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Hi volleyball fans and welcome back to Volley

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Talk, the podcast created for volleyball lovers

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who want to dig deep into what is going on in

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NCAA and international volleyball. I'm your host

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Sarah Pavan. I'm an Olympian, beach volleyball

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world champion, former Nebraska Cornhusker, and

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longtime pro both indoor and on the beach. And

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I'm Adam Schultz, former indoor player, international

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volleyball coach, and the show's resident stat

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guy. Men's VNL week one kicked off. So we are

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in the full throes of VNL season now, everybody.

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Well, let me just say I was completely shocked

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at how good Anderson was at passing, having not

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done it at all in his career. Hilarious. Okay.

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Thank you so much to everybody who told us what

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idiots we are that were shocked that Matt Anderson

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was playing outside. Listen. Okay, fair. We deserve

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to be dragged for that one. We totally deserve

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to be dragged for that one. But in my defense,

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I was playing having my own career until literally

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late 2024. I was not watching what Matt Anderson

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was doing professionally. I'm not going to lie.

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Only knew him through the US stuff as an opposite.

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So that is my only defense. I've got nothing

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else to say. Feel free to roast me. It's fine.

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I will also say. I had a shocking revelation

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this week. Our daughter is starting to walk and

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both of us gave her USA volleyball feedback.

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We told her to be more up and down because she

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was head forward and rushing and a little top

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heavy. So that feedback is universal. It can

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be used absolutely anywhere. And now I know why

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they're doing it. Credit. You can use it for

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anything. So they're onto something. Week one

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was a little spicy, lots of five setters, and

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we're excited to talk about a few teams in particular.

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So let's get started. It is so hard. We've talked

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about this. The hardest position to make money

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is libero. So American liberos, it's really hard,

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A, to get a contract, B, to like make good money

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playing overseas. All of these libero signings

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I'm seeing are foreigners. They're like taking

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away the opportunity from their domestic liberos

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because like you go to any country in the world,

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pretty much the liberos are like citizens. Homegrown.

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Homegrown. You have a select few. Who go elsewhere.

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All these liberos that love is bringing in are

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foreign. So I think it just sucks for the American

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liberos. Cause like, that's a tough position

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to like make it anyway. That's what I was talking

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to somebody about online this week for love.

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Annie Schumacher is coming back. She, I haven't

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gotten the update, but I'm sure she's either

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given birth or is about to. So she'll have a

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solid six months to get back in shape. Sammy

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Francis is coming back to love. And Sabrina Starks.

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Sabrina Starks played for Pitt and was part of

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two of their final four appearances. They are

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coming to love. Then we've got Wang Mengjie.

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Excuse my Mandarin. That pronunciation was probably

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terrible. Former Chinese national team libero.

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We've got Thok Boom from Canada coming over.

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We've got a Thai left side, Kokram and Alexandra

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Szyszkowska. You get the idea. My, you know,

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there's some languages that I really struggle

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with. Polish being one of them. Polish is tough.

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And all the consonants. Those are the noteworthy

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international national team athletes coming back.

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We do have other ones. We've got... A selection

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of others. I'm not going to go through them all,

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but Paolo Coco is moving from Atlanta to Miami

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to be the head coach. A little bit of an upgrade.

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Location geography wise. Doesn't everybody want

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to be in Miami? I mean, it's not my first pick,

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but maybe you do. Those are the noteworthy ones

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that I came across this week. There's a lot more,

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but the names I highlighted were the ones that

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I felt like the majority of people would know.

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And on the MLV side, we've got Pure Kongvat going

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to Dallas. She is a Thai player. We've got Maddie

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Bug, who's going to Grand Rapids. Peyton Caffrey,

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who's been playing in Brazil, is going to Minnesota.

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So Minnesota is continuing to up their ante here.

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They're going to be good. You know what other

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team is making big moves? I wouldn't. put it

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at the same level right now as Minnesota or Omaha,

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but Columbus. Good for them. They have been making

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moves. They are really trying to reinforce and

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strengthen that roster. Well, they were much

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better this year than they were the year before,

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even though their record wasn't. They still finished

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like last. I understand that, but you have to

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admit they started the season strong. They were.

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much better from a volleyball perspective than

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they were before so clearly somebody there is

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invested in trying to make them better so I'm

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all for that and I'm glad to see they're making

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some roster changes and hopefully they work those

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are the highlights of who has signed in the two

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domestic leagues in the U .S. from the USA national

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team perspective the week two roster came out

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there's been lots of talk you know from last

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week and online and comments and this and that.

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The only changes they made were in the middle.

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They're bringing Red Key and Ogbagu. Makes sense.

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And they're adding Jordan Poulter. So they are

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having three setters, but literally everything

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else is the same. I'm a little surprised by that.

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That must mean that they are running with this

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roster. Like for all intents and purposes, this

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must be what they believe. they can do the best

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with barring players who are injured, who aren't

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traveling. Clearly they've done their talent

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identification. You would think that if they

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were going to make any other switches, they would

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make them in week two because you have to. Well,

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somebody tell me, is Kendall Kip injured? Like

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is Steph Samity really better than Kendall Kip?

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I don't know. We don't know. We haven't seen

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her play. You know, is Sarah Franklin injured?

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I don't know. Is Kara Halleck injured? Yeah,

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there's some question marks there. Be curious

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to know who actually can't travel and how much

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of these decisions are limited based on who's

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available. Well, I guess cameo minors aren't

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going to get a chance. No, she's not. Anyway,

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yeah, I'm just really confused. At least they're

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upgrading in the middle. We'll see how they do

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this week. All right, let's get into the meat

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of the episode with men's V &amp;L. Week one had

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a whole bunch of storylines. We'll give a little

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highlight, a little recap, and then talk about

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some of the games that we watched. First, let's

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look at, you know, who teams brought and what

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the expectations were. Looking at the rosters,

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I think pretty much everybody except for Italy,

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Poland, and the Cuba roster left me scratching

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my head. But everybody else had pretty competitive

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rosters. Besides missing a player here or there,

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like, for example, France left Lagoff at home.

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You know, some of the other rosters that I'm

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not quite so familiar with, Iran, Germany, like,

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it looked like they had most of their main players

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there. Like, Grozer wasn't there for Germany.

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Yeah. But, like, he was on the bench for a while

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last season. Expecting a full field and competitive.

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Now I will say Italy's roster had an average

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age of less than 24 and Poland's was just around

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25. So those two teams in particular were very

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young and left lots of very good players off.

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Results wise, Brazil and Japan are the only undefeated

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teams after week one. Same as the women. Yeah.

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USA is in third, which not sure I expected that.

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I didn't expect third. I thought they would be,

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I thought they would do well. And I thought that,

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you know, they had a legit shot to make final

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eight this year, but they got off to a very good

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start in a pretty tough group. And we will dive

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into the specifics of that later. Lots of five

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setters, lots of weird standings with teams winning

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or losing matches. and having better records,

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but going to five a lot, so not having as many

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points. Very interesting week one. For instance,

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Canada lost three games in five sets, finished

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third in their pool in terms of points, where

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Slovenia won three matches in five, and they're

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below teams with a better quote -unquote record.

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So really interesting. And two teams that have

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not got a win yet in Cuba and Argentina. Cuba,

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given the roster, that doesn't surprise me, but

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I'm surprised Argentina. Cuba needed to win that

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China match, though. They're going to be cruising

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potentially for relegation. That's going to hurt

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them. Yeah, definitely. Any other surprises for

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you or storylines from week one that caught your

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attention? I am surprised that France only got

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one win. They are plummeting in the ranks. They,

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I wouldn't even say they looked bad. Because

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I don't think bad, they didn't look bad by any

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means. So I spent some time thinking about this

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because I was also shocked at the results that

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they posted in week one. Do you remember last

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episode in VNL? We talked about them looking

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a little laissez -faire in some matches. Kind

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of having the impression that they assumed they

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would be able to just turn it on and win when

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they needed to. Did you get that impression watching

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them? It wasn't quite like that, but they also

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didn't look incredibly sharp. It was, you know,

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one error here, one error there. Errors by committee,

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quite frankly. I didn't think anybody played

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really, really well, but it just lacked... The

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intensity that I've seen from them when they're

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playing really well. Yeah, I don't know if I

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got a laissez -faire attitude from them. They

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definitely tried to save Brizard for as long

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as they could. And then it's like, oh, dang.

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Okay. Time to put him in. But they played a couple

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of young middles. As you said, Le Goff didn't

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go. So Guy and the 18 -year -old were playing.

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A lot. There's that Boye, I think, did pretty

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well. Honestly, Klevno was not as good as he

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was in week one last year. And you know why?

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He can't do the slime balls. I love Klevno. You

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guys know that. But like, honestly, these new

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rules are really changing the game for a lot

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of players who were excelling in the last couple

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seasons. I was going to ask you about that because

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I think. If you ask me to pick a slimy team,

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volley overs, one -handed nonsense. Well, Brissard

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runs a lightning fast offense. France's left

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sides are greasy in the best of ways. No, we've

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talked about this before. We talked about this

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last year. They run a really fast offense, and

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their players are really good at manipulating

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the ball. The score points. Yeah, I was also

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thinking of do the rule changes affect France

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maybe a little more than some of the other teams?

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Because they're not, France's left sides aren't

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big. No, and there's no other, I mean, off the

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top of my head, I can't think of another explanation

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as to why they would be plummeting so quickly.

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Other than they are now forced to play a cleaner

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style of volleyball, which they haven't had to

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do. So that will be an interesting storyline.

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Will they claw back? Yeah. Can they find a rhythm?

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Are they going to have to slow their offense

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down to the left side? What does that look like

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then if Klevno and Heno and the rest of the left

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sides are hitting against a more solid block?

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But Canada blocked really well against them.

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Yes. That's the thing. The thing about a fast

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offense is if you can use it to get one -on -ones,

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it's really, really good. But if teams have you

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dialed in, hitting a really fast ball against

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a well -formed block is very difficult. Agreed.

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So that's something I definitely want to watch

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as we continue. Now, we watched mostly the Ottawa

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pool. Canada was playing, so I wanted to see

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how they looked along with the U .S., but they

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also had Italy and France in that pool. I watched

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a bit of the China pool. Yeah, you got a little

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bit more of that. I watched more of the Canada

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pool. We got a whole bunch of questions about

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Canada and the U .S. Give me your overall impression

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of watching Canada, your thoughts, and after

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your initial impressions, we'll talk about the

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reason we think they're losing so many matches

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in five. Well, that was the first thing. They're

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pushing teams to five and losing. Every match

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they go to five. The reverse sweep against the

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U .S., come on. There was no reason for that

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to happen. Same against France. Like, I don't

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know. I think they're looking better. They're

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a stronger team than they were last year. I think

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Chinsky's playing really well. I think Demyanyenko

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is virtually unstoppable when he gets the ball.

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Howe played really well. Even Howe. Like, their

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middles and right side are doing really well.

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The Lepke -Marr combo are also good. I honestly

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think, like, if you're losing in five that consistently,

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I feel like it's a mentality thing. And I think

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we spoke about this a little bit. I think their

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coach, Dan Lewis, kind of messes things up for

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them frequently. I think he's done a really good

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job. It rubs off on the team and not in a good

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way. I had the same instinct. And I was wondering

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if it was because I'm actually Canadian and I

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felt a little embarrassed watching him. It was

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cringy for sure. But then you see the classiness

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of some of the other coaches when they are asked

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questions. And even if their team is losing,

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they show up to the interview. They're able to

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give credit. to the other team and be objective

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and offer some tidbits of what their team has

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to work on. He's like too busy to even come talk

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to the people in between and just. If Bernardo

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and Karch and Gerbich can come and do interviews

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in between sets two and three, you can get out

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there and do it. I get sometimes there's things,

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but like I didn't see him do one. The thing for

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me is I agree with you. I don't think I've seen

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Canada play this well. in a long time they are

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good and they start on time they're ready to

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go they're competitive they're the game plans

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are clearly in place so i'm impressed from a

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volleyball standpoint but the word i think that

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comes to mind for me when i watch those things

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is immature he was he's a hot -headed player

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and i don't think he has shifted to being in

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that mindset of i'm a coach now part of that

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is Bringing a presence is bringing a calmness

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is understanding that it's more than just your

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team in that moment, that there is TV, that there

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are like, it's all part of that package. No,

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like you can get fired up as a coach. Don't get

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me wrong. But like, what are you doing running

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around the court and then like swearing and like

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jumping in the air? Like you're on the court,

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you're not on the court. So I'm then yelling

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at the rat, like, stop it. He just, he has a

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bit more. maturing from the player to coach role,

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I think. But he's also being outcoached at the

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end of matches. Like, so for example, in the

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US game, Demyanko scored at will that whole match.

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And then in the fifth set, the US got two or

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three really good slowdowns on him and turned

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for points. Now, you can't tell me that's by

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accident. You get it once maybe, but multiple

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times. They made adjustments. And I think...

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And I don't know what his staff is like, but

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if you're that fired up and in the moment, you're

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not always paying attention. The assistants look

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young. Yes. And I know one of them personally,

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like they're young. There is maybe a growing

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as a staff as well to understand some of the

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changes because clearly the game plans at the

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beginning are good, but the in -game adjustments

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and he gives good technical feedback in match,

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specifically passing and defense wise, but we'll

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see offensively if they can. continue to make

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adjustments when teams change their defense and

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just like yeah your attitude starts at the top

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and I think the fact that we're seeing them crumble

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in fifth sets like as you said teams are making

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adjustments but also like when you see your coach

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complaining to the ref saying that this is this

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oh you didn't call this it's a subjective call

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blah blah that as a player You hear that and

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then all of a sudden it's like, yeah, you're

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right. We're being hard done by. We're being

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hard done by. Like, no. Put your head down and

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work. There was one other incident that I saw

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that I also think kind of adds to that culture.

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There was a moment in the fifth set against France

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where Marr was in the front row and he rotated

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back and I think they were point for point to

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try and finish that set off. It was match point

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for France, I believe. And he was going back

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to serve. And you could see him go and ask for

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a sub from what I could see. He ended up serving.

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A good ball. He served a really good ball. But

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that mentality of, hey, take me off the floor.

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Dude, I get it. How many players out there are

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super excited to go back and hammer a spin serve

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when it's match point for the other team? It's

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not the best feeling in the world. I get it.

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But you're the leader on the team. You're the

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most experienced player there. And all of a sudden,

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you side out and you immediately walk to the

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sideline and take me out. What message is that

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sending? And so when you have those actions by

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your veterans and your coach, there's a little

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bit of a shift that needs to happen there, I

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think, for them to push through. Because they

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were good enough to win some of those matches.

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And they're just not doing it yet. So it's not

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the end of the world for Canada. They still got

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a decent number of points even though they lost

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three matches in five. I mean, they're in 13th.

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That's not great. No, it's not great. But if

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they have a good week two and they change some

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of those results, they're by no means out of

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it at this point because they did manage to get

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some points. So hopefully they can regroup and

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come back because I think missing elimination

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rounds would be a huge disappointment for them

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given the age of their roster and I think the

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expectations going in. Thoughts on the U .S.?

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I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I enjoy watching the men

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significantly more than the women. I think to

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see their development over the last year, I think

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a lot of players have gotten better. I'm thinking

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particularly like some of the younger guys. I

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understand why they put Matt Anderson on the

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outside. Okay. Haynes and Hartke played very

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well. Have arrived. Wow. Their middles were solid.

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You know, I think they looked really good. They

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did. Really good. My only concern is, do you

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have, like, their right sides need to continue

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being able to score. So right now, nobody has

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video on them. They're new. Well, you also got

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Garcia and Ensign that can play right side too.

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100%. But if there's a question mark, so I like

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Anderson on the left. He gives you someone who's

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a little more terminal. Again, I thought he passed

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pretty well. I like their middles. McHenry is

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virtually unstoppable. He goes over top of the

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block. He went over Demyanko into six, like a

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foot in front of the baseline. That's an undigable

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swing. And Maha set him incredibly well. Rowan,

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I thought, had a really good connection with

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him. Yeah. Again, it's going to be, can those

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right sides score those big points when they

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need them? By all accounts, the showings this

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week from both of them, it was outstanding, quite

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frankly. I was a little worried when Hardkey

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scored his first ever point and that tongue came

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out. I was like, dude, not the place. Read the

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room. But I don't know what happened, if somebody

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talked to him or what, but he toned it down a

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little bit after that and just played and played

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well. That's what this is about, right? So you

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come in, you're a young buck, you're playing

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well, you're amped up. Somebody sits you down.

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He had a post -match interview where he gave

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his coaches credit. He was very humble. Like,

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I can't tell you, I can't speak highly enough

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about A, how he performed, and then B, how he

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acted afterwards. I think that's huge growth

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for him, and I'm super happy and excited for

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him. He could be player of the year in the NCAA

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next year after this experience because he was

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outstanding. And thanks, Ottawa, who booed. The

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U .S. every single time they went back to serve.

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So that is classy. Not sure Ottawa deserved thanks

00:22:37.829 --> 00:22:40.450
at the end of that game. Well, I think the U

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.S. maybe gets that in a lot of different places.

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So they're used to it. But overall, I think they're

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going to be very good. Yeah, I agree. And TJ

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DeFalco wasn't there. Christensen wasn't there.

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Like, they still have pieces that they can add.

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But I was pleasantly surprised with their performance.

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All of a sudden, that opposite position is crowded.

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Yeah. Very crowded. And Eric Shoji coming in

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as a serving sub. With a couple points. Watch

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out. Yeah. Honestly turned the trajectory of

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that set because it was neck and neck. And then

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I think he served like four balls. I was like,

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wow. He came in, served a ball. And got a dig.

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I was like, well, that's what he was supposed

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to do. Good job. I wonder when the last time

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he served was. I know. I was thinking that. Liberos

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love doing other skills other than digging and

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passing, so he was probably in his element. I'm

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really curious to see what their final roster

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looks like. They're going to be one of those

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teams that's super structured, very difficult

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to play against. It's just going to be, and their

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star players elevate to the star players of the

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Italy's, the Poland's, when it comes down to

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that. but they're very good. I was very impressed.

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Italy had some kids who looked like they were

00:24:02.619 --> 00:24:05.119
still 16 or 17. I'm sure they were older than

00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:08.740
that, but there were some babies there. Well,

00:24:08.779 --> 00:24:10.720
yeah, we saw some of them play Vienna last year,

00:24:10.779 --> 00:24:13.720
but yeah, you didn't have Gianelli there. You

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didn't have your usual suspects, but I mean,

00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:20.220
they're playing in the Italian league, so they

00:24:20.220 --> 00:24:22.380
held it down pretty well. Yeah, I was impressed.

00:24:22.579 --> 00:24:26.079
Rich Lissky, I didn't think was... great again

00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:27.900
he was subbed in and out he's not my favorite

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but yeah so we'll i mean we'll leave it like

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that but i'm just so impressed with the italian

00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:40.440
federation that they have the depth and i'm so

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curious how they build that composure into those

00:24:44.140 --> 00:24:47.359
young athletes to come out onto that stage and

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compete like they're winning a couple like dug

00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:55.059
in matches coming back after being down I was

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thoroughly impressed, A, with the volleyball,

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but B, just with the mentality and the expectation

00:25:00.579 --> 00:25:06.000
of the program. Italy, across the board, is doing

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it right at all levels. It's impressive. What

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were your thoughts on, I know you watched some

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Japan, you watched some Slovenia. What else did

00:25:16.660 --> 00:25:19.900
you see? I mean, I saw like a little bit of Japan,

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Poland, and Slovenia. I mean, Slovenia, I thought

00:25:23.369 --> 00:25:27.670
looked pretty good. Mujanovic is playing really

00:25:27.670 --> 00:25:30.150
well. I feel like he's improved. Like he was

00:25:30.150 --> 00:25:33.089
coming in off the bench last season. He, I think

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he's improved and he is their go -to player now.

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I think he's doing really, really well. Japan

00:25:39.430 --> 00:25:44.809
had a pretty solid roster across the board. And

00:25:44.809 --> 00:25:47.789
honestly, Slovenia in their match against Japan,

00:25:47.910 --> 00:25:51.549
they served really well, like created a lot of

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disruption and generated a lot of aces by serving

00:25:55.730 --> 00:25:58.210
across passing zones. I was pretty surprised.

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But I mean, ultimately, Japan won in four after

00:26:01.529 --> 00:26:06.069
giving away the first set. So, I mean, when Slovenia

00:26:06.069 --> 00:26:08.990
was in system, Japan couldn't really touch them.

00:26:09.089 --> 00:26:13.339
It was definitely a serving battle. Poland, as

00:26:13.339 --> 00:26:17.400
we said, didn't have their main players there,

00:26:17.579 --> 00:26:21.119
but still pushed teams to five. I think that

00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:26.920
pool was solid. I mean, I enjoyed watching them.

00:26:27.059 --> 00:26:30.180
Yeah, I wasn't watching like I was against with

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Canada being like, what are you doing? Well,

00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:36.119
we also have Serbia with more wins in week one

00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.539
than I think they had a whole last year. What

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happened? They've righted that ship this year.

00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:44.920
They finished second in that pool. Three wins

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already. I thought the action was really good.

00:26:48.299 --> 00:26:52.220
I didn't watch any match that I thought was somewhat

00:26:52.220 --> 00:26:55.900
of a dud. Competitive. The teams look good, ready

00:26:55.900 --> 00:26:58.640
to go. So I'm excited for week two. I think we'll

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have more of a clear picture. I'm assuming Poland's

00:27:01.900 --> 00:27:05.160
going to bring some of their main guys back.

00:27:05.420 --> 00:27:07.519
I have no feel for what Italy's going to do.

00:27:07.539 --> 00:27:09.380
They were good enough that maybe they don't.

00:27:09.660 --> 00:27:12.579
seeing if people are healthy. But overall, a

00:27:12.579 --> 00:27:16.240
great week one with the men's VNL, and I'm thoroughly

00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:19.140
looking forward to next week as well. All right,

00:27:19.220 --> 00:27:22.079
let's dive into our listener questions. Question

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one, what is your guys' thoughts on a setter

00:27:25.339 --> 00:27:27.839
setting the ball on her way down instead of at

00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:31.430
the apex of her jump? I think Kimmy Miner does

00:27:31.430 --> 00:27:33.329
this and there's one international setter who

00:27:33.329 --> 00:27:36.890
does it also. It supposedly freezes the blockers

00:27:36.890 --> 00:27:39.490
for a longer time and gives the offensive team

00:27:39.490 --> 00:27:43.750
an advantage. What do you think? Two things pop

00:27:43.750 --> 00:27:46.089
into mind when you tell me that. One is I think

00:27:46.089 --> 00:27:48.109
it would really screw up the timing of the middle

00:27:48.109 --> 00:27:50.390
because generally you're looking to connect with

00:27:50.390 --> 00:27:53.190
them at the apex of your jump. And the second

00:27:53.190 --> 00:27:56.529
thing is it would make you more inconsistent

00:27:56.529 --> 00:28:00.059
as a setter because... It's really hard to connect

00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:02.839
and release the ball at the same time on the

00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:05.279
way down as opposed to always releasing at your

00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.079
apex. So I think it would make you more inconsistent.

00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.599
I feel like it also kind of neutralizes your

00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.839
ability offensively to be an offensive threat

00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.759
as a setter because once a team dials into your

00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:23.160
timing and stuff, they could key in on you before

00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.640
you actually set the ball. So it kind of... neutralizes

00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:31.140
you as an offensive option thinking about it

00:28:31.140 --> 00:28:33.299
it also makes me think the back set would be

00:28:33.299 --> 00:28:35.140
more inconsistent because it's really hard it

00:28:35.140 --> 00:28:37.059
would be hard to throw your hips and release

00:28:37.059 --> 00:28:42.579
on the way down now I haven't seen anyone teach

00:28:42.579 --> 00:28:44.980
this I haven't seen and that doesn't mean it

00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:46.339
doesn't happen doesn't mean it's right or wrong

00:28:46.339 --> 00:28:48.480
I just haven't personally seen it I'm honestly

00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.559
wondering if this you know what this person is

00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:54.279
referring to is kind of a byproduct that has

00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.700
developed As a result of these setters trying

00:28:57.700 --> 00:29:00.640
to see what the blockers on the other side are

00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.500
doing or like waiting off the blockers on the

00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:05.819
other side. And it just happens to have that

00:29:05.819 --> 00:29:08.180
kind of timing. I would be shocked if somebody

00:29:08.180 --> 00:29:11.960
was teaching this. So my instinct is that it's

00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:17.200
these setters way of finding the blockers. Yeah.

00:29:17.420 --> 00:29:20.460
The best setters, in my opinion, when I think

00:29:20.460 --> 00:29:22.599
of like who are the top setters, they're contacting

00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.210
the ball at the top. I've honestly never looked

00:29:25.210 --> 00:29:27.269
at or noticed that when I've been scouting teams

00:29:27.269 --> 00:29:30.049
in terms of a setter coming down or anything

00:29:30.049 --> 00:29:32.349
like that. So, I mean, obviously this person

00:29:32.349 --> 00:29:37.569
has found two. It's rare, but my instinct is

00:29:37.569 --> 00:29:39.930
it would give you less of an advantage than it

00:29:39.930 --> 00:29:43.710
would cause you issues. Okay, question two. Why

00:29:43.710 --> 00:29:47.390
aren't African teams included in the VNL on the

00:29:47.390 --> 00:29:50.609
women's side? I know the actual reason. I think

00:29:50.609 --> 00:29:53.869
VNL is based on ranking, but... It seems like

00:29:53.869 --> 00:29:56.089
African teams get the short end of the stick.

00:29:56.230 --> 00:29:58.690
I know funding and talent level isn't the best,

00:29:58.769 --> 00:30:00.789
but if you want to grow the game, doesn't it

00:30:00.789 --> 00:30:03.630
make sense to have representation? Honestly,

00:30:03.789 --> 00:30:05.430
I feel like that's what the Olympics are for.

00:30:06.109 --> 00:30:10.650
Like in the Olympics, there needs to be at least

00:30:10.650 --> 00:30:14.890
one team per continent. And I feel like the Olympics

00:30:14.890 --> 00:30:20.869
kind of embodies that spirit of. and representation

00:30:20.869 --> 00:30:25.430
and bringing the world together as one. I personally

00:30:25.430 --> 00:30:30.190
think that VNL should be elite and should be

00:30:30.190 --> 00:30:33.430
the best of the best. That might not be a popular

00:30:33.430 --> 00:30:36.809
opinion, but yeah. Well, that's what VNL is for,

00:30:36.890 --> 00:30:40.009
right? There are other ways to qualify for different

00:30:40.009 --> 00:30:42.269
types of tournaments and things like that. If

00:30:42.269 --> 00:30:46.470
you really wanted Africa to be good and driven

00:30:46.470 --> 00:30:48.980
in the sport. You need to put money in there.

00:30:49.019 --> 00:30:50.700
You need to help them establish leagues. Then

00:30:50.700 --> 00:30:52.599
you need to allow them to play against teams

00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:54.599
from other continents to see where they need

00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:57.359
to go. In terms of skill and what the level is,

00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:00.140
you need to have some competitions that are high

00:31:00.140 --> 00:31:01.940
level. If you had an African team in there that

00:31:01.940 --> 00:31:05.059
was getting hammered by everybody, if you happen

00:31:05.059 --> 00:31:07.380
to be the team that didn't get to play them in

00:31:07.380 --> 00:31:09.519
pool play, Because you don't play everybody.

00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:13.500
Now you get a severe disadvantage points -wise.

00:31:13.779 --> 00:31:15.799
I mean, and let's say they include an African

00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:17.420
team and then they just get relegated right away.

00:31:17.579 --> 00:31:20.839
Yeah. Like, is that fun also? No. You need to

00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:23.799
help them earn a berth to grow the sport. You

00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:27.799
know, I think the FIVB does run initiatives for

00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:32.650
underfunded countries when they do submit. you

00:31:32.650 --> 00:31:36.809
know, applications, the FIVB sends coaches there.

00:31:36.950 --> 00:31:40.750
I know, especially on the beach side, they fund,

00:31:40.869 --> 00:31:44.569
I'm pretty sure travel coaching expenses, et

00:31:44.569 --> 00:31:48.170
cetera, for certain teams that apply for that

00:31:48.170 --> 00:31:50.630
financial aid. And I'm pretty sure they do the

00:31:50.630 --> 00:31:54.529
same thing for indoor. If countries apply and

00:31:54.529 --> 00:31:58.230
show a need for services, the FIVB does pay for

00:31:58.230 --> 00:32:01.450
a lot. Am I saying that that is enough to like,

00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.000
get them to where they need to be to be in VNL?

00:32:05.180 --> 00:32:10.519
No, but there are resources available that have

00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.880
been put in place to try to get something going.

00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:18.140
You want them in VNL, yes. But just putting them

00:32:18.140 --> 00:32:20.599
there is not the right solution, I don't think.

00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:24.160
You have to help them earn their way in, which

00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:26.880
is a long process, but that's the better way

00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:30.809
to grow the game. Okay, question three. So it's

00:32:30.809 --> 00:32:34.609
about the new rule for the double -handed tip,

00:32:34.730 --> 00:32:38.769
the throw. Giovanni Guidetti got a red card arguing

00:32:38.769 --> 00:32:42.809
this against Japan in the fifth set on week one

00:32:42.809 --> 00:32:45.650
of the women's game. But we're seeing this as

00:32:45.650 --> 00:32:48.690
an issue in almost every match that we're watching.

00:32:48.950 --> 00:32:53.069
Do you understand this rule? Isn't it very subjective?

00:32:53.329 --> 00:32:55.970
I think they should give up on this before the

00:32:55.970 --> 00:32:58.529
EuroLeague starts. It will be chaos. What do

00:32:58.529 --> 00:33:04.440
you think? I am 100 % all for this rule. It has

00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.779
gotten so sloppy in terms of what you can do

00:33:07.779 --> 00:33:10.880
with the ball, how you can change the direction.

00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:14.579
For me, it's taking away the need of a good set,

00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.339
a good hittable ball. I'm a huge fan of the rule.

00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:21.420
I understand where the confusion comes in, but

00:33:21.420 --> 00:33:23.940
it will get better. The refs will get more consistent.

00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.359
Everybody will understand. what the rules are.

00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:29.920
Essentially, it's about how long the ball is

00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:32.799
in your hand and if you're changing the direction

00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.039
of the ball while it's in your hand. Those are

00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.660
kind of the two criteria. Now, obviously, there's

00:33:37.660 --> 00:33:40.339
a sliding scale on that and some refs are here,

00:33:40.420 --> 00:33:43.460
some refs are there. The referees do video replay

00:33:43.460 --> 00:33:46.339
of all of their calls and their matches before

00:33:46.339 --> 00:33:48.900
they come into tournaments. Like, they will get

00:33:48.900 --> 00:33:51.180
the calls dialed in eventually. There's a little

00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:53.400
growing pain, but this happens in almost all

00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:55.279
sports and I think it's for the better of the

00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:57.500
game. I mean, I agree with what you're saying.

00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:02.200
I also agree with this listener's question. It

00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:06.619
is chaotic currently. The refs are on different

00:34:06.619 --> 00:34:09.820
pages. Yes, it is subjective, which makes it

00:34:09.820 --> 00:34:13.000
tricky. You can tell that the refs, you know,

00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.039
are not all on the same page, which is where

00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:18.659
a lot of the frustration comes from the athletes,

00:34:18.699 --> 00:34:21.039
the coaches, and even as viewers. Like, why are

00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:24.000
we stopping play? I think that this needs to

00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.380
be implemented because like offenses have gotten

00:34:26.380 --> 00:34:31.179
so, so fast to counteract the huge blocks, the

00:34:31.179 --> 00:34:34.340
really improved defenses. that hitters have gotten

00:34:34.340 --> 00:34:38.179
so sloppy because in order to catch up with the

00:34:38.179 --> 00:34:40.699
sets and the inconsistency that comes with lightning

00:34:40.699 --> 00:34:44.159
speed offenses, this rule is going to make either

00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:47.300
setters much more consistent or we're going to

00:34:47.300 --> 00:34:50.300
see offenses start to slow down a little bit

00:34:50.300 --> 00:34:53.099
more. I think both are going to happen because

00:34:53.099 --> 00:34:55.599
to get incredibly consistent, you need to slow

00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:57.719
things down a little bit. I think it will make

00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:01.380
the game more beautiful, for lack of a better

00:35:01.380 --> 00:35:04.380
word. I just think, yeah, there are growing pains

00:35:04.380 --> 00:35:07.460
while we figure it out. Question four. Do you

00:35:07.460 --> 00:35:09.719
think Jamie Morrison would have been a good option

00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.019
as a coach over Eric Sullivan? He's exposed to

00:35:13.019 --> 00:35:15.380
international volleyball and he's worked with

00:35:15.380 --> 00:35:18.300
Karch before. I think his stint as the head coach

00:35:18.300 --> 00:35:21.320
of the Dutch national team did not go well. Now,

00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.780
again, he's young. He's learned. It's really

00:35:23.780 --> 00:35:27.360
hard to know which coaches will connect with

00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:31.420
which athletes. The one thing I will say is.

00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:34.019
I think having that international experience

00:35:34.019 --> 00:35:37.239
and understanding how that works, having been

00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.719
a head coach before, I think all of that experience

00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.559
matters. Well, let's not forget, Eric Sullivan

00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.280
has international experience too. He's been an

00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.599
assistant on the men's team for a long time.

00:35:50.300 --> 00:35:53.079
So it's not like he's new to international volleyball.

00:35:53.929 --> 00:35:56.090
He's new to women's international volleyball.

00:35:56.409 --> 00:35:59.570
And he's new to a head coaching role. I think

00:35:59.570 --> 00:36:02.690
there is a huge, huge difference between being

00:36:02.690 --> 00:36:05.929
a head coach and an assistant coach. And the

00:36:05.929 --> 00:36:08.530
fact that he has never been a head coach even

00:36:08.530 --> 00:36:12.630
in college, I think that's very obvious. Do I

00:36:12.630 --> 00:36:14.369
think Jamie Morrison would be doing a better

00:36:14.369 --> 00:36:18.650
job? I don't know. I know when he was coaching

00:36:18.650 --> 00:36:21.929
internationally, it did not go well. And he was

00:36:21.929 --> 00:36:25.670
a scout. for Karch, at least at the beginning.

00:36:25.750 --> 00:36:28.329
I don't know how he elevated within the coaching

00:36:28.329 --> 00:36:32.429
ranks with USA. I think his understanding of

00:36:32.429 --> 00:36:34.909
the international stats game and what to look

00:36:34.909 --> 00:36:37.570
for, I think that could be an asset. It's not

00:36:37.570 --> 00:36:40.050
fair to say he would be better or not, but I

00:36:40.050 --> 00:36:42.809
do think international experience on the women's

00:36:42.809 --> 00:36:46.130
side and having been a head coach, I mean, probably

00:36:46.130 --> 00:36:49.750
should be a prerequisite for being a head coach

00:36:49.750 --> 00:36:51.650
of a national team. Having been a head coach

00:36:51.650 --> 00:36:54.429
somewhere. Yeah. Okay, question five. What is

00:36:54.429 --> 00:36:57.530
your opinion on Champlin's gameplay? What makes

00:36:57.530 --> 00:37:00.329
him effective despite his height? So I watched

00:37:00.329 --> 00:37:04.429
a lot of US men's this week. And here are the

00:37:04.429 --> 00:37:06.769
things that I noticed from him. The first thing

00:37:06.769 --> 00:37:09.650
is when he attacks, his shoulders are facing

00:37:09.650 --> 00:37:14.210
in the same place on every swing. That allows

00:37:14.210 --> 00:37:16.809
him to be a little more deceptive. He's got a

00:37:16.809 --> 00:37:19.349
really good... thumb down so he can pull that

00:37:19.349 --> 00:37:21.550
in the angle if he sees the block because his

00:37:21.550 --> 00:37:23.429
vision is good his shoulders are kind of in that

00:37:23.429 --> 00:37:26.349
five six seam he can wait and snap it down the

00:37:26.349 --> 00:37:29.630
line he's very smart but he works away from the

00:37:29.630 --> 00:37:32.050
ball to put himself in the same position and

00:37:32.050 --> 00:37:34.769
look the same all the time which is incredibly

00:37:34.769 --> 00:37:38.210
important for a smaller hitter. So offensively,

00:37:38.210 --> 00:37:41.250
that was the biggest thing I noticed. In general,

00:37:41.309 --> 00:37:43.650
he's a very technical player. His block with

00:37:43.650 --> 00:37:45.849
his left hand on the outside is good. He goes

00:37:45.849 --> 00:37:48.449
over first and then waits to see and pushes it.

00:37:48.510 --> 00:37:51.449
He just technically sound in all facets of the

00:37:51.449 --> 00:37:53.409
game. And then I really like his decision making.

00:37:53.550 --> 00:37:56.289
But from an attacking standpoint, I think that's

00:37:56.289 --> 00:37:59.559
the difference for him. All right, question six.

00:37:59.780 --> 00:38:02.719
For the men and women's game, why are right sides

00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:06.280
so important to winning games? Well, you're an

00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.699
oppo. You start with this one. Oh my gosh. Yes,

00:38:09.699 --> 00:38:12.780
I was an opposite. So am I the right person to

00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:15.559
answer this? Maybe I'm biased. I mean, I think

00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:19.179
this is a good question. I think the answer that

00:38:19.179 --> 00:38:23.960
pops to mind for me is the opposite sole focus

00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:27.730
is point scoring. We make fun of opposites for

00:38:27.730 --> 00:38:29.989
like not playing defense, having the easiest

00:38:29.989 --> 00:38:32.590
job out there. But when you have an outside,

00:38:32.690 --> 00:38:35.449
for example, they need to really dial in their

00:38:35.449 --> 00:38:38.449
passing. Most of the serve receive balls run

00:38:38.449 --> 00:38:41.690
through the outside hitters. And if they're not

00:38:41.690 --> 00:38:45.710
executing, nobody's hitting. Okay, so they have

00:38:45.710 --> 00:38:49.030
like a lot of responsibilities aside from just

00:38:49.030 --> 00:38:52.289
point scoring. As an opposite, you can literally

00:38:52.289 --> 00:38:56.199
just dial in. I need to score points offensively.

00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:58.619
I need to block some balls and serve some aces.

00:38:58.659 --> 00:39:02.280
That is it. They are so important because they

00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:06.920
are the outlet for those points. And most of

00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.900
the out of system balls or garbage balls or panic

00:39:09.900 --> 00:39:12.800
balls or whatever run through them. And it does

00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.619
take a very specific skill set to be able to

00:39:15.619 --> 00:39:18.460
score when everybody knows you're getting the

00:39:18.460 --> 00:39:22.030
ball. To be able to score when... Your teammates

00:39:22.030 --> 00:39:23.889
are just panicking in and out of system ball

00:39:23.889 --> 00:39:26.610
and throwing it up there. Not a lot of people

00:39:26.610 --> 00:39:29.849
are comfortable or confident kind of taking those

00:39:29.849 --> 00:39:33.150
swings and being terminal on them. They also

00:39:33.150 --> 00:39:36.110
are usually a bigger presence. So they shut down

00:39:36.110 --> 00:39:39.469
the other team's outside hitters. They are helping

00:39:39.469 --> 00:39:42.050
block the middle. They're helping block the,

00:39:42.110 --> 00:39:44.929
you know, back row balls, particularly the pipe,

00:39:45.030 --> 00:39:47.590
obviously. And they have the green light to just

00:39:47.590 --> 00:39:50.059
go for it on serve. Can you tell that I played

00:39:50.059 --> 00:39:53.739
the position? I'm just like doing a serious cell

00:39:53.739 --> 00:39:57.300
job here. Everything that you said is accurate.

00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:01.400
The one thing I will say is you don't need a

00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:03.840
great opposite if you have a left side who can

00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.179
do those things. Positions are relevant. That's

00:40:06.179 --> 00:40:09.800
what Adam's saying. Well, no, you need a player

00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:12.480
who can do the things that you've talked about.

00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.880
Historically, they have been opposites. But we

00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:18.780
are starting to see that change a little bit.

00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.900
Antropova moving to the left. Markova. Markova.

00:40:23.019 --> 00:40:27.019
You have some left sides who are stepping into

00:40:27.019 --> 00:40:30.539
that role. Now, like you said, it's more challenging.

00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.659
We saw Antropova struggle a little bit having

00:40:32.659 --> 00:40:35.360
to get her approach out when she's passing. But

00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:39.179
if you can, you need a point scorer who can score

00:40:39.179 --> 00:40:41.960
both in and out of system and be a threat from

00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:45.440
the service line. And we have said. We've said

00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:47.000
it more about the women's game than the men's

00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:49.219
because the transition is much more drastic that

00:40:49.219 --> 00:40:53.260
we're seeing. Athletes like Antropova and Markova

00:40:53.260 --> 00:40:57.239
will revolutionize the game. 100%. If the game

00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.239
heads this direction and there are more players

00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.360
that are able to play left side like they are

00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:04.539
capable of, the women's game is going to completely

00:41:04.539 --> 00:41:08.099
change. I agree with your answer, but I think

00:41:08.099 --> 00:41:10.300
you're starting to see it maybe not be quite

00:41:10.300 --> 00:41:13.130
as position specific. So you're not as important

00:41:13.130 --> 00:41:15.809
as you thought you were. Okay, question seven.

00:41:16.110 --> 00:41:18.829
Am I crazy to think that Sullivan should start

00:41:18.829 --> 00:41:21.829
adding Kari Knotts to the VNL roster? I know

00:41:21.829 --> 00:41:24.530
she's young, but that's how Vargas, Igonu, and

00:41:24.530 --> 00:41:27.489
the other greats started. Obviously, she's on

00:41:27.489 --> 00:41:29.929
their radar, but it would be nice to see how

00:41:29.929 --> 00:41:34.849
she performs internationally. I am a proponent

00:41:34.849 --> 00:41:39.760
of send her to be on the bench. Gain that experience.

00:41:39.900 --> 00:41:42.139
Put her in to serve some balls because we've

00:41:42.139 --> 00:41:44.420
talked about how the US women do not serve very

00:41:44.420 --> 00:41:46.880
aggressively. That's honestly how I got started

00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:49.480
with my senior team. Not that we can compare

00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:53.599
the Canadian women's national team early 2000s

00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:56.840
to, you know, the US women now. I'm not trying

00:41:56.840 --> 00:42:00.539
to make that comparison. But as a 16 year old

00:42:00.539 --> 00:42:04.119
kid, I traveled to what was World Grand Prix

00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.139
at the time. I rode the bench and I got put in

00:42:07.139 --> 00:42:10.650
to serve. in certain situations against Russia

00:42:10.650 --> 00:42:14.510
against you know Korea against Brazil it was

00:42:14.510 --> 00:42:18.489
important for me a to have a different role than

00:42:18.489 --> 00:42:21.150
I've I had had in my career up to that point

00:42:21.150 --> 00:42:27.489
being not 15 16 and also being in that environment

00:42:27.489 --> 00:42:32.010
having to come in execute a skill stay focused

00:42:32.010 --> 00:42:34.050
stay dialed in I think it was really important

00:42:34.050 --> 00:42:36.150
for my development to be put into that role and

00:42:36.150 --> 00:42:41.480
I definitely think that she should travel that's

00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:44.420
just me if you had somebody at usa volleyball

00:42:44.420 --> 00:42:49.079
who was looking out for the program past 2028

00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:52.880
like somebody who could make decisions that person

00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:54.699
would be the person to go you're taking this

00:42:54.699 --> 00:42:58.980
player make a spot i don't care what else sullivan

00:42:58.980 --> 00:43:01.440
needs to win games he needs to get his current

00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:04.340
roster going he's not thinking about Anything

00:43:04.340 --> 00:43:06.820
else? This is a long -term play for somebody

00:43:06.820 --> 00:43:08.539
who you believe will be important. Yeah, but

00:43:08.539 --> 00:43:11.000
it's not like he's emptying the bench anyway.

00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:14.599
You know what? He should, but he won't because

00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:17.860
there's too many Texas athletes that need to

00:43:17.860 --> 00:43:21.920
be brought along. We can't help ourselves. Okay,

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question eight. They just announced the week

00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.099
two roster for the American women. No Cara Bajma

00:43:27.099 --> 00:43:30.739
slash Alec. I don't understand. Last season.

00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.800
She reported to the Turkish league five weeks

00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:37.860
late and she had the most block, the outside

00:43:37.860 --> 00:43:39.280
hitter with the most blocks at the end of the

00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.780
season. How can they ignore her and keep certain

00:43:42.780 --> 00:43:46.840
athletes on the roster? The only change we've

00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:50.780
seen from the Americans in week two is their

00:43:50.780 --> 00:43:54.159
middles and they've added a third setter in Jordan

00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.860
Poulter. That is literally the only change they've

00:43:56.860 --> 00:43:59.099
made. What do you think their reasoning is or

00:43:59.099 --> 00:44:02.250
their logic? I'm beginning to suspect that this

00:44:02.250 --> 00:44:05.389
is what the staff believes is going to be the

00:44:05.389 --> 00:44:08.449
final roster. Because they need to start gelling.

00:44:08.530 --> 00:44:12.670
They need to start winning. I think I was expecting

00:44:12.670 --> 00:44:16.590
to see a few other faces in week two. And the

00:44:16.590 --> 00:44:21.690
fact that we're not makes me believe that this,

00:44:21.889 --> 00:44:25.170
outside of one or two players, is going to be

00:44:25.170 --> 00:44:29.250
it. I think you're going to see Franklin. Come

00:44:29.250 --> 00:44:32.510
at some point? I don't know. I think maybe I

00:44:32.510 --> 00:44:34.309
might have heard whispers that she's injured.

00:44:34.449 --> 00:44:36.929
I don't know. But I did hear Elena Scott is injured.

00:44:37.130 --> 00:44:40.190
You know, outside of those injured players, you

00:44:40.190 --> 00:44:42.610
know, again, you're looking at Plummer's injured.

00:44:42.690 --> 00:44:45.349
If Franklin is injured, you know, those are potentially

00:44:45.349 --> 00:44:49.269
two left sides. I think they're dialing in on

00:44:49.269 --> 00:44:53.929
who they think they're going to want come. Peak

00:44:53.929 --> 00:44:56.849
competition time. So I'm not expecting to see

00:44:56.849 --> 00:44:58.869
many changes from here on out unless injured

00:44:58.869 --> 00:45:01.989
players get healthy. Question nine. What happens

00:45:01.989 --> 00:45:06.530
if the host nation places last after the preliminary

00:45:06.530 --> 00:45:10.809
phase? So we did do some research into this question.

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And it turns out if you host the final eight.

00:45:18.670 --> 00:45:21.889
Even if you finish 18th in the preliminary round,

00:45:21.949 --> 00:45:28.630
you cannot be relegated. Now, that is not specifically

00:45:28.630 --> 00:45:35.869
stated in the rules. So what I read was the teams

00:45:35.869 --> 00:45:39.769
that make the final eight finish one to eight

00:45:39.769 --> 00:45:43.150
in the tournament, regardless of what the record

00:45:43.150 --> 00:45:46.829
is. So China, no matter where they finish, cannot

00:45:46.829 --> 00:45:50.969
finish. worse than eighth and the relegation

00:45:50.969 --> 00:45:54.289
is not based off anything other than those tournament

00:45:54.289 --> 00:45:56.210
results like it has nothing to do with your overall

00:45:56.210 --> 00:45:59.130
ranking or record it's where you finish china

00:45:59.130 --> 00:46:02.070
as far as i could tell cannot and will not be

00:46:02.070 --> 00:46:04.489
relegated so it'll be if they were to finish

00:46:04.489 --> 00:46:07.809
last the 17th place team would end up how do

00:46:07.809 --> 00:46:10.150
you feel about that i'm honestly okay with it

00:46:10.150 --> 00:46:12.590
if you're gonna put the money in to host and

00:46:12.590 --> 00:46:15.110
you're gonna show up and you want to build your

00:46:15.110 --> 00:46:18.800
program I believe everybody has the same opportunity

00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:23.079
to host these events. And if China is going to

00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.059
put the money in and they're building their men's

00:46:25.059 --> 00:46:26.539
program. Now, I don't think they're going to

00:46:26.539 --> 00:46:29.320
finish last. They already beat one team. So they're

00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.699
ahead of. I mean, there's still a lot of games

00:46:31.699 --> 00:46:34.960
to be played. There are. But regardless, I'm

00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.139
OK with it. This is one of the avenues to build

00:46:37.139 --> 00:46:38.800
a team and a program. We know they're putting

00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:41.519
money in. They're competitive. So just to play.

00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:44.820
Like I my initial instinct was to answer the

00:46:44.820 --> 00:46:47.369
way you did, too. But you just think it's okay

00:46:47.369 --> 00:46:50.389
for teams to buy their way into, you know, when

00:46:50.389 --> 00:46:53.150
you put it that way, I don't love it as much,

00:46:53.250 --> 00:46:57.250
but you need teams to host and you need money

00:46:57.250 --> 00:46:59.670
to come in. And, you know, we had a question

00:46:59.670 --> 00:47:02.710
about teams being in Africa. This isn't a way

00:47:02.710 --> 00:47:04.369
for them to do that. If they're serious with

00:47:04.369 --> 00:47:06.530
it, like China is putting a serious amount of

00:47:06.530 --> 00:47:08.989
money in to host a pool play to post a final.

00:47:09.170 --> 00:47:11.050
They've brought a coach in their men's team is

00:47:11.050 --> 00:47:14.050
getting better. Like by all accounts. They are

00:47:14.050 --> 00:47:17.070
working on building a legitimate team. And if

00:47:17.070 --> 00:47:20.349
this helps and it furthers the game, it's hard

00:47:20.349 --> 00:47:22.429
to argue with it from a practical standpoint.

00:47:23.429 --> 00:47:26.150
Okay, last question. This one's right in Adam's

00:47:26.150 --> 00:47:29.630
wheelhouse. How does coaching women versus men

00:47:29.630 --> 00:47:32.929
at the highest level differ slash are similar?

00:47:33.489 --> 00:47:36.230
Karch was all about culture and community with

00:47:36.230 --> 00:47:38.110
the women, whereas with the men, it seems he

00:47:38.110 --> 00:47:41.239
lets them have more fire and personality. Obviously,

00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:43.559
both have to have the skill set to compete at

00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.760
the highest level. What skill sets, mindsets,

00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.559
and physical abilities matter most when coaching

00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:52.840
women versus men? I just sprung this one on him.

00:47:52.860 --> 00:47:55.079
He had no idea it was coming. Okay, so I'm going

00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:59.320
to go to culture first. And I think Karch's culture

00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:03.019
is probably the same for the men and women in

00:48:03.019 --> 00:48:06.960
terms of his expectation around practice habits.

00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:10.360
around excellence about expectations about how

00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:12.699
you conduct yourself i'm not sure the difference

00:48:12.699 --> 00:48:15.000
in demeanor between the men and the women would

00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.980
be his doing i think that might just be personality

00:48:17.980 --> 00:48:21.719
that would be my first but i think that you can

00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:26.000
still have a focus on culture and community while

00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:30.739
allowing people to be fiery i totally agree with

00:48:30.739 --> 00:48:32.739
that so i don't think they're mutually exclusive

00:48:32.739 --> 00:48:35.400
i agree so i mean i'm assuming this person is

00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:38.210
talking about like destiny hooker and logan tom

00:48:38.210 --> 00:48:42.530
being excluded that that would be my instinct

00:48:42.530 --> 00:48:45.789
and you know that could have been coach related

00:48:45.789 --> 00:48:49.269
they could have looked at okay taking those two

00:48:49.269 --> 00:48:52.690
individuals like generally speaking yeah what

00:48:52.690 --> 00:48:54.670
is the difference between coaching men and women

00:48:54.670 --> 00:49:00.389
from a training standpoint you have more ability

00:49:00.389 --> 00:49:03.449
to influence the game in terms of your systematic

00:49:03.449 --> 00:49:06.170
play on the women's side because you don't have

00:49:06.170 --> 00:49:11.369
quite so many athletes who can go off and just

00:49:11.369 --> 00:49:14.349
become unstoppable. Now, we are starting to see

00:49:14.349 --> 00:49:17.269
more of that on the women's side. So having your

00:49:17.269 --> 00:49:19.710
systems dialed in, knowing what adjustments to

00:49:19.710 --> 00:49:22.110
make, and your team all being on the same page

00:49:22.110 --> 00:49:24.510
in terms of how you're going to operate and defend

00:49:24.510 --> 00:49:27.289
different situations would be the first one that

00:49:27.289 --> 00:49:30.769
comes to mind. The second one, these are huge

00:49:30.769 --> 00:49:32.730
generalizations. Like a lot of times when you

00:49:32.730 --> 00:49:35.829
get to the highest levels, athletes are athletes

00:49:35.829 --> 00:49:39.309
and it doesn't really matter. But in general,

00:49:39.329 --> 00:49:45.269
how feedback is taken is different between men

00:49:45.269 --> 00:49:49.190
and women. And not to say one is right or one

00:49:49.190 --> 00:49:52.309
is wrong, but you have to know your athletes

00:49:52.309 --> 00:49:55.860
and how they receive feedback. And whether that

00:49:55.860 --> 00:49:57.860
feedback is going to help them or hurt them or

00:49:57.860 --> 00:50:00.039
put them in the tank. In my experience, you have

00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.019
to know your athlete on the women's side a little

00:50:02.019 --> 00:50:04.360
bit more in terms of how they respond to feedback.

00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.440
And most of the time, men receive feedback in

00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.239
a very similar manner. That has been my experience.

00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:12.820
Would you agree with that? I would say, yeah,

00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:16.099
I agree with that because, and again, this is

00:50:16.099 --> 00:50:18.360
a huge generalization, but women's tendencies

00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:21.539
is to feel, always think that they're not good

00:50:21.539 --> 00:50:25.420
enough. And men... tend to always think they're

00:50:25.420 --> 00:50:29.500
better than they are. And again, huge generalization,

00:50:29.500 --> 00:50:32.880
but I think because women tend to think they're

00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.199
worse than they are or to hear the negative in

00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:40.280
feedback more than the positive, it does need

00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.460
to be reworked a little bit. I think for men,

00:50:42.539 --> 00:50:45.920
you can be much more honest because, not honest,

00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:49.239
but like a little less filtered or guarded in

00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:53.679
how you deliver information because a man's default

00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:57.679
typically is to have to be like brought back

00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.639
down to earth in my experience I think that's

00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:02.780
totally fair but anything in terms of culture

00:51:02.780 --> 00:51:05.219
preparation all of that kind of stuff I think

00:51:05.219 --> 00:51:08.639
is the same across genders at least I've seen

00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:12.159
very similar things like Bernardo coaching a

00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:13.940
women's club team and coaching the men's national

00:51:13.940 --> 00:51:16.880
team like his approach is generally the same

00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.239
in how he does that so I don't think those things

00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.789
change between genders But I think a man coaching

00:51:22.789 --> 00:51:26.710
a women versus a man coaching men, there is inherent

00:51:26.710 --> 00:51:32.570
differences. Like a man can go be rowy with men.

00:51:32.949 --> 00:51:35.909
But if he attempted that with women, that would

00:51:35.909 --> 00:51:38.809
kind of be crossing a line and inappropriate.

00:51:39.090 --> 00:51:43.630
So there's definite just, yeah, things like that

00:51:43.630 --> 00:51:47.489
I think need to be considered. True. As always,

00:51:47.550 --> 00:51:52.059
we love your questions. Keep them coming. As

00:51:52.059 --> 00:51:54.920
V &amp;L unfolds, it's been really interesting to

00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:57.420
read comments and get the questions and stuff.

00:51:57.780 --> 00:52:01.480
We had a ton of comments on the YouTube channel

00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:05.500
this week and I laughed out loud with a lot of

00:52:05.500 --> 00:52:08.099
them. So keep those coming. I'm reading them

00:52:08.099 --> 00:52:11.119
and loving them and responding as soon as I can

00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:13.619
find them. So thank you to everybody who took

00:52:13.619 --> 00:52:15.519
the time to write in. It's greatly appreciated

00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:18.389
and enjoyed. All right, so looking forward, obviously,

00:52:18.389 --> 00:52:20.690
we have VNL coming up this week on the women's

00:52:20.690 --> 00:52:22.849
side. A couple of matches of note here. We have

00:52:22.849 --> 00:52:26.230
Thursday at 4 a .m. Eastern, Czech versus USA.

00:52:26.829 --> 00:52:30.670
Czech was outstanding in the first week of VNL,

00:52:30.769 --> 00:52:33.829
so that will be a very interesting match. Saturday

00:52:33.829 --> 00:52:37.949
at 9 a .m. Eastern, China versus Brazil. We'll

00:52:37.949 --> 00:52:40.349
see. I'm curious to see which squad China has

00:52:40.349 --> 00:52:42.489
here this week. They were very young last week

00:52:42.489 --> 00:52:46.340
and inexperienced, so we'll see. And Sunday at

00:52:46.340 --> 00:52:50.300
8 a .m. Eastern, Japan versus Italy. And again,

00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:54.219
curious to see which Italy team is there. And

00:52:54.219 --> 00:52:56.780
that game is always good between those two countries.

00:52:57.480 --> 00:52:59.599
It's a rough week for North American viewers.

00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:04.260
We got Ankara, the Philippines, and Thailand.

00:53:05.630 --> 00:53:09.510
Hence the super early morning wake -ups. So not

00:53:09.510 --> 00:53:12.949
the best week if you are hoping to watch live

00:53:12.949 --> 00:53:15.489
as a North American, but if you're in Asia and

00:53:15.489 --> 00:53:18.510
Europe, you're living your best life. So lots

00:53:18.510 --> 00:53:20.530
of replays going to be watched in this household.

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That concludes this week's episode of Volley

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