WEBVTT 00:00:00.300 --> 00:00:03.379 So, obviously, Andor just ended and it's getting 00:00:03.379 --> 00:00:06.299 rave reviews and there's been some great things 00:00:06.299 --> 00:00:09.119 lately. Skeleton Clue is really, really good. 00:00:09.900 --> 00:00:12.259 Again, Andor, great. There's been some good stuff 00:00:12.259 --> 00:00:14.699 that comes out of Star Wars. But most Star Wars 00:00:14.699 --> 00:00:18.859 fans would generally agree that the sequel trilogy 00:00:18.859 --> 00:00:23.000 of 7, 8, and 9 are not, shall we say, the best 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.940 thing that has come out of Star Wars in the history 00:00:25.940 --> 00:00:31.960 of Star Wars. The question that has been posed 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:40.060 right is If they were is there a case to be made 00:00:40.060 --> 00:00:46.759 for Disney to White this great clean say seven 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:50.340 eight nine are no longer canon and let's start 00:00:50.340 --> 00:00:55.450 over on seven eight nine or Should they just 00:00:55.450 --> 00:00:56.950 accept that look we made this movies are not 00:00:56.950 --> 00:00:59.509 the best but they're canon It is what it is and 00:00:59.509 --> 00:01:01.630 we're just gonna make better stuff going forward. 00:01:01.630 --> 00:01:07.590 So that's the question on the table is Should 00:01:07.590 --> 00:01:12.569 Disney retcon the sequel trilogy and just erase 00:01:12.569 --> 00:01:17.730 it from our collective Star Wars canon Jay, what's 00:01:17.730 --> 00:01:27.579 your immediate gut reaction? Oh my gosh, what 00:01:27.579 --> 00:01:29.439 was this like tonight? You're just like, let's 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:33.620 see how many people we can make mad. Oh my gosh. 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:37.079 There we go. So seven, eight, nine. We're specifically 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:39.280 talking about Ray, right? We're talking about 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:44.599 the Ray trilogy. Yeah, we'll call it that. If 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:50.180 they could, should they wipe those from the the 00:01:50.180 --> 00:01:56.519 existence of Star Wars Canon? Oh God, I'm gonna 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:03.920 say no Okay, I'm gonna say no So this is the 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:06.420 argument that I've had with this particular viewer 00:02:06.420 --> 00:02:15.300 many times No, they shouldn't Okay now Can we 00:02:15.300 --> 00:02:17.439 say look we're not gonna go back and rewatch 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:19.719 a rise in a Skywalker a whole bunch of times 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:22.400 No, we're not. I haven't watched it in years 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:26.650 because it's trash Force Awakens was pretty good 00:02:26.650 --> 00:02:31.330 last Jedi was what had its very good parts, right? 00:02:32.530 --> 00:02:35.310 Wasn't exactly perfectly executed in the rise 00:02:35.310 --> 00:02:42.430 of Skywalker was trash but but Trying to go back 00:02:42.430 --> 00:02:47.650 and retcon him is not the solution for Star Wars 00:02:47.650 --> 00:02:52.129 as a Genre as a is a is sorry as a franchise 00:02:53.399 --> 00:02:58.780 It just gets too complicated for them, right? 00:02:59.740 --> 00:03:01.379 One, you basically have to wipe in front of existence 00:03:01.379 --> 00:03:07.240 and you don't want to do that, right? Two, you 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:10.840 confuse the crap out of the general audience, 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:14.219 right? And I'm not talking about those of us 00:03:14.219 --> 00:03:17.340 deep in the fandom with our cool Star Wars hoodies, 00:03:18.060 --> 00:03:21.099 right? I'm talking about the general audience, 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:27.960 right? I just don't think that there's a benefit 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:31.560 for Disney to do so. I think the benefit would 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:35.039 be to move forward. Go forward in time. No more 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:37.740 prequels. No more middle of the empire shit. 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:46.819 Let's, let's... That way. Right? Or worst -case 00:03:46.819 --> 00:03:49.240 scenario do like that old Republic thing They've 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:51.780 been planning for a long time and go so far back 00:03:51.780 --> 00:03:54.199 in time that the the current timeline doesn't 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:58.300 matter That's I mean, that's actually what I 00:03:58.300 --> 00:04:09.340 want to see personally Absolutely 100 % I Will 00:04:09.340 --> 00:04:11.580 ask you this question because this has been posted 00:04:11.580 --> 00:04:14.610 now opposed a different way in the chat Do you 00:04:14.610 --> 00:04:17.990 reboot the so and I will use Harry Potter as 00:04:17.990 --> 00:04:22.670 our example, right? So we made the Harry Potter 00:04:22.670 --> 00:04:28.389 movies, right they exist Warner Brothers has 00:04:28.389 --> 00:04:34.029 opted to start over Right. We're rebooting it 00:04:34.029 --> 00:04:38.050 completely We're gonna start it again book one 00:04:38.050 --> 00:04:40.290 as a TV show this time, but we're starting it 00:04:40.290 --> 00:04:44.970 again Total 100 % reboot, recast everything. 00:04:45.529 --> 00:04:48.269 They're doing that right now. Time will tell 00:04:48.269 --> 00:04:51.670 us whether it be successful. Do you think Disney 00:04:51.670 --> 00:04:56.069 should do the same thing with Star Wars? I think 00:04:56.069 --> 00:05:00.350 Harry Potter is different. I think. Like to its 00:05:00.350 --> 00:05:04.629 core, it's very different. And I say that because 00:05:04.629 --> 00:05:08.990 one, you're going from a movie to now a TV series. 00:05:09.069 --> 00:05:12.449 You're not trying to like redo. The movie trying 00:05:12.449 --> 00:05:18.129 to like make them not canon. Also, like the the 00:05:18.129 --> 00:05:20.870 thing about like if you were just going to wipe 00:05:20.870 --> 00:05:26.589 away Ray's storyline, I think you might take 00:05:26.589 --> 00:05:30.529 away like a very powerful role model for little 00:05:30.529 --> 00:05:32.709 girls. I don't really know. I don't have children. 00:05:32.709 --> 00:05:36.389 I do. Out there. But I could imagine like little 00:05:36.389 --> 00:05:38.370 girls are looking up to Ray like, wow, she's 00:05:38.370 --> 00:05:41.220 so cool. And I don't want to take that away from 00:05:41.220 --> 00:05:44.939 anyone. Harry Potter, though. Harry Potter is. 00:05:45.699 --> 00:05:49.959 Different because they are, from my understanding, 00:05:50.300 --> 00:05:52.860 the TV series that they're making, they're trying 00:05:52.860 --> 00:05:57.560 to make it as accurate to the books as possible, 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:01.319 which the movies cut out a lot. They had to. 00:06:01.660 --> 00:06:05.600 Yeah, there is so much stuff going on. 100%. 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:08.379 So I feel like this is like two different arguments 00:06:08.379 --> 00:06:11.110 here. Because now you're going back and you're 00:06:11.110 --> 00:06:15.209 making something that's very. True to the books 00:06:15.209 --> 00:06:19.009 and with Star Wars, you don't really have. I 00:06:19.009 --> 00:06:22.329 don't know, you don't really have that. So I 00:06:22.329 --> 00:06:27.930 mean, they do have a ton of books, but. The not 00:06:27.930 --> 00:06:30.189 not they weren't originally a series of books 00:06:30.189 --> 00:06:32.569 that you're adapting off of. This was an original 00:06:32.569 --> 00:06:37.410 series. I'm going to say. If you were going to 00:06:37.410 --> 00:06:41.750 do something like reboot Star Wars, you need 00:06:41.750 --> 00:06:45.389 like a 25 year gap. Right. You would basically 00:06:45.389 --> 00:06:49.310 have to stop making Star Wars content for 25 00:06:49.310 --> 00:06:54.129 years and then start over. Right. I guess the 00:06:54.129 --> 00:06:57.089 only way it would work. Right. And it may not 00:06:57.089 --> 00:07:01.589 even work then. Right. I'm saying I don't think 00:07:01.589 --> 00:07:04.350 you can redo Star Wars without a significant 00:07:04.350 --> 00:07:07.740 gap between we have ended this we have started 00:07:07.740 --> 00:07:10.620 it over right again because you're going to confuse 00:07:10.620 --> 00:07:15.540 the crap out of the general audience right i 00:07:15.540 --> 00:07:18.639 also don't think that you can recapture the magic 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:22.600 of the original trilogy four five and six right 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:30.579 those things were about as good as you can get 00:07:30.579 --> 00:07:37.009 right I don't know how you and this is actually 00:07:37.009 --> 00:07:39.829 the the uphill battle that I think the Harry 00:07:39.829 --> 00:07:44.790 Potter series has. And I'll explain when they 00:07:44.790 --> 00:07:47.329 casted the Harry Potter movies, the original 00:07:47.329 --> 00:07:52.009 ones, right? They struck gold with Harry, Ron 00:07:52.009 --> 00:07:55.750 and Hermione. OK, Dan Radcliffe, Rupert Grint, 00:07:55.990 --> 00:08:01.910 Emma Watson, that crew had a chemistry. and a 00:08:01.910 --> 00:08:04.790 style and a way that they work together in those 00:08:04.790 --> 00:08:10.089 films. That is going to be exceedingly difficult 00:08:10.089 --> 00:08:14.089 for Warner Brothers to recreate in the television 00:08:14.089 --> 00:08:16.750 show. And I think if anything is going to kill 00:08:16.750 --> 00:08:20.029 that TV show, it's going to be that it's going 00:08:20.029 --> 00:08:22.509 to be they just can't. You caught lightning in 00:08:22.509 --> 00:08:26.189 a bottle with Dan Radcliffe, Emma Watson and 00:08:26.189 --> 00:08:28.149 Rupert Grint, and you just can't do it again. 00:08:28.569 --> 00:08:31.129 And I think the same concept can be said of Star 00:08:31.129 --> 00:08:33.990 Wars. You got lightning in a bottle with Mark 00:08:33.990 --> 00:08:37.090 Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford. And the 00:08:37.090 --> 00:08:38.649 way that they played those characters through 00:08:38.649 --> 00:08:42.649 those three movies, that I don't think you'll 00:08:42.649 --> 00:08:52.690 get again. I just don't know how you do it. What 00:08:52.690 --> 00:09:06.549 do you think? I think it's possible. But like 00:09:06.549 --> 00:09:09.110 you're going to have to do a lot of work, like 00:09:09.110 --> 00:09:12.070 a lot, a lot of work. And I think I remember 00:09:12.070 --> 00:09:16.710 kind of a documentary about Harry Potter. And 00:09:16.710 --> 00:09:19.529 I believe Daniel Radcliffe was the last person 00:09:19.529 --> 00:09:24.009 to get cast because they were going through everyone 00:09:24.009 --> 00:09:28.139 and they were like, no, no, no, no. I think, 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:30.559 and I could be really wrong here. Someone fact 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.960 check me, but like, I think they already had 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:37.419 Ron and Hermione and they had like, they introduced 00:09:37.419 --> 00:09:39.580 them to each other and they're like, okay, like 00:09:39.580 --> 00:09:43.279 they seem to kind of get along. Um, and they 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:46.340 were just like going through auditions for Daniel 00:09:46.340 --> 00:09:49.379 Radcliffe, looking for the perfect person. I 00:09:49.379 --> 00:09:53.919 think you can do it, but like you, so here's 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:59.509 the issue. Making. Movies making TV shows is 00:09:59.509 --> 00:10:02.070 a business. So you're going to have a project 00:10:02.070 --> 00:10:06.950 timeline. You're going to have a budget I Really 00:10:06.950 --> 00:10:08.870 think you need to take a step back from all of 00:10:08.870 --> 00:10:10.889 that and be like we are gonna spend as long as 00:10:10.889 --> 00:10:14.529 it takes to find these three children That's 00:10:14.529 --> 00:10:16.769 going to be that like special spark for this 00:10:16.769 --> 00:10:19.610 like new generation. I'm like a little worried 00:10:19.610 --> 00:10:24.370 that no one no studio No director is gonna have 00:10:24.370 --> 00:10:27.399 the patience to do that if that makes sense We're 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:31.320 going to find out. We will find out. Yeah. Now, 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:33.860 on the on the television side of it, and we're 00:10:33.860 --> 00:10:35.500 getting a little off topic of the original topic, 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.179 but we'll kind of go with this. HBO is known 00:10:39.179 --> 00:10:42.980 for its television. HBO does not screw up television. 00:10:43.659 --> 00:10:47.580 HBO knows how to make good quality television 00:10:47.580 --> 00:10:52.360 shows. So if there's any network, cable or otherwise, 00:10:52.419 --> 00:10:56.460 which service. that has the best shot at doing 00:10:56.460 --> 00:10:58.519 the Harry Potter casting and has the patience 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.759 and ability and institutional knowledge from 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.860 a production level to do this. It is absolutely 00:11:05.860 --> 00:11:10.019 Warner Brothers and HBO. Right. This is just 00:11:10.019 --> 00:11:13.960 what they do. Hello, Last of Us. Hello, Game 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:17.639 of Thrones. Hello, Sopranos. Hello. I mean, I 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:20.039 can go on and on and on and on and on and on. 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:23.779 Hello, newsroom. You know, I mean. They just 00:11:23.779 --> 00:11:27.700 this is what HBO does Separate actually what 00:11:27.700 --> 00:11:29.299 we'll hit that the quick hits here in a minute 00:11:29.299 --> 00:11:30.980 because they did something this week. That was 00:11:30.980 --> 00:11:40.940 really silly You know I Here's where I would 00:11:40.940 --> 00:11:44.360 go with Star Wars if I was gonna do it Right. 00:11:44.700 --> 00:11:48.299 I'm Kathleen Kennedy Right or I take over for 00:11:48.299 --> 00:11:50.539 Kathleen Kennedy tomorrow. Somebody did this 00:11:50.539 --> 00:11:53.940 where they took that obi -wan show right and 00:11:53.940 --> 00:11:55.940 they cut it into a movie it was about two and 00:11:55.940 --> 00:11:58.120 a half hours but they literally were like if 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.899 i take this and cut it into a film and it was 00:12:01.899 --> 00:12:04.899 good it was on youtube for a minute before it 00:12:04.899 --> 00:12:07.820 got dmca'd but everybody who saw it was like 00:12:07.820 --> 00:12:11.320 this this is really good i think there's a good 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:14.120 two and a half hour movie in that six hour tv 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:19.139 show i think in a lot of the stuff in the prequel 00:12:19.139 --> 00:12:21.830 trilogy I went took my daughter to see episode 00:12:21.830 --> 00:12:26.370 three the other week. It's not good. It's got 00:12:26.370 --> 00:12:32.029 good moments. But it's not good. We talked about 00:12:32.029 --> 00:12:35.509 this at the Mariners game. Yeah. And I brought 00:12:35.509 --> 00:12:38.389 up. So I also saw it in theaters a couple of 00:12:38.389 --> 00:12:40.830 weeks ago as well. And I was like, you know what? 00:12:41.629 --> 00:12:44.450 This is the first time where I actually remember 00:12:44.450 --> 00:12:48.289 saying this. Yeah. The acting is not that great. 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:52.440 I think like as a kid, I was so caught up in 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:55.259 like the lightsaber battles and everything like 00:12:55.259 --> 00:12:58.360 that. And then like I held on to that for so 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.639 long. But then like going back as an adult, you're 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.820 kind of, you kind of look at it and you're like, 00:13:04.820 --> 00:13:09.600 Ooh, there's, there's really great moments. But 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:12.539 in episode three, I was like, overall, like the 00:13:12.539 --> 00:13:16.230 acting's not that great. I think that in the 00:13:16.230 --> 00:13:18.950 prequel trilogy, there's like a Fellowship of 00:13:18.950 --> 00:13:24.710 the Rings extended edition for our version. Right. 00:13:25.429 --> 00:13:27.669 That combines elements of episodes one, two and 00:13:27.669 --> 00:13:33.250 three. That is awesome. Right. And maybe if I'm 00:13:33.250 --> 00:13:37.470 the head of Lucasfilm, I make a definitive cut 00:13:37.470 --> 00:13:39.450 of all these different projects to cut out all 00:13:39.450 --> 00:13:46.679 the crap. Right. Maybe that's the solution. I 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:53.440 don't know. I really don't. But no, I stand by 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:59.240 fully retconning and rebooting Star Wars. Is 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:04.580 not a good idea. It's just. It's just not. It 00:14:04.580 --> 00:14:08.299 doesn't make sense. Also, if you're comparing 00:14:08.299 --> 00:14:11.340 Star Wars to Harry Potter, the creator of Star 00:14:11.340 --> 00:14:16.340 Wars. He did have that scandal. It's a very small, 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:21.220 tiny scandal, but nothing as big as Harry Potter 00:14:21.220 --> 00:14:25.259 creator scandal. No. And the scandal I'm talking 00:14:25.259 --> 00:14:30.120 about for Star Wars is just Jar Jar Binks. Darth 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:33.700 Jar Jar. Jar Jar Jar. Yeah, we need to get in 00:14:33.700 --> 00:14:45.000 there and get us some Darth Jar Jar. Yeah. So, 00:14:45.059 --> 00:14:47.840 that's our thoughts on that. Tell us what you 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:51.940 think, right? Down in the comments below.