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officially a flop we wanted to give it to the second week because maybe word of
mouth would would buoy it it opened way lower than was expected and its second
week it was even worse it now has the largest second week drop of any comic
book movie in history dropping 81% to less than 8 million in week 2 I think
Deadpool did better than that it now basically there's no chance of getting
anywhere close to break even after the success of the first Joker movie which
Jay you really liked um yeah I honestly I liked both of them what the hell
happened all right I think this is my this is just my theory I think a few
things happened okay one at the end of Joker one like kind of the Joker is
revealed right so it's a story about Arthur going through his life and then
at the very end you get teased with the Joker a little bit and so I think one
fans wanted this action-packed Joker and the second Joker film but also you're
coming from Deadpool Wolverine right so you have this R-rated action-packed
awesome adventure I think I think fans were wanting that I don't think they
were really kind of wanting a kind of deep storyline of like a reflection of
our society where no one cares who you are we just care about like the persona
that you put on kind of thing so I don't know I think it was a great movie but
now with the movie like fans wanted so a couple of things that I saw about the
film and I'm curious to hear about your interpretation this one the musical
acts aspect of it right oh my god it was a jukebox musical in that it's all like
covers and pop songs and things like that but to my understanding it didn't
really add to the story they weren't telling the stories of the music it was
like here's some story story story and then here's a musical number and then
with that and then we're gonna go on some other story story story and here's a
musical number would that be an accurate telling of what they ended up doing
there yeah and I I think that's like Arthur's way of trying to cope with like
what's going on around him like his mental health like he's envisioning this
like musical thing I'm also I think like Lady Gaga wouldn't do it if it wasn't
some sort of like singing or something going on in there yeah absolutely but I
mean I agree it didn't really add much to it it was a little I don't know
misplaced so I will agree with that I don't think it was like enough to be a
musical though I don't know so the other thing I'll say is maybe Todd Phillips
who's the director of Joker and Joker 2 I think he just needs to stay away from
sequels right hangover one which he also did great yeah hangover one was great
hangover two not so much right Joker one are you great Joker 2 not so much maybe
Todd maybe sequels just aren't your bag man I would argue though that's the
curse of the sequels it's always harder to pull off the second movie okay and I
will say like Transformers 1 amazing like I got and it bombs you see like and
it bombed to I I don't understand that like I remember like watching that in
the movie theaters back when they were doing midnight releases of movies I'm
telling you they've run that franchise into the ground well yeah but I mean the
first nobody nobody trust them nobody trust them Bumblebee was great Rise of
the Beasts not so much so they're going off what their last what their last kind
of run was and that's difficult oh yeah you know so yeah the first Joker made the
studio a billion dollars it was nominated for multiple Academy Awards
Joaquin Phoenix won an Academy Award for his portrayal of Arthur Flex slash the
Joker which is why they greenlit a second movie right we all knew like look you
made a billion dollars and that's not a small amount of money it's it's hard to
do and it was I believe the first R-rated movie to break a billion dollars was
Joker mm-hmm yeah I think I remember seeing that as well yeah right now
obviously Deadpool Wolverine came out this year and it well surpassed a billion
dollars as an R-rated movie so I get why they greenlit this the other thing I saw
is I saw a bunch of stuff where Todd Phyllis was talking about how they would
go in and rewrite the script in the morning and they'd like scrap pages of
I just I get the sense that they didn't really know what what they were trying to
say hmm interesting like the first one they had something to say about a broken
society and mental health and a broken person in a broken world and him getting
left behind I don't get the sense that that happened here yeah I mean that I
think that makes sense I think that's like fair to say but I will say I'm not
gonna spoil the movie for anyone at least I hope not I'm no spoilers but I
really kind of liked the ending because I will say like throughout the movie
there were things that were happening where like as a Batman fan growing up
always being like obsessed with Batman I was like that doesn't make sense that
doesn't make sense and there were things that I was like keeping track of like I
I'm a really bad movie critic because I just go to a movie to be entertained so
no I don't feel that you bad I mean like I'm just like oh yeah the movie was great
like for every movie unless I fall asleep in it which the only movie I fell
asleep in was the reboot of the Fantastic Four movie because that shit was bad
fan four sticks yeah yeah I was oh my god so yeah I mean like I enjoyed it but I
was keeping track of like this doesn't make sense like Harley Quinn would not
say this or do this the Joker would not say this or do this it's not adding up
and then at the very end of the movie not spoiling it I was like oh fuck it all
makes sense it kind of like had that not as good I will say but that like ending
of like the sixth sense where you're like wait shit wow okay like that makes
sense now Bruce Willis is dead the entire movie yeah that's not the ending of
the Joker 2 don't worry I did not spoil that for he's not dead yeah no he's not
he's not he's not dead um yeah yeah all right well let us know what you think
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