go with it, but the execution has not been great.
And and and to Matt's point, the whole thing is that the death writers just keep coming
out and beating the shit out of them.
And it'd be one thing if like, if like Matt said that was established, just like, we're
going to keep this from everybody.
But like, yeah, it undercuts what the whole the whole point of what it feels like John
Moxley is trying to say is I want someone to step up and take the title from me.
But if the death writers do keep coming in and doing that, and I know people are going
to say, well, how's this any different than the bloodline or just just watch it.
It feels different.
It doesn't even like, I don't know.
And you can criticize the bloodline for being directionless at times.
Like there definitely were moments of the bloodline story was there.
I mean, you don't have a story for four years and it not be directionless here and there.
Exactly.
But this is like their only story that this is like they've only been doing this for less
than a year now.
Right.
So it shouldn't feel directionless already.
Yeah.
But it's honestly felt a little directionless from the beginning.
Yeah.
Like it just felt like this abstract concept and nothing.
I feel like nothing concrete has come from it.
It just feels like it feels like mocks and the death writers are just flicking these little
fleas off of their back and being like, ah, this is this is a, you know, yeah, this is
of no concern to me.
So you're going over under.
I'm still willing to give mocks and this storyline enough plastic bag to suffocate itself.
But I'm I'm I'm going under.
All right.
It's an under two out of three.
But also I was going to go under as well because right now it's just not serving the
the story.
It's not serving.
The greater good.
Yeah.
That being said, though, you know, that doesn't mean that the that it's always going to be
like this.
Right.
And I think what's going to be really fun is to maybe keep tabs of this.
Maybe we can week out.
We'll like keep tabs of like where things are going.
But for the most part, it does feel like AEW.
They isn't holding pattern.
They're in a holding pattern.
And I was hopeful that they wouldn't be in a holding pattern when they made the jump over
to Max and, you know, they were on their own streaming platform doing their own thing.
I was hoping that, you know, there would be a little bit more meat on the bone.
But thankfully it's not all doom and gloom because you got a lot of great story lines
over there.
And again, this isn't to say that like everything's rosy peachy everywhere else because every
story kind of goes in a different direction.
Right.
That's kind of the fun of it all.
So if this is something you guys are interested in and you want to see us do it for WWE, maybe
even do it for TNA, let us know.
We'd love to hear from you. You can join us on the Discord just like Matt said.
That of course brings us to our final segment of the day, which is our...
Rebooked 24 seven jump piano of the week.
Of course, that is the award that we give to the thing that brought us the most joy
this week in the world of professional wrestling and boy, oh boy, can we use some joy this
week.
So I have one ready to go if you guys need it.
But you could you could let me know up to you.
I got mine ready.
Yeah.
I got I got a I'm all right.
I'm all it over.
Let's do you got a mull it over.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I'll go first and I'll go first.
I got mull it over.
Oh my gosh.
I am going to give my Rebook 24 seven champion of the week nomination to a dear friend of
the pod rocket King who messaged on blue sky the other day and says, GB, Jake Matt, not
sure if this is a good sign or a bad sign.
But my like on your YouTube short today says that this freaking rocks and you can see that
the light counter is at 666.
Let's go.
I thought it was just really, really funny and rocket King is awesome.
He's always posted about pro wrestling on blue sky and just seems like an overall decent
decent person.
So thank you so much, rocket for that.
You are my nomination for Rebook 24 seven champion of the week.
Who wants to go next?
I'll go.
So mine is pretty straightforward.
I just throw it out to Jordan Grace.
I mean, she had her match at Genesis, which as far as I know, not trying to get to like
everything is fluid and everything like that.
But potentially probably her last TNA outing, at least for the time being, that's kind of
been a worst kept secret going.
But yeah, I mean, she has just carried TNA in general, but then let alone the knockouts
division for the past year and do all the stuff with the rumble last year and all the
stuff with NXT this past year and just showing up and showing out and just being a badass
and putting on great matches and just being a great representative of the company and
everything like that.
And went out.
If you didn't see Genesis, whatever you think a test of Lancer is absolutely okay.
But the two of them, when the bell rang kicked each other's asses and in an entertaining
way in a pro wrestling way, and it was it was a very good wrestling matchup and Jordan
is one of the best.
Nice.
Yeah, I know.
Jordan Grace is incredible.
And that that is that is a worthy worthy nominee for sure.
All right, I like that one.
Jake, who you got?
All right, here's mine.
Oh boy, requires us requires a little setup.
So I have recently kind of kind of gotten back into like trading cards because when
I was a kid, I was super into trading cards.
And I brought back like I found this stack of cards at my dad's house that has like a
ton of it turns out that this stack of cards may actually be worth a couple months rent.
Oh, so well, take those.
There was a big.
All right.
My bad.
There was a big card that was being introduced by my tops.
It's a one of one card for Paul Skeens, who was the NL rookie of the year this year, a
pitcher for the Pittsburgh Pirates.
And because it's one of one, it has this debut patch.
It's autographed.
The Pittsburgh Pirates made an offer that if anyone gave them that card, they would receive
two season tickets behind home plate for the next 30 years.
They would get a meet and greet with Paul Skeens, two Paul Skeens autographed jerseys,
a softball game for 30 people at PNC Park with coaching from Pirates alumni, a private
tour of Pirate City and the park and a pirate's game with Livy Dunn, his girlfriend in her
private suite courtesy of Livy Dunn.
And you want it?
And 11 year old found it yesterday here in Los Angeles.
So my way, my 24 seven champion of the week is this 11 year old boy who found this card
and I'm going to tell you this young man or young woman.
You have the Pirates organization by the balls.
No, well, they just all they inadvertently just gave it a value.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And then you have even more because of the demand, the demand from the organization
for it.
Hold on to that.
I mean, work them.
Mark.
That's yeah.
Rain them.
You drain them.
Rain them.
Tell them I'm in LA, I ain't getting on a plane just send a six figure check to my door.
I live across the fucking country.
What am I going to do with two home?
I'm not coming back and forth to go to games for the next four decades.
If I'm the parents of that kid, I'm like, you are paying for my child to go to any college
that they want in this country, in any place in the world right now.
Go for it.
Have fun because you know what?
Probably would cost less than what they would be willing to spend if some, you know, like
rich asshole with true greed, man, she gets hands on the outside of an 11 year old, you
know, I mean, what one can hold the parents think about the future?
That has been out there for like six months.
It was announced.
Paul Schien's was like, I want that card.
Holy crap.
The pirates were like, if you get him this car, we'll throw in all this shit.
That's an 11 year old found it here in LA.
Over the hell.
Yeah.
You know, I don't know who to give it to.
I'll give it to the 11 year old.
So I think I think I think you're not going to hear the other thing, kid.
It's not going to get any better from here.
No, it's really not.
So cherish this moment.
Cherish this lottery.
Yeah.
You just found that's better than the kid who won the in your househouse back in like
1994.
Oh my god.
So that's a throwback.
That's better than any sweepstakes we all could have won.
So yeah, I say or Nicholas winning the tag titles with yeah.
What a memory.
Oh man.
All right, folks.
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