WEBVTT 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:04.559 Okay, this is the spoiler section for Thunderbolts. 00:00:04.740 --> 00:00:06.419 Hopefully you watched our review. If you haven't 00:00:06.419 --> 00:00:09.279 watched it, if you want our spoiler free review, 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:11.740 go back to the videos tab, look at our spoiler 00:00:11.740 --> 00:00:14.419 free review. It'll be logged as no spoilers. 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:18.100 This one you can see right here between Jay and 00:00:18.100 --> 00:00:20.719 I, there's a big thing. There's a big. Exclamation 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:23.379 point, and it says spoiler alert. So this is 00:00:23.379 --> 00:00:25.920 our spoiler discussion. So this is for people 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:27.800 that don't care about spoilers or anyone who's 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:31.300 already seen the movie that wants to hear more 00:00:31.300 --> 00:00:35.240 about it in a spoiler -tastic fashion for Thunderbolts. 00:00:35.380 --> 00:00:38.000 Again, Jay and I saw a kind of day zero advanced 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:41.219 fan screening today for Thunderbolts. We both 00:00:41.219 --> 00:00:45.840 enjoyed the movie. Let's start with the obvious 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:50.820 thing, the asterisk, right? We put the asterisk 00:00:50.820 --> 00:00:57.219 in the title. Right. So first off. Were you surprised 00:00:57.219 --> 00:01:01.320 by the explanation of the asterisk? I was. I'm 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:03.560 not going to I'm not going to lie. I was like, 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:07.239 what's up with the Asterix? Is it like because 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:09.799 the name was already taken like another movie 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:14.219 was called the Thunderbolts? Is it like I did 00:01:14.219 --> 00:01:16.439 not understand the meaning behind this? I did 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:20.640 not. And then they explain it. At the very end 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:23.140 and they're the New Avengers literally the New 00:01:23.140 --> 00:01:27.680 Avengers New Avengers with a Z So let's let's 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:30.120 talk about New Avengers really quick. So New 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:33.400 Avengers is actually a comic book, right? The 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.359 first like crew of which is like spider -man 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:40.439 Wolverine Spider -woman and Luke Cage so not 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:42.659 the people who see this movie, but New Avengers 00:01:42.659 --> 00:01:45.540 is a thing and that's the asterisk the whole 00:01:45.540 --> 00:01:49.519 time by the way, the joke is In the comics, the 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:51.079 Thunderbolts are formed by Thunderbolt Ross, 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:53.920 who obviously is Red Hulk and is now in prison 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.819 after the events of Brave New World. But in this 00:01:57.819 --> 00:02:05.120 case, it's Yelena's childhood soccer team. That's 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:07.640 where the name came from. He's like, we are the 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:11.020 Thunderbolt. And they're like sponsored by shades. 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:12.840 And then they get to argue about who sponsored 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:17.000 her soccer team as a child. Which was a little 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:22.599 running gag they had um So so there's the asterisk 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:25.319 they at the end of the movie they are announced 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:32.939 as the new avengers So obviously Marvel trying 00:02:32.939 --> 00:02:36.060 to pull one over on all of us by calling it thunderbolts 00:02:36.060 --> 00:02:41.340 asterisk When it's there's a new avengers Yeah, 00:02:41.340 --> 00:02:43.319 you're shaking your head like you don't like 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:47.300 this or or what? I did. I actually really liked 00:02:47.300 --> 00:02:51.979 it because like it was surprising and you know, 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:58.699 I I like being surprised. You know, I on unlike 00:02:58.699 --> 00:03:02.840 you, I didn't really know what to expect from 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:05.939 from the Thunderbolt. So I was like everything 00:03:05.939 --> 00:03:09.740 was a surprise to me. I did not figure out the 00:03:09.740 --> 00:03:14.990 plot of the movie. And honestly, like the person 00:03:14.990 --> 00:03:19.389 I thought was going to die, I thought. Oh, yeah. 00:03:19.449 --> 00:03:21.110 Who did you think was going to die? We mentioned 00:03:21.110 --> 00:03:23.689 this in the non -spoiler review. David Harbor. 00:03:24.069 --> 00:03:26.650 You thought Red Guardian was going to die? Yes, 00:03:26.650 --> 00:03:30.689 because because he was the guy that was like 00:03:30.689 --> 00:03:32.689 you said, he was trying to bring everyone together. 00:03:32.969 --> 00:03:36.150 He was the heart of the team. And I thought we 00:03:36.150 --> 00:03:39.069 were going to go with like Agent Colson here. 00:03:39.270 --> 00:03:43.150 We're like, oh, OK. Oh, like they can't get along. 00:03:43.289 --> 00:03:46.389 They're fighting. Something happened. He dies. 00:03:46.389 --> 00:03:49.789 And then they band together. And that didn't 00:03:49.789 --> 00:03:53.830 happen. No, I'm happy about. Yeah. The only death 00:03:53.830 --> 00:03:56.270 we get, we get we get Taskmaster really early 00:03:56.270 --> 00:03:59.729 in the film. Taskmaster shows up and got done. 00:04:00.330 --> 00:04:06.349 Boom. Over right in the head. Like, OK. Right. 00:04:06.830 --> 00:04:09.389 Because they get Valentina sends them all to 00:04:09.389 --> 00:04:12.129 kill each other. Right. and then incinerate the 00:04:12.129 --> 00:04:14.129 evidence. Like, all right, you all kill each 00:04:14.129 --> 00:04:15.490 other and then whoever's left, I'll just burn 00:04:15.490 --> 00:04:19.069 them alive. It'll be fine. But it doesn't work 00:04:19.069 --> 00:04:25.990 out that way because of Bob. Right. Bob is Sentry. 00:04:26.310 --> 00:04:28.629 Right. And in the comics, Sentry and Void are 00:04:28.629 --> 00:04:31.050 two halves of the same coin. Sentry is Superman. 00:04:31.550 --> 00:04:34.470 Right. In the comic books. And here he is very 00:04:34.470 --> 00:04:39.319 much Superman. That was that was definitely the 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:41.579 vibe you got when he was fighting the Thunderbolts 00:04:41.579 --> 00:04:45.920 in that moment. Yeah. Yeah, 100 percent like 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:50.079 they the little like the research that they discover 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:54.620 on him. They said something like, oh, like he 00:04:54.620 --> 00:04:56.620 has the power of ten thousand sons or something 00:04:56.620 --> 00:04:59.160 like immediately. I was just like, oh, shit, 00:04:59.259 --> 00:05:01.920 is this like Superman? Yeah, he's he's Superman, 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:03.699 except he's got the other side of him, which 00:05:03.699 --> 00:05:08.139 is the void, which is psychotic and creates little 00:05:08.139 --> 00:05:11.139 shadow things on the ground and like mercs people 00:05:11.139 --> 00:05:16.120 that was a cool visual when he starts shadowing 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:19.579 people on the ground I was like damn I I'm not 00:05:19.579 --> 00:05:24.019 gonna lie like that scene um when like they're 00:05:24.019 --> 00:05:27.199 all like helping each other save like the civilians 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:30.680 and then um there's the little girl that just 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:32.980 gets yeah David Harbour saves the little girl 00:05:33.370 --> 00:05:37.750 Oh, my God. I was like, oh, I was like, she's 00:05:37.750 --> 00:05:41.470 dead. Oh, my God. And they started that one. 00:05:41.569 --> 00:05:43.569 That was kind of the first one out the gate beyond 00:05:43.569 --> 00:05:46.850 the soldier guys. You were like, oh, OK, like. 00:05:48.149 --> 00:05:51.209 Yeah, we're just merkin fools. Right out the 00:05:51.209 --> 00:05:55.129 gate. OK, void. Try to think what else we want 00:05:55.129 --> 00:05:56.370 to talk about cutting here in our spoiler review. 00:05:56.689 --> 00:05:59.509 It's it's again, I'm going to go watch it again 00:05:59.509 --> 00:06:00.850 this weekend. I'll probably take my daughter 00:06:00.850 --> 00:06:04.160 to it. The pacing, it felt like it kind of, it 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:05.879 kind of got a slow start. I was like, what are 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:08.759 you doing? Where are we going? I like that she 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:10.839 stole the guinea pig. Like she goes in to blow 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.639 the lab up at the beginning and she finds this 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:15.220 guinea pig and she's talking to the guard that 00:06:15.220 --> 00:06:17.420 she's tied up. And then she fights the scientist 00:06:17.420 --> 00:06:19.939 and like telegraphs the fight. She talks, she 00:06:19.939 --> 00:06:22.480 narrates what's going to happen until he accidentally 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:26.459 shoots himself in the head. Yeah, that was like, 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:28.759 oh, that one's supposed to happen. And she's 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:32.600 like, I needed that face. Yep. But before she 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:35.160 blows up the lab, she steals the guinea pig and 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:36.939 is just walking down the road with the guinea 00:06:36.939 --> 00:06:40.579 pig. I was like, oh. And then we see the guinea 00:06:40.579 --> 00:06:44.480 pig in credits with the I don't know, the AI 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:46.939 art or whatever. The guinea pig is on the front 00:06:46.939 --> 00:06:49.899 of the George Washington vote. Yes, I like the 00:06:49.899 --> 00:06:54.389 guinea pig. Yeah, I mean ultimately I said I 00:06:54.389 --> 00:06:55.769 clocked at the beginning I was like, okay You 00:06:55.769 --> 00:06:57.649 learn is going through all this stuff and then 00:06:57.649 --> 00:07:00.509 what the the reason I clocked it is the second 00:07:00.509 --> 00:07:04.709 he started touching people Right. He does it 00:07:04.709 --> 00:07:06.949 to you Elena first. He touches you later. She 00:07:06.949 --> 00:07:10.730 goes back into like Some weird alt universe where 00:07:10.730 --> 00:07:13.250 she's seeing her a horrible thing from her past 00:07:13.250 --> 00:07:17.610 then he does it to walk her right which I mentioned 00:07:17.610 --> 00:07:20.009 this as we were waiting for the end credits. 00:07:20.449 --> 00:07:23.189 Please, guys, start using his name. He's U .S. 00:07:23.490 --> 00:07:26.790 agent. Okay. He's U .S. agent. Okay. Let's stop. 00:07:27.029 --> 00:07:29.129 Yes, it was funny. We had the jokes about dime 00:07:29.129 --> 00:07:31.129 store and junior university, Captain America. 00:07:32.529 --> 00:07:35.529 Right. He's U .S. agent. That's his stupid name. 00:07:35.930 --> 00:07:39.629 Right. In the comic books. Okay. He's U .S. agent. 00:07:40.550 --> 00:07:46.300 Anyway. Yeah. when he when he starts touching 00:07:46.300 --> 00:07:48.360 them and they go into their little void space 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:50.500 and like relive that horrible thing and that 00:07:50.500 --> 00:07:53.379 he does the same thing to walker right while 00:07:53.379 --> 00:07:57.540 they're still in the vault i was like oh so what's 00:07:57.540 --> 00:07:59.920 going to happen is they're going to go into the 00:07:59.920 --> 00:08:02.399 void space at the end and they're going to find 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:04.680 good bob and they're going to talk and everything 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:07.879 they're going to work out their demons and everybody's 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:11.709 going to work it out And it was it was when we 00:08:11.709 --> 00:08:14.069 got the walker one the Elena one I wasn't sure 00:08:14.069 --> 00:08:16.009 what once they needed to walker. I was like, 00:08:16.250 --> 00:08:20.449 oh, okay This is where rap and so the whole movie. 00:08:20.449 --> 00:08:23.790 I was like Okay, we're gonna get to the point 00:08:23.790 --> 00:08:30.009 where they're all going into the void Which was 00:08:30.009 --> 00:08:32.629 the only downside to me for the movie I was like 00:08:32.629 --> 00:08:38.590 I know what's happening That that's so that is 00:08:38.590 --> 00:08:44.480 like the the I don't know the bad dark side of 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:49.940 reading all the comics. And it's hard. It's hard 00:08:49.940 --> 00:08:56.779 to read all the comics. But yeah, I I'm not gonna 00:08:56.779 --> 00:08:59.039 lie. Like there's there's moments when like new 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:01.240 movies like this come out. I'm like, oh, Thunderbolts. 00:09:01.340 --> 00:09:04.379 Like should I look at like a like a paperback 00:09:04.379 --> 00:09:06.259 and like try to like read up on the Thunderbolts? 00:09:06.299 --> 00:09:09.480 And I'm like, stop. No, don't do it. Don't do 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:12.080 it. Just be surprised. So I like that. And I 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:13.919 will say that. That's what I'm happy. I managed 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.120 to because apparently the asterisk thing leaked 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:19.059 a couple of days ago and I know. Yeah, I missed 00:09:19.059 --> 00:09:20.860 it. I was like, no, and I'm not going to look 00:09:20.860 --> 00:09:23.220 because I want to be surprised because Kevin 00:09:23.220 --> 00:09:25.980 Feige had said that the asterisk was on the Thunderbolts 00:09:25.980 --> 00:09:29.100 title for a reason. And I was like, that's interesting. 00:09:30.419 --> 00:09:32.879 And Feige is very deliberate. So I was like, 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:35.399 it's going to be what's going to be. And then 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:39.960 we get. Our reasoning they're the new Avengers 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:42.600 Our other post credit we had at the end of the 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.480 Marvels was we get we get miss Marvel and Kate 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.080 Bishop So maybe we're gonna have new Avengers 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:50.139 and young Avengers all coming together for Avengers 00:09:50.139 --> 00:09:55.519 doomsday Was there anything before we get to 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:57.340 the post credit scenes anything else like within 00:09:57.340 --> 00:10:00.059 the film? Spoilery wise that you want to chat 00:10:00.059 --> 00:10:03.940 about I mean, let's let's talk about the struggle 00:10:03.940 --> 00:10:08.129 with depression theme. I liked that That was, 00:10:08.629 --> 00:10:13.669 um, it was really cool because they did it in 00:10:13.669 --> 00:10:17.549 a manner to me that wasn't like cheesy and it 00:10:17.549 --> 00:10:21.230 wasn't like, Oh, this is lame. Like it was like 00:10:21.230 --> 00:10:25.830 these guys have a dark past and you can't shove 00:10:25.830 --> 00:10:29.409 that down. It's going to come back. It's going 00:10:29.409 --> 00:10:33.149 to boil over. Um, and if it does and you can't 00:10:33.149 --> 00:10:36.080 control it, you're going to fucking start voiding 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:39.960 people out, you know, like, and it's it was. 00:10:40.139 --> 00:10:42.860 And there's some there's some like dark scenes 00:10:42.860 --> 00:10:48.779 of like child murder. Yeah, childhood murder 00:10:48.779 --> 00:10:53.779 abuse. It's yeah. His parents like abuse. Well, 00:10:53.940 --> 00:10:55.659 and like when they're whipping the girls in the 00:10:55.659 --> 00:10:58.159 red room after they fail, the gun putting together 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:02.049 a competition like. Yeah. They do not shy away 00:11:02.049 --> 00:11:05.789 from dark themes in this movie. And I liked it. 00:11:05.850 --> 00:11:08.690 I like that. Yeah. I thought it was a good move. 00:11:08.850 --> 00:11:11.509 Yeah, I thought it was good writing. All credit 00:11:11.509 --> 00:11:17.190 to Florence Pugh, man. She played it well. She 00:11:17.190 --> 00:11:20.370 really did like you bought it the whole time. 00:11:20.669 --> 00:11:24.669 And I think that same dialogue, that same story 00:11:24.669 --> 00:11:27.360 with a lesser actress. I mean, and there's a 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:29.340 reason she's in Chris Nolan's films. There's 00:11:29.340 --> 00:11:32.039 a reason she's done the movies that she's done 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:35.059 outside of the MCU. She's a very talented actress. 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.899 Yeah. And I think that she I think a lesser actress 00:11:39.899 --> 00:11:42.460 could have made that cheesy and not land the 00:11:42.460 --> 00:11:47.240 same way. Yeah, I agree. Again, and I'm going 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:49.600 to go back to David Harbour again, from the very 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:51.139 beginning of the movie, when she comes to see 00:11:51.139 --> 00:11:54.100 him and he's brushing his teeth with dish soap. 00:11:54.500 --> 00:11:57.440 Right. the whole time he's trying to be like 00:11:57.440 --> 00:12:04.960 he's he is unrelenting in his love for her and 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.860 his belief in her the whole movie and it's not 00:12:08.860 --> 00:12:12.919 a put it's not a put on job right like you do 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:15.419 you do not ever get the sense that he is anything 00:12:15.419 --> 00:12:18.919 but sincere in he's saying Yelena I know you 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:23.559 did this stuff it wasn't your fault you were 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:32.850 a child And I love you, and I'm here to support 00:12:32.850 --> 00:12:37.409 you. The whole time, like he, and I think again, 00:12:37.450 --> 00:12:40.330 I think David Harbour sells it well. He plays 00:12:40.330 --> 00:12:42.990 it well. And even when she's rejecting him, he's 00:12:42.990 --> 00:12:46.549 just like, you know what, it's fine. I'm gonna 00:12:46.549 --> 00:12:49.429 come back with the same message again. That I 00:12:49.429 --> 00:12:52.429 love you, you're a good person, you can be a 00:12:52.429 --> 00:12:57.960 hero. And I believe in you like the whole time. 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:02.480 And I think and I think that ties back to the 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:05.360 mental health talk of, you know, people with 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.679 like depression, they need to hear these things. 00:13:07.779 --> 00:13:10.899 They need to hear like, hey, like that's that's 00:13:10.899 --> 00:13:14.200 not who you are. Like you're a good person. And 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:17.120 there was actually one subtle thing that I liked 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:23.279 really, really much. So with Bob. Yeah. When 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:27.720 we go into Bob's past, there is I can't remember 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:32.360 the exact phrase. Oh, yeah. So you want to be 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:35.279 a hero or like something like that or like you'll 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.039 ever be a hero or something. His dad says it 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:40.620 to him. Yeah. When he's trying to protect his 00:13:40.620 --> 00:13:45.899 mom. Yeah. And the void tells Bob. And that is 00:13:45.899 --> 00:13:49.379 like a huge that's self -talk. That's a negative 00:13:49.379 --> 00:13:51.840 self -talk. So like. When you're, when you grow 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.440 up and your parents say horrible shit to you, 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:57.539 then when you get older, you don't realize it. 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:01.700 You think it's your like own inner dialogue talking 00:14:01.700 --> 00:14:04.799 to you, but it's actually the voice of your abuser, 00:14:04.860 --> 00:14:08.100 your, your dad or whatever. Um, and I was like, 00:14:08.100 --> 00:14:11.080 Oh shit. I was like, damn, this is like some 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:14.379 deep, like therapy shit. I didn't like a Marvel 00:14:14.379 --> 00:14:18.639 movie. I was like, Oh God, very much. Yeah. Yeah. 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:22.379 And it's and here's the thing. It's it's it's 00:14:22.379 --> 00:14:24.740 Red Guardian showing that unconditional love 00:14:24.740 --> 00:14:27.960 for Yelena and him saying you can be more. And 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:31.220 that's what she goes into the void to tell Bob 00:14:31.220 --> 00:14:35.539 you can be more. Right. I'm here. Like the way 00:14:35.539 --> 00:14:37.679 that Red Guardian's like, I'm here for you. I 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:41.940 will do what you need to make you better. She 00:14:41.940 --> 00:14:47.519 pays that forward to Bob. to save it and then 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:49.360 eventually it's everybody and then and then we 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:51.799 get the group hug. That was the only thing that 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:53.700 surprised me was that it was like at the end 00:14:53.700 --> 00:14:57.039 it was like all of us are gonna we're here for 00:14:57.039 --> 00:15:00.659 you Bob right and I thought that was I thought 00:15:00.659 --> 00:15:02.220 that that paying for mention that thing where 00:15:02.220 --> 00:15:05.700 she was like you know you're better and she figures 00:15:05.700 --> 00:15:07.519 out that was the part that surprised me. I knew 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:08.980 she was going to go to the void. I knew it was 00:15:08.980 --> 00:15:11.860 going to be that what it got me was he's beating 00:15:11.860 --> 00:15:14.440 the crap out of the void in there inside the 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:17.110 fake world. right? The void world and he's beating 00:15:17.110 --> 00:15:19.950 the **** out of the void. No, you're not. I'm 00:15:19.950 --> 00:15:23.370 not going to let you down talk me anymore. Bad 00:15:23.370 --> 00:15:26.730 voice self talk and she it clicks. She's like, 00:15:26.730 --> 00:15:30.470 no, that's what he wants. He wants you to let 00:15:30.470 --> 00:15:32.970 in that violence. He wants you to let in that 00:15:32.970 --> 00:15:36.529 anger. Yeah. At the self talk and that to me 00:15:36.529 --> 00:15:41.169 is that that mirror to self harm. Yeah. Yeah. 00:15:41.169 --> 00:15:44.440 Right? which is what he's doing. He's he's cutting 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:51.139 or impeding self -harm in that moment. And she 00:15:51.139 --> 00:15:54.480 figures it out. She's like, oh, no, this is what 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:57.659 the void wants. Stop it. Don't finish beating 00:15:57.659 --> 00:16:00.600 it up. You can't shut it down. It's a part of 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:07.759 you. So deep that. Yeah. You know what? I'm liking 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:09.779 the movie more. Again, remember I said when we 00:16:09.779 --> 00:16:11.580 left, I was like, I gotta percolate on it. I 00:16:11.580 --> 00:16:14.679 gotta like, the more we discuss it, I'm like, 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:20.840 you know what? Yeah. Yeah. And if you haven't 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:22.379 seen the movie yet, which why are you watching 00:16:22.379 --> 00:16:26.039 this video? But like, um, it's dark and it has 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:30.740 these themes, but then it, they have funny, like 00:16:30.740 --> 00:16:33.700 lightness. I was like busting out laughing like 00:16:33.700 --> 00:16:36.899 that scene. with the limo where he comes rolling 00:16:36.899 --> 00:16:40.320 up in the limo and he's like, he lied up. She's 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:43.320 so embarrassed. She's right. She's like, no, 00:16:43.419 --> 00:16:45.299 don't don't. She's the embarrassed kid whose 00:16:45.299 --> 00:16:47.299 parents are picking her up from school. She's 00:16:47.299 --> 00:16:56.000 like, no, why are you here? Yeah. I like I again. 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:58.299 And yeah, there's those lighthearted moments. 00:16:58.659 --> 00:17:00.860 Yeah. Right. He's like, we could be on the with 00:17:00.860 --> 00:17:07.369 his box. Right. Oh I love that and then the post 00:17:07.369 --> 00:17:10.450 credit he's standing in the thing be like at 00:17:10.450 --> 00:17:13.970 me on the Wheaties box be on the with his box 00:17:13.970 --> 00:17:19.130 Wheaties is good for children Good cereal. I 00:17:19.130 --> 00:17:21.609 like that post credit. So that's the silly post 00:17:21.609 --> 00:17:25.670 credit is The Wheaties box he he like he's trying 00:17:25.670 --> 00:17:28.049 to pick up on some woman by showing that he's 00:17:28.049 --> 00:17:33.299 on the Wheaties box as the new Avenger guy Now 00:17:33.299 --> 00:17:35.059 the second post credit scene, let's shout about 00:17:35.059 --> 00:17:38.759 that There's a couple things they drop one. There's 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:45.240 a 14 month time gap Yep, right So my current 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:50.160 running theory is They're giving time for daredevil 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:56.319 born again season 2 to happen Right because that's 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:00.619 coming too right and I think they're also giving 00:18:00.619 --> 00:18:07.099 time for spider -man to happen Okay. So, those 00:18:07.099 --> 00:18:08.680 are the two that I'm like, Feige is like, we 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:11.440 need a, we need a time jump here, right? So, 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:14.799 we got a 14 months later. They're the new Avengers 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:17.240 but they're apparently in an argument with Sam 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:19.799 about who's the actual Avengers and maybe Sam's 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:23.460 put together another team. Yeah. And he trademarked 00:18:23.460 --> 00:18:26.000 it like a like a dick. And then, he's like, we'll 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.039 be the Avengers Z, right? And this is where you 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:31.980 think it's a silly thing. Now, this is again, 00:18:32.180 --> 00:18:34.690 two things. Again, this is where I feel like 00:18:34.690 --> 00:18:37.049 it's a step backwards at the end of Falcon and 00:18:37.049 --> 00:18:40.609 Winter Soldier and again in brave new world Sam 00:18:40.609 --> 00:18:46.549 and Bucky ain't got no beef right At the end 00:18:46.549 --> 00:18:49.269 of doctor winter soldier Sam and Bucky are good 00:18:49.269 --> 00:18:52.049 in brave new world it's Bucky who comes to see 00:18:52.049 --> 00:18:55.250 Sam in a hospital and Say it's okay, and they 00:18:55.250 --> 00:18:57.150 have that great scene. It's one of the best scenes 00:18:57.150 --> 00:19:00.309 in brave new world is one with Sam and Bucky 00:19:00.309 --> 00:19:02.640 Where Bucky's like yeah? Look, this is going 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:05.900 to have to do. It's a great scene. And then at 00:19:05.900 --> 00:19:08.019 the end credits are like, well, did you talk 00:19:08.019 --> 00:19:09.839 to Sam? And he's like, yeah, it didn't go well. 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:15.599 And I'm like, the fuck happened? Like. So unless 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:19.519 there's another movie within that 14 months that 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.099 has a lot of backstory. There's not, though. 00:19:24.339 --> 00:19:26.799 But like the only the only thing I can think 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:33.309 of is Sam is pissed. Because, like, how dare 00:19:33.309 --> 00:19:38.349 you take these criminals. Nutsos and make them 00:19:38.349 --> 00:19:44.970 the Avengers. Like you have JV. Captain America, 00:19:45.170 --> 00:19:48.230 like that's you should not be allowed. Like you're 00:19:48.230 --> 00:19:50.630 disgracing my friend Captain America. I think 00:19:50.630 --> 00:19:55.950 you can let Yelena in. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And ghosts 00:19:55.950 --> 00:20:02.539 didn't do anything wrong. Not really. Yeah. I 00:20:02.539 --> 00:20:05.579 get I get US agent. I get JV Captain America, 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.839 but not Bucky. Bucky's fine. Elaine is fine. 00:20:09.539 --> 00:20:11.680 Right. Yeah. So again, this is where I get confused. 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:14.059 Now, moving on at the end of that end credits 00:20:14.059 --> 00:20:15.519 scene, they're like, there's a ship coming in. 00:20:15.579 --> 00:20:17.000 It's an extra dimensional ship entering the thing. 00:20:17.099 --> 00:20:19.500 And they're like, bring up a satellite. And it 00:20:19.500 --> 00:20:22.380 is at somebody. I saw somebody post this. Do 00:20:22.380 --> 00:20:25.339 not read the credits. If you don't want to be 00:20:25.339 --> 00:20:27.279 spoiled about the end scene before you get there, 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:29.359 because in the credits, they say the Fantastic 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:32.000 Four theme. And I was like, I didn't hear the 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:35.519 Fantastic Four theme during the movie. Right. 00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:38.779 And then we get to the end credits and that extra 00:20:38.779 --> 00:20:41.460 special ship comes in. And it's very obviously 00:20:41.460 --> 00:20:44.140 that design you've seen in the trailers, that 00:20:44.140 --> 00:20:47.700 retro 60s rocket. And then it spins and we get 00:20:47.700 --> 00:20:56.799 a big four. Yep. So. Uh yeah. Something's going 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:58.900 to happen this summer at Fantastic Four where 00:20:58.900 --> 00:21:02.519 they're going to leave and come to the 616. Yeah. 00:21:02.940 --> 00:21:06.259 Um and we also learned something else very important 00:21:06.259 --> 00:21:11.680 in that post credit scene. Remind me. Uh Bob 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:15.319 can do the dishes. Bob can't do the dishes. Bob 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:17.640 is still there but he's not using his powers 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:20.579 because he's afraid of the void. Which is very 00:21:20.579 --> 00:21:23.400 valid like Fair enough. He's like, they're both 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:29.019 there. Like, I got to be careful. Yeah. I think 00:21:29.019 --> 00:21:31.220 it's going to be interesting going into doomsday. 00:21:32.500 --> 00:21:35.200 Yeah, this is a good setup for Fantastic Four. 00:21:35.339 --> 00:21:37.720 It's a good setup. We got a new Avengers team 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:41.599 now in Avengers doomsday that can assemble with 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:48.579 Sam's Avengers and you'd be fine. Yeah. Try to 00:21:48.579 --> 00:21:49.599 think if there's anything else we want to talk 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:55.119 about during the spoiler review. Yeah. I don't 00:21:55.119 --> 00:22:00.160 know. What was your favorite funny moment? That 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.900 wasn't in the trailers. That wasn't in the trailers. 00:22:10.940 --> 00:22:15.160 Trying to think what my favorite funny moment 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:21.440 was. I think I think. Oh, me. Go ahead. No, go 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:25.579 ahead. All right. I think for me, when when they're 00:22:25.579 --> 00:22:27.819 going through the different worlds and then all 00:22:27.819 --> 00:22:29.720 of a sudden they start getting the shit beat 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:32.519 out of them by the guy in the chicken costume. 00:22:32.940 --> 00:22:42.579 Oh, yeah. I was on math. I was on. That that 00:22:42.579 --> 00:22:45.400 to me was hilarious because it came out of nowhere. 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:49.500 So I don't know, it's just. That was funny. Yeah. 00:22:49.579 --> 00:22:52.000 What about Bob? If that chicken hits me one more 00:22:52.000 --> 00:23:06.920 time. Gosh. I think I one of them I think of 00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:09.660 is that they come busting in with the truck and 00:23:09.660 --> 00:23:11.539 they get into the big fight scene in the truck. 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:14.220 And then she's like, I just had that drywall 00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:18.490 replaced. The doors open. Like y 'all can just 00:23:18.490 --> 00:23:23.910 come upstairs and they're like, oh Okay, and 00:23:23.910 --> 00:23:26.390 this is like and then like he walks by and head 00:23:26.390 --> 00:23:28.670 butts the dude on his way through and then they 00:23:28.670 --> 00:23:33.789 just go upstairs like mmm Yep, like that entire 00:23:33.789 --> 00:23:41.069 fight was totally unnecessary. Yep We fought 00:23:41.069 --> 00:23:43.950 them because we thought we had to but we didn't 00:23:43.950 --> 00:23:49.019 you know There are some great moments. I hope 00:23:49.019 --> 00:23:52.539 we see more of Wendell Pierce Congress guy. I 00:23:52.539 --> 00:23:58.400 love what appears as an actor right I Did like 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:00.440 at the end when she went when Valentina tries 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:02.480 to turn around she's like look what I did the 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:04.720 new Avengers and I was like Oh somebody better 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:07.480 do something the thing that redeemed that scene 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:10.880 for me as I was about to be pissed again Because 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.359 they were like we're gonna beat the crap out 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:14.509 of her We're going to break her bones. I was 00:24:14.509 --> 00:24:16.130 like, thank God she's finally going to get her 00:24:16.130 --> 00:24:18.910 come up. And then you go through and there's 00:24:18.910 --> 00:24:21.109 the press and she's like, these are the new Avengers. 00:24:21.789 --> 00:24:24.190 And then you later goes over and it's like, we 00:24:24.190 --> 00:24:28.730 own you now. I so thought she was going to punch 00:24:28.730 --> 00:24:31.890 her in the face in front of that was even better 00:24:31.890 --> 00:24:34.869 because she was like, now you have not because 00:24:34.869 --> 00:24:38.490 you turned us into the heroes. Yeah. So you're 00:24:38.490 --> 00:24:42.809 screwed. Right and I loved that line from Yelena 00:24:42.809 --> 00:24:47.670 like we own you now. It's like yes Yeah, it was 00:24:47.670 --> 00:24:50.509 good. If you're not gonna kill her at least make 00:24:50.509 --> 00:24:56.390 her useful. Um So there you go folks, what were 00:24:56.390 --> 00:24:58.450 your favorite moments from Thunderbolts, I hope 00:24:58.450 --> 00:25:00.089 you enjoyed the spoiler review I think we're 00:25:00.089 --> 00:25:02.450 right on 24, which is perfect. Uh, so thank you 00:25:02.450 --> 00:25:05.190 for joining us for this lovely spoiler talk And 00:25:05.190 --> 00:25:08.349 we will see you next time. See you next time