WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.779 We've had a lot of folks all over the internet 00:00:02.779 --> 00:00:05.839 be like, Marvel is failing, Marvel is failing, 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:08.300 and Marvel, oh, it's there, there, there. The 00:00:08.300 --> 00:00:11.580 thing about us fans is first off, we have weird 00:00:11.580 --> 00:00:14.539 short -term memory and we also have some weird 00:00:14.539 --> 00:00:16.559 Mandela effects that kind of happen with us. 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:19.739 And so I want to talk about the business of the 00:00:19.739 --> 00:00:23.260 MCU as a franchise and what they really did. 00:00:23.460 --> 00:00:26.739 And because I'm a big nerd, I made a big spreadsheet, 00:00:26.739 --> 00:00:33.990 okay, yesterday. Why? Because I'm a nerd. Okay. 00:00:34.250 --> 00:00:36.130 So we're going to talk about this for a second, 00:00:36.170 --> 00:00:38.929 but just to kind of demonstrate my point, right? 00:00:39.329 --> 00:00:44.109 I'm going to bring up a movie, a couple of movies 00:00:44.109 --> 00:00:47.750 and nobody, no looking it up. All right. Okay. 00:00:48.429 --> 00:00:52.149 But what I want to bring up is a couple of points 00:00:52.149 --> 00:00:55.929 and Jay, without looking it up, how much move 00:00:55.929 --> 00:01:00.060 money, right? Did Captain America, the first 00:01:00.060 --> 00:01:01.960 Avenger, you remember Captain America, the first 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:04.340 Avenger. That was a great movie. Right. It's 00:01:04.340 --> 00:01:06.799 great. Yeah. How much did it do at the box office? 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:12.480 Oh, God, what year did that come out? Box office. 00:01:12.819 --> 00:01:17.659 2010. Oh, God, I don't know. 2010. OK, so that 00:01:17.659 --> 00:01:20.260 was early. That was that was definitely early. 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.870 I'm going to say. I feel like it's going to be 00:01:26.870 --> 00:01:29.430 a very low number. I'm going to say 80. I'm going 00:01:29.430 --> 00:01:31.549 to say 80 million. OK, you're way off there. 00:01:31.549 --> 00:01:34.870 Right. But it did it did three hundred and seventy 00:01:34.870 --> 00:01:37.670 million and some change. Right. OK. Which was 00:01:37.670 --> 00:01:40.510 way less than Iron Man. Way less than stuff. 00:01:40.609 --> 00:01:42.290 Yeah. Chat was like five hundred billion. Nope. 00:01:42.450 --> 00:01:44.689 Three hundred and seventy, which, by the way, 00:01:44.890 --> 00:01:47.230 is less than Captain America, Brave New World 00:01:47.230 --> 00:01:50.430 or the Thunderbolts made in the box office. Right. 00:01:50.569 --> 00:01:54.290 It made less money than Thunderbolts did or Cap 00:01:54.290 --> 00:01:57.879 four. Okay, this is why I say if I would have 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:00.420 said to you what made more money Captain America 00:02:00.420 --> 00:02:02.620 first Avenger or Captain America brave new world. 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:09.219 What is your instinct? Say Captain America brave 00:02:09.219 --> 00:02:11.979 new world. Yeah, how much money did Captain Marvel 00:02:11.979 --> 00:02:14.139 make everybody wants to say Captain Marvel was 00:02:14.139 --> 00:02:16.960 a big old flop How much money did Captain Marvel 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:20.050 make in the box office? Absolutely I I thought 00:02:20.050 --> 00:02:22.370 it was a flop. Everyone was mad. They're like, 00:02:22.449 --> 00:02:25.210 oh, we have a female superhero. Females can't 00:02:25.210 --> 00:02:28.530 be superheroes. Oh, this is so mad where it's 00:02:28.530 --> 00:02:30.729 woke. How much did Captain Marvel make at the 00:02:30.729 --> 00:02:35.210 box office? Well, now I now I'm worried about 00:02:35.210 --> 00:02:41.330 my numbers. Four hundred million. One point one 00:02:41.330 --> 00:02:45.430 billion dollars. Oh, wow. That is actually really 00:02:45.430 --> 00:02:51.409 surprising. OK, Captain Marvel. made $1 .1 billion 00:02:51.409 --> 00:02:57.710 in the box office. We don't remember. So now 00:02:57.710 --> 00:02:59.889 we're going to bring up my cool, cool spreadsheet. 00:03:00.729 --> 00:03:02.789 And we're going to look at the MCU phase by phase 00:03:02.789 --> 00:03:05.789 real quick. And what I did is I tallied every 00:03:05.789 --> 00:03:09.490 box office that has been done by phase. And how 00:03:09.490 --> 00:03:13.530 much money Marvel averaged per film by phase. 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:19.680 We're going to talk about this real quick, okay? 00:03:19.939 --> 00:03:21.979 Phase one, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 00:03:21.979 --> 00:03:25.340 2, Thor, Captain America, and the Avengers to 00:03:25.340 --> 00:03:29.280 close out phase one, right? Incredible Hulk, 00:03:29.860 --> 00:03:33.439 not necessarily a flop per se, okay? Because 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:40.659 the budget wasn't that high. Not huge they averaged 00:03:40.659 --> 00:03:44.280 635 million per movie most of that dragged up 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:49.020 by the 1 .5 billion that the Avengers made Okay 00:03:49.020 --> 00:03:53.860 Phase two it gets higher. We got Iron Man 3 Thor 00:03:53.860 --> 00:03:56.939 the Dark World, right? Captain America Winter 00:03:56.939 --> 00:03:58.900 Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy Avengers Age 00:03:58.900 --> 00:04:02.539 of Ultron and Ant -Man. Okay, and with it with 00:04:02.539 --> 00:04:06.259 phase two, they average 878 million eight almost 00:04:06.259 --> 00:04:09.849 eight hundred seventy nine million per flick 00:04:09.849 --> 00:04:14.530 okay now we keep going phase three this is where 00:04:14.530 --> 00:04:17.029 marvel hits its stride and this is where i think 00:04:17.029 --> 00:04:20.730 the mandela effect comes into play okay because 00:04:20.730 --> 00:04:24.709 phase three was banger after banger after banger 00:04:24.709 --> 00:04:27.970 after banger cap civil war dr strange guardians 00:04:27.970 --> 00:04:31.310 2 spider -man homecoming thor ragnarok black 00:04:31.310 --> 00:04:34.970 panther uh Avengers Infinity War, Ant -Man of 00:04:34.970 --> 00:04:37.730 the Wasp, Captain Marvel, Avengers Endgame, Spider 00:04:37.730 --> 00:04:40.470 -Man Far From Home. That was, that was phase 00:04:40.470 --> 00:04:47.170 three. Right? And they just blew it up. Okay? 00:04:48.389 --> 00:04:54.110 They just, it was huge. Huge. Okay? Because you 00:04:54.110 --> 00:04:56.649 had, what, six movies in phase three that did 00:04:56.649 --> 00:04:59.209 more than a billion dollars. Including Captain 00:04:59.209 --> 00:05:04.569 Marvel. Right? Phase four, they take, now here's 00:05:04.569 --> 00:05:06.490 the thing, and this is the thing that I want 00:05:06.490 --> 00:05:08.810 people to think about for the business of this 00:05:08.810 --> 00:05:13.009 thing. You weren't going to redo phase three 00:05:13.009 --> 00:05:17.449 in phase four, okay? Like you hit such a stride 00:05:17.449 --> 00:05:19.490 in phase three that anything was going to be 00:05:19.490 --> 00:05:22.310 a letdown after phase four, or after phase three. 00:05:22.310 --> 00:05:25.290 It just was. So you had Black Widow, Shang -Chi, 00:05:25.290 --> 00:05:27.870 Eternals, which I think Marvel really counts 00:05:27.870 --> 00:05:30.029 as its first financial flop because the budget 00:05:30.029 --> 00:05:33.610 was massive. on the Eternals and it did not do 00:05:33.610 --> 00:05:36.649 well in the box office. Only $402 million. Spider 00:05:36.649 --> 00:05:38.410 -Man, No Way Home, Doctor Strange, Will 2 vs. 00:05:38.449 --> 00:05:40.750 Madness, Thor, Love and Thunder, Black Panther, 00:05:40.949 --> 00:05:42.529 Wakanda Forever. That's all your Phase Four movies. 00:05:43.490 --> 00:05:49.089 $815 million per film. Okay. And then we get 00:05:49.089 --> 00:05:51.910 into Phase Five, which is the one that everybody 00:05:51.910 --> 00:05:55.449 kind of bluzz on, right? Ant -Man and the Wasp, 00:05:55.569 --> 00:05:59.620 Quantum Media, Guardians 3, Right? The Marvels, 00:05:59.620 --> 00:06:02.019 which did flop, it was their second real flop. 00:06:03.139 --> 00:06:05.000 Deadpool and Wolverine, Captain America Brave 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:08.060 New World, and Thunderbolts. They're still averaging 00:06:08.060 --> 00:06:15.199 in that phase $610 million per film. Right? That's 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:19.240 a lot of money. It's a lot of money. Is it a 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:22.120 step down? Absolutely. Is Marvel worried about 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:27.319 it? No. No, they're not. Not really. And now 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:28.759 you've got the start of phase six, which started 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:30.800 with Fantastic Four New Steps. I have got this 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:34.019 highlighted at 491 million because it's not out 00:06:34.019 --> 00:06:36.899 of theaters yet, right? So as of yesterday, it 00:06:36.899 --> 00:06:40.040 was at 491 million, 904, 286. I think it's going 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:43.240 to break 500, right? By the time it leaves this 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:51.889 theatrical run. Yeah. So. For every film that 00:06:51.889 --> 00:06:54.949 they have made, they have gotten a total box 00:06:54.949 --> 00:07:06.430 office of $32 ,475 ,550 ,762 in 37 movies. $32 00:07:06.430 --> 00:07:15.110 billion. That is an average of $877 ,717 ,588 00:07:15.110 --> 00:07:25.259 per movie. Which brings me to kind of my greater 00:07:25.259 --> 00:07:33.860 point, okay Which is this Marvel is arguably 00:07:33.860 --> 00:07:36.079 the most successful film franchise that's ever 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:39.560 been done There are 37 movies in and they've 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:47.439 made 32 billion dollars, right? No, but I I cannot 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:50.800 think of a scenario of anybody who's going to 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:53.879 make that kind of a franchise run that Kevin 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:58.060 Feige did and is still doing right like it's 00:07:58.060 --> 00:08:02.000 just it's not that now before chat hits me because 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:05.160 i knew i knew somebody chat was going to go what 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:16.810 about star wars okay star wars is the movie That 00:08:16.810 --> 00:08:19.750 Star Wars is the franchise that you could argue 00:08:19.750 --> 00:08:24.730 Has done better financially, right? Looking at 00:08:24.730 --> 00:08:27.069 the 11 wide release Star Wars movies that have 00:08:27.069 --> 00:08:29.730 been released. They've there's 11 movies They've 00:08:29.730 --> 00:08:32.990 grossed ten point three billion dollars for an 00:08:32.990 --> 00:08:35.009 average of nine hundred and forty million per 00:08:35.009 --> 00:08:41.350 movie Okay You can make an argument for Star 00:08:41.350 --> 00:08:48.960 Wars right but but You can make an argument for 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:52.100 Star Wars But they don't have the track run of 00:08:52.100 --> 00:08:55.940 37 films that Marvel has and Star Wars has been 00:08:55.940 --> 00:09:02.240 around since 1977 the MCU started 2008 Okay in 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:04.779 17 years. They've made 32 billion dollars. So 00:09:04.779 --> 00:09:08.360 what's that about 1 .8 billion a year in revenue? 00:09:08.980 --> 00:09:12.779 So so that's where where I want to kick it over 00:09:12.779 --> 00:09:18.179 to you Jay, right? And ask, when I break it down 00:09:18.179 --> 00:09:20.820 this way, and based on kind of a lot of the commentary 00:09:20.820 --> 00:09:23.440 we've heard and things like that, what does this 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:30.299 make you think about this? As far as franchises 00:09:30.299 --> 00:09:34.419 go, putting your MBA, working on MBA hat on. 00:09:38.460 --> 00:09:46.779 Well, I would say, I think it would be Oh, I 00:09:46.779 --> 00:09:49.120 think it'd be a little unfair only to look at 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:54.960 movies because I will say I do remember Star 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.940 Wars when I was a kid and Episode 1 2 3 came 00:09:58.940 --> 00:10:03.299 out There was so much merch that came along with 00:10:03.299 --> 00:10:07.019 it like Star Wars Pepsi cans. That's people still 00:10:07.019 --> 00:10:12.720 have by the way Star Wars everything So much 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.909 Star Wars So I think Star Wars also brought in 00:10:15.909 --> 00:10:20.570 a lot of merch. Star Wars also has this like 00:10:20.570 --> 00:10:23.950 never ending spinoff TV series going on right 00:10:23.950 --> 00:10:31.350 now, both animated and live action. Looking just 00:10:31.350 --> 00:10:36.850 at movies, I would say Star Wars should be doing 00:10:36.850 --> 00:10:43.139 better. With less movies, because. They did start 00:10:43.139 --> 00:10:45.279 in nineteen seventy seven. And what you're going 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.940 to run into is now you're going to have parents 00:10:48.940 --> 00:10:52.080 taking their children to go see Star Wars. So 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:55.120 you have that kind of already that like nostalgic 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:57.759 like, oh, like I grew up watching Star Wars. 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:01.039 I want to take my kids to watch Star Wars. Marvel 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:07.120 coming out. What? 2010, you said. Don't super 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.529 have that or it's not. Well established yet. 00:11:11.570 --> 00:11:15.629 I would say I'm here soon. I think it'll start 00:11:15.629 --> 00:11:23.830 kicking in but Yeah, um, that's my thought, okay 00:11:24.350 --> 00:11:27.070 So I'm going to address a couple of things in 00:11:27.070 --> 00:11:28.909 the chat really quick. People who are asking 00:11:28.909 --> 00:11:31.769 questions that are tangential to this. All right, 00:11:31.929 --> 00:11:33.909 Superman, which again has not finished this theatrical 00:11:33.909 --> 00:11:36.169 run. You can still see it in theaters. As of 00:11:36.169 --> 00:11:39.169 today is at six hundred and six million six fifty 00:11:39.169 --> 00:11:43.049 eight seven ninety two worldwide. So it's well 00:11:43.049 --> 00:11:46.129 into profitability. It's 60 million over where 00:11:46.129 --> 00:11:47.950 it needed to be profitability wise. I think we 00:11:47.950 --> 00:11:51.029 talked about that a couple of weeks ago. It's 00:11:51.029 --> 00:11:56.370 doing fine for a brand new DCU where the DCEU 00:11:56.370 --> 00:11:59.929 ran the franchise into the fucking dirt, right? 00:11:59.990 --> 00:12:02.450 And you've got to build back a lot of goodwill 00:12:02.450 --> 00:12:07.889 from the audience. Superman did better than it 00:12:07.889 --> 00:12:11.669 needed to to do that. It's a very good start 00:12:11.669 --> 00:12:17.750 for the DCU. Very good start. to answer another 00:12:17.750 --> 00:12:19.529 question. People are talking about adjusting 00:12:19.529 --> 00:12:22.889 for inflation. I used to think of it that way. 00:12:23.190 --> 00:12:25.750 And then I hit again. I talk about this podcast 00:12:25.750 --> 00:12:28.370 a lot. Mr. John Campia, he does a really good 00:12:28.370 --> 00:12:30.690 editorial on why he doesn't use adjusted for 00:12:30.690 --> 00:12:34.850 inflation. And I agree with it. Right. So for 00:12:34.850 --> 00:12:36.929 the longer version of what I'm about to say, 00:12:37.330 --> 00:12:40.149 go watch his editorial on this. But the fact 00:12:40.149 --> 00:12:43.009 of the matter is, is the reason it's hard to 00:12:43.009 --> 00:12:46.090 do adjust for inflation is this. If you look 00:12:46.090 --> 00:12:47.990 at adjusted for inflation, people talk about 00:12:47.990 --> 00:12:51.370 Gone with the Wind, right? Okay. How long was 00:12:51.370 --> 00:12:55.490 Gone with the Wind in theaters? Probably like 00:12:55.490 --> 00:12:57.450 36 years, right? It was like the only movie. 00:12:57.549 --> 00:13:01.730 Two and a half years. It was in theaters for 00:13:01.730 --> 00:13:03.649 two and a half years. Nothing's in theaters for 00:13:03.649 --> 00:13:05.350 two and a half years. Who knows how much money 00:13:05.350 --> 00:13:07.649 can be made? And what that brings about is this. 00:13:08.149 --> 00:13:12.399 At various iterations of time, Where people spent 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:14.460 money and where people spent their entertainment 00:13:14.460 --> 00:13:20.899 hours varied heavily, okay? Movies now are not 00:13:20.899 --> 00:13:23.039 just competing with other movies. It's not like 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:25.899 the 1990s when episode one came out where everybody 00:13:25.899 --> 00:13:27.379 had a smartphone in their pocket and they could 00:13:27.379 --> 00:13:29.019 spend their time watching Netflix, YouTube and 00:13:29.019 --> 00:13:32.259 not leave the fucking house, right? In a post 00:13:32.259 --> 00:13:34.559 COVID era with the cost of movie tickets these 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:36.139 days and the number of tickets that are sold, 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:38.940 et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. trying to figure 00:13:38.940 --> 00:13:42.440 out all the various economic factors that go 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:46.059 into should we adjust this for inflation? And 00:13:46.059 --> 00:13:49.259 again, if Gone With The Wind came out today, 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:52.460 would it sell as many tickets as it did in the 00:13:52.460 --> 00:13:55.659 1930s when it came out? And I have to say the 00:13:55.659 --> 00:14:00.000 answer is probably no. Right. So that's why I, 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:02.299 you know, using just the raw box office numbers 00:14:02.299 --> 00:14:05.299 is still probably just the best metric to use. 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:10.879 The other question is do they do well in the 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:13.379 theater take the Star Wars sequels because everyone 00:14:13.379 --> 00:14:15.080 goes to a movie like that hoping to do something 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:18.100 good So here's the thing and this is you could 00:14:18.100 --> 00:14:20.919 pretty well bear this out If people don't like 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:22.820 a movie, they don't go back and movies people 00:14:22.820 --> 00:14:26.799 don't go back to don't make billions Right. You 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:35.779 can say rightfully that the the fandom as we 00:14:35.779 --> 00:14:39.220 move through the sequel trilogy It lost steam. 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:44.460 Force Awakens did two billion plus. Episode eight 00:14:44.460 --> 00:14:47.000 only did one point three billion. Episode nine 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:53.299 only did a billion. And so they went down as 00:14:53.299 --> 00:14:59.379 it went. So. Again, it's Star Wars, so everybody's 00:14:59.379 --> 00:15:01.240 going to it's cultural. Everyone's going to see 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:05.320 it, but you see it with episode seven. Everybody 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:08.139 went back and back and back and back and back 00:15:08.139 --> 00:15:11.360 to see episode seven Whereas you didn't get that 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.120 kind of run back with episode eight and nine 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:15.419 It was one of those were just everybody fucking 00:15:15.419 --> 00:15:18.039 saw it. So that's that's where I would break 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.320 that down There's also yes somebody else brought 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:23.940 this in there's a fewer second -run theaters 00:15:23.940 --> 00:15:25.279 I don't know if you remember this when you were 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:28.299 a kid Jay But I know I know it was a thing when 00:15:28.299 --> 00:15:30.320 I was a kid where you had primary run theaters 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:31.779 where they did their first part of their theatrical 00:15:31.779 --> 00:15:34.759 run and then second run theaters where After 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:36.600 they left the primary there was still time to 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:39.320 go see them in theaters a kind of budget theaters, 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:44.220 right? Those don't really exist anymore. They're 00:15:44.220 --> 00:15:49.460 gone. Those businesses just don't happen Well, 00:15:49.460 --> 00:15:53.159 it also just doesn't make sense because now we 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:57.799 Now you can get movies to streaming services 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:02.000 as well as out on blu -ray or whatever a lot 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:05.220 quicker than those if that's why that kind of 00:16:05.220 --> 00:16:10.379 the cheaper Market kind of for moviegoers kind 00:16:10.379 --> 00:16:13.159 of existed because there is such a long period 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:16.519 before they would come out on VHS six months 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:21.789 on average And that's the other thing is a lot 00:16:21.789 --> 00:16:24.490 of the the movie studios and now Disney I think 00:16:24.490 --> 00:16:27.809 has learned from this you'll saw it last year, 00:16:28.250 --> 00:16:32.149 right? Where they started extending their theatrical 00:16:32.149 --> 00:16:33.990 runs again and going look we're not putting this 00:16:33.990 --> 00:16:36.769 on Disney plus Thunderbolts just got to Disney 00:16:36.769 --> 00:16:42.769 plus I think this week right and They have really 00:16:42.769 --> 00:16:45.070 extended their theatrical windows and I think 00:16:45.070 --> 00:16:46.409 that that's good because a lot of the studios 00:16:46.409 --> 00:16:49.580 have trained the audience Eh, I'll just wait 00:16:49.580 --> 00:16:51.960 until it comes to streaming in two months, which 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:54.879 I think is one of the reasons why the raw number 00:16:54.879 --> 00:17:01.139 of tickets go down, right? And yeah, movie theaters 00:17:01.139 --> 00:17:03.159 these days are a real hard proposition when the 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:04.640 cost of tickets, half the cost of voting in the 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:06.039 movie, I'd rather just wait and buy the movie. 00:17:06.180 --> 00:17:08.000 And I think that that's a lot of people's attitude 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:10.900 now. And I think that's why you're seeing certain 00:17:10.900 --> 00:17:14.559 movies flop, right? Where unless it's like an 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.440 event movie, not as many people are going. Right. 00:17:18.460 --> 00:17:20.380 I've seen a lot of good movies in the in the 00:17:20.380 --> 00:17:22.420 theaters. We've talked about this much this year 00:17:22.420 --> 00:17:25.160 that were great movies that fucking nobody saw. 00:17:28.380 --> 00:17:34.359 That sucks. So but would you argue, do you think 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:37.240 that what Feige has done with Marvel can be replicated? 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:42.700 Can be replicated. Thirty seven movies averaging 00:17:42.700 --> 00:17:46.019 almost a billion dollars a movie, almost 900 00:17:46.019 --> 00:17:51.400 million, let's be fair. I, I think it, I personally 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:55.839 think it could, but I don't think anyone is going 00:17:55.839 --> 00:18:02.240 to have the drive to do it, to be honest, because 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:06.140 to go through that many movies, I mean, keep 00:18:06.140 --> 00:18:09.039 in mind a lot of people like to kind of come 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:12.980 in, get their success off of one project or maybe 00:18:12.980 --> 00:18:15.420 a couple of projects. They move on to something 00:18:15.420 --> 00:18:22.160 else. And you need some sort of consistency. 00:18:22.779 --> 00:18:26.000 And I think that's kind of what DC has kind of 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.759 really struggled with. But yeah, I think it could 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.740 be done. I don't think anyone actually wants 00:18:33.740 --> 00:18:36.839 to put in the work to do it, though. That makes 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:41.420 sense. It absolutely makes sense. And again, 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:44.640 that's why, again, I could say you can arguably 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:47.980 say that the MCU is the most the most successful 00:18:47.980 --> 00:18:52.940 franchise of all time. Right. It just is. And 00:18:52.940 --> 00:18:56.119 anybody who thinks that, you know, the other 00:18:56.119 --> 00:18:57.559 thing I wanted to break down on this, and this 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:00.119 is, again, why I think it is. Let's look at what's 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:06.779 coming. All right. Phase six. OK. We have Fantastic 00:19:06.779 --> 00:19:10.339 Four First Steps, which is out. Right. The next 00:19:10.339 --> 00:19:13.299 movie is Spider -Man Brand New Day. Does anybody 00:19:13.299 --> 00:19:15.240 think that movie is not going to make a billion 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:28.599 dollars? Avengers Doomsday. So far, an Avengers 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:34.700 movie has never not made a billion dollars. Marvel 00:19:34.700 --> 00:19:38.700 has a hold spot on a movie, on a film next July 00:19:38.700 --> 00:19:41.329 that nobody knows what it is. Nobody knows if 00:19:41.329 --> 00:19:46.089 it's a hold spot or what they're doing. I suspect 00:19:46.089 --> 00:19:49.410 it's Doctor Strange 3. Right. And it's going 00:19:49.410 --> 00:19:51.170 to come out between Doomsday and Secret Wars, 00:19:51.230 --> 00:19:54.390 much like Ant -Man and the Wasp came out between 00:19:54.390 --> 00:19:57.150 Infinity War and Endgame and introduced the quantum 00:19:57.150 --> 00:19:58.769 tunnel and the quantum realm and all the shit 00:19:58.769 --> 00:20:03.890 they needed for for Endgame. I think it's I think 00:20:03.890 --> 00:20:05.869 it's the next Doctor Strange. But again, and 00:20:05.869 --> 00:20:07.490 do you think Avengers Secret Wars is not going 00:20:07.490 --> 00:20:15.279 to make a billion dollars? Okay They're gonna 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:16.819 average more than a billion dollars in phase 00:20:16.819 --> 00:20:24.619 six per movie Okay, he's gonna be up right around 00:20:24.619 --> 00:20:26.880 40 billion by the time he gets to the end of 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:35.920 phase six So Yeah, anyway, let us know what you 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:39.210 think in the comments below Do you think it's 00:20:39.210 --> 00:20:41.789 the most successful franchise of all time or 00:20:41.789 --> 00:20:44.190 what do you guys think? Let us know