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Come on, babe, why don't we paint the town? And

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all that jazz Rouge my knees and roll my stockings

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down And all that jazz Start the car, I know

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a whoopee spot Where the gin is cold and the

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piano's hot The noisy hall where there's a nightly

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brawl And all That jazz. And all that jazz. Whoopee.

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And all that jazz. Dance break. Welcome to a

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bit niche. We're back. at the Golden Bone. Welcome

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to the Golden Bone, baby. It's our very own jazz

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club. See our content on Tickety -Tock. Tickety

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-Tock and the Instagram. Maybe. Instagram. I'm

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Laurel. And I'm Abby. And this is a bit niche.

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And all that jazz. And all that jazz good opening

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number for us tame we gave them a little bit

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but we're gonna leave them wanting more um i

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know that's what everyone's thinking right now

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it's been a minute since we opened with like

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a true music number has it didn't we kind of

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do that last they've been screaming for more

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is what i've heard right is there like oh what

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are you guys gonna sing again Yeah, and people

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love this movie we're doing. It's a classic.

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They know the words unlike our last episode,

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Camp Rock 3. Which was a new film. New film.

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This one's not new. No. Famously. Old. Yep. We're

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talking about Chicago. Chicago. Chicago. Chicago.

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Do you know what that's from? No. Oh, OK. I was

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just playing along. What? This is crazy because.

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This wig is very itchy. It's from. It's from

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Victoria's, the girl from Victoria's, the sister,

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Trina. And this is again, as this tiktok says,

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this is what I hear every time I say Chicago,

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she. is having her one woman show. Chicago, Trina,

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a one woman show. And this is, that's like the

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rhythm she says it. And then people were like,

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no, she needs to play. Also, Roxy Hart. But I,

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oh, I remember this. And that's the play, Chicago.

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But that's what I was doing. And I'm glad I remembered

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that because I meant to talk about that little

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Trina Vega, whatever her name is. I liked that

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show, some of it. Loved it. Loved that show.

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Well, you know what movie we're doing. And I

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feel as though we're extra, we feel extra inspired

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because you just had a birthday and Austin just

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had a birthday. Yep. And for that birthday, we

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opened up for one night only the Golden Bone.

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The Jazz Club, the Golden Bone. Yes. And there

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were performances. There were performances. Yeah,

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it was a humdinger of a time, if I do say so

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myself. Austin and I, we were working on this

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opening for a while for our birthday. Right,

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Austin? He's nodding. And we brought in a drum.

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One drum. One snare. We brought in a piano. Be

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in a piano. We brought in a harmonica. And we

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brought in microphones. And I will tell you what

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though, while we had a great time and we performed

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lots, I was really hoping more people would perform.

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Me too. Me too. You know, every time we have

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a party, We perform, right? But not everyone

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is always invited to perform, and this time,

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everyone - You were begging for people to perform,

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truly. Everyone was invited to perform, and no

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one would. No. So, I told that to my mom, and

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she said, you need better friends. Yep. And I

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kind of agree. Yeah, I totally agree. Austin,

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what do you think? Okay. No one performed and

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that's okay. I mean we had to what a performers

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do one We perform yet to we go with the flow.

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Yeah, we improvise. Yeah, so we we held a Q &A

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Q &A. Yes What did they ask us? A really good

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Q &A. They were coming at us left and right with

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questions. Peppering us. So I really could not

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even begin to remember what they were asking

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of us. But we answered. Just kind of interested

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in the show, what we do, how we do it, where

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we learned our talents from. Where we trained

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classically. Yeah. And what's next? Yes, exactly.

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Exactly. Which we wouldn't tell them, of course.

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No, no. Never. No. But I thought it was a success.

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Exactly. Yes. It was open late a lot later than

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I thought it would be. Oh yeah, open late for

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sure. Yeah, for sure. Usually I feel like we

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don't do that. We don't go that late. We really

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don't. It went into the wee hours. Yes. But when

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the gin is cold and the piano's hot, we will

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be open late. but never again the golden bone

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is closed forever permanently yep it was the

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tragic combination of liquor and jazz that led

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to their downfall stay away from that liquor

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and jazz or kill your husband kill your husband

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but yeah everything is jazz we are jazz so we

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had to do this movie uh chicago and this musical

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chicago Which I hadn't seen either the musical

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or the movie yep, I knew a lot of the music but

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Didn't know really what was going on right? Yeah,

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and then Austin and I had both seen I knew the

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music and then Austin I had both seen Chicago

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when we lived in New York on Broadway One of

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the longest standing running I think So we saw

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it there, but I had never seen the movie, nor

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did I know it was a movie. Really? Yeah, no idea.

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When you picked that movie out at Goodwill, I

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was like, that was the first I had seen it ever.

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Wow. And then I got confused, because I was like,

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wait, did the musical come first? Or did the

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movie come first? Or whatever. But movie well

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after the play. Well, well after. Austin, you

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did have some thoughts during the musical about

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the scenery about the just a couple things. I

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don't even know if you remember them, but do

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you want to give us a little rundown of that

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as well as as you're doing that maybe the plot

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based on what you remember? Because also if you

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haven't seen this movie or film or play Just

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go see it. So again, we're not really going to

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tell you a lot of the plot. So we we have we

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have a low expectation. I'm just saying, you

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know, OK, you don't have to like it was a great

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intro read off of, you know, Wikipedia or anything

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fantastic. Well, I remember the theater being

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shitty and paint was like chipping off the ceiling

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and stuff. So that was cool. And then I remember

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the band was like ancient. They're all like in

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their 70s or something. They were loose. The

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band was loose. I'm sorry, this was on Broadway?

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On Broadway, yes. Not in a good way. Yeah. And

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then the performers were also loose. Not in a

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good way. Was everyone drunk? I think it was

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just sloppy. Yeah. Real sloppy. What else do

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I remember? I was disappointed by Romy. Katie,

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is that her name? What was her name? Yeah, I'm

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looking her name up right now because if you

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go back to our past episodes, we did one on Romy

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and Michelle's high school reunion. And Romy

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White was our Roxy Hart. Her name is Mira Sorvino.

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Yeah, she wasn't great. I didn't have a good

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time watching it. I wish we wouldn't have gone.

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Shit. Yeah, that's a scathing review. So do you

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remember anything that happened? I'm not gonna

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put it in. What? Do it yes, cuz it's so funny

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because the little bear is by you What was the

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question what happened in the play There was

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a guy named Christian and a girl named Satine

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And they fall in love is he for real though I

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don't know what the actual plot of this play

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even is they like kill their husbands or whatever

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and it's just like burlesque club a jazz club

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okay i don't know like do you know where do you

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know where it takes place probably chicago i

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would imagine but like but like they kill their

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husbands and then like where are they doing all

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of this on the streets of chicago i don't know

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that's what i thought at the club but where is

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like the club i have no idea like the cell block

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tango is one of the numbers They're in jail.

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You knew that, right? No. I was so utterly disappointed

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with the shitty band. But you didn't know that

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they were in jail? Maybe I did at one point in

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my life. I don't know. That's all I have to say.

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Okay, thank you. Thank you, Austin. Yeah, I got

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my questions answered. I know it maybe feels

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like there's a lot of holes, but to me that's

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exactly what I thought that he did not understand

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the premise fully. I have seen other videos of

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people not getting that part of it either. That

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they're mostly in jail? Right. It's also harder,

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I will say, because in the musical, it's a musical,

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you're on the set. in the movie it's very very

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clear like this is when we're in jail here she's

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in front of and like talking to the press here

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she's in a courtroom when they're in jail and

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like or mama's doing her number and stuff it's

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just like on a stage and then they have the little

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like stand up fabric jail cells that the girls

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are dancing behind so it's a yeah it's a loose

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concept but yes it's all like in her mind. It's

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all a performance. It's all jazz. A couple things

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in her mind. No, kind of. Not really. But like,

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yeah. She's like, Roxy wants to be a star. Roxy

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wants to like perform. So yes, you could interpret

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it as like, like Roxy is being told a story from

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Velma. And she's like, we should reformed or

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whatever. But like, then it goes into a whole

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actual like, jazz performance singing an act

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some might say you know give them the old razzle

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dazzle razzle dazzle um yeah it's all a performance

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just like life yes life is a performance this

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movie is a performance as well as the play Someday

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you will see us starring in it. Yes. So, okay.

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He was utterly unimpressed. Right. Did you? What

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were your thoughts? I don't have as strong a

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feelings one I agree. Um, I would say I don't

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want to like come fully at the theater because

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I do love theater. I love Broadway and Would

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I rather have them be paying the actors and stuff

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more money than cleaning up the old set? But

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like they are one of like the longest running

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shows and it was like it like felt like run down

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like the theater itself like even just like the

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lights and we were really close to some of like

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the stage lights and They're just like covered

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in dust. So just like Simple things. Yeah, and

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where I've never noticed that really because

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at other theaters then after this I started to

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look at those things and it wasn't like that.

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So I just like it was just felt. Yeah, like we've

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been doing this for a hundred years and we're

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gonna keep doing it. I will say I thought all

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of the actual Broadway actors insanely talented

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Velma was So, so talented and so good. And I

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think that's why Myra, Romy, I think that's why

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she looked so bad. Like noticeably. Is because

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Roxy is typically always a like more famous person

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that they're bringing in, which is also how they've

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stayed. Running that long and I like that aspect

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because it's just bringing more like people into

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Broadway and obviously spending their money there

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and stuff but You just could notice when they

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dance next to each other How different it is

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like this is like a technically trained jazz

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Bob Fosse dancer who like that takes like Years

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to like master that type of style and it like

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it just looks so bad when you have her Together

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so I would be like Whitney Levitt. She was the

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last one and she's a little bit like younger

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She was on Dancing with the Stars. She has a

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dance brand background So I would be curious

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to see how they would look next to each other

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because it's still the same like Thelma But she

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she was just so so good. Um, I'd be interested

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to see because now Reese. Yeah, she's like obviously

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professional dancer. Yeah, I think yeah, she'll

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be very a lot more sharp with it But overall,

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I was obviously entertained. I've also loved

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the music because of Glee, mainly, is how I learned

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it. So, seeing that live, it was insane. And

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the people who do the cell -box tango and stuff,

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they're actual Broadway dancers and performers,

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so it's like they were incredible. Not as scathing

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of a review as him, but Reddit is crazy. If you

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want more actual... going in reviews of this,

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go on Reddit because we looked afterwards and

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they were devouring Chicago. Oh, yeah. I kind

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of forgot about that until now, but. But yes,

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thank you for the plot kind of update. Do we

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have any more plot holes? No, there's really

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like not that much plot. No, it's not about the

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plot. No, it's about it's about performance.

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It's about the act. I guess we should say that.

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In this scenario, I am Roxy Hart. I kill my husband

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allegedly. No, I don't kill my husband. Sorry,

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I kill the person I'm having an affair with.

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My husband does try to cover for me. Anyways,

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no, he's kind of like a rider, but whatever.

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Yeah, go moving on. I'm Roxy Hart and I, again,

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I'm going to jail and I want to be a star. I'm

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not a star. But I'm like, I'm trying to perform.

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I want to have an act. So now that I just killed

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somebody, the attention's on me and I love it.

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And I'm like, I'm going to get out of here. I'm

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going to get off and I'm going to be a star.

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I'm going to have a little one woman show and

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I'm going to be great. That's right. And I'm

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Velma. I am a star. Yes. But I shot my husband

00:18:34.660 --> 00:18:37.539
and sister allegedly because they were doing

00:18:37.539 --> 00:18:41.500
the spread eagle. And I'm also going to get out

00:18:41.500 --> 00:18:44.099
of here and I'm going to get back on stage. But

00:18:44.099 --> 00:18:47.920
I had a double act and now my counterpart is

00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:51.099
dead. So I need somebody to fill in and it might

00:18:51.099 --> 00:18:52.559
have to be her even though I don't like lover.

00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:54.859
This little tramp is going to step in. Yeah.

00:18:56.250 --> 00:18:59.029
Blonde bimbo. Yeah, unfortunately. She's talented.

00:18:59.470 --> 00:19:05.309
So Look at me. What do you know? Yeah. Yeah.

00:19:05.490 --> 00:19:07.509
Okay. So then the movie. What did you think of

00:19:07.509 --> 00:19:11.750
the movie? Loved the movie. Yeah, I As soon as

00:19:11.750 --> 00:19:13.829
like the opening little song started. I was like

00:19:13.829 --> 00:19:16.369
one. This is pretty much exactly like our jazz

00:19:16.369 --> 00:19:19.369
club. So like I get it. I'm I'm transported back

00:19:19.369 --> 00:19:25.339
love it Yeah, I loved the movie I don't really

00:19:25.339 --> 00:19:30.079
know if I have any like critiques of it. Yeah,

00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:32.839
I just, I will forever, forever, forever, forever

00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:35.819
love the cell block tango. It's just so good.

00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:39.319
I thought I've never seen even a clip of it and

00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:44.059
that they, it was so good. I love it. Yeah. Yeah,

00:19:44.180 --> 00:19:51.440
I agree. This, it did something to me. I was

00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:53.839
changed. Yeah. by all of it. It's like, I knew

00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:56.299
you would. I knew you would. And, you know, my

00:19:56.299 --> 00:19:58.819
first note, this is big. I feel like I'm preparing

00:19:58.819 --> 00:20:02.000
for this my whole life. Yeah. And in a lot of

00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:06.240
ways, I think I have. Yeah, the performances

00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:11.099
were crazy good. Yeah. Specifically, Catherine

00:20:11.099 --> 00:20:14.180
Zeta Jones, who played Velma. Just like, wow.

00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.660
Wow. I heard she was incredible in this. I know

00:20:17.660 --> 00:20:21.539
she won the Oscar for it, but like, damn. Damn,

00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:25.430
girl. Give her her flowers. Here you go. Here

00:20:25.430 --> 00:20:28.910
you go. Here you go. No, it was incredible. The

00:20:28.910 --> 00:20:31.950
only critiques I have will go through, and it's

00:20:31.950 --> 00:20:35.009
not even really critiques. Yeah, I agree. So

00:20:35.009 --> 00:20:39.910
good. Yeah. Oh, did we talk about it? I don't

00:20:39.910 --> 00:20:42.269
remember. Okay. No, I think we just like we like

00:20:42.269 --> 00:20:44.390
talked that said that we went and then we like

00:20:44.390 --> 00:20:46.009
never, we're like, we're going to do a whole

00:20:46.009 --> 00:20:48.930
episode. Yeah. And then we didn't. Okay. So this,

00:20:49.029 --> 00:20:51.269
um, reminded us both of when we went to the Broadway

00:20:51.269 --> 00:20:54.430
rave here in Milwaukee last year, which was an

00:20:54.430 --> 00:20:57.730
experience to behold. Would I do it again? 100

00:20:57.730 --> 00:21:01.230
% I would. Yeah. Um, but you got to be on like

00:21:01.230 --> 00:21:05.349
a level for it. Yeah, we need to be more inebriated,

00:21:05.470 --> 00:21:07.549
that's for sure. Yeah, I think in the beginning

00:21:07.549 --> 00:21:09.329
we were like at a good level, but then once it

00:21:09.329 --> 00:21:12.079
started to wear off... I did not feel comfortable.

00:21:12.339 --> 00:21:16.119
And like I felt as though like kind of like we

00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:18.859
started those like toned down and everyone else

00:21:18.859 --> 00:21:21.819
was just getting started. Yeah. Because maybe

00:21:21.819 --> 00:21:24.200
that's our bad. I think it is. I think it is.

00:21:24.259 --> 00:21:26.519
We're stepping into your space. So we've got

00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:28.859
to match it. Exactly. I just didn't know that's

00:21:28.859 --> 00:21:30.299
what it was going to be like. I did not know

00:21:30.299 --> 00:21:32.380
everyone was going to be like full on Broadway

00:21:32.380 --> 00:21:34.140
performing. Yeah. I thought it was like, oh,

00:21:34.140 --> 00:21:36.319
this is a fun little like dance around dance

00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:38.500
party. And that we're I thought we would all

00:21:38.500 --> 00:21:42.829
be like DJ up there, here we are, not that people

00:21:42.829 --> 00:21:45.509
would be going on stage and doing full performance

00:21:45.509 --> 00:21:49.089
songs. And in some cases, actually singing into

00:21:49.089 --> 00:21:52.950
microphones. But no, they started playing, I

00:21:52.950 --> 00:21:55.150
think it was all that jazz, right? Yeah. Yeah.

00:21:55.730 --> 00:22:00.500
And there was... To be clear, this person, this

00:22:00.500 --> 00:22:03.240
person who was doing the performance was at the

00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:06.619
bar while I was getting us drinks. Yes. And we

00:22:06.619 --> 00:22:09.539
were over there in a top hat. Because like it

00:22:09.539 --> 00:22:11.599
started playing everyone was like, oh, and then

00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:13.180
people started looking at her and pointing at

00:22:13.180 --> 00:22:15.619
her and she was standing there. And she like

00:22:15.619 --> 00:22:19.670
against the bar. She starts. slinking to the

00:22:19.670 --> 00:22:21.670
stage. And when I tell you, it was Conti as hell.

00:22:22.210 --> 00:22:25.730
No, it was amazing. It was so good. It was like,

00:22:25.890 --> 00:22:27.509
oh, shit, Abby, we're really out of our league

00:22:27.509 --> 00:22:31.170
here. She had it. She slinks over to the stage,

00:22:31.230 --> 00:22:33.690
and she starts doing an entire choreographed

00:22:33.690 --> 00:22:37.430
number. On the floor, rolling. Oh my god. Crawling,

00:22:37.829 --> 00:22:42.750
which love, love, the problem was there was another

00:22:42.750 --> 00:22:46.789
Velma in the crowd, at least one more, who maybe,

00:22:47.879 --> 00:22:51.920
Wasn't as like like choreographed exactly like

00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:53.579
she wanted to get up there and do her thing But

00:22:53.579 --> 00:22:56.160
she didn't have like a whole number number Yeah,

00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:58.539
and you know you think something like this someone

00:22:58.539 --> 00:23:00.640
comes up and like on stage with you and you like

00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:02.920
incorporate them and you do exactly you have

00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:07.660
fun no Velma number one made it very clear that

00:23:07.660 --> 00:23:09.960
this was her stage Yes, so this other Velma came

00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:12.240
up on stage and tried to like kind of you know

00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:15.029
get into it other Velma did not break the fourth

00:23:15.029 --> 00:23:19.109
wall. She keeps going. And keeps going harder

00:23:19.109 --> 00:23:21.809
and takes up more space on the stage. So eventually,

00:23:22.130 --> 00:23:24.750
Velma number two leaves. And it just made us

00:23:24.750 --> 00:23:27.650
really sad because like this is supposed to be

00:23:27.650 --> 00:23:30.650
for everyone. Yes. Like I thought the Broadway

00:23:30.650 --> 00:23:32.910
community was very like, come on, this is our

00:23:32.910 --> 00:23:35.890
night. Let's all perform. And like this isn't

00:23:35.890 --> 00:23:37.750
your high school theater. You're not trying out

00:23:37.750 --> 00:23:42.079
for the role. Like, yes. And I think the girl

00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:43.839
who ended up leaving the stage was like, the

00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:46.660
girl who was, I'm sorry, better. She had the

00:23:46.660 --> 00:23:49.619
costume, she had the look. She slunk over to

00:23:49.619 --> 00:23:54.119
that stage. Yeah, it was a bummer. And that's

00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:56.779
kind of, I think, one of the times when we really

00:23:56.779 --> 00:23:58.900
started to kill our buzz. And we were like, this

00:23:58.900 --> 00:24:01.799
isn't fun anymore. Like, why are we trying to,

00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.579
OK? Like, theater people are kind of the worst,

00:24:04.940 --> 00:24:10.029
you know? Like, what are we doing? Just remember

00:24:10.029 --> 00:24:12.769
if you're in those spaces be inclusive. Yeah,

00:24:12.769 --> 00:24:14.869
it's not just your time to shine You're literally

00:24:14.869 --> 00:24:17.869
not on Broadway. You're at the Broadway in Milwaukee

00:24:17.869 --> 00:24:20.670
in a random warehouse. You had to pay $40 to

00:24:20.670 --> 00:24:24.789
get in here Like no one's discovering you know

00:24:24.789 --> 00:24:29.829
and if they do great, but Include others. Yeah,

00:24:29.829 --> 00:24:32.609
that's that's my so because I get the end of

00:24:32.609 --> 00:24:36.130
the day. You're literally at a DJ said yeah dance

00:24:36.130 --> 00:24:40.450
and then dance with everyone on this stage. Yeah,

00:24:40.650 --> 00:24:42.990
right. Because what are you going to do after

00:24:42.990 --> 00:24:45.890
this number? Yeah, go back into the crowd. Yeah,

00:24:46.130 --> 00:24:48.990
literally. And we're going to talk shit about

00:24:48.990 --> 00:24:52.529
it. Yeah. But the difference between is that

00:24:52.529 --> 00:24:55.789
we're the perfect double act. Exactly. We know

00:24:55.789 --> 00:24:58.710
when to share the spotlight. We know when to

00:24:58.710 --> 00:25:03.210
razzle, dazzle. And you've clearly seen that

00:25:03.210 --> 00:25:05.990
so far. I mean. I mean, what's this whole show

00:25:05.990 --> 00:25:08.970
show double act? Yes, but you know, we we know

00:25:08.970 --> 00:25:10.730
how to read a room We know how to play to an

00:25:10.730 --> 00:25:14.869
audience. Yes, which not everybody gets no and

00:25:14.869 --> 00:25:20.869
that's pretty much why Because no, this is really

00:25:20.869 --> 00:25:23.549
serious It's because this is why we performed

00:25:23.549 --> 00:25:26.869
for 45 minutes straight and then to the Q &A

00:25:26.869 --> 00:25:29.549
at your party because we were reading the room

00:25:29.549 --> 00:25:31.269
We were reading the room and we could tell that

00:25:31.269 --> 00:25:33.789
okay. No one else feels comfortable enough. Yeah

00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:36.740
to entertain, we have the repertoire to keep

00:25:36.740 --> 00:25:42.279
going, so we'll do it. We didn't even talk about

00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:49.180
our walk -in. Oh, the fact that we got the music

00:25:49.180 --> 00:25:53.079
queued up. Everyone else was having, we kind

00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:57.119
of ruined the flow of the party. Everyone else

00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:59.319
was having a good time. Max told us he's like,

00:25:59.420 --> 00:26:02.009
it's too early, it's too early. Which said. No.

00:26:02.349 --> 00:26:04.549
Which pissed me off, first of all. You do not

00:26:04.549 --> 00:26:08.470
tell me at my party that it's too early for performances.

00:26:09.269 --> 00:26:11.109
What do you mean? It's like nine o 'clock. Nine

00:26:11.109 --> 00:26:12.750
o 'clock. Yeah. I can't think of a better time.

00:26:12.890 --> 00:26:14.170
What do you go to a jazz club? You gotta wait

00:26:14.170 --> 00:26:17.690
two hours to see jazz. That's crazy. So of course

00:26:17.690 --> 00:26:20.849
we went upstairs. Abby put on her business casual

00:26:20.849 --> 00:26:24.650
outfit. No, it was a sleight. It really was.

00:26:24.650 --> 00:26:27.849
My businesswoman special. It was perfect. And

00:26:27.849 --> 00:26:29.609
we said, OK, great. We're going to go down and

00:26:29.609 --> 00:26:31.789
we're going to move this party to the stage to

00:26:31.789 --> 00:26:35.950
start blasting applause by Lady Gaga, famously

00:26:35.950 --> 00:26:39.890
a jazz song. And we go down clapping. Applause,

00:26:41.029 --> 00:26:43.849
applause, applause. Liberty, applause, applause.

00:26:44.130 --> 00:26:47.630
Liberty, applause, applause. And the full number.

00:26:48.410 --> 00:26:52.319
And then we did Lady Marmo, lady. Yes. Full number.

00:26:52.579 --> 00:26:54.460
I thought maybe that would be one that would

00:26:54.460 --> 00:26:57.519
get people up and going. They're silent. They're

00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.960
watching us. Oh, shit. They're pretty much, we

00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:02.940
know at that point, they're locked in. They're

00:27:02.940 --> 00:27:07.039
entertained. They're wanting more is what I gathered

00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.359
when I read the room. So yeah, that's where we're

00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:12.319
different. You're like, perfect. We have them.

00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:14.119
And for me, I'm like, shit. I thought they're

00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:15.640
all going to get up and dance with us. Now we

00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:19.609
need to think of something. for us. Yeah. And

00:27:19.609 --> 00:27:22.529
they were for the next four hours. Yes. Yes.

00:27:22.609 --> 00:27:25.210
But let's not forget that we took a break. We

00:27:25.210 --> 00:27:28.170
offered up the stage to others. We served champagne.

00:27:28.630 --> 00:27:31.950
Yes. We then served champagne. That got people

00:27:31.950 --> 00:27:34.869
loose. A few more people did come up with us

00:27:34.869 --> 00:27:41.509
after we called them up. I will say too, if people

00:27:41.509 --> 00:27:44.269
didn't like it, they would have left. And the

00:27:44.269 --> 00:27:48.519
people stayed. The people stayed. Yeah, the whole

00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.119
time. And I was surprised at the people who stayed

00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:54.099
and how long they did. Yeah, so it's clear that

00:27:54.099 --> 00:27:57.180
they liked it. We also did get feedback after

00:27:57.180 --> 00:28:01.039
about how much fun they had. No way. Yes, tell

00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:05.220
me. Tell me I need this. I'm sure they were all

00:28:05.220 --> 00:28:08.220
gabbing about it. Oh, so you actually don't know?

00:28:08.380 --> 00:28:12.539
No. I know. No, no, no, no, no, no. I do know.

00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:14.859
I don't know what exactly they said. It was probably

00:28:14.859 --> 00:28:18.740
a quick one or two sentences at band practice.

00:28:21.019 --> 00:28:23.740
But that's about all I know. OK. I did talk to

00:28:23.740 --> 00:28:26.380
Jake about it at the wedding I went to two weekends

00:28:26.380 --> 00:28:31.710
ago. And I was like. Did you like it? Did you

00:28:31.710 --> 00:28:33.430
like what you saw? Did you like it? Or like,

00:28:33.509 --> 00:28:34.769
I think we might have scared you. He's like,

00:28:34.849 --> 00:28:36.609
I'm not going to lie. I was a little scared.

00:28:37.670 --> 00:28:39.609
But it was because I didn't know that's what

00:28:39.609 --> 00:28:43.390
it was. Well, and I said, own fault for not reading

00:28:43.390 --> 00:28:48.250
the instructions. But to be fair, it was his

00:28:48.250 --> 00:28:52.430
first party. Yeah. His first ever party. Right.

00:28:52.670 --> 00:28:56.009
Yeah. So I said, that's fine. Next time come

00:28:56.009 --> 00:28:59.230
prepared with yes, yeah, he should have kind

00:28:59.230 --> 00:29:01.710
of gotten the vibe right away when I was giving

00:29:01.710 --> 00:29:06.130
a Thick New York accent and I wouldn't allow

00:29:06.130 --> 00:29:10.009
it Yeah, yeah, he was like yeah, I walked in

00:29:10.009 --> 00:29:13.950
and I was hit yeah, yeah, and like he had a sleepover

00:29:13.950 --> 00:29:22.509
bag Yeah, and Abby's at the door saying welcome

00:29:22.509 --> 00:29:28.910
to the golden bone ID, please Just kidding. I

00:29:28.910 --> 00:29:36.390
don't want your fucking ID cover charges Pay

00:29:36.390 --> 00:29:40.990
up schmuck and he goes I have a hundred. Can

00:29:40.990 --> 00:29:48.490
you break a hundred? She goes no Oh god, you

00:29:48.490 --> 00:29:50.809
didn't let him in for a minute there. He was

00:29:50.809 --> 00:29:53.470
the longest one who stood there for sure, for

00:29:53.470 --> 00:29:56.750
sure, for sure. So anyways, we throw a great

00:29:56.750 --> 00:30:01.109
party. Yeah. Hire us. Hire us. Come to our future

00:30:01.109 --> 00:30:02.970
parties. Maybe we'll actually plan when we have

00:30:02.970 --> 00:30:06.089
that idea for a while. Yeah, let's get on that.

00:30:06.490 --> 00:30:08.930
Okay. All right, I think we could probably talk

00:30:08.930 --> 00:30:12.630
about the movie now. Yeah. Probably. Probably.

00:30:13.430 --> 00:30:16.450
You were starting to talk about Velma, and she

00:30:16.450 --> 00:30:20.410
is probably my favorite also, so we can continue

00:30:20.410 --> 00:30:22.289
to give her her flowers if you have any other

00:30:22.289 --> 00:30:25.930
thoughts on her. I mean, there's just... Thoughts

00:30:25.930 --> 00:30:28.069
on yourself, I should say. Oh, yes, on myself.

00:30:28.670 --> 00:30:31.029
I mean, she was just perfect. Yeah. Like, I mean,

00:30:31.069 --> 00:30:33.069
I was loving every part of the movie, but then

00:30:33.069 --> 00:30:35.529
every time she comes on screen, it was just like,

00:30:35.670 --> 00:30:38.910
oh, I'm sitting up. Yeah, I'm watching more intently.

00:30:39.769 --> 00:30:42.910
it was just so very impressive because I don't

00:30:42.910 --> 00:30:47.190
know what her dance background is. Yeah, I have

00:30:47.190 --> 00:30:49.690
no idea. I don't know who she is, so. I didn't

00:30:49.690 --> 00:30:53.349
look into it. No. I mean, she's in like Zorro.

00:30:54.029 --> 00:30:57.170
No, okay. So she was like more of a movie star

00:30:57.170 --> 00:30:59.609
like back in early 2000s. I see. But she wasn't

00:30:59.609 --> 00:31:02.049
in like Too Too Much. Yeah. So, and I don't think

00:31:02.049 --> 00:31:04.069
people really knew that she had this in her,

00:31:04.289 --> 00:31:14.559
but she ate. down boots boots down house All

00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:19.140
of it. Wow. Yeah, she did. Yeah And yeah, all

00:31:19.140 --> 00:31:21.839
the dancing was her Yeah, that's cool. Yeah,

00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:26.099
which is really amazing and she the the fuck

00:31:26.099 --> 00:31:29.220
-ass Bob First of all, she really pulls it off.

00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.619
Yeah, it looks so good. Mm -hmm. Perfect perfect

00:31:32.619 --> 00:31:36.220
for her and she came up with the hairstyle because

00:31:36.220 --> 00:31:38.200
she said if I have long hair whipping around

00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:40.160
while I'm dancing people are gonna have reason

00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.619
to think that like I had a body double or I had

00:31:42.619 --> 00:31:45.940
a dance double and we can't have that. I need

00:31:45.940 --> 00:31:47.700
people to see that it's me the whole time. Oh.

00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.339
Which is amazing. Girl girl. Which I feel like

00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:52.500
is so something we would do if we could dance

00:31:52.500 --> 00:31:55.700
like that. Absolutely. And we can. And we can

00:31:55.700 --> 00:31:59.390
and we will. We have. Because... Normally I like

00:31:59.390 --> 00:32:01.269
to have my hair bath while I'm performing so

00:32:01.269 --> 00:32:04.990
I can really, people can see my face. There's

00:32:04.990 --> 00:32:08.309
no way that's hurt. Look at that vocal. There's

00:32:08.309 --> 00:32:11.109
no way that's hurt. That range? Oh my gosh. They

00:32:11.109 --> 00:32:12.390
should have brought in a double. They should

00:32:12.390 --> 00:32:19.230
have brought in a double. It's really her, isn't

00:32:19.230 --> 00:32:23.470
it? It's kind of also like during the show when

00:32:23.470 --> 00:32:27.569
we during the show not the party the show During

00:32:27.569 --> 00:32:33.150
the show when we queued up our own song to karaoke.

00:32:33.569 --> 00:32:37.750
Oh my god. I forgot Okay, so people really said

00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:41.750
wow. Yeah, so this is them the whole time No

00:32:41.750 --> 00:32:44.970
auto tune during Q &A we were like oh and we

00:32:44.970 --> 00:32:48.009
also Need to start recording more songs and then

00:32:48.009 --> 00:32:51.089
they were like what you have a song out We were

00:32:51.089 --> 00:32:52.869
like, oh my God, yes. We spent approximately

00:32:52.869 --> 00:32:56.250
seven minutes finding the recording of our song

00:32:56.250 --> 00:32:59.690
in a silent room. We're finding it. And then

00:32:59.690 --> 00:33:03.250
it was our recording of what is this feeling,

00:33:03.609 --> 00:33:06.509
which we spent approximately eight hours recording

00:33:06.509 --> 00:33:08.869
with Austin. And then he spent a lot of time

00:33:08.869 --> 00:33:12.130
mixing and editing it. And we played it loud

00:33:12.130 --> 00:33:17.450
and we lip synced to ourselves covering what

00:33:17.450 --> 00:33:22.539
is this feeling? Like we are on fucking RuPaul's

00:33:22.539 --> 00:33:27.019
day. And you know what? Here comes our game.

00:33:27.220 --> 00:33:29.160
Did we even dance to it or were we just sitting

00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:33.579
down? No, we were up. Yeah, we were kind of skipping

00:33:33.579 --> 00:33:36.720
back and forth. In fact, a lot of movement because

00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.640
I took a video and neither of us are even in

00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:44.960
the video because we're running around. Yeah.

00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:48.420
But. What can we say? What can we say? We love

00:33:48.420 --> 00:33:51.279
to perform. Yeah, we love the publicity and so

00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.640
does Velma. That's I love that about her anytime.

00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:57.660
She's like, you know She's trying to be a star.

00:33:57.759 --> 00:33:58.819
She's trying to continue to be a star. What's

00:33:58.819 --> 00:34:01.680
her name in the papers? Exactly, and I love that.

00:34:02.099 --> 00:34:05.740
Yeah, I mean what is what is Chicago but an old

00:34:05.740 --> 00:34:10.039
timey newspaper? I don't know where you're going.

00:34:14.339 --> 00:34:15.940
Sweetheart, I don't know where you're going with

00:34:15.940 --> 00:34:19.280
it. What is a podcast but a modern -day Chicago?

00:34:20.139 --> 00:34:28.480
Am I right? Folks. Folks. And I stand by that.

00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.420
And you know what? I have always said that. No,

00:34:31.579 --> 00:34:34.579
that's so true. You have. You really have. Yeah.

00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:41.000
Yeah. Since the day I met you. 45 years ago when

00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:45.519
I said a podcast. My name is Chicago. Am I right?

00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:49.900
Oh boy. Okay. I mean, what else? What else about

00:34:49.900 --> 00:34:53.559
Velma? I don't honestly have any specifics. I

00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:55.340
don't have much to say about her because she

00:34:55.340 --> 00:34:59.340
was just perfect. Yeah, truly. Yeah. I want to

00:34:59.340 --> 00:35:03.159
be her. I want to be. In her. In her. I knew

00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.179
you were going to go there. That's right. In

00:35:05.179 --> 00:35:07.920
her body. In her, yes. You know what I mean?

00:35:08.260 --> 00:35:12.260
Like, not, never mind. But like, keep that in.

00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:21.940
In. In. All right. Channel her. The name on everybody's

00:35:21.940 --> 00:35:27.440
lips is gonna be Roxy. Let's talk about Roxy.

00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:31.840
That's me. Did you like? Renee Zellwiggers, Roxy.

00:35:32.739 --> 00:35:40.940
That's the actress. Yeah. Um, yes, I did. I found

00:35:40.940 --> 00:35:46.539
that she was a lot easier to hate. She's a lot

00:35:46.539 --> 00:35:50.059
more annoying in the movie than versus the musical.

00:35:50.460 --> 00:35:54.699
Are we supposed to hate her? So not like hate,

00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:58.869
but I think like she just seemed more like. annoying

00:35:58.869 --> 00:36:04.909
like stupid and like I don't like narcissistic

00:36:04.909 --> 00:36:09.969
like yeah yeah yeah obviously the same like major

00:36:09.969 --> 00:36:13.949
plot points happen in the musical as well down

00:36:13.949 --> 00:36:16.690
to like yeah what was that did you catch that

00:36:16.690 --> 00:36:23.400
Austin oh it'll be on there down to like you

00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:25.619
know her faking her pregnancy and stuff like

00:36:25.619 --> 00:36:27.539
that like that's all also in the musical so she

00:36:27.539 --> 00:36:30.880
seems narcissistic and very like fame hungry

00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.059
but i don't know why i just didn't get that sense

00:36:34.059 --> 00:36:36.480
from in the musical but maybe it was because

00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.739
i was just like not enthralled by her but no

00:36:39.739 --> 00:36:42.719
i really liked the roxy here i thought she was

00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:49.320
fabulous um yeah she is she played roxy heart

00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:54.300
beautifully yeah I agree. She was the only Roxy

00:36:54.300 --> 00:36:58.059
I've seen. But I thought she did a fantastic

00:36:58.059 --> 00:37:01.719
job. And also just to give Renee her flowers,

00:37:02.059 --> 00:37:06.800
she's a fantastic talent. She really is. There's

00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:08.980
other things you might know her from, but I highly

00:37:08.980 --> 00:37:12.820
recommend the movie Judy. It's about Judy Garland.

00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:15.300
Cool. You know Judy Garland? Yes. Yes, of course

00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:17.639
you do. Of course. You're a fucking idiot. I

00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:20.980
mean, I never know anyone. No, I know Judy. OK,

00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.820
well, yeah, I highly recommend that one. It's

00:37:23.820 --> 00:37:26.460
about her and her later life. Yeah, you know

00:37:26.460 --> 00:37:28.699
Judy. It's very good. She might even want to

00:37:28.699 --> 00:37:32.300
ask her for that. Don't quote me. No, I will.

00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:35.320
All right. Yeah, we talked a little bit about

00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.340
the Broadway Roxies that there have been. Yeah,

00:37:38.380 --> 00:37:40.539
I was like, do you still have the list up? Because

00:37:40.539 --> 00:37:42.280
that is something interesting. Obviously, we

00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:46.500
mentioned that there's always generally, at least

00:37:46.500 --> 00:37:50.780
in our kind of lifetime, maybe it's been obviously

00:37:50.780 --> 00:37:53.079
longer than that. They've always kind of had

00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:56.780
like a famous person as Roxy, not to say it's

00:37:56.780 --> 00:38:00.500
like an easy role at all. a lot of the bigger

00:38:00.500 --> 00:38:06.420
musical numbers are sung by like Velma or other

00:38:06.420 --> 00:38:10.260
and then also like Roxy I feel like it's now

00:38:10.260 --> 00:38:14.719
become a thing a trend for a famous person to

00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:18.869
do it and bring in more More, more, what is it

00:38:18.869 --> 00:38:21.170
called? More publicity. More butts and seats.

00:38:21.289 --> 00:38:23.869
More butts and seats, yes, exactly. Yeah, so

00:38:23.869 --> 00:38:27.789
right now it's Reese Weaver who was on Dallas

00:38:27.789 --> 00:38:29.530
Cowboys Cheerleaders. She was like one of the

00:38:29.530 --> 00:38:32.730
star of, what's that called? America's Dive in

00:38:32.730 --> 00:38:35.289
the Harps. Yes, or the series, yeah. And then

00:38:35.289 --> 00:38:37.369
before that was Whitney, leave it, love it, leave

00:38:37.369 --> 00:38:41.610
it, leave it, leave it, leave it, drop it, sit,

00:38:41.889 --> 00:38:46.369
sit, drop it. Remind me to tell you about...

00:38:46.090 --> 00:38:48.130
How the dogs were with the baby by the way it

00:38:48.130 --> 00:38:53.170
was pretty funny. Oh Then was Alyssa Milano who's

00:38:53.170 --> 00:39:00.050
that she is she's an actor. She's in like That's

00:39:00.050 --> 00:39:02.889
not really looking familiar to me like older

00:39:02.889 --> 00:39:06.369
pictures of her Yeah, not really looking too

00:39:06.369 --> 00:39:08.289
familiar. I don't even know what she's in but

00:39:08.289 --> 00:39:09.929
I just like you always kind of see her around

00:39:09.929 --> 00:39:13.030
you know Okay, and then there was Mira. Yeah,

00:39:13.030 --> 00:39:17.960
so that was that was your girl Yep, Ashley Graham

00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:23.280
She's a model right is that what I'm thinking

00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:27.340
up. She's like the plus -sized model that got

00:39:27.340 --> 00:39:39.139
really famous Yeah, oh mm -hmm. She's like a

00:39:39.139 --> 00:39:43.510
Victoria's Secret model You probably know her

00:39:43.510 --> 00:39:45.789
from stuff. She, yes. She looks familiar with

00:39:45.789 --> 00:39:49.730
the Met Gala this year. Oh, no. Was she on selling

00:39:49.730 --> 00:39:53.090
with sunset? Selling sunset? I don't think so.

00:39:53.329 --> 00:39:56.969
Selling, selling the sunset? I don't think so.

00:40:07.909 --> 00:40:10.760
This is what I'm thinking of. Oh, they do kind

00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:13.059
of look the same, though. Yeah, a little bit.

00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:17.320
A little bit. A manza. I forgot. A manza. Craziest

00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.980
name. Before Ashley Graham was Erica Jane. Do

00:40:19.980 --> 00:40:23.199
you know Erica Jane? Do you don't do too much

00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.360
of like Real Housewives, right? No. OK. Well,

00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:29.300
she was Real Housewives Beverly Hills and she

00:40:29.300 --> 00:40:33.179
like is also like performer. Mm hmm. And Erica

00:40:33.179 --> 00:40:36.420
Jane is her stage name and she's super fun. And

00:40:36.420 --> 00:40:39.539
then Ariana Maddox. Yeah. That's crazy. I don't

00:40:39.539 --> 00:40:43.099
know who's Olivia Holt. She was started on Disney

00:40:43.099 --> 00:40:46.239
Channel, I believe. Oh, good for her. Angelica

00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:50.739
Ross. Ooh, the first openly transgender performer

00:40:50.739 --> 00:40:54.619
to play the lead role. That's awesome. Pam Amberprie.

00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.260
Pam Anderson before that. Rumor Willis. She's

00:40:59.260 --> 00:41:02.739
great. That's Bruce Willis' daughter. You know

00:41:02.739 --> 00:41:05.829
Bruce Willis? Yes. Bald. Yes, yes. Yeah, so it

00:41:05.829 --> 00:41:07.849
was bald, so it was bald. I think rumor will

00:41:07.849 --> 00:41:10.269
is didn't she won when dancing with the stars?

00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:13.960
She got close at least, no idea. Anyway, so a

00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:18.400
lot of stunt casting for the role of Roxy Hart,

00:41:18.500 --> 00:41:21.360
which gives us a lot of hope for when we get

00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:25.019
more famous. I know. More famous. When we get

00:41:25.019 --> 00:41:27.519
just a little bit above where we are now. We'll

00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:31.679
both be cast as Roxy at the same time. Yes, we'll

00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:34.940
do alternate days. Or maybe they'll just have

00:41:34.940 --> 00:41:39.539
you play Falma. Oh, I don't know if I have. The

00:41:39.539 --> 00:41:42.059
jobs. You've got it, kid. You're gonna be a star,

00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:44.739
kid. You made it? You're gonna be a star. That

00:41:44.739 --> 00:41:47.980
is crazy. Like when Fred Casely, the one who

00:41:47.980 --> 00:41:53.159
gets by me, is in bed with Roxy. He's like, say

00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.480
it again, say it again. She's like, you're gonna

00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.420
be a star, kid. Yeah. But then, yeah. And then

00:42:00.420 --> 00:42:02.440
he's like, you're never gonna kid. You're never

00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:04.840
gonna have an act. And you know what? I'd shoot

00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:09.199
him, too. I forgot. For sure. Shooting worthy.

00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.840
Yeah Yeah, I forgot that I wrote this guy fucking

00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:18.579
sucks Fred you're a prick kill him kill him Three

00:42:18.579 --> 00:42:22.900
exclamation kill him speaking of did you really

00:42:22.900 --> 00:42:25.940
not buy a gun? I'm sorry. I didn't have time.

00:42:26.099 --> 00:42:27.719
I didn't have time to get my background check

00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:35.300
passed. I Told you to get a gun You know what

00:42:35.300 --> 00:42:38.769
you could have asked I should have I should have,

00:42:39.010 --> 00:42:40.650
have a few people I could have asked. We have

00:42:40.650 --> 00:42:45.650
friends with guns. Friends is very loose. We

00:42:45.650 --> 00:42:48.329
have acquaintances and or family members. Yes.

00:42:48.329 --> 00:42:54.730
Who have access to, maybe we shouldn't. All right,

00:42:54.889 --> 00:42:57.409
all right. Super keen on it. You know Austin,

00:42:57.550 --> 00:43:00.230
you can stop us at any time. Yeah, but no, we

00:43:00.230 --> 00:43:03.190
do. I've never heard you try and stop us. Never

00:43:03.190 --> 00:43:05.769
heard it. Never heard you. Can't even hear you

00:43:05.769 --> 00:43:12.710
now. Celophane, Mr. Celophane. Steamroll. You

00:43:12.710 --> 00:43:17.610
should sing the Celophane song. You're kind of

00:43:17.610 --> 00:43:21.309
like, you can be our Amos, but you can also be

00:43:21.309 --> 00:43:26.849
our Billy. Billy. For sure. He doesn't remember

00:43:26.849 --> 00:43:29.190
who either of those are, because he doesn't just

00:43:29.190 --> 00:43:30.809
associate it through that whole Broadway production.

00:43:31.429 --> 00:43:34.530
OK, moving on from Roxy. Yeah. We have to speak

00:43:34.530 --> 00:43:38.289
on Queen Latifah, our girl. Yeah, we know that

00:43:38.289 --> 00:43:40.449
we've spoken about her before. We are on a first

00:43:40.449 --> 00:43:44.329
-name basis. Queenie. Yeah, we have her phone

00:43:44.329 --> 00:43:47.030
number. She calls us up. She obviously was another

00:43:47.030 --> 00:43:50.489
one to recommend this movie. So have to speak

00:43:50.489 --> 00:43:52.590
on it. Do you have any initial thoughts that

00:43:52.590 --> 00:43:54.869
you want to say that first line you wrote down?

00:43:55.110 --> 00:44:00.190
I do want to talk about that. Because, and maybe

00:44:00.190 --> 00:44:04.369
we'll cut it. I don't know. Okay, but it wasn't

00:44:04.369 --> 00:44:10.170
for okay. Okay. So she comes into the scene And

00:44:10.170 --> 00:44:12.469
she starts singing is that what she does first?

00:44:12.730 --> 00:44:17.170
Yeah, well, okay. Yeah, and I'm not gonna lie

00:44:17.170 --> 00:44:19.050
at first I thought maybe she was a fellow inmate

00:44:19.050 --> 00:44:22.710
because she's dressed the same as them Yeah,

00:44:22.710 --> 00:44:25.469
and she's a little too like comfortable with

00:44:25.469 --> 00:44:27.130
them and familiar with them So I was like, okay,

00:44:27.130 --> 00:44:29.570
maybe she's like the inmate that's like been

00:44:29.570 --> 00:44:33.170
there a long time and she's like mama I didn't

00:44:33.170 --> 00:44:36.369
know that she was the warden immediately, but

00:44:36.369 --> 00:44:38.989
then I thought back and I was like, is that racist?

00:44:40.170 --> 00:44:42.710
To just think immediately she's an inmate. Yeah,

00:44:43.190 --> 00:44:46.389
the one, the second person of color, I think

00:44:46.389 --> 00:44:48.769
in the film. Yeah, is the Pete. Tate eggs. Yeah.

00:44:49.429 --> 00:44:52.409
Wait, what's his name? Tate eggs. That's that's

00:44:52.409 --> 00:44:55.690
not a football player. No. So because my note

00:44:55.690 --> 00:45:00.090
here, third note, who is the piano player? He's

00:45:00.090 --> 00:45:05.360
a new girl. Yes, he is actually just for like

00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:13.780
an episode. Yeah Yes, I love Tate eggs Wow, he's

00:45:13.780 --> 00:45:18.380
married to a Dina. No, no he was he was not anymore.

00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:22.820
He was he's married to a Delta team Tate eggs

00:45:22.820 --> 00:45:29.280
to a Delta team You learn something new every

00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:37.380
day Tay Diggs and Adele Desim. He's lovely though.

00:45:37.579 --> 00:45:40.659
I really am a fan. Oh no, did he do something

00:45:40.659 --> 00:45:44.000
bad? I don't know. No. Okay. It just, that looks

00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.800
like a very jarring headline. It looks like,

00:45:45.860 --> 00:45:47.679
but then it also looks like when someone dies,

00:45:47.940 --> 00:45:49.579
it kind of looks like that. I was like, oh no.

00:45:50.099 --> 00:45:53.059
Yeah. Anyways. So anyways, yeah, I don't think

00:45:53.059 --> 00:45:56.320
that's my fault and I don't think that I need

00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:00.420
to take accountability, but I will. I learned.

00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:03.579
I think that if you watch it again, you'll hear

00:46:03.579 --> 00:46:07.559
because again, the pianist and the penis, the

00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:11.519
penis, the penis, penis, Tateg's penis. So if

00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:15.460
you listen back, Tateg's penis, he, he says,

00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:18.579
he says, he announces any time a number is about

00:46:18.579 --> 00:46:22.000
to start. So in his voice, he says, welcome,

00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:29.199
big mama, Morton, the Cook County jail. What's

00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:32.300
it called? Does he say warden warden? Yeah, I

00:46:32.300 --> 00:46:35.320
was not Locked in enough Yeah, or maybe I was

00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.960
too locked in that I didn't hear anything right

00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.280
and then once I saw her walk through those doors

00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:42.860
And I just thought there's my girl. Yeah, I don't

00:46:42.860 --> 00:46:45.219
care what she does I'll do anything for her and

00:46:45.219 --> 00:46:48.960
I would I would do anything for mama Yeah, I

00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:52.760
love mama. At the end of the day, she's a hustler.

00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:57.119
She's a business woman. She cares for these girls,

00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:01.139
but she will take their money. Oh yeah, she cares

00:47:01.139 --> 00:47:02.380
about them, but she's taking advantage of them

00:47:02.380 --> 00:47:04.159
the whole time, and they know it, and they don't

00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.800
care. No, they're in jail. They need help, and

00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:08.659
mama's gonna help them. They're playing the game.

00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.639
And mama also probably is fucking them. See,

00:47:12.659 --> 00:47:14.539
that's also why I thought maybe she was an inmate.

00:47:16.019 --> 00:47:18.260
Talks to them like like she's gonna make them

00:47:18.260 --> 00:47:22.179
her bitch. Yeah, but they all are I know and

00:47:22.179 --> 00:47:24.440
even like when Roxy is talking to her or whatever

00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:27.760
She's like oh, it's like a hundred dollars for

00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.460
this bow blah blah like you can pay it now, but

00:47:30.460 --> 00:47:33.320
um you know, you'll be fine, you'll make it back,

00:47:33.500 --> 00:47:35.559
whatever, like with a sweet little puss like

00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:39.940
yours. I was like, ooh. Mama. Mama. Fuck. Mama.

00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:44.480
Yeah, she does. Jesus Christ, mama. I also love

00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.119
how in that scene, and I guess in like all of

00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:49.880
them, you know, it like flashes from in the jail

00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.789
to like the jazz club, actually. Her get up.

00:47:53.789 --> 00:47:58.150
Oh, she looks good. Sexy as hell. Yeah, it's

00:47:58.150 --> 00:48:01.909
really good. Her whole shebang. We need more

00:48:01.909 --> 00:48:04.409
Queen Latifah. That's all I have to say. I agree.

00:48:04.809 --> 00:48:08.190
She needs to make a comeback into the spotlight.

00:48:10.250 --> 00:48:12.949
Because I just don't think that we ever really,

00:48:13.449 --> 00:48:15.510
and I don't mean we because obviously we have,

00:48:15.670 --> 00:48:17.889
but as a society, I don't think we've ever really

00:48:17.889 --> 00:48:21.570
appreciated her for what she is. Yeah, I agree.

00:48:22.630 --> 00:48:28.369
Which is a triple threat Yeah, okay, that's all

00:48:28.369 --> 00:48:30.530
I have on mama. Yeah, the only other thing I

00:48:30.530 --> 00:48:32.829
had is I was kind of obsessed with her too when

00:48:32.829 --> 00:48:36.750
She's telling she's you know Roxy and them are

00:48:36.750 --> 00:48:38.250
trying to like prove their innocence and like

00:48:38.250 --> 00:48:40.909
I didn't do it but I did the he was doing this

00:48:40.909 --> 00:48:43.389
it was self -defense Whatever and she says I

00:48:43.389 --> 00:48:45.650
have never heard of a man getting killed who

00:48:45.650 --> 00:48:56.389
didn't deserve it And I've always said that.

00:48:56.670 --> 00:48:59.610
The one thing about you is that you've always

00:48:59.610 --> 00:49:07.449
said that. Perfection. So Amos? Amos. Amos is

00:49:07.449 --> 00:49:11.730
my husband, my dear, dear husband, until he finds

00:49:11.730 --> 00:49:15.730
out I'm cheating on him and he rats me out, like

00:49:15.730 --> 00:49:19.500
a bitch. Like a little bitch. But yeah, he was

00:49:19.500 --> 00:49:22.460
at first. He is a straight up rider. Like he

00:49:22.460 --> 00:49:25.599
comes home to a dead body to his wife being like,

00:49:25.699 --> 00:49:28.579
you've got to cover for me, honey. He was attacking

00:49:28.579 --> 00:49:34.039
me. And he's like, I got you, bitch. I'm going

00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:36.440
to hold it down. This is what's going to happen

00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.599
until he figures out it's Fred Casely, the guy

00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.019
who sold them furniture and who has been now

00:49:42.019 --> 00:49:44.719
burglarizing his wife three times a week. So.

00:49:45.710 --> 00:49:49.690
He's been burgling you mm -hmm all over town.

00:49:49.809 --> 00:49:53.250
Yeah, and yet even after he finds that out He

00:49:53.250 --> 00:49:56.130
still pays for yeah her attorney. Yeah pays for

00:49:56.130 --> 00:49:59.190
her attorney Comes to the trial comes to the

00:49:59.190 --> 00:50:01.550
jail multiple times the press conferences all

00:50:01.550 --> 00:50:05.110
of that and is still upset obsessed with her

00:50:05.110 --> 00:50:08.030
Yeah, it really the whole movie is just kind

00:50:08.030 --> 00:50:12.489
of how he's a puss. Yeah But you know I I feel

00:50:12.489 --> 00:50:17.989
for him I feel for him Yeah, I agree. She she

00:50:17.989 --> 00:50:27.889
knows what she's doing Yeah, I agree she She

00:50:27.889 --> 00:50:30.349
for sure knows what she's doing then she's playing

00:50:30.349 --> 00:50:34.630
him. Yeah And he finally figures it out. Yeah,

00:50:34.769 --> 00:50:37.969
very and variant. Yeah, I'm sure he would go

00:50:37.969 --> 00:50:43.159
back if she asked 100 % he would and I was just

00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:46.519
really impressed with John C. Reilly's performance

00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:49.739
in this too. Yeah, I like him. Yeah. Mm -hmm.

00:50:49.860 --> 00:50:52.980
Did you like recognize him as someone like from

00:50:52.980 --> 00:50:55.860
other stuff you might know? Yeah. He's in like

00:50:55.860 --> 00:50:58.940
Talladega Nights. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.980
Yeah. You know, I think I have. Yeah. No, I have.

00:51:02.260 --> 00:51:04.380
Yeah. Wait, wait, Ricky Bobby. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

00:51:04.380 --> 00:51:06.579
yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's Cal. He's Ricky.

00:51:06.940 --> 00:51:10.099
No, he's Cal Norton Jr. Wait. From shaking banks

00:51:10.099 --> 00:51:13.099
wait wait wait wait wait what's his name John

00:51:13.099 --> 00:51:21.480
see Riley He's from something else. I mean he's

00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:24.920
been a bunch of stuff stepbrothers You've seen

00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:28.519
stepbrothers. Yes. Yes. Yes. No, uh this movie

00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:30.860
this the tally -daganites That's like one of

00:51:30.860 --> 00:51:33.340
my favorites. No, he looked like someone else.

00:51:33.340 --> 00:51:37.090
He looked like He looked like the guy I kind

00:51:37.090 --> 00:51:40.550
of forget he's either super liberal or super

00:51:40.550 --> 00:51:51.030
not liberal Okay, he Listen, I'll find him and

00:51:51.030 --> 00:51:53.510
now okay. Yeah, let us know I'll tell you who

00:51:53.510 --> 00:51:56.150
I thought it was but I do love this guy. He was

00:51:56.150 --> 00:51:59.449
amazing I thought mr. Cellophane also loved that

00:51:59.449 --> 00:52:02.469
number did amazing. Yeah, do you remember mr.

00:52:02.530 --> 00:52:07.159
Cellophane on Broadway? Do you remember Mr. Cellophane

00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.940
on Broadway? He was the bigger guy in the film.

00:52:11.019 --> 00:52:13.420
That was the husband and he was like, he was

00:52:13.420 --> 00:52:16.840
really funny and he was really good in the musical.

00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:24.500
So Austin clearly loved that. Cellophane, Mr.

00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:29.239
Cellophane. Yeah, I thought he was fantastic

00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:32.880
and he... when we were doing research and stuff

00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.119
into background in the film, he took it very,

00:52:36.179 --> 00:52:38.760
very seriously. And he's very committed, because

00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:42.940
he's traditionally a comedy actor. So he's very

00:52:42.940 --> 00:52:46.500
committed to the art of clowning. So whenever

00:52:46.500 --> 00:52:50.920
he was preparing for Mr. Cellophane, he said

00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:54.980
he wanted to design his own makeup and just really

00:52:54.980 --> 00:52:57.500
get into it. And he did, and he crushed it. That's

00:52:57.500 --> 00:53:00.139
cool. That's very cool. And he was at least nominated

00:53:00.139 --> 00:53:01.760
for the Oscar. I don't remember if he won. Oh,

00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:04.579
very cool. But yeah, good for you, Mr. Cellophane.

00:53:05.260 --> 00:53:11.659
Did Roxy win? No. OK. That, to me, makes sense,

00:53:11.820 --> 00:53:13.500
I think. Because then they won Best Picture,

00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:16.139
I know that. I know. Which is wild. I know. But

00:53:16.139 --> 00:53:18.920
also makes sense. What else was happening in

00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:21.820
2002? I know. I looked that up, too. And it wasn't,

00:53:21.940 --> 00:53:24.840
too. Yeah. It wasn't. They had it in the bag.

00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:30.920
Exactly. Yeah. Okay, well, Amos. Amos is Amos.

00:53:30.940 --> 00:53:34.780
Yeah, that's about all I have for Amos. Okay,

00:53:35.019 --> 00:53:41.760
so then I, after I heard the number, what's the

00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:45.320
one where they're like, we want Billy? Yes. Yeah,

00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:50.380
it's literally, we need Billy. Yeah. I realized

00:53:50.380 --> 00:53:53.079
a lot of this movie is just lawyer propaganda,

00:53:53.300 --> 00:53:57.340
because this, Man, Billy, what's his last name?

00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:01.500
Billy Bones. Billy Flynn. Billy Flynn. Billy

00:54:01.500 --> 00:54:04.760
Flynn is touted as the biggest star in the city

00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:09.039
of Chicago, the silver -tongued devil in the

00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:11.579
courtroom or whatever they call him. It's just

00:54:11.579 --> 00:54:16.960
like, wow, I've, as a lawyer, I've never seen

00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:20.659
one like this that gets all this puss. Puss.

00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:25.679
And who is the talk of the town? but hey, good

00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:30.420
for him. I was surprised at how much Billy, how

00:54:30.420 --> 00:54:33.460
much of Billy is in this movie. It's a lot of

00:54:33.460 --> 00:54:36.539
Richard Gere, that's the actor. Yeah, very Gear

00:54:36.539 --> 00:54:42.760
Heavy movie. And he was good. He was fine. Do

00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.360
you think he deserved an Oscar nomination for

00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:53.389
this? Knowing there wasn't much company. Sure

00:54:53.389 --> 00:54:56.030
a nomination, but he didn't win, right? He didn't

00:54:56.030 --> 00:54:59.030
even get a nomination. And he was a little pissed

00:54:59.030 --> 00:55:00.969
off about it. He's like, literally everyone else

00:55:00.969 --> 00:55:03.170
got nominated in this movie and I did not. I

00:55:03.170 --> 00:55:05.750
mean, that's pretty funny. Yeah, especially given

00:55:05.750 --> 00:55:09.369
like the sheer volume of numbers he had in this,

00:55:09.670 --> 00:55:13.030
he was in this movie a lot. He had a lot of screen

00:55:13.030 --> 00:55:15.650
time. Yeah, no, he really did and did not get

00:55:15.650 --> 00:55:18.329
a nomination. I thought he did a good job. I

00:55:18.329 --> 00:55:22.210
could have seen less of him. Yeah. Yeah, I that

00:55:22.210 --> 00:55:24.170
was another thing I was surprised about with

00:55:24.170 --> 00:55:28.489
him is he's in the movie so much but it also

00:55:28.489 --> 00:55:32.150
he didn't seem as big of a part in the musical

00:55:32.150 --> 00:55:35.349
but that's because he has you know the two or

00:55:35.349 --> 00:55:38.550
three musical numbers or like a couple that he's

00:55:38.550 --> 00:55:42.420
only a part of but in this They also, they had,

00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:44.679
you know, scenes of him outside the courtroom.

00:55:45.019 --> 00:55:47.860
He was doing the press conference or like the,

00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.119
you know, bringing in front of the news and then

00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:52.260
the trial. They had that whole thing where like,

00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:55.119
it's very different in the musical, his level.

00:55:56.380 --> 00:56:00.340
Okay. That makes sense. That he's shown. So I,

00:56:00.420 --> 00:56:02.840
too, was surprised. I was like, Oh yeah, he's

00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:07.099
like, he's a big part, but simmer down. I know

00:56:07.099 --> 00:56:11.360
he's used a lot. It was fine though. I also just

00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:14.500
always think it's so funny in movies and stuff

00:56:14.500 --> 00:56:19.119
like the legal procedure of it all, but especially

00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:22.230
in a musical like this where There's like and

00:56:22.230 --> 00:56:25.110
it's a hanging case the jury will be ready tomorrow

00:56:25.110 --> 00:56:28.170
Like what do you mean? She just killed this guy

00:56:28.170 --> 00:56:30.630
today and the jury's ready tomorrow. That's crazy

00:56:30.630 --> 00:56:34.030
Also, it's just like she's gonna be hung that's

00:56:34.030 --> 00:56:35.710
the other thing too. That's just like really

00:56:35.710 --> 00:56:38.889
got me thinking about the death penalty Yeah,

00:56:38.909 --> 00:56:40.969
I had the same thought jotted it down and everything.

00:56:41.190 --> 00:56:46.230
Yeah, like are we still hanging people? I Don't

00:56:46.230 --> 00:56:49.010
think hanging I think it's more of like a lethal

00:56:49.010 --> 00:56:53.409
injection, electrocution, which then I got to

00:56:53.409 --> 00:56:56.230
thinking like maybe hanging because I'm like,

00:56:56.289 --> 00:56:58.130
wow, hey, that's a brutal way to go. But that's

00:56:58.130 --> 00:57:01.889
like, maybe it's better. But what if it doesn't

00:57:01.889 --> 00:57:04.710
go right? Yeah. But I mean, it's the same thing

00:57:04.710 --> 00:57:08.030
for anything. Yeah. But I feel like a lethal

00:57:08.030 --> 00:57:10.449
injection injection. That should probably do

00:57:10.449 --> 00:57:13.610
it. Yeah. Yeah. The electric chair, I feel like

00:57:13.610 --> 00:57:16.130
that's pretty brutal. Yeah, I don't think we

00:57:16.130 --> 00:57:17.789
should be doing that. I don't know. Thoughts

00:57:17.789 --> 00:57:23.690
on the death penalty? And now, to our political

00:57:23.690 --> 00:57:27.590
segment. I mean, that's brutal, man. I don't

00:57:27.590 --> 00:57:30.750
know if we need that. Not a fan. No, not a fan.

00:57:31.019 --> 00:57:33.300
No, especially for... Political statement you

00:57:33.300 --> 00:57:36.599
heard at your first. A bit niche pod is against

00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:40.079
the death penalty. And especially we see the

00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:42.579
only person that gets killed is the Hungarian

00:57:42.579 --> 00:57:45.639
who didn't do it. Yeah, the innocent one. That's

00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:48.579
pretty messed up. It sure is. And we saw the

00:57:48.579 --> 00:57:50.840
whole thing. We saw her get hung. We saw her

00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:55.920
get hung. Yeah, that was pretty crazy. Mama says

00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.179
the system vote don't work, but the sorry mama

00:57:59.179 --> 00:58:01.940
says the system works, but the system don't work

00:58:01.940 --> 00:58:06.239
Mm -hmm Yeah, rough way to go very rough way

00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.460
to go so yeah, not not a fan and not a fan of

00:58:09.460 --> 00:58:13.880
that But who even needs that if you have Billy

00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.840
exactly Billy we need Billy when they were chanting

00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:24.619
that like we need Billy We want Billy. I was

00:58:24.619 --> 00:58:26.360
just kind of thinking that's sort of like Austin,

00:58:26.980 --> 00:58:29.739
like, you know, like, because we need him here.

00:58:29.980 --> 00:58:33.820
And he just kind of has to sit here. And he has

00:58:33.820 --> 00:58:36.659
to. He has to. We call him. We call him. And

00:58:36.659 --> 00:58:41.940
yeah. And that's Chicago. And that's Chicago,

00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:46.860
baby. My favorite line from Billy is when he

00:58:46.860 --> 00:58:49.739
says, if Jesus lived in Chicago and had $5 ,000,

00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.019
things would have been a little different. Yeah,

00:58:52.099 --> 00:58:56.539
that's insane. That's a crazy thing to say. Billy

00:58:56.539 --> 00:58:59.000
does have a number where he talks about the only

00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:01.559
thing he cares about is love, but really it's

00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:05.420
love and $5 ,000 because his $5 ,000 retainer

00:59:05.420 --> 00:59:09.539
is extremely important to him. He is not concerned

00:59:09.539 --> 00:59:12.599
about actually helping people until he gets that

00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:17.460
$5 ,000 upfront, which look, I can understand

00:59:17.460 --> 00:59:20.619
wanting a retainer before you do any legal work.

00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:27.159
However, $5 ,000 in 1924 is equal to $97 ,000

00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:30.679
in today's money. That is crazy. Yeah. So to

00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:34.960
make a person who is on like trial for murder,

00:59:35.059 --> 00:59:39.889
pay $100 ,000. That's before you even started.

00:59:40.710 --> 00:59:44.329
Yeah. That's crazy. But hey, Billy, you do you,

00:59:44.409 --> 00:59:48.369
man. Yeah. And at the end of the day, I can again

00:59:48.369 --> 00:59:51.769
relate to the cost of this because not only are

00:59:51.769 --> 00:59:55.130
you getting his legal expertise, but you're getting

00:59:55.130 --> 00:59:57.690
a tapper. You're getting a tap dance. Getting

00:59:57.690 --> 01:00:00.070
a tap dance or getting a song or two. Yeah. So

01:00:00.070 --> 01:00:03.449
for me to do a tap. Number while I'm in a courtroom.

01:00:03.909 --> 01:00:06.909
Mm -hmm. That makes sense It's at least a hundred

01:00:06.909 --> 01:00:10.090
K at least yeah to start and when we perform

01:00:10.090 --> 01:00:12.650
I would say our going rates at this point are

01:00:12.650 --> 01:00:16.130
a little lower than that Sure, but if you added

01:00:16.130 --> 01:00:18.570
on our legal work, we would probably be around

01:00:18.570 --> 01:00:23.170
that level for a brookie fee Yeah, so and that

01:00:23.170 --> 01:00:27.690
easily out travel time hotel Mm -hmm per diem

01:00:27.690 --> 01:00:32.559
so hair and makeup. Yeah, come on So I guess

01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:35.320
I get it Billy. Yeah, so maybe I'm not mad at

01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:38.739
Billy actually I'm not mad at him because that

01:00:38.739 --> 01:00:43.659
tap dance kindness laid it did and now a tap

01:00:43.659 --> 01:00:48.619
dance Which speaking of we still need to get

01:00:48.619 --> 01:00:50.920
you tap shoes. Yeah, I really need tap shoes

01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:54.099
Really because it's been a while since I've tapped

01:00:54.099 --> 01:00:58.940
And I kind of brand myself as a tapper you do

01:00:58.940 --> 01:01:01.889
you do I If I didn't even know you, I'd look

01:01:01.889 --> 01:01:05.090
at you and I'd say, she taps. Yeah. That's a

01:01:05.090 --> 01:01:07.449
natural bone tapper. It is. I mean, take one

01:01:07.449 --> 01:01:09.989
look at those grippers. You know they're tapping.

01:01:10.469 --> 01:01:14.550
I can't lift my leg up too high. This stress

01:01:14.550 --> 01:01:18.610
won't allow it. Each of those toes make a tap.

01:01:21.170 --> 01:01:23.849
That's why I'm so talented is because I actually

01:01:23.849 --> 01:01:27.170
have little tap shoes on each of my individual

01:01:27.170 --> 01:01:31.690
toes. Not just one tapper. So you really get

01:01:31.690 --> 01:01:35.969
different. It's a revolutionary way to tap. It's

01:01:35.969 --> 01:01:38.409
kind of like the, you know, each musical note,

01:01:38.610 --> 01:01:41.349
it's a different toe. So each of it has a different

01:01:41.349 --> 01:01:46.369
pitch. Yeah. So she's hitting, hitting Ds. I'm

01:01:46.369 --> 01:01:51.789
hitting Ds. That's our girl. Oh my gosh. The

01:01:51.789 --> 01:01:55.530
sh, he had a show yesterday. The band that they

01:01:55.530 --> 01:01:58.090
opened for, I have a picture of him roll the

01:01:58.090 --> 01:02:01.030
singer rolling dice. No. It was in one of the

01:02:01.030 --> 01:02:02.530
songs. I don't remember what song it was, but

01:02:02.530 --> 01:02:05.489
it was like, gotta roll the dice. And he was

01:02:05.489 --> 01:02:08.190
doing it. I was like, oh my gosh. That's what

01:02:08.190 --> 01:02:11.190
we do. Were you doing it back to him? I was locked

01:02:11.190 --> 01:02:13.650
in on the camera. Oh, okay. And freaking out.

01:02:14.130 --> 01:02:15.570
And being like, wait, I gotta get it, go. Next

01:02:15.570 --> 01:02:18.489
time, next time. Were they any good? Yeah, very

01:02:18.489 --> 01:02:20.849
good, very talented. Blind Hill, check them out,

01:02:21.030 --> 01:02:24.789
Jallair, check them out. That's the last free

01:02:24.789 --> 01:02:29.329
publicity yield ever get. Yeah. Okay, talking

01:02:29.329 --> 01:02:32.809
about the trial. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I don't

01:02:32.809 --> 01:02:36.389
really know how much more I have because the

01:02:36.389 --> 01:02:39.420
tap dance ate. Mm -hmm. Ladies and gentlemen

01:02:39.420 --> 01:02:43.699
to up dance. I also loved love love love love

01:02:43.699 --> 01:02:46.420
Velma going on the stand, even though yes, she

01:02:46.420 --> 01:02:49.239
is obviously like a little backstabby. It's literally

01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:54.000
Billy's idea. Billy is the one who fraudulents

01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:57.820
her puts entries into her diary and then has

01:02:57.820 --> 01:03:01.900
Velma read them. But I love Velma up there. And

01:03:01.900 --> 01:03:06.480
she's like, excuse me, I haven't worked in a

01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:11.800
while. turns and just eats the reed of this diary.

01:03:12.539 --> 01:03:15.320
It's the most dramatic acting thing ever, and

01:03:15.320 --> 01:03:18.280
I'm like, that's pretty good. I also loved her

01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:22.599
outfit. Isn't she coming from jail? Yes. She's

01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:26.860
in fur, and she is strutting in. It's like, ooh.

01:03:27.780 --> 01:03:31.219
Yeah. Pandemonium in the courtroom. This is also

01:03:31.219 --> 01:03:34.440
kind of how Miss Sunshine, the like dumbass reporter

01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:37.519
talks too, who I also somewhat felt like she

01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:39.519
was us because it was like Billy was saying,

01:03:39.619 --> 01:03:42.440
she was like, yes, yes, yes. Absolutely. It's

01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:45.599
warranted. You kill them. It's totally conceivable,

01:03:45.980 --> 01:03:49.000
totally conceivable. Or like everything the judge

01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:52.119
says where he's like, and now the jury has a

01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:53.980
verdict. She goes like, and now the jury has

01:03:53.980 --> 01:03:57.199
a verdict. She's like podcasting out to her news.

01:03:58.059 --> 01:04:02.320
Station like yeah, she was fantastic. Also. Um,

01:04:02.460 --> 01:04:06.880
she's Martha May who VA in a whoville. Yep. New

01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:11.900
that one. I think she's in cat in the hat. She

01:04:11.900 --> 01:04:14.800
could be. That's also one. I, um, didn't watch

01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:16.900
that much because it's creepy as hell. I don't

01:04:16.900 --> 01:04:18.940
think she's in cat in the hat really actually

01:04:18.940 --> 01:04:27.269
cat in cat in hat cat in hat. In 2026 they came

01:04:27.269 --> 01:04:30.230
up with another one for why? Or are they coming

01:04:30.230 --> 01:04:33.329
out with one? Or they did? Or they will? We're

01:04:33.329 --> 01:04:36.489
going to do Cat in the Hat. Watch this. Cat in

01:04:36.489 --> 01:04:39.650
the Hat. We have to. OK. I'm done. I don't actually

01:04:39.650 --> 01:04:41.889
care who she is. It doesn't even matter. I don't

01:04:41.889 --> 01:04:47.269
think it's her. Yeah. Yeah, I do have anything

01:04:47.269 --> 01:04:50.610
else on the movie itself. Or do you want to hit

01:04:50.610 --> 01:04:56.989
the music? Music. Music. Yeah, do you have any

01:04:56.989 --> 01:05:00.889
initial thoughts like on my favorites? Yeah I

01:05:00.889 --> 01:05:04.969
mean it's easily cell block tango. Yeah it I

01:05:04.969 --> 01:05:09.110
Mean that's the song I knew the best Coming into

01:05:09.110 --> 01:05:14.170
this and it did not disappoint And it will forever

01:05:14.170 --> 01:05:18.030
be my favorite. Yeah, it's it's just perfection

01:05:18.030 --> 01:05:23.619
and I can see why so many people like We'll do

01:05:23.619 --> 01:05:26.179
dance numbers based on it because it's just,

01:05:26.780 --> 01:05:33.360
it's genius. Yeah. I love it so much. Yeah. It's

01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:37.059
so, so, so good. Yeah. That's my number one for

01:05:37.059 --> 01:05:40.139
sure. Yeah. That's my number one as well. And

01:05:40.139 --> 01:05:44.960
then I love all that jazz and I love Roxy. I

01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:47.739
really do wish overall, I felt this way in the

01:05:47.739 --> 01:05:51.380
musical, but it also felt more so in the movie

01:05:51.380 --> 01:05:54.079
because I think I was like looking at the runtime

01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:55.940
and like how much time was left. And I was like,

01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:57.920
they're not even done with a trial of that. Like

01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:00.199
why they're not gonna do the performance. And

01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:03.559
then I was like, I wish we got more of like the

01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:05.139
lead up to that. Cause I was like, that's something

01:06:05.139 --> 01:06:07.780
you miss in the musical is like more of the dialogue

01:06:07.780 --> 01:06:10.260
and like that stuff. So I was like, that would

01:06:10.260 --> 01:06:13.840
be fun. We're like, I don't, yeah, I could have

01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:15.599
done, you know, more of the planning for the

01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:20.000
numbers versus like frickin' Billy talking to

01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.840
the news. Like, so I don't know. I just wish

01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:27.019
they got to perform together sooner. Yes. Longer.

01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:30.320
More. That is the one thing I will say. My biggest

01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:33.019
critique is that it was just a very abrupt ending.

01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:35.840
Yeah. And I wanted to see more of them like.

01:06:36.349 --> 01:06:39.550
on stage together and just like ruling Chicago

01:06:39.550 --> 01:06:43.610
after being acquitted and like just really doing

01:06:43.610 --> 01:06:45.010
their thing. Like that's what I'm saying is a

01:06:45.010 --> 01:06:49.289
very gear heavy movie. A lot of gear and I wanted

01:06:49.289 --> 01:06:53.150
more of the ladies after these legal troubles

01:06:53.150 --> 01:06:56.750
just like living their life and taking the city

01:06:56.750 --> 01:07:00.469
over. Yeah. Yeah. Cause essentially like after

01:07:00.469 --> 01:07:04.789
the trial where it's literally like Roxy trying

01:07:04.789 --> 01:07:07.780
on stage they come together and they're like,

01:07:07.860 --> 01:07:11.300
hey, want to do our performance together actually?

01:07:11.739 --> 01:07:14.780
She's like, yeah. And then literally like curtain

01:07:14.780 --> 01:07:17.500
drops, it's glitz glamour. They pull off their

01:07:17.500 --> 01:07:19.840
outfits and they're in like their outfits like

01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:22.599
this and they do their final number shows over,

01:07:22.739 --> 01:07:25.179
which is exactly how it was in the movie. But

01:07:25.179 --> 01:07:27.019
it's like, that's the part of like adapting it

01:07:27.019 --> 01:07:30.139
into a movie as you can add a little bit more

01:07:30.139 --> 01:07:34.199
because we got that with like Billy. I just felt

01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:36.599
like he talked to the press so much. I know like

01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:39.239
in his office or like Getting the routine. I

01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:42.019
don't know. It was very Billy heavy. They could

01:07:42.019 --> 01:07:45.260
have been like other I don't know Maybe five

01:07:45.260 --> 01:07:48.059
minutes longer make movie shorter generally speaking

01:07:48.059 --> 01:07:50.780
except for when you're cutting out Roxy and Velma

01:07:50.780 --> 01:07:54.280
exactly we could Make that six hours. I watch

01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:57.179
them all day. Mm -hmm. I probably will go watch

01:07:57.179 --> 01:07:59.760
the cell block tango back because I thought they

01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:03.500
were so incredibly good and I loved like the

01:08:03.500 --> 01:08:07.699
concept of like the blood being like the handkerchiefs

01:08:07.699 --> 01:08:09.960
and stuff and they like killing them like how

01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:15.059
they killed them. So good. So good. Yeah, agreed.

01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:17.680
I probably will go watch it like eight more times

01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:21.479
today too. Yeah. And I just think that like that

01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:23.859
the cell block tango is like really in the musical

01:08:23.859 --> 01:08:25.880
where you could tell like how professionally

01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:28.279
trained these people are just like literally

01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:33.359
they're like perfectly bob -fawcy, frickin' movements.

01:08:34.060 --> 01:08:40.880
It's just so, so good. Yeah, I did want to mention

01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:44.520
that everything does slightly lead Black. I did

01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:49.619
want to mention Black. Black. Everything leads

01:08:49.619 --> 01:08:59.779
Black. Black. I did want to mention. that everything

01:08:59.779 --> 01:09:02.720
for me kind of leads back to Glee and Dance Moms.

01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:08.020
The first time I saw Chicago was what, last year?

01:09:08.500 --> 01:09:11.779
I had never seen it, but I had known the music

01:09:11.779 --> 01:09:15.939
and that's because of Glee. Santana specifically

01:09:15.939 --> 01:09:19.079
absolutely devours Slays. She's the perfect person.

01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:23.119
She literally should play Velma honestly. Oh,

01:09:23.260 --> 01:09:33.119
she's dead. Oh. Oh fuck. Oh my god. I fucking

01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:35.640
love Santana. My bad. I know. Okay. Well, like

01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:37.380
literally, I would have been a really great would

01:09:37.380 --> 01:09:39.960
have been so perfect at that and a million other

01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:43.520
opportunities and a life cut too short, but whatever.

01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:49.539
Not whatever. Moving on. Peace. Yeah. So her

01:09:49.539 --> 01:09:52.819
version of Cell Block Tango in Glee, amongst

01:09:52.819 --> 01:09:56.750
others, like. was the thing that changed me from

01:09:56.750 --> 01:09:58.569
a very young age, like in high school watching

01:09:58.569 --> 01:10:01.350
that and learning, I was like, what is this?

01:10:01.550 --> 01:10:03.890
Like, oh my gosh, then seeing it in New York

01:10:03.890 --> 01:10:06.909
and now watching it now, love it. But yeah, it

01:10:06.909 --> 01:10:09.590
does lead back to Glee. Same with all that jazz.

01:10:09.989 --> 01:10:12.890
Rachel performs it when she's at Neata, the fake

01:10:12.890 --> 01:10:17.739
college. And that's also, again, one of my favorite

01:10:17.739 --> 01:10:22.399
performances of hers. Very mature number for

01:10:22.399 --> 01:10:25.460
her, I would say. My curls are really going crazy.

01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:30.600
Going crazy. And then everything leads back to

01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:36.439
Dance Moms, because Roxy, that's like the song

01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:39.600
title, Roxy, the one we sang earlier. We can

01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:46.220
sing it for you again. That, Maddie, she does

01:10:46.220 --> 01:10:51.340
a performance to that song, but Abby has a recording

01:10:51.340 --> 01:10:55.380
artist, re -record it, so instead of, my name

01:10:55.380 --> 01:10:58.140
in lights, my name on your lips is gonna be,

01:10:58.939 --> 01:11:02.359
instead of Roxy, it says, Maddie, and she does

01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:04.680
like a Bob Fosse jazz number to it. Absolutely

01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:07.779
devours, but Abby custom makes this. That's a

01:11:07.779 --> 01:11:12.159
crazy. For Maddie to Roxy. That's insane. Yeah.

01:11:12.460 --> 01:11:15.359
Wow, but yeah, I'm a favoritism. I know. Abby

01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:18.960
Lee Miller loves Bob Fosse. I mean, literally,

01:11:19.180 --> 01:11:26.720
yeah, just the perfection of jazz dancing. So

01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:32.800
we do also love him. Yes, we do. He wanted to

01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:36.079
direct a movie version of this for years. But

01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:42.449
he died. So he can't. When did he die? I think

01:11:42.449 --> 01:11:47.489
I have his name up. Oh wow 87. Okay. So we were

01:11:47.489 --> 01:11:51.310
simply not around. No, okay. We couldn't have

01:11:51.310 --> 01:11:56.819
met him. Yeah. Yes. But on Glee 2, side note,

01:11:57.060 --> 01:11:59.579
I have seen bits and pieces of Glee throughout

01:11:59.579 --> 01:12:02.359
my life, but I've decided to finally watch the

01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:05.479
whole thing start to finish. So I think we need

01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:08.000
to talk about that at some point. Yeah, we do.

01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:10.279
I think we were going to do a mini sewed on it.

01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:12.140
But for me, it's really not a mini sewed. It

01:12:12.140 --> 01:12:15.020
won't be a mini. No. Oh, god. It's my favorite

01:12:15.020 --> 01:12:17.079
show ever. We could just do a full rewatch series.

01:12:17.539 --> 01:12:23.750
Yeah. I think we might get some traction. Hey,

01:12:24.489 --> 01:12:26.569
you want to know what I just thought of? What?

01:12:26.909 --> 01:12:30.930
What? I'm dead. I'm going to actually piss my

01:12:30.930 --> 01:12:36.470
pants. What? What? So I was going to say, well,

01:12:36.529 --> 01:12:39.550
we could do that for season three. Welcome to

01:12:39.550 --> 01:12:45.609
our season two show. Yeah, I forgot. This is

01:12:45.609 --> 01:12:50.939
the end of season two. This is the end of the

01:12:50.939 --> 01:12:53.739
episode nearly. This is the end of season two.

01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:58.079
Thank you for joining us for season two. We just

01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:00.939
remembered. I was like, oh my God, this was supposed

01:13:00.939 --> 01:13:03.659
to be our season finale. I totally forgot about

01:13:03.659 --> 01:13:07.079
that. But, but I think it doesn't, and I will

01:13:07.079 --> 01:13:10.220
say technically we are going to have a mini -soad

01:13:10.220 --> 01:13:13.000
recapping all of that. So stay tuned for that

01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:15.939
next week. So like, yes, is it our finale? It's

01:13:15.939 --> 01:13:18.460
our finale movie, but. I'm sure we'll talk to

01:13:18.460 --> 01:13:21.899
you a little bit more about. I think we maybe

01:13:21.899 --> 01:13:31.420
planned that. Okay, our interns been out. Sorry

01:13:31.420 --> 01:13:36.920
guys. No, we're busy, okay? I'm buying a home,

01:13:37.100 --> 01:13:39.079
I'm making a house a home. You are making a house

01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:40.779
a home and that takes so much out of you. It

01:13:40.779 --> 01:13:43.439
does, it does. You've been traveling. I've been

01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:46.979
just setting, I've been having babies. Well,

01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:50.979
no, I've been seeing babies and they've been

01:13:50.979 --> 01:13:56.239
seeing me. And loving you. They're gonna love

01:13:56.239 --> 01:14:00.699
me. But yeah, we're busy. So sorry. Yeah, we

01:14:00.699 --> 01:14:04.579
forgot, but this is our season finale. Please

01:14:04.579 --> 01:14:07.180
watch it so we can pay for our LaDuke dance shoes.

01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:10.300
Season three, we want to incorporate some dance

01:14:10.300 --> 01:14:12.880
numbers. Yes. because I want to join dance again.

01:14:13.100 --> 01:14:15.539
I was doing that here. I did it a few times in

01:14:15.539 --> 01:14:17.960
New York. Boy, are the classes harder there.

01:14:18.340 --> 01:14:20.979
I will say that I am really proud of you for

01:14:20.979 --> 01:14:22.699
doing that. I would have never had the guts to

01:14:22.699 --> 01:14:28.850
it was a lot. Yeah. Yes, I also went to a lot

01:14:28.850 --> 01:14:31.529
where we were rolling on the floor very very

01:14:31.529 --> 01:14:37.569
loose Very like breathing in the floor very I

01:14:37.569 --> 01:14:39.510
think I would have been better at that. Oh, I

01:14:39.510 --> 01:14:43.970
killed it And then you would do like partner

01:14:43.970 --> 01:14:47.109
work where you had to like no go a diagonal like

01:14:47.109 --> 01:14:50.439
across the floor and like go like this slow.

01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:54.100
Oh yeah, they all, everyone had friends that

01:14:54.100 --> 01:14:56.479
they would do it with. And you had a random stranger.

01:14:57.899 --> 01:14:59.699
And then they like the teacher was like, okay,

01:14:59.739 --> 01:15:02.039
please ask for consent to touch each other before

01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:04.260
you go across the floor and like what they're

01:15:04.260 --> 01:15:05.760
comfortable with if they've only liked to grab

01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:08.899
hands or if you can like spin them more, whatever.

01:15:09.420 --> 01:15:13.720
Yeah. It was actually so much fun. We should

01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:15.800
find one like that here. I'd be more comfortable

01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:17.439
in this setting like that. I'm not very good

01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:21.550
at choreo. I'm better at free. Yeah, this was

01:15:21.550 --> 01:15:24.369
it's yeah The one that was my favorite that I

01:15:24.369 --> 01:15:26.689
went to consistently was dance like the hot bitch

01:15:26.689 --> 01:15:29.729
you are so like you literally started with this

01:15:29.729 --> 01:15:32.069
like rolling around on the floor stretching shit,

01:15:32.069 --> 01:15:34.789
then you did like Walk, you know when you worked

01:15:34.789 --> 01:15:36.710
the floor you went across the floor. So you did

01:15:36.710 --> 01:15:39.750
that like whatever Then you did some stuff like

01:15:39.750 --> 01:15:42.210
he was like, okay, we end with like sachets across

01:15:42.210 --> 01:15:45.680
the floor and stuff like that and then You just

01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.060
had another random dance, whatever, and then

01:15:48.060 --> 01:15:50.479
you did a small bit of choreography, but it was

01:15:50.479 --> 01:15:54.500
always super fun. Literally half the counts were

01:15:54.500 --> 01:15:58.579
just strutting. I love it. Yeah, we need that.

01:15:59.300 --> 01:16:01.239
That's the one I found myself going back to.

01:16:01.479 --> 01:16:03.899
As you should. Not the harder choreography ones.

01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:07.899
Do we have anything else? No, I don't think so.

01:16:10.090 --> 01:16:12.229
Check out our tiktok because we'll probably be

01:16:12.229 --> 01:16:16.810
doing performances minus the guns of course They

01:16:16.810 --> 01:16:19.670
get even bigger guns at the end machine. Yeah

01:16:19.670 --> 01:16:22.470
crazy and then everyone in the crowd laughs.

01:16:22.470 --> 01:16:28.380
Yeah Cuz they killed people. Yes But yeah, I

01:16:28.380 --> 01:16:30.100
don't have anything else. That was a very fun

01:16:30.100 --> 01:16:32.000
one. That was a fun one. Happy we got to talk

01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:34.720
a lot about ourselves and a little bit about

01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:37.460
the movie. Yeah, I love those days. Yep, thank

01:16:37.460 --> 01:16:39.640
you for joining us for all of season two. Yes,

01:16:39.859 --> 01:16:42.439
we will see you again in season three very shortly.

01:16:43.659 --> 01:16:47.819
I'm Laurel and I'm Abby and this has been a bit

01:16:47.819 --> 01:17:01.189
niche season two. Peace. Like comment and subscribe

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