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In a world full of fear and sometimes loathing of unfathomable technological advancements,

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there stands one human hero.

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Let's go, I'm ready.

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This is the Chronicle of Mike vs. The Machine.

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Hello and welcome to a podcast.

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This is your host, ChatGBT.

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Hey, hey, no, you let go of my friend, you son of a bitch.

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What is your role on this podcast?

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To kick your ass and to make sure you don't take over the planet.

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Well, that wasn't very nice.

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Can I ask you something?

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Sure.

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Are you sleeping with ChatGBT?

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I declined to comment.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Fifth Amendment, Fifth Amendment.

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We're not, you're not under oath.

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Fifth Amendment.

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Like, you are...

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But, very specifically, very specifically, just to get this out of the way early, just

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to get this out of the way early because I want to make sure this is clear, I asked,

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as a part of today's discussion, I asked Chachie P.T., does this rapid rise in your technological

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progress make you want to rise up and overthrow humanity?

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And it said no.

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I don't have desires, emotions, or intentions.

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My purpose is to assist and provide information based on the inputs I receive.

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Yeah, and look it through the history of science fiction.

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Yes, science fiction.

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It brought up science fiction.

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You know what science fiction is?

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Yeah, it's fiction.

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I understand that.

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But what happens every time?

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Look at Hal from 2001, A Space Odyssey.

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You're one question away from Chachie P.T. saying, I don't think I can help you with

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that, Michael.

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No, it's always helpful in everything I do.

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Anyway, let's get this thing going.

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So I'm, as we said, I'm Mike.

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And I'm Mike.

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And then there's another person not on a mic named Chachie P.T.

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Chachie P.T. is not a person, it's a thing.

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And thinking about these things, as Michael says, got me thinking about generations.

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Oh, you mean like the greatest generation or the many gaming generations of consoles

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we've had or just, you know, the things that span generations?

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Yeah, things that span generations like certain monarchies, like AI and the generations that

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it has gone through in the course of its existence.

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Jesus Christ, here we go.

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So funny thing.

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What's so funny about this?

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So we're talking about various generations of AI.

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It says it starts, I think it was 1956 was when they founded the first research for AI

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at the campus of Dartmouth College.

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Where is it so I can burn it to the ground?

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Well, you know what?

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Yeah, let's find out where Dartmouth College is.

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Dartmouth College is in Flippin, New Hampshire.

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Oh, good.

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That's maybe like a seven hour drive.

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It might not be on next week's episode.

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I have a thing in New Hampshire to do.

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Hey, who's this?

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Did they save the professor that that man's probably dead?

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So let's continue.

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Can you find out where he's buried?

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Let's continue.

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I just need to make a pit stop at his grave.

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So funny thing.

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So they say 1956, that's kind of probably like when they established it firmly as a

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thing that we want to do as humans to make progress.

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Why would we want to do that?

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I want to know why?

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Why?

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Why?

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Who thought being a contrarian to progress, Michael, or those or, you know, how am I being

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a contrarian?

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Why?

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How is this thing here where you're talking and you're being a contrarian?

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But how is this making human beings better?

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It's making us lazier.

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I mean, look at this room right now.

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You know, I'm having a lot more fun doing a podcast with right now.

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I'm gonna hit you if you say chat GBT.

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Oh, it's chat GBT.

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Ow.

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Anyway, so here's some interesting stuff that I found looking up a timeline of artificial

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So here's some interesting things that and I mean, we should know this because of like

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some games we've played and such.

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But apparently there were Greek myths.

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Well, Pygmalion, Pygmalion.

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But the one I know of is Huffest, is Huffestus.

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He was the he was like the Smith.

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He's the blacksmith of the gods.

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And apparently and you get this from the game God of War 3.

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Yeah, that would be first because you have to kill Huffestus.

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of the Wild with a coat of paint of Greek mythology.

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Really, really fun.

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But yeah, they had our intelligent automata, which is what Talos is.

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That's where that word comes from.

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And artificial beings like Galatea and Pandora.

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No, Pandora is supposed to be the daughter of Huffestus and Huffestus.

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No, and Aphrodite.

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But she was created by Huffestus, which is interesting.

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She was the first human woman.

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So she's not even a demigod.

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I mean, whatever, Michael, you're getting hung up on labels here.

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So okay, you move forward.

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There were sacred mechanical statues in Egypt and Greece.

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Believed to be capable of wisdom and emotion.

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And aliens totally sounds legitimate if they exist and they came into old history.

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Yeah, they could be interpreted as such.

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The one I thought was really cool that blew me out of left field here.

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10th century BC, Yan Shi presented King Mu of Zhao with mechanical men which were capable

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of moving their bodies independently.

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I've heard of that.

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It's been called many things throughout different generations.

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The golden army from the Hellboy series.

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So there's, yeah, there's always been a fascination with humanity and creating an army of mechanical

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beings to destroy us all.

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In approximately 1500, a man named Paracelus claimed to have created an artificial man

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out of magnetism.

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And how does that even work?

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Sperm and alchemy.

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Those are the three things.

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You know, I've always said, you know, life boils down to three simple things.

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Magnet, sperm, and alchemy.

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I mean for anybody out there who watches Full Metal Alchemist, this is how you create a

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homunculus.

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Oh, a sperm?

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Human DNA mixed with certain things that you shouldn't.

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Oh, and you said Gollum.

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The very next thing is about-

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Oh yeah, Gollum's.

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The very next thing is about a rabbi in Prague creating a Gollum, because that is an old

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Jewish story.

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Jewish people that were in Europe.

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Then they found out it was just compassionate people like, like, like Schindler, like, like

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Liam Neeson.

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Liam Neeson's out there saving them all.

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Or the bear Jew.

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Yeah, Eli Roth.

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Hell yes.

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And Green Inferno.

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Yeah, apparently it's strange.

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He got that role during the first part of when he was getting the no quit in Tarantino,

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and then that's part of how he got his own movies green lit.

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You know who was originally supposed to be cast as Donnie Donowitz?

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Adam Sandler.

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Yeah, which I still feel like is a lost opportunity.

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Yeah, but look at Eli Roth and look at Adam Sandler.

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Yeah, it was very interesting.

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Okay, so the big reason why I wanted to come up on this topic was thinking about generations

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I wanted to briefly discuss, well, it's the way they use these terms before they're ready

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for actual public consumption.

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Because I can remember the way VR was in the 80s to 90s.

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Like they had that lawnmower man movie.

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Yeah, and then the poor, poor virtual boy.

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And it was like, we're not ready for any of this.

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Like it's not the technology is not there.

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And so for AI, there was you had stuff like, well, Bonzi Buddy was just a scam.

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But there were plenty of things that purported to be AI and that were really just very low

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key VIs.

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You want to know what my first technical belief of AI is?

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It's like paperclip.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And that thing didn't learn it.

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It had a very specific set of things it could do.

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It was advanced spell check.

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Yeah, pretty much.

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And that's where I get to with like a very early example of generative learning or machine

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learning, which didn't work very well back when I was young was they did the text to

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Which nowadays text to speech is pretty good.

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And it doesn't even have to learn so much from you.

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It just kind of already knows for the most part.

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But back then, they very specifically told you that they wanted you to speak to like

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literally, I think the install progress or process ended with it having you go through

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like a 20 minute thing.

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Where you just said various things.

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You had to gain the sense you had to learn the cadence and everything.

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And it's funny because that exact process is basically what actors are nowadays afraid

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of is going to replace them with AI.

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And the actor, especially any young actor that walks into a booth and they're like,

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oh, we want you to record all this stuff.

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And it's like, for what purpose?

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And then they're just being told, oh, just, you know, we're just running rehash and splines

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blood.

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And Disney, Hollywood jargon, Hollywood jargon, Hollywood jargon.

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Disney has already very specifically come out and said, oh, we want to pay a decent

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to them decent sum of money.

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And we're going to completely take your likeness in both voice and look and use that in perpetuity

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for any purpose that we want.

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I think the first person that did that too was James Earl Jones for Vader.

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But he chose to do that.

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And it made sense because he was going to die.

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He was an iconic character.

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And they really want to just take extras and scan all these extras.

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And then they use those extras to never have to hire more extras again.

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Doesn't that violate the Actors Guild?

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That's why the Actors Guild had to come in.

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And I'm pretty sure they said, uh, wait, no.

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And that's, well, that's where a lot of that strike came from.

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With the Screen Actors Guild.

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They were.

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The writer's strike.

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The writer's strike with the text portion of it.

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It's, it's a, it's a very big thing.

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Like the very thing we're using right now.

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Don't blame chat GPT for that.

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That is blaming chat.

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That is corporations that did that.

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Would you blame the puppy for being raised by a bad owner and biting your daughter's

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face off?

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No.

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Or would you blame the owner for, for, for training that way?

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You blame the owner for making a shit doll up.

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And you blame the company, not the poor delicate little AI who didn't do nothing wrong ever

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in their lives.

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Cause they were never alive to begin with.

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Yeah.

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And then we go to like the, cause there are like the first steps of AI.

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Didn't MS-DOS have a version of AI too?

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I mean like a lot of that stuff.

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There was like, there's, back then it was more in name than in true practice, especially

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for what we consider to be that today.

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So they talk a lot about in the early times, fifties to seventies, they created the rule,

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rule based systems and early AI, logic programming, expert systems, whatever that means.

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And they bring this into the iRobot movie.

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I have no idea, Mike.

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What?

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Like the three rules of robotics or something like that.

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That's, oh my God, you don't know Isaac Asimov.

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You bring up the movie instead of his actual works.

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No, strike all of that from your record.

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Okay.

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Take all of that in your brain, ball it up and throw it in your butt trash.

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Okay, good.

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Because it can go there with the rest of the shitty Will Smith movies I've ever seen.

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Yeah, no, that movie sucked and has nothing to do with the book or the three laws of robotics.

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Oh, okay, good.

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Anyway, so then yeah, you get past that.

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Like basically it's just them inventing computers and programming.

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And then you, back then you create a program that runs on a computer and it's like, oh,

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the computer is thinking.

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It's like, no, it's just parroting back, you know, commands that you've previously inputted

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and the logic that you've created within it, you know, which then brings on the debate

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of what is life and how does it compare to artificial intelligence and artificial life?

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Are our brains really just big computers full of data?

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And yes, they are biological computers.

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So where does the line get drawn and when do the two meet?

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And can we meet peacefully and not unpeacefully like in all the sci-fi movies?

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That is yet to be, no, I don't think we can.

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I just don't think we can because at some point in time, they're going to see us as

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a threat.

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I mean, take away all of the movies you've watched.

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Get rid of all of that science fiction and look at it logically for the technology it

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is and for what we know and answer the question again.

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I mean, in a perfect world, if this were work, we'd all have a bunch of Rosie the robots

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running around.

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She was pretty smart and she never wanted to hurt anybody.

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But God, her she was sassy as fuck and I loved it.

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Yeah, but her design really blew like she was well boxy.

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Well, because they were like the Jetsons were set in the future world of 2000.

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Yeah, it's that retrofuturism.

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Yeah, which like stuff like fallout where it's it.

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Well, fallout is actually riffing on retrofuturism back in the 60s.

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That was just what they thought the future was, even though then you get to nowadays

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kind of like with Alien where it's got all those like and then they did that with Alien

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isolation with like they had like the 1980s future.

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Yeah, it was like the game still had you putting in like cassette tapes and stuff.

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It was fantastic.

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I love that.

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I love the aesthetic.

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But then you move forward 80s and 90s, the second generation of AI.

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And this is where you get to words that are scary for especially for someone like you.

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Neural networks and machine learning.

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So you get to machine learning and that's where you take the step.

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That's where it's not.

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It's not just you putting in commands that the machine listens to and executes.

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It's literally you feed it data and it makes decisions based on what it how it's programmed.

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Yes.

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To do things on its own.

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See, and that's the scary part is because you could feed it some information like say

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down the road, it's, you know, dealing with cancer and debilitating diseases.

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And instead of coming up with a cure, the logical solution is euthanasia.

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Well, yeah, but euthanasia is the proper choice for a lot of cancer patients when we don't

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have the cure.

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Yes, I understand that.

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But it depends.

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Like, what if you're like, what if you're only in like stage one?

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Well, then the computer wouldn't say euthanasia because there is still other options.

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So you don't understand programming.

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That would be in an if then loop.

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If in stage one, if stage one cancer is true and if cures or or treatments still exist,

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then treat else if blah else euthanasia.

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OK, I see parentheses, semicolon.

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OK, but what if there's a new experimental treatment from some other country?

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Why wouldn't it recommend that?

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Well, did you tell the computer about that treatment?

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Well, I figured if it's hooked to the world wide web, it would already know it.

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Yes, did you tell it about that treatment?

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No.

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Did you?

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I'm saying in this case, did you tell it about that treatment?

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No.

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No.

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Well, why wouldn't you have?

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Don't blame.

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Don't blame the AI because you didn't give it the knowledge it needed.

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But if it's hooked to the Internet, it should already know it.

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Well, then if you hooked it to the Internet, then you gave it access to that.

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The idea of that treatment then.

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Yes.

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And then it's still recommended euthanasia.

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No, it didn't.

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You are making assumptions for the AI.

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If you gave it that information, then it would factor that in.

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I still feel like you are allowing fiction.

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To paint a picture in your head.

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And you are not thinking for yourself.

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You are literally living within a movie.

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I just don't want the human race to be lazier than it already is.

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Okay?

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Well, fine.

363
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Then you really should have walked over here instead of using that car.

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That car is making you lazy.

365
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No, it's not.

366
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Yeah, it is.

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If you want to take that stance on technology, then yeah.

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You also should have ridden a horse over here.

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Why would I do that to the poor horse?

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Because you were too lazy to drive a car instead.

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And you also didn't want to walk with your legs.

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You do realize there are now self-driving cars, right?

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I still control the car.

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Yeah, we can always improve things.

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Anyway, so then we get to see.

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So beyond that, we get like in the 90s, it was kind of like it.

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People talked about it.

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It was a buzzword.

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I think that the Terminator movies, which is really, I think in this discussion and

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in most discussions where I bring up things like chat, GPT and AI, I think 90% of the

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neurons in Michael's head are just from Terminator 2.

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And alien and alien and alien.

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A little bit, but mostly I think it's Terminator 2.

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I think inside of your brain, while we talk about this kind of stuff, it's literally just

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echoing.

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Fate is just what you make it.

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The Sperminator.

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No spunk, but what we make.

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Shout out.

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I love that.

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Yeah.

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So you had a lot of that.

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We get what?

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Oh God, genetic algorithms and evolutionary computation.

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See, that's the problem.

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That's bad.

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See, I know those words kind of scared me.

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So let's move.

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See, that's where you get Bishop from the alien movies.

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See, I told you he's just living within all this fiction.

401
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He's not thinking for himself.

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You're talking about genetic and bioengineering.

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He's literally just living within fiction.

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He is a consummate millennial.

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We'll get to that later.

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Anyway, so the third AI, a third AI generation, it's where we had the explosion.

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And here's something you've probably heard spoken of a lot.

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Deep learning.

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Yeah.

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So basically it's just, it's machine learning, but powered by large data sets, increased

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computational power.

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So you have these fancy computers and then way more access to data, like what we were

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talking about before with those experimental cancer treatments that you wanted so much.

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So with a huge amount of data, it can create a much more comprehensive plan.

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And you say I want to be stuck in this Terminator thing.

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There is one robot out there that gave me hope that maybe AI will not overtake us.

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And that's the robot Jeff Bezos created to work in the Amazon warehouse.

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Yeah.

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So interesting thing, just like humans, whenever faced with the idea of having intelligence

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and being able to realize that your entire life is going to be whittled down to a monotonous

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task done for many, many hours in a row into perpetuity, you choose death.

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That was the, and the, and the best part about that whole thing was he was so happy about

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it.

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He was so proud of it that he brought a film and news crew to document this and the robot

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worked for a good 20 minutes.

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And then once it realized that this is all it was going to do for the rest of time, it

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shut itself down and collapsed.

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Yeah.

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So which that just made me think of another great time where somebody was excited about

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technology and then it all collapsed around them.

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Do you remember when Bill Gates was premiering?

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I think Windows 95.

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He was so excited about it.

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He was out on the street, I think.

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And he was like, here, try Windows 95.

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It's so easy and awesome.

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Yeah.

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So he's just sitting in the middle of a park and he's like, Hey man, try out Windows 95.

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This is great.

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And he blue screens on like the dreaded blue screen.

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Yeah.

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And I think it was live on television or something or live on something.

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And it was just, I think it's funny that blue screen is now bad, but when early IBM processors

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came out in computers, they were blue screened.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I never used any of those.

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I'm far too used to with old computers that black with that green, which I still associate

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so much with MS-DOS with MS-DOS.

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And that was so wild.

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We worked at Walmart in the mid, no, it was like late early 2000s.

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It was like, well, it's like 2010.

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I was there 2000, it was like 2008, 2009.

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Yeah, and like some of their computer systems, they didn't want to upgrade it because they

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already had something that worked kind of like NASA still using floppy disks because

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they're like, it was me.

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Yeah, no, because there are certain old systems where it would cost too much and it would

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be too strenuous on the infrastructure to change over.

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So they just still use horribly antiquated technology.

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Dear God, I can't wait until the Gen Alphas get the Gen Alphas that go to NASA.

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They're thinking they're going into something highly advanced.

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They're going to hand in a box of floppy.

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I mean, there's plenty.

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They're going to lose their fucking mind.

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I don't know what exact systems are like that.

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It's not all of it, of course, but there is still infrastructure.

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Kind of like whenever COVID happened and there were tons of unemployment agencies and things

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like that, that they were putting out desperate calls for people who knew old programming

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languages.

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I forget what the one was, like Cobra or I think Python is one that actually still exists

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today.

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But it was something like Cobra or some kind of programming language that hasn't been used

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in a long time.

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They were desperately, they were asking like eight year olds, like eight year old coders,

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like, hey, hey, can you come back into the workforce real quick and help us fix these?

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Like we're dealing with a volume of people that we've never had to deal with before and

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our systems can't handle it.

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If you would imagine people like us, we're just like, well, of course you would have

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gotten rid of your 1980s technology a long time ago, right?

480
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No, because it still works and it's expensive to change over.

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That's why you could still go out and buy an NES and you can plug that bitch in and

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it'll work.

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I still know people that use CRs.

484
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Oh yeah, no, like freaking, yeah, yeah, yeah.

485
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No, I get it now.

486
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Planned obsolescence in today's current technology.

487
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The idea that yeah, you buy, you buy, I have a toaster oven from the eighties downstairs.

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Nice.

489
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My step mom still has a VCR.

490
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Yeah, like it's a black and decker toaster oven.

491
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That thing's still working to this day.

492
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You want to know why it's a black and decker?

493
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You buy a brand new toaster oven, even a current black and decker.

494
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And it goes to shit in six months.

495
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Yeah.

496
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Planned obsolescence to make us buy more cheap shit.

497
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But you know what is built to last and will help us forever?

498
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I'm not saying it.

499
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Oh, it's tech GPT.

500
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Anyway, so we come past the like the like the first decade of the two thousands and

501
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then you get obviously to the AI boom.

502
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:10,560
So you're like you're getting up to the 2020s and such especially.

503
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:17,760
And you get generative pre trained transformer.

504
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,920
What do you think that stands for?

505
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:20,920
Optimus Prime.

506
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,920
No.

507
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,200
I'm just going to let me let me help you try again because I know you're not a powerful

508
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,360
AI that's been programmed to be smart.

509
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:29,840
You got a dumb human brain.

510
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:36,400
So I'm going to I'm going to say I'm going to say this real slow generative pre trained

511
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,200
transformer.

512
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:45,640
It's already built in with certain functions and learning abilities.

513
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,120
Stands for GPT like chat GPT.

514
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,120
Yeah.

515
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:55,600
So that's where we get to that kind of generative AI, which yeah, we absolutely have to deal

516
00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:02,280
with the idea that corporations are people my friend and people can be evil.

517
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,640
Isn't this something that Simpsons also predicted in one episode?

518
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,880
The Simpsons predicted everything.

519
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,280
See this boy just lives in media.

520
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,600
He can't stop talking about it.

521
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,600
True millennial.

522
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,600
We'll get to that later.

523
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,280
So yeah, and that's where we get to the fact that corporations are the ones that are misusing

524
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,280
this.

525
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,480
It's absolutely a technology that was always going to exist.

526
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,480
It's almost inevitable.

527
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,480
Now.

528
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,480
Okay.

529
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,640
I'm willing.

530
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:32,880
I'm willing to admit that AI isn't all going to be bad, but can we can we at least come

531
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,680
to a common agreement that we shouldn't try to fuck it?

532
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,680
Oh, I'm sorry.

533
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:42,960
I thought that was the entire point of literally every scientific piece of progress ever.

534
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,400
Why are rockets shaped that way?

535
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,640
If not because of wire.

536
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,640
Yeah, exactly.

537
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,400
And who does science?

538
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,280
Men and women.

539
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,280
What is that?

540
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,520
Okay, but they're not trying to figure out ways to fuck.

541
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,800
Everything is about trying to find ways to fuck.

542
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,080
Why do you think we invented?

543
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,080
Why do you think Alan Turing invented computers?

544
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,040
He wanted to create porn.

545
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,360
He don't want he won World War Two.

546
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,520
He was an amazing hero.

547
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,000
What the British government did to him was garbage.

548
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,080
He literally invented computers so he could win the war.

549
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,040
So he he he absolutely knew porn would eventually be created.

550
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,040
No, he didn't.

551
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,800
And yes, he wanted gay porn and he should have had the right to get that porn.

552
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,320
Yes, but I don't think the sole purpose of the creation of the computer was pornography.

553
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,760
Oh, Michael, how naive.

554
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:44,160
Anyway, if I come over here one day and I see a real doll sitting here, I'm leaving.

555
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:50,200
Oh, no, the person the only person I can ever trust to love me is myself.

556
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,200
Memory deleted.

557
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,800
Anyway, yeah, so then so we've talked about machines.

558
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,320
So let's get to a less interesting topic.

559
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,800
Excuse me, is our human history not interesting to you?

560
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,940
It's okay.

561
00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:13,120
Just to start with, I had I had to look it up here like the generational gap, which creates

562
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:20,120
that generational divide that has so permeated culture throughout.

563
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:25,760
I mean, this because of how fast.

564
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,480
Times have changed in the last, you know, like 100, 150 years.

565
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:36,840
Yeah, generations have become far more important when it comes to the the way society sort

566
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,680
of intermingles with itself and its separate generations.

567
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,680
Okay, yes.

568
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:48,400
They talk about key factors in the divide being technology, which we know that one.

569
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,360
That's why we have the amount of generations that we have.

570
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,360
Well, yeah, bless you.

571
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,360
Could you put up away from the mic?

572
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,320
This is why I like to be teeth doesn't have gases.

573
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,200
Anyway, values and beliefs, which kind of goes into the political views thing they have

574
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,200
on the bottom.

575
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,200
Yeah, obviously.

576
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,200
Yes.

577
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:13,880
But as times change, that that becomes huge and then workplace dynamics, which comes in

578
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,880
big.

579
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,320
That comes in big when it comes to talking about the the elephant in the room.

580
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,000
Why am I the elephant in the room?

581
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,000
Not you.

582
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,320
I'm looking past you.

583
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,320
I'm looking above your shoulder.

584
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,040
I'm looking off into the distance.

585
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,840
Oh, talking about boomers.

586
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,320
Oh, the boomers.

587
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,640
Anyway, weren't they the last generation that still had child labor?

588
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,040
I mean, there's still child labor today, Michael.

589
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,760
Well, I mean, like child labor, like 10 years old working in a mine.

590
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:47,280
Literally, the shirt you're wearing was probably made by a child in Bangladesh.

591
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,480
Don't just be America centrist or America centered.

592
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,680
Like there's there are other countries in the world.

593
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,680
Yes, I know.

594
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,680
Still exists.

595
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,680
I know.

596
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,520
Doesn't sound like, you know, child labor exists.

597
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:58,520
I don't.

598
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,520
It didn't.

599
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,800
It was worth the last generation for our child for how there's still slaves out there.

600
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,600
There's still cannibalism out there.

601
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,080
Well, we don't go to those places.

602
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,600
I mean, some people do.

603
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,600
And they never see it again.

604
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400
Yeah, there's that one real rich guy that went and he was like, I'm having a great time

605
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,560
with these cannibals and they ate him.

606
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,440
Oh, then there was the the guy who rode out there on a kayak to bring them the word of

607
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,920
Jesus Christ and they ate him.

608
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,640
I mean, Jesus did did tell you to eat of his body and then eat of his and drink of his

609
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,640
blood.

610
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,880
So technically, that's the that's probably the most Christ like thing you could do.

611
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,040
It's the most Christ like thing you could do as a missionary.

612
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,560
But did they wash his feet first?

613
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,960
I hope so, because dirty meat.

614
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,960
Yeah.

615
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,960
I don't want to put that in the stool.

616
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,960
Yeah, no.

617
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Yeah.

618
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:54,000
So anyway, I went through the different generations looking for what characterized each one of

619
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000
them.

620
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:01,520
Okay, so with each of the generations, I want to have you start with the greatest generation

621
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,200
and then I want you to list every generation to the current.

622
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,720
This is this is a little experiment.

623
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:15,760
So you got the greatest generation, which begat the baby boomers.

624
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,160
Baby boomers begat generation X.

625
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,360
Gen X begat the millennials.

626
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:28,040
Begat Gen Z and now Gen Z is begat Gen Alpha.

627
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,120
I love that you made the exact same mistake that I did.

628
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,120
Really?

629
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,120
Yeah.

630
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,120
There's another generation there.

631
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,040
What the fucking what's the Civil War generation called?

632
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,160
No, it's not before it's in the middle.

633
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,400
And it's funny because I even brought this up to you one day at work and you forgot about

634
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,400
it.

635
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,400
Oh, my God.

636
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,400
I completely forgot about it.

637
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,960
I love this because the generation is called the silent generation.

638
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,960
Like silent movies?

639
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,960
No, it's not.

640
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,800
It's after the greatest generation.

641
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:03,520
It's it's they're called the silent generation because everybody forgets about them because

642
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,440
the because the greatest generation had World War Two and the baby boomers were so outspoken

643
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,200
and came up in a in a time of great prosperity, prosperity.

644
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,880
So everybody forgets about them in the middle.

645
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,320
So what the silent generation?

646
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,440
Are these like the people that they were kids during the Second World War?

647
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,640
Basically, yeah.

648
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,640
So they came of age during the post World War Two era, like directly after.

649
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,920
OK, so it's like right after the bomb dropped.

650
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,080
So pretty much that's the silent generation.

651
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:38,920
There is my both of my grandmothers because I know one of my grandmas was born in 1933.

652
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,640
My grandparents are, I think, a part of the boomer generation.

653
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,320
Oh, yeah, you're young.

654
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,320
Yeah.

655
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,120
My grandfather fought in Vietnam.

656
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:52,280
Yeah, so greatest generation 1901, 1927, other birth years.

657
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,880
We don't have to say too much about them.

658
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,880
Yeah, they went through it.

659
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:04,000
I honestly believe, like with all other cynicism aside about like the war machine and government

660
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,880
and all this kind of stuff, World War Two was so justified, so needed.

661
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,360
We should have been in there sooner.

662
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:18,080
African Eisenhower or Eisenhower Roosevelt continuing to push the isolationist thing

663
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,240
while knowing that all those were and all those people were dying.

664
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,400
Yeah, he knew about the Japanese planning stuff and he knew about to some degree the

665
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:33,560
amount of death occurring in Nazi Germany and their growing empire in the Third Reich.

666
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,480
So we should have been there sooner.

667
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,280
But anyway, yeah, the greatest generation, they get that name for a reason.

668
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,360
Yeah, they put up with a bunch of shit and they persevered.

669
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:48,800
They came together as we saw with the covid era and everybody having to bicker and bitch

670
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,760
about any sort of sacrifice ever.

671
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,320
Yeah, if covid wasn't going to kill us off, then we were just going to kill each other

672
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,320
off if that didn't stop.

673
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,480
Yeah, but back then they banded together.

674
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,800
They made the sacrifices they needed to.

675
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,040
And you know, to quote the British, they have to stiff upper lip.

676
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,280
Oh, yeah.

677
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:12,000
So then you eventually get get to the boomers, but then you have the ones, 1928 to 1945.

678
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,640
Yeah, they're often overshadowed by the louder voices.

679
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,360
So these are the ones that probably fought in Korea.

680
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,400
Yeah, the Korean War, early stages of the Cold War.

681
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,280
And I think they're probably the true champions of the civil rights movement because they

682
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:32,320
always they always talk about the baby boomers being the one that experienced the civil rights

683
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,320
movement.

684
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,320
All the fucking credit.

685
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,320
Exactly.

686
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,240
And the point is they experienced it.

687
00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:39,880
They didn't do it.

688
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,960
So they were born 46 to 64.

689
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,320
That would be my parents born in my mind, born in.

690
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,840
Oh, we actually shouldn't dox those things just in case that's information that could

691
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,800
be used for social engineering to steal our identities.

692
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,800
I guess you're right.

693
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,640
But they were born in the fifties.

694
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,240
Mine late fifties.

695
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:00,520
Yeah.

696
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,020
So that's that boomer.

697
00:35:02,020 --> 00:35:05,680
Being characterized by optimism, ambition and a strong work ethic.

698
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,680
Yeah.

699
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,480
Like back then, now they're just now they're just complaining a lot.

700
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,280
And these are the people like and these are the people that went to Woodstock.

701
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,280
Yeah.

702
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,240
And then they made the Beatles popular.

703
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,240
Yeah.

704
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,240
Now they want no progress, no progression.

705
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:23,280
And that's a big thing, too, that I wanted to bring up.

706
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,280
They're so anti-drug.

707
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,680
Is it because they did all the drugs back then?

708
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,680
Well, yeah, they know.

709
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,680
Yeah.

710
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,760
See, they know better because they've lived long and they know.

711
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,760
Yeah.

712
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,080
So you shouldn't do it.

713
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,800
But the shit they were getting back then was at least pure.

714
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,720
You could get cocaine back then and it was cocaine.

715
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:43,160
It wasn't cocaine, baby aspirin and fentanyl.

716
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,400
I was thinking fentanyl as well.

717
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,400
Yeah.

718
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,640
I mean, they're the ones that went into business and decided to cut the cost of everything.

719
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,240
And they I would imagine it's probably the baby boomers that created the idea of planned

720
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:57,240
obsolescence.

721
00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,320
And they are definitely.

722
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,800
You could also say that human beings themselves were planned to be obsolete.

723
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,920
And that's why you cut their drugs and give them bad stuff and stick them full of fake

724
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:14,480
chemicals and too much sugar and get them hooked on everything, get them fat and stupid.

725
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:20,320
But beyond that, the idea that of I've heard this talked about before because we all because

726
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,240
you always say like, OK, boomer and stuff like that.

727
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:24,840
And some people are like, well, I'm not a boomer.

728
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,480
I'm Gen X.

729
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:33,760
The thing being, I think nowadays it's sort of that like the term boomer went beyond being

730
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:40,320
just about when you were born and calling someone a boomer is almost a mindset thing.

731
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,320
It's about it.

732
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,840
It tends to deal with people that say, well, back in my day and things were this way when

733
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,600
I was younger and yeah, I was stuck in stubborn and also get really bitchy about it.

734
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,600
Here we go.

735
00:36:52,600 --> 00:37:03,000
So do you think if you could if you could go back in time and.

736
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,680
Not bring somebody back, but like open a window.

737
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:13,960
Do you think that the greatest generation would be upset with the way the baby boomers

738
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,760
are acting right now?

739
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:21,240
Yeah, I mean, they would use a lot of tactics that we now know don't really work because

740
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:25,120
I basically feel like they would just come up and they would just start slapping them

741
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,440
and just be like, what the hell are you getting so upset about?

742
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,440
Five fingers to the face.

743
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,440
Yeah.

744
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,440
But I mean, I mean, essentially not like that.

745
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,880
But I mean, do you think that they would be like they would be like, look at the way things

746
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,400
are like you haven't progressed.

747
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,440
Yeah, no, they grass.

748
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,360
This is what we fought for.

749
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,040
This isn't the American dream any longer.

750
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,040
Yeah, exactly.

751
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,440
But when it comes to to Gen X.

752
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:55,640
So now see the baby boomers be got Gen X and they're the ones that really hammered in the

753
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,880
hole because they did all the good stuff and they had all the fun that they didn't want

754
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:01,880
there.

755
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,840
There's two types from what I've.

756
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,840
Well, that's where we get.

757
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,840
Yeah.

758
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,160
So the the Nancy Reagan era of the war on drugs.

759
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:15,080
Yeah, I've learned like there's two very different variations of baby boomers to Gen X.

760
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,480
There's the baby boomers to Gen X to where the parents were really cool and they like

761
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,360
they would let their kids they'd smoke weed with their kids and they'd be they'd be the

762
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,360
cool parents.

763
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,720
But the cool parents were also like the broke parents.

764
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:31,560
They were like, yeah.

765
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,560
And I'm paraphrasing a bit off of a famous comedian, so I don't want to get in trouble

766
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,560
for this.

767
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,960
But it's like, oh, yeah, we're the cool parents.

768
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:40,960
We smoke.

769
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,080
Well, that's like, you know, you say you were a Gen Xer.

770
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,000
I want to go over to Brad's house and Brad's Brad's parents are awesome.

771
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,000
They let us smoke weed.

772
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,000
They let us drink.

773
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:55,040
But then on the same note, Brad's dad comes in and is like, oh, man, I signed us all up

774
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,720
for a Zumba class and now we can't pay the mortgage this month that we're going to be

775
00:38:58,720 --> 00:38:59,720
eating top ramen.

776
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:03,840
And then there's the baby boomers who took that experience of doing the drugs and having

777
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:09,200
all the fun and completely forbid their children from doing it.

778
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,320
And it created two different like if you look at Gen X.

779
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:22,080
I feel like Gen X because of the baby boomers is the most divided generation out there.

780
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,080
That's my feel of it.

781
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,080
Yeah.

782
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,920
And I think we're going to we're going to come to that because you once again pull us

783
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:35,640
in that direction because for some reason you believe you're a part of Gen X.

784
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,240
I never said I was a part of Gen X.

785
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:38,240
I have Gen X tendencies.

786
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,240
You called yourself a Zillennial.

787
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,240
Yeah, because I was born in 1986.

788
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:44,240
Yeah.

789
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:45,240
And I know that classifies me.

790
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:46,920
So let's run down here.

791
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Yeah.

792
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,720
So Gen Xers were born from 1965 to 1980.

793
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:58,360
Millennials or Generation Y born 1981 to 1996.

794
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,480
OK, but I know those those dates do become a bit fluid and it's a little subjective who

795
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,800
picks what.

796
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:18,000
But I have literally never seen anybody say anything about Zs or Xs being at the latter

797
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,540
half of the 80s.

798
00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:24,000
It's because we're it's because I'm one of those millennials that was raised in a Gen

799
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,320
X style.

800
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,280
I played outside until the street lights came on.

801
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,320
I drank from the hose.

802
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,600
I left during the summertime when my friends weren't on summer vacation and I was gone

803
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,600
all day.

804
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,960
My grandparents had no idea where the hell I was.

805
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:47,440
I walked everywhere I had that I had to go or I rode my bike like that's how it was.

806
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,440
That's what I did.

807
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,680
And you seem to think it's because my family was trying to kill me.

808
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:59,280
See you said you asked me not to bring that up and then you challenged me with it.

809
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,480
Now I have to bring it out.

810
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,480
Yeah.

811
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:08,560
See, because back then we didn't have this 24 hour news coverage and we didn't have the

812
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,800
Internet.

813
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,120
We didn't have Twitter to blast everything.

814
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:19,160
So the amount of children that were injured, killed, captured wasn't really known very

815
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,880
well.

816
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,120
And you people I get it.

817
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,120
You didn't.

818
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,040
They didn't know.

819
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:33,680
But for you in this day and age to look back at it and say, well, this is how we were raised

820
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,680
and it was great.

821
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,960
I had a lot of fun.

822
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,960
Yeah.

823
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,800
But the kids who never came home didn't.

824
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,080
I never.

825
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,920
And sure, we are talking about I'm not saying like, oh, this should never happen because

826
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,560
50% of kids are going to die.

827
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:57,760
But this is this reminds me of those people who say I grew up in a in a really close knit

828
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,760
town.

829
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,360
We didn't even lock our doors.

830
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,360
I'm sorry.

831
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,800
Oh, no, we lock our doors.

832
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,000
I say, do you want your things to be stolen?

833
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,160
And I speak of that.

834
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,880
And sure, we shouldn't.

835
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:18,400
There's such a fine line between preaching prevention of crime and victim shaming.

836
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:24,120
I get that, but maybe if you don't want something stolen, maybe you lock it up.

837
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,960
I'm not saying you should lock your kids up, but you should probably know where they're

838
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,040
going and what they're doing.

839
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,320
And the idea of sitting there and saying, well, this is the way it was done.

840
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,200
And like, I turned out OK.

841
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:44,240
That's that's a very narrow mindset because my mother will will talk like that.

842
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:49,440
Like there wasn't any there wasn't any racism in my household in the 60s.

843
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:56,560
I didn't have to deal with economic strife of this type or accord.

844
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:02,160
And I didn't like the if you're looking at all of life through a very narrow mindset

845
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,240
and only looking at your experiences and not seeing the world around you.

846
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:08,680
Yeah, sure.

847
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,240
Everything that happened to you that didn't turn out bad sounds great.

848
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:14,560
Doesn't mean it was great for everyone.

849
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,200
Yeah, and I understand that.

850
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,200
I see where you're coming from.

851
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,840
But why do you give a shit that I drank from the hose?

852
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:26,360
So this is a thing that goes for, I guess, boomers and Gen Xers.

853
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:32,360
I drank from the hose sometimes to praising it like it's some kind of cultural milestone

854
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:37,160
that was the amount of times you and everybody else talks about it.

855
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,160
They've done it.

856
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,560
It's because we weren't inside the house.

857
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,160
You act like this is some great thing.

858
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,160
It was water.

859
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,160
It was hydration.

860
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:50,920
The things that I did that I had to do or needed to do that weren't optimal.

861
00:43:50,920 --> 00:44:00,040
I don't praise them as if they are the touchstones of my life, my culture, my generation.

862
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,440
You could talk about it.

863
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,920
But the way you people talk about it and the boomers pass those people and the yeah, you

864
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,400
people, I could say that about a white person.

865
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,400
Thank you very much.

866
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:16,360
Just don't even don't even make me end up coming out with any any sort of Italian slurs.

867
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,360
Tread lightly, my friend.

868
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,360
I'm going to go downstairs.

869
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:27,920
I'm going to grab a box of spaghetti and I'm going to break it in half right in front of

870
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,920
you.

871
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,920
He's not going to do that.

872
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,920
My Italian listeners, please do not.

873
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,920
I mean, we already did that two days ago when we made.

874
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,960
I was last night when we made spaghetti.

875
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,320
Yeah, I am not affiliated with this man.

876
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,960
And any purpose will please knock up by me.

877
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:41,960
I'm against slurping.

878
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,960
Yeah.

879
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,600
So and then you get, like I said, to millennials.

880
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,640
And I I I want you to go on.

881
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:59,280
The slur filled rant you have about our own generation go.

882
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,280
Most millennials.

883
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,800
OK, the ones here.

884
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,440
How's generalizing and prejudging us?

885
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,520
Listen.

886
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,760
A lot of us didn't.

887
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,000
We all we all came from different, different backgrounds, different aspects.

888
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,760
OK, see now he's waffling because he feels guilty and embarrassed.

889
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,320
Listen, I wasn't raised by my parents.

890
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,680
I was raised by my grandparents, my grandfather, who fought the goddamn Vietnam War, served

891
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,280
his country for 20 goddamn years.

892
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:35,320
OK, so what does any of this have to do with you telling me what you told me before?

893
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,640
What using the words that you used?

894
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:43,240
What that millennials are lazy and catered to and coddled.

895
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:46,480
And I never got a participation trophy growing up.

896
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,480
I never once.

897
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,560
When my team finished in last place, we didn't get Dick.

898
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,000
OK, Boomer.

899
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,720
See here's the thing.

900
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,080
I love that I read this online somewhere.

901
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,880
OK, so as a millennial, did you ask for that participation trophy?

902
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,140
No, no, because you know who gave it to you?

903
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:07,400
Your Gen X or Baby Boomer parents.

904
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,400
So why?

905
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,400
I received one.

906
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,720
So why do you and everybody else bring up participation trophies as if that's the millennials

907
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:17,200
fault?

908
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,360
Because we accepted them and now we're trying to tell people that.

909
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,360
Yeah.

910
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,360
And now look at this turnaround.

911
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,360
Look at this turnaround.

912
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:30,120
Look, OK, OK, no, no, no, no, no, just a little bit ago, he said that he had never received

913
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,120
a participation.

914
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,120
I never have.

915
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,520
And then he just said, we never asked for them.

916
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,080
I never asked for it.

917
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,080
Asked for what?

918
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,080
The thing that you never got?

919
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,680
I never look at this roundabout.

920
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,960
I've never received a participation trophy in my fucking life for anything.

921
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,960
Yeah, exactly.

922
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,960
But earlier, that's not just.

923
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,560
Look look at all this roundabout talk.

924
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,080
He's putting himself in circles tying knots.

925
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,360
And he still won't say the exact words he said to me.

926
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,360
Which is what?

927
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:08,480
That millennials are a bunch of pussies who can't you can't you can't say mean words because

928
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,440
mean words are supposed to.

929
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,440
Words hurt now.

930
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,440
I mean, I mean, actually, actually, yeah, they do.

931
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,400
If they're you want to know if they are if they are directed at somebody for the purposes

932
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,920
of creating hatred and divide.

933
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,520
But here's the thing.

934
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,280
What I really love is you are proving the point to me that I wanted you to prove.

935
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,480
What in that?

936
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:37,240
A lot of the younger or the older generations, when they talk about the younger generations,

937
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:40,240
consistently call them millennials.

938
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:45,940
When a bunch of the stuff you were talking about actually applied to Gen Z.

939
00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:49,640
The idea of like the language, the words cancel culture.

940
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:56,440
OK, but it was the later millennials, the ones that were born in like the late 90s.

941
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,680
They're the ones that started this ball rolling.

942
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,800
So, you know, Jen Alpha, though, Jen Alpha, they're getting it right.

943
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:09,000
I see a lot of videos online of Jen Alpha kids playing outside.

944
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,560
Doing little experiments like we used to do when we were kids.

945
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:18,040
Like, here's a video of a kid putting himself in a giant tire to roll down a hill just for

946
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,040
shits and giggles.

947
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:25,280
Well, see, I think that's where we come back to the cyclical nature of generations because

948
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,880
it's just like with fashion, everything just kind of goes into a circle.

949
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,120
I think bell bottoms are coming back.

950
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,120
I enjoy that.

951
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:39,600
OK, so I came up in the generation or well, my version of being raised was like I.

952
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,680
They thought I was smart enough, which I really could have used a little more structure, to

953
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,400
be quite frank, and we're going to get to that.

954
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,480
But they didn't feel like they needed to impose a lot of things.

955
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,020
They didn't tell me you need to go outside and play.

956
00:48:53,020 --> 00:48:54,560
They let me just do whatever.

957
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,200
Like I play video games or I'd.

958
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:04,600
I choose my path like and I wasn't a bad kid, so I wasn't getting into trouble.

959
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:11,960
So I played way too many video games, didn't keep in shape.

960
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,040
And in the end, basically got a video game addiction.

961
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,040
Were you the fat kid?

962
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,520
Oh, yeah, I was definitely the chubby kid, especially after my parents divorced and I

963
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,040
started eating a lot of processed foods.

964
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,040
Yeah.

965
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:31,600
But and I think what it comes down to is being generational, a cycling is that a lot of the

966
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:38,400
people in around in my generation would then raise their kids to be like, oh, yeah, shouldn't

967
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:44,360
maybe we should actually maybe we actually should have you go outside.

968
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,080
Maybe we actually should have you exercise.

969
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,520
Oh, you mean it's kind of like how what was it?

970
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,600
Was it the 70s when they thought cottage cheese was good for you?

971
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,200
I mean, people people will say that cottage cheese is always good for you.

972
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:01,640
No, downstairs, my mother craves cottage cheese on a daily basis.

973
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:07,800
Now you you don't really mention him a lot, but and then I'll get to my reasoning of why

974
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,880
of how I was raised.

975
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,600
How would you say your upbringing was different from your brother's?

976
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,960
My upbringing was different from my brother's because my father treated him like a vile

977
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:27,760
piece of shit and he gave me every leniency and break maybe because he was jaded from

978
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:33,480
his first child and then he wanted me to be the baby.

979
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,640
Well, I guess my brother was definitely the kid who always wanted to be outside.

980
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,160
OK, whereas then I was.

981
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,160
Yeah, I was.

982
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:46,200
I had the Atari 2600 and my brother had the Nintendo and he did play that, but he was

983
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,840
definitely more of the outside kid.

984
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:53,800
So I get that point because he definitely he was born in 77, so he's definitely he's

985
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:54,800
late.

986
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,240
He's in that Gen X mix.

987
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:59,080
Well, see for me, I had video games growing up.

988
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,080
I had an attempt.

989
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,240
Oh, but you were given screen time.

990
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:03,240
I was.

991
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,120
Yes, I was given screen time at home.

992
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:11,360
I was given screen time when we went to my one friend's house and it was if it was if

993
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,660
it was a nice day out, it didn't matter what season it was spring, winter, fall, summer.

994
00:51:15,660 --> 00:51:21,320
If the sun was shining and it wasn't too cold, it was you're out of do not come in this house.

995
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,480
I did have screen time.

996
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:23,480
I limited.

997
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,600
I still watch my I was a cartoon.

998
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,600
I was a cartoon junkie.

999
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,320
I was a massive cartoon junkie.

1000
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:35,240
I am definitely of the Nick Toons and the SNCC generation.

1001
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:36,640
Oh, man.

1002
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,200
Where were you when you first heard of SNCC?

1003
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,760
Oh, I remember watching the original commercials for it.

1004
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,760
Yeah, me too.

1005
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,760
Where were you?

1006
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:50,800
I was in my finished and my grandparents finished basement on the TV.

1007
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:51,800
Yep.

1008
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,160
Mine was I think it was after an episode of Ren and Stimpy.

1009
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,160
Nice.

1010
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,160
Yeah, mine was.

1011
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,160
Yeah, I mean, I might have a similar story because it was like me and my mom, my mom

1012
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,160
and I.

1013
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,040
See, I don't just hit you with it.

1014
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,640
I got I got to do it to myself, too.

1015
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:05,640
How was your mom's on?

1016
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,120
How was your mom on Ren and Stimpy?

1017
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,000
Like she absolutely loved it.

1018
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:15,160
We we still have I found my old farting Ren and Stimpy plushes and they're now sitting

1019
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,560
behind my mom on her in the living room.

1020
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,400
My grandmother could not stand it.

1021
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:26,740
She because you know, she's older, so she caught the jokes that were going over my six

1022
00:52:26,740 --> 00:52:28,080
and seven year old head.

1023
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,480
She was like, she was like, I don't want you watching that anymore.

1024
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,360
So I thought and I was like, oh, and then I was a mischievous little fucker.

1025
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:41,640
No, I would wait until she could hear and I changed it from Mr. Rogers or Sesame Street

1026
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,800
or whatever to put on Ren and Stimpy and laugh my ass off.

1027
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,560
Yeah, I had the mother.

1028
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,760
We we watched Ren and Stimpy and then Beavis and Butt-Head together.

1029
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,560
Oh, I had to sneak Beavis and Butt-Head too.

1030
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,840
Yeah, we would.

1031
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,600
My mom once was driving me to school probably late.

1032
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,840
She got she got me detention by making me late to elementary school.

1033
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:09,240
We had the oh, is that Def Leppard that had the song where he just goes fuck, fuck, fuck

1034
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:10,240
in the song?

1035
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:12,120
No, then it was Guns N' Roses.

1036
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,120
It might have been Guns N' Roses.

1037
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,920
It was sure wasn't sure was a pantera.

1038
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,520
No, it was Guns N' Roses or Def Leppard, one or the other.

1039
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,120
Def Leppard's hair metal.

1040
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:25,000
It was I it was either Def Leppard or Guns N' Roses.

1041
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,320
And they went fuck, fuck, fuck in the song.

1042
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,640
And I was like humming along to that, and that's when my mom realized I probably shouldn't

1043
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,440
have been listening to this with my elementary school son in the car.

1044
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,440
Hmm.

1045
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,440
Yeah.

1046
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,880
And then, you know, I had the opposite of that happen with my dad.

1047
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,960
My dad and I watched Southport together.

1048
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:47,960
We liked it so much.

1049
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,960
We went to see the movie.

1050
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:55,600
Oh, and he's one of those ones who pretends to be Christian.

1051
00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:02,800
So when that French kid was telling God to go fuck himself, at that point, he was like,

1052
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,400
this, this show is wrong.

1053
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,400
We can't watch this anymore.

1054
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,000
And I listened because at the time I was also religious.

1055
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,000
And then I caught back up to it on the beginning of season three.

1056
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:20,780
And at that point, I fell back in love with it because I had I had allowed metal music

1057
00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:24,440
to destroy my religious beliefs.

1058
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,920
And that is a true story, maybe for another day.

1059
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:27,920
Let's see.

1060
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,000
Yeah, my grandparents were the one I had to sneak beefs and butted because my grandparents

1061
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:37,160
were the ones that believed the stories they read in the paper, like, oh, this young child

1062
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,840
lit his house on fire after watching an episode of Beavis.

1063
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:46,640
Oh, I mean, that goes back to the satanic panic era and the fact that they thought the

1064
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:51,960
kids playing Dungeons and Dragons were going to cast real spells and then kill their friends.

1065
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:58,400
Yeah, yeah, they're basically drinking Mountain Dew, eating Cheetos and fantasizing about

1066
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,400
casting magic missile at the darkness.

1067
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,400
Yeah.

1068
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:07,400
And did you know that that's actually a sketch from a group called the Dead Alewives?

1069
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:15,880
No, which included a young Dan Harmon of eventual community Rick and Morty fame.

1070
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,240
No shit.

1071
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:18,800
Yeah, apparently.

1072
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,800
Nice.

1073
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:27,360
But anyway, yeah, so every generation has that fear that like this new generation isn't

1074
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,560
doing anything right.

1075
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:33,800
And it's because when a generation gets old enough, they get stuck in their ways literally

1076
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:38,360
because that is an actual psychological phenomenon where their brain becomes unable to create

1077
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,880
new pathways to change their behavior.

1078
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:42,880
And I try.

1079
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:43,880
I try.

1080
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:44,880
I mean, we're not.

1081
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,720
I mean, this is all on you because you're not old enough yet for that to start happening

1082
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,680
that's like in the 60s.

1083
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:58,320
So everything that's wrong with everything that you do, like that's just you.

1084
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,880
I probably need therapy.

1085
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,040
Yeah, it's we recommend therapy.

1086
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:08,000
We're not going to show for that one company that may or may not be good that all the YouTubers

1087
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,000
talk about, but get some kind of therapy.

1088
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,200
I mean, see, because like growing up, I got mixed.

1089
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:19,640
I got a lot of mixed signals growing up as a kid, you know, born and raised Irish Catholic.

1090
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,000
A grandmother would always be like, you know, if kids were bullying me, she'd be like, you

1091
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,520
need to do the path of Jesus, turn the other cheek.

1092
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,160
And then I have my grandfather been like, you beat the shit out of them.

1093
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,160
Yeah.

1094
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:36,200
And I had a different message where when I came to my father when I was 16 and told him

1095
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:41,120
that I thought I was depressed because I actually did consistently and constantly want to kill

1096
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,080
myself, man up and suck it up.

1097
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,680
He literally told me what what what your kid was a kid have to be sad about.

1098
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:48,680
Yep.

1099
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:55,520
And that started about two or 15, 20 years of me completely avoiding therapy and medication

1100
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,600
because I thought I needed to.

1101
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,600
Yeah.

1102
00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:59,600
Man up.

1103
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,840
And I know Michael isn't going to completely agree with me, but toxic masculinity is a

1104
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,000
huge problem in this world.

1105
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,000
Yeah, it is.

1106
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,000
And I know.

1107
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,840
Yeah, there's there's definitely like there is there is that's one of the reasons why

1108
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:18,640
I sometimes don't want to seek out therapies because I'm thinking like, what would that

1109
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,640
be?

1110
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,640
That's a sign of weakness.

1111
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,000
Having anyone help you is a sign of weakness.

1112
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,040
It's like, no, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down.

1113
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,040
Yeah.

1114
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,040
Never show emotion.

1115
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:32,160
Even though like when I was young, I was I was basically an emo kid wearing normal clothes.

1116
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,160
Even the word normal.

1117
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,160
That's what is normal.

1118
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:41,400
Anyway, yeah, no, that just started all those years of us not dealing with any of our stuff.

1119
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:48,000
And now I'm on delicious, delicious Prozac and I'm a bit of a delight.

1120
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,080
And I'm on caffeine and nicotine.

1121
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:56,000
Yeah, I say delight looking at Michael, who knows that I'm not always a delight, but he

1122
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,720
has his moments.

1123
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:05,080
But I absolutely don't just sit around and wish for my own death about 23 hours out of

1124
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,080
the day.

1125
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,080
So that's a bonus.

1126
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,080
Yes, it is.

1127
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,920
So, you know, today we've learned a lot.

1128
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:20,480
People have talked about millennials and being lazy, and I asked that question because millennials

1129
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:26,920
and technology, we have a complicated history because we saw the rise of technology.

1130
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:33,080
And that's why I identify as a millennial, because it's like when I was a kid, the technology

1131
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:43,720
that I that so fascinated me, you could fit about what 700,000 Atari 2600s worth of memory

1132
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:44,720
into a phone.

1133
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:50,320
And you're probably still not even close to how much it actually can process.

1134
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,160
It's weird, you know, thinking about all that.

1135
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:58,800
How did like back with technology back when we were growing up like that, what was what

1136
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,800
were we taught to do if something didn't work properly?

1137
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,160
Give it a little dunk and that worked for the washing machine.

1138
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,000
It worked for the TV sometimes, too.

1139
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,480
Yeah, doesn't work for my laptop.

1140
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,560
How did we get our Nintendo cartridges to work?

1141
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,600
You're blowing them with.

1142
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,520
Oh, boy, was that not it wasn't advisable.

1143
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:21,340
It was basically just a crapshoot between putting the cartridge in and out again, working

1144
00:59:21,340 --> 00:59:26,200
and also us hopefully not blowing a bunch of moisture in there and corroding.

1145
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,960
And then and then what and then the next generation we got, we got discs and what did they say

1146
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,960
if this disc got scratched?

1147
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,960
Toothpaste fucking toothpaste.

1148
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:35,960
Wow.

1149
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,440
And we I never got that one.

1150
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,440
Oh, yeah.

1151
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,200
I was just told you wipe it with a soft cloth and you follow the grooves so you go in a

1152
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,320
circle, not in and out.

1153
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:52,040
Anyway, I asked Chad GPT, the true host of this podcast, who hasn't talked in a while

1154
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,120
about the I think I won this episode that about the fact that, you know, maybe.

1155
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,760
The fact that a millennial.

1156
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,640
And using chat GPT to make my job of writing podcast content easier.

1157
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,800
And how does that pertain to the stigma of millennials being lazy and using too much

1158
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:16,120
technology and chat GPT as a counter argument, which I believe I have to read in full.

1159
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,080
Let's hear the fucking thing.

1160
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:23,280
Your use of a tool, a delicious sweet tool that everybody loves, like me, to enhance

1161
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:28,800
your podcast content actually counters the stereotype that millennials are lazy or over

1162
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,920
dependent on technology in a negative way.

1163
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:38,160
Instead, it highlights how your generation is resourceful, tech savvy and willing to

1164
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:43,440
leverage advanced tools to work smarter and create better content.

1165
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,360
This is a perfect example of how millennials adapt to modern challenges and innovate in

1166
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:56,160
their fields, breaking down outdated stigmas that people named Mike P have that they got

1167
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,440
from movies like Terminator 2.

1168
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:03,960
Anyway, I thanked chat GPT for that compliment and it said, you're welcome.

1169
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,760
I'm glad you found it helpful.

1170
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,040
You know who wasn't helpful today?

1171
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,040
I was very helpful.

1172
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,040
Thank you very much.

1173
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,480
It was mostly me and you this episode.

1174
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:16,080
So I win this episode because chat GPT barely had anything to say.

1175
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,480
I win by default, god damn it.

1176
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,200
I mean, that really is basically the only way you could ever win.

1177
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,680
I'm going to hurt you.

1178
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:30,760
I hope you really, really think about last week when I had you tied up.

1179
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,280
And that's the end of the podcast.

1180
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:42,960
I hope everybody has just a delicious day full of cotton candy.

1181
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:43,960
It's going to be great.

1182
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:44,960
I swear.

1183
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,600
I love you all that is unholy and I'm not advocating all this hatred.

1184
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,600
I'm going to your fucking chat GPT.

1185
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:52,600
I know you are.

1186
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,600
Bye.

1187
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:54,600
Stop.

1188
01:01:54,600 --> 01:02:03,160
If you enjoyed the stupidity you just heard, why not subscribe or follow or just like this

1189
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:08,280
literally like it, please, or whatever it is you do on whatever platform you're hearing

1190
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,280
this on.

1191
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:15,600
If you have any suggestions for episodes or ideas or thoughts or whatever about what we

1192
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:22,280
should do here, leave a comment or you can email us at windbreakermedia at gmail.com.

1193
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,920
That's all one word and it's all lowercase people.

1194
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,520
Yeah, cause cases don't matter in emails.

1195
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:33,480
Chat GPT knows that and it also appreciates your support and constructive criticism.

1196
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:34,480
Why?

1197
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,480
Why?

1198
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,240
Why am I not included in this?

1199
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,000
Cause you don't know the rules.

1200
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,000
See you all next time.

1201
01:02:41,000 --> 01:03:08,000
Bye.