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which is error code 415 an unsupported media type Joker 2 folia do is

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officially a flop we wanted to give it to the second week because maybe word of

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mouth would would buoy it it opened way lower than was expected and its second

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week it was even worse it now has the largest second week drop of any comic

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book movie in history dropping 81% to less than 8 million in week 2 I think

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Deadpool did better than that it now basically there's no chance of getting

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anywhere close to break even after the success of the first Joker movie which

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Jay you really liked um yeah I honestly I liked both of them what the hell

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happened all right I think this is my this is just my theory I think a few

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things happened okay one at the end of Joker one like kind of the Joker is

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revealed right so it's a story about Arthur going through his life and then

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at the very end you get teased with the Joker a little bit and so I think one

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fans wanted this action-packed Joker and the second Joker film but also you're

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coming from Deadpool Wolverine right so you have this R-rated action-packed

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awesome adventure I think I think fans were wanting that I don't think they

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were really kind of wanting a kind of deep storyline of like a reflection of

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our society where no one cares who you are we just care about like the persona

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that you put on kind of thing so I don't know I think it was a great movie but

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now with the movie like fans wanted so a couple of things that I saw about the

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film and I'm curious to hear about your interpretation this one the musical

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acts aspect of it right oh my god it was a jukebox musical in that it's all like

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covers and pop songs and things like that but to my understanding it didn't

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really add to the story they weren't telling the stories of the music it was

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like here's some story story story and then here's a musical number and then

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with that and then we're gonna go on some other story story story and here's a

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musical number would that be an accurate telling of what they ended up doing

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there yeah and I I think that's like Arthur's way of trying to cope with like

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what's going on around him like his mental health like he's envisioning this

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like musical thing I'm also I think like Lady Gaga wouldn't do it if it wasn't

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some sort of like singing or something going on in there yeah absolutely but I

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mean I agree it didn't really add much to it it was a little I don't know

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misplaced so I will agree with that I don't think it was like enough to be a

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musical though I don't know so the other thing I'll say is maybe Todd Phillips

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who's the director of Joker and Joker 2 I think he just needs to stay away from

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sequels right hangover one which he also did great yeah hangover one was great

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hangover two not so much right Joker one are you great Joker 2 not so much maybe

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Todd maybe sequels just aren't your bag man I would argue though that's the

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curse of the sequels it's always harder to pull off the second movie okay and I

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will say like Transformers 1 amazing like I got and it bombs you see like and

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it bombed to I I don't understand that like I remember like watching that in

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the movie theaters back when they were doing midnight releases of movies I'm

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telling you they've run that franchise into the ground well yeah but I mean the

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first nobody nobody trust them nobody trust them Bumblebee was great Rise of

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the Beasts not so much so they're going off what their last what their last kind

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of run was and that's difficult oh yeah you know so yeah the first Joker made the

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studio a billion dollars it was nominated for multiple Academy Awards

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Joaquin Phoenix won an Academy Award for his portrayal of Arthur Flex slash the

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Joker which is why they greenlit a second movie right we all knew like look you

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made a billion dollars and that's not a small amount of money it's it's hard to

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do and it was I believe the first R-rated movie to break a billion dollars was

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Joker mm-hmm yeah I think I remember seeing that as well yeah right now

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obviously Deadpool Wolverine came out this year and it well surpassed a billion

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dollars as an R-rated movie so I get why they greenlit this the other thing I saw

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is I saw a bunch of stuff where Todd Phyllis was talking about how they would

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go in and rewrite the script in the morning and they'd like scrap pages of

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I just I get the sense that they didn't really know what what they were trying to

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say hmm interesting like the first one they had something to say about a broken

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society and mental health and a broken person in a broken world and him getting

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left behind I don't get the sense that that happened here yeah I mean that I

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think that makes sense I think that's like fair to say but I will say I'm not

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gonna spoil the movie for anyone at least I hope not I'm no spoilers but I

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really kind of liked the ending because I will say like throughout the movie

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there were things that were happening where like as a Batman fan growing up

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always being like obsessed with Batman I was like that doesn't make sense that

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doesn't make sense and there were things that I was like keeping track of like I

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I'm a really bad movie critic because I just go to a movie to be entertained so

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no I don't feel that you bad I mean like I'm just like oh yeah the movie was great

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like for every movie unless I fall asleep in it which the only movie I fell

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asleep in was the reboot of the Fantastic Four movie because that shit was bad

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fan four sticks yeah yeah I was oh my god so yeah I mean like I enjoyed it but I

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was keeping track of like this doesn't make sense like Harley Quinn would not

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say this or do this the Joker would not say this or do this it's not adding up

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and then at the very end of the movie not spoiling it I was like oh fuck it all

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makes sense it kind of like had that not as good I will say but that like ending

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of like the sixth sense where you're like wait shit wow okay like that makes

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sense now Bruce Willis is dead the entire movie yeah that's not the ending of

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the Joker 2 don't worry I did not spoil that for he's not dead yeah no he's not

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he's not he's not dead um yeah yeah all right well let us know what you think

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drop us some stuff in the comments down below did you like Joker 2 some people

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did I get it's there's there's a not small portion of the audience that

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according to you know rotten tomatoes like 35% really likes the movie let us

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know did you like the movie did you think it was stupid there's comment down

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below