1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,800 Okay, so are you ready to talk about the future 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,240 of podcasting? 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,480 We're going deep on this one, a real deep dive 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,880 into where this whole industry is going. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,080 We've got your notes, some really interesting perspectives 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,280 from the industry. 7 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,400 Get ready to explore because it's way bigger 8 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,280 than just microphones and apps. 9 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,640 Yeah, it's pretty amazing to see how podcasting went 10 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,120 from this like niche thing to something everyone 11 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,520 in their grandma seems to be listening to. 12 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,240 It really feels like we're at this point 13 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,480 where technology, creativity, and this whole idea 14 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,440 of community are all smashing together. 15 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,280 Yeah. 16 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,640 And it's really changing how we listen to and watch stuff, 17 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,560 how we experience information and entertainment, 18 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,280 I think in some really big ways. 19 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,240 It's like we're in the middle of this huge shift 20 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,360 and it's only getting more interesting, you know? 21 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,200 Absolutely. 22 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,600 I mean, remember back in the day, podcasts were like 23 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,160 this really scrappy DIY kind of thing. 24 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:53,000 Oh yeah, absolutely. 25 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,040 The early 2000s, it was basically the Wild West 26 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:56,880 of podcasting. 27 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:57,720 Yeah. 28 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,520 And then all you needed was a microphone and a prayer. 29 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,840 And maybe some soundproofing. 30 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,920 And soundproofing, right. 31 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,480 If your neighbor was like a heavy metal drummer 32 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,080 or something, but as more people started listening, 33 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,320 the expectations, they kind of changed. 34 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,720 Yeah, it's not enough to just have a good microphone anymore. 35 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,560 Not at all. 36 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,680 These days, you, me, everyone listening, 37 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,560 we all want some level of polish. 38 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,920 You know, it's about the whole package, 39 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,240 how well it's produced, how the story's told, 40 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,240 even just the sound design. 41 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,080 Think about it. 42 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,000 You wouldn't watch a movie with terrible audio. 43 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,840 Right. 44 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,760 Podcasts are kind of getting to be the same way. 45 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,560 So just having a great idea, that's not enough anymore, 46 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,160 is it? 47 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,400 You really need to bring it to life 48 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,560 with like this extra level of quality 49 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,080 and, you know, just make it really good. 50 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:42,960 It's true. 51 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:44,920 But wouldn't that also mean that there are even more 52 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,560 opportunities now for something truly great 53 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,040 to really rise to the top? 54 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,560 Exactly. 55 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:50,600 It is a double-edged sword. 56 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Yeah. 57 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,160 The bar is higher. 58 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,960 But that also means there's more incentive 59 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,040 to make something really, really great. 60 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:57,920 Yeah. 61 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,080 The cream always rises. 62 00:01:59,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Right. 63 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,400 And we can't forget how much technology has changed the game. 64 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,560 The tools that podcasters have available to them now 65 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,200 are incredible. 66 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,040 I mean, AI-powered editing. 67 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:10,680 It's wide open. 68 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,480 Creating a studio quality sound from your couch, 69 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,600 it's mind-blowing. 70 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,200 It really is. 71 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,360 And I think that's been one of the biggest game changers, 72 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:17,960 you know? 73 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,460 Yeah. 74 00:02:18,460 --> 00:02:21,800 Imagine being able to edit out background noise, 75 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,800 or even adjust your audio levels with one click. 76 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,640 Yeah. 77 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:28,520 That's the kind of power that AI is bringing to podcasting. 78 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,280 And it's making it so much easier for people 79 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,120 to get that really professional sound. 80 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:32,640 Right. 81 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:34,360 And I think what that really means 82 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,360 is that now independent creators have more power than ever 83 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,960 to make amazing things. 84 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,440 It's like the playing field is being leveled. 85 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,520 Anyone with a good idea and the drive to learn 86 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,760 can potentially create something amazing. 87 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:49,920 You listening right now, you could 88 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:52,080 be recording a podcast episode from your couch 89 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,240 that sounds like a million bucks. 90 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,280 But it's not just about the recording side of things, 91 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:56,600 is it? 92 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:57,120 No. 93 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,840 Platforms like Spotify are making some pretty big moves 94 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,280 in the podcasting world. 95 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:02,920 Huge. 96 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:05,480 What kind of impact are you seeing that having 97 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,120 on the industry as a whole? 98 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Oh, it's a seismic shift for the entire industry. 99 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Spotify putting this much energy into podcasts, 100 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,920 especially like scooping up all these exclusive shows 101 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:19,360 and building all these new features, 102 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,480 it's really making everybody rethink how they do things. 103 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:22,960 Yeah. 104 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,920 It's shaking things up. 105 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:25,560 So does this mean that eventually we'll all 106 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,880 be listening to podcasts only on Spotify? 107 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,920 Like what happens to all the other platforms? 108 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:30,240 Yeah. 109 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,120 Feels like there are more questions than answers. 110 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Yeah, it's the million dollar question. 111 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,080 It's really hard to say how it's all 112 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,160 going to play out in the long run. 113 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,560 But one thing's for sure, it's definitely 114 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,360 going to be interesting. 115 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,760 It's like the Wild West is suddenly 116 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,240 getting a whole lot more interesting. 117 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:42,760 Exactly. 118 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,920 OK. 119 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,560 So we've got this incredible technology that's 120 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,120 changing, these big players entering the arena. 121 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,680 But there's another piece of this puzzle, right? 122 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,720 The listeners. 123 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:54,520 100%. 124 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,840 What's the deal with listeners these days? 125 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,080 I think people are realizing that they want more than just 126 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,080 something to listen to. 127 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,840 They want to be part of the conversation. 128 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,200 They want to connect with the creators and with other listeners. 129 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,880 And I think that's where the power of community comes in, 130 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,480 which is bigger than ever. 131 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,160 It's like your favorite podcast isn't just a show anymore. 132 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,360 It's like a key to this whole community 133 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,640 that you can be a part of. 134 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Exactly. 135 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,160 Exactly. 136 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,640 Podcasts are like building these really, really engaged 137 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,440 communities around what they're creating. 138 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:23,840 Yeah. 139 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:26,680 Facebook groups, live Q&As, all of it. 140 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,560 And it all kind of taps into that human need for belonging 141 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,880 and shared experience, which even in this digital world, 142 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,040 is a really powerful thing. 143 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:36,960 Oh, it really is. 144 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:37,760 Powerful. 145 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,240 And that feeling of connection, even if it's online, 146 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,720 kind of ties into this other trend 147 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,600 we've been seeing with podcasts becoming more and more niche. 148 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:46,120 Yeah. 149 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,000 It's like every interest has its own little corner 150 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,640 of the podcasting world now, right? 151 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:50,720 Totally. 152 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,200 It's crazy how much variety there is out there. 153 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,400 No matter how specific or how unusual you 154 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,840 think your interests are, chances are there's a podcast 155 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:00,320 out there that's perfect for you. 156 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,480 Oh, absolutely. 157 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:02,000 It's true. 158 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 I was just listening to this podcast the other day 159 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,760 about, get this, the history of office supplies. 160 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,760 I mean, who knew? 161 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,440 Staplers could be so fascinating. 162 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:09,880 Right. 163 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,920 And that's the beauty of it. 164 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,720 It's not about chasing the biggest audience anymore. 165 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,320 It's about finding your tribe, finding those people who get 166 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,680 just as excited about that obscure trivia as you do. 167 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,320 Totally. It makes you realize how much power there really 168 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,200 is in those niche interests. 169 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,360 And it's not just the listeners who benefit, right? 170 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,160 Like it's changing the game for podcasters, too, 171 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,960 especially when it comes to making money. 172 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,320 Oh, yeah. 173 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,360 That's such a good point. 174 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,240 This whole thing, this focus on authenticity and niche 175 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,440 communities, it's like completely changing the game 176 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,120 when it comes to how podcasts even generate revenue. 177 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,680 And for creators, especially finding your niche, 178 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,320 it can really be the key to building an actual income, 179 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,440 a real career. 180 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,760 So let's talk about the money, because you really 181 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,240 can make a living from podcasting now, which just seemed 182 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,680 crazy a few years ago. 183 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,680 It really did. 184 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,000 It's not a pipe dream anymore. 185 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,040 We're seeing it more and more. 186 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,280 Podcasters building legitimate careers 187 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:09,600 through sponsorships, through listener support, 188 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,680 premium content, all sorts of really creative avenues. 189 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,040 Yeah. 190 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,800 And platforms like Patreon have been really interesting to follow. 191 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,480 It's like this virtual tip jar where fans can just directly 192 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,520 support the creators that they love. 193 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,440 So instead of crossing your fingers 194 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,640 and hoping that some big company is going to sponsor your show, 195 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,080 you can actually build a connection 196 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,640 with the people who really value what you create. 197 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,600 And I think that's one of the really cool things 198 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,400 about this whole shift towards these more creator-funded models. 199 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,520 It really creates this sense of partnership 200 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,400 between creators and their audience. 201 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Like both sides feel valued, and they're both invested 202 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:45,920 in seeing the show succeed. 203 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:46,520 Yeah. 204 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,640 It's like building your own little media empire, 205 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,960 one passionate listener at a time. 206 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,080 OK. 207 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,320 But let's be real. 208 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,200 It's not always easy, is it? 209 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,520 Like with so many podcasts out there, 210 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,160 trying to get yours heard, trying to make it stand out, 211 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,200 it can feel like you're shouting into the void. 212 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,120 Oh, 100%. 213 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:04,720 It's true. 214 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,000 The podcasting world is definitely 215 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,840 getting more and more crowded, which means being 216 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:11,040 able to stand out, it's more important than ever. 217 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,160 So what's the secret? 218 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,760 Like how do you break through all that noise? 219 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,760 I think it comes down to authenticity, right? 220 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,360 Like that's your secret weapon. 221 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,080 Oh, OK. 222 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,320 In this world, it's just saturated with content. 223 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:21,800 Yeah. 224 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,160 You know? 225 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,720 It's your unique voice, your perspective, your take on things. 226 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,720 That's what's really going to connect with people authentically. 227 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,280 Yeah. 228 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,080 Don't try to be everything to everyone. 229 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:32,440 Right. 230 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,960 Just focus on what makes you and your podcast special, 231 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,920 and what you're truly passionate about. 232 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:38,960 I love that. 233 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,960 So it's not about being the loudest voice. 234 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,160 It's about being the realest you. 235 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,080 Exactly. 236 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,280 And don't get caught in that trap of comparing yourself 237 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,200 to everybody else. 238 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:49,600 Yeah. 239 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,560 Focus on making something that you're excited about that's 240 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,760 exceptional quality and the right people, they'll find you. 241 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,720 It might take time, but it's about the journey. 242 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,120 You got that right. 243 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaking of the journey, we've talked about the technology. 244 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,760 We talked about the content, the community aspect. 245 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,200 But what about the bumps along the road? 246 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,720 What are some of the biggest challenges 247 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,000 that you're seeing podcasters face today? 248 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,560 I mean, discoverability is a huge one. 249 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,600 With literally millions of podcasts out there, 250 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,560 it can be so hard to cut through the noise 251 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,640 and really connect with listeners. 252 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,400 And it's not enough to just create amazing content. 253 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,000 You have to be strategic about it. 254 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,080 You have to get it out there in front of the right people. 255 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:30,280 Yeah. 256 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,920 It's almost like you have to be your own marketing team 257 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,120 on top of everything else. 258 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:34,760 100%. 259 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,280 That's a really good way to put it. 260 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,360 And then there's the ever-present challenge 261 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,800 of monetization. 262 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Even though, like we were saying, 263 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,200 there are more opportunities than ever 264 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,840 to actually make money from podcasting, 265 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,680 it's still a tough business. 266 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:50,040 It takes a lot of work, a lot of dedication. 267 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,560 And let's be honest, a little bit of luck 268 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:54,640 doesn't hurt to be able to make it sustainable. 269 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,440 And then on top of all of that, we 270 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,120 can't forget about how quickly the landscape itself 271 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,440 is changing constantly all the time. 272 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,960 New platforms are popping up, new tools, new trends 273 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,600 to keep up with. 274 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,440 It's a lot. 275 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,120 It's sure, yeah. 276 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,160 For sure, this industry really doesn't slow down much, does it? 277 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,880 But I think that's also part of what makes it so exciting. 278 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,120 It's like this constantly moving landscape. 279 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,760 And it feels like there are always 280 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,360 new opportunities popping up. 281 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,440 That is a great way to put it. 282 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,080 There's never a dull moment, that's for sure. 283 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,440 So we've talked about some of the challenges, 284 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,360 but what about the flip side? 285 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,880 What are you personally most looking forward to when 286 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,360 you think about the future of podcasting? 287 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,440 That's a great question. 288 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,560 I think for me, I'm really interested to see 289 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:41,960 how this whole idea of niche communities evolves. 290 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,240 How deep can that connection between people making 291 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,200 the podcast and the people listening really go? 292 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,600 And I think we're just starting to figure that out. 293 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,160 I think we're just scratching the surface. 294 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,920 It seems like there's so much potential there. 295 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,200 There really is. 296 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,120 I think we're going to see more interactive things, 297 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,520 like formats and stuff, maybe more live events, 298 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,040 even more ways for people to actually participate 299 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,640 in the podcasts that they're listening to. 300 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,040 Wow, yeah. 301 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,080 Not just passively listening anymore. 302 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,880 Exactly, exactly. 303 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,400 Really making it a two-way street. 304 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Like taking that whole community aspect 305 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,320 to a whole other level, that's exciting. 306 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,800 Yeah, and then of course, I'm always 307 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,160 excited to see what happens on the tech side of things too. 308 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Oh, for sure. 309 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,680 How are all these new advancements 310 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:26,360 going to change how we make podcasts 311 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,920 and how we experience audio? 312 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,080 It feels like there's still so much potential waiting 313 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:30,920 to be unlocked. 314 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,400 From things like AI-powered editing to immersive sound 315 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,840 design, it does feel like we're right 316 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,160 on the edge of this revolution in how we even 317 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,000 use audio to tell stories and share ideas. 318 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,360 Wow, this whole conversation has been incredibly eye-opening. 319 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,880 It really, really does feel like the future of podcasting 320 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,280 is just wide open. 321 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,720 There's so much potential. 322 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:54,960 It really does feel that way. 323 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,280 And I think at the end of the day, 324 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,720 what it always comes down to is that basic human need 325 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,720 to connect with each other. 326 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,920 It's about being real. 327 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,360 Like we were talking about before, finding your people. 328 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,440 It's about the power of actually hearing 329 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,680 another person's voice. 330 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:13,480 It's powerful. 331 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,120 It can move you. 332 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,560 It can inspire you. 333 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:17,560 That human connection is at the heart of it all. 334 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:18,760 Absolutely. 335 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,760 Well, you've given us all a lot to think about. 336 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,240 So for everyone listening, what's 337 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,120 resonating with you most in this whole big world of audio? 338 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,360 What kind of podcast would you make? 339 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,280 What kind of community would you want to be a part of? 340 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:56,840 I want to hear from you.