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Hi, volleyball fans, and welcome back to Volley

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Talk, the podcast created for volleyball lovers

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who want to dig deep into what is going on in

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NCAA and international volleyball. I'm your host,

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Sarah Pavan. I'm an Olympian, beach volleyball

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world champion, former Nebraska Cornhusker, and

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longtime pro, both indoor and on the beach. And

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I'm Adam Schultz, former indoor player, international

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volleyball coach, and the show's resident stat

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guy. So, Champions League playoffs. Italian women's

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playoffs. Playoffs everywhere. All the leagues.

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But we watch playoffs. We watch playoffs. There's

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no competing with the intensity, the execution,

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the just dire need to win or you go home. I mean,

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there's some whack stuff going on in some of

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the leagues. True. That we will briefly talk

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about. Full disclosure, we watched playoffs.

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We watched a lot of Italian and Champions League

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this week. And we did some research based on

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our listeners' feedback. We're excited to dive

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in. We're going to talk about a lot of stuff.

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So let's get started. All right, you know what

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time it is. Was your fantasy highlighter happening?

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What's below happening? R .I .P. Not the best.

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I had four bench players count for me. My middles

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and my setters right up the middle of the court

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screwed me. It was not great. You know it's bad

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when four of my bench players get the call up

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for their points, okay? I know it's going to

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be a bad week when that happens. Although Kylie

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Murr was on my bench and she scored me over 50

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points as a libero. Okay. And Mimi Collier held

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it down for me. She was not a bencher for me.

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She was straight up starting. You know who really

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screwed me over this week? Brie Kelly. Yeah.

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This girl's starting all these matches. She's

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doing great. Her points are on the climb. I'm

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like, yeah, baby, here we go. What does she decide

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to do? Nine points. And you know who got me negative

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points but was subbed out, thankfully? Azani

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Teeler. Bree Kelly, Kaz Brown, Rakochevich. Like,

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not great. It was just not good. And I took a

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risk with the setter, but it looks like... Looks

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like Shampoo's back. I picked Pukas, too. Got

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me 70 points last week. I thought I was being

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sneaky. You know what? I'm kind of out of the

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running after my week of zero. So my goal was

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to try and be in the top 75 every week moving

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forward, like just on a week -to -week basis.

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What's your ranking? 178. I mean, you got the

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last two numbers are close. No, no, I'm saying

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weekly I'd like to compete at 75. Thank you for

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that. Wait, what? Like you want to be in the

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top? Every week. I'm looking at it week by week

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how I do compared to everybody else. Oh, no,

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no, no. We need to look overall. So what were

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you this week then? Overall? No, week by week.

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You're 178th this week? No, I'm 178th overall

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in the league. I was 270 this week. I had an

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awful week. Not even close. Awful week, no. I

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set a goal. I was not close to my goal. I'm in

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the 90s overall. I don't look week by week. I'm

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looking big picture here. It's like win it all

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or forget about it. I'm not going into a full

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rebuild. I'm not winning at all. But I'm looking

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for a retooling on the fly. So we'll see what

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this next week looks like. Had some people talking

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smack on the message board this week. I loved

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it. Keep it coming. The problem is we can't.

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Tallahassee Turtles is still winning. I'm upset.

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I'm just kidding. Somebody asked what our names

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were so they could compare to us. You're probably

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beating us, but mine is Schultz. Mine's Volley

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Talk SP. I kept it simple. Identifiable. If you

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want to scroll down the league to find us and

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see if you're beating us, that's what you're

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looking for. You know what, every week I still

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have hope that I'm going to climb, and I'm not.

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But you've got to have hope. So all I can do

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now is banter with people on the message boards.

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One step at a time. Keep hoping that everyone

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will forget the deadline so I can get points

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and they don't. We also had Big Paul sign up.

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People have been asking for him to have an episode.

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My dad signed up. And we will be having Paul

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back on the podcast. We are heading back to Canada

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in about a month. And we will have him on one

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of those episodes because he'll be around. So

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stay tuned for that. Keep it up, everybody. I'm

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happy for all of you who are doing great. Kind

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of. But join us if you haven't. Play volley .com

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slash volley talk. Play volley .com slash volley

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talk. We're well over 400 teams now. It's very

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exciting. All right. NCAA men. Noteworthy results.

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Not a bunch of upsets, but we had some good matchups.

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I would say the marquee upset of the week was

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Vanguard beat number nine UC San Diego in five.

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That is going to hurt them. But UC San Diego

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beat them a couple days later. Again, it doesn't

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matter. Losing to an unranked team when you're

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top ten, not good. Beating them a few days later

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is good for morale. Not great for the ranking.

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They're falling out of the top ten. Totally.

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We also had number 15, Lewis, beat number 13,

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Ohio State, in three. I mean, that one I expected

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it to be close. But that's a bit of a statement.

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When you can beat somebody close to you in three,

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you're kind of letting them know or putting them

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on notice. So maybe they'll flip -flop positions

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or something. Number three, Hawaii, and number

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six, BYU, had a series, and Hawaii absolutely

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shellacked them. In four and in three. That's

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not surprising. Hawaii is just a better team.

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We had another really big matchup. UCLA versus

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UC Irvine. UCLA won that one in five. I was a

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little surprised it went to five. I believe they

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may have been playing in Irvine. Don't quote

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me on that. That's a Monday, Tuesday meeting

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game watch. I'm going to go back and watch that

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one. So UCLA keeps solidifying themselves as

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the team to beat this season. Will they be able

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to hold on for the entirety of the season? They've

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got USC coming up this week. They still have

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Pepperdine. They've got BYU. It's like they've

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still got some good teams in front of them, but

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undefeated so far. Okay, MLB, listen to this.

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So Indy has just solidified themselves as the

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top team right now. They're at 12 -2. Nobody

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is even close. No. The wild thing about the league

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right now, there are only two teams in the whole

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league with winning records. Can you believe

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that? No. It shouldn't be possible. That is insane.

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Two teams have winning records, two teams are

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at 500, and half the league has a losing record.

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You guys, like that's crazy to me. Yeah. That

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only two teams have winning records. So those

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teams are obviously Indy and then Dallas is at

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nine and five. Orlando's at seven and seven.

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Two of the losing record teams are Omaha and

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Atlanta. Which I did not see happening. And get

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this. San Diego is in fourth, everybody. I mean,

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we thought that San Diego would be. Like seventh.

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Yes. When we predicted at the beginning of the

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season, I believe we had them at seventh. And

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they were bottom feeders for like 10 matches.

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I honestly don't know how they're doing it. Like,

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Brokojevic is not playing well. And I know that

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because she's not scoring many fantasy points.

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I don't know how they're winning matches, to

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be honest. Well, we stopped watching them after

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the first few weeks. It was horrendous. Because

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I'm like, this is a dumpster fire. I was like,

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I can't watch this anymore. And now they're like,

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here we are. And that's the thing about picking

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what games to watch is there's so much to choose

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from that if you're not, you know, some of the

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teams we need to watch, like we wanted to watch

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Madison, see what's going on. We wanted to watch

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Nebraska. You watch a couple of those matches.

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But if it's not holding your attention, like

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there's, you're going to flip to something else

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because there's so much. We gave them a lot of

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chances, honestly. Might need to go back because

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I don't know how they're doing it. It's a big

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turnaround. There and forth. That's wild. Who

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would have thought that Omaha and Atlanta would

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have losing records right now? I mean, we're

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almost exactly halfway through the season. There's

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no reason for either of those teams to be doing

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as poorly as they are. Omaha has probably the

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best roster on paper. We were talking about that

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during the offseason, how they were just like...

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buying all these people and then like kind of

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from what we heard we're not saying that this

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is actually fact heard that they were using their

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sponsors to buy the most expensive players as

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well because that's the loophole around the calorie

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salary cap and here they are just like but this

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comes back to conversations we've had where it's

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about The team, like you have to be thoughtful

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about how you make your roster. Just buying the

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best athlete in each position doesn't guarantee

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you success. There needs to be team chemistry.

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There needs to be a goal. Look, they were forced

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from all accounts to trade the national team

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libero because she wasn't happy with what's going

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on. Now that we don't know exactly why that is.

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We don't know exactly why she wanted to be traded,

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to be fair. No, but still, when you have to trade

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away a player, of that caliber who is starting

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there's something a bad season sure there's there's

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something going on there because it should not

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be like this wild stuff also i'm curious how

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long the staff at atlanta is going to be sticking

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around because i would say they're severely underperforming

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as well yeah it will depend on what the other

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options are like bandwidth has a good resume

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she's In the volleyball world, I don't know how

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much that buys you. One bad season, I'm not sure.

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But also the bird, the woman who was coaching

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Omaha the first two seasons when they did really

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well is the manager or whatever for Atlanta now.

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Do you think she's going to step down and start

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coaching? Maybe. Or do both? I wouldn't be surprised.

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It's definitely possible. So anyway, yeah, Indy's

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rolling. Again, another question of will they

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be able to maintain this and finish the season

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that way? We'll see. MLB's been interesting,

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though. All right. Love. Salt Lake is still in

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first place, but they have lost three matches

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in a row. Now, in fairness, Poulter and Gray

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have been out. Yeah. And I mean, in the last

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match they played versus Atlanta, neither Poulter

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nor Gray played. Yeah. I honestly haven't watched

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them this week, so I don't know if those two

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played in the match before or whatever, but yeah,

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they've lost three in a row. I think Gray's the

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bigger loss because Buggs should be able to run

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that offense well enough for them to keep going.

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Now, maybe Casanova doesn't have the same connection

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with her. Gray is probably one of their best

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players, if not their best player. We'll see

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when they come back. I'm not worried yet. Something

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to keep your eye on. because we don't know the

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nature of the injury. We don't know how long

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they'll be out. They need gray back for sure

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as soon as possible. And Atlanta's won four matches

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in a row, so they're coming on strong. I mean,

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we knew that they would be good. Did we? They

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were good last year. Yeah, last year. Watching

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them this year, I haven't loved it. No, but roster

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-wise, they're very similar to last year. They

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played well. I think it's settling out. I mean,

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I think we thought Omaha and I think we thought

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Madison would be better than they were. I don't

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think I didn't envision Houston being quite this

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good. Like they've really come on and won matches

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in the last little while. No, at the beginning

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of the season, we expected Houston to be really

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good. And then they started terribly, but they've

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gotten a lot better. We did watch Nebraska -Houston

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this week. Yeah, that one, reverse sweep. Reverse

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sweep. I don't even know how to explain. that

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match it felt to me like the match was determined

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on errors there were there weren't a lot of terminal

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swings and again it's five sets people scored

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points don't get me wrong but it seemed like

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rallies rallies rallies hit out of bounds or

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miss or it wasn't it didn't feel like there was

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a lot of earning points it was like rallies were

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ending or plays were ending on errors eye test

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not backed up by stats but that's how it felt

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watching the match I'm still shocked that Nebraska's

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not using Kettle more. I know she has an ankle

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injury. Maybe that is holding her back. But you

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cannot honestly tell me that she shouldn't be

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on the court. I mean, I agree with you. In fairness,

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in this match in particular, I thought Thader

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was the difference. No, the two middles they

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have on are playing well. But are they Kettle's

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level? Kettle is your long -term solution. Like

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she needs to be playing. I thought Jordan Thompson

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played well for Houston. I agree. I also thought

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Jordan Larson played well. Oh my God. Jordan

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Larson was like scoring at will. It was insane.

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Yeah. I don't, I haven't seen her play like that

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this season. I don't think it was. Yeah. Jordan

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Larson as well. And then like the stare downs

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that Thompson was giving Larson. I'm like, I

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mean, we all know that I am for a stare down.

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I love them. Absolutely. But I was just confused

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of why they were directed to Jordan Larson of

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all people. If you look at the two people who

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you thought would have gotten a stare down in

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that match, I think those two players would be

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at the bottom. No, I don't think Jordan was staring

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anybody down. Larson. Happening between two players.

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Yeah. I think it's great for love. We need to

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see the players care, get fired up, want to win.

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Like, I love that for Jordan Thompson. And I

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think. If you're coming for that spot and you

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want people to take you not seriously, but know

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that you're, yeah, like get after it. I loved

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it. No. And that's been one of our major criticisms

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of love is it always feels like an exhibition

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game where everybody's just like friends with

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each other and having fun. Like I'm not, I like,

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I'll reiterate, I'm not opposed to a stare down.

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I'm just saying I was confused of why it was

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directed to who it was. Totally. But I think

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we also have to just clear. a little something

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up here. I received so many messages this week

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about why do you guys hate Jordan Thompson? Why

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do you think she's not good? Like all this stuff.

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And I'm like, first of all, listen to the words

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we are saying, please, because we did not say

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that. We, what was said was Jordan Thompson is.

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Among our picks of who will be an opposite for

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Team USA. She's taken two seasons off of playing

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overseas. She's played domestically for two seasons

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and a season off of international. So it will

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be interesting to see how long it takes her to

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readjust to that level of play. That's what we

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said. Yeah. And I think I said she still needs

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to prove herself because two years can be a long

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time compared to the other international right

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sides, not the American right sides. So, yeah.

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Thank you to everybody who didn't listen but

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wanted to share that because, yeah, we said that.

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And I don't think she's committed to the national

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team yet. I don't know. She still has to decide

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whether that's something she wants to do. So

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we'll see. Playoffs are happening in Italy. On

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the women's side, Corneliano won the regular

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season. Quarters and semis are best of three.

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Finals, best of five. So Corneliano's playing

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Bustor Ciccio. If you follow NCAA women's volleyball,

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Melanie Parra and Carter Booth are playing for

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that team. Scandici's playing Bergamo. And all

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of our Kendall Kipp fans probably know that she

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plays for Bergamo. We watched that game. Milano

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is playing Vallefoglia and Novar is playing Chieri.

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We wanted to do our due diligence here because

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so many questions about Kendall Kipp, as we talked

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about last week, we admitted that we weren't

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too familiar with her. So we watched the Scandici

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-Bergamo match this week. What were your thoughts

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on Kendall Kipp? So I'm going to preface this

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by saying, again, it was one match that we watched.

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However, she was more physical than I thought

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she would be. which is positive I thought she

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hit the ball down the line really well I didn't

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see her attack cross court very much and when

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she did there wasn't a ton of power on that so

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something to pay attention to something she would

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need to be able to do to play internationally

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I didn't think the Bergamo setter was particularly

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consistent so I saw her hit the meat of the block

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a bunch of times hard to say whether that was

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setting whether that was inconsistency because

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there were a couple times where she went into

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the seam high and those were good swings so I

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mean definitely good things I would say initial

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assessment is she definitely deserves to be in

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the mix she definitely deserves to play VNL have

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a shot see what it's like on the team to me her

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performance put her in the mix what else did

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you see yeah I mean I definitely think that she

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needs to be considered I think she is better

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than some of the options we saw on the right

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side last international season agreed I think

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she has a better serve than all of the right

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sides we saw last international season I thought

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she defensively she dug heat well not mobile

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on tips really uh blocking she put up a decent

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block I agree I mean she predominantly hit line

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she or line seam she wasn't creating any angles

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really yeah and the worrisome part is if you

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have time to game plan for her like a really

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good libero will probably dig that line shot

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you slide six over and now you have to find different

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ways to score like can you do it that's that's

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the question I mean, I was concerned about the

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height that she hits the ball over the net. There

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were, there were some where she was hitting really

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high and I agree the setter, they might have

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had to do with the setting. I don't know. I'll

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have to see her in more situations, but for her

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size, I was a little surprised at how low to

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the net she was hitting some balls, but yeah,

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for sure should be in the conversation should

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like be on a VNL travel roster for sure. But,

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yeah, I'll want to see her play more. Scandici,

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I don't know if they were resting players or

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if players are injured or what. Skinner has to

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be injured because she didn't play. She didn't

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play Champions League or this match. Konjanovic

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played Champions League, didn't play this match.

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But it very well pushed them to five. Had some

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match points. Wild because they were down big

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in the set that they won at the beginning. Like,

00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:08.079
that shouldn't have been close. Scandici's a

00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:11.319
better team. Oh, Scandici is a much better team.

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Bergamo's no slouch, but it's just like the A1

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players versus A2, as you usually call them.

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I think that Scandici should win the next match

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handily. Probably in three. It was exciting just

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as far as the back and forth and the result goes,

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but I don't think it should have been that close.

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Agreed. On the men's side, Perugia won the regular

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season. So they're playing Monza. Verona finished

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second. They're playing Milano. Then we've got

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Trentino versus Civitanova and Modena versus

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Piacenza. Finally, I told you there was a lot

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of playoffs happening. Champions League. The

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quarterfinals are set. Milano's playing Vacavbank.

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They beat Olympiacos in the home and away. Zarin

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Ankara is playing Conigliano. Zarin beat Schwerin

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from Germany in both the home and away. And then

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Azazibachi is playing Reshov. That was already

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predetermined. And then Benerbachi is playing

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Scandici. Scandici beat Novara, but it did go

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to a golden set. So last week, Novara beat Scandici

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3 -1. And so if you remember... Our discussions

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about Champions League, if you win in three or

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four, that's three points. If you win in five,

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that's two. Lose in five, that's one. So because

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Navarro won in four, they got three points. They

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just needed to push the match to five because

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if they lost in five, they would win the head

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-to -head four to two. Navarro wins the first

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set in Scandici. They needed to win one more

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set. Couldn't do it. They could not do it. Scandici

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won the next three. Okay. Which was very exciting.

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This is so reminiscent of the Fenerbahce back

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of bank series last year. So it goes to a golden

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set and Scandici squeaks it out. Novara gave

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it away. You guys like the drama in this match

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was. top -notch like novaro had a hefty lead

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yes in what set three or four yeah and and dc

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just found a way i'm it was so fun to watch honestly

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one of the better matches from a pure entertainment

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standpoint that i've seen in a long time just

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because the drama was So apparent. Novara's up.

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They don't even need to win the match. They just

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need to win another set. They're playing well.

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Then they pucker. Scandici is trying. They can't

00:22:55.390 --> 00:22:57.549
seem to get it together. Well, they had Ruddins

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on the left side starting because Skinner didn't

00:23:00.650 --> 00:23:04.690
play. Ruddins usually comes in as a dub sub or

00:23:04.690 --> 00:23:07.309
as a replacement for Entropova every now and

00:23:07.309 --> 00:23:10.869
then. But Ruddins started on the left. And actually

00:23:10.869 --> 00:23:13.470
played really well. Until she got used twice.

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And then she was like swinging pretty neutral.

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Franklin had a really good week. But Franklin

00:23:19.809 --> 00:23:23.390
came in for Ruddens. Yes. And then she played

00:23:23.390 --> 00:23:25.430
really well. Played really well against Bergamo

00:23:25.430 --> 00:23:30.849
too. But dang. That was really good. Pure theater.

00:23:31.210 --> 00:23:34.309
Really good. On the men's side, the playoffs

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are happening this week. So we got Warsaw versus

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Trentino. Las Palmas versus Montpellier. And

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Reshov versus Rosalar from Belgium. Now, are

00:23:45.089 --> 00:23:46.630
those straight quarters or those the play -in

00:23:46.630 --> 00:23:48.829
matches? Those are the play -in matches. Okay.

00:23:48.910 --> 00:23:50.630
That's what I thought. Those are the matches

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to go to the quarters. So, again, lots of stuff

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happening. There were so many good matches this

00:24:00.390 --> 00:24:03.230
week. Again, we focused predominantly on the

00:24:03.230 --> 00:24:08.029
overseas side watching, and it was well worth

00:24:08.029 --> 00:24:10.269
it, everybody. I mean, we're going to watch a

00:24:10.269 --> 00:24:12.500
lot of. overseas volleyball in the next couple

00:24:12.500 --> 00:24:14.559
weeks because Champions League there's just nothing

00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:17.400
like it it's so good it's so entertaining the

00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.940
Italian finals are so so good the volleyball

00:24:19.940 --> 00:24:22.500
is amazing it's the coaches are fiery the players

00:24:22.500 --> 00:24:24.880
are fiery everybody wants to win and I love when

00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.700
a coach wears a suit okay thank you so much to

00:24:27.700 --> 00:24:30.940
the Italian League I love a coach in a suit if

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you remember a couple weeks ago we talked about

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the new rules that were posted about being tested

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in VNL from On the FIVB side. And how the FIVB

00:24:44.250 --> 00:24:47.309
kind of rolled it back, walked it back a little

00:24:47.309 --> 00:24:50.750
bit, and were like, wait a minute, no. So they

00:24:50.750 --> 00:24:54.750
officially posted their rules that are going

00:24:54.750 --> 00:24:59.789
to be in the VNO. So here they are. Let me know

00:24:59.789 --> 00:25:02.410
your thoughts. The push, carry, catch, throw,

00:25:02.430 --> 00:25:06.829
tip attack. This is what they called it. So,

00:25:06.890 --> 00:25:09.470
the ball must not be caught or thrown. Attack

00:25:09.470 --> 00:25:12.890
actions involving changes of direction, two -hand

00:25:12.890 --> 00:25:17.410
attacks, pushes, open -hand block outs, and carries

00:25:17.410 --> 00:25:20.269
will not be permitted. Only the action of tipping

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the ball with a very short contact will be allowed.

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Thank goodness. Honestly, I like this one. Me

00:25:25.269 --> 00:25:28.549
too. Okay, sorry. I asked you to tell what you

00:25:28.549 --> 00:25:32.210
thought, and I'm like, step back. Okay, go. I

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hate the... little volley rotation over or the

00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:39.980
push from high it's you're doing it because you're

00:25:39.980 --> 00:25:42.720
out of position or the set's not where you want

00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:47.400
it it it allows sloppy execution and you know

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what if you can't execute the speed that you're

00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:52.420
trying to run you should suffer for it and I

00:25:52.420 --> 00:25:57.000
think I'm all for this rule I love it I am relieved

00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.200
that this rule like I have hated gross it's gross

00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.920
I have hated watching These throw tips. I have

00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:08.960
hated watching these, like, double -hand set

00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:13.420
attacks. Like, somebody hit a ball. Okay? Hit

00:26:13.420 --> 00:26:16.980
a ball. I'm sick of seeing all this weird stuff

00:26:16.980 --> 00:26:21.079
going on, so I am a huge fan of this one. Next.

00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:25.000
In FIVB competitions, teams may register 12 to

00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:27.460
14 players. Each roster must include at least

00:26:27.460 --> 00:26:31.160
one libero. Teams may choose to nominate two

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liberos from their registered roster and have

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up to an hour before the match to do this. Fine.

00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:39.799
Yeah, that's fine. Mid -rally challenge bookmark.

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Teams may mark any action during a rally that

00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:44.700
could potentially be challenged at its conclusion.

00:26:44.819 --> 00:26:47.420
At the end of the rally, if the team loses the

00:26:47.420 --> 00:26:50.180
rally, it can pursue only one of the challenges

00:26:50.180 --> 00:26:53.720
they've identified. A mid -rally action cannot

00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:58.240
be challenged without a bookmark. If both teams

00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.559
bookmark actions in the same rally, the sequence

00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:03.059
will be reviewed and the first fault observed

00:27:03.059 --> 00:27:06.140
will prevail. The bookmarking system must be

00:27:06.140 --> 00:27:08.900
linked to the start rally button to allow faster

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rewind. Okay. I like this. We talked about this

00:27:13.259 --> 00:27:16.759
being, hey, you need to know what you're challenging.

00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:21.119
And I wholeheartedly agree. Now, I did have somebody

00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.900
reach out to me and say, why wouldn't you want

00:27:23.900 --> 00:27:27.009
the correct call? So if you challenge it and

00:27:27.009 --> 00:27:29.089
they look through the play and they see it, why

00:27:29.089 --> 00:27:31.630
are you against them getting the call right?

00:27:31.710 --> 00:27:35.230
And I'm not. I would like the call to be correct,

00:27:35.329 --> 00:27:38.069
and I have no problem with that. What I do have

00:27:38.069 --> 00:27:40.230
a problem with is people just throwing up the

00:27:40.230 --> 00:27:43.690
challenge flag on a long rally, hoping they're

00:27:43.690 --> 00:27:45.529
going to see a net touch or see something like

00:27:45.529 --> 00:27:48.029
that. It slows the game down. You don't actually

00:27:48.029 --> 00:27:50.609
think anything is wrong. And the referees have

00:27:50.609 --> 00:27:53.519
the ability to call their own challenges. You

00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.759
know, 99 % of the calls are going to end up being

00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:58.700
right if you haven't blown your challenge. So

00:27:58.700 --> 00:28:01.640
knowing specifically what you're trying to challenge,

00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:04.599
I think improves the system greatly. Well, and

00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:08.400
I think I agree. I want the call to be right.

00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:13.309
But if you're challenging the wrong thing. but

00:28:13.309 --> 00:28:15.890
they end up noticing that you should have gotten

00:28:15.890 --> 00:28:17.789
the point anyway, I think you should lose your

00:28:17.789 --> 00:28:19.809
challenge. You can still get the point. Yeah,

00:28:19.809 --> 00:28:21.789
agreed. But I think you should lose the challenge

00:28:21.789 --> 00:28:25.170
because you didn't challenge the right thing.

00:28:25.390 --> 00:28:28.529
So honestly, I am totally fine with this mid

00:28:28.529 --> 00:28:31.509
-rally challenge thing. Next one is double contact

00:28:31.509 --> 00:28:34.799
interpretation. Double contact during the setting

00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.700
action will continue to be allowed, provided

00:28:37.700 --> 00:28:39.900
the ball remains on the same side of the court.

00:28:40.099 --> 00:28:42.079
Yeah, I'm fine. If your setter is doubling the

00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:46.259
ball, you're in trouble. And you don't, you know,

00:28:46.259 --> 00:28:48.799
put the free ball over, continue the rally. There's

00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.480
no reason to blow that dead. I'm fine with this.

00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:54.099
Yeah. Ball contacting the ceiling. If the first

00:28:54.099 --> 00:28:58.500
or second contact hits the ceiling and continues

00:28:58.500 --> 00:29:01.059
on the same side of the net. The rally continues.

00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:03.180
If the ball hits the ceiling and goes to the

00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:06.359
other side, it will be ruled a fault. Contact

00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:08.740
with the spider cam or crane cam inside the field

00:29:08.740 --> 00:29:10.859
of play will continue to result in a replay.

00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.920
Okay, fine. Honestly, if you are going to rocket

00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.140
a ball up to the ceiling of some of these places,

00:29:19.420 --> 00:29:22.440
like, good luck. Like, if your ball control is

00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.440
that horrendous, we've got issues. This is a

00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:29.079
de minimis rule. Out of rotation, error -free

00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.500
positioning. The receiving team must be in correct

00:29:32.500 --> 00:29:35.319
rotational order at the referee's whistle, but

00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:38.079
can move once the serving action is initiated.

00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.660
Players may leave their correct rotation or lineup

00:29:41.660 --> 00:29:45.240
position at the moment the server's motion begins,

00:29:45.500 --> 00:29:49.339
including a step or movement of the arms or legs

00:29:49.339 --> 00:29:51.519
in the first motion to serve. That's kind of

00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:53.240
what they were doing anyway, wasn't it? Yeah,

00:29:53.259 --> 00:29:55.980
I mean, I don't personally love it. I think you

00:29:55.980 --> 00:29:58.390
should have to... pass where you are I think

00:29:58.390 --> 00:30:01.569
it creates more tactical advantages more serving

00:30:01.569 --> 00:30:04.529
options but at the end of the day it improves

00:30:04.529 --> 00:30:07.450
potentially the service reception you get better

00:30:07.450 --> 00:30:10.650
rallies and those kind of things better passes

00:30:10.650 --> 00:30:14.549
so I'm on the fence with this one I personally

00:30:14.549 --> 00:30:18.109
am like 45 % don't love it but don't really care

00:30:18.109 --> 00:30:21.250
I feel like the only way the way teams have been

00:30:21.250 --> 00:30:23.480
using it that we've seen is just like Having

00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:26.200
hitters move into their attacking positions faster.

00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.819
Hitters and setters moving early, I don't care.

00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:32.640
It's the passing thing that I kind of don't like.

00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:35.119
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the passing implication

00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:38.519
either, but coach to speak to the first referee.

00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.279
The head coach may approach and speak to the

00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.900
first referee to clarify or confirm the type

00:30:43.900 --> 00:30:46.039
of challenge requested or to seek clarification

00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:49.420
regarding a call. Complaints and protests remain

00:30:49.420 --> 00:30:52.529
prohibited. That's fine, but I think the picture

00:30:52.529 --> 00:30:55.890
they chose for this one is really funny. We are

00:30:55.890 --> 00:30:58.630
going to pick the one person who always stops.

00:30:59.789 --> 00:31:01.569
Touches and defense and serve receive touches

00:31:01.569 --> 00:31:05.109
will be included in the challenge regulations.

00:31:05.289 --> 00:31:07.750
A clear and visible contact must be shown on

00:31:07.750 --> 00:31:10.109
video to overturn the original decision. Yeah,

00:31:10.170 --> 00:31:13.450
that's fine. Reduce breaks after the result of

00:31:13.450 --> 00:31:15.730
a challenge. The team that requested the challenge

00:31:15.730 --> 00:31:18.730
may not request a timeout. The team that did

00:31:18.730 --> 00:31:21.910
not challenge can call a timeout. I like this.

00:31:22.069 --> 00:31:25.410
Yep, totally fine. Warm -up protocol, a 90 -second

00:31:25.410 --> 00:31:27.869
separate serving warm -up period will be introduced

00:31:27.869 --> 00:31:30.089
to the warm -up protocol. Both teams will share

00:31:30.089 --> 00:31:33.230
the net for the attack portion, but for serving,

00:31:33.410 --> 00:31:36.049
Team A will have the first 90, followed by Team

00:31:36.049 --> 00:31:39.950
B for athlete safety. Whatever. I'm totally fine

00:31:39.950 --> 00:31:42.369
with that. The number of substitutions will be

00:31:42.369 --> 00:31:45.230
increased from six to eight. I'm kind of sad

00:31:45.230 --> 00:31:48.509
about this. I like the six substitutions. Everybody

00:31:48.509 --> 00:31:50.569
knows that I'm a volleyball purist. I'm like,

00:31:50.609 --> 00:31:52.269
everybody should be able to play six rotations.

00:31:52.410 --> 00:31:54.549
Like, let's keep it that way. One double sub.

00:31:55.009 --> 00:31:58.069
Be picky about who you have on the court. Like,

00:31:58.069 --> 00:32:00.650
I like the six substitution. It's just like survival

00:32:00.650 --> 00:32:04.000
of the fittest out there. I know, but. If you

00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.559
use the double sub, then you only have two other

00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.779
substitutions. What if you wanted to do a middle

00:32:09.779 --> 00:32:11.799
serving sub and change your left side for one

00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:13.640
rotation through the back row or something like

00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.839
that? I'm okay with this because it gives you

00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:19.019
a little more of a tactical advantage to do a

00:32:19.019 --> 00:32:21.839
couple different things for three rotations.

00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.380
My response to that is your middle should know

00:32:25.380 --> 00:32:28.039
how to serve, and we need six rotation players

00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:31.180
on the court. Last one. No whistle will be used

00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:33.980
for a ball landing clearly in or out, a serve

00:32:33.980 --> 00:32:36.240
not passing the net, or a clear block touch.

00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:38.720
Basically, they don't want to hear the whistles.

00:32:39.579 --> 00:32:44.599
Okay, fine. Notable miss rules are the insane

00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.059
libero rules that they were talking about. The

00:32:47.059 --> 00:32:49.460
libero serving and the libero being able to set

00:32:49.460 --> 00:32:52.980
in front of the 10 -foot line. Hallelujah. Okay,

00:32:53.019 --> 00:32:57.099
if that rule passed, I was going to just... Oh,

00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:01.720
you know what? 100%. The FIVB watched our podcast

00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.940
and were like, we need to listen to these idiots.

00:33:08.460 --> 00:33:11.019
But seriously, though, hallelujah that this little

00:33:11.019 --> 00:33:14.579
barrel roll is not going anywhere because I was

00:33:14.579 --> 00:33:17.380
about to lose it. We are going to call this segment

00:33:17.380 --> 00:33:23.420
Dub Sub. Okay, we got this question from a listener

00:33:23.420 --> 00:33:26.460
and I thought it was really interesting. So we're

00:33:26.460 --> 00:33:30.910
making it a segment. So the gist of the question

00:33:30.910 --> 00:33:35.869
is how would we rank each of the double subs

00:33:35.869 --> 00:33:40.049
that each love team has? I love this. Some teams

00:33:40.049 --> 00:33:43.049
at this point can't do a double sub because of

00:33:43.049 --> 00:33:46.230
injuries or whatever. And we're going to assume

00:33:46.230 --> 00:33:48.970
that we're going to use the double subs that

00:33:48.970 --> 00:33:50.930
we have seen. At the beginning of the season,

00:33:51.069 --> 00:33:53.529
this person laid them out for us. Yeah, we're

00:33:53.529 --> 00:33:55.950
going to go through the double subs that each

00:33:55.950 --> 00:34:01.049
love team has and rank them. The double sub options

00:34:01.049 --> 00:34:07.150
we are looking at are Salt Lake using Bug and

00:34:07.150 --> 00:34:11.610
Skylar Fields. Houston using Maddie Wack and

00:34:11.610 --> 00:34:17.090
Logan Lednicki. Austin with Carly Lloyd and either

00:34:17.090 --> 00:34:20.900
Julian Fawcett or Cat Bell. Atlanta with Ella

00:34:20.900 --> 00:34:25.000
Mae Powell and Montano. Nebraska with Gabby Blossom

00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:28.559
and Adriana Fitzmaurice. And then Madison with

00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.780
Argentina Ung and whatever random pin they've

00:34:32.780 --> 00:34:35.780
got going on. That's what the person said, okay?

00:34:35.860 --> 00:34:38.760
I'm reading the question. Okay, so I know my

00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:40.940
bottom two. Who are your bottom two? Madison

00:34:40.940 --> 00:34:44.320
and then Nebraska. Madison and Nebraska. Okay.

00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.880
Madison bottom. Yeah. We don't even know. Madison

00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:49.599
bottom. What's going on? Okay. Why Nebraska?

00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.860
I just, I don't love Blossom as a setter. Why

00:34:52.860 --> 00:34:54.860
don't you love her? I mean, I know she's definitely

00:34:54.860 --> 00:34:57.340
not a front. She's definitely a dub sub setter.

00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.260
She's not playing front row. Yeah. I like the

00:35:00.260 --> 00:35:02.659
double sub last year. I know Fitzmaurice came

00:35:02.659 --> 00:35:04.239
in every now and then for the double sub, but

00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.369
when. The middle situation happened, and then

00:35:07.369 --> 00:35:08.889
they had Stiverins coming, and I thought that

00:35:08.889 --> 00:35:11.309
they did a good job together. Yeah. But this

00:35:11.309 --> 00:35:14.090
is this year, everybody. Again, which setter

00:35:14.090 --> 00:35:17.670
are you putting Blossom ahead of? I mean... Maybe

00:35:17.670 --> 00:35:19.929
Ella May Powell? I'm not a huge Ella May Powell

00:35:19.929 --> 00:35:24.849
fan, and I mean, Wack is fine. Yeah, but you

00:35:24.849 --> 00:35:26.489
have to... She's, like, very inexperienced. She's

00:35:26.489 --> 00:35:27.849
inexperienced, but you have to remember she's

00:35:27.849 --> 00:35:30.110
coming in and setting Lednicki. Exactly. She's

00:35:30.110 --> 00:35:31.170
not inexperienced with that. She loves to come

00:35:31.170 --> 00:35:32.929
in and set that first ball on the right side.

00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:36.519
And she runs the middle well. I think my two

00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:41.619
three would be the Nebraska and then the Ella

00:35:41.619 --> 00:35:45.420
Mae Powell Montano would be. Oh, but what one

00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:49.420
is worse? You think Nebraska's is worse? Which

00:35:49.420 --> 00:35:52.139
right side do you like better? Montano does a

00:35:52.139 --> 00:35:54.900
pretty good job. Okay. They're putting Madison

00:35:54.900 --> 00:35:56.940
at the bottom. We did have to think about that.

00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.820
Yeah. Madison at the bottom and then Nebraska

00:35:58.820 --> 00:36:03.329
and then Atlanta. Those are my bottom three.

00:36:04.429 --> 00:36:09.130
Honestly, okay, so top three. I've watched Salt

00:36:09.130 --> 00:36:12.949
Lake play a lot, and I haven't seen Fields and

00:36:12.949 --> 00:36:14.929
Bug come in together. Because, like, I've seen

00:36:14.929 --> 00:36:18.809
Bug set a 5 -1 when Alter hasn't been playing.

00:36:19.050 --> 00:36:22.869
But Casanova's been doing so good. I hate to

00:36:22.869 --> 00:36:26.050
say it, I might give the top spot to Wacklinicky,

00:36:26.170 --> 00:36:29.690
even though they're the more inexperienced group.

00:36:30.429 --> 00:36:33.230
So are you basing that off the fact that they

00:36:33.230 --> 00:36:37.269
don't use it in Salt Lake? Okay, we're doing

00:36:37.269 --> 00:36:40.590
hypotheticals here. Yeah, let's say Salt Lake

00:36:40.590 --> 00:36:42.989
wasn't having as great a season as they were

00:36:42.989 --> 00:36:45.469
and they had to use the double sub. Who would

00:36:45.469 --> 00:36:50.110
you rather have? Okay, Bokefields. Yeah, that's

00:36:50.110 --> 00:36:52.389
where I think I'm at the top. And then I think

00:36:52.389 --> 00:36:56.769
I have Wacken -Lednicki second, I think. Yeah.

00:36:57.420 --> 00:37:00.199
Because I like Lloyd. I don't know. They're just

00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.820
like. Fawcett, Catbell. Yeah. Like they're not

00:37:03.820 --> 00:37:06.139
like causing the team to bleed out or anything.

00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.500
No, no, no, no, no, no. But I'm not sure I take

00:37:08.500 --> 00:37:10.559
them over the other two. But I'm thinking like

00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.599
production. Like when Wacklednicki come in, they're

00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.659
turning a couple points. I agree with you. You

00:37:17.659 --> 00:37:20.420
know what I mean? Okay. I'm going to go. So is

00:37:20.420 --> 00:37:24.659
this what we're saying? Salt Lake, Houston, Austin.

00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.739
Atlanta, Nebraska, Madison. I think so. That's

00:37:28.739 --> 00:37:31.219
where I would have it. Okay. That's our pick.

00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:33.219
Let us know what you think. There's a second

00:37:33.219 --> 00:37:35.219
part to this question. Okay. Who would you say

00:37:35.219 --> 00:37:37.599
in the international game is the best dub sub?

00:37:37.980 --> 00:37:41.340
Italy. Okay. They knew you would say that. So

00:37:41.340 --> 00:37:45.059
they said, other than that. Oh, okay. Okay. Italy,

00:37:45.059 --> 00:37:48.639
hands down, best double sub. Obviously. Okay.

00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:51.599
This is hard. Yeah. I need to run through. Okay.

00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.400
Let's run through it. Who would Brazil's double

00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.380
sub be? Okay, depending on who they have that

00:37:57.380 --> 00:38:01.900
day setting, either Macris or Roberta. Okay.

00:38:02.019 --> 00:38:05.760
And then depending, so like if Anna Christina's

00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.019
playing, then they've got Bergman on the right

00:38:08.019 --> 00:38:10.500
side starting, so then Rosa Maria would be coming

00:38:10.500 --> 00:38:15.079
in as the dub sub. Or they've got, or Tainara

00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:17.039
coming in. Okay, I mean, that's a pretty good

00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:18.039
option. That's a pretty good option. Because

00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:22.159
both setters, albeit they're... kind of inconsistent

00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.519
at times or have both both start and both play

00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:28.659
and both have the potential to be good assuming

00:38:28.659 --> 00:38:31.300
they're coming in and delivering their setting

00:38:31.300 --> 00:38:35.320
situation is a little up and down and i'm thinking

00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.039
poland you know the girl who sometimes wears

00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.719
the cornrows she comes in on the right side oh

00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:42.679
she's one of the tattoos she's good and then

00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.340
their backup setter does a good job too like

00:38:45.340 --> 00:38:49.639
they do a good job when they come in u .s We've

00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:54.699
got like a Sage behind a Torres, maybe a let

00:38:54.699 --> 00:38:57.880
Nikki situation. I think the setting drop off

00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:01.780
for the US is just high. If Babcock is coming

00:39:01.780 --> 00:39:06.320
in as the. No, but yeah. As the dub sub, that's

00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.219
a good. But the US has been all over the place.

00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:09.679
Like I couldn't even tell you who their starting

00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:11.539
right side is. Right. Like it's hard to figure

00:39:11.539 --> 00:39:15.079
out who the dub sub is. And they don't have another

00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:20.010
setter like Poulter. So the offense is totally

00:39:20.010 --> 00:39:22.630
different. To me, I'm not sure I would put the

00:39:22.630 --> 00:39:26.610
U .S. on just because the drop in setting right

00:39:26.610 --> 00:39:30.730
now is so significant in terms of how it looks.

00:39:30.789 --> 00:39:33.630
So I think right side, you have a whole bunch

00:39:33.630 --> 00:39:37.289
of options. So I think that piece from an attacking

00:39:37.289 --> 00:39:39.409
or blocking standpoint is fine, but it's the

00:39:39.409 --> 00:39:42.449
setting that makes me nervous on that one. What

00:39:42.449 --> 00:39:47.309
about Germany, Turkey? You've got the young 23

00:39:47.309 --> 00:39:50.110
year old who sometimes, but like, you don't take

00:39:50.110 --> 00:39:52.630
Vargas off. No, no, you can't. Like, it's hard

00:39:52.630 --> 00:39:55.329
to like, like if you have a player that you like,

00:39:55.349 --> 00:39:57.710
absolutely are like, we are never taking you

00:39:57.710 --> 00:40:00.630
off. Then it's like, it's like, it's hard to

00:40:00.630 --> 00:40:04.309
justify it. And then we've got, okay. Germany,

00:40:04.429 --> 00:40:08.130
they bring the kinder. She sometimes starts,

00:40:08.230 --> 00:40:10.750
but then she sometimes doesn't. I not know. Germany.

00:40:10.789 --> 00:40:13.190
Okay. Right now my two top are Brazil and Poland.

00:40:13.289 --> 00:40:19.579
Yeah. I. And then Serbia, Japan, WADA has been

00:40:19.579 --> 00:40:21.780
starting for them. They don't really switch.

00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:29.800
China, Gong passes. Yeah, probably Brazil would

00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.219
be the option for that one, I think. And then

00:40:32.219 --> 00:40:36.239
Canada, I'm like, eh, no. Their double sub doesn't

00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.099
do it for me. Well, no, and you're not taking

00:40:38.099 --> 00:40:40.760
what's -her -name off the floor. Van Ryn? Yeah,

00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.230
their next. Well, their double sub is like. What

00:40:43.230 --> 00:40:47.869
is her name? Quinn something. Yeah. Yeah. It's

00:40:47.869 --> 00:40:52.489
not the Poland Brazil level. No. France. No,

00:40:52.590 --> 00:40:54.369
it's got, it's gotta be Brazil and then Poland.

00:40:54.429 --> 00:40:57.269
I think. Those two. Italy's obviously number

00:40:57.269 --> 00:41:01.710
one. Yeah. And then probably Russia. I'm sure

00:41:01.710 --> 00:41:03.829
they have someone besides Tolok waiting in the

00:41:03.829 --> 00:41:06.670
wings. Oh, absolutely. Right side. No need to

00:41:06.670 --> 00:41:10.530
pass. Perfect. There you go. Great segment. Great

00:41:10.530 --> 00:41:12.869
segment. That was a lot of fun. Great suggestion,

00:41:13.070 --> 00:41:15.869
too. This was a really good question. We love

00:41:15.869 --> 00:41:19.889
alliteration on the show. So for the game today,

00:41:20.010 --> 00:41:22.269
we're going to do Pavin's predictions. We have

00:41:22.269 --> 00:41:25.230
all kinds of stuff. Instead of the formerly known

00:41:25.230 --> 00:41:27.909
Pavin's percentages. No, that's a different game.

00:41:28.309 --> 00:41:30.389
No, I know. Oh, okay. But we like to keep it

00:41:30.389 --> 00:41:34.329
with the P. MLV love seasons are about halfway

00:41:34.329 --> 00:41:36.329
through. We're entering playoffs in Champions

00:41:36.329 --> 00:41:38.949
League and the Italian leagues. So what I want

00:41:38.949 --> 00:41:41.349
to do today is I want to go through and I want

00:41:41.349 --> 00:41:43.969
to get your predictions of what's going to happen

00:41:43.969 --> 00:41:48.090
in all of these different situations. Are you

00:41:48.090 --> 00:41:49.630
going to guide this? I'm going to guide this.

00:41:49.670 --> 00:41:52.869
Okay, good. It's the Wild West out there. MLV

00:41:52.869 --> 00:41:56.710
and Love, I want you to predict where you think

00:41:56.710 --> 00:41:59.829
teams will finish regular season based off where

00:41:59.829 --> 00:42:02.730
they are now. Okay, so a little bit. We did a

00:42:02.730 --> 00:42:04.570
prediction at the beginning of the season. So

00:42:04.570 --> 00:42:06.409
now that you've seen them play and we're halfway

00:42:06.409 --> 00:42:08.670
through. Let's reevaluate and see where we're

00:42:08.670 --> 00:42:12.530
at. Okay. And then we'll pick playoff winners

00:42:12.530 --> 00:42:17.570
for Italian League women, Italian League Champions

00:42:17.570 --> 00:42:20.010
League, and we might do the men once they're

00:42:20.010 --> 00:42:24.789
a little more set in their quarterfinals. We'll

00:42:24.789 --> 00:42:27.090
see if we have time to do some NCAA men's. We'll

00:42:27.090 --> 00:42:29.590
go from there. That's ambitious, but we'll see.

00:42:29.730 --> 00:42:33.530
All right. So let's start with MLV. Currently,

00:42:33.590 --> 00:42:37.489
we have Indian first, then Dallas, Orlando, San

00:42:37.489 --> 00:42:41.849
Diego, Omaha, Atlanta, Grand Rapids, and Columbus.

00:42:42.409 --> 00:42:46.329
Do you think we will stay in this order, or what

00:42:46.329 --> 00:42:49.510
do you think the end of the regular season will

00:42:49.510 --> 00:42:51.710
look like? All eight, or what do you mean? Yeah,

00:42:51.710 --> 00:42:55.110
give me all eight. Okay, I'm going to go Indy,

00:42:55.110 --> 00:43:01.210
Dallas, Orlando, Omaha, San Diego, Atlanta, Grand

00:43:01.210 --> 00:43:04.739
Rapids, Columbus. I would have the same one,

00:43:04.820 --> 00:43:07.079
but I think Atlanta will end up finishing ahead

00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:09.880
of San Diego. Atlanta. I think they're going

00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:14.719
to get it on the rails. The momentum's in San

00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:16.940
Diego's favor right now. Agreed. But we're still,

00:43:16.980 --> 00:43:19.380
there's still a lot of game to play here. I need

00:43:19.380 --> 00:43:21.420
to acknowledge the fact that they've made strides

00:43:21.420 --> 00:43:24.280
though. Totally. Totally. But I still think Atlanta,

00:43:24.539 --> 00:43:26.920
I mean, they're one, Atlanta has a game in hand

00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:28.820
and they're only one game behind. So it's going

00:43:28.820 --> 00:43:30.539
to be close. I mean, it's, there's a messy middle

00:43:30.539 --> 00:43:33.730
there. Lots of seven. This game is called. Adam's

00:43:33.730 --> 00:43:36.949
predictions, not Adam's prediction. We'll keep

00:43:36.949 --> 00:43:41.110
going. All right. For love, we have Salt Lake,

00:43:41.309 --> 00:43:45.949
Houston, Austin, Atlanta, Nebraska, Madison.

00:43:46.269 --> 00:43:49.869
What are you thinking? Salt Lake, Houston, Atlanta,

00:43:50.230 --> 00:43:52.929
Austin, Nebraska, Madison. Do you want to know

00:43:52.929 --> 00:43:54.630
mine or am I not allowed? No, I don't, but go

00:43:54.630 --> 00:43:57.010
for it. I'm just kidding. I think it's going

00:43:57.010 --> 00:44:03.219
to be Salt Lake, Austin, Houston, Atlanta. Madison,

00:44:03.219 --> 00:44:06.340
Nebraska. You think Madison is going to finish

00:44:06.340 --> 00:44:08.519
ahead of Nebraska? I do. I think they're going

00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:10.960
to. Do you think Austin is going to finish ahead

00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.679
of Atlanta and Houston? I do. So we'll see. Let's

00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:20.280
look at the Women's Champions League. Quarterfinals.

00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:22.980
You kind of went over this, but give me your

00:44:22.980 --> 00:44:26.659
quick take. Milano, Vacavank. Vacavank. Ankara

00:44:26.659 --> 00:44:31.260
versus Conigliano. Conigliano. Izazibashi versus

00:44:31.260 --> 00:44:35.340
Reslow. Oh, it's Ozzy Bashi. Scandicci, Fenerbahce.

00:44:35.539 --> 00:44:38.119
I hate to say it. I really like Scandicci, but

00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:40.159
I think Fenerbahce. And who's going to win the

00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:46.099
whole thing? Oh, okay. I'm going to. Oh, my gosh.

00:44:46.139 --> 00:44:48.300
This is so hard. I believe it's Vakavbank playing

00:44:48.300 --> 00:44:51.280
Corneliano in the semis based on that lineup.

00:44:51.860 --> 00:44:57.159
I think it's going to be Fenerbahce versus Vakavbank.

00:44:57.739 --> 00:45:00.469
This is so hard. I'm going to give it to Back

00:45:00.469 --> 00:45:04.070
Bank. Everybody can get mad and go for it. And

00:45:04.070 --> 00:45:07.630
then the Italian women's playoff. I mean, I think

00:45:07.630 --> 00:45:09.289
the first two are fairly straightforward, but

00:45:09.289 --> 00:45:13.170
Canigliano or Busto? Canigliano. Scandicci, Bergamo.

00:45:13.750 --> 00:45:15.550
Well, you say it's straightforward, and the Bergamo

00:45:15.550 --> 00:45:18.869
took Scandicci to five, like in that Scandicci.

00:45:18.929 --> 00:45:23.829
But I think Scandicci. Milano, Vallefoglia. Milano.

00:45:24.070 --> 00:45:28.349
And then Novara, Chieri. Novara. And who's winning

00:45:28.349 --> 00:45:33.170
the league? Fair enough. So we're going to do

00:45:33.170 --> 00:45:36.329
men's last time. One more round for you. Let's

00:45:36.329 --> 00:45:41.909
go through the NCAA men's big divisions and I'm

00:45:41.909 --> 00:45:43.610
going to give you the top three teams currently

00:45:43.610 --> 00:45:46.869
in each conference and you tell me who you think

00:45:46.869 --> 00:45:50.070
is going to win the conference. Okay. So Big

00:45:50.070 --> 00:45:53.230
West, UC Irvine, Hawaii, Long Beach State. Oh

00:45:53.230 --> 00:45:57.269
my gosh. I haven't seen Hawaii play yet. So it's

00:45:57.269 --> 00:45:59.739
really hard for me to... I mean, you know their

00:45:59.739 --> 00:46:01.159
team, though. We watched them quite a bit last

00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:04.579
year. I'm going to go Hawaii. Okay. That would

00:46:04.579 --> 00:46:09.360
be my pick as well. MPSF, UCLA, USC, BYU. UCLA.

00:46:10.380 --> 00:46:13.320
Meva, Ball State, Lindenwood, Loyola, Chicago.

00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:18.340
Loyola, Chicago. Ooh, interesting. And then Eastern

00:46:18.340 --> 00:46:21.820
Intercollegiate, you have Penn State, NJIT, and

00:46:21.820 --> 00:46:24.360
George Mason. Penn State, I guess. And who do

00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.659
you have winning the NCAA men's? UCLA. All right.

00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.800
There you have it. There's Pavin's predictions.

00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.000
That was fast. That was decisive. We'll do a

00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:38.280
mini Pavin's predictions next week for the Italian

00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:41.679
men's playoff and the Champions League. Okay.

00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:44.760
I just jumped on it. I tried not to think too

00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:48.980
hard. Just went on like gut instinct. But we'll

00:46:48.980 --> 00:46:52.599
see what happens. All right. It is time for listener

00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.519
questions. Are you ready? Let's do it. Question

00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.750
one. I'm a new listener and enjoyed the podcast

00:46:58.750 --> 00:47:02.090
a lot as a former club player. A question for

00:47:02.090 --> 00:47:05.590
you guys about consistency. Young players tend

00:47:05.590 --> 00:47:09.309
to lack consistency. How should those young players

00:47:09.309 --> 00:47:12.550
improve that from both a player's standpoint

00:47:12.550 --> 00:47:14.929
and coach's standpoint? Great question. Very

00:47:14.929 --> 00:47:17.630
good question. I need to think about this. Well,

00:47:17.630 --> 00:47:20.750
I'm curious what your thought is, but my initial

00:47:20.750 --> 00:47:24.920
instinct is. I want you to make good decisions

00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:29.880
and the execution will come with practice. That's

00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.940
how I would phrase it to the athletes. If you

00:47:32.940 --> 00:47:36.480
see the right thing and you are trying to do

00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.760
something, that's going to make you better in

00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:42.960
the long run, hands down. You talk about that

00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.980
first and then if you notice something technically

00:47:45.980 --> 00:47:48.739
deficient with what they're doing, you kind of

00:47:48.739 --> 00:47:51.579
go, hey, try this. Knowing full well that making

00:47:51.579 --> 00:47:55.400
any changes is going to have them make more mistakes.

00:47:55.699 --> 00:47:58.400
But I think the consistency comes with good decision

00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:02.860
making long term. I think that's fair. I'm thinking

00:48:02.860 --> 00:48:08.360
about my own kind of path and trajectory. And

00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:10.019
I'm going to throw out a term that we get so

00:48:10.019 --> 00:48:12.719
annoyed when people use. You know what I'm going

00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.079
to say? I don't, but I'm curious. volleyball

00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:20.559
IQ like I hate I feel like it's so overused when

00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:24.019
I think about my own career I feel like as I

00:48:24.019 --> 00:48:28.800
gained a more intimate knowledge of the sport

00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:33.039
and how people are moving and like the timing

00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:37.719
in the set and how the team's momentum is going

00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.739
how my personal you know momentum has been going

00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:45.099
I developed a better understanding as I progressed

00:48:45.099 --> 00:48:50.380
of like when it was OK to take risks and when

00:48:50.380 --> 00:48:54.679
I needed to be smart. And I feel like that comes

00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:59.480
with experience and being in certain situations

00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:03.639
enough times to really hone that volleyball IQ.

00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:05.840
Do you know what I'm saying? No, that's that's

00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:09.039
totally. Right. I think there's two ways to talk

00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:10.920
about consistency. One is when you're developing

00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:12.780
skills when you're a younger athlete. And the

00:49:12.780 --> 00:49:14.739
other one is when you're playing at a higher

00:49:14.739 --> 00:49:16.980
level and you have those basic. So I'm just saying

00:49:16.980 --> 00:49:20.079
like, even at the highest levels, it's the teams

00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:23.400
that are able to execute consistently. And I'm

00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:25.440
talking like even at the professional level.

00:49:25.579 --> 00:49:28.760
And I'm thinking even specifically of like beach

00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:31.800
volleyball, like the difference between teams

00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:35.320
who are winning international tournaments. And

00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:39.119
the teams who are, you know, finishing 17th or,

00:49:39.260 --> 00:49:42.179
you know, just getting so close and then missing

00:49:42.179 --> 00:49:45.199
is consistency. And I have said that like so

00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:48.500
much, like as I've competed is the best teams

00:49:48.500 --> 00:49:52.599
just make fewer errors. Okay. And so it's like,

00:49:52.619 --> 00:49:54.559
how do you develop that? I feel like for club

00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:57.739
players, it is like giving them the freedom to

00:49:57.739 --> 00:50:00.619
figure it out. Like you were saying. So there's

00:50:00.619 --> 00:50:04.019
two things. One is if there's a legitimate technical

00:50:04.019 --> 00:50:06.420
issue that is causing a player to consistently

00:50:06.420 --> 00:50:09.380
make mistakes, you have to go back, you have

00:50:09.380 --> 00:50:11.119
to train them on the fundamentals, and then you

00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:14.119
have to move them through doing it in isolation,

00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:16.300
doing it with decisions, and then doing it in

00:50:16.300 --> 00:50:19.079
live play. That's how you would correct a technical

00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:21.340
issue. I know that sounds simple. It's not. But

00:50:21.340 --> 00:50:22.960
that's kind of the progression you would do.

00:50:23.739 --> 00:50:25.880
I think what you're talking about and what you

00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:28.489
see at the higher levels is... pattern recognition

00:50:28.489 --> 00:50:31.889
and being able to execute on those on that pattern

00:50:31.889 --> 00:50:34.809
that's fair and I am kind of talking about like

00:50:34.809 --> 00:50:37.550
as you progress to a higher level but if this

00:50:37.550 --> 00:50:40.230
question is specifically asking about young players

00:50:40.230 --> 00:50:45.989
I will say the coaches that made me afraid to

00:50:45.989 --> 00:50:49.769
make mistakes those were the coaches that I made

00:50:49.769 --> 00:50:52.650
more mistakes playing for yeah do you know what

00:50:52.650 --> 00:50:54.900
I'm saying it's like If it's like if there was

00:50:54.900 --> 00:50:57.539
like a rule in practice or in on a team or in

00:50:57.539 --> 00:50:59.940
practice or something like if you miss your serve

00:50:59.940 --> 00:51:02.760
in the net, you're doing X punishment. It's like

00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:04.780
that's what you're thinking. I would miss more

00:51:04.780 --> 00:51:08.159
serves in the net if it was just like, you know,

00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:12.260
your job is to the point score. So when it's

00:51:12.260 --> 00:51:15.860
24 all like I we have confidence in you like

00:51:15.860 --> 00:51:18.099
you're the person we want to take that swing

00:51:18.099 --> 00:51:21.690
and like. part of that role does come with making

00:51:21.690 --> 00:51:24.429
errors in that situation. It's like, okay, yes,

00:51:24.570 --> 00:51:26.650
that my team has confidence in me. Like this

00:51:26.650 --> 00:51:29.929
is my job. I need to be aggressive and it's okay.

00:51:30.429 --> 00:51:32.789
You know, like there's such a big difference

00:51:32.789 --> 00:51:37.530
when there's like punishment attached to something.

00:51:37.710 --> 00:51:43.090
Like when I, when I was made afraid to make errors,

00:51:43.230 --> 00:51:46.670
I made more errors. So I think just like, allowing

00:51:46.670 --> 00:51:49.650
players to understand their role and empowering

00:51:49.650 --> 00:51:54.570
them to take risks and potentially make mistakes

00:51:54.570 --> 00:51:58.210
as they're becoming better and honing their skills.

00:51:58.969 --> 00:52:02.449
Because it's a mentality. Totally. My two favorite

00:52:02.449 --> 00:52:05.869
questions when I coach is, what did you see and

00:52:05.869 --> 00:52:09.590
what were you trying to do? That's the only two

00:52:09.590 --> 00:52:12.829
things you ever need to ask an athlete. I'm being

00:52:12.829 --> 00:52:16.159
somewhat facetious there. If you understand what

00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:18.239
they're seeing and what they were trying to do,

00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:20.380
then you can have a conversation with them about,

00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:23.639
okay, here's how I would have A, made a different

00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:27.059
decision, or did you see this? And then B, if

00:52:27.059 --> 00:52:28.699
you were trying to do that and it didn't happen,

00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.260
then you can give them some feedback on why that

00:52:31.260 --> 00:52:33.420
didn't work. And now you're bringing them into

00:52:33.420 --> 00:52:35.360
the process and you're having them think about

00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.579
it. And I think that's just so valuable to developing

00:52:38.579 --> 00:52:41.820
that consistency and that confidence. I love

00:52:41.820 --> 00:52:44.559
this question. This is... This is a beer question

00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:46.980
to me. I could sit around and drink beer and

00:52:46.980 --> 00:52:49.400
talk about these kind of things for hours on

00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:51.460
end. I love this. Thank you for submitting it.

00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.619
Good question. Okay, question two. With the current

00:52:54.619 --> 00:52:57.300
ban lift on youth Russian international competition,

00:52:57.619 --> 00:53:01.380
do you think FIVB will lift the senior ban? And

00:53:01.380 --> 00:53:03.480
if so, do you think the Russian nationals for

00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:06.760
both men and women will be competitive? I think

00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:08.900
the women's side would compete with the world,

00:53:08.940 --> 00:53:12.780
the men's side not so much. Ooh, I don't... I

00:53:12.780 --> 00:53:15.159
haven't seen a lot of men's Russian volleyball

00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:18.420
lately, but they're always good. And they're

00:53:18.420 --> 00:53:20.320
always big. Yeah, they've typically been pretty

00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:23.019
good. And their pro leagues are generally pretty

00:53:23.019 --> 00:53:26.300
competitive. So I would, I have no idea what

00:53:26.300 --> 00:53:28.679
the FIVB is thinking in terms of lifting bands.

00:53:29.059 --> 00:53:31.059
I can't even, I can't predict. Like it's been

00:53:31.059 --> 00:53:34.159
several years now. Yeah. Yeah, I have no idea

00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:36.320
if they'll do it or not. No sport federation

00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:38.420
wants to be the first, I would say, probably.

00:53:38.860 --> 00:53:42.949
So I don't know. I haven't seen anything else

00:53:42.949 --> 00:53:45.190
happen except for individual athletes who can

00:53:45.190 --> 00:53:49.190
compete under a non -flag. But team -wise, I'm

00:53:49.190 --> 00:53:52.250
not sure. I would be surprised. But I think both

00:53:52.250 --> 00:53:54.469
would be competitive. I know the Russian women

00:53:54.469 --> 00:53:57.389
from, like, my era, and obviously, like, the

00:53:57.389 --> 00:53:59.869
younger athletes and the athletes that are, like,

00:53:59.869 --> 00:54:02.130
currently, like, playing in Russia still, I'm

00:54:02.130 --> 00:54:04.150
not as familiar with. But just off the top of

00:54:04.150 --> 00:54:07.530
my head, like, you've got Markova, Fedorovseva,

00:54:07.769 --> 00:54:11.230
Tolok. Like right off the top of my head. That's

00:54:11.230 --> 00:54:16.309
a legit three. And there's way more. The women

00:54:16.309 --> 00:54:21.230
100 % would be very competitive. The men, they're

00:54:21.230 --> 00:54:24.710
always good. But you also have players that are

00:54:24.710 --> 00:54:27.989
of the older era when they were very good who

00:54:27.989 --> 00:54:30.269
in the time the ban has happened have stopped

00:54:30.269 --> 00:54:33.090
playing. Yeah. If I had to guess, they were making

00:54:33.090 --> 00:54:35.449
quarterfinals of most major tournaments, if not

00:54:35.449 --> 00:54:38.940
better. That's what that would be. I would say,

00:54:38.980 --> 00:54:41.239
I would guess both would be competitive. Yeah,

00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:43.940
I would. Ain't nobody want to see them in the

00:54:43.940 --> 00:54:46.099
draw. You look at the men across the board, though,

00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:48.920
and the men, there's parody. True. Way more parody

00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:51.119
than there is on the women's side. So like, are

00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:53.340
they going to walk in and win a gold medal? I

00:54:53.340 --> 00:54:56.750
don't know, because like, literally. nine teams

00:54:56.750 --> 00:54:58.409
on the men's side could win a gold medal and

00:54:58.409 --> 00:55:00.130
i wouldn't be shocked you know what i'm saying

00:55:00.130 --> 00:55:02.570
but like the women's side like i could they i

00:55:02.570 --> 00:55:05.889
think that they could slot in for sure top three

00:55:05.889 --> 00:55:09.929
i mean i would say top five at least somebody

00:55:09.929 --> 00:55:12.289
asked me recently on instagram if i think that

00:55:12.289 --> 00:55:15.670
they would be better than the u .s right now

00:55:15.670 --> 00:55:18.289
and i said yes i think they would be better than

00:55:18.289 --> 00:55:21.320
the u .s It's a good question. Yeah. It would

00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:23.739
just be interesting. Even seeing them play professionally

00:55:23.739 --> 00:55:26.239
for their club teams, I'm like, wow. They're

00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:29.139
good. They're good. Question three. Between NCAA

00:55:29.139 --> 00:55:31.300
men's or women's volleyball players, who do you

00:55:31.300 --> 00:55:34.940
think leave college more prepared for international

00:55:34.940 --> 00:55:38.199
volleyball? The men. Hands down. Why do you say

00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:43.360
that? There are fewer men's teams, so the talent

00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:48.039
is more concentrated. You're playing better games.

00:55:48.699 --> 00:55:52.460
more consistently, I think. There's no dilution.

00:55:52.500 --> 00:55:54.900
The guys who are coming up, there just aren't

00:55:54.900 --> 00:55:56.980
that many people who are choosing volleyball

00:55:56.980 --> 00:56:01.119
over football, baseball, basketball. Okay, no,

00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:05.010
I don't... But my point was... Those same athletes

00:56:05.010 --> 00:56:09.230
are all going through U15, U17, U19 for the international

00:56:09.230 --> 00:56:11.789
programs. Okay, so yeah, they're playing together.

00:56:11.829 --> 00:56:14.369
Great. But you think they're ready to step in

00:56:14.369 --> 00:56:17.550
to top international play? I think a lot of them

00:56:17.550 --> 00:56:20.349
have competed more internationally than the women

00:56:20.349 --> 00:56:22.570
have. So they have more experience. They know

00:56:22.570 --> 00:56:27.469
more about it. And the young men coming up are

00:56:27.469 --> 00:56:31.070
just as physical. The men's game is more physical.

00:56:31.820 --> 00:56:33.840
then I would say the women's game. The guys can

00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:35.500
go up and hammer balls. No, see, I was going

00:56:35.500 --> 00:56:39.139
to say that reason that you just said was going

00:56:39.139 --> 00:56:41.239
to be a reason why I didn't think the men were

00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:43.780
prepared. But think about when you see the women

00:56:43.780 --> 00:56:46.860
come out. They go, okay, I can score. I can score

00:56:46.860 --> 00:56:48.880
here. I can score here. Look at Babcock. What

00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:52.420
do we always say? She is coming in and she can

00:56:52.420 --> 00:56:54.480
score on two balls. Now she's going to see a

00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:56.840
much bigger block. She's going to need to learn

00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:59.380
how to score in other ways when she moves to

00:56:59.380 --> 00:57:01.739
internationally. You look at... I'm blanking

00:57:01.739 --> 00:57:04.440
on the kid's name from UCLA. Cooper Robinson?

00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:07.559
Cooper Robinson came in, started for the U .S.

00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:09.860
national team straight out of college, right?

00:57:09.940 --> 00:57:12.119
He's as big as the other guys. He's as physical.

00:57:12.219 --> 00:57:14.860
He's been playing against six 10 -setters who

00:57:14.860 --> 00:57:16.260
are also international. But then you have like

00:57:16.260 --> 00:57:19.199
an Andrew Rowan who came out for VNL and was

00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:22.400
like... But I think setting in the barrel is

00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:26.360
a different animal. Skilled positions. Yes. And

00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:29.500
you also have more... high -end international

00:57:29.500 --> 00:57:32.480
men playing in the NCAA than you do on the women's

00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:35.260
side you're playing against Nikolov you're playing

00:57:35.260 --> 00:57:38.539
against Hanno you're playing against all of these

00:57:38.539 --> 00:57:41.760
other guys Canadians the level of competition

00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.579
on the NCAA side I think is closer to international

00:57:45.579 --> 00:57:47.519
than it is on the women's I'm not saying it is

00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:49.960
international I'm saying it's closer okay you've

00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.599
convinced me that's my argument I was initially

00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:56.119
thinking that the physics aspect. Like the men

00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:59.019
need a little bit to catch up. Some of them need

00:57:59.019 --> 00:58:01.179
to put a little meat on their bones. That's what

00:58:01.179 --> 00:58:03.219
I mean. But they're still playing the game at

00:58:03.219 --> 00:58:05.039
the same height. It's not as big of a difference

00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:07.880
as like an 18 year old freshman walking in playing

00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:10.880
against 22 year old men. Correct. As a 22 year

00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:13.460
old man is playing against like a 27 year old.

00:58:13.579 --> 00:58:16.039
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You convinced me. Question

00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:19.340
four. When you are considering players for a

00:58:19.340 --> 00:58:22.099
roster, how much weight do you put on certain

00:58:22.099 --> 00:58:26.719
aspects? For example, the eye test, stats, physicality

00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:29.699
versus others. How do those individual traits

00:58:29.699 --> 00:58:33.260
feed into roster construction? Do you have a

00:58:33.260 --> 00:58:35.199
kind of player that you really tend to gravitate

00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:37.840
toward? I'm just going to say, I feel like, I

00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:39.440
don't know if this is true across the board,

00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:42.239
but I feel like it is so easy for coaches to

00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:45.159
relate and identify with players that are like

00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:49.159
them when they were athletes. Totally. I think

00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.320
it's the number one innate coaching mistake.

00:58:54.539 --> 00:58:56.699
Yes. As all my answers start with, I'm going

00:58:56.699 --> 00:58:58.300
to say it depends on what you're trying to do

00:58:58.300 --> 00:59:01.179
here. No, but just like for you, what do you

00:59:01.179 --> 00:59:03.179
look at when you're constructing a roster? But

00:59:03.179 --> 00:59:05.059
are we talking internationally? Are we talking

00:59:05.059 --> 00:59:08.900
club? The only reason I ask that is because potential

00:59:08.900 --> 00:59:12.719
comes into the question depending on where you

00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:14.619
are and what you're trying to accomplish. Okay,

00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:19.159
let's start with if you're building a club team

00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:23.809
roster and then we'll do like... A good college

00:59:23.809 --> 00:59:27.369
team. So I'm going to do a club roster. Let's

00:59:27.369 --> 00:59:31.590
say 16U. Okay, so 16U. Or 15U. And I'm going

00:59:31.590 --> 00:59:35.110
to coach them for two or three years. I'm taking

00:59:35.110 --> 00:59:41.650
raw athleticism first. Attitude second. Skill

00:59:41.650 --> 00:59:43.829
after that. I don't think many coaches would

00:59:43.829 --> 00:59:46.849
do that that late this day and age. I'm not saying

00:59:46.849 --> 00:59:49.170
it's right. I hear what you're saying, but...

00:59:49.340 --> 00:59:52.360
three years at that age is an eternity. And this

00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:54.119
is just me. Like, I don't be like, no, but they

00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:56.699
have to sign and get verbally committed by the

00:59:56.699 --> 01:00:00.280
time they are 15 winning at 16. You doesn't do

01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:02.639
anything for me. Like, I don't, I don't care.

01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:05.659
Right. For me, I'm like, if you're good enough

01:00:05.659 --> 01:00:07.920
and you develop, you will get recruited and you'll

01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:10.059
find a place to play. Like who cares how good

01:00:10.059 --> 01:00:13.159
you are when you're 14? That's probably, except

01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:16.880
if you're carrying on. So I'm just, that's probably

01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:19.900
what I would look for. in that order in club

01:00:19.900 --> 01:00:23.320
I do think you know obviously if you have just

01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:26.320
stellar an athlete who's just innate but you

01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:29.119
got to work on some personality stuff or some

01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:31.099
attitude stuff you you work with that player

01:00:31.099 --> 01:00:35.380
but I think in general I would go with that so

01:00:35.380 --> 01:00:38.380
you don't really care about on a club level you

01:00:38.380 --> 01:00:43.820
rely more on eye test physicality yeah because

01:00:43.820 --> 01:00:47.750
there's so much to learn There's so much to work.

01:00:47.929 --> 01:00:50.610
They're so mobile. I would watch the parents

01:00:50.610 --> 01:00:53.650
drop them off. That's how you recruit kids to

01:00:53.650 --> 01:00:56.590
the gym. I can actually say I've done this. I

01:00:56.590 --> 01:00:59.349
coached a boys club team and I needed a few extra

01:00:59.349 --> 01:01:02.610
players. And I drove to the Dutch community that

01:01:02.610 --> 01:01:06.610
was around my house. I looked for the biggest

01:01:06.610 --> 01:01:09.650
kids. I didn't know their names. We ended up

01:01:09.650 --> 01:01:11.670
calling them Sticks and Lefty were the two guys

01:01:11.670 --> 01:01:15.840
that I pulled. They were grade 10, 6 '5", lefty,

01:01:15.860 --> 01:01:19.300
6 '6", long. They were my right side and my middle.

01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:21.360
We brought them in, told them about volleyball.

01:01:21.460 --> 01:01:24.039
They had no idea what was going on. Are they

01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:26.320
any good? By the end, they both played in college.

01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:30.719
Really? Yeah. I think for club, that's what I

01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:34.239
would prioritize. And I will say I'm a sucker

01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:38.579
for undying work ethic. So if there's an athlete

01:01:38.579 --> 01:01:40.380
in the gym who's like that, I'm taking them on

01:01:40.380 --> 01:01:43.300
my team because I love the environment. That's

01:01:43.300 --> 01:01:46.480
Adam's mini me blind spot. Yeah. Fair. What would

01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:49.440
my mini me blind spot be? Somebody who's a psycho.

01:01:50.340 --> 01:01:54.380
Yours would be technically sound and competitive.

01:01:55.019 --> 01:01:57.239
Like rip somebody's face off and don't apologize.

01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:00.840
Yeah. Win every drill. Don't make friends. I'm

01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:06.380
just kidding. I'm not. Okay. Making a club, a

01:02:06.380 --> 01:02:11.099
college team. This is a little trickier. Yes.

01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:16.960
It's so hard because you need, you do like good

01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:21.360
athletes. To some extent there is ego. You can't

01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:23.440
become the best at something without a little

01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:26.659
bit of ego, but then to make a good team, you

01:02:26.659 --> 01:02:30.039
also need role players who are like the hype

01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:34.260
guy, the selfless ones. It's just like, I would

01:02:34.260 --> 01:02:39.159
say roster building in college is about finding

01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:44.400
harmony. You need to understand how athletes

01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:46.320
will change the mix. Now, don't get me wrong.

01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:50.199
You need horses to win. That's first and foremost.

01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:53.599
You probably can't have four alphas on the team.

01:02:54.619 --> 01:02:56.980
Maybe you can if you're really good at managing

01:02:56.980 --> 01:02:59.420
them, but you're probably not going to get them

01:02:59.420 --> 01:03:03.099
in one place. I'm talking women's more than men's.

01:03:03.699 --> 01:03:06.420
And then you have to look at the strengths that

01:03:06.420 --> 01:03:09.860
you have and make sure that... your team is going

01:03:09.860 --> 01:03:13.940
to function the way you want it to, both from

01:03:13.940 --> 01:03:15.800
a personality standpoint, but from a strategic

01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:19.360
standpoint. We talked about Azazi Bashi the other

01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.440
week and just how they brought all the tallest

01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:24.199
players in. It's like, well, who's going to play

01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:26.360
defense and who's going to do this? Or is your

01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:30.280
sole plan to be offensive and block? You need

01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:32.460
to have a clear identity and a clear goal, and

01:03:32.460 --> 01:03:35.000
you need to recruit players who fit what you

01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.480
want to do, but who also mesh with each other.

01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:41.039
So it's nuanced. It's hard. So he's not going

01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:44.480
to answer that part of the question. Okay. I

01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:50.340
don't coach college. So what do I know? But I

01:03:50.340 --> 01:03:55.880
would say you need, what would I look for? A

01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:01.210
setter with a... Very intelligent, good hands,

01:04:01.349 --> 01:04:04.949
but also a little bit of swagger. Then I would

01:04:04.949 --> 01:04:12.210
look for a right side who is fearless. That's

01:04:12.210 --> 01:04:15.590
going to be the ego player. Fearless, go for

01:04:15.590 --> 01:04:20.869
it. Left side, okay being point score number

01:04:20.869 --> 01:04:25.210
two, ball control, but also works really hard.

01:04:25.909 --> 01:04:29.590
Then, other than that, your middles, workhorses.

01:04:29.769 --> 01:04:32.650
Grinders. Grinders. The ones who are willing

01:04:32.650 --> 01:04:38.010
to work the selfless position, but also, like,

01:04:38.070 --> 01:04:40.489
don't mess with me. If you push me hard enough,

01:04:40.670 --> 01:04:43.949
I'm going to clap back. Am I building the Haiku

01:04:43.949 --> 01:04:48.130
roster? Maybe. And your libero needs to be the

01:04:48.130 --> 01:04:52.530
hype person, but also be a little crazy. Because

01:04:52.530 --> 01:04:55.800
you can't be taking... getting pelted by balls

01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:58.539
getting hit at your face all day without being

01:04:58.539 --> 01:05:03.599
a little tweaked but the libero needs to be the

01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:08.559
like energy source i think on the court and then

01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:12.179
you need role players and bench players who are

01:05:12.179 --> 01:05:14.760
okay like that's why i wonder sometimes about

01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:16.860
certain colleges who just collect all the best

01:05:16.860 --> 01:05:20.460
players it's like how are you how are you managing

01:05:20.460 --> 01:05:24.039
that like you don't The best teams don't always

01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:27.400
have the best players top to bottom. You need

01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:29.460
those role players who might not be the most

01:05:29.460 --> 01:05:32.760
skilled, but who can do a couple things really

01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:37.739
well to patch a hole in the crunch. You know

01:05:37.739 --> 01:05:40.500
what I mean? And who are working at practice

01:05:40.500 --> 01:05:43.079
to make the team better. Exactly. Okay, so let

01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:46.599
me ask you this. You've played for a super successful

01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:48.579
college. You've played on a ton of pro teams,

01:05:48.780 --> 01:05:51.559
both that have won and that have lost. What are

01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:54.860
the two biggest differences you would say between

01:05:54.860 --> 01:05:57.760
the teams that you've been on that have won and

01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:02.260
that have lost? Honestly, the team dynamic. The

01:06:02.260 --> 01:06:06.099
teams who are able to manage the personalities

01:06:06.099 --> 01:06:11.360
and the egos and get everybody to really understand

01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.280
their role and buy in are the teams that were

01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:16.320
the most successful. And is that done by the

01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:18.400
coach or is that done by the team or is it a

01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:21.900
combination? I don't know. if it's necessarily

01:06:21.900 --> 01:06:25.820
done by anybody, but I think like the people

01:06:25.820 --> 01:06:31.079
that the athletes have to have those, you know,

01:06:31.079 --> 01:06:33.900
traits and you don't have to be happy if you're

01:06:33.900 --> 01:06:35.840
not playing, but you need to keep it to yourself.

01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:39.139
Do you know what I mean? Like harmony. I think

01:06:39.139 --> 01:06:42.039
the other thing about putting a team together

01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:47.480
is I think the intangibles and the personality

01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:51.369
piece gets more important as you get, higher

01:06:51.369 --> 01:06:55.050
in level because the skill is closer and closer

01:06:55.050 --> 01:06:59.889
like if you look at winning teams of high level

01:06:59.889 --> 01:07:02.150
sports like I'm I'm a big hockey guy so I watched

01:07:02.150 --> 01:07:04.309
a lot of hockey you you look at the character

01:07:04.309 --> 01:07:06.309
guys you hear the interviews like our dressing

01:07:06.309 --> 01:07:08.650
room was the best we went to battle for each

01:07:08.650 --> 01:07:12.090
other like that those things are important in

01:07:12.090 --> 01:07:14.289
the hard moments and I think that's something

01:07:14.289 --> 01:07:15.949
I've noticed with teams that you won especially

01:07:15.949 --> 01:07:18.369
those two Brazilian teams like you guys were

01:07:18.369 --> 01:07:21.070
not the most skilled team In the years that you

01:07:21.070 --> 01:07:23.670
won. But you guys were grinders. You were fighters.

01:07:23.929 --> 01:07:27.710
You were. You see the amount of money those teams.

01:07:28.130 --> 01:07:31.130
Spend on scouting. Of watching players they bring

01:07:31.130 --> 01:07:33.389
in. To see how they react in certain situations.

01:07:33.570 --> 01:07:37.250
Like all of that is super important. Is that

01:07:37.250 --> 01:07:39.969
something that you think. That can be taught.

01:07:40.230 --> 01:07:43.710
Through like you know. All teams do like team

01:07:43.710 --> 01:07:46.610
building exercises. Blah blah blah. Or do you

01:07:46.610 --> 01:07:50.889
think it's just intangible. I think the older

01:07:50.889 --> 01:07:54.409
you get, the harder it is to change. If you're

01:07:54.409 --> 01:07:59.150
23 and you're externally motivated, I think it's

01:07:59.150 --> 01:08:01.530
very hard to all of a sudden become internally

01:08:01.530 --> 01:08:04.030
motivated. Not that being externally motivated

01:08:04.030 --> 01:08:06.530
is a bad thing, but you need to understand that

01:08:06.530 --> 01:08:09.630
if you have someone like that on your team. It's

01:08:09.630 --> 01:08:15.329
harder to make those adjustments the older you

01:08:15.329 --> 01:08:20.310
get, I think. All right. Question five. What

01:08:20.310 --> 01:08:23.550
do you guys think of Lector Member Mena? She's

01:08:23.550 --> 01:08:26.489
become a pretty solid passer in MLV, that is.

01:08:26.550 --> 01:08:28.850
And with that arm, I wonder if there's a good

01:08:28.850 --> 01:08:33.789
ROI if Team USA develops her. I don't think it's

01:08:33.789 --> 01:08:36.829
going to happen. She's good. I think she's good

01:08:36.829 --> 01:08:39.550
for the level she's playing at. But, like, the

01:08:39.550 --> 01:08:46.329
jump from MLV to national team is steep. Listen.

01:08:46.810 --> 01:08:51.229
I think she's 5 '8". She is. And. We're not trying

01:08:51.229 --> 01:08:54.569
to like put limits on people here. No. But there's

01:08:54.569 --> 01:08:59.350
sometimes all you can do is go as high as you

01:08:59.350 --> 01:09:01.770
can. I love her mentality. I think she's good.

01:09:02.050 --> 01:09:04.329
I love the way she plays. I think she's constantly

01:09:04.329 --> 01:09:06.770
improving. She is somebody I would want on my

01:09:06.770 --> 01:09:10.590
team hands down. But think about like Jordan

01:09:10.590 --> 01:09:15.750
Larson was is the definition of the best. P2

01:09:15.750 --> 01:09:17.789
you could probably have on a team in her prime.

01:09:17.829 --> 01:09:21.930
And how tall is she? 6 '2". That's 6 inches.

01:09:22.109 --> 01:09:25.869
It's tough to compete with that. Can you imagine

01:09:25.869 --> 01:09:30.149
Lector member mana blocking Egonu or Entropova?

01:09:30.869 --> 01:09:32.670
That's what would happen. No, because it wouldn't

01:09:32.670 --> 01:09:38.789
happen. She is good. I respect her. I think she's

01:09:38.789 --> 01:09:41.949
a good player. She is good for the level she's

01:09:41.949 --> 01:09:45.279
playing at. Totally. She is not... An international

01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:49.399
caliber left side. Not all of us can go on and

01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:53.779
play internationally or play wherever, you know,

01:09:53.779 --> 01:09:56.840
you have to, as an athlete, your goal should

01:09:56.840 --> 01:09:59.520
be to be the best version of yourself. And I

01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:03.340
think she is doing that. Unfortunately, you know,

01:10:03.340 --> 01:10:06.239
0 .01 % of people play for national teams and

01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:08.539
there's all kinds of factors. That's not an exact

01:10:08.539 --> 01:10:11.680
stat. But you get, you get the point I'm saying.

01:10:11.779 --> 01:10:16.079
I like her, but no. Okay, question six. Why don't

01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:19.180
teams utilize the serve receive rotation adjustment,

01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:22.659
which is the last minute hide or shift right

01:10:22.659 --> 01:10:25.060
before the serve comes over, especially in rotation

01:10:25.060 --> 01:10:27.880
one receive to push the setter and outside closer

01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:30.380
to the net and shift the libero to take the serve

01:10:30.380 --> 01:10:34.140
going to area one. To me, this is almost like

01:10:34.140 --> 01:10:37.199
conceding you're not good enough to pass a serve.

01:10:37.319 --> 01:10:44.600
I think there's a mentality piece to it. Yeah.

01:10:45.020 --> 01:10:47.739
And then the team would be like, oh, they shifted.

01:10:48.819 --> 01:10:52.020
I'm going to bomb one here. Forget it. The other

01:10:52.020 --> 01:10:55.359
thing about passing, too, is it's rhythmic. Like,

01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:59.159
you have your routine you go through. Shifting

01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:02.520
every now and then, you know, could be beneficial.

01:11:02.659 --> 01:11:05.159
But I think it would be really, really hard to

01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:07.159
kind of throw your rhythm or to be moving on

01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:10.420
contact, you know, in that situation. I think

01:11:10.420 --> 01:11:13.760
the benefits. The situation for the benefit to

01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:17.159
be to outweigh the potential issues would have

01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:19.039
to be very specific. Like I think the Chinese

01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:22.119
men did it. The Chinese men did it. You know,

01:11:22.119 --> 01:11:24.760
and they are in general competing outside of

01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:27.159
their level. When I think about it too, like

01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:31.640
the serves are coming so fast. If I'm coaching,

01:11:31.819 --> 01:11:35.960
I'm like, be stopped. You need to be stopped

01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:38.640
when the person is contacting the ball. Otherwise.

01:11:40.339 --> 01:11:42.859
it's not going to go well for you a lot of the

01:11:42.859 --> 01:11:47.000
time. In beach, you see it. You see when the

01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:51.140
server takes their eye off the court or when

01:11:51.140 --> 01:11:53.699
their eyes lift to make contact with the ball.

01:11:53.859 --> 01:11:58.880
You can make the shift. But indoor, A, the court

01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:01.939
is bigger. B, the serves are coming way faster.

01:12:02.220 --> 01:12:08.279
I don't see it working as often as it might seem.

01:12:09.460 --> 01:12:12.439
as a concept I agree like in theory it sounds

01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:15.899
like a great idea but like I said there's too

01:12:15.899 --> 01:12:18.159
much that could go wrong teams are good enough

01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:20.699
like they'll notice it once and they'll be like

01:12:20.699 --> 01:12:22.520
yeah forget about it well I think the other thing

01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:24.819
to think about too is you would have to be an

01:12:24.819 --> 01:12:27.920
unbelievable passer to do that I think because

01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:33.149
you the way you read serves and you read hand

01:12:33.149 --> 01:12:35.970
contact and body position like if your eyes are

01:12:35.970 --> 01:12:37.930
bouncing up and down and you're moving across

01:12:37.930 --> 01:12:40.829
like your perception of the ball I think would

01:12:40.829 --> 01:12:43.289
also change like I think it I just don't like

01:12:43.289 --> 01:12:45.989
the movement it creates yeah an extra level of

01:12:45.989 --> 01:12:49.390
difficulty that probably doesn't give you the

01:12:49.390 --> 01:12:52.789
benefit okay last question today how important

01:12:52.789 --> 01:12:56.409
are sports psychologists what do they do and

01:12:56.409 --> 01:12:59.470
at what level of the sport do they usually come

01:12:59.470 --> 01:13:02.859
into play Do they offer patchwork or do they

01:13:02.859 --> 01:13:06.619
let the athlete build useful tools? I think it

01:13:06.619 --> 01:13:09.159
should start at four years old. It's like anything.

01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:12.359
I think there are some people who need them more

01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:15.479
than others. It depends on somebody's makeup.

01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:20.859
It's like a therapist. I think that every single

01:13:20.859 --> 01:13:24.479
person should go to therapy. Is it going to look

01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:26.840
the same for every single person? Absolutely

01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:31.149
not. Are some people going to have to work with

01:13:31.149 --> 01:13:35.010
their therapist for 17 years while others can

01:13:35.010 --> 01:13:40.329
move on and live well after a few sessions? Yes.

01:13:40.430 --> 01:13:42.670
And I think the same thing applies to sports

01:13:42.670 --> 01:13:47.609
psychologists. Some people will need them intensively

01:13:47.609 --> 01:13:50.270
for their whole career and some people might

01:13:50.270 --> 01:13:53.050
have an issue or two that pop up here and then

01:13:53.050 --> 01:13:55.729
that they need to work through. I would put it

01:13:55.729 --> 01:13:58.760
like that. I think that's a really good way of

01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.140
looking at it. I think the way I think about

01:14:01.140 --> 01:14:04.819
it is a lot of those mental things are skills

01:14:04.819 --> 01:14:09.279
that are required in order to perform. So I look

01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:12.500
at visualization. When I met you, I asked you,

01:14:12.539 --> 01:14:17.359
I think, if you did any kind of specific visualization

01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:21.220
and you told me no. And as we talked about sport,

01:14:21.300 --> 01:14:22.680
you're like, oh, I've seen myself doing that.

01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:25.039
I picture myself doing that. You're like, you

01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:26.720
idiot, that's visualization. I was like, I asked

01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:29.609
you. if you do visualization, you said, no, you're

01:14:29.609 --> 01:14:31.350
like, well, I don't sit there and visualize,

01:14:31.489 --> 01:14:34.670
but like, I look at the skill was I'm doing this

01:14:34.670 --> 01:14:37.569
and I do it when I watch video. And so I think,

01:14:37.569 --> 01:14:39.350
or it's just like, I'm always thinking about

01:14:39.350 --> 01:14:41.850
volleyball. So it's always, but that's the thing.

01:14:41.890 --> 01:14:46.010
I think a lot of athletes do some things naturally.

01:14:46.069 --> 01:14:47.930
It just kind of makes sense to them. They can't

01:14:47.930 --> 01:14:50.630
necessarily put a word to it, but they are doing

01:14:50.630 --> 01:14:53.909
those things, but confidence dealing with errors.

01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:57.800
Getting over mistakes and thinking about the

01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:00.020
right thing. Critically looking at your own game.

01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:03.399
Pressure. All of those things are mental skills

01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:06.300
that you can work on and build frameworks around.

01:15:06.500 --> 01:15:09.260
Some people need it. Some people don't. But I

01:15:09.260 --> 01:15:11.699
do think it's incredibly important. And how you're

01:15:11.699 --> 01:15:14.579
brought up and how you're coached from a young

01:15:14.579 --> 01:15:17.039
age also plays a huge role into that. So if your

01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:20.100
coaches are mindful of that and know how to talk

01:15:20.100 --> 01:15:22.520
to you and build those skills, then you probably

01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:25.760
don't need them. totally foreign to you, then

01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.840
very helpful. But the mental aspect is incredibly

01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:31.779
important. Some people are innately wired to

01:15:31.779 --> 01:15:35.899
have certain skills and mental skills required

01:15:35.899 --> 01:15:38.220
to be a high performance athlete and other people

01:15:38.220 --> 01:15:41.899
really have to work a lot harder at it. It's

01:15:41.899 --> 01:15:44.979
the same with anything. I think the skills that

01:15:44.979 --> 01:15:49.199
sports psychologists provide and the tools that

01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:52.710
they help athletes. develop over the course of

01:15:52.710 --> 01:15:56.210
their career are incredibly important. Some athletes

01:15:56.210 --> 01:15:59.569
require more hand -holding to get there and others

01:15:59.569 --> 01:16:02.750
don't. But I think the essence of what the sports

01:16:02.750 --> 01:16:04.989
psychologist represents and the tools that they

01:16:04.989 --> 01:16:09.029
are providing and helping athletes hone are so

01:16:09.029 --> 01:16:12.010
important if you want to reach a particular level.

01:16:12.210 --> 01:16:15.420
And useful in life. And in life. I know I say

01:16:15.420 --> 01:16:17.020
this every week, but I love these questions.

01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:19.500
These ones are really, really good. We could

01:16:19.500 --> 01:16:22.000
have done a two -hour podcast on these, I think.

01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:26.300
Oh, yeah. The questions were fantastic. Thank

01:16:26.300 --> 01:16:29.159
you so much. I love the engagement we're getting

01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:31.060
and the questions people are coming up with.

01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:33.180
We're both balling nerds. We could talk about

01:16:33.180 --> 01:16:35.939
this stuff forever. So it's fun. Thank you. All

01:16:35.939 --> 01:16:37.800
right. We have got some great volleyball for

01:16:37.800 --> 01:16:41.779
you this week. Wednesday, game two of the Italian

01:16:41.779 --> 01:16:44.119
women's quarterfinals are happening. So just

01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:48.159
a reminder, series are best two of three. So

01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:50.079
some of them could be over. Some of them could

01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:52.239
have a third game. But these will be very good

01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:54.279
matches. Until the final. And the final is three

01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:57.680
of five. Yeah. Yes. Wednesday and Thursday, we

01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:00.800
also have men's Champions League playoffs. So

01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:02.579
those will also be good. I believe those are

01:17:02.579 --> 01:17:05.329
the play -ins. For the quarterfinals. The Italian

01:17:05.329 --> 01:17:09.289
matches will be on FIVB TV and the men's Champions

01:17:09.289 --> 01:17:11.670
League matches will be on Euro Volley TV. Both

01:17:11.670 --> 01:17:13.949
of them accessible and you can check them out

01:17:13.949 --> 01:17:17.970
online. Wednesday and Friday at 10 p .m. Eastern,

01:17:18.149 --> 01:17:25.949
NCAA men have UCLA versus USC. A little LA rivalry

01:17:25.949 --> 01:17:29.970
happening. And a top five matchup. So those...

01:17:30.170 --> 01:17:31.729
Both of those matches on both of those nights

01:17:31.729 --> 01:17:34.229
should be very good games. Home and away series,

01:17:34.369 --> 01:17:36.829
baby. We don't have to check that one out live.

01:17:37.050 --> 01:17:40.310
Put baby in our headphones and away we go. Earmuffs.

01:17:42.529 --> 01:17:46.090
Thursday at 8 p .m. Eastern, NCAA men's ball

01:17:46.090 --> 01:17:48.970
state versus Loyola Chicago. So battle of the

01:17:48.970 --> 01:17:52.090
East with that one should be very good. And then

01:17:52.090 --> 01:17:55.609
Friday. Or Midwest, whatever. Well, East of here.

01:17:56.510 --> 01:17:59.869
Everything's East of here. And then Friday at

01:17:59.869 --> 01:18:02.390
8 p .m. Eastern, Love Houston versus Austin.

01:18:02.829 --> 01:18:06.390
That's on Victory Plus. Battle of Texas. We got

01:18:06.390 --> 01:18:09.750
a lot of rivalries going on this week. Saturday,

01:18:10.029 --> 01:18:13.149
9 p .m. Eastern, MLB San Diego versus Atlanta.

01:18:13.250 --> 01:18:15.470
That one's on YouTube. San Diego's coming on,

01:18:15.569 --> 01:18:19.050
you guys. They are. So Atlanta better watch out.

01:18:19.310 --> 01:18:21.670
And then Saturday and Sunday next week, game

01:18:21.670 --> 01:18:25.380
one of the Italian men's. quarterfinals lots

01:18:25.380 --> 01:18:27.680
of playoff volleyball and we all know playoff

01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:30.699
sports are the best tune in have it rolling get

01:18:30.699 --> 01:18:33.359
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01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:37.640
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