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Jay, we reviewed it. We both love the movie.
Let's get into the spoilers. And I think one
of the funniest ones up front is why crypto is
such an asshole. There's a great shot Millie
Alcock and Supergirl comes in and she is not
like buttoned up by sweet Supergirl She's like
have party girl. Whoo At the end and she comes
in and cryptos like yeah and And Superman looks
at the robot at four and he's like this is why
that dog is so fucked up Yeah And I I loved it
I love it I love she straight up was like, thanks
for watching him, bitch. Like, holy shit. I was
like, that was probably one of my favorite lines
of the entire movie was that she was like, thanks
for watching a bitch. Definitely. I died. Definitely
one of my favorite lines. I also loved the I'm
not Superman line. Yeah. Just before hot girl
just fucking dropped his ass. Oh, yeah So let's
let's go back kind of to the beginning They set
this up like it's it's in it's in words right
at the front Look meta humans have been around
for a long time This shit's been going on forever
Superman's been around for three years. Here's
the timeline, right? So you they make you understand
up front This is not, oh, we're just learning
about superheroes, right? Which I think is good.
I'm glad they've done that. Yeah. Yep. 100 %
like this is the world is accustomed to metahumans.
It's nothing new. It's kind of a typical Friday.
Yeah, we don't we don't like fucking waste time
it just jumps in He gets his ass kicked. He heels
up real quick goes and get his ass kicked again
like Yeah Yeah, we jump straight in right okay,
he's already he went to Boravia once he messed
it dude up he came back now this the hammer of
Arabia's here and We're doing some stuff and
we we very quickly learn that it's all being
controlled by Lex. Lex is setting this whole
thing up. They don't they don't hide that from
the jump, right? Like Superman, the other characters
are digging through it as they go. He who we
as the audience, we're not they're not hiding
shit from us. Lex is behind the whole thing.
So, again, this was the part, the kind of the
setup. The getting to the point where Lex breaks
into the Fortress of Solitude, where he gets
the stuff with Superman's parents, the rest of
the message, which, you know, so the whole setup
of this is that Superman's only seen the first
half of the message his parents sent, and they
were like, go there, do things for humanity,
you're more powerful, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, but he doesn't know what the end of the
message says. And then Lex breaks into the fortress
of solitude with the engineer. They capture crypto
and we're going to come back to that because
boy. Right. I really didn't think he was going
to John Wick Luther through the out of the building.
Oh, my God. I. Because I told you before we kind
of like went to the movie. I was like, yeah,
like it would be kind of really interesting if
he did do something bad to the dog and you just
he Superman just come unglued and just freaking
laser beam half their freaking planet and like
I kind of felt like we almost got that. We almost
got there like it was close. Because that was
like the shit my my family sent me to this planet
to actually rule over them fuck everyone hates
me That's the thing they set up is Luther steals
the second half of the message and places like
see and It's it's Jor -el played by Bradley Cooper.
Although he doesn't really speak anything in
English, but it is interesting. It's Bradley
Cooper as Jor -el Because James Gunn likes using
the same actors for multiple things Right. Yeah,
which is fine. The girl who played Mantis was
one of the robots. The guy who played what's
from Guardians with the. Mohawk, the. Oh, Michael
Rooker. He plays one of the robots. Right. So,
you know, we're having a nice little Guardians
reunion in Superman. But yeah, the whole setup
is, oh, no, Surinam's parents actually sent him
here to rule Earth. Right. to spread his seed.
Wink, wink. Right. And like they're straight
up. And I was like, did he fake it? And then
like through the whole movie, they almost worked
to convince you like, no, no, they weren't faking
it. Like that's what Superman's parents. So I'm
like, oh, so we got fucked up, Jarrell, in this
universe. Yeah, I I was like, did this shit happen
in the comics? Because I have never heard fucking
this story at one. I was like, holy shit, this
is dark. I'm which to kind of give you an idea
of how kind of dark it is. I mean, you do have
a hot girl dropping and killing someone. But
then you also have Lex. I was not expecting this
Lex straight up and went in front of Superman
when he couldn't do shit about it. And I was
like. That was the part where I was like, oh,
we're actually making Lex evil, evil. Yeah, this
isn't this isn't. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh,
my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh,
my god. See, yeah that set up getting to that
point again kind of was the part that dragged
for me once we got past that We get metamorphose
It was now. All right, they set up earlier in
the movie the kryptonites gone. There's no kryptonite
left on earth, right? Yeah But metamorphose can
turn himself into kryptonite, which is what F
sub Superman He is captured what he turns himself
in because of all the stuff that happens Right.
Because the last part of the message and all
that stuff. Well, he kind of he kind of turned
himself in to find to find the dog because he
was like, yeah, hopefully, like they'll take
me where like they're holding the dog. Yeah.
And they do. They do. The other sequence that
dragged a little bit that I think they probably
could have cut 30 to 45 seconds off of. Was in
the river in the weird like proton river where
everybody's getting disintegrated Right. I was
holding the baby up. I'm like, yeah, we get it.
He's holding the baby up. He's fighting the guys
like That one took a little longer than I think
we needed Yeah that sequence Still good sequence
and it gets metamorpho on side. Okay now metamorphose
our buddy Yeah, right because I saved this kid
Yep, right and and that's the other thing in
this movie. One of the things is but being evil
It's when Lex shoots the guy in front of Metamorpho
Metamorpho is afraid of Lex. He's only hurting
Superman because Lex has his kid, right? I'm
sure it was like I'll get your kid and Metamorphos
like nope Lex is too powerful. I can't do it.
And then Lex he watches Lex murk the falafel
vendor Right and that's what metamorphose like
okay like I can't I I think that's like a very
like real response that I think a lot of people
would have because like think about it if Lex
is going to straight -up murder someone that
Just gave Superman a falafel one day. Yep. Like
there's no safety like there Because he's he's
holding his son hostage, like, hey, like you,
you have kryptonite on Superman. Basically, I'm
not going to hurt your kid. All of that shit
goes out the window. When you see like Lex Luthor,
just kill a random fucking guy in front of you.
It's like, dude, none of us are safe. Like, yeah,
we like what's going to stop them from just killing
everyone and killing my son. Right. So why am
I bothering? Yep. So I thought that was a really
good solid turn for Metamorpho. Again, I loved
Nathan Fillion in this movie. He's in so much
more of it and his fighting is so funny In fact,
there's a great sequence and you see part of
it in one of the the TV spots where in the background
you see Superman and there's a big thing floating
in the background and he's just got to sit there
and Lois comes in and she's like shouldn't you
help them with that thing? And he's like, nah,
it's just a dimensional imp. It's fine They've
got it and you can see green lantern shit hitting
at the background like he's creating giant baseball
bats and hammers It's it's so funny to me because
like I got a sense like they were struggling
to handle this and Superman so I know they're
fine. Why? It's fine. It's nothing Yeah, you
just see them having this like crazy fight sequence
in the background but Love that love that sequence.
I love me the feeling of this, you know And we
get our we get our first look at the Hall of
Justice, but they're not the Justice League yet.
They're the Justice Gang. We're not called the
Justice Gang. We're the Justice Gang. Like. I
like how they're struggling to figure out their
name right now. I'm like and Lois is like, I
thought Superman was a member. He's like, no,
he's too nice. Yeah, he won't let us kill people.
Which is a conflict early in the movie when they're
fighting the kaiju Because Green Lantern the
hot girl of Mr. Terrific like fuck it just killed
a giant kaiju and sir man's like no We don't
kill things. I was trying to find a way to capture
it. They kill it He's like mad at them about
it Yeah, but that actually sets up nicely with
the hot girl thing later because again those
three established like look We're not above killing
shit if we have to and so when they have the
fight at the end in Boravia and Hot girls carrying
the evil president of Arabia who's with looks
I loved it. He was like you want to kill me your
like Superman. She's just like yeet She's like
watch this bitch. Hi Oh, God. That was a good
moment. Great moment. I loved it. Yeah. Oh, God.
So it's like every every part of the movie was
like amazing to me. I loved the part with his,
I don't know, foster parents and where his dad
is like, it's not. the plays of your parents
to tell you who you are. We're supposed to just
provide you tools to for you to figure out who
you are. Basically, I was like, damn, that's
such a good line. This goes to the thing that
you and I talked about right out of the theater.
And I think it's the most important piece. If
you look at gun stuff within this genre, go back
to Guardians, the entire Guardians trilogy, including
and plus the holiday special is all about family.
Right. The first movie is about found family.
The second movie is about how that found family
is more important than your biological family,
his battle with ego and everything else. And
the third movie is about Rocket and family and
the families that Rocket's been through, the
one that was taken from him. And James Gunn is
so good at having family as an underpinning of
so much of what he does. And even though the
so first off, I'm glad Mod Pod Kent aren't dead.
Right. We don't need pocket to be dead again.
Thank you. Oh, also side note. These are the
most realistic looking Kansas farmers I've ever
seen in a Superman movie. I'm sorry. Kevin Costner
is not look like what most Kansas farmers look
like. OK, let's just be real here. These two
looked like Kansas farmers who were at home watching
Fox News. Yeah, I love the mothers. like screaming
into the phone on like the table. I was like,
dear golly, this is so this is so accurate. Yeah.
Yeah. You really got the sense of. Like this
is, I don't know, real. And I love the part where
Mr. Terrific was like, you brought the fucking
dog and he's like, yeah, I didn't want him to
eat my my parents' house. And I'm like, oh, my
God. And again, the underpinning of family starts
at the beginning where when he's getting healed,
they're playing the message from Jarell and Superman's
mom and the robots are like, he finds it comforting.
And then at the end of the film, after we found
out all the fucked up shit that Jarell said,
now the robot say it again and you're like, wait,
well, he's going to watch Jarell again. And then
it's actually Ma and Pa Kent and home videos
of that. So the family underpinning just runs
this whole This whole line in the movie and James
Gunn always weaves that shit in so well Yeah,
it's not cheesy at all No, it's good. No he he
does it right, you know cuz it's not like fast
and furious family But it really is family is
an underpinning of this film and it's it's so
well done I think what else one time mr. Terrific
has a substantial role in the film and he's he's
kind of the MVP to Yeah, fuck and I love the
fact that he was like, oh I'm I'm only helping
out to piss off the Green Lantern The other part
that I like is, oh, there was the line where
Lois is like, you put nanites in Superman's blood.
Do you do that to all your friends? He's like,
yeah. Yeah. Everyone just like looks at themselves
like girls like, wait, what? Oh, my God. And
I do also love the scene with him and Lois where
he's like, he tells Lois, like, I don't do that
emotional shit. And Lois is like, Oh, yeah, I
know. I'm just like thinking out loud of like
how, you know, I just wanted to tell them that
I loved him. But, you know, I was thinking about
breaking up with him and all. And he's just like.
What did I just say? Just looks at her. I was
like, Oh, my God. Oh, God. It was amazing. Oh,
yeah, it was great. Again, Nathan Philly does
some great stuff with his lantern powers, including
a sequence where he's flipping the bird, the
lantern bird. Oh, I was dying. All right. Again,
kind of going back to the end, we talked about
it a little earlier. We know the next movie coming
out is Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow, right? And
I think we got a sense of the type of Supergirl
we got. I am so excited. Holy crap. I'm excited
for that. She's a hot mess. She was in there
for all the two minutes and I'm like, oh, I need
to see this movie. Yeah. Yeah. And she's going
to be fighting Jason Momoa as Lobo is the primary
antagonist in her film. So. That shit's going
to get crazy. Oh. Yeah. I'm looking forward to
it. I'm excited. I am excited. I'm excited for
the DC like universe. I'm excited for the more
excited for it now than with our soft launches.
All right. So let's do this. I'm just going to
make a quick note here for our our thing. What
so what does this tell you about where they're
going with the DCU? Um, this is a very full world
full of heroes. Yeah. So to me, I think we're
going to see a March very much how Marvel did
with end game. You're going to have these movies
that are going to string together. I don't think
we're going to get a full Justice League until
you kind of assemble. all of your members and
then they're all going to come together for like
this epic fight. You can't do it for a little
bit. Yeah. Because this is the other one we talked
about on our way out of the theater. Batman.
And by the way, for anybody that's like he'll
just connect to Matt Reeves. No, that Batman
does not fit in this world. OK, that Batman is
great. And I love the Batman. And I'm looking
forward to the Batman, too. And I think the Penguin
is great. Yeah. But I have a cat right in front
of my thing here. Oh, God. Oh, nice. Who they
cast as Batman and how Batman interacts with
Superman is critical. Yep. And I agree, I. Do
you think they've already got it? Do you think
they know who it is? Comic cons coming up and
DC is gonna be there I Feel like they do um Do
you think we get a Batman announcement at Comic
Con? Oh, I don't know Since we have like the
Batman 2 coming out. Um It wouldn't surprise
me Yeah So the Batman we're getting is Batman
the brave and the bold so that what's interesting
too about this is that Batman This is gonna be
an older Batman And I think this is gonna be
a Batman. Who's two or three Robins in right?
Oh, I think Dick Grayson's already a night wing
at this point. I would be willing to bet Jason
Todd is dead air quotes, right and and I think
this is gonna have a lot to do with Damien Wayne
Hmm, right So That's what I think we're gonna
see with this Batman and again, it's gonna be
an older Batman as some curious How it's gonna
play off with corn sweat who's still a fairly
young Superman. He's a superman for three years.
You figure he's probably what late 20s early
30s, maybe Yeah, um cuz they're very clear he's
only been Superman for three years Yep Yeah,
I want to say for some weird reason With the
timeline, I don't remember exactly how it worked
out but I I remember in the movie being like,
okay, so Superman's 27 I'm Not sure if that's
accurate or not but it could be because again
they say he's been Superman for three years because
at the beginning they do the Meta humans have
been here for 300 years bringing about the age
of the gods and monsters Third no, they said
30 years ago. He crashed on earth Yeah, and it's
27 years since he crashed from the time he crashed
the time he comes to me because they go 30 years
ago He crashed on earth three years ago. He became
Superman and now there's today So yeah, so he's
30 So he's still fairly young And again, I think
we're gonna get an older Batman And I think that
works really, really well because I think Batman
is going to be very an older Batman's going to
be like, no, you don't understand how the world
works because Superman, like he wants to trust
everyone. He sees the good in everyone. And then
you're going to have a very old Batman who's
lost a couple of Robbins seen some shit. Yeah.
And he'd be like, no, you don't fucking understand.
This is how the world works. This is how we have
to do things and Superman is gonna be You know
a hundred percent like no like that's not how
it has to be Bruce and he's gonna be like shut
the fuck up Stop using my name. Um But yeah,
like I think that works really really well with
like the Batman Superman dynamic having a younger
Superman and an older Batman And again Right
now, they're saying that this next one. Yeah,
it'll be Damien Wayne is the Robin. OK, this
is Robin number three or four. And this is his
son who was raised by the assassins. Bruce's
son. Yeah, this is an older Bruce that we're
going to get. Yeah. I'm looking forward to Supergirl
now. And actually, you mentioned this as we were
coming out of the theater, too. We loved Nathan
fill in a screen lantern, but our next big project
is actually lanterns For the DCU So we're gonna
get we're gonna get a bunch of lanterns Which
I'm excited for I I love that shit. I am I They
finally did the Green Lantern justice to me in
this movie because I mean Ryan Reynolds it was
just I do I need to I need a comment on that.
By the way, the bowl cut actually works the whole
movie. Like I forgot about the bowl cut, except
when people would bring it up. It actually fits
his face. And the only time I remembered it later
was when Lois the hot girl was like, that haircut
should be gets your vows. Oh, my God. So that
scene. I love that scene because they were like
Lois Lane was trying to get their get their help
to save Superman. And the green lanterns like
I can't get into politics. I took a valid against
my vows and then hot girls like, no, he says
that like every single time he just doesn't want
to do anything. And I was like, oh, that's that's
hilarious. I love Nathan Fillion is slated to
be at least appear in the lantern show, but he's
not the main character. So Kyle Chandler and
Aaron Pierre are playing the Hal Jordan and John
Stewart lanterns, respectively. Well, Nathan,
so we know on Earth there are at least three
lanterns. Right. The other one I'm really curious
about is the flash. Like, that's where I want
to see what they do. I love the flash as a character.
Oh, God, I oh, God, you. Oh, I read growing up,
I read more flash comic books than any other
comic. I am you can do so much with the flash.
I would say the casting doesn't have to be perfect
for the Flash. Sorry, everyone. But yes, how
they're going to tie the Flash into this future
Justice League is going to be very interesting.
Let's see. It is July 8th, 2025 as we record
this spoiler talk for Superman. I'm thinking
Justice League is probably twenty twenty -nine
or twenty thirty. I would say twenty. Yeah, I
would say probably. Twenty -nine. Yeah. They
better get moving though because they again,
so for setup, you've got Superman and Supergirl,
right? Those are already in the can. They're
done. We're good. We still don't have a Batman.
We still don't have a Wonder Woman. We still
don't have a flash. I don't think you need an
Aquaman because I don't think Aquaman is a critical
character for the Justice League per se. You've
got three green lanterns. You've got a hot girl.
You've got Mr. Terrific. You you're building
a solid roster already. Yeah, like that's it.
That's oh, that is impressive. Who who do you
think the villain is going to be in I Don't know
Lex Luthor and the Joker teaming up. Hey, I'm
gonna See, yeah, I mean they're building a good
roster for the Justice League. I see where they're
going I don't know who the villains gonna be
I Mean I think Lex is gonna be the one to put
them in play kind of like how Loki Was put in
play by Thanos and that was all a big misdirect.
I think that'll be part of it If somebody's gonna
go to Lex and be like I can help you defeat them,
you know That's tough yeah, that's real tough
We need a Batman it's gonna be it's gonna be
critical Because how him and Superman interact
is gonna be important and I think that's where
Snyder went wrong Because we're immediately we
started the Snyder verse with Batman v Superman
Really right we had man of steel Batman v Superman.
I'm like, wait a minute We're already in antagonistic
mode With Batman and Superman like no Like that's
not what I want Yeah, yeah, that's true so Any
other predictions we're gonna get another Superman
I think we'll get Superman 2 before we get Justice
League Yeah, probably I I do think They'll probably
milk Superman like the Superman universe for
everything that That they can like because I
mean this movie is it's going to be huge. This
is a huge hit movie I think they knocked it out
of the park They're going to follow it up. They're
going to continue that momentum with supergirl
So for me They it doesn't make sense for them
not to do another superman movie Especially if
supergirl does really well So yeah, I think we
will get a Superman too. So well, yeah, I mean
the same before Justice League Yeah, before right
now the latest box office projections have Superman
at a very reasonable 120 to 130 million domestically
for the opening weekend Do you think that's soft
or do you think that that it's gonna hit like
you think that's that's probably about right?
Whoo, I'm gonna say soft. I'm gonna say soft
because Schools out for all the kids. It's summer
summer break and this is a four quadrant That's
the other difference between this and the Snyder
verse you can take kids to this movie and they're
gonna like it They're not gonna like Batman v
Superman Right. Yeah, that was not for kids Very
true and um, yeah, this is very kid friendly
just Ba ba ba ba ba ba. I mean, if you have my
kid. I mean, yeah. But no, I think I think it's
like a whole family fun. Yeah, kids are going
to enjoy it. Now, the studio, they're playing
smart. The studio Warner Brothers is being like
100 to 110. Some of the projection companies
that do this for the industry, like now it's
going to hit 140. I think Warner Brothers is
like 100, 110 because they feel safe there. Yeah.
Yeah. Its budget was 225 million, so it's got
to do close to five fifty six hundred to break
even. It's marketing and they marketed the shit
out of this movie. Oh God, yes. I think I mentioned
it during the podcast like when we were flying
to and from Michigan You for everything you wanted
to watch a movie you have to watch Superman trailer
You want to connect to the internet? You have
to watch Superman trailer the little icon like
at the bottom of the screen That's like oh like
Seattle and then like Michigan and like it kind
of shows your progression Was the superman logo
they they suit like i'm surprised. I maybe they
do i'm surprised. We don't have a fucking starbucks
superman drink Yeah, me too um Trying to think
if there's any other spoilery stuff we want to
talk about uh, but I think we hit it all I mean,
yeah, I think yeah, I think we um I think we
covered everything well folks leave us down in
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think of Superman? Is there anything that you
saw in the movie that kind of hints to the future
of the DC universe? Things that you're looking
forward to in the new DC universe Let us know
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