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Time valve decides to announce anything. It's

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ginormous humongous ginormous news And so yesterday

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we actually got a giant announcement out of valve

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Not the first one in this kind of lie, but the

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first one made by valve They still can't count

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to fucking three But the long -running rumors

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are true. They are putting out a steam home console

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we do have some basic technical specs on it they're

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like it's six times more powerful than a steam

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deck right um it's an amd zen 4 it's a custom

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gpu from amd 16 gigs of ddr5 and 8 gigs of gddr6

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vram there's two models one with a 512 gigabyte

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hard drive and one with a 2 terabyte drive both

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ssds right why you would have the 512 with a

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steam deck Considering steam machine considering

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how big video games are you're gonna load like

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four games on there and it's gonna be gone Internal

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power supply it's got a display port 4k to 48k

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at 60 Hertz sports HDR free sync daisy chaining

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HDMI 2 .0 for type USB a ports to USB 3 in the

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front 2 in the rear It works with other controllers

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and PC peripherals It'll wake up with the steam

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controller and they showed the controller and

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I'm gonna put this on the screen Like it because

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it looks absolutely freaking stupid I don't I'm

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trying to figure out I Feel like those little

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touch pads below the the sticks are gonna do

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something Right. Yeah, and I feel like I'm gonna

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be holding it and my hands are going to brush

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the touchpads and something's going to go wrong.

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And I, I really, I don't like the controller.

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I hate to say it, but I still like the basic,

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like 360 style Xbox controller. So far this and

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the PlayStation to like kind of a toss up. But

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yeah, that controller looks terrible. The. Thing

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itself basically looks like a box. It doesn't

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look like anything. Apparently that front plate

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is removable, so you could put like custom shit

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on the front plate here. I'm sure they'll sell

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that. Aside from that, it's a small form factor.

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So that's what we know so far. The only thing

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that they haven't talked about is how much the

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damn thing is going to cost. Right. And that's

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where I'm I'm this is where I am on this this

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thing. So toss it over to you for a second, Jay.

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You heard about this. You saw the specs. You

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know quite a bit about PCs and things. What is

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your first like initial impression of what they're

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putting out here? Yes. So my very professional

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technical review is that everything is dumb.

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It's stupid. It sucks. The design sucks. You're

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not Apple. What the fuck are you doing? The controller

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is ugly. Like are the bottom touchpads like supposed

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to be like rubbing your nipples. What is that?

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Like what is going on? And also it's just Yeah,

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my gaming PC is like way better like I don't

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know what did they say six times better than

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a steam deck steam deck. So yeah, I don't know.

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My gaming PC is probably six times better than

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this like box of shit. So. I'm hungry, so. I

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will do an honest review. This is my honest review.

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We're going to edit that first part out. It fucking

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sucks. That's my first initial. What what are

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your thoughts, Alex? I mean, it's it's a mid

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tier gaming PC. That's really what it's a mid

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tier game PC in a small form factor. Here's so

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again, it's a semi custom GPU. Tough to say whether

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that's going to be good. Apparently, the RAM

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slots are upgradable. There's some certain things

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that are upgradable, but the GPU and the CPU,

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I don't think are. And so. You're locked in it's

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it's again mid -tier The two things that I'll

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say is if you couldn't use other controllers

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with it, I would say it's a piece of garbage,

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right? I'm gonna use whatever controller I want

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with it if I get it because that controller looks

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terrible That being said again, I don't know

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why you're coming out with a 512 gigabyte version.

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It makes no sense to me that's not big enough

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to do anything with. I know because of the issues

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that I've got with my gaming PC and what I have

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to unload and reload and re -download and change

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when I get new games. Two terabytes is kind of

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the minimum right now. The upside to this is

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this. There has been many times in my life where

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I've been like, man, I would love to play my

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Steam library on my giant TV in my living room.

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Right. And I've thought that that would be nice

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to be able to play the games that I only own

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on Steam in my living room. Right. I just your

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computer downstairs now. And again, this is it.

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One is move the computer. And this is a smaller

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form factor. If I want to leave something in

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my living room, aesthetically, this is just nicer

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to have around. Right. So I'm. Very met on this.

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Here's what's going to turn it for me. I'm betting

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right now and let's let's open our little envelopes

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and somebody come back later when they release

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the price on this. I think the 512 gigabyte one

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is 799. And I think the two terabyte one is 1099.

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And this is where I. This is where I think they're

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going to fall down because even with the expanse

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of how much a PS five is right now. Right. I

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don't think you can get it into the range of

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the other console prices. I don't think you're

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going to get it down with those specifications

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to five forty nine. And so I think you are going

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to severely limit your market of I have an extensive

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steam library. And I really want to be able to

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play in my living room without moving my fucking

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PC. That's really the market here. Right. So

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that's that's why I think this is a problem for

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them is I don't think so. What did I just say?

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Seven ninety nine for the five twelve and ten

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ninety nine for the for the two terabyte at best

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at best. OK. And I won't be surprised if the

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two terabyte version is closer to 1199 or 1299

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when they launch it. I mean, do you do you see

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any flaw in my logic there? So the only thing

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I could think of is. So. They they have to be

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going into this understanding that. If they're

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going to be competitive. They have to not make

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money on this console period because Xbox does

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not make money off their console. They lose money

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on their console. They make money on accessories

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and all the games and everything like that. So

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the only thing the only way that you can get

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into the console market in my opinion is bringing

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your PC like you said. Play your PC games on

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the TV. So or you want to get into PC gaming,

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but you don't want to build your own PC. It's

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a very convenient. You have this stupid little

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box like I don't know Hellraiser cube. And then

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you can play all the PC games that everyone else

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can play, but they have to be willing to lose

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money on the console. And I I don't know if they're

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going to take that route with it. I generally

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agree with you. And so this is the other problem

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that they've got somebody in the YouTube chats

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bringing this up right now. Do they have an exclusive

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game for launch? You can't have an exclusive

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game. It's not possible. It runs on Steam OS,

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which means any game you put on it is on Steam.

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It's on PC. So it's literally impossible. Now.

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That being said. That being said. One of the

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things that's been bandied about the last 24

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hours is Will Valve finally learn to count to

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three? Could you launch this with Half Life 3

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with like a cool faceplate cover for Half Life

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3 and maybe a specialized Half Life 3 controller?

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And maybe if you buy a steam. Console, you get

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some cool in -game shit. For Half -Life 3 Do

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I see them? Possibly doing that Yes, and with

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that buoy the initial sale of these consoles

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it absolutely would But and exclusively again

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I'm trying I could probably be convinced to buy

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this if it was Less than $700 Right Yeah, but

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I don't think it's gonna be Even if you even

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if we go with your theory that they have to lose

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money on this console They're gonna lose 50 bucks

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on each unit Okay, but they're gonna make it

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up with steam games, right? Yeah And we already

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know what steams cut is it's it's big. Okay sure

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Maybe right But I don't think it's gonna be 700

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I think it's gonna be closer to To eight nine

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or a thousand and I think that right there especially

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in this economy. I Think you've priced everybody

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out Yeah, yeah Yeah, I'm at 700 and lower smart

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above 700 I don't see them Surviving in this

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or like I guess breaking into this market like

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I don't Know see like the steam deck when they

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release that that at least made some sense, right?

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I want to be able to play my steam games on the

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go and with cloud saves and everything else I

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can be playing cyberpunk 2077 on my PC Sink my

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cloud save to my steam deck and then I get on

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the bus and play cyberpunk Right that actually

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makes a certain amount of sense, right? It's

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the portability of the steam deck Makes you go.

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Okay, I get why you did this right and I've had

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a lot of people tell me they really like their

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steam decks right But again, I'm trying to see

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who the market for this is Yeah console players

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who who can't play PC exclusive games that are

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only out on PC But then I would urge you Because

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it's not hard. I would urge you just watch a

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YouTube video and build your own PC Like yes,

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it's gonna be larger than the hell razor cube

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I agree but you can upgrade it whenever you want

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like I don't buy it. If it's above seven hundred,

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don't buy it. Not with these specs. No. I mean,

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that's the thing. I want to know more. Twenty

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eight CUs, two point four or five gigahertz GPU

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max sustained clock. Poor gaming at 60 FPS with

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FSR. I want to see somebody who's going to have

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to run some crazy benchmarks once this thing

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comes out. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm really

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curious. Really, it's it's again, it's going

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to be all about the price, especially that two

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terabyte model, which is the only one I think

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is worth buying. Yeah. That's it, you know Also

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and here see I there's see there's so many things

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I keep running into Steam OS Does it have I got

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to look this up. Does it have discord? Because

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or or something like that Yeah The problem is

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that for like multiplayer games, everybody plays

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on Discord or they used to play invented things

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like that. The fact of the matter is. How are

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you going to do multiplayer with the steam. Console,

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right, where people want to talk to each other,

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like, is there going to be integrated voice chat?

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I mean, there have to be. You know Yeah, I I

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can I love valve I think they're a great company.

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They're a super smart company. I I don't I don't

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know who the market this is I don't know who

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this is for I really don't Okay, well That's

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all we got to say on this topic. Let us know

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what you think down in the comments below. Are

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you planning on picking up this new Steam console?

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What do you think of that weird looking controller?
