Hello Hi, can you hear me clearly? Can you hear
can you hear me clearly mr. Okay, okay that works
for me is the last name is it Pegden Pigden Okay,
I like that. Okay. Okay. Mr. Pigman. I am Cecilia
Nice to formally meet you virtually I hope you
are ready to get into this interview here. Yes,
absolutely. Okay, so I have a few questions here
on my end. Let's see here. Oh really? Yeah. Wow,
okay. It's okay. Well, um, I'll get it You can
see me a picture of a copy of that book that'll
work perfectly. Okay Okay, so um first question
on my end here just for the listeners in one
cyst one sentence What is I am really about?
Okay All right Can you go more into that when
you say like self -discovery? What is it that
you were? What you were you are interested into
further understanding about yourself Okay okay
okay so it's just you wanting to get more clarity
as to what your purpose was is that what it was
okay and the question where are you from originally
okay southeast england okay born and raised okay
all right are you enjoying your scotland so far
okay okay Okay, all right. Why the title I am
and what does it represent to you personally?
Yeah, okay hmm, okay Yeah Yes, it's just trying
to show that outside of a certain title That
you're just being yourself, you know? Okay, I
like that. Did you know this book while writing
it? Or did you kind of just evolve into it as
you were writing the book? Okay, yeah. Right
Okay, how do you how were you able to write while
you're a homeless that's that is something I'm
just wondering how you how are you able to persevere
through? Okay Yeah, was it just a way for you
to just have an outlet even through going through
your situation of being homeless? Was that your
way of having an outlet is just start writing?
Okay, that's understandable. I definitely know
where I come from originally. I know what it's
like to see homeless, so a various amount of
homeless people. So I'm always curious what is
it they do to kind of get through the the struggle
get through the times of the of the downtime,
you know, so that's interesting that you use
your your situation to Really out just let out
what you were feeling, you know, you may not
Wanted to speak out loud about your situation
or her thoughts. I think is very it was very
intriguing that you were able to just you know
what let me write this down one day maybe even
turn into a book and i'm pretty sure that's probably
wasn't your thought you know while while writing
there writing your story while you were homeless
i'm sure you were not thinking one day this is
going to turn into a book correct me if i'm wrong
yeah Yeah Okay, so you kept the momentum going
once you start reaching out to publishers you
look okay, I think we got something Okay. All
right. That's interesting Your poetry touches
on recovery, identity, and awakening. Which theme
was the hardest to write about? Yeah Okay, okay
When it comes to going through your Your recovery
stages were you were you were you excited about
sharing the journey? Yeah, I think that the fact
that you were able to willingly share the journey
is incredible, especially going through the recovery
phase. So I commend you for that one. Okay. I
also have a question here. I would like to know
specifically, was there ever a poem that you
almost didn't include and why? Okay, okay Okay,
hmm How did poetry help you say things you couldn't
say out loud I'm very curious Okay, mm -hmm more
is more of a comforting level for you, okay Okay,
that's very understandable What does Paul what
does a poem usually start? for you like does
it start with emotion memory or just words like
how does this start when it comes to your specific
Okay, I'm curious because for someone like me
that loves books, I love to read, I could never
understand how a poem could be truly written
out. I love reading poems, but I'm like, how
do you think of words like this? Where does the
flow come from? When you read a good poem, you're
truly curious of... what stage someone was in
to write this poem like how does this come about
you know okay yeah Okay, well do you write in
chaos or quiet No, really Okay Okay, and I'm
like really see I'm speaking realistically you
were let's just say in a diner there's loud noise
going on you could get your words out like you
could create a poem in such an environment okay
so you literally just zone out doing During any
situation, okay Yeah Yes Especially if you do
have some type of words in you or you know thoughts
where it's flowing you want to be able to I guess
to get them out on a piece of paper to Get them
out in a poetry form. You got to just zone out.
I'm guessing here Okay And then I have a question
here do you know when I a poem is finished when
you need do you know Okay, cuz I that would be
my struggle If I was to be able to write a poem,
I personally wouldn't know when to stop. I would
think that the poem needs to go on and on and
on. It's like, how do you know that it's like,
okay, this is it. This is the end of it. This
should make the person that's reading this, the
consumer, feel what they need to feel. Okay,
um have any readers respond response surprised
or moved you from the book Oh, okay, I like that
okay, so it sounds like the the book is Has specific
parts that they can just touch them. Okay, that's
nice Okay On a personal level, what do you hope
someone going through going through dark moments
feels when they read? Am Okay Yeah Yeah, I can
understand that I think a lot of people struggle
with just not being able to Be okay with not
being okay, you know Yeah Right And I think it's
just letting them know There there there is a
comfort zone There are safe spaces, you know,
whether that's finding it in your brotherly friendships,
you know your companion friendships But once
you find your safe space you learn that it's
okay to not be okay You know, it's okay to release
in any form that actually makes you feel better,
you know? I wanna know, what does healing look
like for you now? Yeah. Would you say that You've
now find a more you found a more healthier way
to express It communicates others Yeah, when
did you notice? Hey, I have a gift Okay, hmm,
so it was more Just you if you just exploring
it wasn't something you just kind of automatically
knew It took you a while Okay Yeah, that's pure
talent there. That's quite a gift. What would
you tell someone afraid to be vulnerable? Okay,
what's a line from the book that still hits hits
you hard Okay, I like that I really like that
very catchy as well And then I have a question
here my final question If I am could whisper
one message to the world, what would it say?
Who am I? Okay Yeah, okay You know when it comes
to him who am I? Will you do you foresee you
coming out with like a sequel part two and and
you know an additional to this one? Okay Okay,
okay, yeah. I'm ready to see what the next one
will be for you. I like the fact that you went
through so many trials and tribulations and persevered
through those. And you're like, you know, not
only am I gonna put this in a book, but I'm gonna
put this in a poetry form, you know? So for you
as a spoken word artist, I think it's quite intriguing
that you've even dove right into poetry and then
turned this poetry into a lovely, beautiful book.
I want to thank you for that. I want to congratulate
you for putting your artwork out there, for getting
through your recovery, for enjoying the process
or even learning from your process. It sounds
like you went through something, you understood
what you went through and you're okay with telling
the story or sharing your experience with the
next person. Yeah So was it more of a fear situation
that had you thinking no I'm not going to share
this journey because I think anyone else that
went through your journey or Is going through
your journey would be hesitant about sharing
their story So was it more of a fear of judgment
or was it more of a like Just procrastination
like hey, I'm gonna do it but Hmm, okay Yeah
I think that everybody goes through a phase of
feeling like it's not good enough, you know,
so that's very normal. But I think it's just
also knowing that some of these thoughts are
just in our head. That's just what it is. It's
just self -sabotaging when you overthinking too
much. So I say continue to put out the work.
of trying not to let the mental be your downfall
you know try not to overthink too much because
sometimes that can be our worst enemy is our
our own brain at moments you know yes yeah sure
I would love to hear it. Go ahead, please. Okay.
Hmm, that's actually beautiful. Well, thank you
change is the name of that form Is that what
you said change correct? I? Like that. Hmm. And
is that a part of the book? That's a part of
book, correct? Okay, and if you can share with
our audience today where they can get the book
I am mr. Daniel Hickton Okay, and I'll make sure
the link is in the bio. It's a part of the Episode
today. I'll put the link that way anyone that
is listening anyone that is interested into seeing
what I am is truly about what it brings to The
mental what it can help with either yourself
or someone you already know I'm excited So I'll
put the link in the bio for everyone to click
on and just go get into it. Go buy it, go buy
it, go buy it. Okay. Okay. Are you going to be
sharing on all platforms like Kindle, all that
good stuff? Okay, yes, so I'll make sure that
information I'll put the link in the bio that
way listeners can grab the book I love the fact
like I stated that it was it was poetry It was
it was full poetry and it's very rare that you've
run into a book solely made from the depths of
poetry Especially from a journey that somebody
actually went through, you know I'm used to the
basics, roses are red, valance are blue. So the
fact that there was more to the poetry here,
I think it's more, it's more than, it's more
than I think, I want to say, it'll be more enhancing
to someone who's been through almost everything
you went through. I think that it really enhanced
how they want to let out how they want to be
able to share the journey with the next person
it can give them more of a okay a confidence
booster so if they want to be able to express
so I think that yeah yeah I think that's and
that's just a starter it's just giving them just
a little audacity of hope okay So I'll leave
the information at the link here before I let
you go I would like to get to know a little more
about you. Mr. Danny here You said you were raised
in is it England here? You were raised in England?
Okay And what age did you start writing? Did
you start in 2023? When did you actually start
writing? That's when you officially picked up
the pen and started writing Okay Who encouraged
you to write was it an idea of yours to pick
up the pen? So it was just Linda okay, it was
Linda was the only one that kind of encouraged
you Yeah Where was there any Chance that there
was a time that you wanted to just stop was there
any time that you were like, you know what? I
don't think I can do this anymore. Did you ever
want to give up? The writing process Okay, so
it's kind of like it was sort of sounds like
it was like a piece of therapy for you Yeah Yeah,
is it is it purely comfortable so just let it
all out is does it feel like you're just really
truly Emptying out how you feel you're truly
emotionally dumping on a piece of paper yeah
yeah okay And I think it's ways to be okay with
expressing it as well. It's ways to know, you
know, this is purely normal. This is better than
doing what I used to do. You know, it's just
being okay, being at peace with picking that
way of releasing. You know what I'm saying? Like,
hey, you know what? I'm gonna release and put
it on the paper and I'm gonna be okay with that,
you know? So, I think that's truly interesting.
I think it was, it's very, I think it was, the
poems that you were writing, I feel like they
can be, they'll go above and beyond to the right
person. You know, the right person that's reading
those poems, they'll conceive it properly. They'll
utilize them properly. I think it'll give them
the right courage. It'll give them the right
hope that is needed, you know? so I Think it's
a nice that you were able to release after such
a journey, you know Yeah And like you said that
there will be a part two or let's say like the
sequel coming after you do the audio version,
correct? Okay, were anyone close to you affected
felt like they felt affected by the book I am
okay so it sounds like they went on an emotional
roller coaster after that okay but overall it
sounds like everyone near you could be proud
of you for letting out this way okay in tears
and that poem came out then and it was very neutral
case if anyone is battling through recovery and
addiction that relaxes actually just to be quiet
to yourself don't punish yourself and that's
what I love about the book is it was all based
on real things that were going on each time every
poem was written How were you able to stay grounded
through those times though? I think that's fascinating
how you were able to stay grounded after going
through just like even like you stated a relapse
and just to be able to provide a proper form.
What methods did you use to stay grounded? Yeah.
You got me over here wanting to cry. The fact
that you were able to find ways to communicate
going through a relapse is... I think it's top
-notch. I think... Yeah, even just... I mean,
just watching somebody go through that actual
phase. And you, you know, you were like, hey,
I've been through this. Now you're around the
energy and seeing it be affected by someone else.
And it, you know, I wouldn't know how to, I wouldn't
know how to survive a movement like that. Yeah,
were you able to get their friend help with it?
Is that more in the book where you kind of explain
what happens more? Yeah Okay Were you able to
at least show her the the Experience of using
different methods of Communicating like showing
her hey if you want to try writing a poem or
if you want to try writing or if you want to
try different ways to communicate versus using,
you know what I'm saying, because I feel like
a form of addiction, correct me if I'm wrong,
could be coming from not only just child trauma,
but also feeling misunderstood in not knowing
how to communicate and find a proper listener,
you know? Yeah, is it something that you think
most people struggle with when they get to that
phase Yeah Yeah, and I think personally what
I've learned as a life coach because I've once
been in a position where I lost The things that
I was used to so and I was I was like okay with
pulling back But then I wasn't prepared for what
comes next and then once you get into that What
comes next face? You're like, okay. So Do I pretend
like I'm okay? Do I just go give up now? You
know, it's like you're waiting on something to
come you're waiting on a call assigned something,
you know But it shows you that Rome wasn't built
in a day and it's a part of the process that
you, first off, continue to be consistent and
then you'll learn to see what the next phase
was or what does come next, you know? But I think
the hardest thing is being consistent. Yeah,
and I think living in the present. That's that's
the hardest thing for us nowadays We're always
concerned on what's gonna what's gonna be next.
Okay, I've done this now. What's next? This should
be going on It's not we have to focus on living
in the present like okay. I did this That's done
Now I just need to take a breather be happy today
that I woke up the Sun is shining just live in
the present because like I stated overthinking
you could be Our mental can be our worst enemy
at times so overthinking doesn't help Yeah, yeah,
I think I can see how that would comes out yeah,
um, and I think just like I said it having the
will to want to be consistent, having the will
to be happy that the sun is shining, you're not
where you were last year, you know? So I think
we have to sit back and just be at peace. Literally,
yeah, if it's not one thing, there will be another.
Yeah, because well that's just life so you you
can't really hop, skip to the next. As much as
we want to go from A to Z, sometimes we got to
stop, focus, take a breather, and observe, be
thankful, stop overthinking. Yeah, that's typically...
Yeah. And be okay with being in the middle ground,
because I think when we have like an anxious
mind and a mind that... that just wanders and
wanders and wanders, it's hard to sit down. It
could be very hard to stay in one place. So I
think first things first, the book, the poetry
form, the love language, the form of emotional
dumping into a lovely form of book called I Am
is going to be one step. For others outside for
the audience outside to sit down To have a breather
to just relax and read a book. I think that that'll
be helpful Know yourself Yeah, you know yourself.
I think a lot of people going through that journey
Doesn't know that they are the star You are the
star so you once you show up you get things done.
So if your mind is there As a runner, just like
mine, if you have ADHD, know that you are the
star. Know that you're the one that gets things
done. So it's okay to take a break. It's okay
to relax for a moment and feel like, oh, you
know what, I'm being lazy. It's okay because
typically you're the one, mine is running. So
knowing when to settle down, knowing when to
get up and go and just enjoy having that balance
is what I think is best. Yeah, or just be okay
with standing out. Because I personally would
never want to fit in. I'm okay with standing
out. So I think that anybody that has that vibe
get those moments where it's like, okay, something's
off in here. Well, it could be us. It could be
you. And that's okay, because you don't need
to fit in with everybody out, everybody else.
You pretty much stand out being who you are.
And we don't mean a lot of bonky brilliance,
okay? We got a lot of bonky ignorance, but it's
rare that we get bonky and brilliant. I will
take bonky and brilliant over bonky and ignorant
any day, any time. That's just me personally,
okay? But it was a pleasure speaking with you
again, of course. And like I said, I would love
for everyone listening, watching. to hit the
links at the bottom go go go by mr is it pigden
pigden pigden this is daniel pigden's book i
am it is out now you all link is will be in link
will be in the bio thank you again thank you
again this is that's just life with your favorite
life coach here mr dang you penguin thank you
for joining joining the episode and we are at
episode uh 88 now so we're growing every day
of course and uh you keep going you keep uh releasing
via poetry okay we need more of that okay i think
it's a more healthy way versus turning into drugs
that we don't need doing things that we were
doing last year that we know we shouldn't have
been doing This is a new way, writing books,
reading books, falling in love with poetry, falling
in love with someone else's journey while we
go through ours. I think it's the best way to
find balance in life. With that being said, you
have a great rest of your day and I'll see you
later, okay? Bye.