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Hi volleyball fans and welcome back to Volley

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Talk, the podcast created for volleyball lovers

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who want to dig deep into what is going on in

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NCAA and international volleyball. I'm your host

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Sarah Pavan. I'm an Olympian, beach volleyball

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world champion, former Nebraska Cornhusker, and

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longtime pro both indoor and on the beach. And

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I'm Adam Schultz, former indoor player, international

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volleyball coach, and the show's resident stat

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guy. Week two of men's VNL has finished up. So

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we are heading into the final weeks for teams

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to qualify for the final eight. Some surprising

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results we'll get into. Some teams have been

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real hot. Some teams are ice cold. Not necessarily

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ones we expected either. So we got a lot to go

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over. We got another listener suggested segment

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for you guys. We are very excited as always.

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So let's get started. All right. Our biggest,

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we're going to continue with what we've been

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talking about in the weekly highlights in recent

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weeks, but there's a big development on the NCAA

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side that we're going to talk about as well.

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For MLV, we've had a few signings, teams kind

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of firming up their rosters, nothing huge to

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discuss. Depth moves? Sure. Love. has signed

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two more coaches, Carlo Parisi to Atlanta, who,

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I don't know if you remember, he was the coach

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for Bustor Ciccio and I played for Vila. Oh,

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they were a good team. Yeah, don't remind me.

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And so he's heading to Atlanta and Fernando Morales

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is heading to Madison to replace Matt Furbringer,

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who, as we know, is coaching the USA men's beach

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team. So those are the two. Coaching additions.

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We've had a few other international signings

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from Brazil. Elena. She's a very young outside

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that has made flashes of appearances here and

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there. We have Struba from Germany. Taupner from

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Serbia. Silves from France. And Martin from Belgium.

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So they are loading up. And those aren't. Good

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players. Like, Struva, she's a middle, right?

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I believe so. I've watched her play this V &L.

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She's good. Martin's a good player. Like, they're

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loading up international athletes. Yeah, and

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they're not the... Are they the Gabis, the Ana

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Cristinas, the... No. The Vargas, the Hawks?

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No, but... Those athletes are raising the level

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of the league, though. For sure. I like that

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they're bringing in international coaches because

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even for their domestic athletes, they're going

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to get exposure to maybe another way to train,

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some different thoughts around the game, which

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is why we always say, you know, go overseas and

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experiencing something different. I like these

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moves for them. I think they're good. So we got

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a question that kind of pertains to all of this.

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Are the recent Love and MLV signings further

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evidence that Love is the Premier League and

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MLV is a step down? This person reached out because

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some of like some of the signings for love are

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what we just mentioned. And then some are strange.

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For example, like Lindsey Krause signed and just

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like players kind of of that caliber that you're

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like, you weren't even playing an MLV. Do you

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know what I mean? So like there's some some very

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strange domestic signings that are happening.

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Do you want to take on that? Yeah. This is a

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question that was asked. If I had to guess, they're

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bringing in the international players to try

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and elevate a, the play of the league, but the

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reputation of the league around the world. And

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they're trying to pull domestic players that

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will put butts in the seats. I mean, they're

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obviously they're taking other good domestic

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players, but I think I bet you, if you look at

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the caliber of athlete that they're signing,

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they're signing like international, like VNL.

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competitors, and then athletes that I feel like

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do not belong in the league. Like, butts in the

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seats. I had to look up who some of these athletes

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were. I mean, fair, but do they have any geographical

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relevance to where they're playing? Yeah, they

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probably do, but like, I mean, Lindsey Krause

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isn't a Lauren Stiverins, isn't a... bergen -reilly

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situation do you know what i mean no but remember

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they have a bit of a holistic approach to so

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if these players are going out to the clubs and

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participating in community events or if they

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played for a love club a love affiliated club

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yes so there there's a few different avenues

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you can look at that and because they have the

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ability to send athletes wherever they want i

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i bet there is an internal strategy around a

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couple of those things I bet they do need examples

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on every roster of here's a player who played

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for X club in this state. That is a love club.

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And now she's representing on the pro level.

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They for sure. I think that's a good call by

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you. They're for sure looking for like players

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who have moved through the pathway. I honestly

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think MLV is making moves though. I think some

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of the signings at MLV. has made this off season

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is like narrowing the gap a little. I still think

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love is higher quality of play right now, but

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I think MLV is narrowing the gap with some of

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the signings they made. You know, we talked about

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Minnesota, some of the signings like with Samity

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and the international players they're bringing

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in Omaha's bringing in Kami minor Dallas has

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made some moves. So I think the gap is. but it's

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still very much there. Yeah, and we'll have to

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see what these teams look like. I would be curious.

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I know we talked about Shannon Windsor being

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there. If MLV can attract more international

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coaches. Well, we talked about some of the coach

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signings they've had. Which, again, I think is

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moving in the right direction. I will be curious

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to see if the styles of play in terms of execution

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and quality are... similar but the athletes are

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bigger in love so if you were to do a head -to

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-head like play the athletes are bigger but the

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executions similar like the styles faster it

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seems i i will have to watch and see how the

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season plays out but i'm curious how that goes

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well i think we're in like july -ish we're going

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to be seeing a lot of mlv names come out As love

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signings, I think they have to officially wait

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until the MLV contract expires before they announce

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their new one. So I think we're going to see

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a lot of MLV transfers in the summer months.

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All right. New NCAA rules. This is huge. We have

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a large question this week that pertains to this.

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But for those of you who haven't heard. The NCAA

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revamped their eligibility rules. So now you

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have five seasons of eligibility that you have

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to complete in five years. And your clock starts

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either when you enroll in college or when you

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turn 19, which this will eliminate the 21 -year

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-old European freshmen that are coming over.

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and are just more developed and more experienced

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than an 18 -year -old kid who just finished playing

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club. So that'll eliminate that. It will eliminate

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the people who are playing a year or two, going

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to play pro, and then coming back, which I think

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is great. In that regard, I think that this rule

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is awesome. They are completely getting rid of

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red shirts. The only exceptions to this are if

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you're serving in the military, if you are pregnant

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and have a maternity leave, or if you're serving

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a religious mission. But other than that, red

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shirts are not a thing. You have five years to

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play and then you're out. With what we've seen

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with Transfer Portal, with the new roster limit

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of 18 in volleyball, 18 scholarships. That was

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announced, I think, last year. How do you feel

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that this is going to change team dynamics, transfers,

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recruiting, all that? So first and foremost.

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Do you like this rule change? I do. I mean, let's

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be honest. These rule changes are targeted at

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men's football and basketball primarily. Like

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this is why those rules are coming down. But

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you had quarterbacks coming back who are 27 and

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who are still playing. Oh, seriously? Yeah. I

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was just hearing about the guys who went to play

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in the G League or played in Europe and then

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came back. Those are going to have the biggest

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effects in those leagues. I don't see it affecting

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the play so much on the women's side, but I do

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think there's a couple of things that are happening.

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One, you already mentioned the international

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transfers that come over after having three or

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four years of pro experience. I like that they're

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only going to get... you know two years of eligibility

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if they stay in their home country until they're

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21. like them being 24 25 and being able to play

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from an eligibility standpoint i think is unfair

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so i like it for that reason i think this makes

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the whole eligibility conversation simpler which

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i like you start at 19 you're not worried about

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putting a kid in for one match and blowing their

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red shirt. Or you've got like the Izzy Stark

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situation where she like played three matches

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and then she's like, can you give me a red shirt?

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It's like, no. Anytime I think you can make things

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simpler. I'm a fan of that. So I like that piece.

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I do think it's going to make the transfer portal

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and recruiting different. I'm not a hundred percent

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sure what that's going to look like, but now

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if you have, You don't have to fight for your

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fifth year. You're going to have athletes stay

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longer and still with only 18 roster spots. What

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is that going to look like? My instinct is you're

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going to see people get forced out of programs

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to bring in young kids in their fourth and fifth

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year if they don't, quote unquote, pan out. It'll

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probably be done on the slide. You won't hear

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about it, but they'll leave the program. But

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I think they'll be... situations like that i

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think is where you're going to see the most effect

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in the women's volleyball and i think it's going

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to take really special freshmen to actually start

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or to actually play because i mean schools are

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going to want to hold on to their studs yeah

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for those five years so those on court spots

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are going to be more limited than they already

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are so i think the day It's going to be, it's

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already rare, but it's going to be incredibly

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rare to have a five -time All -American, what

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is currently a four -time, obviously. I think

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that's going to be just, you know, a unicorn

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type situation because programs are going to

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hold on to dear life to their stud players. People

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are going to be riding the bench for a long time.

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I do actually think this is going to affect the

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men's game more than the women's because you

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have older players who have come over. A lot

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of foreign players. I think of like David for

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UCLA was what, 26, 27? Well, a lot of the Europeans

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are like 21 -year -old freshmen. Yeah, so I think

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you're actually going to see a change in the

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men's game in terms of how old those players

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are. And again, I think it's fair. I remember

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going into university as a freshman and, you

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know, young male, you think you're all that.

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And then you play against guys who are four.

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And in Canada, you have five years of eligibility.

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So you walk onto the court with guys who've been

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lifting for real for five years and they just

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kind of step on you and put you in your place.

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Like there is a stark difference. Those years

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make both on the men and women's side. So closing

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that gap from like 18 to 27 to like 18. The 24

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will help with that, I think, and level the playing

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field a little. In theory, I like this. I just

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think that there are so many unintended consequences

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of all these rule changes. There will be no program

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loyalty anymore. There already isn't, but I think

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it's going to get even worse. Trust me. Even

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back when I was playing, coaches were forcing

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players out. I think it's going to be even worse.

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And I honestly feel bad for high school kids

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and players who are trying to get recruited out

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of high school. I think it's going to be, it's

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already hard for the majority of athletes. I

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think it's going to be incredibly difficult.

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You're going to see high end medium talent go

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to a medium school for a year where they can

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start and then transfer out. I think that's going

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to become very common. Like what some athletes

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do with Juco. Like they go and they play for

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a year or two. The mid -range D1 programs are

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going to become the new JUCOs. Oh my gosh. That's

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a, that's, you could be right. It's so, I don't

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know. I'm so curious. I like it, but I'm very

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curious to see what the unintended consequences

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are. I think the intent behind the changes, I

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think are positive and bring parody and clarity

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to. Who can play when? And I actually think this

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moves it back to more of a pure college sport.

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No, I think if this happened 20 years ago, it

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would have been great. I think it would have

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been so pure. You would get out of it exactly

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what it's intended. Now with NIL, with the transfer

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portal going absolutely bonkers. But at least

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you won't have ex -pros coming back to make more

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money in college than they can make playing pro.

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Well, if they do, they'll do it for a year. They

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only got a year. We had a listener suggested

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segment. They wanted us to go over our predictions

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for the final eight in VNL. So this could be

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lengthy because there are many mutations with

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a week left. We're just guessing. We can make

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educated guesses, but this is a tough exercise.

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So let's go through team by team starting at

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who has the most points so far. We'll go over

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the matches they have and then which ones we

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think they'll win. And then we can kind of see

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how that plays out. Okay. So for men and women,

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we'll do women first. Just a fun fact. Five of

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the current top six ranked teams heading into

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week three are all playing in the same location.

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Love it. Wow. The teams that I kind of feel are

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in the running. I put down 10. Okay. Sarah did

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all the research for this one, so kudos to her,

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and I'm flying off her info. Currently, USA and

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Brazil have seven wins. Italy, Poland, Japan,

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and Turkey have six. Canada and China have five,

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and then Netherlands and Czech have four. The

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teams that have won three so far, I kind of counted

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them out. Was that a mistake? Maybe. But you

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know what? We're doing it. Just a quick run through.

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Hit me. USA currently in first. In week three,

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they're playing Thailand, Poland, Turkey, and

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Brazil in Japan. My instinct is they beat Thailand

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and they win one of those other three games.

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You think just one? I think just one. I think

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they're going to come away from week three with

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two or three wins. I think they're going to beat

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Thailand. I think they are going to... Turkey

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has like... a ton of injuries to their starting

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lineup. Like I feel like the only healthy ones

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are Kansu and Vargas. And the other ones are

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like maybe going to play, but have been like

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fighting injury to get there. So I don't think

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Turkey is going to be at their strongest. And

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as we discussed last week, Karakurt can't play

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for another several weeks. So she's out. I think

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USA will beat Turkey. And then I'm, if they're

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going to beat Poland. I don't think they're going

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to beat Brazil. So I think they're leaving with

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two or three wins, which will give them nine

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or ten total. Brazil has Japan, Poland, Thailand,

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and USA. I think they're going to win three or

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four of those. I think they're going to beat

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Poland, Thailand, and USA. I'm unsure they are

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playing in Japan. I feel like if Japan has...

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The magic. Puts it all together. I think that

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one could go either way. I agree with you. I'm

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going to say Brazil is going to win three. I

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think Japan is going to win out at home. Okay.

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So with those numbers, Brazil could end with

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10 or 11 wins with our predictions. Italy is

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playing Ukraine, Belgium, Canada, and China.

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They're playing in Hong Kong and it's been announced

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that their regular starters are going to be back.

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So I have them winning all of those. Yes. In

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three or four. Bonus points for Adam. With that,

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they're going to finish with 10 wins. Poland

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is playing Turkey, USA, Brazil, and Japan. That's

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tough. I think they'll beat Turkey and then maybe

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USA. I think they come out with two wins. I'm

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saying one or two wins. So that will leave them

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with seven or eight total. Japan is playing Brazil,

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Thailand, Turkey, and Poland. I think Japan's

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going to win out. I think they're going to win.

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Either win out or lose to Brazil. Okay. You think

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they beat Poland? Yes. So that hat leaves them

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with 9 or 10. Again, these are predictions. We

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know that things happen. Like random stuff happens,

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but like based on what we've seen in our educated

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guesses, this is the best we can do right now.

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Turkey is playing Poland, USA, Japan, and Thailand.

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One win. I think the injury bug is real. Do you

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think one? I think one. I think one, maybe two.

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I don't think they beat Japan. I don't think

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they beat Poland. And I don't think they'll beat

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the US. Okay, so that'll leave them with seven

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or eight. Canada plays China, Belgium, Italy,

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Dominican in Hong Kong. I'm saying they're splitting

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those two and two. So I think they will beat

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Belgium. I think they're going to lose to Italy.

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And then I think they're definitely capable of

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winning the next two. But given what they normally

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do, I feel like they're going to blow one of

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them. Yeah, I mean, you're basically hoping that

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Kira Van Rijk plays out of her mind. For four

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matches, which... Like, I think that they should

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beat Dominican, but I also wouldn't be surprised

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if they completely folded like a cheap tent.

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100%. That's what I'm saying, too. I think they

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could beat China, but I also wouldn't be surprised

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if China slapped them. Like, you know what I

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mean? So I'm saying they're leaving there with

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two. You and I are on the same page. Okay, so

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they would have seven. And then China is playing

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Canada, Ukraine, Dominican, Italy. I think they're

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winning three of those. I don't think they're

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beating Italy. Yeah, I would agree with that.

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So that would give them eight. Netherlands is

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playing France, Czech, Germany, Serbia in Serbia.

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So I don't think they're beating Serbia. I don't

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think they're beating Serbia either. And honestly,

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I think Czech is going to beat them. Czech is

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my dark horse team. Yeah, I don't think a Netherlands

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gets one or two wins on that one. I think two

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or three match. Max, I think the Czech Netherlands

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game could be good. Yeah, I think Germany will

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probably beat the Netherlands as well. You do?

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Yeah. Okay, so Adam has Netherlands tanking.

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And Czech is playing Germany, Netherlands, Bulgaria,

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and France in Belgrade. So they're avoiding Serbia

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in Serbia. They could very easily sweep that

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pool. I think they're going to win three at least.

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Okay, so they're going to have seven or eight

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points. So based on our calculations, we have

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Brazil coming out number one with 10 or 11 wins.

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We then have Italy with 10 because even if they

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max out, that's the most they can get. Then we

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have Japan and the US with nine or 10. Again,

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it depends how many they win, but I think Japan

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playing in Japan is a big advantage. So I'm going

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to give them the boost. So I'm going to say Japan

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three, USA four. Then we got Turkey, who's also

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going to potentially have eight. We've got China

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with potentially eight. We've got Poland with

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seven or eight. Then Czech with seven or eight.

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Well, so basically what's going to happen is

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eight points probably gets you in for sure. Seven

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puts you on the bubble. Eight will get you in

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for sure, yeah. So we're looking at... Czech,

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Netherlands, Canada probably fighting for those

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last spots. Yeah, I think it's definitely going

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to be Czech, Netherlands, Canada fighting for

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the last spot. I think Netherlands is out for

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sure. So hypothetically, let's say Turkey A5,

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China 6, Poland 7. Then Czech, Canada battling

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for the last spot. Who do you think is going

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to pucker? I mean, if I had to pick, it's going

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to be Canada. Given pucker history, yeah, it

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could be Canada. So I'm going to say Czech is

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going to come in just because... But I don't

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know. I think Canada, this is like their chance

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of making the final eight. The thing... And the

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pool is like set up. It is set up for them to

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make it. You know what I mean? It comes down

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to how good Kira can be, which is really tough.

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No, or just like... No. How... not bad. The left

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sides can be like, can two of the four left sides

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get it together? Do you know what I mean? Kira

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is Kira. She's going to generate points from

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the service line. Sometimes she can be error

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prone on the attack every now and then, but this

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VNL, she has proven that she is up to the task.

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I think. I don't disagree with you, but I think.

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The middles, particularly Maglio, have been running

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well. Maglio has played well. But here's what's

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going to happen. You're going to have the matches

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be on the line. You're going to know you have

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to win these matches and they are just going

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to feed. So Alexa Gray can't be on the court.

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No. And that's the thing is like. No, that's

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what I'm saying. The question comes down to do

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will two left sides get it together? When it's

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on the line. I understand what you're saying,

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but I don't even think it matters because I think

00:24:03.869 --> 00:24:06.470
they're just going to set the right side because

00:24:06.470 --> 00:24:09.349
they know they have to win. I think it's going

00:24:09.349 --> 00:24:12.089
to come down to just like... I don't think that's

00:24:12.089 --> 00:24:14.730
going to happen. Can the left sides pass? Can

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they score in transition? I mean, fair. Because

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if they pass, they can run the middle. I actually

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think it's going to come down to how Kira serves

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because they've been behind in many matches.

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She allows them to run three or four points and

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get back in and have a chance. If she serves

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well all week, they have a chance. If she doesn't,

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I think Czech will win. So you think Czech is

00:24:39.890 --> 00:24:43.789
going to squeak in? I think expecting Kira to

00:24:43.789 --> 00:24:48.569
have four all -world matches is probably unrealistic.

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You know what? I'm going Canada. Why not? Good

00:24:52.390 --> 00:24:59.200
for you. Okay, so our... Very fuzzy final eight

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ranking for women is Brazil, Italy, Japan, USA,

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Turkey, China, Poland. And then we're fighting

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about Canada and Czech. Poland might finish ahead

00:25:13.619 --> 00:25:16.279
of Turkey, depending on how injured Turkey is.

00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:20.059
Yeah. But those three spots with Poland, Turkey,

00:25:20.099 --> 00:25:24.569
China are up for debate. But honestly. Given

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this potential, I think Brazil, Italy, Japan

00:25:28.769 --> 00:25:32.069
are making the final four for sure. I agree.

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I think USA's fate depends on who's the five

00:25:36.509 --> 00:25:40.210
seed. Turkey, China, Poland. Agreed. I don't

00:25:40.210 --> 00:25:43.190
know. But I think Brazil, Italy, Japan are going

00:25:43.190 --> 00:25:46.750
to be in the final four. I think that's probably

00:25:46.750 --> 00:25:50.369
a safe bet. Okay. Write it down. Lock it in.

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When you said this was a fuzzy picture, do you

00:25:53.390 --> 00:25:55.930
know those eye puzzles where you have to kind

00:25:55.930 --> 00:25:58.009
of... Magic eye. You cross your eyes. That's

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what this is. This is a magic eye volleyball

00:26:00.329 --> 00:26:04.470
board. Match one of week three. This all is going

00:26:04.470 --> 00:26:06.089
to be out the window. It's going to be like...

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Netherlands wins. Netherlands wins. Beat Serbia.

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Okay. Let us know your thoughts. Let us know

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who you would pick and the exact order. And how

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many points. Because it's really like, this is

00:26:22.509 --> 00:26:24.630
hard. You never know what's going to happen.

00:26:25.069 --> 00:26:28.710
Okay, let's dive into our men's final eight predictions.

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This one will probably be a little more extensive

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because there are still a lot of teams that could

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still be in contention. Everybody but Canada.

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Leading the pack right now is Japan with eight

00:26:41.950 --> 00:26:45.529
wins. They, in week three, are playing Italy,

00:26:45.690 --> 00:26:49.910
Belgium, Canada, and Argentina in Japan. They're

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going to beat Canada. They're going to beat Belgium.

00:26:51.490 --> 00:26:56.109
We'll see who Italy travels. And Argentina played

00:26:56.109 --> 00:26:57.890
better this week, but they'll probably still

00:26:57.890 --> 00:27:00.269
beat them too. So I have them winning three or

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four matches, which would push them to 11 or

00:27:04.109 --> 00:27:08.089
12 on the tournament. USA is currently in second

00:27:08.089 --> 00:27:12.049
with six wins. They have got China, Brazil, Bulgaria,

00:27:12.170 --> 00:27:16.450
and Poland. They're playing in Chicago. Two or

00:27:16.450 --> 00:27:19.299
three. Really? I have them winning three or four.

00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.640
You think they'll beat Poland? I think Poland

00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:24.960
is the question mark. I think Poland is the match

00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:26.640
that could go either way. You think they'll beat

00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.579
Bulgaria? Yeah. That's fair. Okay. Yeah. I think

00:27:30.579 --> 00:27:34.339
probably three. Okay. Well, so with those numbers,

00:27:34.420 --> 00:27:38.019
that would push them to nine or ten wins. Poland

00:27:38.019 --> 00:27:40.160
is currently in third with six. They're playing

00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:44.920
Bulgaria, Brazil, France, and USA in Chicago.

00:27:45.789 --> 00:27:49.410
If Fornell and their other middle, whose name

00:27:49.410 --> 00:27:52.190
I can't pronounce, show up. Koshinovsky? Yeah.

00:27:52.349 --> 00:27:55.529
They could sweep that pool. I have them winning

00:27:55.529 --> 00:27:58.849
three or four of those matches, which would take

00:27:58.849 --> 00:28:02.289
them to nine or ten as well. This is why this

00:28:02.289 --> 00:28:04.690
is a tough exercise, particularly for the men.

00:28:04.890 --> 00:28:08.250
So, Slovenia also has six. So, they're playing

00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:13.630
Germany, Iran, Turkey, and Serbia in Belgrade.

00:28:14.450 --> 00:28:17.160
That's... That's a sweep. I think they're going

00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:19.579
to win all four. Yeah. Which will push them to

00:28:19.579 --> 00:28:25.000
10. Ukraine is also in Belgrade. They have five

00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:27.160
wins currently. They're playing Iran, Serbia,

00:28:27.380 --> 00:28:31.000
Turkey, and Germany. Sweep. I said three or four.

00:28:31.779 --> 00:28:33.220
I think they're going to win all four. They're

00:28:33.220 --> 00:28:35.940
going to have eight or nine. Italy also has five

00:28:35.940 --> 00:28:38.140
wins. This is nuts, you guys. They're playing

00:28:38.140 --> 00:28:41.700
in Japan against Japan, Belgium, Argentina, and

00:28:41.700 --> 00:28:44.339
Cuba. Yeah. They're winning three or four. Three

00:28:44.339 --> 00:28:46.500
or four. And I think it depends on who they bring.

00:28:46.859 --> 00:28:49.400
Which would push them to eight or nine. Like

00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.519
this is so close. I feel like this is definitely

00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.539
going to come down to points. So you need eight

00:28:55.539 --> 00:28:59.900
wins to even be in. No, that's only the top six

00:28:59.900 --> 00:29:05.180
right now. Then we've got Turkey who's playing

00:29:05.180 --> 00:29:08.500
in Belgrade. They also have five wins playing

00:29:08.500 --> 00:29:12.299
Serbia, Ukraine, Slovenia, Iran. I think they're

00:29:12.299 --> 00:29:14.829
only going to win one or two of those. Agreed.

00:29:15.390 --> 00:29:19.470
Pushing them to six or seven. Bulgaria also has

00:29:19.470 --> 00:29:22.230
five. There's so many teams with five wins. Playing

00:29:22.230 --> 00:29:26.069
in Chicago, Poland, China, USA, France. I think

00:29:26.069 --> 00:29:28.009
they're only going to win one or two of those

00:29:28.009 --> 00:29:33.609
max. Six or seven. Brazil, also five. Playing

00:29:33.609 --> 00:29:36.650
in Chicago. Chicago is a really tough location.

00:29:37.750 --> 00:29:41.150
I feel like... Belgrade is the quote -unquote

00:29:41.150 --> 00:29:47.730
easier location. And Japan only has two teams

00:29:47.730 --> 00:29:50.210
that are even in contention right now playing

00:29:50.210 --> 00:29:53.630
there in Japan and Italy. But Brazil is playing

00:29:53.630 --> 00:29:58.029
France, USA, Poland, and China in Chicago. They

00:29:58.029 --> 00:30:00.769
could potentially only win one game. I said one

00:30:00.769 --> 00:30:03.509
or two, given how they're playing. And then we've

00:30:03.509 --> 00:30:06.430
got Germany, Serbia, and France. Two of them

00:30:06.430 --> 00:30:08.819
are playing in Belgrade, one in Chicago. France

00:30:08.819 --> 00:30:11.880
might not make it. I have Japan finishing first.

00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:14.640
I think that's a safe bet. They're going home.

00:30:14.700 --> 00:30:16.940
They are up two matches on everybody else and

00:30:16.940 --> 00:30:19.720
they're playing at home. And the only team that

00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:22.119
I think might give them trouble there is Italy.

00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:24.960
Agreed. I think they're going to finish first.

00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:28.220
If we're looking at these teams with like nine

00:30:28.220 --> 00:30:33.039
or ten potential wins, that's like the USA, Poland,

00:30:33.099 --> 00:30:36.240
Slovenia group. I think USA is going to come

00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:40.119
out second. But because Slovenia is playing in

00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.440
Belgrade, I think that they will gather a lot

00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:45.799
of points. So I think Slovenia is going to bump

00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.880
into third. And I think Poland will come out

00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:53.799
fourth. I'm with you so far. Okay. Then it gets

00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.059
a little messy because there's hypotheticals.

00:30:56.059 --> 00:30:59.359
So I feel like if a team is going to get eight

00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.400
wins, they're for sure safe. I feel like seven

00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:05.579
is you're on the edge. You're on the points watch.

00:31:05.740 --> 00:31:09.170
If you get seven. you're on, yeah, points watch.

00:31:09.329 --> 00:31:12.109
You need to be winning in three or four or you're

00:31:12.109 --> 00:31:14.630
probably not going to make it. So those teams

00:31:14.630 --> 00:31:18.170
that are in the six, I have Italy in the eight,

00:31:18.210 --> 00:31:20.470
nine as well. So I think I have them as five,

00:31:20.569 --> 00:31:24.069
but the teams that are like in the six, seven

00:31:24.069 --> 00:31:27.470
area that I think are in it. Okay. So we have

00:31:27.470 --> 00:31:30.910
pretty much six spots locked up, right? Well,

00:31:30.970 --> 00:31:33.490
I feel like the top four are going to be Japan,

00:31:33.569 --> 00:31:37.559
USA, Slovenia, Poland. I'm confident Japan will

00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.839
come out one. And I think it's like, depending

00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.039
on scores of matches, USA, Slovenia, Poland are

00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.039
like a mixed bag. And then you're probably looking

00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.299
at Italy, Ukraine after that. Then you're correct.

00:31:52.700 --> 00:31:55.980
You're looking at Italy and Ukraine with a similar

00:31:55.980 --> 00:31:59.200
projected number of wins. So that's five and

00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:04.420
six. Yes. Then we have... Turkey, Bulgaria, Brazil,

00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:09.519
and Germany. No, my prediction has Turkey, Bulgaria,

00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:13.160
Brazil, and France coming out with seven wins

00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:16.000
because I think France can sneak out two or three

00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.440
from their Chicago pool because they are playing

00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.799
China. So four teams for two spots. Four teams

00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:25.900
for two spots. France is at the bottom of this

00:32:25.900 --> 00:32:28.720
whole group as far as... points go right now

00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.200
i think it's going to be brazil and bulgaria

00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:36.160
i have turkey france i don't think france is

00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.000
going to be able to win enough to make up the

00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.779
point difference it's true i wasn't really looking

00:32:41.779 --> 00:32:44.980
at like those specifics for points let me see

00:32:44.980 --> 00:32:49.759
so as far in that group france has 10 points

00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:53.779
right now brazil has 13 bulgaria and turkey i

00:32:53.779 --> 00:32:58.099
have 14 so that's basically If France wins a

00:32:58.099 --> 00:33:00.859
game in three and Brazil loses in three or four,

00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.440
that makes up that difference. Right off the

00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.420
hop. Yeah. So it's just going to come down to

00:33:06.420 --> 00:33:09.900
can France eke out one more win in the Chicago

00:33:09.900 --> 00:33:12.900
pool than Bulgaria? I think that's... And will

00:33:12.900 --> 00:33:14.960
Brazil have the similar week that they had in

00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:19.099
week two? I don't think Brazil will go one for

00:33:19.099 --> 00:33:21.980
four again in week two. They didn't look good

00:33:21.980 --> 00:33:24.700
to me. But they were on the edge, and there were

00:33:24.700 --> 00:33:27.039
a bunch of sets that just weren't executed. Like,

00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.519
I don't think that's going to happen again. Well,

00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:31.440
they were very high error in the Canadian match

00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.940
and stuff, too. I think it's going to be Brazil

00:33:33.940 --> 00:33:36.539
and Bulgaria. You think Brazil, Bulgaria? Yeah.

00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.440
I don't know. I feel like Turkey is just going

00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.359
to sneak in. I think France is going to find

00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.279
a way. I don't know. I think Brazil is going

00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.619
to be out. Okay. We'll have to wait and see what

00:33:47.619 --> 00:33:52.150
happens. But every set is going to matter. Every,

00:33:52.150 --> 00:33:55.589
absolutely every set is going to matter. I don't

00:33:55.589 --> 00:33:58.190
even, in the women, we were pretty sure of who

00:33:58.190 --> 00:34:00.349
was going to make the final four. I don't know

00:34:00.349 --> 00:34:05.690
for men because with an Italy situation in the

00:34:05.690 --> 00:34:10.250
bottom four, as we are predicting, they could

00:34:10.250 --> 00:34:12.190
not like get, that could potentially be like

00:34:12.190 --> 00:34:16.170
an Italy Poland quarter, an Italy Slovenia quarter.

00:34:16.269 --> 00:34:19.110
Like that's crazy. They're going to ruin somebody's

00:34:19.110 --> 00:34:21.110
day. And then Ukraine could ruin somebody's day

00:34:21.110 --> 00:34:23.469
because they are playing really well. Ukraine

00:34:23.469 --> 00:34:27.250
has been outstanding. I don't know, man. I don't

00:34:27.250 --> 00:34:30.429
think anybody's safe. The only thing that I can

00:34:30.429 --> 00:34:33.389
like, I don't even want to say certain of, the

00:34:33.389 --> 00:34:35.769
only thing that I'm feeling marginally confident

00:34:35.769 --> 00:34:40.210
on. Japan in the semis. Japan going into the

00:34:40.210 --> 00:34:43.250
final eight. Oh, shoot. China's going to make

00:34:43.250 --> 00:34:46.829
final eight. Forget everything. Forget everything

00:34:46.829 --> 00:34:52.280
we just said. So one of... Oh my gosh. One of

00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:56.159
Brazil, France, Bulgaria, and Turkey are going

00:34:56.159 --> 00:35:00.039
to be in because there's only one spot. One of

00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:06.079
Turkey, Brazil, Bulgaria, France. Or it could

00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.199
be Serbia or it could be Germany, but I'm just

00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:12.409
hypothetically speaking here. Okay, so the only

00:35:12.409 --> 00:35:14.750
thing that I can be relatively certain of is

00:35:14.750 --> 00:35:16.369
Japan will be in the semis because they're going

00:35:16.369 --> 00:35:19.769
to play China. Yeah. Oh, dang. If I had to pick

00:35:19.769 --> 00:35:22.949
one team. Okay, the only thing, if you look at

00:35:22.949 --> 00:35:25.949
it, though, Turkey has five wins. They're in

00:35:25.949 --> 00:35:28.869
the Belgrade pool. Yeah, but they're. Which is

00:35:28.869 --> 00:35:31.510
the weakest pool. They're playing Serbia. Oh,

00:35:31.590 --> 00:35:34.800
they actually have a hard. Yeah, I don't think

00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:36.280
they're going to beat Ukraine. I think they're

00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.400
only going to beat Iran. Maybe they'll beat Serbia.

00:35:39.420 --> 00:35:41.599
I don't think they're going to beat Slovenia

00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:44.639
or Ukraine. So they could blow it. But the other

00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:48.599
teams... Where are the wins for Bulgaria? They're

00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:50.460
going to beat China, but then you have to beat

00:35:50.460 --> 00:35:53.980
Poland, USA, or France. Well, that's what I'm

00:35:53.980 --> 00:35:55.559
saying. Or you could look at Germany. They're

00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.920
playing Slovenia, Iran, Serbia, Ukraine. They

00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.260
could maybe beat Iran, but I don't know if they're

00:36:01.260 --> 00:36:04.210
going to beat anybody else. Same with Serbia.

00:36:04.289 --> 00:36:07.710
It's like all these... We can't even answer this

00:36:07.710 --> 00:36:11.750
question. Top four. I'm just going to watch volleyball

00:36:11.750 --> 00:36:13.969
that week because it's going to be riveting.

00:36:14.650 --> 00:36:17.130
Okay. The teams that I'm certain of, I'm going

00:36:17.130 --> 00:36:20.250
to reiterate it. Japan, USA, Slovenia, Poland,

00:36:20.510 --> 00:36:26.429
Italy, Ukraine. China. China. The last one, roll

00:36:26.429 --> 00:36:29.309
the dice. I don't know. I don't know. And then

00:36:29.309 --> 00:36:31.349
after that, I'm confident Japan will make the

00:36:31.349 --> 00:36:35.239
semis. And after that, no idea. Who do you think

00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:38.860
is going to get relegated? Cuba. They still haven't

00:36:38.860 --> 00:36:41.000
won a match. But maybe they're playing Canada.

00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:45.860
Like, it's ridiculous, you guys. Cuba has zero

00:36:45.860 --> 00:36:49.840
wins. China can't be relegated. Canada has one

00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:54.820
win. Let's see who Canada plays next week. Canada

00:36:54.820 --> 00:36:59.860
has Argentina, Japan, Cuba, Belgium. Canada could

00:36:59.860 --> 00:37:06.360
be relegated. Because I feel, I mean, I don't

00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:08.039
know. They could win some of those. They could

00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:13.019
also equally lose them. Cuba is playing. Belgium,

00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:17.039
Argentina, Canada, Italy. It's going to be Cuba

00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.079
or Canada that get relegated, but I think it's

00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:23.900
Cuba. So that's that. The listener segment that

00:37:23.900 --> 00:37:25.920
we failed to answer because it's too challenging.

00:37:27.179 --> 00:37:32.860
Week two of men's VNL happened, as we said. There

00:37:32.860 --> 00:37:38.900
were a lot of swings of points of wins of you

00:37:38.900 --> 00:37:41.760
name it happening this week. I don't even know

00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.000
what is going on. You know what? Just like completely

00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.500
off topic, something that I do want to say. I

00:37:47.500 --> 00:37:49.780
understand there's a heat wave in Europe right

00:37:49.780 --> 00:37:54.139
now. In France, they were giving two extra water

00:37:54.139 --> 00:37:57.849
breaks at eight points and 16 points. And they

00:37:57.849 --> 00:38:00.730
were given five minutes between sets. You guys,

00:38:00.769 --> 00:38:04.130
I understand that this is an issue, but let me

00:38:04.130 --> 00:38:06.809
tell you how hard beach volleyball players have

00:38:06.809 --> 00:38:09.650
to beg to even have a sip of water when they

00:38:09.650 --> 00:38:13.230
cross the net in like 100 % humidity, 50 degrees

00:38:13.230 --> 00:38:17.610
Celsius on court, like on sand. I was like, come

00:38:17.610 --> 00:38:21.090
on now. You're indoor. Anyway, that's an aside.

00:38:21.289 --> 00:38:24.550
For me, this was the week of the setter. I watched

00:38:24.550 --> 00:38:27.820
a bunch of setters. who I thought were just incredible

00:38:27.820 --> 00:38:31.820
lead teams to outstanding performances. Japan

00:38:31.820 --> 00:38:36.360
setter Fukatsu was unbelievable. Watching him

00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:41.719
set and the difference in how Japan played from

00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:46.920
this year to last year was night and day what

00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:49.559
the hitters could do. He was unbelievable. He's

00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.269
the X factor for Japan. Everybody... hitting

00:38:53.269 --> 00:38:57.650
system ran. They talk about Ishikawa. They talk

00:38:57.650 --> 00:38:59.949
about Mia or they talk about all these athletes

00:38:59.949 --> 00:39:02.730
like who costs who's the glue and who costs who's

00:39:02.730 --> 00:39:05.550
the X factor of how this team is so good. Because

00:39:05.550 --> 00:39:07.210
let me tell you, none of those hitters were doing

00:39:07.210 --> 00:39:10.250
what they are doing this year at the last VNL.

00:39:10.349 --> 00:39:13.809
He is the MVP in my mind in terms of being the

00:39:13.809 --> 00:39:17.329
most valuable single person to his team. He's

00:39:17.329 --> 00:39:21.389
so good. It was amazing to watch. And I know.

00:39:21.869 --> 00:39:23.929
People are going to say, well, hitters sometimes

00:39:23.929 --> 00:39:26.590
have a bad tournament, a bad year, whatever.

00:39:26.750 --> 00:39:30.170
When all three of your hitters look that much

00:39:30.170 --> 00:39:33.929
better consistently for a whole VNL, it's the

00:39:33.929 --> 00:39:37.769
setting. He was outstanding. Unbelievable. Outstanding.

00:39:37.809 --> 00:39:40.190
You and I were talking about it. What character

00:39:40.190 --> 00:39:42.610
did he remind you of? I started calling him Master

00:39:42.610 --> 00:39:45.329
Splinter. All our 90s kids out there, please

00:39:45.329 --> 00:39:47.070
tell me you watch Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

00:39:47.070 --> 00:39:48.929
and you know who Splinter the Rat is because

00:39:48.929 --> 00:39:56.059
this guy. reminded me of him the wise yes master

00:39:56.059 --> 00:39:59.619
guiding the turtles he was so fun to watch and

00:39:59.619 --> 00:40:02.519
he made japan more fun to watch oh my gosh outstanding

00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:06.599
so he was unbelievably good and again i didn't

00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:08.639
watch all the matches but i also watched ukraine

00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:14.760
play and their setter he was also i think for

00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:19.019
me the ability to deliver in system Balls from

00:40:19.019 --> 00:40:23.039
way past the three meter line. Like teams are

00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:26.960
bombing serves and serve receives are scrambling

00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:29.699
to just keep them in the air. And these setters

00:40:29.699 --> 00:40:33.179
are delivering in system hitter balls from everywhere.

00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:35.719
It's incredible. Reversing the flow, putting

00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:38.619
hitters in place, running overloads and pipes

00:40:38.619 --> 00:40:42.699
over top. It was just. I watching the setters

00:40:42.699 --> 00:40:44.880
were the most fun. And then obviously Micah Christensen,

00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:46.880
I thought played a really good week as well.

00:40:46.940 --> 00:40:49.320
So those were the three setters. And again, I

00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.300
didn't watch all of them, but those three players

00:40:52.300 --> 00:40:54.739
were just so noticeable for me this week. You

00:40:54.739 --> 00:40:57.260
know who I was obsessed with this week? I know,

00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:01.119
but tell everyone else. Plotnitsky from Ukraine.

00:41:01.300 --> 00:41:05.320
I watched him in club, but man, he was unbelievable.

00:41:06.650 --> 00:41:08.750
And the way he was hitting those angles as a

00:41:08.750 --> 00:41:11.449
lefty on the left side, he was destroying teams,

00:41:11.590 --> 00:41:17.150
and he was so good. He is my 2026 Klevno for

00:41:17.150 --> 00:41:21.929
VNO. I think he's, wow, he is so good. Ukraine

00:41:21.929 --> 00:41:25.670
is a wagon right now. Like, okay, speaking of,

00:41:25.750 --> 00:41:30.769
the teams that were looking real good this week.

00:41:30.869 --> 00:41:33.030
Sorry, I derailed the conversation at the beginning,

00:41:33.110 --> 00:41:34.489
but give us the highlights and the overview.

00:41:34.789 --> 00:41:38.349
Ukraine. Yes. Ukraine was looking great. They

00:41:38.349 --> 00:41:42.090
were 3 -0 and then they dropped their last match.

00:41:42.349 --> 00:41:45.389
I was sad to see it. Yeah, they're 3 -0 against

00:41:45.389 --> 00:41:49.170
Brazil, Italy, Canada, and then they go and lose

00:41:49.170 --> 00:41:52.130
to Bulgaria. But last year was like their first

00:41:52.130 --> 00:41:57.170
VNL and the improvement that they have made is

00:41:57.170 --> 00:42:00.730
wild. Their right side, where did you come from,

00:42:00.769 --> 00:42:03.969
sir? Semenyuk in the middle. Semenyuk in the

00:42:03.969 --> 00:42:08.389
middle, the right side, the lefty combo on the

00:42:08.389 --> 00:42:10.530
right and the left side. That is messing people

00:42:10.530 --> 00:42:12.889
up, let me tell you. Their libero is doing really

00:42:12.889 --> 00:42:17.269
well. I think I'm obsessed with them. I'm cheering

00:42:17.269 --> 00:42:20.150
for them. I wouldn't be surprised. I know this

00:42:20.150 --> 00:42:22.769
is a bit of a dark horse pick, but if they were

00:42:22.769 --> 00:42:26.769
in the semifinals. I mean, Slovenia was a dark

00:42:26.769 --> 00:42:29.489
horse pick last year, and they were in the semifinals.

00:42:30.349 --> 00:42:34.429
And I also thought Japan and USA were looking

00:42:34.429 --> 00:42:38.989
really good. USA, it seems like they're pretty

00:42:38.989 --> 00:42:42.190
comfortable with the roster. I feel like they're

00:42:42.190 --> 00:42:47.550
looking for one more middle position. See, I

00:42:47.550 --> 00:42:50.829
really like McHenry, but he has a few things

00:42:50.829 --> 00:42:54.789
he needs to work on. He very often gets too tight.

00:42:55.340 --> 00:42:58.260
to the net when the passes are off so he can't

00:42:58.260 --> 00:43:01.500
swing at his full potential. But if he ever figures

00:43:01.500 --> 00:43:03.960
out his spacing, because when he connects, he's

00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.639
unstoppable. I think they want him in that position,

00:43:06.820 --> 00:43:08.920
but he's just not quite there yet. He definitely

00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:10.940
doesn't have the same connection with Christensen

00:43:10.940 --> 00:43:15.139
as he does with Rowan. And I feel like that is

00:43:15.139 --> 00:43:17.440
the position that's kind of up in the air right

00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:20.059
now because DeFalco was back, Christensen was

00:43:20.059 --> 00:43:22.960
back. As you were saying, as we were saying a

00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:26.150
couple weeks ago, Haynes on the right side with

00:43:26.150 --> 00:43:29.269
Hartke coming in off the bench. Whoever expected

00:43:29.269 --> 00:43:33.510
that to be as dynamic a duo as it is? Where did

00:43:33.510 --> 00:43:37.250
Haynes come from? I've never heard his name before

00:43:37.250 --> 00:43:41.969
anywhere. And he is unstoppable. He's doing really

00:43:41.969 --> 00:43:45.130
well. He's playing so well. Jendrik, I think

00:43:45.130 --> 00:43:48.010
he's great. Love him. DeFalco, I think his all

00:43:48.010 --> 00:43:51.269
-around game is just outstanding. His defense.

00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:55.460
you know, the decision -making at the net offensively,

00:43:55.460 --> 00:43:59.320
his serve. Are you kidding? Like I seeing the

00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.320
U S roster this week, I'm like, okay, I see metal

00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:05.860
potential here for them in LA. And then as we

00:44:05.860 --> 00:44:08.380
were saying with Fukatsu with Japan, they were

00:44:08.380 --> 00:44:16.340
looking so good. The number of one on half blocks.

00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:22.199
When Ishikawa runs that fade outside, none of

00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:27.519
the blockers are in the right place. And the

00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.900
sets just hang right at the antenna for him to

00:44:30.900 --> 00:44:33.860
hit the outside hand every single time. Every

00:44:33.860 --> 00:44:37.920
single time. It's wild. Wild to watch. And that

00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.719
is so frustrating as a blocker. You saw Ishikawa

00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.199
come under the net one time and he beat Micah.

00:44:43.550 --> 00:44:46.309
Christensen off the hand and Christensen like

00:44:46.309 --> 00:44:48.010
patted him on the back. It was like, I'm literally

00:44:48.010 --> 00:44:49.610
going to strangle you. Cause I can't do anything

00:44:49.610 --> 00:44:51.610
about what's happening. That's like Adam's favorite

00:44:51.610 --> 00:44:53.050
thing when stuff like that happens. He's like,

00:44:53.090 --> 00:44:55.010
Oh look, he patted him on the back. And I'm like,

00:44:55.030 --> 00:44:57.590
okay, you know, I think you guys probably could

00:44:57.590 --> 00:45:00.349
have guessed that that was the dynamic goes,

00:45:00.449 --> 00:45:04.170
but yeah, the, the teams that are like ascending

00:45:04.170 --> 00:45:08.730
for me after week two, Japan, USA, Ukraine, the

00:45:08.730 --> 00:45:11.670
teams that are just fallen into the basement

00:45:11.670 --> 00:45:17.500
for me, are Brazil and Canada. Oh, it was ugly.

00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:21.500
Brazil. What happened to you? They are making

00:45:21.500 --> 00:45:26.219
so many errors. See, the problem is when you

00:45:26.219 --> 00:45:29.940
look at their outside core, I feel like they're

00:45:29.940 --> 00:45:32.880
all the same player, the same type of player.

00:45:32.940 --> 00:45:35.400
Like who is your, I know Luke Raleigh is supposed

00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:39.440
to be your steady rock, your guy with experience,

00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:42.400
like kind of like Anderson on the U S. But he's

00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.559
still making errors. He's missing shots. He's

00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.800
giving up aces. He didn't look as consistent

00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:51.500
as I would have expected him to look. Well, this

00:45:51.500 --> 00:45:54.539
probably is a... I don't know. I don't know Brazilians'

00:45:54.659 --> 00:45:57.719
feelings about Cachapo, but this could be a very

00:45:57.719 --> 00:45:59.519
unpopular opinion. I said it last year. I'm going

00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:01.400
to say it again. I do not like him as a setter.

00:46:01.420 --> 00:46:03.579
I don't disagree with you. I think we both had

00:46:03.579 --> 00:46:06.199
that. Lucarelli is way better than Cachapo makes

00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:08.809
him look. I'm sorry. He's better than that. And

00:46:08.809 --> 00:46:11.329
then you've now got Darland starting on the right

00:46:11.329 --> 00:46:14.190
side, who is hot and cold. The play is ending

00:46:14.190 --> 00:46:17.090
one way or another when he's scoring. Okay. No

00:46:17.090 --> 00:46:19.230
continues are happening. He's either like busting

00:46:19.230 --> 00:46:21.389
a hole in the floor, scoring a point, or that

00:46:21.389 --> 00:46:23.730
ball is like in the bottom of the tape, a scud

00:46:23.730 --> 00:46:27.730
missile taking out the bleachers. Like there's

00:46:27.730 --> 00:46:32.469
no in between with him. He's very high air, but

00:46:32.469 --> 00:46:36.119
he's terminal. He's he's the play is done. Okay.

00:46:36.139 --> 00:46:39.320
When he contacts the ball, which is a little

00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:41.940
different than his brother, Alan, but Alan's

00:46:41.940 --> 00:46:44.559
not traveling. So I don't know what the deal

00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:48.699
is there. Somebody tell us. And then for me,

00:46:48.820 --> 00:46:55.059
Adriano is solid. He's steady, but you can't

00:46:55.059 --> 00:46:58.840
have two steady left sides. Like he is very much

00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.579
a hit around the block. Look for the seam type

00:47:02.579 --> 00:47:05.829
of hitter. He's not. you know, looking for hands

00:47:05.829 --> 00:47:10.050
that much. He's not, you know, crafty when he

00:47:10.050 --> 00:47:12.670
tips it's to save the player, bring it back.

00:47:12.730 --> 00:47:15.750
Like he's just very vanilla as a hitter, which

00:47:15.750 --> 00:47:19.289
I mean, when you have darling on the other side,

00:47:19.349 --> 00:47:21.429
yeah, you have to kind of balance that out, but

00:47:21.429 --> 00:47:24.849
yeah, it's, it's confusing to me. The mix isn't

00:47:24.849 --> 00:47:27.329
working there right now. No, they didn't. They

00:47:27.329 --> 00:47:29.730
did not look good. They, they were had big leads

00:47:29.730 --> 00:47:31.530
at the end of a lot of sets. They would be up.

00:47:31.980 --> 00:47:33.900
one or two points at the end of sets and then

00:47:33.900 --> 00:47:38.960
managed to lose them. It was just not clean volleyball.

00:47:39.539 --> 00:47:43.000
And then we've got Canada. So before we even

00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:46.159
talk about Canada, I have a couple questions.

00:47:47.699 --> 00:47:52.659
Like, where are their best players? Yeah, I mean,

00:47:52.659 --> 00:47:56.739
you're not like in Italy where there's not a

00:47:56.739 --> 00:47:59.039
big threat of relegation no matter who you send.

00:47:59.579 --> 00:48:03.760
Where was Marr? Where was Demyanko? Curry, I

00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.659
know, got injured. The libero. So somebody tell

00:48:06.659 --> 00:48:08.519
us if we're wrong. I was under the impression

00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:11.420
that Marr and Demyanko were fine. I haven't seen

00:48:11.420 --> 00:48:13.780
anything. I don't know anything about that. But

00:48:13.780 --> 00:48:18.119
I'm just like, now you're close to being relegated.

00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:20.820
Like when you're a team, we talked about this

00:48:20.820 --> 00:48:23.179
last week and we were talking about how VNL is

00:48:23.179 --> 00:48:25.900
structured. For teams that are not super deep.

00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:29.679
Yes, it is tiring. It is exhausting. VNL is designed

00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:35.000
to reward teams who have deep rosters, who can

00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.159
switch players in and out and still find a level

00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.659
of success. Canada is not that team. Okay. Where

00:48:40.659 --> 00:48:44.820
are those two? Well, and to me, I know they're

00:48:44.820 --> 00:48:46.809
both a little bit older. You're going to show

00:48:46.809 --> 00:48:49.929
up and play in Canada and then not travel? You

00:48:49.929 --> 00:48:51.230
have two weeks off after this. Somebody's going

00:48:51.230 --> 00:48:53.489
to be like, they're very injured. I mean, okay,

00:48:53.650 --> 00:48:56.309
if they're injured, so be it. None of this matters.

00:48:56.409 --> 00:48:58.230
But I didn't see them get injured. I didn't hear

00:48:58.230 --> 00:49:01.050
anything. It did not look good. I did a cursory

00:49:01.050 --> 00:49:03.489
kind of search to see if I could see anything.

00:49:03.690 --> 00:49:07.550
But it's just, it's not the mentality you need

00:49:07.550 --> 00:49:11.329
to win. I'm sorry. You just can't do that. On

00:49:11.329 --> 00:49:13.289
an aside, do you want to know who the star for

00:49:13.289 --> 00:49:16.590
Canada is for me? Who is it? Jackson, how? He's

00:49:16.590 --> 00:49:20.809
good. He's solid. That kid is playing really

00:49:20.809 --> 00:49:22.829
well. And he's undersized. And he's an undersized

00:49:22.829 --> 00:49:27.429
middle. He is it for me, for Canada. He's doing

00:49:27.429 --> 00:49:29.170
really well. He's consistent. You know who else

00:49:29.170 --> 00:49:33.409
is playing well? Katrinsky. Yeah, he is. Yeah,

00:49:33.610 --> 00:49:37.409
he is. But, like, I'm really confused, honestly,

00:49:37.590 --> 00:49:41.269
about that decision. They did not look good this

00:49:41.269 --> 00:49:44.900
week. They couldn't. They couldn't buy a win.

00:49:45.019 --> 00:49:48.320
They almost pulled it off against Brazil. They

00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:51.579
had match point. Then lost three points in a

00:49:51.579 --> 00:49:54.860
row and the match was over. So I just don't understand

00:49:54.860 --> 00:49:58.760
that decision making. And if they're both like

00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:01.099
bring one of them. Okay, you're going to come

00:50:01.099 --> 00:50:03.000
here and then you're going to go to week three.

00:50:03.219 --> 00:50:05.460
But you at least if they're injured, bring them

00:50:05.460 --> 00:50:08.739
and like maybe have them as the reserve player

00:50:08.739 --> 00:50:12.380
for. A match. Or just like, not even a reserve

00:50:12.380 --> 00:50:15.079
player. Have them on the bench. And if you see

00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:18.340
things going sideways, be like, warm it up. Here

00:50:18.340 --> 00:50:21.800
we go. Because they're inexperienced all the

00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:23.659
way around. Dan Lewis is an inexperienced head

00:50:23.659 --> 00:50:26.340
coach. His staff is young and inexperienced.

00:50:26.340 --> 00:50:29.480
The team, they looked good in Canada. They looked

00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:32.199
like they had a chance to, I'm not saying compete

00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:33.820
at the top. I mean, they still only had one win

00:50:33.820 --> 00:50:36.420
in Canada. I understand that, but that was...

00:50:37.429 --> 00:50:40.010
And they managed to lose in five a lot. I understand

00:50:40.010 --> 00:50:42.849
that. But we said when we watched them play,

00:50:42.929 --> 00:50:45.650
this could be the beginning of something. They're

00:50:45.650 --> 00:50:47.489
doing things well. They did look better than

00:50:47.489 --> 00:50:50.449
they did last year. They looked better than we

00:50:50.449 --> 00:50:52.849
had seen them before. And you've thrown that

00:50:52.849 --> 00:50:55.929
all away now. You're literally taking China out.

00:50:55.969 --> 00:50:58.230
You're basically in second last place right now.

00:50:58.530 --> 00:51:03.170
So they looked terrible to me. Cuba, they're

00:51:03.170 --> 00:51:06.250
struggling. If that starting group of athletes

00:51:06.250 --> 00:51:08.130
decides they're actually going to lace up their

00:51:08.130 --> 00:51:11.190
shoes and get after it. It's not like they're

00:51:11.190 --> 00:51:14.789
trying to lose. I understand that. But we know

00:51:14.789 --> 00:51:17.690
that that Cuba team plays with a little swagger

00:51:17.690 --> 00:51:20.670
and they need a little, I don't even know what

00:51:20.670 --> 00:51:24.250
the word is. But if that team manages to show

00:51:24.250 --> 00:51:26.949
up, they will win some matches. They're going

00:51:26.949 --> 00:51:29.949
from final eight last year to literally can't

00:51:29.949 --> 00:51:33.619
get a win this year. Agreed. So, I mean, that's

00:51:33.619 --> 00:51:37.000
rough. I do think it's worth noting that Poland

00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.699
and Italy, Italy hasn't even sent their full

00:51:39.699 --> 00:51:42.440
roster yet. Like anybody. Gianelli hasn't shown

00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:48.579
up. Romina. Micheletto. Micheletto. Lavia. The

00:51:48.579 --> 00:51:51.320
middle. Like, you name it. They're playing with

00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:53.639
their second string. Okay? We're looking at the

00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:57.400
Italian women reincarnated here with their decision

00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:01.380
making. And then Poland still missing Kochanowski,

00:52:01.659 --> 00:52:04.780
missing Fornal, missing Semenyuk, like some big

00:52:04.780 --> 00:52:07.340
pieces. Well, I'm curious if they will travel

00:52:07.340 --> 00:52:09.679
in week three. I'm assuming so. Kind of get them

00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:13.119
geared up to play the final eight. Yeah. I would

00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.059
be shocked if we didn't see, because you even

00:52:15.059 --> 00:52:17.440
have an extra week now as well. Yeah. I mean,

00:52:17.460 --> 00:52:19.559
I just felt like it was worth noting that those

00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:22.860
two teams hadn't really sent. Poland was more

00:52:22.860 --> 00:52:26.679
complete than Italy was, but. The other thing.

00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.280
We were talking about this, and I'm curious if

00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:31.900
anyone else can answer because I know there's

00:52:31.900 --> 00:52:35.079
a lot of Japanese fans out there. What is the

00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:38.800
depth like on the Japanese team in the system?

00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:41.440
Are there other players coming? Because it seems

00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:47.019
like if Ishikawa, Ran, and Miura are not on the

00:52:47.019 --> 00:52:51.320
floor. Fukatsu. Well, Fukatsu is a given based

00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:53.099
off what we talked about before, but those three

00:52:53.099 --> 00:52:55.340
hitters. Who do they have coming up? Yeah, is

00:52:55.340 --> 00:52:58.550
there anybody? Or is this going to be, are we

00:52:58.550 --> 00:53:00.789
going to the dark times for Japan once these

00:53:00.789 --> 00:53:04.329
three are done? So I'm curious for those who

00:53:04.329 --> 00:53:06.949
pay attention to the Japanese league, who know

00:53:06.949 --> 00:53:10.670
a little bit more, let us know what the future

00:53:10.670 --> 00:53:12.630
looks like for Japan. Because those three are

00:53:12.630 --> 00:53:15.750
outstanding when they're setters, giving them

00:53:15.750 --> 00:53:18.829
the ball like that. I've enjoyed watching men's.

00:53:19.650 --> 00:53:24.059
A lot. In recent, I historically in my life have

00:53:24.059 --> 00:53:27.659
not been a men's volleyball fan. Fair. I think

00:53:27.659 --> 00:53:31.099
a lot of people feel that way. I will say the

00:53:31.099 --> 00:53:35.119
overall skill level, particularly with ball control

00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:38.559
and defense, has improved worldwide immensely.

00:53:39.690 --> 00:53:41.690
Even though they do still miss a ton of serves.

00:53:41.869 --> 00:53:45.510
It's not nearly as many as it used to be. The

00:53:45.510 --> 00:53:48.949
quality of play is so much higher than it used

00:53:48.949 --> 00:53:52.610
to be. I am loving it so much. There are actually

00:53:52.610 --> 00:53:55.949
really entertaining rallies. The most entertaining

00:53:55.949 --> 00:54:00.369
matches for me this week were Japan -USA, Japan

00:54:00.369 --> 00:54:04.110
-France, and honestly, Canada -Brazil was pretty

00:54:04.110 --> 00:54:07.110
good. Not the same excitement level from start

00:54:07.110 --> 00:54:12.940
to finish as the... japan usa japan france but

00:54:12.940 --> 00:54:17.280
as far as like coming down to the wire i i would

00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.539
agree with that i have enjoyed the men's vnl

00:54:19.539 --> 00:54:22.980
thus far more than the women's which is unusual

00:54:22.980 --> 00:54:26.739
i would say i would never have said that in the

00:54:26.739 --> 00:54:31.539
past but yeah i as you saw from our last segment

00:54:31.539 --> 00:54:34.739
we have no clue how this is going to shake out

00:54:34.739 --> 00:54:39.610
so week three Could be interesting. It will be

00:54:39.610 --> 00:54:42.750
interesting. There'll be at least five surprises.

00:54:43.630 --> 00:54:46.389
At least. And China's just chilling. They're

00:54:46.389 --> 00:54:48.210
like, yeah, we're good. We're going to be eight

00:54:48.210 --> 00:54:50.230
no matter what. Their coach has given us the

00:54:50.230 --> 00:54:54.449
most to talk about. It is time for listener questions,

00:54:54.769 --> 00:54:58.489
everybody. So let's dive in. Question one. For

00:54:58.489 --> 00:55:02.110
talented D1 volleyball athletes, and this person

00:55:02.110 --> 00:55:06.170
listed the examples of Olivia Babcock, Andy Jackson,

00:55:06.650 --> 00:55:09.630
Bergen Riley, Tori Stafford, etc. Do you think

00:55:09.630 --> 00:55:12.570
it would be a mistake for them to stay a fifth

00:55:12.570 --> 00:55:15.630
year when they could go pro and improve more

00:55:15.630 --> 00:55:18.210
from the college game? I know this has already

00:55:18.210 --> 00:55:20.730
happened with the extra year of COVID eligibility,

00:55:20.849 --> 00:55:23.690
but do you think it is harmful to an athlete's

00:55:23.690 --> 00:55:26.349
aspiring professional goals to stay in the college

00:55:26.349 --> 00:55:31.550
game for one more year? My instinct is no. I

00:55:31.550 --> 00:55:35.349
think you hit your peak so late in volleyball,

00:55:35.630 --> 00:55:40.309
the ability to make money in college is... They'll

00:55:40.309 --> 00:55:42.349
make way more money in college than they will

00:55:42.349 --> 00:55:46.349
in their first year of pro. And college is...

00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:49.019
It's a great atmosphere. It's a great environment.

00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.199
I don't think there's any real harm in enjoying

00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:56.239
another year if that's what you want to do. Like

00:55:56.239 --> 00:56:00.860
I don't see it being this massive hit to your

00:56:00.860 --> 00:56:04.500
future potential. My first instinct when I heard

00:56:04.500 --> 00:56:07.920
this question was the same. If the idea behind

00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.840
going pro, it's like what is your priority? Is

00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:13.780
your priority going pro to like improve a whole

00:56:13.780 --> 00:56:16.039
lot? Maybe make an Olympic roster or something.

00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:19.260
I don't know. Or is it to make money? If it's

00:56:19.260 --> 00:56:21.980
to make money, which I'm assuming would be the

00:56:21.980 --> 00:56:25.199
case for a lot of people, staying the fifth year

00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:28.079
makes so much sense. Do you have an opportunity

00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:31.219
to go be on the bench at Canigliano? Or are you

00:56:31.219 --> 00:56:34.199
going to be on the bench at Love Madison? There

00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:38.380
are certain opportunities which might be. too

00:56:38.380 --> 00:56:40.960
good to pass up and I'm not specifically picking

00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:44.019
on Madison it's just an example it's just an

00:56:44.019 --> 00:56:47.360
example you just you can set yourself up to make

00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:51.099
other career choices later like going to be on

00:56:51.099 --> 00:56:53.360
the bench at a really good team for a lower salary

00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:55.960
you know then starting somewhere else it just

00:56:55.960 --> 00:57:00.679
I don't see it in most scenarios being that much

00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:02.340
different because you're still going to get a

00:57:02.340 --> 00:57:04.199
chance to train with the national team to be

00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.699
in the gyms in the summer a two team, yada, yada,

00:57:07.699 --> 00:57:10.300
yada. So I, I think, I think a lot of people

00:57:10.300 --> 00:57:12.559
will stay, particularly the ones that are just

00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:17.199
killing it in NIL. Yeah. Namely a lot of Nebraska

00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:22.019
athletes. However, it just part B another question,

00:57:22.059 --> 00:57:25.219
which I feel like attaches to this one was, I'm

00:57:25.219 --> 00:57:28.079
curious your thoughts about this and how it affects

00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:32.679
the U S pro leagues, the national team. and coach

00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:35.679
roster construction because there doesn't seem

00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:37.840
to be any indication that they're pausing the

00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:41.420
18 -person roster limit. So that adds an interesting

00:57:41.420 --> 00:57:45.659
twist because now, are you recruiting somebody

00:57:45.659 --> 00:57:48.400
for five years? Who are you going to recruit?

00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:52.579
You can't carry, you have athletes eligible for

00:57:52.579 --> 00:57:55.300
five years, but an 18 -person roster, recruiting

00:57:55.300 --> 00:57:56.960
classes are going to get a lot smaller. It's

00:57:56.960 --> 00:57:59.530
going to affect high school kids. This is going

00:57:59.530 --> 00:58:01.909
to have a huge ripple effect. Well, and let's

00:58:01.909 --> 00:58:04.010
just clarify. We're talking about the new NCAA

00:58:04.010 --> 00:58:07.869
eligibility rules. Yes. I should have said that

00:58:07.869 --> 00:58:10.329
at the very beginning. Sorry. This question pertains

00:58:10.329 --> 00:58:13.389
to the new NCAA rules that we were talking about

00:58:13.389 --> 00:58:17.010
earlier in the episode. That's where this question

00:58:17.010 --> 00:58:19.909
is coming from. How will it affect the U .S.

00:58:19.929 --> 00:58:22.489
Pro Leagues? I don't think it will. No, they're

00:58:22.489 --> 00:58:24.309
already bringing in lots of foreigners. You'll

00:58:24.309 --> 00:58:27.070
get athletes you thought you might get next year.

00:58:27.110 --> 00:58:29.960
You'll get... In two years. It'll just push everything

00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:31.900
back a little bit. I don't think it will affect

00:58:31.900 --> 00:58:34.199
that whatsoever. What do you think about national

00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:36.579
team? I don't think it'll really affect national

00:58:36.579 --> 00:58:38.380
team either. You know why? Because you can still

00:58:38.380 --> 00:58:42.059
go and play in the summer if you want to. Yeah,

00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.219
other than they will have one less year exposed

00:58:45.219 --> 00:58:48.219
to international athletes, depending on what

00:58:48.219 --> 00:58:52.460
league they decide to play for. But the roster

00:58:52.460 --> 00:58:55.739
construction for college coaches, this becomes

00:58:55.739 --> 00:58:58.539
a lot more complicated. A hundred percent. Because

00:58:58.539 --> 00:59:00.539
is there a guarantee that people are going to

00:59:00.539 --> 00:59:04.239
stay and like do grad school after their undergrad

00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:07.179
is done? No, there's no guarantee. You're going

00:59:07.179 --> 00:59:09.500
to see some coaches be ruthless, be like, you

00:59:09.500 --> 00:59:12.420
don't have a scholarship anymore. You're moving

00:59:12.420 --> 00:59:15.320
on depending on the caliber. If we thought the

00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:18.260
transfer portal was wild. No. Yeah. We might

00:59:18.260 --> 00:59:21.739
see athletes forced out like that aren't absolute

00:59:21.739 --> 00:59:24.900
superstars. Agreed. Because they'll want to hold

00:59:24.900 --> 00:59:27.639
on to their superstars. And if you're just. You

00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:29.719
can't pass up on those blue chip recruits if

00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:32.719
you have them. Yeah. If you're not super instrumental

00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:36.559
to the team success on court. I think everybody

00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:38.719
on a team is instrumental to success. Like I've

00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:41.480
talked about this before. But if you're not putting

00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:44.739
up huge numbers or doing something really special.

00:59:45.179 --> 00:59:47.559
Or if the recruit coming in projects to be better

00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:49.960
than you. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It's going to be

00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:52.139
wild. It's going to be wild. Okay, question two.

00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:55.099
Can you explain the new substitutions in VNL?

00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:57.699
Now they have eight instead of six, but how do

00:59:57.699 --> 01:00:00.940
they count them? How does a double substitution

01:00:00.940 --> 01:00:04.579
affect this? Basically, everything stays the

01:00:04.579 --> 01:00:09.760
same as this is pertaining to VNL now in the

01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:12.320
international game. Everything stays the same

01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:16.579
except you have two more substitutions. So you're

01:00:16.579 --> 01:00:19.110
allowed to go in. If you're starting on the bench,

01:00:19.190 --> 01:00:21.170
you can enter the court and then come off the

01:00:21.170 --> 01:00:24.090
court and then you're done for the set. You can't

01:00:24.090 --> 01:00:26.150
go in and out like you can in the college game.

01:00:26.309 --> 01:00:29.090
A double substitution, if you're doing a double

01:00:29.090 --> 01:00:32.590
sub with two players going in and then out, that

01:00:32.590 --> 01:00:36.030
uses four subs. In the past, you would only be

01:00:36.030 --> 01:00:38.929
able to basically use another sub, like a serving

01:00:38.929 --> 01:00:43.030
sub or one blocking sub. But now you have the

01:00:43.030 --> 01:00:46.389
opportunity to use... two athletes to go in and

01:00:46.389 --> 01:00:49.489
out. It affects things. It's like not a small

01:00:49.489 --> 01:00:52.750
rule change, but it's also not like 15 subs like

01:00:52.750 --> 01:00:56.929
the NCAA. No, it's a sneaky limit though, because

01:00:56.929 --> 01:01:00.429
it allows you to make one or two more moves at

01:01:00.429 --> 01:01:03.889
critical times in matches for like a serving

01:01:03.889 --> 01:01:06.530
and a blocking sub when you're coming around.

01:01:06.590 --> 01:01:09.389
I really like it because a lot of teams are doing

01:01:09.389 --> 01:01:11.250
the double sub and then you've blown through.

01:01:11.900 --> 01:01:15.159
like most of what you can do. So I'm a fan of

01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:17.320
the eight subs. I like it. I think it allows

01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:20.360
the coach to have a little more strategic input

01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.860
and read the game and make player substitution.

01:01:22.980 --> 01:01:25.659
So I'm personally a fan. Okay. Question three,

01:01:25.699 --> 01:01:27.820
you talk a lot about how beneficial it is on

01:01:27.820 --> 01:01:29.599
the women's side for players to play in the best

01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.420
leagues, like playing in Italy versus love, even

01:01:32.420 --> 01:01:34.480
if it means sitting on the bench, would you say

01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:37.460
the same is true for men? I know there aren't

01:01:37.460 --> 01:01:39.260
the same kind of leagues in North America on

01:01:39.260 --> 01:01:41.460
the men's side, but is there more value for men

01:01:41.460 --> 01:01:44.199
in playing on a top team in a top league on the

01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:47.019
bench versus being a starter in a lower league?

01:01:47.539 --> 01:01:50.579
How does the parity in the men's game affect

01:01:50.579 --> 01:01:54.280
this? Listen, you don't really get better playing

01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:58.099
matches. You play one match a week, maybe two.

01:01:58.179 --> 01:02:01.159
You spend the majority of your time in a training

01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:04.699
environment. And quite frankly, it doesn't necessarily...

01:02:05.130 --> 01:02:07.929
matter what the level of the team is it matters

01:02:07.929 --> 01:02:10.389
what the level of the training environment is

01:02:10.389 --> 01:02:12.750
and what I mean by that is what kind of coaching

01:02:12.750 --> 01:02:14.730
are you getting are you being put in positions

01:02:14.730 --> 01:02:17.250
where you're not just doing something mindlessly

01:02:17.250 --> 01:02:19.329
but you're given the opportunity to make decisions

01:02:19.329 --> 01:02:22.130
to try and be better to execute specific skills

01:02:22.130 --> 01:02:25.170
yes you want to be competing with the best players

01:02:25.170 --> 01:02:28.070
day in and day out that does make a huge difference

01:02:28.070 --> 01:02:31.969
but all of those things come into play when you

01:02:31.969 --> 01:02:34.489
talk about getting better. So yes, putting yourself

01:02:34.489 --> 01:02:36.969
in the best training environment, which usually

01:02:36.969 --> 01:02:41.590
means the best players on your team, is the best

01:02:41.590 --> 01:02:45.090
way to get better, period. Men, women, doesn't

01:02:45.090 --> 01:02:47.070
matter what sport it is. I honestly think it's

01:02:47.070 --> 01:02:49.289
less critical than it is on the women's side

01:02:49.289 --> 01:02:52.269
though. So like, for example, on the women's

01:02:52.269 --> 01:02:54.670
side, when you look at Champions League quarterfinals,

01:02:54.869 --> 01:02:59.099
you're looking at basically four... Turkish teams,

01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:01.360
three Italian teams, and a Polish team, for example.

01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:03.460
When you look at the quarterfinals in a men's

01:03:03.460 --> 01:03:05.920
Champions League, you've got a couple Italians,

01:03:06.380 --> 01:03:09.960
you've got a couple Polish teams, and then you've

01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:13.179
got a Turkish team, maybe a Greek team, a German

01:03:13.179 --> 01:03:17.619
team, you name it, a French team. This year,

01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:21.539
there was a Spanish team. There is more parity

01:03:21.539 --> 01:03:25.920
across the men's game, and the leagues aren't

01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:30.949
quite so... stacked heavily on one side of the

01:03:30.949 --> 01:03:35.250
spectrum. You do see talent dispersed a little

01:03:35.250 --> 01:03:38.010
more equally, I would say in the men's game,

01:03:38.170 --> 01:03:41.110
as opposed to just like really overly loading,

01:03:41.230 --> 01:03:43.670
like two, two and a half leagues, like you see

01:03:43.670 --> 01:03:47.389
in the women's side. So I will take a slightly

01:03:47.389 --> 01:03:50.130
different stance and say that it's not as critical

01:03:50.130 --> 01:03:54.699
on the men's side. Okay. Question four. We, when

01:03:54.699 --> 01:03:56.500
watching, we noticed a stark difference in the

01:03:56.500 --> 01:03:58.860
number of triple blocks between men and women.

01:03:58.980 --> 01:04:02.440
Why is that? And when the women do commit to

01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.340
the triple block, what circumstances enable it?

01:04:05.780 --> 01:04:08.179
I mean, men are out of system more often than

01:04:08.179 --> 01:04:10.989
women because A, they're worse passers. Force

01:04:10.989 --> 01:04:13.469
passers A or the serving is just ridiculous.

01:04:14.110 --> 01:04:16.369
That's what I was going to... I was making fun

01:04:16.369 --> 01:04:18.929
of us as a gender. In general, we pass worse

01:04:18.929 --> 01:04:21.070
than the women, I would say. The serving is much

01:04:21.070 --> 01:04:23.230
more difficult. The heavy spin serves. You see

01:04:23.230 --> 01:04:27.190
a lot of the best spin servers. You're basically

01:04:27.190 --> 01:04:29.190
trying to dig that ball high in the middle of

01:04:29.190 --> 01:04:31.110
the court. And when that happens, everybody knows

01:04:31.110 --> 01:04:33.730
where the ball is going. So it makes it easier

01:04:33.730 --> 01:04:36.989
to get outside and put a triple block up. There's

01:04:36.989 --> 01:04:39.349
a bunch of other nuances around it, but that

01:04:39.349 --> 01:04:42.599
is... the majority of the reason. Yeah, that's

01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:46.960
for sure the biggest reason. For women, you see

01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:50.500
it happen when the play really breaks down, similarly

01:04:50.500 --> 01:04:53.980
to when a man is going up and bombing a spin

01:04:53.980 --> 01:04:55.900
serve and the serve receivers are just trying

01:04:55.900 --> 01:04:57.760
to get a high middle of the court. If somebody

01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:02.019
gets a dig, high middle of the court, you already

01:05:02.019 --> 01:05:07.320
know who the attack options are. It can be clear

01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:10.429
where the ball is going. It happens much less

01:05:10.429 --> 01:05:13.190
frequently in the women's game because of the

01:05:13.190 --> 01:05:14.889
ball control. The women aren't hitting the ball

01:05:14.889 --> 01:05:17.429
as hard, so the defensive plays are a little

01:05:17.429 --> 01:05:20.789
more controlled. In general, the women are running.

01:05:21.050 --> 01:05:24.670
The men are running a fast offense, but I would

01:05:24.670 --> 01:05:26.909
say across the board in the women's game, every

01:05:26.909 --> 01:05:30.989
team is running pretty fast. The one other thing

01:05:30.989 --> 01:05:34.150
I will say is strategically, tips in the men's

01:05:34.150 --> 01:05:36.909
game score less frequently. Like the defenders

01:05:36.909 --> 01:05:40.110
are fast enough generally to cover the same amount

01:05:40.110 --> 01:05:43.550
of court. So when you bring that outside blocker

01:05:43.550 --> 01:05:45.809
in, the three defenders, if they read a tip,

01:05:45.929 --> 01:05:49.329
can play defense and dig that. Whereas if the

01:05:49.329 --> 01:05:51.590
men are hitting super sharp angles, that blocker

01:05:51.590 --> 01:05:54.150
is more effective in the triple. Whereas on the

01:05:54.150 --> 01:05:57.289
women's side, there are less outside hitters

01:05:57.289 --> 01:06:00.809
who can just blow up a super sharp angle. And

01:06:00.809 --> 01:06:03.449
so... stepping back and playing defense might

01:06:03.449 --> 01:06:06.329
actually give you a better option or a better

01:06:06.329 --> 01:06:08.730
chance to dig the ball and you can cover the

01:06:08.730 --> 01:06:11.969
tips better. Okay, question five. What do you

01:06:11.969 --> 01:06:14.389
think is the ideal rotation for the Brazilian

01:06:14.389 --> 01:06:17.510
team? And I am assuming this question was for

01:06:17.510 --> 01:06:20.989
the women. And I think specifically around who

01:06:20.989 --> 01:06:24.369
should play right side. Okay, so if Senga B comes

01:06:24.369 --> 01:06:29.590
back, we know she's injured, but Gabi, Anna Christina,

01:06:29.710 --> 01:06:35.039
and... We're assuming the three of them will

01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:36.820
be on the court. So I think the question is kind

01:06:36.820 --> 01:06:40.639
of like, which one is going to be on the right

01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:42.079
side? Because you're not going to change your

01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.539
middles. McCrease and Roberta are what they are.

01:06:46.420 --> 01:06:48.880
And Gabby is going to play on the left, period.

01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:52.000
Yeah. I think you keep Anna Christina on the

01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:55.360
left and you put Bergman on the right. I think

01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:59.260
Anna Christina is a big player. She's what, like

01:06:59.260 --> 01:07:04.199
6 '5"? or something like that a small like bergman's

01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:06.559
not small but a smaller player i feel like has

01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:10.639
an easier time adapting to different positions

01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:13.400
because of the speed of set they're generally

01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.079
a little more dynamic i think her feet to ball

01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:18.239
are better than anna christina's yeah bergman's

01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:20.119
feet to ball is a little bit better she has a

01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:22.400
little bit of a faster arm swing Anna -Christina

01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:25.440
hits incredible angles from the left side. She

01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:27.699
hits a heavy ball. She's able to also use the

01:07:27.699 --> 01:07:30.460
block. She's creative. You don't want to lose

01:07:30.460 --> 01:07:34.559
her size either blocking other teams' right -side

01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:38.519
attackers. So I think you keep Anna -Christina

01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:41.960
on the left and Bergman on the right. I agree

01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.340
with your reasoning 100%. I think you're going

01:07:45.340 --> 01:07:48.400
to lose some efficiency regardless of who you

01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:54.139
put on that side, less from having Bergman out

01:07:54.139 --> 01:07:56.280
there. And I think the upside of Anna Christina,

01:07:56.519 --> 01:07:59.159
like you said, from a blocking standpoint as

01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:03.579
well, is more effective on the left. Okay, question

01:08:03.579 --> 01:08:06.480
six. Does the political situation of countries

01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:09.739
ever affect performance? I believe this question

01:08:09.739 --> 01:08:15.179
was referencing Iran and the U .S. So I want

01:08:15.179 --> 01:08:19.619
to say first, this is a very hard question to

01:08:19.619 --> 01:08:24.079
answer. I think the answer changes probably greatly

01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:27.539
if you have or have not been in a situation like

01:08:27.539 --> 01:08:30.000
this and experienced it on either side, which

01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:33.100
neither of us have. Like we're Canadian. We are

01:08:33.100 --> 01:08:35.560
going to try and answer this question, understanding

01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:39.760
that it is sensitive and that we have no experience

01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:42.859
in this regard. Yeah. Yeah. I almost didn't even

01:08:42.859 --> 01:08:44.939
want to put this question in because I'm like,

01:08:45.020 --> 01:08:49.319
there's no way to like adequately answer this

01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:52.060
for us. Or I think for anybody because you can't

01:08:52.060 --> 01:08:54.659
really understand anybody's personal experience,

01:08:55.460 --> 01:09:00.600
political views, etc. Personally, I think and

01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:05.020
my assumption would be that I think the fan bases

01:09:05.020 --> 01:09:07.699
are probably more affected by the matchups than

01:09:07.699 --> 01:09:10.579
the athletes themselves. Like these athletes

01:09:10.579 --> 01:09:17.119
are professionals. Some may have, there are probably

01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:20.949
differing political views within. each team among

01:09:20.949 --> 01:09:26.170
players. And, you know, you see some athletes

01:09:26.170 --> 01:09:29.390
kind of taking the stand as we are seeing recently

01:09:29.390 --> 01:09:31.909
with like Jordan Thompson and Micah Hancock and

01:09:31.909 --> 01:09:35.829
in their national anthem situation. But I think

01:09:35.829 --> 01:09:38.270
these athletes are professionals. They understand

01:09:38.270 --> 01:09:41.770
there's obviously a lot of pride in representing

01:09:41.770 --> 01:09:44.829
their countries, but they, I think the understanding

01:09:44.829 --> 01:09:49.609
is that they are there to play volleyball. And

01:09:49.609 --> 01:09:52.550
that's that. I can't say, and that's that, but

01:09:52.550 --> 01:09:55.649
like. So there's two other things I would add

01:09:55.649 --> 01:09:59.250
is that one at this level, most of the athletes

01:09:59.250 --> 01:10:01.729
also know each other. If you don't know each

01:10:01.729 --> 01:10:04.149
other personally, like you've had enough interactions

01:10:04.149 --> 01:10:07.109
that there's a level of respect. Like you're

01:10:07.109 --> 01:10:09.250
not seeing somebody for the first time. So I

01:10:09.250 --> 01:10:12.829
think that helps kind of keep things neutral.

01:10:13.189 --> 01:10:16.369
And I agree what you're saying. It's more the

01:10:16.369 --> 01:10:19.500
fans. Like if two teams. play in a neutral location,

01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:23.260
probably nothing is going to really happen or

01:10:23.260 --> 01:10:26.239
be said if there's unrest politically. But let's

01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:28.960
take, for example, the U .S. and Canada played

01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:32.359
in Canada and there's a little... Yeah, there's

01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:36.319
already tension with what's going on and being

01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:38.779
said and everything. The fans were giving it

01:10:38.779 --> 01:10:41.829
to the American players and that... elevated

01:10:41.829 --> 01:10:44.869
the level of intensity of the match but I think

01:10:44.869 --> 01:10:47.649
that came more from the fans than from the players

01:10:47.649 --> 01:10:50.250
so I think there are a couple things you know

01:10:50.250 --> 01:10:52.470
that are dependent and I also think that having

01:10:52.470 --> 01:10:56.130
a group of people versus it being a single like

01:10:56.130 --> 01:11:00.489
an individual sport helps kind of if somebody's

01:11:00.489 --> 01:11:03.350
worked up about it you have teammates in a support

01:11:03.350 --> 01:11:05.909
system around that can kind of help you stay

01:11:05.909 --> 01:11:08.010
in check please don't hate us for this answer

01:11:08.010 --> 01:11:11.479
we tried our best it was really tough Hopefully

01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:13.300
we were able to articulate our thoughts in a

01:11:13.300 --> 01:11:17.260
coherent way. Okay, question seven. Compare playing

01:11:17.260 --> 01:11:20.380
left side versus right side from a movement or

01:11:20.380 --> 01:11:23.579
technical point of view. This is inspired by

01:11:23.579 --> 01:11:27.960
Anthropova. Okay, so I've made the switch myself.

01:11:27.979 --> 01:11:31.140
I attempted it too. I had to play left side one

01:11:31.140 --> 01:11:35.979
year of pro. I would rather forget it. So I think

01:11:35.979 --> 01:11:39.890
when we talk about this, the biggest... difference

01:11:39.890 --> 01:11:44.390
is the ball has to travel across your body on

01:11:44.390 --> 01:11:49.369
one side and not on the other that for me causes

01:11:49.369 --> 01:11:53.149
a whole lot of vision issues like I noticed when

01:11:53.149 --> 01:11:55.590
I moved from the right side to the left side

01:11:55.590 --> 01:11:58.750
I saw the court just innately so much better

01:11:58.750 --> 01:12:01.449
than I did from the right side so that was one

01:12:01.449 --> 01:12:05.189
huge difference I noticed and then again technically

01:12:05.189 --> 01:12:07.609
where you're cutting the ball off to make your

01:12:07.609 --> 01:12:11.069
different swings I noticed the same thing. I

01:12:11.069 --> 01:12:14.670
found it much more difficult to hit, particularly

01:12:14.670 --> 01:12:17.430
out of system on the left side because I'm left

01:12:17.430 --> 01:12:20.470
-handed. Just the ball coming over my shoulder.

01:12:20.510 --> 01:12:22.609
And you're like trying to figure out the appropriate

01:12:22.609 --> 01:12:25.229
approach angle to like give yourself maximal

01:12:25.229 --> 01:12:29.789
vision. So that's challenging. But for me, I

01:12:29.789 --> 01:12:34.069
also noticed a big difference blocking. The blocking

01:12:34.069 --> 01:12:37.949
responsibilities and... how you help and which

01:12:37.949 --> 01:12:41.670
sets you're helping on differ from right side

01:12:41.670 --> 01:12:44.010
to left side. So on the right side, you're generally

01:12:44.010 --> 01:12:48.289
helping block the pipe, the gap set or the 31

01:12:48.289 --> 01:12:50.170
for the middle, and then everything for the left

01:12:50.170 --> 01:12:53.250
side. And then, or if you're a left side blocker,

01:12:53.250 --> 01:12:56.470
you're helping everything that the middle is

01:12:56.470 --> 01:12:59.670
hitting aside from the gap set and then right

01:12:59.670 --> 01:13:05.720
side. So it's, you have to be I found it more

01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:08.359
difficult to block on the left side, maybe because

01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:10.399
I just did right side my whole life and I was

01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:12.619
just used to it. Well, your hand position changes,

01:13:12.699 --> 01:13:14.539
right? Your outside hand is different where you're

01:13:14.539 --> 01:13:17.100
holding your inside hand, how you rotate to push

01:13:17.100 --> 01:13:18.939
the ball back into the court when you're getting,

01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:21.239
like when you're making contact on the ball,

01:13:21.260 --> 01:13:25.300
like all of it is mirrored. So it takes a while

01:13:25.300 --> 01:13:27.460
to get used to it again. Yeah. And then like

01:13:27.460 --> 01:13:29.420
on the right side, you're blocking the left side.

01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:31.560
So you're like making sure that you're not getting

01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:34.399
used down the line with your right hand and you're

01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:36.560
dropping your left hand into the seam. But then

01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:38.779
it's the opposite on the other side. So it's

01:13:38.779 --> 01:13:41.939
just like whatever you're ingrained to do, your

01:13:41.939 --> 01:13:47.020
body just knows through countless reps and muscle

01:13:47.020 --> 01:13:51.470
memory. And then to switch it is a trip. I wish

01:13:51.470 --> 01:13:53.569
I never had to play left side. Well, and the

01:13:53.569 --> 01:13:55.210
one other thing I will say, and this is mostly

01:13:55.210 --> 01:13:58.090
because we saw it with Entropova, is the timing

01:13:58.090 --> 01:13:59.970
of your approach is different when you pass,

01:14:00.170 --> 01:14:02.829
right? So if you're passing, a lot of times if

01:14:02.829 --> 01:14:05.430
you pass and you can flow into your set, but

01:14:05.430 --> 01:14:07.369
your angles of your approach, you have to work

01:14:07.369 --> 01:14:09.250
harder to get outside, and then you're rushing

01:14:09.250 --> 01:14:11.550
in on the right side, you're waiting a little

01:14:11.550 --> 01:14:13.630
more, you have time to find your approach angle

01:14:13.630 --> 01:14:18.810
and watch the play develop. So there are very

01:14:18.810 --> 01:14:23.310
big... even if they're nuanced in playing each

01:14:23.310 --> 01:14:26.430
of those. Question eight. What hypotheses do

01:14:26.430 --> 01:14:29.529
you have for Team Canada women for VNL that they've

01:14:29.529 --> 01:14:32.729
beaten higher ranked teams like USA and Poland,

01:14:32.909 --> 01:14:35.949
but they lost to teams like Germany and Thailand?

01:14:36.250 --> 01:14:38.489
Do you think they struggle against teams that

01:14:38.489 --> 01:14:42.649
they're expected slash supposed to beat? A hundred

01:14:42.649 --> 01:14:46.970
percent. That's a tale as old as time. I don't

01:14:46.970 --> 01:14:48.890
know if this is the case for sure, but I feel

01:14:48.890 --> 01:14:51.170
like... You see this, I saw this in beach volleyball

01:14:51.170 --> 01:14:54.390
a lot, and you see it in just a lot of sports

01:14:54.390 --> 01:14:58.609
in general, is a lot of people place value on

01:14:58.609 --> 01:15:04.289
opponents, on scores, on things like that, rankings.

01:15:05.489 --> 01:15:11.270
As soon as you assign value or good, better than,

01:15:11.329 --> 01:15:15.050
worse than to anything, you're screwed. You're

01:15:15.050 --> 01:15:17.229
screwed. I didn't see the Thailand game, but

01:15:17.229 --> 01:15:20.449
in watching the Germany game, it's like runs

01:15:20.449 --> 01:15:24.890
of points, build a lead, give it away. I just

01:15:24.890 --> 01:15:27.729
think it's a lack of focus. It's taking your

01:15:27.729 --> 01:15:30.670
foot off the gas because maybe you think you've

01:15:30.670 --> 01:15:34.170
got it in the bag or whatever, but it is definitely

01:15:34.170 --> 01:15:36.810
a mentality issue because you're right. If you're

01:15:36.810 --> 01:15:40.550
able to beat some top teams, there is no reason.

01:15:41.579 --> 01:15:44.399
that you should experience this level of inconsistency.

01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:46.579
And yes, we do see some up and down results.

01:15:46.739 --> 01:15:49.420
I'm not just saying that Canada is the only team

01:15:49.420 --> 01:15:52.079
that this happens to, but I think it happens

01:15:52.079 --> 01:15:54.039
to them enough that it's worth commenting on.

01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:56.479
Okay, so I have a cultural take. I'm curious

01:15:56.479 --> 01:16:00.819
what your thoughts are. I think Canada, as a

01:16:00.819 --> 01:16:05.779
nation, plays the underdog very well. I think

01:16:05.779 --> 01:16:10.279
we embrace that mentality in everything other

01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:13.699
than hockey. I think that's fair. And so when

01:16:13.699 --> 01:16:16.420
there's, when you feel like your back's up against

01:16:16.420 --> 01:16:18.579
the wall and you're like, I'm going to show you,

01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:21.720
we're like, I'm going to show you. We're really

01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:26.020
good in that position. But when we have to like

01:16:26.020 --> 01:16:28.060
puff your chest out and go, okay, we're, we're

01:16:28.060 --> 01:16:30.060
expected. Like we're better than this team. We

01:16:30.060 --> 01:16:32.640
don't, we don't, we don't do that very well.

01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:37.979
Like, yeah. And I, Canadians, it's just. I think

01:16:37.979 --> 01:16:41.779
there is a cultural component to that. Yeah,

01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:44.340
Canadians, generally speaking, are too nice.

01:16:44.779 --> 01:16:47.819
Too nice. They're like the nice guys, you know?

01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:51.840
And nobody can really take them seriously. When

01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:55.199
they're on top, they're not the ones who are

01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:57.819
going to have that swagger and that confidence.

01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:00.640
And you can kind of see it even with the national

01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:02.640
team. The women's team has gotten so much better,

01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:06.750
but it's like... Yeah, I think that's a good

01:17:06.750 --> 01:17:10.810
shout. Okay, our last question of the day. We

01:17:10.810 --> 01:17:14.649
know Adam loves stats and this person was struggling

01:17:14.649 --> 01:17:17.869
to find good data for matches. The VNL provides

01:17:17.869 --> 01:17:20.789
some stats, but not to the extent that we'd like.

01:17:21.369 --> 01:17:23.770
Interesting stats like where attacks are coming

01:17:23.770 --> 01:17:26.970
from, serve speed, things like that. So the question

01:17:26.970 --> 01:17:30.829
is, where is the best place to find good volleyball

01:17:30.829 --> 01:17:34.000
stats? We'll post the link in the show notes.

01:17:35.479 --> 01:17:39.260
So VNL does have access to all these stats, but

01:17:39.260 --> 01:17:40.960
for whatever reason, they don't post it on their

01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:45.340
website. But you can get them. You can get the

01:17:45.340 --> 01:17:48.460
raw data. And I've actually built a little interface

01:17:48.460 --> 01:17:52.000
I use for this podcast to pull data and look

01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:54.039
at different things. I don't know where else

01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:55.819
to find them. I couldn't find them anywhere.

01:17:56.060 --> 01:18:00.539
Or the place to look. So I just built it so we

01:18:00.539 --> 01:18:03.100
can. I mean, it's not perfect, and it's rough

01:18:03.100 --> 01:18:05.720
around the edges, and it takes me a while to

01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:07.760
update it sometimes. But I'll post it in the

01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:09.239
show notes if you want to take a look at it.

01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:12.600
That's what I look at. All right. Those are our

01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:15.220
questions for the week. Some controversial ones,

01:18:15.579 --> 01:18:20.380
some not controversial ones. Please understand

01:18:20.380 --> 01:18:24.579
that we're trying our best here. So we'd love

01:18:24.579 --> 01:18:26.460
to hear your thoughts regardless. And yeah, keep

01:18:26.460 --> 01:18:28.579
sending the questions in. We love them. Looking

01:18:28.579 --> 01:18:31.210
forward, there's nothing. There's no games next

01:18:31.210 --> 01:18:34.010
week. The week is off. Which is crazy. Between

01:18:34.010 --> 01:18:38.170
weeks two and three? Last year wasn't the break

01:18:38.170 --> 01:18:41.810
between weeks three and finally. I thought so.

01:18:42.109 --> 01:18:44.289
Maybe I blacked out. I kind of like this though.

01:18:44.750 --> 01:18:47.170
Then you can build a rhythm going into the finals.

01:18:47.250 --> 01:18:50.949
Other players can get some rest. I like this

01:18:50.949 --> 01:18:53.770
better. It's the final chance to make it. The

01:18:53.770 --> 01:18:55.489
teams that are on the edge of relegation can

01:18:55.489 --> 01:18:58.859
really buck up. The teams that want to fight

01:18:58.859 --> 01:19:01.199
for rankings, they have extra preparation time.

01:19:01.500 --> 01:19:03.720
I don't know. I just didn't, I didn't even know.

01:19:03.779 --> 01:19:05.020
I was looking at the schedule. I was like, hold

01:19:05.020 --> 01:19:08.100
up. What? Anyway, what are we going to do? I

01:19:08.100 --> 01:19:10.420
don't know. Maybe we'll take a break. Maybe we'll

01:19:10.420 --> 01:19:13.800
be here. We'll surprise you. That concludes this

01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:15.739
week's episode of Volley Talk. There's always

01:19:15.739 --> 01:19:17.539
something shaking in the volleyball world, and

01:19:17.539 --> 01:19:19.960
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