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coinciding with President Trump's current Middle

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East trip that he's been going on. Obviously,

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everybody's heard about the big, beautiful plane,

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the beautiful plane that they've given us that

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the Qatari government has given officially. The

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Defense Department is now going to own this plane

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for the next few years, and then it will go to

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the Trump presidential library, which is maintained

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by the National Archives after he leaves office.

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But yes, the Qatari government gifted the United

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States or Donald Trump with a plane worth $400

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million that they're going to use as Air Force

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One for the next few years. Okay? A lot of this

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stuff's been going on. None of this is surprising

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or in any way kind of new, right? But as I was

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going through all the news articles and all the

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stuff that's been going on the last couple of

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weeks Not just with this Qatari plane, but kind

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of all the stuff that's been going on around

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the Middle East a a Surprising and kind of disturbing

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thought came into my mind Okay And it's it's

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this okay and and anybody who has watched this

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show for any period of time knows that Jay and

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I are not fans of the Trump administration writ

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large okay we're not okay we have been exceedingly

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critical of the Trump administration on this

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channel but I do feel the need to be honest And

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as I was looking at a lot of stories that have

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not been reported heavily, unless you know where

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you're looking. Right. A thought popped into

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my head. And it disturbs me. And that is. Orange

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man might be the guy to accomplish something

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we've been trying to get to for 70 years. He

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actually may be able to broker a Middle East

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piece. And that disturbs me a little bit, both

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by the means and the fact that this is how this

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is going to go down. And that is this, okay?

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I do not believe that Donald Trump holds any

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deep religious or faith -based anything. This

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guy is greedy. He loves money. And the only people

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he respects more than himself is people that

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have more money than him. Right of which there's

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no short list right Elon Jeff Bezos da da da

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da but if you pay tribute to the orange man,

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he will listen to you and he will do what you

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say because you have more money than him and

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he wants more of your money, right and The other

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thing that a lot of these Countries have Namely

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Saudi Arabia the United Arab Emirates in Qatar

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is they've got a lot of money and They're not

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afraid to spend it Hence the 400 million dollar

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plane hence Riyadh very quietly doing stuff hence

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Trump Tower Abu Dhabi, right and Again one of

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those little stories that didn't get didn't get

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a lot of play Qatar has been at the forefront

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of the negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians

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and things like that And Qatar is on the side

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of the Palestinians. And then very quietly, a

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couple weeks ago, the Trump administration agreed

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to a ceasefire with the Houthis. And they stopped

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bombing the Houthis. They just stopped. They

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just stopped bombing the Houthis. And then the

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Houthis shot a missile at Ben Gurion Airport

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in Israel. And then the Trump administration

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went, eh, okay. And they didn't do anything.

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And now Trump's over there. And he said something

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that I feel was one of the most honest motherfucking

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things he's ever said. He said, in Riyadh. Transcending

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the age of conflicts of tired divisions of the

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past and forging a future where the Middle East

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is defined by commerce, not chaos. And I said

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that right there. that that that that is his

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honest opinion right look at all this nice place

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let let's let's make some money over here people

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and uh yesterday the republican party writ large

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200 republicans sent him a letter to the president

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And 200 Republicans in Congress are not very

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happy with the president right now because Steve

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Wittkopf, his chief Middle East advisor, is about

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to negotiate a new deal with Iran where we will

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drop the sanctions against Iran in exchange for

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a new deal on their new program. And the the

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Republican Party is not happy with this because

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they want war with Iran. And he also spent time

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in that Trump spent time in that fight. his speech

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in Riyadh criticizing the neocons who keep dragging

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us into wars. And as I sat and looked at all

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these little tiny things, right, the Iranians

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coming out publicly and saying, yeah, we're close

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to a deal. The Houthis firing at Israel and the

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Trump administration going, eh, and signing a

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ceasefire with the Houthis. Him going to Riyadh

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and by the way, he's doing a full Middle East

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tour and isn't going to Israel Which by the way

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in the Israeli press is being played as a huge

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snub against Netanyahu Trump's spending all this

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time in the Middle East and he's not going to

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Israel and he's dealing with the Qataris and

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the Iranians who are allied with Hamas and Hezbollah

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And he's He's he's doing something here So the

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question that I posed to the audience and the

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question that I posed to Jay is let's let's take

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all this a little bit at face value. If the cost

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of peace in that region is that orange man gets

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to fucking walk out of office and him and his

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family walk out richer than they've ever been

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in their entire lives. Because of his graft and

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his greed But if the end result of his graft

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and greed because these people have the money

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to bribe him To do things that no other president

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would do right? Namely just be like yeah sure

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why not because he doesn't have that faith base

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that thing that that that feeling about Israel

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Would it be worth it Is it Worth it. If he could

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do it. If he signs a peace deal with the Iranians,

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the Qataris, Saudi, UAE, and Qatar, right? Normalization

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with movement toward a Palestinian state because

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that's what Qatar is going to want. That's what

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the UAE is going to want. That's what Saudi is

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going to want. Is it worth it? Going to say.

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No. Why do you say no? Oh, gosh. So for one.

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This. I am. No longer Christian, but. This gives

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me very like Antichrist vibes. Yeah, like the

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golden child that's gonna bring no, huh? I'm

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not saying that he is not saying that I believe

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that I am but I Don't like this because one this

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is to me. This is kind of like a deal with the

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devil I'm gonna give you peace in the Middle

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East and at the same time I'm going to like gut

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American values here at home. Like I'm going

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to cause so much chaos and havoc for the U .S.

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citizens. But we're going to have peace in the

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Middle East. I don't like that. So here's the

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I think he's going to do that anyway. Peace in

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the Middle East or not. That's our internal.

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That's domestic politics. And that's going to

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get handled domestically. We talk about that

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a second because they were at the Supreme Court

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today arguing about who's got the power there.

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Think he's gonna do that either way right Really

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he's gonna do that domestic bull crap either

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way and I don't agree with that. We're never

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gonna agree with that but I'm asking fuck it

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if if bribing this motherfucker with 20 billion

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dollars worth of crap Brings us Normalization

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and a peace accord in that region. Is it worth

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letting him take the money? No, I. Because I

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think nothing good can come from greed and. To

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me. OK, let's put this in simple terms of the

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night. Superman, Superman. I'm. I think we have

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like a Lex Luthor. I mean, he's not as cool as

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Lex Luthor, but he probably wishes he was. I

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have seen some animated movies and some comics

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where like Lex Luthor. He's like the bad guy,

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but he's not really the bad guy. Like, he's actually

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working with, like, the Justice League to help,

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like, bring peace because, like, they have a

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common enemy and they need a band to get blah,

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blah, blah, blah, blah. I kind of feel like that's

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what this is. I don't know. You. When your intentions

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are agreed, there's a time, I believe, when.

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You're just gonna become greedier and greeter

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a greedier and more greedy or I don't know if

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that made sense it does like a word salad, but

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um, I Don't think anything can come good from

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this. I think it would be like good for a few

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years and then It's gonna fall apart I I don't

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know. I think we need our Superman to come down

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now take a side and just bring peace which I

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also kind of. Oddly, didn't really agree with

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in the comics, but anyways. I don't think anything

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good can come from this, like not long term,

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short term. Sure. Yeah. Five years, 10 years,

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I don't know. 50, 60 years, completely not. 50,

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60 is hard for me to to kind of put into a context,

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right? And obviously, I've spent a lot of my

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life both in this region and studying this region

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and the conflicts that happen there. Maybe there's

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a part of it that's like, at least this motherfucker

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will sit down with her boss, right? Like, I generally

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want to agree with you that nothing good comes

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from greed. I guess I'm so tired. Maybe this

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also comes from a perspective of I've had to

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sit in that area and see those conflicts firsthand

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that I won't almost take anything over that.

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Like if we get a good 10 or 15 years where that

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whole region wasn't a raging dumpster fire I

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would feel better Because because to be clear

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everything that's happening there is our fault

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Right. It was the US and Britain and France and

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all of us after World War two. We just we We

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screwed that up royally. It's our fault that

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it's that screwed up. I don't know if it's a

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situation where we're like, we need to be out

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of this completely and just say, screw it. Like,

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we're just not going to interfere or get involved

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in any way, shape or form, or whether it's our

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responsibility to try and fix what we screwed

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up so bad. You know what I mean Does that make

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sense am I making sense at all It makes sense,

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yes And like okay, so take a step back apply

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the scientific method I'm heavily biased against

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Trump. Like, honestly, I'm going to be skeptical

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of every single thing this guy does. I'm skeptical.

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Believe me, I'm skeptical. I. Yeah, but that's

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that's again where. Where I come into this place

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of. I'm skeptical, right? But. Again, the one

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thing I believe in is his greed. The one thing

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I'm not skeptical about is his greed. And if

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his greed led the United States to normalized

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relations with Iran, where we had an embassy

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in Tehran again, right? Would I take that? That's

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my that's that's the part where I struggle. Right

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Where I go I might take it I Might take it Yeah,

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I know he wants to go in there and and and him

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and his rich buddies want to to to to to take

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as much cash as they can get But if we had an

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embassy in Tehran again and normalized relationships

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with those countries would I take it and And

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that's the question that I'm having a hard time

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answering I think I think it's right to be skeptical,

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but that's kind of the foundation of the question.

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I think. It's difficult. It is. It's a very complex

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problem because. No matter how I look at it,

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right I simply do not understand the culture

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over there and I probably never will because

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I could read about it you have to go you have

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to Feel it and that's again where having been

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there Right and And having been there and here's

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the thing. I met so many wonderful people. Right.

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In that portion of the world, people who I absolutely

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adored. And it wasn't until I got older and I

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remember I remember talking about this when I

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went through all my VA stuff. Right. And I remember

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talking to the. In this case, the shrink was

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evaluating me for my post -traumatic stress disorder.

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And she was like, you know, how is this impacted?

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I was like, here's the thing. At 21, 22, I didn't

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have the words to understand what I was feeling,

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right? It wasn't until I got into my 30s that

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I really understood what, how that impacted me.

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And really it just, it made me sad, you know,

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and I've taught you just about that. Like I would

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love to go back to Baghdad. I would love to go

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back to Iraq with without a gun in my hand because

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I would love to see that place. Because there

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are really some beautiful places there. There

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are some really cool things in that country.

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And what we did and what what, you know, various

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regimes and everything that's happened there,

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I'm just like. It just makes me sad. I'm just

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like, can we just not for a little while? Can

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this place just go back to being? Because it's

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nice it it's generally kind of a nice place,

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you know and the people that are wonderful And

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I just it I'm just like how do we and I guess

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that's why I asked the question is I'm like man

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if we could just get 15 20 years of just Let's

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calm it down You know Would it be worth it It's

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hard. I. Yeah, I. I don't know. I. I don't think

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I would take it. I. I want peace. I do. I guess

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we've tried so many other solutions. What now?

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Like, take a different approach. Try to speak.

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Their language like what motivates them what

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motivates Trump I like I totally get it It does

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make sense the It's like the How can you trust

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or I don't Yeah, and I mean that's the issue

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is like you can't you can't trust like I don't

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know That's my only problem. Now, I want to I

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want to push back against something in the chat

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right now. Oh, gosh. Nothing is where Trump can.

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Here's the thing. If that motherfucker got bonked

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on the head tomorrow. And used his political

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instincts and his willpower to bring about universal

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health care in America, I'm sorry, I'm going

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to give him credit. I'm not going to cut off

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our nose to spider face. Right. Because the problem

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that we've had on the on the left as somebody

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on the left is that we have done a lot of cutting

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off our nose to spider face, right? We do this

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a lot on the left where it's like Biden did as

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much as he could to forgive students. Could he

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do everything he wanted to do? Right? No, he

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couldn't. But can we give him credit for the

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good things that he did? And there's a lot of

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people on our side who are like, no, it doesn't

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matter. He still didn't do it. And this is why

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we lose is because we won't give credit where

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credit is due. Right. Do I think that he's going

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to necessarily accomplish this? No, I don't.

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I think he's fighting an uphill battle. Right.

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But I think it's an interesting thing. And again,

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I'm seeing some weird things again. That. Under

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any other administration. I'm like I'd be like

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what the hell You know, and here it's just as

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simple as oh, no, he just wants money Didn't

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care about any of that stuff, right? You know,

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and so that's that's where I go I'm gonna push

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Back Right on we can't give him credit for again.

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Look if he does something Oh, no, and I don't

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believe again in chat I don't believe he deserves

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to be forgiven and I think when the historians

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write the history book of Donald Trump no matter

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what he does Right. Let's say he accomplishes

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Middle East peace. It will always be tinged with

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the other crap that he did Right. He will never

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be on Mount Rushmore Okay But You know again

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got it got to give credit where it's due he's

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not do it yet, but I thought it was an interesting

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question So Yeah, all right, I that's enough

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of that one Let us know what you think down in

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the comments below
