Well, Jay and I just got back from a day zero
screening of Thunderbolts asterisk today This
is the second to last film. We were getting out
of the MCU before Avengers Doomsday Doomsday
with only fantastic four first steps remaining
Before we get to our next Avengers film So without
further ado Jay scale of 1 to 10. What do you
rate the Thunderbolts? I'm gonna give it a solid
8 .5. You're giving it a solid 8 .5. You were
a little higher than me I'm at a seven, right?
Like leaning toward an eight, but still a seven
for me. We had a couple of conversations right
after the movie about this, and I'll upfront
this. For me, I'd seen all the trailers and the
marketing. My biggest issue with the film was
I clocked the ending very early. It was pretty
telegraphed kind of how it was going to end.
Not in a bad way, but I was just like, oh, okay,
yeah, I see where this is going. There were still
a couple little surprises. But I clocked it really,
really early. You didn't. You were pleasantly
surprised. Yeah, that is what being a DC child
gets you. Sometimes you're surprised by the MC.
You're like, wait a minute. What? My. There were
some good family themes, and I think the stuff
at the end, we're going to do a spoiler video.
So if you're watching this review, this is our
spoiler -free review. Go to the other video.
There's another video on the channel that's uploaded
right after this one that will be our spoiler
talk about Thunderbolts, and we're going to talk
about all the spoilery details. So if you don't
want spoilers, you're okay. We're just talking
about the movie here. There was a lot of themes
like with mental health and family and and together.
You really liked. So talk about like what you
were what what really drove you about those ones.
I. I just really liked it's kind of dark and
it is. It really hits home, I think, for a lot
of people in like today's world, like it's this
isn't like a oh, I went. And I saw like Iron
Man just like beat up bad guys for like an hour
and a half. And like I went home and was like,
OK, cool. Like it wasn't a brain rot movie. You.
You were like, OK, like, yeah, like sometimes
I feel lonely and sometimes I feel helpless and
it's. They really had that under, I don't know,
that undertone throughout the movie. They gave
you some stuff to chew on. Yeah, it's like oh
shit. Okay. Damn. Okay. We're going here. All
right it's like if you've ever been to church
and you Swear that like the preacher is talking
directly to you. That's how this movie is. Yes
Um, let's talk a little bit about the performances
the first one I want to highlight is Julia Louis
Dreyfus as Valentina D Fontaine as she she points
out very early in the film She does such a good
job of making me absolutely despise her. The
entire film, I was like, well, somebody please
just kill this woman. I do not like you. Go away.
I just want you to go away. And about three quarters
of the way through the movie, I was like, wait,
this is actually what she's going for. She is
trying to make this character just, you don't
like her at all. There is not a single redeeming
quality. Nothing. And she does a really good
job of that. Which performance has kind of stood
out to you? I mean, the very obvious one, the
actress I play is Elena. I mean, yeah, you get
so much of her in this movie, like way more than
any of the other movies. So I really liked it.
And there's like some. I don't know, like some
really like iconic moments, I think, like throughout
the movie that you're just like, like one, it's
like, damn, like the scene looks really, really
good. And then it's just like. Yeah, she's just
a total, you know, total awesome rock star in
this movie. They give her a lot of deeper stuff
to work with in this film than you saw in either
Blackwood or Hawkeye, where we've seen her previously.
And as and as much as I loved her, her interactions
with Kate Bishop and Hawkeye and her interactions
with Natasha Romanoff and Black Widow, this is
much deeper. Right. There are some points where
she goes back and forth between calling Red Guardian
Dad and Alexi. Did you notice that? I noticed
the dad a couple of. A couple of points. And
then when she's mad at him, she calls him a Lexi.
Yeah. Yeah. There's definitely this like throughout
the movie, like kind of like this feel of like,
no, like you weren't there for me. You're not
my dad. I'm mad at you. And then it's like, but
you're my dad. Yeah. That kind of brings us to
David Harbour, who I think is just having a blast
playing Red Guardian. He's just he's having so
much fun. Oh, he loves those. Yeah. If if Yelena
is the soul of this movie and she's definitely
the POV character, she's the one we're supposed
to be watching this film through. I kind of feel
like he's the heart of this movie. Like he's
he's he's the whole time. He's like, I want everyone
to be together. I want. better things the whole
time. He's like. Let's do better. And I'm like,
you know, and he's just having so much fun. Yeah.
Being him that crazy Russian, you know, White
Russell does a pretty good job as John Walker.
Oh, yeah. Solid. They don't really give Ghost
a whole lot to do. She's fine. There's nothing
wrong with her performance, but she's definitely
kind of the odd one out. in the Thunderbolts.
And I'll be honest, I didn't love Sebastian Stan's
performance. You and I talked about this a little
bit and disagreed. It just it felt a little like
gruff, angry guy. The whole time. Yeah, I I think
one. So one, we didn't. You don't you don't see
a whole lot of him like he's there, but he's
not doing anything very like meaningful throughout
about halfway through the movie. Yeah. I think
one that might have been like a director like,
hey, like we already know your backstory. You've
already been you've already had your spotlight.
We want to focus on these new heroes. But then
also, I think like the whole like rough tough
guy, I think I think and this is just my theory,
but I think like they're trying to gear him up
to be a leader of, you know, kind of, I don't
know, whoever replaces the Avengers or whatever,
you know, it's like, hey, like I need to be this
like tough guy or any kind of together. Maybe
I guess my problem was just like I look at Falcon
and the Winter Soldier. Right. Did you watch
that show? Yeah. They kind of tried to like they
tried to smooth a lot of his rough edges like
give him some humanity because he's not the Winter
Soldier anymore. Right. Yeah. You know, and the
the stuff with Sam's sister and, you know, just
like him trying to not be the Winter Soldier
anymore. And I kind of felt like this was a step
backwards for for Bucky. You know. Yeah. I mean,
I don't know. Maybe maybe they did some marketing
research and they were like, no, we don't really
like the smooth Bucky. Like we want the the rougher
Bucky. I don't know. Maybe. Overall, I think
that this is definitely one of the better films
in this face of the MCU. Yes. Yes. I was actually
kind of surprised because I was like, I hope
it's good. I don't really know, though. This
could kind of be like a movie. I'm just going
to go check it out. And then I was actually surprised.
I actually loved the movie. It was great. I don't
know about Bob. We like Bob. We see Bob in the
trailers. Bob is there. We don't see a lot of
Bob in the trailers, but we do see Bob. Bob is
Bob's there. Bob is funny. I liked Bob. You know,
he was he was good. Right and we'll talk about
that go to the spoiler Video if you want to know
more about Bob Bob is important, right? You guys
don't get that. He the whole story hinges on
Bob Post credit scenes, we're not gonna spoil
them here both worth watching one is very funny
It's just silly and then the other one starts
like oh, this is silly and that's like, oh no,
this is actually important And again, we'll talk
about that. Go check out our spoiler view for
talk about the post credit scenes in. Yeah, we'll
put it. We'll put a card somewhere here up down
that way. So, yeah, overall, Jay's got this at
an eight point five. I've got it at a solid seven
leaning toward an eight. Overall, we enjoyed
it. We saw it in IMAX, which I thought was great.
Yeah, it's a visually very stimulating movie.
I would like to thank the nice folks at AMC Obviously,
you know, the title is Thunderbolts with an asterisk.
They gave us these cool metal We all got cool
metal asterisk keychains with the Thunderbolts
in IMAX It's hard to see on there in the back
and they're actually like they're solid metal.
They're like We walked in we did our tickets
and they were like here here's some stuff and
we're like, oh neat presents What was the last
time you got a present at the movie? I think
it was back in the day when they used to do like
midnight premieres. I don't know. I'm too old,
too old to do midnight premieres. Yeah. But I
remember they used to do like the they would
hand you out like the the miniature movie poster.
Yeah. Be like, oh, here's a movie poster. Here's
me. I actually like this better than a movie
poster. I mean you run out of wall space you
do and this again This is metal like I can put
it on something and you know, I can feel solid
So thank you AMC slash Marvel for my my asterisk
Right, um Yeah, have you seen Thunderbolts yet?
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