WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.279 Hi, volleyball fans, and welcome back to Volley 00:00:02.279 --> 00:00:04.480 Talk, the podcast created for volleyball lovers 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:06.900 who want to dig deep into what is going on in 00:00:06.900 --> 00:00:09.919 NCAA and international volleyball. I'm your host, 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:11.820 Sarah Pavan. I'm an Olympian, beach volleyball 00:00:11.820 --> 00:00:14.820 world champion, former Nebraska Cornhusker, and 00:00:14.820 --> 00:00:17.899 longtime pro, both indoor and on the beach. And 00:00:17.899 --> 00:00:20.039 I'm Adam Schultz, former indoor player, international 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:22.739 volleyball coach, and the show's resident stat 00:00:22.739 --> 00:00:26.559 guy. Okay, first things first, full disclosure 00:00:26.559 --> 00:00:31.170 here. We... We're out of town this week, visiting 00:00:31.170 --> 00:00:36.130 family. So we did not watch games, but that did 00:00:36.130 --> 00:00:39.630 not stop us because we still have a lot that 00:00:39.630 --> 00:00:42.490 we can talk about. Might not be your typical 00:00:42.490 --> 00:00:47.469 hour, hour and a half episode, but we are hitting 00:00:47.469 --> 00:00:52.250 up, of course, those listener questions, a segment 00:00:52.250 --> 00:00:56.000 that... a listener created. I think it was a 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:59.259 question, but we made it into a segment and there 00:00:59.259 --> 00:01:01.920 have been some happening. So even though we won't 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:04.620 be talking about specific games and we are very 00:01:04.620 --> 00:01:07.780 sorry about that, we're still going to have some 00:01:07.780 --> 00:01:11.159 fun. Okay. We are pumped. We always love doing 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:26.629 this with you guys. So let's get started. All 00:01:26.629 --> 00:01:30.650 right. You know what I'm going to ask you. Was, 00:01:30.670 --> 00:01:35.950 I know the answer to this already. Was your volley 00:01:35.950 --> 00:01:38.730 fantasy a highlight or a happening? Neither. 00:01:38.829 --> 00:01:41.549 It was awful. It was in the basement. I was packing 00:01:41.549 --> 00:01:45.709 on Monday. We traveled all day Tuesday. And the 00:01:45.709 --> 00:01:51.349 place we arrived at had no internet or cell service. 00:01:52.030 --> 00:01:54.890 And so by the time. No, we are not the Griswolds, 00:01:54.890 --> 00:01:58.140 everybody. We went to a national park, which 00:01:58.140 --> 00:02:02.859 technically could make us the Griswold. But you 00:02:02.859 --> 00:02:05.799 get the idea. It was an exceptional week. It 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:10.099 was amazing. We had a ton of fun. But Adam's 00:02:10.099 --> 00:02:12.139 fantasy did not have a ton of fun. And I had 00:02:12.139 --> 00:02:16.879 four contracts lapse this week. So I only had 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:21.159 two players and no bench players selected. What 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:24.729 he's saying is he did not. fill his roster. He 00:02:24.729 --> 00:02:28.430 did not sign his players. He's probably still 00:02:28.430 --> 00:02:31.770 ranked higher than me. What are you ranked? I 00:02:31.770 --> 00:02:35.949 am currently sitting at 181st. You know what? 00:02:35.949 --> 00:02:37.889 I've been ranked that when I have had all my 00:02:37.889 --> 00:02:42.250 contracts. I'm going to need to pull off something 00:02:42.250 --> 00:02:45.770 special here to get back into double digits. 00:02:45.969 --> 00:02:48.849 We'll see. What's your salary cap at? I got $113 00:02:48.849 --> 00:02:52.689 ,000. He's not doing that bad. I did not expect 00:02:52.689 --> 00:02:56.030 to not be able to get onto my phone. We're planning 00:02:56.030 --> 00:02:58.849 on my part, but what can you do? How are you 00:02:58.849 --> 00:03:02.069 doing? Thank you for asking. I am currently sitting 00:03:02.069 --> 00:03:04.750 in the mid -60s. Congrats. I've gained about 00:03:04.750 --> 00:03:09.069 20 places. This is a big week for Sarah. She's 00:03:09.069 --> 00:03:12.830 ahead of me by default. You know what? You don't 00:03:12.830 --> 00:03:16.349 have to clarify it like that. It's not my fault 00:03:16.349 --> 00:03:20.139 that you were thinking ahead. That's true. Charity 00:03:20.139 --> 00:03:21.819 Looper really screwed me over. And you know who 00:03:21.819 --> 00:03:23.780 my bench player was who did really terrible? 00:03:23.860 --> 00:03:26.479 Might as well have also done zero. Reagan Cooper. 00:03:27.500 --> 00:03:31.139 I had three bench players have to sub in. Because 00:03:31.139 --> 00:03:33.120 the players I picked were that bad. That's not 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:36.000 great. You know who was a star? Well, started 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:40.039 out as a star, but then kind of became average. 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:44.400 So it wasn't really a star on a bonjo. You know 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:46.159 who was my best player, though? I had a couple. 00:03:46.580 --> 00:03:50.219 Hit me. Raina Terry killed it for me this week. 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:52.520 And Elena Ogilvie. We're going to talk about 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.860 her later. Don't you worry. I've got a lot of 00:03:54.860 --> 00:03:57.460 work to do still. It would really be helpful 00:03:57.460 --> 00:03:59.020 if everybody else would forget to sign their 00:03:59.020 --> 00:04:02.800 contracts. So feel free to do that so I can gain 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:04.879 some more ground. Sarah wants to win by default. 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:07.680 That's that. They've made a lot of updates. It's 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:09.740 looking real snazzy. Yeah, they've done a really 00:04:09.740 --> 00:04:11.800 nice job with it. A lot cleaner look this week, 00:04:11.819 --> 00:04:14.139 I thought. I love that we're getting to play 00:04:14.139 --> 00:04:17.829 and see it evolve in real time. They're taking 00:04:17.829 --> 00:04:21.089 feedback. They're making updates. It's been a 00:04:21.089 --> 00:04:23.810 ton of fun. So many people are posting their 00:04:23.810 --> 00:04:26.750 roster choices on YouTube. It's fun to look at 00:04:26.750 --> 00:04:30.170 and see what people are thinking. Different strategies. 00:04:31.189 --> 00:04:34.250 Honestly, I don't have a strategy. Well, that's 00:04:34.250 --> 00:04:37.069 a problem. Wait, what's yours? Not to sign contracts. 00:04:37.350 --> 00:04:39.149 I'm not throwing my strategy out there mid -season. 00:04:39.529 --> 00:04:41.649 Okay, I don't know if I have a strategy. I'm 00:04:41.649 --> 00:04:43.769 just kind of like looking at how everybody's 00:04:43.769 --> 00:04:46.290 doing, trying to make it fit in my budget, you 00:04:46.290 --> 00:04:51.410 know, just keeping it basic. Just fulfilling 00:04:51.410 --> 00:04:54.829 the bare minimum requirements. It has made MLV 00:04:54.829 --> 00:04:56.670 much more interesting, which has been a lot of 00:04:56.670 --> 00:04:58.829 fun. I will say my phone did work, and that is 00:04:58.829 --> 00:05:02.089 the only thing I was checking. Notice she didn't 00:05:02.089 --> 00:05:04.750 offer to let me do my roster. I didn't think 00:05:04.750 --> 00:05:07.290 that you would forget. We almost had 400 teams 00:05:07.290 --> 00:05:10.420 in our league. I love seeing that. Join. Talk 00:05:10.420 --> 00:05:14.399 on the chat. Give me your strategy on the chat. 00:05:14.660 --> 00:05:17.339 Am I the only one without a strategy here? I 00:05:17.339 --> 00:05:19.879 can't be. Please make me feel better about this. 00:05:20.019 --> 00:05:23.160 Join our league at playvolley .com slash volley 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:28.379 talk. That is playvolley .com slash volley talk. 00:05:28.740 --> 00:05:30.699 Not too late to join everybody. You'll join right 00:05:30.699 --> 00:05:33.300 in the middle and you'll be around where Adam 00:05:33.300 --> 00:05:36.819 is right now. So come join the gang. It's a ton 00:05:36.819 --> 00:05:41.660 of fun. NCAA men. You were right, Adam. Lindenwood 00:05:41.660 --> 00:05:45.720 jumped. Let's go. To the position you predicted. 00:05:46.060 --> 00:05:49.800 Number 13. They jumped from number 18 to 13 after 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:53.259 their stellar performance the week before. Kind 00:05:53.259 --> 00:05:56.319 of putting Adam down with his volley fantasy 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:58.480 league stuff. So I wanted to build him up a little 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:02.139 bit with that. So great prediction. Try to use 00:06:02.139 --> 00:06:04.819 that for your league this week. A good series 00:06:04.819 --> 00:06:09.040 that we missed out on. But it looked great. USC, 00:06:09.300 --> 00:06:13.319 UC Irvine. USC won the first match in five. UC 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.480 Irvine won the second match in four. I might 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:18.779 have to do some. That was a 4 -5. Volleyball 00:06:18.779 --> 00:06:21.040 catch up this week. You say that every week. 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:22.899 And I do watch a lot of the games afterwards. 00:06:23.100 --> 00:06:26.839 I have a lot of work meetings where there might 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:28.860 be some volleyball in the background. Always 00:06:28.860 --> 00:06:34.300 on. On the other monitor. Purdue Fort Wayne beat 00:06:34.300 --> 00:06:38.639 number 12 McKendree in five. That'll hurt. Yeah. 00:06:38.980 --> 00:06:42.879 That'll hurt them. And Queens, North Carolina 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:45.639 beat Ohio State in five. That will also hurt. 00:06:45.860 --> 00:06:48.019 That will also hurt. But Ohio State beat them 00:06:48.019 --> 00:06:51.339 the day before. But it doesn't matter. Because 00:06:51.339 --> 00:06:53.019 they still lost to a team lower than them. So 00:06:53.019 --> 00:06:54.439 that's going to screw them over. Yeah. Yeah, 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:56.560 probably. Beating teams you're expected to beat 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:58.600 and losing to teams you're expected to beat is 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:00.930 not. Equal when it comes to rankings and things 00:07:00.930 --> 00:07:04.430 like that. Other than those interesting series 00:07:04.430 --> 00:07:07.389 there in Southern California and then a couple 00:07:07.389 --> 00:07:09.930 upsets, things were pretty smooth sailing. All 00:07:09.930 --> 00:07:14.089 right. MLV. Indy. Still at the top. Playing real 00:07:14.089 --> 00:07:19.350 well. Followed by Dallas, Omaha, Orlando. I didn't 00:07:19.350 --> 00:07:23.110 see. I knew Dallas was going to be good and competitive. 00:07:23.250 --> 00:07:26.389 I didn't see them being this good this quick. 00:07:26.470 --> 00:07:31.290 Adam. No. We had Atlanta and Dallas in reverse 00:07:31.290 --> 00:07:35.009 spots when we did our preseason prediction. Atlanta's 00:07:35.009 --> 00:07:37.470 in fifth. That's where we had Dallas and we had 00:07:37.470 --> 00:07:41.129 Atlanta being second. No, I know. But we said 00:07:41.129 --> 00:07:42.629 that we thought they were going to push teams. 00:07:42.730 --> 00:07:44.470 And we said we thought it would take Shannon 00:07:44.470 --> 00:07:47.189 a little bit of time to get her team going and 00:07:47.189 --> 00:07:48.750 that we thought they would be better by the end 00:07:48.750 --> 00:07:51.170 of the season. I think that's what we had talked 00:07:51.170 --> 00:07:53.970 about. I will say we have been pretty close with 00:07:53.970 --> 00:07:56.560 the rest of them, though. Yeah. Atlanta being 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:59.040 this bad is a little surprising. They can't get 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:02.160 it together. No. And Dallas, I really like their 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:04.800 roster composition. I think Shannon has hit the 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:06.379 ground running with her team. They're playing 00:08:06.379 --> 00:08:09.480 really well. I've been impressed so far. San 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:13.439 Diego is in sixth right now. They beat Indy in 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.399 four and Grand Rapids in five this week. Good 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:19.439 week. They've already doubled their total, and 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:21.920 they only did it in one week for them from the 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:25.149 whole season. Also not great. And then Omaha 00:08:25.149 --> 00:08:28.490 lost to Dallas in five and Orlando in three. 00:08:28.529 --> 00:08:31.149 That was a tough week from a competition perspective, 00:08:31.329 --> 00:08:33.169 but they lost both of them, so that's no good. 00:08:33.370 --> 00:08:35.669 Well, the expectations are super high. I mean, 00:08:35.669 --> 00:08:38.250 I think they're expecting to win the league. 00:08:38.669 --> 00:08:41.289 Well, yeah, you have a higher budget than everybody, 00:08:41.509 --> 00:08:46.590 I think. You're the driving force behind creating 00:08:46.590 --> 00:08:51.590 MLV. You signed and poached all the quote -unquote 00:08:51.590 --> 00:08:55.480 top players. Yes, I would say expectations are 00:08:55.480 --> 00:09:00.360 high. Columbus isn't last. I'm a little disappointed. 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:03.759 I thought they were going, I had higher hopes 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:07.240 for them. Me too, me too. We did have some news 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:09.000 though. Okay, first of all, before we get to 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:12.700 the news, I want you to explain this to me. I 00:09:12.700 --> 00:09:15.899 was looking at the transactions list. Mac Pedraza, 00:09:15.940 --> 00:09:19.899 she was waived by Atlanta before the season started. 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:24.620 In favor of Maddie Wack, who then Atlanta waived. 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:27.840 Try to figure that one out. On January 30th, 00:09:27.860 --> 00:09:32.820 Mac Pedraza signed with Orlando. On February 00:09:32.820 --> 00:09:36.059 2nd, she was waived. And then she signed with 00:09:36.059 --> 00:09:38.679 them again February 9th. Like, how does that 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:41.899 happen? Like, legit, genuine question. Contract 00:09:41.899 --> 00:09:45.679 dispute, maybe? What are we, the NHL? That seems 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.940 really strange. Somebody get hurt? No, it makes 00:09:48.940 --> 00:09:51.759 no sense to me. hey, we're going to sign a contract 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:53.320 with you, then we're going to cut you three days 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:56.940 later, but no, come back a week later. The MLV 00:09:56.940 --> 00:09:59.159 is taking these transactions to the extreme. 00:09:59.340 --> 00:10:01.559 They are waiving players left and right. I wonder 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.440 if there was some loophole or legality that was 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:06.539 wrong with the first contract and they had to 00:10:06.539 --> 00:10:08.600 put her on waivers to sign her again. I bet you 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:12.659 it has to do with some rules in how the league 00:10:12.659 --> 00:10:15.179 is operated with who you can waive. Because I 00:10:15.179 --> 00:10:16.799 know in some leagues, if you're going to pick 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:19.909 up a waived player, if another team... wants 00:10:19.909 --> 00:10:22.350 that player but they're ranked lower than you 00:10:22.350 --> 00:10:26.429 they get priority so maybe they had i don't know 00:10:26.429 --> 00:10:29.990 there's usually a bunch of technicalities around 00:10:29.990 --> 00:10:32.049 wave players and who can sign them so i wonder 00:10:32.049 --> 00:10:34.850 if they just jump the gun or they needed to wait 00:10:34.850 --> 00:10:37.590 a little bit longer to give another team a chance 00:10:37.590 --> 00:10:39.570 to see if they wanted her something along those 00:10:39.570 --> 00:10:42.090 lines that would be my best guess okay because 00:10:42.090 --> 00:10:45.320 that made absolutely no sense to me The rules 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:47.460 are off. But my thing is, why would you sign 00:10:47.460 --> 00:10:49.120 a player if you're just going to waive them again 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:53.159 tomorrow? Because Dallas did the same thing with 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:55.320 Claire Amaral. They signed her, and then the 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:58.399 week later, they waived her. What is happening? 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.759 Salary caps, constraints, or injury reports, 00:11:02.139 --> 00:11:05.120 or I don't know. Okay, I thought you would have 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:06.779 the answer for me. If somebody has the answer, 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:09.980 please let me know. But the news of the week 00:11:09.980 --> 00:11:15.840 that so many people... messaged us about. Morgan 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:23.139 Hentz was traded to Grand Rapids for Elena Ogilvie 00:11:23.139 --> 00:11:27.720 and a first round draft pick. I think Omaha did 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:30.100 better in this deal. Omaha! Thank you for saying 00:11:30.100 --> 00:11:36.580 that. Omaha rushed this trade. Grand Rapids, 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:38.440 what are you thinking? Have you not been following 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:41.419 how things are going this year? I'm sorry to 00:11:41.419 --> 00:11:44.750 say. Morgan Hentz has not been very good this 00:11:44.750 --> 00:11:48.769 season. No. And we had her on our list for potential 00:11:48.769 --> 00:11:52.289 roster for USA. It's because we couldn't think 00:11:52.289 --> 00:11:55.909 of anybody better. Yeah. So just keep that in 00:11:55.909 --> 00:11:58.230 mind, okay? We had the libero position as our 00:11:58.230 --> 00:12:01.269 weakest position, so come on. Grand Rapids is 00:12:01.269 --> 00:12:02.950 going to finish close to the bottom, so that's 00:12:02.950 --> 00:12:05.470 a very high pick. That's what I'm saying. And 00:12:05.470 --> 00:12:09.840 you're doing it for a libero? You are giving 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:12.179 up a first -round draft pick for somebody who 00:12:12.179 --> 00:12:14.639 doesn't even score you any points. I'm sorry. 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:18.799 I know liberos are important, but no team is 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:21.279 a libero away from being a contender. No, thank 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:24.519 you. I mean, sorry. Love liberos. Keep the ball 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:28.360 off the ground. Absolutely. You're great if you 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.519 know how to set, but you're not winning. No offense. 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:37.340 Liberos, put your keyboard fingers away. You're 00:12:37.340 --> 00:12:41.440 not winning championships by giving up. Yeah. 00:12:41.700 --> 00:12:44.240 Anyway. And Elena Ogilvie is having a great season. 00:12:44.419 --> 00:12:46.600 So not only did you give up a LeBaron who's having 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:49.539 a great season in favor of one who's not, but 00:12:49.539 --> 00:12:53.419 you gave away a good opportunity to make your 00:12:53.419 --> 00:12:56.720 team better. Next year. And give away somebody 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:00.360 who's helping you this year. Omaha was spic and 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.840 span slick Rick on this deal. This seems like 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:07.220 a. Somebody got somebody else drunk. I was just, 00:13:07.500 --> 00:13:10.220 I was going to say this happened in a cocktail 00:13:10.220 --> 00:13:13.320 party where they slipped the contract to the 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:15.759 GM. They were like, Morgan heads, you guys, best 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.940 libero in the league. Come on. Yes. And she has 00:13:18.940 --> 00:13:22.580 been the last two years, but hello, who's making 00:13:22.580 --> 00:13:25.639 these decisions? But Omaha clearly wanted to 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:28.019 get rid of her. That's the thing is like Grand 00:13:28.019 --> 00:13:29.899 Rapids should have been like, okay, we'll take 00:13:29.899 --> 00:13:33.399 her. We'll swap you liberos. You can get out 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:35.519 from your salary. Yeah, but give us a second 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.460 round draft pick. Instead of giving up a... Ridiculous. 00:13:39.820 --> 00:13:42.600 This, I've said this a few times, it's a fireable 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:45.080 offense. Fireable offense. I was just thinking 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:47.759 that. I wasn't going to say it so succinctly. 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:49.679 I was going to say, whoever made this decision 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:52.600 needs to be fired. No, there are just certain 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:55.019 things that are fireable offenses. You know what? 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:59.519 They need to consult with us. I mean, as with 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:03.710 all trades. Time will tell. I'm curious who they 00:14:03.710 --> 00:14:07.429 get with that draft pick, but this trade isn't 00:14:07.429 --> 00:14:10.809 going to age well. I'm sorry. For future reference, 00:14:10.990 --> 00:14:12.889 in case anybody out there is listening and cares 00:14:12.889 --> 00:14:15.389 about my opinion, probably not, but I'm going 00:14:15.389 --> 00:14:18.190 to say it anyway. You do not trade a first -round 00:14:18.190 --> 00:14:21.110 draft pick for a libero. First -round draft picks 00:14:21.110 --> 00:14:25.809 are for opposites and P1s. Or a very, very good 00:14:25.809 --> 00:14:34.090 setter. Maybe. Maybe. I'm disappointed. That's 00:14:34.090 --> 00:14:36.470 ridiculous. Anyway, that was the big news out 00:14:36.470 --> 00:14:39.049 of the MLB this week. Excuse me while I recover. 00:14:40.169 --> 00:14:43.990 Love Salt Lake. Brushing it. I love that team. 00:14:44.190 --> 00:14:46.990 They're 8 -1. Followed by Houston, who's at 6 00:14:46.990 --> 00:14:49.970 -3. And then everybody else is very mad. Houston 00:14:49.970 --> 00:14:54.309 with the 360. 360. They have not lost a game 00:14:54.309 --> 00:14:56.230 since their own three start. You know who's really 00:14:56.230 --> 00:15:00.129 sucking, though? Nebraska and Madison. Madison 00:15:00.129 --> 00:15:02.149 tricked everybody early in the season. They're 00:15:02.149 --> 00:15:03.590 like, you know what? Us in Houston were flip 00:15:03.590 --> 00:15:06.350 -flopping from last season. And then they couldn't 00:15:06.350 --> 00:15:08.730 keep up the farce any longer, and they're like, 00:15:08.750 --> 00:15:10.490 we're going to be back to where we were last 00:15:10.490 --> 00:15:14.370 year. Both Madison and Nebraska have lost at 00:15:14.370 --> 00:15:17.190 least four matches in a row. They are playing 00:15:17.190 --> 00:15:20.669 each other soon, though. Do you think this is 00:15:20.669 --> 00:15:24.230 a coaching issue or a roster issue? There are 00:15:24.230 --> 00:15:28.309 a lot of injuries on Madison. Didn't they have 00:15:28.309 --> 00:15:29.450 a lot of injuries last year? There's a lot of 00:15:29.450 --> 00:15:32.789 injuries on every team, I feel like. Jekima, 00:15:33.009 --> 00:15:37.450 the setter for Nebraska, was out with a, I'm 00:15:37.450 --> 00:15:40.049 assuming a concussion. I haven't watched, as 00:15:40.049 --> 00:15:42.250 we said, we didn't watch. So they probably had 00:15:42.250 --> 00:15:45.350 to play Gabby Blossom. Not an ideal front row 00:15:45.350 --> 00:15:47.909 option. So there's that. Opening the door for 00:15:47.909 --> 00:15:49.909 Bergen -Wrightley. Do I think it's a coaching 00:15:49.909 --> 00:15:55.330 issue? Well, I kind of feel like... Jordan Larson 00:15:55.330 --> 00:15:58.429 should basically be a player coach at this point. 00:15:59.169 --> 00:16:01.470 Fair. Because you've got Susie Fritz, whose experience 00:16:01.470 --> 00:16:06.590 extends to K -State. And Matt Furbringer was 00:16:06.590 --> 00:16:08.850 an assistant on the men's team and has coached 00:16:08.850 --> 00:16:12.490 club, I believe. I mean, Madison has Gong, who 00:16:12.490 --> 00:16:15.250 is arguably the best player in the league. He's 00:16:15.250 --> 00:16:16.970 outstanding. Or should be the best player in 00:16:16.970 --> 00:16:20.299 the league. They've got Carlini, who... Last 00:16:20.299 --> 00:16:22.179 year was a great setter. I haven't seen them 00:16:22.179 --> 00:16:24.379 play much this year, only a couple games. We'll 00:16:24.379 --> 00:16:26.440 need to watch a few more games in the next couple 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.840 of weeks. But when I saw that roster, I thought, 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:32.779 okay, they're going to be good this year. And 00:16:32.779 --> 00:16:35.179 it just hasn't happened. Now, I feel like Madison 00:16:35.179 --> 00:16:39.179 went on an obscene losing streak last year and 00:16:39.179 --> 00:16:42.799 then played better down the stretch. So I don't 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:47.179 know if Furbringers got some... more complicated 00:16:47.179 --> 00:16:49.399 schemes and things like that he's trying to implement 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:50.919 with the team. And it's just taking a little 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:54.820 bit of time to gel or we'll see, but I think 00:16:54.820 --> 00:16:56.559 they should be better than they are record wise. 00:16:56.940 --> 00:16:58.879 One of them is going to snap their losing streak 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:01.000 because they do play each other soon. Well, that's 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:04.900 not what you're looking for. Finally, we got 00:17:04.900 --> 00:17:07.779 some rule changes that are going to be tested 00:17:07.779 --> 00:17:13.420 in VNL 2026. This is not the full list. There 00:17:13.420 --> 00:17:17.920 are some more. But thanks to Avid Volley's Instagram 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:21.839 post, here are the highlights. This is not the 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:26.319 extensive list, but teams may adjust their service 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:28.599 -y positioning after the referee's whistle but 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:30.619 before serve contact. I don't like this rule. 00:17:30.819 --> 00:17:32.640 I feel like they were doing this last year. The 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:37.160 Chinese men were doing it. No, no. Last year 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:40.079 it was like you can move after the serve toss. 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:44.279 Yes. Now it's even longer. No, I hate this one. 00:17:45.230 --> 00:17:47.049 Now that I've thought about it a little closer, 00:17:47.150 --> 00:17:50.690 I don't like it. You should have to pass in the 00:17:50.690 --> 00:17:52.730 position you're supposed to be in. That makes 00:17:52.730 --> 00:17:55.589 volleyball volleyball. Yeah, it forces you to 00:17:55.589 --> 00:17:58.789 be skilled. It forces you to work on seams and 00:17:58.789 --> 00:18:03.390 communication between players. I understand wanting 00:18:03.390 --> 00:18:08.630 to make the game have longer rallies, make it 00:18:08.630 --> 00:18:10.829 more skilled. But as a server, you're going up 00:18:10.829 --> 00:18:13.079 and you're trying to pick seams. I don't want 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:15.019 people running around at the back of the court. 00:18:15.140 --> 00:18:17.359 I don't even care about it as a server. It's 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:19.920 just like the essence of volleyball is the fact 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.940 that the rotations exist. Yeah, I don't like 00:18:22.940 --> 00:18:25.660 this rule. I hope it dies on the vine this year. 00:18:25.740 --> 00:18:28.079 Everybody better give it negative reviews. The 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:30.240 arena ceiling may be treated as part of the playing 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:33.059 area, allowing rallies to continue after ball 00:18:33.059 --> 00:18:36.420 -to -ceiling contact in certain situations. Whatever. 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:38.259 I feel like this won't even come into play because 00:18:38.259 --> 00:18:40.599 they play in such high places. Like, they're 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:43.029 not playing at... University of Miami. Yeah. 00:18:43.130 --> 00:18:46.569 This is a nothing rule. If this actually comes 00:18:46.569 --> 00:18:48.569 into, like somebody's going to break their arms, 00:18:48.589 --> 00:18:51.890 like trying to hit the roof. This is very strange 00:18:51.890 --> 00:18:54.130 circumstances that it will happen. Teams may 00:18:54.130 --> 00:18:56.130 no longer call an immediate timeout following 00:18:56.130 --> 00:18:58.710 a challenge. Good. The challenge system should 00:18:58.710 --> 00:19:01.069 be revamped in general. We've talked about this 00:19:01.069 --> 00:19:04.509 in past episodes. Adam wants them to crack that 00:19:04.509 --> 00:19:08.619 whip, be aggressive and penalize people. for 00:19:08.619 --> 00:19:12.240 calling challenges at the end of sets, for being 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:16.339 petty. He wants punishment. Okay, liberos may 00:19:16.339 --> 00:19:18.980 serve in place of one designated player. Fine. 00:19:19.140 --> 00:19:22.420 I mean, I'm not a huge fan of it, but... But 00:19:22.420 --> 00:19:24.799 it doesn't change the essence of the game, and 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:28.420 it's whatever. The whole reason I love international 00:19:28.420 --> 00:19:30.680 volleyball is because it forces players to be 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:33.380 full players. Now, they're starting to trickle 00:19:33.380 --> 00:19:35.059 it out, and it's just like, oh, you're a middle, 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:38.380 now you don't have to serve. This is why I love 00:19:38.380 --> 00:19:40.519 international volleyball. How many liberals are 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:45.779 going to be great servers? Maybe a bunch. I still 00:19:45.779 --> 00:19:48.519 think if you have to use this rule, it's probably 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:51.400 hurting you. You know how many middles, though, 00:19:51.420 --> 00:19:54.460 are kind of bad servers? I know I just said it 00:19:54.460 --> 00:19:56.619 makes them you be a full player. They'll work 00:19:56.619 --> 00:19:59.200 on your serving. This to me is whatever. Try 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:02.960 it. See what happens. I don't hate it. I don't 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:05.039 really feel a particular way about it. I don't 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:07.019 hate it as much as this next rule. Are you ready? 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:11.180 Liberos may execute overhand sets inside the 00:20:11.180 --> 00:20:14.240 three -meter line without restriction. This is 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:18.119 absolutely absurd. I think what they're trying 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:23.119 to accomplish with this rule is fine, but I think 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:24.019 this rule... What are they trying to accomplish 00:20:24.019 --> 00:20:26.980 with this rule? What they're trying to get rid 00:20:26.980 --> 00:20:29.519 of is a really good dig by the setter that's 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:31.599 like a meter in front of the attack line and 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:35.720 the libero can't set it and run a good offense 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:37.440 because it's a little further. I don't care. 00:20:37.500 --> 00:20:39.180 That's volleyball. Yeah, but the libero... Maybe 00:20:39.180 --> 00:20:40.619 your middle should learn how to set with their 00:20:40.619 --> 00:20:42.819 hands. I mean, fine. If the rule was strictly... 00:20:42.819 --> 00:20:44.759 Maybe your libero should learn how to bump set. 00:20:45.059 --> 00:20:47.619 But you're not bump setting tempo. And a lot 00:20:47.619 --> 00:20:49.180 of these liberos are good enough to do that. 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:51.480 So dig a better ball. I think that this is absolutely 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:54.750 ridiculous. Well, you didn't let me finish. No, 00:20:54.769 --> 00:20:57.470 I was too passionate. I believe the essence of 00:20:57.470 --> 00:21:00.029 the rule when they came up with it is pertaining 00:21:00.029 --> 00:21:05.329 to that situation. But I think this rule could 00:21:05.329 --> 00:21:10.390 have massive unintended consequences where you 00:21:10.390 --> 00:21:14.670 now have five hitters on the floor and a libero 00:21:14.670 --> 00:21:17.509 who is actually a setter who can be back row 00:21:17.509 --> 00:21:19.950 all the time. You know what team I'm thinking 00:21:19.950 --> 00:21:23.190 about with this rule? Argentina men. Yeah. They're 00:21:23.190 --> 00:21:27.099 a setter. Sanchez is so undersized. You know 00:21:27.099 --> 00:21:30.420 what you could do? Just make Sanchez your libero. 00:21:30.539 --> 00:21:33.700 And then you could run your libero from position 00:21:33.700 --> 00:21:37.619 one. He never has to block. He never has to be 00:21:37.619 --> 00:21:40.140 a liability at the net. He can set from wherever 00:21:40.140 --> 00:21:44.200 he wants. Dig balls. Easy peasy. Lemon squeezy. 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:47.500 The only issue with that is you'd need a passing 00:21:47.500 --> 00:21:49.880 right side. Because you'd still need another 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:54.029 passer. Okay. Yeah. This rule to me is similar 00:21:54.029 --> 00:21:58.569 to the jump setting handset in beach volleyball 00:21:58.569 --> 00:22:04.170 where you had two guys from Sweden come out and 00:22:04.170 --> 00:22:06.589 do it and they ended up winning and dominating 00:22:06.589 --> 00:22:08.829 and it changed the game forever. You're going 00:22:08.829 --> 00:22:11.769 to have one team who figures out how to run this 00:22:11.769 --> 00:22:15.809 libero setter combination with five hitters all 00:22:15.809 --> 00:22:18.559 the time. coming at you. You could literally 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:21.839 have two back row attackers and three front row 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:24.359 attackers at all times. Yeah. This opens the 00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:27.099 door for things I don't think they believe will 00:22:27.099 --> 00:22:28.779 happen. And again, they're testing out rules. 00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:32.960 That's fine. But this rule could have massive 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:36.019 unintended consequences. And like a lot of teams 00:22:36.019 --> 00:22:39.400 and most teams probably won't exploit it in that 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:42.220 way. And not for a year. Like that rule would 00:22:42.220 --> 00:22:45.480 need to stay in place. But there are certain 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:50.880 teams who, you know, maybe have a huge hole when 00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:53.420 their setters front row who might want to use 00:22:53.420 --> 00:22:56.799 it. Yeah. I mean, look at, I mean, Micah Christensen 00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:59.140 is a pretty good blocker, but can you imagine 00:22:59.140 --> 00:23:01.799 you, he could set five hitters all the time. 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:06.900 That would be wild. I mean, this is, this is 00:23:06.900 --> 00:23:09.099 the worst role of all time. Like, why do we have 00:23:09.099 --> 00:23:11.460 to change stuff? I know I'm a volleyball purist, 00:23:11.500 --> 00:23:14.849 but this one is. Who was sitting in that room, 00:23:15.029 --> 00:23:17.509 A, who proposed this, and then who were the people 00:23:17.509 --> 00:23:19.369 who looked around and were like, oh, yeah, I 00:23:19.369 --> 00:23:23.650 love that. Well, I guarantee some of these are 00:23:23.650 --> 00:23:25.549 stat -driven. It's like, here's how many balls 00:23:25.549 --> 00:23:27.450 the barrel bumps set in front of the attack line. 00:23:27.450 --> 00:23:28.750 You know what? Let's just let them hand set. 00:23:28.910 --> 00:23:31.630 Too bad. Well. That's your position. I'm not 00:23:31.630 --> 00:23:34.490 sure they thought through what the unintended 00:23:34.490 --> 00:23:36.230 consequences could be, but I think. You would 00:23:36.230 --> 00:23:38.130 think that they did, though. And they were probably 00:23:38.130 --> 00:23:41.109 like, baha. Nobody's going to do it. You wait. 00:23:41.329 --> 00:23:43.759 Somebody will do it. I really hope somebody does 00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:46.319 it. The substitution limit will increase from 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:48.819 six to eight. Don't love it. I don't love it 00:23:48.819 --> 00:23:50.519 either. That's another reason I love international 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:53.480 volleyball. Play a full game. Coaches may mark 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:55.720 specific moments during rallies for potential 00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:59.160 review and select one moment to challenge after 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:02.299 the rally concludes. I like that. Your challenges 00:24:02.299 --> 00:24:04.700 should be specific, not I'm looking through the 00:24:04.700 --> 00:24:06.839 whole rally to try and score a point. Do you 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:09.000 think that's what it is? That's how I interpreted 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:10.859 the rule. They've got a library of moments after 00:24:10.859 --> 00:24:13.119 each play and then they're like, let's pick this 00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:15.519 one. No, but you go, hey, I'm going to choose, 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:20.019 look for this moment, a net touch anywhere. And 00:24:20.019 --> 00:24:22.940 then you have to watch the whole rally. And then 00:24:22.940 --> 00:24:25.759 give me the point because the ball was in. Yeah. 00:24:25.859 --> 00:24:28.079 You want to challenge a call, you should know 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:30.819 what you're challenging. Final one that we were 00:24:30.819 --> 00:24:32.960 going to talk about. Challenges may now include 00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:35.579 verifying ball touches during reception or defensive 00:24:35.579 --> 00:24:38.259 plays. I think that's fine. I'm unwell with some 00:24:38.259 --> 00:24:40.339 of these, though. I mean, most of them are whatever. 00:24:40.700 --> 00:24:43.980 I think the libero rule, if it stays in place, 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:47.359 could have far -reaching effects. I'm a volleyball 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:50.259 curmudgeon. Don't change it. It's not broken. 00:24:50.579 --> 00:24:54.940 Even though we weren't able to watch, I would 00:24:54.940 --> 00:24:57.759 say that a lot happened. A lot was going on. 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:01.299 No shortage of stuff to talk about. Biggest happening, 00:25:01.579 --> 00:25:04.359 biggest highlight, I'm ahead of Adam in our fantasy 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:10.109 league. And I'm mad about rule changes. So we'll 00:25:10.109 --> 00:25:13.670 be back with some volleyball specific stuff for 00:25:13.670 --> 00:25:16.470 matches we watch week. Okay. So we're going to 00:25:16.470 --> 00:25:19.430 continue with the listener suggested segments. 00:25:19.470 --> 00:25:22.009 And this one is going to be about blocking. So 00:25:22.009 --> 00:25:26.470 we had somebody write in and they had a whole 00:25:26.470 --> 00:25:27.869 bunch of questions. So we're going to tackle 00:25:27.869 --> 00:25:30.529 them kind of one at a time. before we go over 00:25:30.529 --> 00:25:32.650 the whole thing. So the first one is, can you 00:25:32.650 --> 00:25:34.349 explain the strengths and weaknesses of different 00:25:34.349 --> 00:25:37.250 blocking schemes such as bunch, read, and spread? 00:25:37.809 --> 00:25:40.849 And I think it's helpful to clarify a couple 00:25:40.849 --> 00:25:45.349 of these things. So bunch and spread are lineups 00:25:45.349 --> 00:25:48.549 of where you start your block when the ball is 00:25:48.549 --> 00:25:51.410 on the other side of the net. And if you look 00:25:51.410 --> 00:25:54.490 at read, and the other option for that would 00:25:54.490 --> 00:25:58.309 be a commit block, those are more decisions that 00:25:58.309 --> 00:26:00.880 you're making. as the play's developing. I would 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:04.720 say more middle focused. Correct. You could be 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.859 running a read bunch block or a commit spread 00:26:07.859 --> 00:26:11.859 block. So those things generally pair together. 00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:14.519 Why don't you walk us through the difference 00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:19.019 between bunch and spread blocking and where you 00:26:19.019 --> 00:26:21.559 would use them? Because I think some people have 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:23.799 the opinion of one is better than the other, 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:27.759 but they're just situationally useful against 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:30.480 different teams. You feel free to fill in the 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:35.819 gaps. Sure. Bunch blocking is, so if you think 00:26:35.819 --> 00:26:44.059 of the net in three segments, the outside blockers 00:26:44.059 --> 00:26:49.180 or the wing blockers are much closer to their 00:26:49.180 --> 00:26:52.920 border with the middle segment, I would say. 00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:56.440 They're all like squeezed together at the net. 00:26:57.180 --> 00:27:00.460 Whereas a spread block, you see the two outside 00:27:00.460 --> 00:27:05.180 blockers standing closer to the antennas. So 00:27:05.180 --> 00:27:07.599 the three blockers are very spread apart. That's 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:12.640 the name. For a bunch block, I would say if you 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:19.420 have a team who runs a lot of combo plays, who 00:27:19.420 --> 00:27:24.430 really moves their middle around. And the middle 00:27:24.430 --> 00:27:27.369 is a really effective attacker who's there incorporating 00:27:27.369 --> 00:27:31.470 a lot of effective back row attacks. Basically, 00:27:31.549 --> 00:27:35.809 high level volleyball, I would say. That's where 00:27:35.809 --> 00:27:38.609 a bunch block is useful. If you're in a lower 00:27:38.609 --> 00:27:40.930 level, I would say a bunch block could also be 00:27:40.930 --> 00:27:44.289 useful against a really slow offense. When the 00:27:44.289 --> 00:27:48.549 middle's moving around, you want your big outside 00:27:48.549 --> 00:27:53.319 blockers to help. Ideally, you want two or three 00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:59.059 people blocking every single attack. And in order 00:27:59.059 --> 00:28:01.539 to do that, your right side blocker will have 00:28:01.539 --> 00:28:04.859 to help if the middle runs a gap attack. You 00:28:04.859 --> 00:28:07.160 want your right side to help on a pipe attack. 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:10.279 You want your left side to help if the middle 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:15.319 runs a quick behind. Things like that are better 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:20.220 accomplished in a bunch block formation. For 00:28:20.220 --> 00:28:23.240 spread blocking, if an offense is really fast 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:27.140 to the point that a bunch block is just not going 00:28:27.140 --> 00:28:30.500 to take anything away, a spread block might be 00:28:30.500 --> 00:28:33.660 more effective to at least get one blocker up 00:28:33.660 --> 00:28:37.319 because one is better than zero. If a team doesn't 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:40.500 really incorporate a back row attack or runs 00:28:40.500 --> 00:28:45.319 very basic with their middles, a spread blocking 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.589 scheme is more useful because You're not going 00:28:48.589 --> 00:28:53.130 to get the most use out of your wing blockers 00:28:53.130 --> 00:28:55.569 in scenarios like that. You don't want to waste 00:28:55.569 --> 00:28:59.309 the personnel that you have if your opponents 00:28:59.309 --> 00:29:04.329 aren't going to make them useful. What did I 00:29:04.329 --> 00:29:06.450 miss? No, I don't think you missed anything. 00:29:07.150 --> 00:29:10.470 I would just add to that, like you said, I think 00:29:10.470 --> 00:29:14.529 most teams start bunch blocking if we're talking 00:29:14.529 --> 00:29:17.329 about high -level volleyball because... the middles 00:29:17.329 --> 00:29:20.609 move around the pipes so effective you want to 00:29:20.609 --> 00:29:23.250 have as many blockers involved as possible and 00:29:23.250 --> 00:29:27.490 you see teams move to a spread if they're getting 00:29:27.490 --> 00:29:30.250 beat by a super fast offense or a hitter who 00:29:30.250 --> 00:29:32.529 really likes to hit down the line you can block 00:29:32.529 --> 00:29:34.250 cross -court on a bunch block because you don't 00:29:34.250 --> 00:29:36.809 have to get as far you know so you're you can 00:29:36.809 --> 00:29:39.490 also run a hybrid your middle and your left side 00:29:39.490 --> 00:29:41.509 could bunch block and your right side blocker 00:29:41.509 --> 00:29:44.769 could take a step outside so it's More about 00:29:44.769 --> 00:29:47.450 where you're starting to make sure your blockers 00:29:47.450 --> 00:29:50.609 are in a position to do the job and the responsibility 00:29:50.609 --> 00:29:53.490 of the game plan. Yeah, I mean, for example, 00:29:53.690 --> 00:29:57.009 like if I as a right side blocker, if I saw the 00:29:57.009 --> 00:30:00.130 middle running a quick attack behind the setter. 00:30:00.730 --> 00:30:02.930 and they were overloading the left side with 00:30:02.930 --> 00:30:06.569 a right side attack or two, I always started 00:30:06.569 --> 00:30:09.849 in a bunch formation, but I would take a step 00:30:09.849 --> 00:30:12.789 to my right because now I don't need to worry 00:30:12.789 --> 00:30:14.849 about helping on a quick attack. The middle's 00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:18.569 out of my zone. So the only options left to me 00:30:18.569 --> 00:30:23.910 are my left side and my pipe attack. And I'm 00:30:23.910 --> 00:30:27.509 long enough that taking that one step out is 00:30:27.509 --> 00:30:29.650 not going to take me out of blocking either one. 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:34.200 So it's also about seeing how the play develops 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:39.779 and making adjustments on the fly as well. But 00:30:39.779 --> 00:30:44.079 what we are seeing a lot of is people are trying 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:49.180 to do a bunch block and counterattack the speed 00:30:49.180 --> 00:30:53.259 by having their outside blockers completely turn 00:30:53.259 --> 00:30:57.559 their hips and have their first step done of 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.369 their swing block already. This is probably a 00:31:00.369 --> 00:31:02.809 hot take. I think that's completely pointless. 00:31:03.170 --> 00:31:05.930 Because how the heck do you think you're going 00:31:05.930 --> 00:31:09.029 to adequately help anybody on the block when 00:31:09.029 --> 00:31:11.730 your hips are pointing the wrong way? It completely 00:31:11.730 --> 00:31:13.609 defeats the purpose of bunch blocking. You might 00:31:13.609 --> 00:31:15.109 as well just be in a spread block. You're not 00:31:15.109 --> 00:31:19.309 going to be an effective help if your hips are 00:31:19.309 --> 00:31:22.470 completely turned to the direction you're not 00:31:22.470 --> 00:31:24.910 going to be helping. Totally. Just get out there 00:31:24.910 --> 00:31:28.210 in that case. Yeah, it makes zero sense. I don't 00:31:28.210 --> 00:31:32.579 like... Every college team does it. Team USA 00:31:32.579 --> 00:31:36.380 does it. It just makes absolutely no sense to 00:31:36.380 --> 00:31:39.119 me. I agree with you. So those are your starting 00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.880 positions with the bunch or the spread blocking. 00:31:43.180 --> 00:31:45.500 And then the next part of the question was about 00:31:45.500 --> 00:31:49.539 read blocking. Now, read blocking works along 00:31:49.539 --> 00:31:52.400 with commit blocking. And again, as Sarah mentioned, 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.750 is normally a middle. commit. You don't generally 00:31:56.750 --> 00:31:59.089 have outsides committing. And what that means 00:31:59.089 --> 00:32:02.589 is as the play's developing, you're making slight 00:32:02.589 --> 00:32:05.890 adjustments to your positioning based on what 00:32:05.890 --> 00:32:08.509 you're reading as the play develops. Good pass, 00:32:08.750 --> 00:32:11.150 bad pass, the routes of the hitters, are they 00:32:11.150 --> 00:32:14.069 moving around? Is the ball off the net at the 00:32:14.069 --> 00:32:16.450 attack line? Did the pass remove any options? 00:32:16.650 --> 00:32:19.549 And you go and you work to maximize your position 00:32:19.549 --> 00:32:21.829 for your responsibility as the play develops. 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.200 That's what read blocking is. And then you're 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.380 waiting for the setter to actually deliver the 00:32:26.380 --> 00:32:28.940 ball. And then you're moving to block that hitter. 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:32.079 So that's read blocking in a nutshell. Now commit 00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.079 blocking is when let's say the opposing team 00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.839 has a very good middle. And we as a defending 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.299 team might decide every time there's a really 00:32:41.299 --> 00:32:43.779 good pass, our middle blocker is going to jump 00:32:43.779 --> 00:32:46.019 with their middle attacker just so that he's 00:32:46.019 --> 00:32:48.700 in the air so that he can take up that space. 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.500 And you generally only do that on a middle and 00:32:52.500 --> 00:32:55.660 you're making sure that he is not beating, he 00:32:55.660 --> 00:32:57.859 or she is not beating you with that quick attack. 00:32:58.099 --> 00:33:00.599 And that's really the difference between the 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.920 read and the commit block. The pros of the commit 00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:07.160 block is you're in that hitter's face and you're 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.099 letting the setter and the hitter know that you're 00:33:09.099 --> 00:33:11.440 there and you're prepared for that attack. So 00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:13.700 that's a pro, especially if a team likes to run 00:33:13.700 --> 00:33:16.269 the middle. Or if you've identified they like 00:33:16.269 --> 00:33:18.690 to run it in certain situations, you know, maybe 00:33:18.690 --> 00:33:22.569 rotation two on good passes or after a timeout 00:33:22.569 --> 00:33:25.710 or after a bad pass. You know, if you have a 00:33:25.710 --> 00:33:27.869 read on when the setter is going to run the middle, 00:33:27.930 --> 00:33:31.230 you can use a commit. The cons of the commit 00:33:31.230 --> 00:33:34.940 block is that if they don't set the middle. you're 00:33:34.940 --> 00:33:37.559 in the air the chances of you closing that block 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.259 to the outside are very slim unless it's a super 00:33:40.259 --> 00:33:42.319 high set which doesn't generally happen you're 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:46.220 gonna be one -on -one at the pins now the pros 00:33:46.220 --> 00:33:49.099 with the reed blocking is that you're constantly 00:33:49.099 --> 00:33:51.180 moving and shifting your position so ideally 00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:54.059 you're in the best spot to do your specific job 00:33:54.059 --> 00:33:57.980 the cons of that is you might give up the really 00:33:57.980 --> 00:33:59.779 quick attack in the middle because you're not 00:33:59.779 --> 00:34:02.420 in the air and sometimes it happens so fast that 00:34:02.420 --> 00:34:05.789 you can't Make that block once you see what's 00:34:05.789 --> 00:34:08.909 happening. So again, it's situational based off 00:34:08.909 --> 00:34:10.929 what your opponent likes to do and the quality 00:34:10.929 --> 00:34:14.070 of the pass. What's your favorite blocking scheme? 00:34:15.150 --> 00:34:17.809 The one that works. Give me a bunch read all 00:34:17.809 --> 00:34:21.329 day, baby. Yeah, you want to start with a bunch 00:34:21.329 --> 00:34:23.550 read because it gives you the most flexibility. 00:34:23.650 --> 00:34:26.710 And then depending on what your opponent's strengths 00:34:26.710 --> 00:34:29.190 are, you make adjustments from there. If you're 00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:32.300 fast enough to bunch read against a team. That's 00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:36.039 your best option. The follow -up parts to this 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:40.300 question slash segment is, in your opinion, is 00:34:40.300 --> 00:34:43.000 bad blocking technique the reason that we've 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.039 seen an increase in double sub usage across all 00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.500 of women's volleyball, or is it just a simple 00:34:48.500 --> 00:34:50.760 desire to have more height in the front row? 00:34:50.940 --> 00:34:53.619 This is interesting because I think a lot of 00:34:53.619 --> 00:34:58.659 coaches do equate. more height with better blocking 00:34:58.659 --> 00:35:03.599 false which is not true I give me a tall blocker 00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:05.699 all day who just throws their hands in the air 00:35:05.699 --> 00:35:10.139 so easy to tool good blocking is about taking 00:35:10.139 --> 00:35:14.039 space around your shoulders and how far over 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:18.739 the net you're able to go to cut down on angles 00:35:18.739 --> 00:35:21.280 available to the hitter it doesn't matter how 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.760 high your hands are above the net and I think 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:29.019 that so many coaches make those subs when if 00:35:29.019 --> 00:35:33.000 you just train your setters or smaller hitters 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:37.440 to get their hands just over the net fast, they 00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.960 could be very good blockers. Agreed. And I also 00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:44.219 think the double sub is more often used for offensive 00:35:44.219 --> 00:35:47.159 weapons than blocking subs. But you often do 00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.239 see like a straight up blocker come in for the 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.500 setter, no setter on the court, come right off 00:35:53.500 --> 00:35:55.920 again. Maybe the setter is a terrible blocker. 00:35:55.940 --> 00:35:58.059 Who knows? Maybe the person coming in is a really 00:35:58.059 --> 00:36:00.920 good blocker. If that is the case, do it all 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:03.440 day. If you're just trying to put up some big 00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:06.280 sticks up there, not always the smartest option, 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:08.500 I don't think. No, I totally agree with that. 00:36:08.619 --> 00:36:10.940 Blocking is a lot about timing, technique, and 00:36:10.940 --> 00:36:13.579 discipline, more so than just being tall. But 00:36:13.579 --> 00:36:16.139 I think, in general, the double sub is more of 00:36:16.139 --> 00:36:19.780 an offensive choice than a defensive one. The 00:36:19.780 --> 00:36:22.300 last thing... I will say, since we're talking 00:36:22.300 --> 00:36:24.719 about blocking and you know, this person alluded 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:27.880 to bad blocking technique and I figured we would 00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:31.739 highlight a few things here that blockers often 00:36:31.739 --> 00:36:36.179 get wrong. And I would say the first kind of 00:36:36.179 --> 00:36:38.679 mindset piece that blockers do is they try and 00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.739 get blocks and they move their hands if they 00:36:41.739 --> 00:36:45.639 see something. Your goal is to work in tandem 00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:48.440 with your defenders. So you need to take away 00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:51.460 your responsibility. you know you if you're an 00:36:51.460 --> 00:36:53.760 outside hitter in your middle need to create 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:56.860 a wall essentially of court that can't be hit 00:36:56.860 --> 00:36:59.260 so your defenders can slide and play around you 00:36:59.260 --> 00:37:01.420 you're not necessarily looking to score a point 00:37:01.420 --> 00:37:03.380 you're looking to get a transition opportunity 00:37:03.380 --> 00:37:06.480 so bad hand position in my opinion is one of 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.619 the most critical errors blockers make and it's 00:37:10.619 --> 00:37:13.340 usually they're trying to reach for the ball 00:37:13.340 --> 00:37:16.760 or a spot and they're opening up seams or exposing 00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:18.920 their elbows and shoulders to get hit by the 00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:22.780 hitter so I think that's One of the main deficiencies 00:37:22.780 --> 00:37:28.039 I see with blockers. I often see people go up 00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:33.360 and then over instead of like penetrating the 00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:36.820 plane of the net as soon as they're above the 00:37:36.820 --> 00:37:39.360 net. You often see hitter blockers like try to 00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:42.199 time the press of their block by doing an up 00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:46.380 to down motion. Not great. And I mean, when you're 00:37:46.380 --> 00:37:50.690 blocking like the hitter. in most scenarios has 00:37:50.690 --> 00:37:54.050 the advantage. You need to be disciplined because 00:37:54.050 --> 00:37:56.530 you're already at a disadvantage. And then if 00:37:56.530 --> 00:37:58.590 you're doing all this extraneous stuff, you're 00:37:58.590 --> 00:38:01.329 putting yourself at a greater disadvantage. So 00:38:01.329 --> 00:38:06.369 like the more little movement possible, the better. 00:38:06.889 --> 00:38:10.929 And I will say for coaches teaching kids, often 00:38:10.929 --> 00:38:15.030 we want to go right into a swing block, but you 00:38:15.030 --> 00:38:19.530 should be working footwork, positioning and hands 00:38:19.530 --> 00:38:22.429 over the net before you go to a full swing block. 00:38:22.730 --> 00:38:26.070 Those things will allow you to be disciplined 00:38:26.070 --> 00:38:28.590 on your block. They will allow your players to 00:38:28.590 --> 00:38:30.869 learn and they don't have to worry so much about 00:38:30.869 --> 00:38:33.789 timing and finishing the block at the correct 00:38:33.789 --> 00:38:36.429 time. You should be teaching blocking sequentially 00:38:36.429 --> 00:38:39.570 with those being the foundation and then moving 00:38:39.570 --> 00:38:42.070 into a swing block when those things in the eye 00:38:42.070 --> 00:38:46.150 work is down pat. I'm not going to lie to you. 00:38:46.190 --> 00:38:49.409 I never swing blocked. You don't need to. I'm 00:38:49.409 --> 00:38:51.469 not saying it's right. I'm not saying that it 00:38:51.469 --> 00:38:56.269 was the best choice. But like for me, with the 00:38:56.269 --> 00:38:59.989 blocking responsibilities I had indoor, I found 00:38:59.989 --> 00:39:04.050 it easier to be able to execute those responsibilities 00:39:04.050 --> 00:39:07.650 by doing like the side shuffle step. Yeah. And 00:39:07.650 --> 00:39:09.409 I think that's probably the case. Call me a dinosaur. 00:39:09.550 --> 00:39:14.030 I don't care. It is effective a lot of the time. 00:39:14.510 --> 00:39:17.789 If you're fundamentally sound blocker, because 00:39:17.789 --> 00:39:20.829 people swing block because it gets you quote 00:39:20.829 --> 00:39:23.369 unquote higher, which we've talked about. But 00:39:23.369 --> 00:39:25.650 most of the time, if you're a disciplined blocker, 00:39:25.690 --> 00:39:29.090 people aren't going over top of you. But you 00:39:29.090 --> 00:39:32.309 don't need those three inches. You need to be 00:39:32.309 --> 00:39:34.130 disciplined with your hands in the right place. 00:39:34.190 --> 00:39:35.829 Well, I think the thing with swing blocking for 00:39:35.829 --> 00:39:38.429 me is I always found that it created too much 00:39:38.429 --> 00:39:41.849 movement for me, like with my arms. bringing 00:39:41.849 --> 00:39:44.170 my arms up and around, I felt like it created 00:39:44.170 --> 00:39:47.230 too much movement that way. And then I was able 00:39:47.230 --> 00:39:51.170 to create a more stable foundation to set the 00:39:51.170 --> 00:39:54.429 block for my middle when I use the shuffle step 00:39:54.429 --> 00:39:57.889 instead of like potentially like drifting. Do 00:39:57.889 --> 00:40:00.550 you know what I mean? Totally. Again, swing blocking 00:40:00.550 --> 00:40:03.429 is a very high level skill and you need to have 00:40:03.429 --> 00:40:06.329 your blocking fundamentals in place and you didn't 00:40:06.329 --> 00:40:08.449 need to get any higher. If you were disciplined 00:40:08.449 --> 00:40:11.059 and your hands were in the right place. nobody 00:40:11.059 --> 00:40:13.480 was going over top of you no over top was not 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.420 the issue and i wouldn't even say that i was 00:40:16.420 --> 00:40:19.219 like that good of a blocker indoor i would say 00:40:19.219 --> 00:40:22.500 i became a much better blocker as i started playing 00:40:22.500 --> 00:40:25.260 beach well i hope that was informative if there's 00:40:25.260 --> 00:40:27.639 any other questions about blocking feel free 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.320 to send us a message email instagram youtube 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:33.159 we love talking about the technical stuff so 00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:36.139 i hope you found that helpful blocking 101 i 00:40:36.139 --> 00:40:40.599 think this is 201 201 All right, let's dive in 00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:44.300 to our listener questions for the week. Question 00:40:44.300 --> 00:40:47.880 one is, how much do you think removing the double 00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:51.099 contact rules has impacted the development of 00:40:51.099 --> 00:40:54.519 setters? Honestly, I don't think very much at 00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:56.760 all. I believe the double rule is still in place 00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.440 for youth, at least in some places. This person 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:01.820 alluded, I wasn't going to include this part 00:41:01.820 --> 00:41:03.980 just to put it out there. I was not going to 00:41:03.980 --> 00:41:07.329 include this part of the question. Made me clarify. 00:41:07.409 --> 00:41:10.670 The follow -up part of the question is, I saw 00:41:10.670 --> 00:41:13.090 a take that said Swindle's growth as a setter 00:41:13.090 --> 00:41:15.670 was hindered by her not being penalized for doubles. 00:41:15.849 --> 00:41:18.389 I wanted to leave it out. I don't know all of 00:41:18.389 --> 00:41:20.590 the Federation's rules for youth volleyball at 00:41:20.590 --> 00:41:23.530 this point, but let's assume that double contacts 00:41:23.530 --> 00:41:27.429 are taken out of youth setting. I still don't 00:41:27.429 --> 00:41:30.949 know. If it makes that much of a difference from 00:41:30.949 --> 00:41:33.170 a development standpoint, because the coaches 00:41:33.170 --> 00:41:35.369 who are going to teach setting correctly are 00:41:35.369 --> 00:41:37.730 still going to do it. And the ones who weren't 00:41:37.730 --> 00:41:39.849 going to teach it correctly are still not going 00:41:39.849 --> 00:41:43.650 to do it. Like, I don't think taking that rule 00:41:43.650 --> 00:41:46.590 out will fundamentally change how setters are 00:41:46.590 --> 00:41:49.769 trained, you know, and I don't think. that it 00:41:49.769 --> 00:41:52.750 makes any difference in competition to whistle 00:41:52.750 --> 00:41:56.309 a set down. I just don't think that's the defining 00:41:56.309 --> 00:41:59.329 rule change that's going to make or break setters 00:41:59.329 --> 00:42:01.650 at a young age. Well, at the end of the day, 00:42:01.690 --> 00:42:05.250 if a setter is doubling balls that badly, their 00:42:05.250 --> 00:42:07.369 location is probably terrible. They're not getting 00:42:07.369 --> 00:42:09.510 recruited. The reality of it is it's in your 00:42:09.510 --> 00:42:13.030 best interest to not double the ball. Now, whether 00:42:13.030 --> 00:42:15.070 you do that because you have lazy feet or you 00:42:15.070 --> 00:42:17.309 get around the ball or you do things quote unquote 00:42:17.309 --> 00:42:21.489 properly. None of that is hindered on that piece 00:42:21.489 --> 00:42:24.389 of the end result of the set. Those who are going 00:42:24.389 --> 00:42:26.489 to do it right will still do it right. And those 00:42:26.489 --> 00:42:28.630 who aren't going to do it right still won't. 00:42:28.650 --> 00:42:31.210 Question two. I'm not sure if you guys have any 00:42:31.210 --> 00:42:33.489 insider knowledge on this or not, but I was wondering 00:42:33.489 --> 00:42:35.809 the ins and outs of love recruiting players. 00:42:35.969 --> 00:42:38.750 For example, I would have expected Mimi Collier 00:42:38.750 --> 00:42:41.989 and or Heredia Cologne to play for love and not 00:42:41.989 --> 00:42:45.110 MLV, but maybe every love team already had their 00:42:45.110 --> 00:42:48.159 roster full of outsides. Or would there be a 00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.579 reason a player would want to play MLV instead 00:42:50.579 --> 00:42:54.880 of love? Okay, so when you are a foreign athlete, 00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.360 you are from a different country and you don't 00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:00.940 play professionally in your own country, you 00:43:00.940 --> 00:43:04.579 have to pay a transfer fee. So like the club 00:43:04.579 --> 00:43:06.840 that takes you or the country that takes you 00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:10.099 has to pay a fee to your National Volleyball 00:43:10.099 --> 00:43:13.539 Federation for like borrowing you for the club 00:43:13.539 --> 00:43:21.150 season. transfer fee is so high so maybe like 00:43:21.150 --> 00:43:23.570 it's a question of love didn't want to deal with 00:43:23.570 --> 00:43:26.949 that but mlv was like okay sure that makes sense 00:43:26.949 --> 00:43:30.409 or maybe they made got a higher offer salary 00:43:30.409 --> 00:43:35.590 wise than they did in love maybe love had the 00:43:35.590 --> 00:43:38.369 athletes that they had sponsored as love athletes 00:43:38.369 --> 00:43:41.289 in college already and there might be a contractual 00:43:41.289 --> 00:43:44.760 thing with them that we don't know about? It's 00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:48.000 an interesting question because you don't have 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.400 one general manager looking for a player for 00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:54.079 their team. I don't know this for sure, but I 00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.260 would imagine that there is probably a committee 00:43:56.260 --> 00:43:59.539 at Love who is looking at the teams going, okay, 00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:01.619 this athlete's a good fit here. We can market 00:44:01.619 --> 00:44:03.619 this person here. Don't kid yourself. They're 00:44:03.619 --> 00:44:06.539 still trying to build a league. So there's a 00:44:06.539 --> 00:44:09.300 volleyball aspect to it, but there's also a marketing 00:44:09.300 --> 00:44:12.750 and eyeballs. to it as well, which is why you 00:44:12.750 --> 00:44:15.510 see all of the Texas players playing in Texas. 00:44:15.630 --> 00:44:18.429 Also, one of our listeners did some research. 00:44:18.590 --> 00:44:21.710 All of Love's teams now have private ownership 00:44:21.710 --> 00:44:27.130 groups except Salt Lake, Atlanta, Madison. All 00:44:27.130 --> 00:44:29.269 the other ones are privately owned now. But I'm 00:44:29.269 --> 00:44:31.710 not sure they've taken over running the teams 00:44:31.710 --> 00:44:34.489 yet. Love is working to find those ownership 00:44:34.489 --> 00:44:37.570 groups and to turn it into like, okay, now you're 00:44:37.570 --> 00:44:41.000 running operations. But I think until... it's 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.639 been established there's a handoff period so 00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.360 they're still handling you know the volleyball 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:48.760 the contracts and those kind of things and I 00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:51.619 would imagine they won't move out of that until 00:44:51.619 --> 00:44:54.719 all teams have ownership groups because you can't 00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:56.559 I don't think you can run a league with half 00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:58.559 the teams being privately owned and half being 00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:00.860 loved so I think that's the end goal but that's 00:45:00.860 --> 00:45:03.969 not currently where it's at Long answer to say 00:45:03.969 --> 00:45:06.289 we don't have insider knowledge. We're just as 00:45:06.289 --> 00:45:08.570 perplexed as everybody else because some of the 00:45:08.570 --> 00:45:10.510 people they pick for love, like this Bailey Miller, 00:45:10.630 --> 00:45:12.329 I had to look up where she even went to college. 00:45:12.590 --> 00:45:16.150 Yes, I 100 % agree that Mimi Collier should be 00:45:16.150 --> 00:45:19.070 playing love. It's also positionally dependent, 00:45:19.269 --> 00:45:21.269 right? What foreigners do you have signed? Who 00:45:21.269 --> 00:45:23.989 needs what? Where you need to go? Which ones? 00:45:24.210 --> 00:45:27.760 Like, where does Mimi fit in the left side? There 00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.360 were two left sides that were taken for love 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:33.179 this year. Three. No, Julie Hanson, Eva Hudson, 00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:35.960 and is that Miller girl an outside too? I don't 00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:38.340 know about that one, but yeah, they had a couple. 00:45:38.500 --> 00:45:41.159 I think Mimi's better than Hanson. Agreed. No, 00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.900 we don't know, but those are a few reasons why 00:45:44.900 --> 00:45:48.159 they would have gone to MLB instead. We're also 00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:50.380 assuming that all athletes want to go to love 00:45:50.380 --> 00:45:53.320 over MLB, which probably. Also isn't the case. 00:45:53.380 --> 00:45:55.139 Yeah. You know, you want to play with certain 00:45:55.139 --> 00:45:57.840 people. You like a coach. You didn't like the 00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:01.239 contract stipulations. Yeah. That's also potentially 00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:03.119 in the cards of that. I'd rather play in another 00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:06.099 league. Question three. Sarah, I watched Love 00:46:06.099 --> 00:46:08.639 Atlanta versus Austin last night and saw how 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:11.960 the Atlanta coach, Paolo Coco, tries to will 00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:14.760 his players to a win. I loved how animated his 00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:18.960 coaching was and how vocal he gets. Huge contrast 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:24.190 to Sullivan. As a player, what is it like playing 00:46:24.190 --> 00:46:26.929 for a foreign coach, specifically a Brazilian 00:46:26.929 --> 00:46:29.889 coach? How was your experience playing for the 00:46:29.889 --> 00:46:34.030 great Bernardo Resende in Brazil? I will start 00:46:34.030 --> 00:46:37.769 this with I played in the era in North America, 00:46:37.869 --> 00:46:40.369 like college and club, where like coaches were 00:46:40.369 --> 00:46:45.650 mean. Coaches are so nice now overall. So like 00:46:45.650 --> 00:46:49.550 I've played for animated coaches most of my life. 00:46:49.980 --> 00:46:52.719 In a professional setting, however, you guys 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:56.500 are all getting paid. There's that. If you have 00:46:56.500 --> 00:46:58.860 a problem, you can leave. We won't pay you. But 00:46:58.860 --> 00:47:02.860 like I agree, there is in certain cultures, there 00:47:02.860 --> 00:47:06.519 is a lot more passion and it is acceptable. You 00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:08.239 know, in Brazil, that is one of the countries 00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:12.159 where it is acceptable. Playing for Bernardo 00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:15.199 was like, first of all, one of the greatest experiences 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:18.860 of my life, of my career. I learned so much from 00:47:18.860 --> 00:47:22.440 him. Being in the gym, he offered me new ways 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.119 of thinking about things. Just the quality of 00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:31.000 reps, the number of reps I got with him was insane. 00:47:31.219 --> 00:47:36.960 It was amazing. The passion piece, it is cultural, 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.599 but I think it is also an individual thing because 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:43.800 Bernardo wants to win so badly that he can't 00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:48.840 help himself, basically. How he acts in games, 00:47:49.369 --> 00:47:53.010 is not the person that he is in practice or in 00:47:53.010 --> 00:47:57.449 life he is just very level -headed and calm and 00:47:57.449 --> 00:48:02.010 soft -spoken and thoughtful and kind and just 00:48:02.010 --> 00:48:06.309 articulate generous you name it that is him in 00:48:06.309 --> 00:48:09.610 real life but like when the whistle blows to 00:48:09.610 --> 00:48:14.269 start a game that's exactly what he does he becomes 00:48:14.269 --> 00:48:20.099 a completely different person because he wants 00:48:20.099 --> 00:48:25.460 to win so badly to the point where it's like 00:48:25.460 --> 00:48:29.159 he legit thinks that you should win every single 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.239 point like another the other team will go up 00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:35.340 and do something amazing and he'll be so annoyed 00:48:35.340 --> 00:48:39.860 with our side of the net because well why didn't 00:48:39.860 --> 00:48:41.559 we do this and it's like well that was a great 00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:44.639 swing it's like no but like why wasn't the block 00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:48.010 here and the defender slide like So on one side, 00:48:48.090 --> 00:48:50.329 I like love the passion because I'm a very intense 00:48:50.329 --> 00:48:53.570 person, too. But sometimes it was challenging 00:48:53.570 --> 00:48:56.309 because like sometimes there's just nothing you 00:48:56.309 --> 00:48:59.690 can do about a play. And I think that I am like 00:48:59.690 --> 00:49:02.130 in the extreme of like, no, we could have been 00:49:02.130 --> 00:49:05.309 better. But he took it to like the next level. 00:49:05.969 --> 00:49:10.170 It's not for everybody. The passion and the intensity 00:49:10.170 --> 00:49:13.449 and excitement is not for everybody. If you have 00:49:13.449 --> 00:49:17.909 a filter and you listen to. The information that's 00:49:17.909 --> 00:49:20.010 being delivered instead of how it's delivered 00:49:20.010 --> 00:49:23.289 is easier to digest sometimes. But again, it's 00:49:23.289 --> 00:49:26.889 not for everyone. I personally had no problem 00:49:26.889 --> 00:49:30.010 playing for him and I liked it because I understood 00:49:30.010 --> 00:49:33.190 the opportunity that was in front of me. So let 00:49:33.190 --> 00:49:36.570 me ask you this. And I will say Bernardo has 00:49:36.570 --> 00:49:39.809 had the single biggest influence in my volleyball 00:49:39.809 --> 00:49:43.710 coaching career out of anybody. I have the utmost. 00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:47.039 respect and I think he's just he's an amazing 00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:51.280 human being but I think having watched many of 00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:54.440 your matches that come game time you guys as 00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:59.980 a team managed him like in timeouts Bafal would 00:49:59.980 --> 00:50:02.659 kind of talk to you guys afterwards like it was 00:50:02.659 --> 00:50:06.039 almost get through Bernardo's emotion and passion 00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.880 and then like you guys as a team would separate 00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.559 it seemed to me like sometimes it was a hindrance 00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:15.599 to you guys being focused on what you were trying 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:18.039 to do sometimes I was not saying all the time 00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:21.199 but it almost seemed like he couldn't pick his 00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:24.340 moments to be intense it was just always yeah 00:50:24.340 --> 00:50:26.539 but that's the thing is like you know that that's 00:50:26.539 --> 00:50:28.599 what you're getting with him totally you know 00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:31.559 what I mean so like his he balances himself out 00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:37.119 by selecting assistants who are very calm and 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.820 collected during matches. Yeah. And we all have 00:50:39.820 --> 00:50:41.659 to coach within our own personality. I'm not 00:50:41.659 --> 00:50:43.360 faulting him for that, but I'm saying if you 00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:47.139 were going to build the best coach on the planet, 00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:48.980 like prototypical, and you could pick pieces 00:50:48.980 --> 00:50:51.659 from different ones, I think that would be the 00:50:51.659 --> 00:50:53.820 area where you would go, okay, maybe we want 00:50:53.820 --> 00:50:56.239 to dial that back a little bit. Yeah. I mean, 00:50:56.260 --> 00:50:59.199 again, like the Brazilian players, they had played 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:00.980 for him forever. They knew what they were getting. 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:03.940 The foreign players that I played with. really 00:51:03.940 --> 00:51:06.059 struggled so like the first year I played with 00:51:06.059 --> 00:51:08.639 Logan Tom there the second year I played with 00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:12.380 Brankica Mihailovic and both of them just literally 00:51:12.380 --> 00:51:15.039 had to like walk away during timeouts because 00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:19.840 they could not do it yeah I think it just depends 00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.559 on like at the end of the day you love playing 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:24.800 for a coach who has that kind of passion though 00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:28.519 I do, yeah. Okay, question four. Do you guys 00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:31.900 think that this year's VNL is going to be easier 00:51:31.900 --> 00:51:35.420 because there are some competitions available 00:51:35.420 --> 00:51:38.099 where you can earn a berth to go to the Olympics, 00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:42.880 the continental tournaments? So maybe the teams 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:47.730 will bring their 100 % rosters. This person said 00:51:47.730 --> 00:51:50.269 the Italians and Brazil said that they are going 00:51:50.269 --> 00:51:53.329 to bring their best rosters. So do you think 00:51:53.329 --> 00:51:55.809 it's going to be more straightforward for the 00:51:55.809 --> 00:51:58.449 top teams to move through VNL? Because they are 00:51:58.449 --> 00:52:01.889 preparing to earn a berth through the continental 00:52:01.889 --> 00:52:05.090 tournaments. I mean, I think the top teams all 00:52:05.090 --> 00:52:08.969 did pretty well in the last VNL. I don't think 00:52:08.969 --> 00:52:12.309 there were many marquee players missing in week 00:52:12.309 --> 00:52:15.929 three and then the finals. I think you'll still 00:52:15.929 --> 00:52:19.929 see top teams resting their best players who 00:52:19.929 --> 00:52:23.130 are coming off long seasons, Champions League. 00:52:23.469 --> 00:52:26.389 We probably won't see Gabi until week three. 00:52:26.429 --> 00:52:29.429 We probably won't see some of the Italian players 00:52:29.429 --> 00:52:31.809 until weeks two or three, or they'll work them 00:52:31.809 --> 00:52:34.769 in and out. Honestly, I don't think it'll be 00:52:34.769 --> 00:52:39.469 much different. You might see them bring players 00:52:39.469 --> 00:52:43.550 one week early, but I can't see it being much 00:52:43.550 --> 00:52:47.079 different. Question five. Catherine Plummer was 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.619 originally an opposite. In my opinion, she's 00:52:49.619 --> 00:52:51.599 physically what a lot of professional opposites 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:54.920 look like and play like. I think USA needs to 00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:57.320 move her back. She subbed in for her club team 00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:59.440 the other day and rattled off three to four points 00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:02.500 in a row in all different placements and speeds. 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:05.400 What do you think about her playing opposite 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:07.699 for USA and do you think she could be successful 00:53:07.699 --> 00:53:11.920 in that role? I haven't seen her pass in quite 00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:14.889 some time. She barely plays for her club team. 00:53:14.989 --> 00:53:16.909 Right. I don't think she's playing as high above 00:53:16.909 --> 00:53:20.170 the net as the world's top opposites, personally. 00:53:21.389 --> 00:53:25.170 Fair. I know she's tall, but she's not... She's 00:53:25.170 --> 00:53:27.469 not a prolific jumper. But the question is not 00:53:27.469 --> 00:53:31.389 necessarily, is she competing with... Is she 00:53:31.389 --> 00:53:35.329 just better? She's not Iganu or Hawk or Vargas. 00:53:35.429 --> 00:53:38.610 You can go down that list. But is she a better 00:53:38.610 --> 00:53:41.920 option than USA currently has? I mean, to me, 00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:43.679 that's the question. Let me roll the tape of 00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:46.860 her playing. I need to watch it. We watched a 00:53:46.860 --> 00:53:49.019 little bit. Did she come in against Milano on 00:53:49.019 --> 00:53:51.599 the right side? Yeah. Plummer's interesting in 00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:56.199 that she's coming off an injury and, you know, 00:53:56.219 --> 00:53:58.440 something very emotional in her life. We haven't 00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:01.539 seen her play a ton. Do I think she possibly 00:54:01.539 --> 00:54:05.179 has a spot on the roster? I think she's fighting 00:54:05.179 --> 00:54:08.659 for a spot if she wants it. I don't think it's 00:54:08.659 --> 00:54:10.219 going to be on the left side just because I haven't 00:54:10.219 --> 00:54:12.880 seen her pass a ton. And I think that that's, 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:15.500 you know. She was the left side on the last Olympic 00:54:15.500 --> 00:54:18.619 roster. Yeah, but she didn't play. You can't 00:54:18.619 --> 00:54:21.039 have Plummer and Franklin on the floor at the 00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:25.079 same time. So it's going to be, as the left sides, 00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:29.099 it's going to be Franklin or Plummer. Okay, do 00:54:29.099 --> 00:54:30.800 you think Plummer is a better option than Maddie 00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:34.219 Skinner or Olivia Babcock? Or Jordan Thompson? 00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:36.960 I think it's a roll the dice at this point. Like, 00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:40.380 I don't think any of them are currently far enough 00:54:40.380 --> 00:54:43.860 ahead to go to say no. So you think it's an attractive 00:54:43.860 --> 00:54:46.280 option, potentially? I think it's definitely 00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:48.460 something they should be exploring if that's 00:54:48.460 --> 00:54:51.139 what she wants to do. Like I've said before on 00:54:51.139 --> 00:54:55.940 this podcast, the USA opposite position is there 00:54:55.940 --> 00:54:58.760 for someone to take. Like, why can't it be Plummer? 00:54:58.980 --> 00:55:02.949 Like, multiple people sent in from, like... variations 00:55:02.949 --> 00:55:06.869 of this question yeah question six i'm a little 00:55:06.869 --> 00:55:09.590 confused with the italian league both the men 00:55:09.590 --> 00:55:12.449 and the women had the italian cup but they can't 00:55:12.449 --> 00:55:16.090 they keep playing how does that work okay so 00:55:16.090 --> 00:55:19.550 the coppa italia is completely separate from 00:55:19.550 --> 00:55:22.489 the league basically in the strongest european 00:55:22.489 --> 00:55:26.489 leagues like turkey or poland or italy i think 00:55:26.489 --> 00:55:30.389 germany is and france also fit into this To qualify 00:55:30.389 --> 00:55:33.809 for Champions League, if you win the league, 00:55:34.070 --> 00:55:38.789 you get a berth. But also the winner of the Coppa 00:55:38.789 --> 00:55:42.429 Italia or the country's cup gets a berth to Champions 00:55:42.429 --> 00:55:45.690 League. So the Coppa Italia was a completely 00:55:45.690 --> 00:55:51.230 separate tournament. And the winner gets a berth 00:55:51.230 --> 00:55:54.170 to Champions League. Now, if the exact same team. 00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:57.760 wins both then they take the second place team 00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:00.900 from one of them they keep rolling through their 00:56:00.900 --> 00:56:04.639 league they keep playing the league like nothing 00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:06.480 happened pretty much and then the Coppa Italia 00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:09.260 fits in separately as its own event and they 00:56:09.260 --> 00:56:12.639 happen at the same time like league happens so 00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:15.940 you could have one league game and one cup Italian 00:56:15.940 --> 00:56:19.559 game in the same week yeah and so they're scored 00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:22.550 completely different But then, like, in Italy's 00:56:22.550 --> 00:56:24.750 case, like, they'll have something called the 00:56:24.750 --> 00:56:28.510 Super Coppa. So you'll have the team that won 00:56:28.510 --> 00:56:31.409 the league the year before play against the team 00:56:31.409 --> 00:56:33.909 that won the Coppa Italia the year before just 00:56:33.909 --> 00:56:36.789 as, like, an extra little thing. So, like, different 00:56:36.789 --> 00:56:39.769 milestones throughout the season just to, like, 00:56:39.809 --> 00:56:43.409 evaluate your team's performance and, like, bragging 00:56:43.409 --> 00:56:47.619 rights in some. Some of them offer like bonus 00:56:47.619 --> 00:56:50.360 money for coaches and players if they win them. 00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:52.940 And then there's the Champions League implications. 00:56:53.420 --> 00:56:56.079 Question seven. As a former club coach, one of 00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:58.119 the biggest pillars of success for us was helping 00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:00.719 athletes identify what's open on the court. Tips, 00:57:00.940 --> 00:57:03.599 roll shots, seams, etc. At the international 00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:06.619 and pro levels, how much of that kind of micro 00:57:06.619 --> 00:57:09.039 adjustment is coming from the bench? Are coaches 00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:12.360 giving specific direction? Like telling a gonu 00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:14.860 where to swing? Or is there more trust in elite 00:57:14.860 --> 00:57:17.900 players to read and score on their own? In my 00:57:17.900 --> 00:57:21.519 experience, when you are doing your game prep 00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:25.059 and film sessions in the days leading up to the 00:57:25.059 --> 00:57:28.860 match, you do watch the team's defensive schemes 00:57:28.860 --> 00:57:32.139 and defensive systems. And if it's the second 00:57:32.139 --> 00:57:33.940 time you've played them in a season, you pull 00:57:33.940 --> 00:57:37.699 up their defensive schemes against you and assume 00:57:37.699 --> 00:57:41.159 that they will do something similar. So you do 00:57:41.159 --> 00:57:45.900 prepare for that in practice. In matches, you 00:57:45.900 --> 00:57:48.440 often get that kind of feedback from your teammates 00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:51.840 who are able to see the other side of the court 00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:55.699 and they will potentially tell you during the 00:57:55.699 --> 00:57:58.199 match or after a swing, like what you have open. 00:57:58.739 --> 00:58:01.380 And it might be discussed in timeouts, but there 00:58:01.380 --> 00:58:05.380 are, I mean, generally speaking, the players 00:58:05.380 --> 00:58:10.360 see, well, they've done their preparation. That 00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:15.440 it's not a constant thing. Yeah. The game happens 00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:17.380 so fast and there's adjustments that the hitters 00:58:17.380 --> 00:58:20.480 are tasked with scoring. That's your job. As 00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:24.780 a coaching staff, you might have, I know we pick 00:58:24.780 --> 00:58:26.380 on this player, but I'm going to go back to it. 00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:29.980 If you're in trouble, tip to Stasiak. Like that 00:58:29.980 --> 00:58:33.400 might be the team game plan, right? So you're 00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:35.460 taking the opposite out. She doesn't move very 00:58:35.460 --> 00:58:37.840 well. So it's like, okay, if you can't see anything 00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:40.159 and you're in trouble, this is the shot we want 00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:43.800 to do. And then as coaches, we might say, hey, 00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.780 in general, they're lining up in your angle, 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:49.739 look for the line swing, or they're playing you 00:58:49.739 --> 00:58:52.880 defensively this way. Here are a couple options, 00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:55.119 but very rarely are you telling hitters specifically 00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:57.659 what to do. You're trying to provide them with 00:58:57.659 --> 00:59:00.320 information so that they can make better decisions 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.940 in real time. Okay, our last question of the 00:59:02.940 --> 00:59:05.440 day. When watching Love, Austin, I've noticed 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.400 that during timeouts, it sometimes appears that 00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:11.800 Eric Sullivan doesn't say much. Really? I'm curious 00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:13.920 about your take on that. Is that a strategic 00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:16.460 choice? Are assistants leading those conversations? 00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:18.800 Or is it more about empowering players to take 00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:21.320 ownership in those moments rather than heavy 00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:26.199 sideline instruction? Did you watch V &L or World 00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:30.440 Championships? I think it is an Eric Sullivan. 00:59:33.319 --> 00:59:36.840 Yeah, I mean, there's a couple ways you can look 00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:39.940 at this. One is you often have an offensive and 00:59:39.940 --> 00:59:43.119 a defensive coach, and he may be saying, okay, 00:59:43.179 --> 00:59:44.639 you're always going to get this information from 00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:46.400 them. This is their expertise. We want to keep 00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:49.800 it the same. So that's one possibility. You know, 00:59:49.820 --> 00:59:52.400 another possibility is he just doesn't like those 00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.500 situations, and he's going to go, players can 00:59:55.500 --> 00:59:57.199 do this. You know, maybe he'll bring something 00:59:57.199 --> 00:59:59.920 in at the end. Sometimes what I see, and again, 00:59:59.960 --> 01:00:02.300 I'm not saying this is Sullivan, but if you haven't 01:00:02.300 --> 01:00:05.559 trained yourself as a coach to watch and know 01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:08.760 what adjustments to look for or are really into 01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:10.639 the stats and able to see micro adjustments, 01:00:10.940 --> 01:00:14.820 you may not know what to say without going to 01:00:14.820 --> 01:00:17.000 the stats person or another coach. And instead 01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:19.559 of saying, you never want to give bad information. 01:00:19.579 --> 01:00:22.119 It's better to say nothing than to say the quote 01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:24.800 unquote wrong thing. So there could be any number 01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:26.860 of reasons why that is happening. And unless 01:00:26.860 --> 01:00:29.789 you're... in those huddles it's really hard to 01:00:29.789 --> 01:00:32.210 know but those are kind of three that i would 01:00:32.210 --> 01:00:34.889 say are possibilities thanks again to everybody 01:00:34.889 --> 01:00:36.909 who's submitting questions we love reading them 01:00:36.909 --> 01:00:39.670 my favorite part of the day is the youtube comments 01:00:39.670 --> 01:00:41.449 going through them seeing what people are saying 01:00:41.449 --> 01:00:44.090 so again we appreciate you guys listening and 01:00:44.090 --> 01:00:45.730 sending in the questions and we hope they keep 01:00:45.730 --> 01:00:48.269 on coming all right looking forward to this week 01:00:48.269 --> 01:00:51.969 thursday at 8 p .m eastern we have mlv indie 01:00:51.969 --> 01:00:54.409 versus dallas that's on victory plus that'll 01:00:54.409 --> 01:00:57.320 be a really good game Friday at 10 p .m. Eastern, 01:00:57.539 --> 01:01:02.400 NCAA men's UCLA versus Long Beach State. The 01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:06.139 rematch. Let's go. This time at Pauley Pavilion. 01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:08.860 So we'll see what happens there. I'll be watching 01:01:08.860 --> 01:01:11.820 that one for sure. Saturday, 8 p .m. Eastern, 01:01:12.019 --> 01:01:14.840 Love Houston versus Salt Lake, also on Victory 01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:17.980 Plus. Two teams who are currently real hot in 01:01:17.980 --> 01:01:22.179 love. And then Saturday at 2 .30 p .m. Eastern, 01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:26.440 we have two games. Scandici versus Milano and 01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:29.980 Perugia versus Verona. Great matches. That's 01:01:29.980 --> 01:01:31.860 a 2 -3 on the women's side and a 1 -2 on the 01:01:31.860 --> 01:01:36.320 men's side. FYI. You got two TVs, TV and a computer. 01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:40.119 Put them on. Those are both going to be unbelievable 01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:43.340 matches. 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