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Hi, volleyball fans, and welcome back to Volley

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Talk, the podcast created for volleyball lovers

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who want to dig deep into what is going on in

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NCAA and international volleyball. I'm your host,

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Sarah Pavan. I'm an Olympian, beach volleyball

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world champion, former Nebraska Cornhusker, and

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longtime pro, both indoor and on the beach. And

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I'm Adam Schultz, former indoor player, international

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volleyball coach, and the show's resident stat

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guy. I'm Paul Pavan, former player, former high

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school coach and university coach, current club

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president and club coach, and first -time grandpa

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this week. That's also Sarah's dad. Spoiler alert.

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Spoiler alert. Our daughter was born just over

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a week ago. So, yeah, we kind of talked about

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it last week that this could potentially, or

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last episode that this could potentially happen.

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We've had a lot of volleyball on. Correct. But

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let me tell you, I have not been able to focus

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on it. So we had to bring in reinforcements in

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my dad. We're hoping for some Paul Pavan hot

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takes this episode. So we'll see what happens.

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Yeah. So you can count on them from me. You could

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probably also count on them from him. I think

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they're genetic. I'm going to be moderating the

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discussion for the most part, but you know, I

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can't help myself. So I'm probably going to have

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to jump in and say something. Because you guys

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know that that's what I do. So that is the state

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of affairs this week. But it was a big week for

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both international and NCAA volleyball fans because

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Women's World Championships have been happening

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and it was the start of the NCAA preseason. So

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as we know, pool play and early playoffs at Worlds

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are usually pretty straightforward. But we are

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heading into crunch time and like... the playoffs

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for real for real this week and then on the NCAA

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side there has been some exciting volleyball

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being played already great very good matchups

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so we have no shortage of things to talk about

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this week so let's get started We don't have

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many weekly highlights this week. I mean, obviously,

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our daughter being born is the highlight, you

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know, for our lives. But in a volleyball sense,

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men's U21 Worlds wrapped up this week. Iran won

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with Italy taking silver, USA took bronze. So

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semifinals were pretty decisive. Iran beat the

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U .S. three straight. Italy beat the Czech Republic

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three straight. In the bronze medal match, USA

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beat Czech Republic three straight. We are just

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sweeping the board here. Efficient. Yeah. And

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then in the gold medal match, Iran beat Italy

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in four. To be honest, I didn't know what to

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expect here. I don't know if I would have had

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Iran on my radar. I mean, they have a pro league.

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Their men's team has been doing better. Like,

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I'm not surprised that there's a groundswell.

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I can't say I was expecting it, but then when

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you say the results, I'm like, okay. That can

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track. I could get that. So, good for them. And

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Italy continues their dominance across the board

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in youth and senior play this summer. Always

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in the medals. Always. In every single category.

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Yeah. U19, U21, men's, women's. It's been a good

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summer for the Italian Volleyball Federation.

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So, congrats to Iran. on taking home gold there

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but that was all i had for the highlights so

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let's get into the the good stuff here women's

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world championships have been going on in thailand

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so we're filming this uh on sunday night so there's

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still a couple round of 16s to happen things

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have been i would say proceeding more or less

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as expected i think we saw the general round

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of 16 matchups that we were expecting i would

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say for pool a i wasn't necessarily expecting

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thailand to come out i thought maybe sweden would

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come out of that really i thought thailand would

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come out i just didn't know who would come second

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but netherlands like they look pretty good the

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netherlands i thought had a really good tournament

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i thought sweden uh just given The fact that

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they had Hawk might be able to. Watching Sweden

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play, they cannot get her the ball. Well, yeah.

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And again, in fairness, I hadn't seen Sweden

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play. So I thought that there was the potential

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for that, but they just technically weren't able

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to do what they needed to do. Of course, Italy,

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Belgium came out. Brazil, France came out. U

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.S., Slovenia. That pool messed me up. Was the

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question mark. Yeah. So U .S., Pool D, U .S.,

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Slovenia, Argentina, Czech Republic. I figured

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USA would come out on top. Agreed. I honestly

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thought Czech would come out, but they finished

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last. They had such a good V &L that I thought

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they were going to carry over their play into

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Worlds, but that just didn't happen. And Slovenia

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actually had a really good tournament. I thought

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they played really good matches. Pool E, Turkey

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E, Turkey A, Canada. I'm honestly shocked that

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Bulgaria came last. I thought maybe they could

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beat Canada. Given the fact, I'm not even going

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to put a qualifier on it. They played well. Their

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outsides were actually hitting balls instead

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of bailing out and tipping, which we saw during

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VNL. They were being much more aggressive. Guidetti

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is having an impact on the mentality of those

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players, and you could see that in Worlds. So

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I think that they have to be happy with how Pool

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Play went. I think Canada, without Van Rijk or

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Alexa Gray playing, was a plus for them in that

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these young players are getting a lot of confidence

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right now, and they're really starting to believe

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in themselves, which is really what we haven't

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seen from these other players in a long, long

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time. They needed to step up, because in V &L,

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you can tell that they have been taking a backseat

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to Gray and Van Rijk, so finally being able to

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develop and have to find solutions on their own,

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I think. We're starting to see it come together.

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And again, I thought Gusen and Thakboom continued

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to improve, so that was really good to see. In

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the remaining pools, China Dominican came out

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as we expected, Poland and Germany, and then

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Japan and Serbia rounded things out. So we have

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had a few elimination matches in the round of

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16. Let's start with Netherlands -Serbia. Adam.

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had if you go back to last episode adam had serbia

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japan having a rematch in the quarters but netherlands

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beat serbia in five and they earned that victory

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i thought they played really well they were fearless

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they were playing to score points they did not

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look inexperienced or let the moment take over

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for them that was a good match but boscovich

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didn't play which what Boscovich doesn't play

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and you lose by two points and two points in

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your first two sets, two of the matches, you

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know that she's going to make a difference. Yeah,

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but you can only beat who's in front of you.

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Granted. Let's roll it back to VNL when Boscovic

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wasn't playing and they were baggled. Like literally

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did not win a match when Boscovic wasn't playing.

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I mean, I think in fairness, the expectation

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should have been for Serbia to beat Netherlands

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without Boscovic. Did they play each other? They

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were in the same location in week one of VNL.

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Did they play each other? I can't even remember.

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I don't remember either. They were both in Canada.

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But my question is like, was she injured? Like

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that's my only explanation for why she wouldn't

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be on the court. Like you've got... To be injured.

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That's the only explanation. She was there supporting

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her team. She was on the bench with everybody.

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She just didn't play. I thought Uzalak played

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well. Who they also were missing in the first

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couple of weeks of VNL. That was bad. Yeah, I

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mean that's... Serbia. It's been a rough... You

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say Italy's had a summer for the ages. Serbia

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has had one to forget. Hasn't been great. For

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men and women. Across the board. For men and

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women. Take your pick. Right off the hop. Adam's

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quarterfinal predictions are ruined. Yeah, but

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my semis could still be right because I had Japan

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going through. Ruined. We'll see. We'll see.

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In another round of 16 match, Japan beat Thailand

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three straight. Not a surprise. We saw that coming.

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We have seen Italy take down Germany three straight.

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They continue to cruise. I don't think that's

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unexpected. Germany played some good matches

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in their pool play, but Italy's just too good.

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Belgium pushed Poland to five. Shout out to Belgium.

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I watched quite a bit of that game. They played

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really, really well. I was very impressed. And

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I think that Poland squeaked one out. A little

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more experience, a little better in the middle.

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Okay, why was it so close? This is one of the

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matches that I was taking care of the baby. Belgium

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played really well. It's just that at the end,

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in game five, I counted three out -of -system

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sets that were set into the block. That made

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a huge difference. Those things go the other

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way, and we might have Belgium coming out of

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that thing. You guys know how I feel about out

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-of -system setting. And running the middle.

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And running the middle, two things I am very

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passionate about. But, I mean, I think Belgium

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has to be proud of that effort, right? You're

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in there. You're going to five. I mean, Poland

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meddled in the VNL. All of their players are

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experienced. That's a stepping stone game for

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Belgium, I think, in terms of getting experience

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and building towards next year. They had to be

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happy with how they played. They are today. At

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the time, you could see them at the end of the

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match. They were devastated by losing, and I

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think they knew they threw away some points they

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should have had, and that hurts. But today, they're

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probably thinking, you know, we did okay. Nobody

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expected this from us. Last two. We do have two,

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at the time of this recording, we do have two

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round of 16 matches that still have to be played,

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which is USA versus Canada, Turkey versus Slovenia.

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But Adam's prediction for round of 16, wrong

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again with this match in France beating China

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in four. I would have been wrong with that too.

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No, I did not see that coming. I remember in

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the last episode I said France -China could be

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a pretty good match. But I think China's going

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to win. France has been playing well lately.

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They've been doing a pretty good job. Surprise

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for sure. China, they're young and inexperienced.

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I didn't watch this match, so I would be curious

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to see what actually happened. But they're more

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physical than France. Kazot has been playing

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very well all summer. Like, there's a reason

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Kazot is going to Vaca Bank. I mean, yes, but

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if you match a position to position, I think

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China generally comes out. Even, like, you guys

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know how I feel about the Chinese left sides.

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I love them. I think they're so good. But, like,

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lining up with Kazot. Yeah. Do I think it's a

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wash? I don't know. I don't know if I would go

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that far. But they're not. France has surprised

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me this year. And you got to play the games.

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And, yeah. And Indaye had a huge match. Yeah.

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Statistically. I mean, good for France. You think

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they beat Brazil? No. Well, did they? They pushed

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Brazil in the NL. They did. I don't think they'll

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beat Brazil. I wouldn't bet the house on that

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or the farm, but I don't think they'll beat Brazil.

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I'll be shocked if that happens. So I think my

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semis are still going to ring true. So you still

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think USA over Canada, Turkey over Slovenia?

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Correct. I agree. If that does hold true, our

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quarterfinals are Netherlands versus Japan. I

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take Japan. I take Japan. We would have, hypothetically,

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USA versus Turkey. I'm taking Turkey. I'm going

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to go USA. What? Why? I'm just kidding. I've

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watched them play some since the VNL, and they

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are playing better than they were. They're physical

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enough that they can cause problems. Their block

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is big enough to cause problems. And I think

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they serve very aggressively also. I'm starting

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to like what I'm seeing right now. I'm not saying

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they're going to beat Italy. I'm not saying they

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could beat Brazil. In fairness to them, they

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don't have to play either of those till the final.

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You just endeared yourself to all of our listeners.

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Just an FYI. Well, you know. All of the Americans

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out here who've been so frustrated with us, they're

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like, thank you so much. Well, I just liked what

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I've been seeing lately. And I think, you know,

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if their passing can hold up, and that's the

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big thing. If their passing can hold up, they

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will give everybody a problem. Anybody who passes

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well can give someone a problem. Except Italy.

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Nobody can touch Italy. You know how we feel

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about them. Let's put a pin in USA because there

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are some things that we can touch on here in

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just a minute. But to finish out the potential

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quarterfinals, which these ones are set, we've

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got Italy versus Poland. Italy. You guys know

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I have so much faith in Italy. I don't know.

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They're just so consistent. They're so good.

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And then Brazil, France. I'm going to say Brazil

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in five in this one. France is on a high. They've

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got nothing to lose. Brazil, Ana Cristina is

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still injured. Honestly, don't sleep on France,

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though. Brazil in five. I think it's going to

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be a good game. You know what? We're all sitting

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here, and we'd love to pick France, but none

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of us have the guts to do it. That's basically

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what it comes to. We just know that they can

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be pushed, but we don't want to say that, so

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we're not going to. No, I just have so much faith.

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The players that I've played with and against,

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I guess I just have so much faith in them. I

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don't know. I'm just like, I can't turn my back

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on them. I think Brazil's block is going to give

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France some trouble. They're blocking very well

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right now. Fair, fair, fair. Okay, so for semifinal

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one, we're still holding strong to Italy versus

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Brazil. Semifinal two, we are torn. We think

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Japan will be in it for sure, but we're torn

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on if it'll be Turkey or USA. And we have had

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a lot of back and forth with American fans and

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viewers over the last couple weeks. So just wanted

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to touch on a couple things. I've gotten a lot

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of comments about Morgan Hentz. She's earned

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the spot. She snatched that spot from Lexi Rodriguez

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real quick. She's passing better. I think defensively,

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she's been better than Lexi is. I think that's

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where the edge is for her. I still don't love

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her setting, but she's giving them chances defensively,

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which I think they need. Do you think, because

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Lexi started in the first match and then they

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completely, they changed it. Do you think Lexi

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was doing anything particularly poorly? Do you

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think Morgan is playing that much better? Do

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you think her setting is improved? I was watching

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this and I was wondering myself because I think

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Lexi Rodriguez is a better libero, quite frankly.

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Best of what? Well, I see Hintz flopping around

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a lot. She's a flopper. Rodriguez is a reader,

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reads and moves. The other one is a reactionary

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type of libero or just flop. And I'll try to

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get it up. It's working, but I'm still thinking.

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Rodriguez is the better of the two. Well, you

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see that in beach too. You see in beach volleyball,

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people love the like flashy digs or the people

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like dive across the court. And then you have

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the people who just like read the game and make

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it look easy. But people love the ones who like

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dive and make it look crazy. But like, if you

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really think about it, it's because they don't

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read the game as well. I understand what you're

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saying. I think that Lexi will eventually win

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the job. But if you watch her playing defense.

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Her reads are off because she hasn't calibrated

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to what these international players, the angles

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they can hit yet. Well, my thing is she's played

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this all summer. You've been doing this since

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May. We're almost in September. Has she been

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playing it all summer? Or has she been practicing

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all summer? Well, that's the thing. It's like

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you're at the... She played V &L. Yeah, she played

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V &L weeks two, three, the final. It takes time

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to get used to that level and the angles and

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everything else that these players are capable

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of doing. And until you have a steady diet of

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that, it's going to be difficult to just jump

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in. I think she's the better of the two. I think

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Hentz is doing a great job in keeping the ball

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up. It's just two different styles of libero,

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and I prefer the Rodriguez style. I think Hentz

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gives them the best chance to win today. in Worlds,

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I think Lexi will be the libero of their future

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if she can sort out her reads. Has her setting

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gotten better? Because that was my biggest knock

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on Morgan Hentz. Not really. I still think she

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misses too many. Like for me, if you're a libero

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in your setting, it needs to be hittable 95 plus

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percent of the time. And I don't think she puts

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her hitters in great positions. Well, I would

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say the same thing about the entire American

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team because the sets that I was able to watch

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this week. As a whole, their out -of -system

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setting was atrocious. The number of free balls

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they had to put over. Internationally, if you

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are digging the ball within the perimeter of

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the court, you need to be able to get a swing

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off of it. And the number of free balls I have

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seen from the American team on digs within the

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perimeter is insane. I don't disagree with you.

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Now let me ask you a question, because I thought

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I heard you say... two or three weeks ago, I

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can't remember right now, that you believed Wong

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Arantes was the best libero in the U .S.? Yeah.

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Correct me, I don't know for sure. Did she retire,

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or is she just not even being given a chance

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anymore? No, I think it was her choice to take

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the summer off. We are wondering if she's coming

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back. Okay. Yeah. The other thing with Lexi,

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too, is we should point out that she missed the

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whole pro season being on the bench behind Wong

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Arantes. True. She lost a season of... competing

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her first season out of college like that hurts

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developmentally we have uh chiaka who came back

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i think huge difference maker the offense coming

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out of the middle for the u .s is much improved

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this tournament i think yes it's getting there

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i still think they need to run in front of the

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setter more yeah They keep sending Redke on the

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slide too. And while it is looking better than

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it did in VNL, I still don't love her on the

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slide. But I've seen Redke because I watched

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her a lot in college. And I've seen her swing

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in front of the center probably more this world

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championship than I ever have. And any other

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stretch. That's where they need to have her hitting

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from, in my opinion. In front of the setter.

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Absolutely. And the thing is, she dominated in

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college running behind the setter, but it is,

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as we have said countless times, it is a completely

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different game. Completely different caliber

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of athlete. Her slide isn't fast enough internationally

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to be able to score. No, I agree. Now, the other

00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:08.420
thing with the U .S. is that they run the pipe

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over top of the middle so much they don't necessarily

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always have to set it, but it still has to be

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a threat. And I think they need to get better

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at that. Those are the couple pieces, couple

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tweaks to the U .S. system that we just wanted

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to touch on that we have gotten a lot of questions

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and comments about. But we will see how these

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last two round of 16 matches shake out. And yeah,

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it's go time. Quarterfinals start on September

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3rd. So you know we'll be tuning in. Hopefully

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I'll be tuning in. We know you guys will be tuning

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in. Yeah, we're excited to see how this all plays

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out. All right, while Worlds was kind of ramping

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up, you know, it's kind of a slow burn in World

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Championships as we get through pool play and

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then things get exciting. That was not the case

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with NCAA Volleyball, okay? We started out with

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a bang with the ABCA First Serve Tournament that

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we talked about last episode. And since then,

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there have been some... Massive. Very good matches.

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There are obviously way too many great matches

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to talk about here. Why don't I ask you guys,

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what has been your favorite match or two that

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you have watched in the last couple weeks? For

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me, today, Nebraska -Kentucky. Oh, baby. I was

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looking forward to the match, and to be honest

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with you, I... I expected Nebraska in three,

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maybe four. And then they lost the first two.

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So I'm watching this thing thinking Goliath is

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going down. And because Kentucky was playing

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really, really well. But Nebraska is so deep.

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One thing doesn't work. Another thing doesn't

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work. They'll figure it out because they have

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so many options that they can go to. At the end

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of the game, I think they just wore Kentucky

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down. Kentucky. Last week when we were going

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through the AVCA preseason rankings, Kentucky

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was one of the teams that I was like, I feel

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like they are going to be better than their ranking.

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And watching them play Nebraska, I stand by that.

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I think that they are very good. That was an

00:21:20.150 --> 00:21:22.190
interesting match to watch. Losing the first

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two sets. and coming back and winning in five

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is probably the best thing for Nebraska. I was

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afraid watching them play early that they were

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in such good form that they were going to roll

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through everybody and end up not really being

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pushed because they just looked cleaner than

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everybody else up until today. Showing that grit

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and coming together as a team and finding some

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leadership, being put in that position early

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in the season, I think... puts them in a good

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place to have a really good run and to stay focused.

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Winning in that way was probably the best thing

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for them. But I think if you watched it today,

00:22:00.180 --> 00:22:02.579
one thing stood out for me, and I don't know

00:22:02.579 --> 00:22:05.720
if anybody would agree with me, but it was all

00:22:05.720 --> 00:22:09.299
like deja vu to me today. In what sense? I'm

00:22:09.299 --> 00:22:13.440
watching Nebraska play, and it reminds me of

00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:16.539
Merritt Beeson when she started slumping at the

00:22:16.539 --> 00:22:18.259
end of the season where they were getting no

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production. from the right side. I believe that

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the right side hitters on Nebraska today had

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five kills, and that's just not going to cut

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it. So the pressure now is on everybody else

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to score, and the biggest difference today that

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I found, and I got away with it, was, and I was

00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:44.619
really impressed by Harper Murray. She... showed

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me some stuff later on in the matches as it went

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on because I was very critical of her inability

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to hit high hands and get blocked, I mean roofed

00:22:54.420 --> 00:22:59.460
badly. And then she started doing what international

00:22:59.460 --> 00:23:02.980
players do. She started hitting high hands. And

00:23:02.980 --> 00:23:06.220
that got up to 23 kills. And she's, actually

00:23:06.220 --> 00:23:07.759
we were talking about this, she's probably out

00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:10.569
of the backcourt a better hitter. But she started

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doing it in the front court too. So kudos to

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her. But I still think they need consistent points

00:23:16.829 --> 00:23:19.890
from the other left side. Landfare has never

00:23:19.890 --> 00:23:22.369
been it for me. I think you guys know that. I've

00:23:22.369 --> 00:23:26.619
never hidden that. but I did expect more from

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the right side. I am impressed with Rebecca Alex's

00:23:29.980 --> 00:23:33.240
improved offense. Absolutely. She's always been

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a good blocker, but they are ramping up her offensive

00:23:36.140 --> 00:23:39.380
game, which I think is amazing. A big difference

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I'm noticing in the Danny Busboom era versus

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the John Cook era is how many... substitution

00:23:48.110 --> 00:23:50.970
she's willing to make and how many changes she

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is willing to make in game coach cook would stick

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with his lineup and that was that you are not

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coming off the court we are not changing we're

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not changing the lineup and danny is like no

00:24:02.710 --> 00:24:04.970
we're gonna make wholesale changes here if we

00:24:04.970 --> 00:24:07.609
have to and we're gonna just find what sticks

00:24:07.609 --> 00:24:10.710
so i think that that's a marked difference well

00:24:10.710 --> 00:24:12.829
the key the key for me was the libero switch

00:24:12.829 --> 00:24:17.619
after the second set big move cho boy to pass

00:24:17.619 --> 00:24:20.000
the ball in the first two sets, and they couldn't

00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:22.019
get their middles going. I say that relatively.

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Their middles are always a threat. I think they're

00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:27.180
very good. But as much as they need to or want

00:24:27.180 --> 00:24:29.059
them to be a threat all the time, Choboy was

00:24:29.059 --> 00:24:32.000
being picked on going after seams. They weren't

00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:35.039
passing well. And that's, quite frankly, going

00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:37.339
to be the way you beat Nebraska. I think Nebraska's

00:24:37.339 --> 00:24:39.660
middles, 1 -2, are probably the best in the country

00:24:39.660 --> 00:24:43.039
and probably by a large margin. If they can...

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get the ball to those middles, and then have

00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.140
the pipe on top of that, it's going to be hard

00:24:48.140 --> 00:24:50.859
to stop. You've got to get Nebraska hitting high

00:24:50.859 --> 00:24:52.500
balls. That's going to be the only way to beat

00:24:52.500 --> 00:24:55.019
them, in my opinion. I still think you're going

00:24:55.019 --> 00:24:58.000
to have to find points from the right side. Traditionally

00:24:58.000 --> 00:24:59.940
in this game now, the right side is your point

00:24:59.940 --> 00:25:02.519
score. That's your point score. So what do you

00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:08.339
do if you're Danny? Do you give this Italian

00:25:08.339 --> 00:25:11.519
kid a runway to figure it out? Are you playing?

00:25:12.140 --> 00:25:15.900
The transfer, are you, what's your strategy here?

00:25:16.380 --> 00:25:22.880
I think that the youngster from Italy, a much

00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:25.000
better blocker of the two. She's a very good

00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:29.180
blocker. And gets up in the air higher. And I

00:25:29.180 --> 00:25:31.759
think the girl from Baylor, I can't remember

00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:35.400
her name. Ali Cech. If she's not scoring points,

00:25:35.700 --> 00:25:39.000
then Danny did what she had to do, took her out,

00:25:39.099 --> 00:25:42.609
put the Italian girl in. And she did a pretty

00:25:42.609 --> 00:25:45.349
good job. She didn't score a lot of points. I

00:25:45.349 --> 00:25:48.910
think that she has been interviewed saying that

00:25:48.910 --> 00:25:51.450
the speed of the sets is much faster than she's

00:25:51.450 --> 00:25:55.470
used to. I can understand the difficulty coming

00:25:55.470 --> 00:25:58.190
from the international style play as a younger

00:25:58.190 --> 00:26:04.150
athlete. With her size, I can relate to the sense

00:26:04.150 --> 00:26:07.430
of it's very hard to find a setter who can set.

00:26:07.900 --> 00:26:10.819
with tempo and get the ball high enough at the

00:26:10.819 --> 00:26:12.980
same time I always struggled with that with a

00:26:12.980 --> 00:26:15.440
lot of setters so I'm wondering if it's a case

00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.079
of that because she does look to not be fully

00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.079
extending on her attacks I would stick with Adriano

00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:26.079
because you have longer with her and a higher

00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.480
ceiling I think and a higher ceiling I think

00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:30.759
you need to stick it out with her find a way

00:26:31.579 --> 00:26:33.960
to make it work because I think her upside is

00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:35.960
a lot bigger and you can use her for longer.

00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:38.539
Well, and you can win without her scoring points

00:26:38.539 --> 00:26:40.700
right now. You just beat Kentucky with your right

00:26:40.700 --> 00:26:42.880
side not really producing anything. You can give

00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:46.019
her time to figure it out so that she's really

00:26:46.019 --> 00:26:49.900
good come national championship time. Now, on

00:26:49.900 --> 00:26:52.539
the Kentucky side, I have to admit, I think Craig

00:26:52.539 --> 00:26:54.500
did a really good job right now for this point

00:26:54.500 --> 00:26:57.099
in the year. Craig Skinner, that's the coach

00:26:57.099 --> 00:27:01.299
of Kentucky. And the only thing I think he probably

00:27:01.299 --> 00:27:03.660
realizes because he's a good coach and a smart

00:27:03.660 --> 00:27:07.819
man. Those two left sides today in a five -game

00:27:07.819 --> 00:27:12.299
match took 135 swings. That's just not going

00:27:12.299 --> 00:27:15.660
to be enough. And it's not sustainable for the

00:27:15.660 --> 00:27:19.059
attackers' bodies for game planning. Brooklyn

00:27:19.059 --> 00:27:22.119
DeLay and Eva Hudson are great left sides, I

00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.640
think, as a combo, outstanding. But you need

00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:27.920
to get some production from your other hitters,

00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:30.480
or at least use your other hitters. They've got

00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.180
to have a middle presence. And I know I say this

00:27:33.180 --> 00:27:36.680
about everybody, but it's got to happen. Okay,

00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:40.759
so I've got to ask you right now, which outsides

00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:43.940
are you taking? Kentucky's outsides or Nebraska's

00:27:43.940 --> 00:27:46.720
outsides? I'm taking Kentucky's outsides. I was

00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:50.200
going to say Kentucky too. Oh, my gosh. I agree.

00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:53.700
As a one -two punch. I just think as a combo,

00:27:53.819 --> 00:27:56.460
Kentucky's outsides are better than the Nebraska

00:27:56.460 --> 00:27:59.039
combo. I think it's hard to argue. They're the

00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.680
best one -two punch in the country. Do you agree?

00:28:01.859 --> 00:28:06.220
I do. I do. Okay. Just like the Nebraska middles

00:28:06.220 --> 00:28:08.380
are the best one -two punch in the country. And

00:28:08.380 --> 00:28:10.500
Nebraska's running those middles. So it makes

00:28:10.500 --> 00:28:13.920
up for potential weaknesses on the outside, you

00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.339
know? The biggest difference to me, because Harper

00:28:16.339 --> 00:28:18.039
-Murray's skilled. She can pass the ball. She

00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:20.819
plays defense. It's the out -of -system hitting

00:28:20.819 --> 00:28:24.250
for me that puts the Kentucky outsides. above

00:28:24.250 --> 00:28:25.950
the other two. You give Harper Murray the ball

00:28:25.950 --> 00:28:27.910
in system where the middle's a threat, she's

00:28:27.910 --> 00:28:30.690
going to score. She's a good volleyball player.

00:28:31.150 --> 00:28:33.109
You put a triple block on her and everybody knows

00:28:33.109 --> 00:28:35.170
where the ball's going, that's when the numbers

00:28:35.170 --> 00:28:37.490
drop a little bit. So I think that's where, in

00:28:37.490 --> 00:28:39.269
my opinion, the Kentucky left sides have the

00:28:39.269 --> 00:28:41.650
edge. If Murray can continue to do what she did

00:28:41.650 --> 00:28:45.849
today toward the second half of that match, I'm

00:28:45.849 --> 00:28:49.190
going to tell you now, player of the year. You

00:28:49.190 --> 00:28:53.410
think? I think. If she can continue what happened

00:28:53.410 --> 00:28:56.869
today, player of the year. Heard it here first.

00:28:57.190 --> 00:29:00.809
Landfare, in my mind, is a question mark. I think

00:29:00.809 --> 00:29:04.849
Sigler or Pierce need to take her spot. I don't

00:29:04.849 --> 00:29:06.710
know what she's doing starting. I'm not sure

00:29:06.710 --> 00:29:09.630
she finishes as a starter. It's going to be a

00:29:09.630 --> 00:29:12.430
crowsy situation from last season. We have our

00:29:12.430 --> 00:29:15.009
favorite match from the week. If you didn't watch

00:29:15.009 --> 00:29:18.299
the Nebraska -Kentucky match, check it out. But

00:29:18.299 --> 00:29:20.920
my next question is, what was the biggest surprise

00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:24.859
of the week for you? I was surprised at how well

00:29:24.859 --> 00:29:28.160
Florida did. That was my surprise of the week.

00:29:28.220 --> 00:29:32.039
I thought they played good teams really well.

00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:36.640
I like their setter. I thought Stucky did a really

00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:38.259
good job. She was playing really well before

00:29:38.259 --> 00:29:41.599
she got hurt. Stucky's good, man. I like Florida.

00:29:41.819 --> 00:29:43.960
I think they're going to be my dark horse team

00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:48.069
this year. They were a pleasant surprise. I'm

00:29:48.069 --> 00:29:49.670
not disagreeing that they were a big surprise,

00:29:49.910 --> 00:29:53.470
but a bigger surprise to me today was Arizona

00:29:53.470 --> 00:29:57.170
State University taking down Penn State in four.

00:29:57.549 --> 00:30:02.009
They had a right side number 10 Glover who put

00:30:02.009 --> 00:30:06.289
up a massive block. She had nine blocks today.

00:30:06.529 --> 00:30:09.569
I'm watching this young girl play and she can

00:30:09.569 --> 00:30:12.410
hit the ball too. I was really impressed. I think

00:30:12.410 --> 00:30:14.750
their coach did a great job with the team. Can

00:30:14.750 --> 00:30:17.500
they sustain? I don't know. but they certainly

00:30:17.500 --> 00:30:19.980
did it today. They got a real superstar in that

00:30:19.980 --> 00:30:21.779
young girl. I think she's going to be good as

00:30:21.779 --> 00:30:23.380
well. We were watching that match together. She's

00:30:23.380 --> 00:30:26.859
got a lot of pieces there. What do the following

00:30:26.859 --> 00:30:30.640
teams need to do to win a national title? Let's

00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.240
start with Penn State. Penn State needs to run

00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.420
a balanced offense. They got a shiny new toy

00:30:36.420 --> 00:30:40.740
in Kennedy Martin. Stark set her every ball.

00:30:40.980 --> 00:30:43.319
I didn't think Kennedy Martin played particularly

00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:47.630
well against Creighton. She didn't really do

00:30:47.630 --> 00:30:50.630
much for me. I agree with you, but today I could

00:30:50.630 --> 00:30:54.390
see a Kennedy Martin that people have been talking

00:30:54.390 --> 00:30:56.849
about as she's getting comfortable with maybe

00:30:56.849 --> 00:31:00.849
the best setter in the country. Maybe. She is.

00:31:00.970 --> 00:31:03.150
She's definitely the best setter. I have nothing

00:31:03.150 --> 00:31:05.589
against Kennedy Martin. I think she's very good,

00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:08.470
but if you are only going to set her to a national

00:31:08.470 --> 00:31:11.289
championship, it's not going to work. You have

00:31:11.289 --> 00:31:15.609
to find a way to get other players to score points.

00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:18.559
Selman is going to need to find a way. Selman

00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.400
has improved. I was impressed. She's gotten better.

00:31:21.779 --> 00:31:24.539
But Jura Vicious, I'm not sure that she's a left

00:31:24.539 --> 00:31:26.700
side there. You've got Mendelsohn in the middle,

00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.140
but they didn't run her a ton. Like, I get it.

00:31:29.140 --> 00:31:31.160
You're trying to find your rhythm between Stark

00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:33.420
and Martin. They're going to need to balance

00:31:33.420 --> 00:31:35.980
their offense out if they want to be good all

00:31:35.980 --> 00:31:37.960
year long. Well, I know Selman made a ton of

00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:42.319
mistakes, but seeing where she was last year.

00:31:42.990 --> 00:31:46.069
And some of the things she is doing now, I think

00:31:46.069 --> 00:31:48.170
she is better. She needs to cut down her errors

00:31:48.170 --> 00:31:51.609
100%. I'm a Selman fan. I liked her at Ohio State.

00:31:51.809 --> 00:31:54.349
I think she's going to be very good. But that's

00:31:54.349 --> 00:31:55.970
what they need to do to win, in my opinion. I

00:31:55.970 --> 00:31:58.049
think Hugh Mocker panicked a bit today, actually,

00:31:58.109 --> 00:32:02.049
to be honest with you. I think she saw a game

00:32:02.049 --> 00:32:03.750
that was probably tougher than she thought it

00:32:03.750 --> 00:32:05.670
was going to be. And as they were going down,

00:32:05.890 --> 00:32:08.390
I'll give you a stat that probably forced her

00:32:08.390 --> 00:32:11.470
to do this. The two left sides for Penn State

00:32:11.470 --> 00:32:17.369
today. Their efficiency was 3 of 58. And just

00:32:17.369 --> 00:32:19.589
for people who aren't super familiar with volleyball

00:32:19.589 --> 00:32:21.569
stats, efficiency means you take the number of

00:32:21.569 --> 00:32:24.650
kills, you minus the total errors that you have,

00:32:24.730 --> 00:32:26.230
and then you put that over top of the number

00:32:26.230 --> 00:32:28.829
of attempts. Yeah, that's 5%. Yeah, it's not

00:32:28.829 --> 00:32:32.130
great. 6%, maybe. Pretty bad. So I think that

00:32:32.130 --> 00:32:34.650
she was probably telling Stark, get the ball

00:32:34.650 --> 00:32:38.329
to Martin. I mean, with reason, yeah. They wanted

00:32:38.329 --> 00:32:40.910
to win the match. There's no way that Schumacher

00:32:40.910 --> 00:32:43.460
wanted to lose this match. And this is how she

00:32:43.460 --> 00:32:45.279
saw herself winning. Because if you looked at

00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:46.680
the end of the match, and I agree with you on

00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:48.920
Jura Vicious, she had opportunity at the end

00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:51.519
of that fourth game to put it away and keep her

00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.980
team alive. Didn't happen. She swung negative,

00:32:54.099 --> 00:32:56.319
by the way, in this match. I think the transition

00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.680
for her from right side to left side is going

00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.039
to be a problem unless they can figure this out.

00:33:02.259 --> 00:33:05.000
It is not an easy transition to go from right

00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.539
side to left side. Okay. I hope they got a young

00:33:07.539 --> 00:33:09.539
kid or somebody coming off the bench because

00:33:09.539 --> 00:33:12.000
that experiment might not work all the way through.

00:33:12.589 --> 00:33:15.829
Agreed. Okay, what does Pitt need to do? Pitt

00:33:15.829 --> 00:33:18.089
is not looking good to me, you guys. I'm sorry

00:33:18.089 --> 00:33:21.069
I said this last episode. Pitt was overrated

00:33:21.069 --> 00:33:24.309
in the initial rankings. I am not loving what

00:33:24.309 --> 00:33:26.529
I'm seeing at all. Pitt needs to pass the ball.

00:33:26.990 --> 00:33:29.849
Pitt has two good middles and Babcock. Yeah,

00:33:29.869 --> 00:33:32.289
the only three players who came back. Yes, they

00:33:32.289 --> 00:33:34.190
have two good middles and Babcock. And the way

00:33:34.190 --> 00:33:35.930
they're passing, they can't get the middles involved.

00:33:36.450 --> 00:33:39.450
So all of a sudden, same type of thing. As the

00:33:39.450 --> 00:33:42.319
game evolves and it's getting tight. Everybody

00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.579
in the gym knows where that ball's going. It's

00:33:45.579 --> 00:33:48.500
going to Babcock. Everybody knows it. And I don't

00:33:48.500 --> 00:33:50.839
care how good you are. When you see a steady

00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.539
diet of double blocks on you all the time with

00:33:53.539 --> 00:33:56.460
no seam, nothing, it's wearing on you. Life sucks.

00:33:56.740 --> 00:34:01.319
Yeah. I find it's not fun, but like that's part

00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:05.180
of the job of being. A right side. Absolutely.

00:34:05.339 --> 00:34:08.699
And I feel uniquely qualified to say that because

00:34:08.699 --> 00:34:11.300
I was that player. And you played for Canada,

00:34:11.420 --> 00:34:13.599
who couldn't pass. So you hit a lot of out -of

00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.159
-system balls. I feel like I can say that because

00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.039
I lived it. It's part of it. Let's put it in

00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.059
perspective, though. You lived it in both realms.

00:34:22.340 --> 00:34:25.500
You lived it as the right side for Canada that

00:34:25.500 --> 00:34:28.369
was the big -time scorer. But you also lived

00:34:28.369 --> 00:34:31.690
at Nebraska with a good team around you that

00:34:31.690 --> 00:34:33.730
made life easier. And I don't think you would

00:34:33.730 --> 00:34:35.789
argue that playing for Nebraska and having people

00:34:35.789 --> 00:34:38.210
there that could play with you and did a great

00:34:38.210 --> 00:34:41.269
job made life easier for everybody. Oh, it's

00:34:41.269 --> 00:34:42.989
great to play on a well -balanced team. Yeah.

00:34:43.010 --> 00:34:45.110
It's amazing. And that's what Babcock probably

00:34:45.110 --> 00:34:47.550
experienced last year, a well -balanced team

00:34:47.550 --> 00:34:50.389
people had to respect. And I feel bad for her,

00:34:50.429 --> 00:34:53.130
but unless they get something else in there and

00:34:53.130 --> 00:34:55.539
the passing improves. It's going to be tough.

00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:57.739
I respect the fact that she stayed, though. It

00:34:57.739 --> 00:34:59.500
might be good for her international career to

00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:02.780
have a little adversity. There we go. We've talked

00:35:02.780 --> 00:35:05.539
about how USA needs a right side who can swing

00:35:05.539 --> 00:35:08.260
at a system. Olivia Babcock is getting the training

00:35:08.260 --> 00:35:10.440
in. I have a lot of respect for her for staying,

00:35:10.500 --> 00:35:13.099
too. I think it's a great thing. I respect her

00:35:13.099 --> 00:35:15.579
a lot for sticking around when they've lost so

00:35:15.579 --> 00:35:18.059
many players. So Penn State needs to run a balanced

00:35:18.059 --> 00:35:20.019
offense. Pitt needs to learn to pass the ball.

00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.320
What does Texas need to do? Get experience. They

00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:26.059
are young. I have two opinions of this. Neither

00:35:26.059 --> 00:35:30.599
are going to be popular. One is Swindle needs

00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.300
to do her job now that she's the starting setter,

00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.280
and I watched her set some balls in the last

00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:37.900
two weeks, and I thought, oh boy, it's going

00:35:37.900 --> 00:35:40.440
to be a long season in Texas. You ran the other

00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:42.340
setter out of town. Yeah, you ran the other setter

00:35:42.340 --> 00:35:44.639
out of town, Texas fans, so let's see what happens.

00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.599
You got one girl in there doing the job, and

00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.019
she... better do it and she better leave because

00:35:50.019 --> 00:35:52.260
you have some young players there. And the other

00:35:52.260 --> 00:35:55.559
one, Tori Stafford needs to be a star now. You

00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.739
were on a team with Babcock. You didn't have

00:35:58.739 --> 00:36:01.559
double blocks all the time. You know, life is

00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:03.780
easy when you've got a good middle and a good

00:36:03.780 --> 00:36:06.019
right side and you're hitting balls from the

00:36:06.019 --> 00:36:09.900
best setter in the country. You left, you moved,

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.659
you better be the star. You know, I think with

00:36:14.659 --> 00:36:19.429
time, They will be very good. I agree. Will they

00:36:19.429 --> 00:36:22.750
be able to close the gap on Nebraska? I don't

00:36:22.750 --> 00:36:27.690
know right now, but I do agree with you. They're

00:36:27.690 --> 00:36:30.389
going to need 20 points from Torrey Stafford

00:36:30.389 --> 00:36:33.949
in big matches. Those two things are going to

00:36:33.949 --> 00:36:35.150
need to happen. They're young players I thought

00:36:35.150 --> 00:36:36.690
looked pretty good. I thought so too. They're

00:36:36.690 --> 00:36:38.389
going to keep getting better. For them to have

00:36:38.389 --> 00:36:41.250
success, Swindle and Stafford are going to have

00:36:41.250 --> 00:36:43.769
to be... really, really good and really, really

00:36:43.769 --> 00:36:45.429
consistent because there's going to be mistakes

00:36:45.429 --> 00:36:47.389
from those young players. Okay, we're not touching

00:36:47.389 --> 00:36:49.110
on every single team and what they have to win,

00:36:49.250 --> 00:36:52.610
but our last one that we can touch on, it doesn't

00:36:52.610 --> 00:36:54.110
have to be long because we talked about them

00:36:54.110 --> 00:36:56.210
already, is Nebraska. They've got to be able

00:36:56.210 --> 00:36:57.949
to score out of system. I think their right sides

00:36:57.949 --> 00:37:01.130
have to score points. Also fair. So to sum it

00:37:01.130 --> 00:37:03.289
up, Penn State needs to run a balanced offense,

00:37:03.349 --> 00:37:05.409
figure out the errors on the left side, pit,

00:37:05.630 --> 00:37:08.010
let's pass the ball, let's get some in system.

00:37:08.710 --> 00:37:11.010
Play happening here. Texas needs to figure out

00:37:11.010 --> 00:37:13.070
their setting situation, get some experience

00:37:13.070 --> 00:37:14.869
for their young players. Torrey Stafford really

00:37:14.869 --> 00:37:18.670
needs to step up. And Nebraska, left sides need

00:37:18.670 --> 00:37:20.090
to improve, but they're out of system hitting,

00:37:20.170 --> 00:37:22.750
and we need production from the right side. Those

00:37:22.750 --> 00:37:26.150
are our way too early critiques. I don't think

00:37:26.150 --> 00:37:27.889
Pitt is going to be in the discussion for national

00:37:27.889 --> 00:37:31.409
championship. That is like the earliest statement

00:37:31.409 --> 00:37:35.590
I could ever make. Don't come at me for it. Take

00:37:35.590 --> 00:37:39.090
Pitt out and put Kentucky in. Fine, yeah, Kentucky.

00:37:39.809 --> 00:37:42.969
Run somebody other than your left side. Well,

00:37:43.090 --> 00:37:45.869
you know, watch Kentucky. Watch Kentucky. Their

00:37:45.869 --> 00:37:47.889
right side for me, though, is a big question

00:37:47.889 --> 00:37:50.409
mark. Yeah, she's pretty small. She's small.

00:37:50.469 --> 00:37:52.690
She gets up. I thought she was the substitute

00:37:52.690 --> 00:37:55.130
setter for a second, and then she hit, and I

00:37:55.130 --> 00:37:59.269
was like, wait, what? But with those two left

00:37:59.269 --> 00:38:01.789
sides, if you can get something else going, they're

00:38:01.789 --> 00:38:04.530
going to be a handful for everyone. Oh, yeah.

00:38:05.130 --> 00:38:08.789
All right, we have seen a lot of the top teams

00:38:08.789 --> 00:38:13.449
play, if not all. We have seen a lot of the big

00:38:13.449 --> 00:38:18.269
name transfers, the buzzy transfers play in a

00:38:18.269 --> 00:38:23.090
few matches now. So after the very start of the

00:38:23.090 --> 00:38:26.389
season, first few matches, who do you think was

00:38:26.389 --> 00:38:30.730
the biggest transfer pickup? Well, only one.

00:38:32.780 --> 00:38:36.139
Let's modify this a little bit. Let's go, who

00:38:36.139 --> 00:38:38.980
do you think is going to be the most important

00:38:38.980 --> 00:38:42.800
for their team? Going to be or who is currently

00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.519
the biggest? Currently. Because it's, I mean,

00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:47.380
you could just argue like this is the best player

00:38:47.380 --> 00:38:49.340
no matter what. But who is going to make the

00:38:49.340 --> 00:38:51.340
biggest, who made the biggest impact on their

00:38:51.340 --> 00:38:55.380
team? I have two. Okay. Martin from Penn State

00:38:55.380 --> 00:38:59.960
has had to already start to carry a load. And

00:38:59.960 --> 00:39:02.889
there's no doubt. Mimi Collier has to carry a

00:39:02.889 --> 00:39:09.409
load for Wisconsin. Though, if I may, my hat's

00:39:09.409 --> 00:39:13.070
off to Grace Egan, is it? Yeah. I thought she

00:39:13.070 --> 00:39:16.329
played really well today. And I don't think they

00:39:16.329 --> 00:39:18.429
expected her to start on the right side because

00:39:18.429 --> 00:39:21.309
they had Grace Lopez come in from Miami, who

00:39:21.309 --> 00:39:23.050
I think they intended on playing on the right

00:39:23.050 --> 00:39:27.250
side. So Egan came in from Ohio State. Yes, Mimi

00:39:27.250 --> 00:39:29.289
Collier has to carry a heavy load, but she is

00:39:29.289 --> 00:39:32.099
not replacing Franklin. I'm sorry. I never said

00:39:32.099 --> 00:39:34.340
she was placing Franklin. They're still losing

00:39:34.340 --> 00:39:36.320
out in that position. But they needed somebody

00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:38.639
that could go up on the left side and score some

00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:40.960
points, and I thought she's doing a pretty decent

00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.900
job. I think Martin is the one that is going

00:39:44.900 --> 00:39:46.940
to make the biggest difference at the end of

00:39:46.940 --> 00:39:51.360
this thing. I agree. Penn State needs somebody

00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:53.960
to score points for them, and it's going to be

00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:56.550
Martin. They are going to live and die. With

00:39:56.550 --> 00:39:58.489
how she plays. You guys know that I can't help

00:39:58.489 --> 00:40:01.269
myself and I can't be too positive. So I'm going

00:40:01.269 --> 00:40:05.730
to say I was most disappointed by Tori Stafford

00:40:05.730 --> 00:40:09.269
as a transfer with all the hype. And I loved

00:40:09.269 --> 00:40:12.150
her at Pitt. I loved her. I still think she's

00:40:12.150 --> 00:40:15.690
a great player. But she was the biggest disappointment

00:40:15.690 --> 00:40:18.409
for me in the transfer game with how much hype

00:40:18.409 --> 00:40:20.469
she had around her. She was getting blocked like

00:40:20.469 --> 00:40:23.510
crazy. I agree with you, Sarah. It was not a

00:40:23.510 --> 00:40:26.920
good start. I agree. I thought, I really didn't

00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:29.360
pay much attention, really, to Stafford last

00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.980
year. As a team, they were just so good. Yeah,

00:40:32.019 --> 00:40:34.280
as a team, they were so good. But Babcock was

00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.699
there, and I just was mesmerized by how this

00:40:37.699 --> 00:40:40.760
girl played. And then I heard Stafford, Stafford,

00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.099
Stafford during the portal season. So when I

00:40:44.099 --> 00:40:48.300
watched Texas, I was expecting 22 kills, 20 kills.

00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:52.219
Today was nine. Now, they handled Wisconsin with

00:40:52.219 --> 00:40:54.440
no problem. They handled Wisconsin, but even

00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:56.519
when, who did they play? Was it Creighton or

00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:01.579
Kansas that they played? She could not hit past

00:41:01.579 --> 00:41:04.780
the block. Yeah. Yeah, I was disappointed. Well,

00:41:04.820 --> 00:41:06.960
and again, I don't think Swindle looked particularly

00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.039
good these last couple weeks in terms of getting

00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:11.679
her hitters in system, getting them in good places.

00:41:11.699 --> 00:41:14.619
Like, there's work to be done there. Stafford's

00:41:14.619 --> 00:41:16.039
a good player. They're going to figure it out.

00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:18.659
Swindle hasn't looked good for me since her freshman

00:41:18.659 --> 00:41:20.449
year. That wouldn't have been my choice, but

00:41:20.449 --> 00:41:22.969
that's who they have now. I think everybody listening

00:41:22.969 --> 00:41:25.269
has to understand, we're going out on a limb

00:41:25.269 --> 00:41:28.289
after two weeks. I know. That's the fun of it,

00:41:28.289 --> 00:41:29.690
though. That's the fun of it. You need to talk

00:41:29.690 --> 00:41:31.190
about it. You need to speculate. You need to

00:41:31.190 --> 00:41:34.309
stir up some controversy. That's what we're here

00:41:34.309 --> 00:41:37.130
for. I want to read those comments. We may have

00:41:37.130 --> 00:41:39.889
another opinion in November. Yeah, in November

00:41:39.889 --> 00:41:41.489
we'll be like, remember that episode at the end

00:41:41.489 --> 00:41:44.789
of August? Let's take it all back. Sarah and

00:41:44.789 --> 00:41:46.230
I aren't sleeping right now anyway, so we're

00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:49.150
not going to remember any of this. Exactly. All

00:41:49.150 --> 00:41:55.110
right, our last NCAA Women's Question of the

00:41:55.110 --> 00:41:58.909
Week. Who do you guys think are going to finish

00:41:58.909 --> 00:42:04.050
top, let's say, two or three in each of the Power

00:42:04.050 --> 00:42:07.070
Four conferences? So who are your picks for top

00:42:07.070 --> 00:42:10.269
three in the Big Ten? In the Big Ten, I think

00:42:10.269 --> 00:42:13.809
Nebraska is going to finish one. I think they're

00:42:13.809 --> 00:42:15.769
just better than everybody else. Then I'm going

00:42:15.769 --> 00:42:19.139
to go with Penn State. Even after their loss

00:42:19.139 --> 00:42:21.679
to Arizona State today? Yeah. Even after exposing

00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:23.800
their weaknesses? Yeah, they're going to get

00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.159
better. They're going to figure it out. I'm an

00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:29.119
Izzy Stark fan. She's going to find her offense.

00:42:29.380 --> 00:42:32.360
Again, I'm not worried about that. Three, that's

00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:36.320
a tough one. Wisconsin did not look great to

00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.360
me. We have UCLA who went in preseason four.

00:42:39.739 --> 00:42:44.059
No. I was like, on principle, no. No. UCLA is

00:42:44.059 --> 00:42:46.860
not going to be three. Wisconsin. We're sticking

00:42:46.860 --> 00:42:49.780
with the usual suspects and Adams. Well, I didn't

00:42:49.780 --> 00:42:51.960
pick them in any order, but I went Nebraska,

00:42:52.219 --> 00:42:55.179
Penn State, Wisconsin too. I thought, unfortunately.

00:42:55.179 --> 00:42:57.320
Nobody thinks UCLA is going to make a push with

00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:01.260
their transfers? No. No. Okay. I thought, really,

00:43:01.420 --> 00:43:04.699
like it's rather sad, but I thought if we were

00:43:04.699 --> 00:43:08.239
looking before Portal, I would have looked at

00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:12.730
Purdue and Ohio State too. They've been decimated.

00:43:13.510 --> 00:43:17.329
Purdue, too. That stinks for them. Yeah, so those

00:43:17.329 --> 00:43:21.150
are my three. My concern with Wisconsin is, are

00:43:21.150 --> 00:43:23.670
they going to be able to find an identity this

00:43:23.670 --> 00:43:27.130
season? They've always been big and physical,

00:43:27.289 --> 00:43:30.900
and they've just... That's been Wisconsin volleyball,

00:43:31.179 --> 00:43:33.440
and they don't have that anymore. They have good

00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:36.199
players. You know, they're skilled. But what

00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:38.300
are they going to gel around? What are they going

00:43:38.300 --> 00:43:42.039
to hold on to? I'm curious to see what they become

00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.300
as a team. Well, what do you do when your entire

00:43:44.300 --> 00:43:48.389
roster... leaves or graduates you go transfer

00:43:48.389 --> 00:43:50.429
diving well that's the thing like you can't develop

00:43:50.429 --> 00:43:53.090
an identity yeah you can't develop an identity

00:43:53.090 --> 00:43:55.610
losing like 10 athletes no that's why he gets

00:43:55.610 --> 00:43:57.969
paid the big bucks yeah but you have like programs

00:43:57.969 --> 00:44:00.949
no i'm saying you have to he has to but it's

00:44:00.949 --> 00:44:03.250
like hard when you have that level of turnover

00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.260
Yeah, but again, programs have identities outside

00:44:07.260 --> 00:44:09.360
of their players, right? Like Nebraska's super

00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:12.559
defensive. Texas is very physical. Penn State

00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:16.380
is gritty. Pitt has got that swagger. Wisconsin's

00:44:16.380 --> 00:44:19.780
always been big and physical, and they don't

00:44:19.780 --> 00:44:22.320
have those athletes anymore. So their whole...

00:44:22.570 --> 00:44:25.369
culture and mentality is going to have to change.

00:44:25.809 --> 00:44:28.070
Furbringer likes to run more of a faster offense.

00:44:28.809 --> 00:44:31.190
Well, it'll suit her because now she's got smaller

00:44:31.190 --> 00:44:32.809
players. Yeah, but there's a shift that's going

00:44:32.809 --> 00:44:34.769
to have to happen with how they do things as

00:44:34.769 --> 00:44:36.949
a staff. I'm curious to see how they pull it

00:44:36.949 --> 00:44:38.769
off. They're talented. They're going to figure

00:44:38.769 --> 00:44:42.329
it out, but it'll be interesting to watch. ACC?

00:44:42.929 --> 00:44:44.789
Pitt, Louisville, Stanford, and no particular

00:44:44.789 --> 00:44:48.309
order. Yeah, I think I have Pitt, Stanford, Louisville

00:44:48.309 --> 00:44:50.989
in that order. You think Pitt's going to win?

00:44:51.050 --> 00:44:54.289
I think, okay. We critique them on a national

00:44:54.289 --> 00:44:57.449
championship stage of winning it all. They still

00:44:57.449 --> 00:45:01.670
have bad cock. They still have good middles.

00:45:01.690 --> 00:45:04.190
Like, they're still going to be good. And in

00:45:04.190 --> 00:45:06.789
conference play, I just don't think, like Stanford's

00:45:06.789 --> 00:45:10.050
super young. Louisville's lost their head coach

00:45:10.050 --> 00:45:11.269
and a couple other players. I didn't see Louisville

00:45:11.269 --> 00:45:13.949
at all this last week. I think Pitt is still

00:45:13.949 --> 00:45:16.010
going to be the class of that division. I didn't

00:45:16.010 --> 00:45:19.639
see Louisville either, but I... Figure that they've

00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.260
been very, very good for a number of years. They

00:45:22.260 --> 00:45:25.639
can't have dropped that far. Stanford, I understand

00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:28.679
why. They just absolutely got slaughtered by

00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:30.460
Nebraska. They got slaughtered by Nebraska, but

00:45:30.460 --> 00:45:33.780
they beat Florida. Yes. And Ilya Rubin had a

00:45:33.780 --> 00:45:36.699
really good week. Yeah. Yeah, those are the three

00:45:36.699 --> 00:45:39.139
for me. All right. Looks like we're all agreeing.

00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.719
What about the SEC? Kentucky, Texas, Florida.

00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:45.659
Texas and Florida, for me, could flip -flop depending

00:45:45.659 --> 00:45:48.800
on how quickly Texas comes together. Well, I

00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:52.139
picked three and then I put a fourth. Vanderbilt?

00:45:52.260 --> 00:45:54.320
No, I'm just kidding. No, maybe I've got that

00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.519
conference wrong too. Texas, Kentucky, Florida,

00:45:56.699 --> 00:45:59.219
Texas A &M. Oh yeah, don't sleep on Texas A &M.

00:45:59.219 --> 00:46:01.320
I can't leave them out of this because I think

00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:03.599
they could be really, really good too. Well,

00:46:03.619 --> 00:46:05.400
you guys are agreeing on everything. Okay, Big

00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:10.059
12. Arizona State, Kansas, and Utah. Again, I've

00:46:10.059 --> 00:46:13.199
only seen one game from one and I've seen Kansas

00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:16.199
a whole lot. Kansas, I'll put them in there as

00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:19.059
a top three. I don't think... They can beat any

00:46:19.059 --> 00:46:21.219
of the top teams. There's just not enough there,

00:46:21.300 --> 00:46:23.239
but they can do well in their conference. And

00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:26.340
then ASU today really impressed me, but who knows

00:46:26.340 --> 00:46:29.280
if they can do that again. And BYU, so those

00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.260
are my three, though. BYU, okay. This is the

00:46:32.260 --> 00:46:35.179
one that there's a slight disagreement. And again,

00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:37.639
we haven't seen Utah or BYU play anybody, so

00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.880
it's a little bit off last year and what happened

00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:41.860
in the portal, but we'll see what happens. Playing

00:46:41.860 --> 00:46:44.000
it safe here, sticking with the usual suspects.

00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:47.760
It was a really, the NCAA season's off to a great

00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.039
start. It was so entertaining. So entertaining,

00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:53.460
so many good matches to watch. If you missed

00:46:53.460 --> 00:46:57.559
any of the big ones, check them out. There is

00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.980
going to be a ton more happening. this coming

00:47:00.980 --> 00:47:05.579
week so that was just a little taste what we

00:47:05.579 --> 00:47:08.599
want to see more of but let us know your thoughts

00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:11.800
for sure as we head into this coming week all

00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:15.920
right it is time for listener questions our first

00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.280
question so in an episode a long time ago I talked

00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:24.099
about how Danny Busboom will be able to recruit

00:47:25.099 --> 00:47:27.639
any anybody in the country now because she's

00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.159
at Nebraska and I said like Nebraska is just

00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.539
one of those schools that like most players want

00:47:32.539 --> 00:47:35.619
to go to this question came about from that in

00:47:35.619 --> 00:47:39.599
what are some of the schools that are able to

00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:42.300
go after and recruit the top high schoolers in

00:47:42.300 --> 00:47:44.820
the country the two that jump out to me right

00:47:44.820 --> 00:47:48.199
away are Nebraska Texas yes like those programs

00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:52.840
can get whoever they want and it's not kind of

00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:55.630
eyebrow raising you know I would say Stanford's

00:47:55.630 --> 00:47:58.949
up there, but their ability to accept students

00:47:58.949 --> 00:48:02.889
without a certain mark is limited. But I think

00:48:02.889 --> 00:48:04.829
that school has a huge draw as well. I think

00:48:04.829 --> 00:48:07.889
Wisconsin is now in that category with them.

00:48:08.070 --> 00:48:10.829
Penn State is in that category now. I would say

00:48:10.829 --> 00:48:12.530
Penn State more than Wisconsin. Yeah, I would

00:48:12.530 --> 00:48:14.929
say. Okay, that's fair. So here's my other question

00:48:14.929 --> 00:48:17.730
to you. As a female sport for female athletes,

00:48:17.909 --> 00:48:20.389
does having a female head coach, do you think

00:48:20.389 --> 00:48:23.920
that that adds to your ability to recruit? I

00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:26.260
think this day and age, I think it is definitely

00:48:26.260 --> 00:48:30.099
a draw. I tend to agree with you. I think it's

00:48:30.099 --> 00:48:33.320
a draw when the name is Danny Busboom, what she's

00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:35.659
been able to build, and she's got a reputation.

00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.880
But the women like Danny and Schumacher Collie,

00:48:38.940 --> 00:48:42.880
those two, girls want to play for them. You have

00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.440
to be a good coach. You have to be. What I'm

00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:48.039
saying is all things equal. If you had the same

00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:50.659
resume and the same credentials and the same

00:48:50.659 --> 00:48:54.139
success. I think playing for a female coach probably

00:48:54.139 --> 00:48:57.920
is one thing that would tip the scales. Unless

00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.619
you're Nebraska. I think if you're Nebraska,

00:49:00.980 --> 00:49:04.059
it doesn't matter, female or male. It's just

00:49:04.059 --> 00:49:08.059
got that aura about it. And that's like the essence

00:49:08.059 --> 00:49:10.860
of the question, I guess. It's just like... You

00:49:10.860 --> 00:49:13.500
know how much they still will get out of that

00:49:13.500 --> 00:49:17.380
93 ,000 fans? You don't think they play that

00:49:17.380 --> 00:49:19.380
video in front of those kids when they come in

00:49:19.380 --> 00:49:24.079
for a visit? Come on. That sells, trust me. So

00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:28.960
to sum it up, Nebraska, Texas, Penn State, Stanford,

00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:34.440
if you're a good student, are the schools who

00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.719
can kind of have their pick, I would say. I would,

00:49:37.739 --> 00:49:39.599
as a caveat to that, I would say if any of the

00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:41.480
West Coast schools with the great weather get

00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:45.940
their programs to a top place, that then becomes

00:49:45.940 --> 00:49:48.159
a destination to go to for the lifestyle as well.

00:49:48.489 --> 00:49:50.030
but the programs aren't good enough right now.

00:49:50.110 --> 00:49:52.570
Agree. That UCLA campus, one of the most beautiful

00:49:52.570 --> 00:49:55.670
in the country. All right, question two. With

00:49:55.670 --> 00:49:57.969
the COVID season giving players an extra year,

00:49:58.110 --> 00:50:00.750
is it really fair that certain players have broken

00:50:00.750 --> 00:50:03.050
records at their respective schools when others

00:50:03.050 --> 00:50:06.110
in the past will only get four seasons of stats?

00:50:06.889 --> 00:50:10.110
Asterisk. I think there needs to be an asterisk

00:50:10.110 --> 00:50:12.570
next to those because like Dana Retke, for example,

00:50:12.750 --> 00:50:15.650
five -time first -team All -American. Yeah, because

00:50:15.650 --> 00:50:18.579
you played five seasons. Nobody else had that

00:50:18.579 --> 00:50:21.760
opportunity. I don't think it's fair, no. I don't

00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.480
think it's fair either. So then when you played

00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.119
to 30, does that put an asterisk on your records?

00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:29.559
Absolutely not, because we won most games in

00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:33.699
three sets. And, no, actually we can take that

00:50:33.699 --> 00:50:37.679
back a little further. Because when you played

00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:41.900
to 15 and didn't have... No rally scoring. No

00:50:41.900 --> 00:50:44.139
rally scoring, those games could go on for four

00:50:44.139 --> 00:50:46.500
hours. Sure. I'm just saying. So we have the

00:50:46.500 --> 00:50:49.079
rally scoring era. We have the era that I played

00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:52.000
in when we played to 30. Then we've got the COVID

00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.320
era. And I'm sorry, playing to 30 points in a

00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.699
set does not make up an extra year. And the side

00:50:57.699 --> 00:51:03.619
outs era. And the side out era. But so I was

00:51:03.619 --> 00:51:06.199
like kind of joking. But like when you win in

00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.960
three and you never go like five, that also makes

00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:13.079
a huge difference. I think it's unfair. I think

00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:14.980
there definitely has to be a... I think there's

00:51:14.980 --> 00:51:17.360
only a handful of cases where this actually matters.

00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:20.480
Dana Recchi going five times. It's good to talk

00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.320
about it. Yeah, it's fair. But in the grand scheme

00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:27.079
of things, you still know. It's obviously not

00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.119
fair. Let's face facts. Question three. Could

00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:33.039
you elaborate on what hitting angles actually

00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:35.739
means? Also, what does it mean to hit outside

00:51:35.739 --> 00:51:39.559
of your body and why is that a good tool? So

00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:42.019
this person, when they submitted this question,

00:51:42.139 --> 00:51:44.079
they were like, when you say hitting angles,

00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:46.380
I thought it meant like hitting cross court and

00:51:46.380 --> 00:51:49.139
hitting line. When I talk about hitting angles,

00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:53.780
I tend to refer to it as hitting inside the attack

00:51:53.780 --> 00:51:57.659
line. Like really going for a sharp cross court

00:51:57.659 --> 00:52:02.039
angle. That's what I refer to it as. Because

00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:06.340
you don't see that happen much anymore. So that's

00:52:06.340 --> 00:52:09.000
what it means. And like when I say to hit outside

00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:12.519
your body, you see a lot of players like they

00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.219
hit wherever their shoulders are facing when

00:52:15.219 --> 00:52:17.579
they're hitting. That is the direction the ball

00:52:17.579 --> 00:52:21.159
goes. When I say hit outside your body, it means

00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:25.400
the ball is traveling in a way from where the

00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.920
shoulders are pointing. And to do that, you like

00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.539
take you use your wrist to hit the side of the

00:52:31.539 --> 00:52:34.500
ball. to drag the ball away from the defender.

00:52:36.619 --> 00:52:39.619
Defenders tend to line up around the block and

00:52:39.619 --> 00:52:42.079
then they line up where the hitter's shoulders

00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:45.659
are facing. So if you're using your wrist to

00:52:45.659 --> 00:52:48.280
hit the side of the ball to get a little bit

00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:50.820
of spin away, it makes it much more difficult

00:52:50.820 --> 00:52:55.960
to read defensively and to dig even if you do

00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:58.179
get a hand on it because it has that movement.

00:52:58.980 --> 00:53:01.460
So that's what I mean. Like when we talk about

00:53:01.460 --> 00:53:03.300
this with young kids, because like I mentioned,

00:53:03.380 --> 00:53:06.000
I'm a club coach. We talk to kids often about

00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:08.559
watch your hitter. This hitter is a body line

00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.719
hitter, meaning wherever she's coming in on that

00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:13.579
angle, that's where the ball is going to go.

00:53:13.619 --> 00:53:16.420
So move yourself behind her shoulders. But then

00:53:16.420 --> 00:53:18.480
you get the hitter that'll be there and they'll

00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:20.480
snap it one way or the other with their wrist.

00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:22.699
And now you've got to be a little more elite

00:53:22.699 --> 00:53:25.059
of them. player to dig that ball well and this

00:53:25.059 --> 00:53:26.400
is kind of goes back to what we were talking

00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.300
about with lexi right players are doing this

00:53:28.300 --> 00:53:30.159
more at the international level than they are

00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.380
at the collegiate level and she's just trying

00:53:32.380 --> 00:53:35.119
to figure out what's possible dialing into different

00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:38.539
hitters question four if you were coaching against

00:53:38.539 --> 00:53:40.760
the italian women's national team what would

00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:44.800
your strategy be to beat them boo that's a really

00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.579
good question one thing i'd want i'd definitely

00:53:47.579 --> 00:53:51.630
do is make sure if I could, because the Liberos

00:53:51.630 --> 00:53:54.829
are so active, is try to get Igano to play that

00:53:54.829 --> 00:53:57.250
first ball. That's one thing I would definitely

00:53:57.250 --> 00:54:01.750
try to make happen. That was my initial idea,

00:54:01.849 --> 00:54:05.610
to serve short, to try to get the right side

00:54:05.610 --> 00:54:08.519
to come in and pass a short ball. or to create

00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:12.300
a conflict zone for the middle to take away their

00:54:12.300 --> 00:54:15.079
approach angle. When Italy has three or four

00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.659
options, you are not going to stop them. So you

00:54:17.659 --> 00:54:21.559
need to try to hinder or take away at least one

00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:23.920
of them. And I think the way to do that, because

00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:26.800
Italy's passing is so good, is to serve short

00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:31.159
to try to draw one of the front row attackers

00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:34.429
to pass. Yeah, you can also serve across middle

00:54:34.429 --> 00:54:37.289
zones to try and jam up their approaches so that

00:54:37.289 --> 00:54:39.289
it's a little more uncomfortable to set them.

00:54:39.429 --> 00:54:41.489
I mean, offensively, their weakness is their

00:54:41.489 --> 00:54:44.630
left sides. You want them to set their left sides

00:54:44.630 --> 00:54:46.510
as much as possible, and that gives you the best

00:54:46.510 --> 00:54:48.170
chance to beat them. Serving and strategically

00:54:48.170 --> 00:54:51.150
putting the ball to Iganu, those would be the

00:54:51.150 --> 00:54:53.630
things that you're trying to get at. But as you

00:54:53.630 --> 00:54:57.449
watch these games, just focus on... what liberos

00:54:57.449 --> 00:55:00.309
and how active they are it's pretty amazing how

00:55:00.309 --> 00:55:02.750
much ground they will cover to get a ball yeah

00:55:02.750 --> 00:55:05.010
and that's the mark of a good libero is like

00:55:05.010 --> 00:55:08.349
when your passers that you're passing with know

00:55:08.349 --> 00:55:12.010
that if the ball is anywhere in your zone you're

00:55:12.010 --> 00:55:15.929
taking it like that's that is the mark of a good

00:55:15.929 --> 00:55:18.630
libero but italy is so good that they always

00:55:18.630 --> 00:55:20.769
make adjustments and they come back but like

00:55:20.769 --> 00:55:24.010
so you need to be able to counter that but to

00:55:24.010 --> 00:55:27.250
start the serving strategy is what I would go

00:55:27.250 --> 00:55:30.050
with. All right, our last question of the week

00:55:30.050 --> 00:55:33.969
is, how much do you think Brazil's lack of great

00:55:33.969 --> 00:55:37.070
opposites impacts them? Rosa Maria has gotten

00:55:37.070 --> 00:55:40.690
a lot of hate from Brazilian fans in VNL, but

00:55:40.690 --> 00:55:42.570
I don't think it's her fault that Brazil doesn't

00:55:42.570 --> 00:55:45.150
have anyone better, especially with such bad

00:55:45.150 --> 00:55:48.230
setting in the final. Plus, Ana Cristina's injured,

00:55:48.409 --> 00:55:50.550
and they've really lacked aggression from the

00:55:50.550 --> 00:55:53.349
outsides. I mean... I mean, they don't have a

00:55:53.349 --> 00:55:56.940
Shayla. like they have in the past not having

00:55:56.940 --> 00:56:00.320
a really good opposite is debilitating it's a

00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.920
safety blanket for teams hey if we screw this

00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:05.079
up we've got a decent chance at scoring a point

00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.960
even massive for just team mentality about how

00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:10.039
you go about things not having an opposite at

00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:11.679
that level to be the best in the world that's

00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:14.400
a problem not that rosemary is bad but she's

00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.159
just but like i always saw her more as a left

00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:19.260
side but like compared to the left sides that

00:56:19.260 --> 00:56:21.619
brazil currently has she's just not she's that

00:56:21.619 --> 00:56:25.619
she's the l3 Four at this point with Ana Cristina's

00:56:25.619 --> 00:56:28.079
back. If you were to line Brazil up against the

00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:30.480
other top international teams and rank them purely

00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:33.360
on what they can put on the opposite side, they're

00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:37.940
seven? Eight? Well, I mean, Italy. It's not a

00:56:37.940 --> 00:56:42.340
coincidence. Serbia. Canada. Sweden. Sweden.

00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:45.739
You've nailed it right on the head. It's not

00:56:45.739 --> 00:56:48.300
a coincidence that the so -called greatest players

00:56:48.300 --> 00:56:51.400
in the world are mostly right sides. There's

00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:54.130
a reason. A. You got a lot of pressure on you.

00:56:54.190 --> 00:56:57.170
You have to score. It's not... When everybody

00:56:57.170 --> 00:56:59.829
knows that you're getting the ball, you need

00:56:59.829 --> 00:57:02.420
to score. You need to score. Yes, I think that's

00:57:02.420 --> 00:57:04.539
the reason they're not going to beat the top

00:57:04.539 --> 00:57:06.420
teams. And when they lose, it's because they

00:57:06.420 --> 00:57:08.679
lack somebody at that position who can get them

00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:10.940
out of a jam. Because they keep coming second.

00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:12.960
They're meddling. They're coming second. They

00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.659
are there. They're in the conversation. Let's

00:57:15.659 --> 00:57:19.639
rewind to when they won gold in London. Shayla

00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:23.420
was one of the top opposites in the world. Since

00:57:23.420 --> 00:57:26.280
she has retired. You don't need to be the best,

00:57:26.300 --> 00:57:29.780
but you need to be in the top five. Yeah. Yeah.

00:57:30.139 --> 00:57:34.300
Honestly, again, it's not Rosemarie or anybody's

00:57:34.300 --> 00:57:36.179
fault that they haven't been developed. Like

00:57:36.179 --> 00:57:38.840
Rosemarie was developed as a left side, as a

00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:41.380
young athlete. It's like with the U .S. The U

00:57:41.380 --> 00:57:43.780
.S. is in the same position. They need somebody

00:57:43.780 --> 00:57:46.159
who can score out of system. And it's not happening.

00:57:46.219 --> 00:57:49.500
Brazil is lucky that their left sides and middles

00:57:49.500 --> 00:57:54.340
are so good. It says a lot for that individual

00:57:54.340 --> 00:57:56.989
or those individuals that. everything's breaking

00:57:56.989 --> 00:57:59.190
down and everybody in the gym knows where the

00:57:59.190 --> 00:58:01.949
ball's going and you still have to score. Not

00:58:01.949 --> 00:58:03.929
a lot of people have the mentality to deal with

00:58:03.929 --> 00:58:06.909
that. This is always my favorite segment. You

00:58:06.909 --> 00:58:09.809
guys, I love getting your questions. I love reading

00:58:09.809 --> 00:58:12.110
them. I love thinking about them. I love answering

00:58:12.110 --> 00:58:15.250
them. So keep them coming. These were really

00:58:15.250 --> 00:58:17.750
good ones this week. So thank you so much to

00:58:17.750 --> 00:58:21.570
everybody who wrote us and sent them in. All

00:58:21.570 --> 00:58:23.250
right, so we pulled a few matches for you. I

00:58:23.250 --> 00:58:26.010
mean, obviously... world champs is going on so

00:58:26.010 --> 00:58:28.010
all of those matches are going to be priority

00:58:28.010 --> 00:58:31.110
yeah just watch all of those quarter semis finals

00:58:31.110 --> 00:58:32.909
the volleyball is going to be good we're coming

00:58:32.909 --> 00:58:34.949
down to crunch time who's going to step up who's

00:58:34.949 --> 00:58:37.690
not will brazil find an opposite in three days

00:58:37.690 --> 00:58:40.690
you know we'll see and we'll figure that out

00:58:40.690 --> 00:58:43.750
when we come in for looking into the ncaa here

00:58:43.750 --> 00:58:45.269
are the matches that i'm going to watch this

00:58:45.269 --> 00:58:49.059
week one we have kansas versus purdue That's

00:58:49.059 --> 00:58:51.820
a 14 -15. I like that. I think Kansas has been

00:58:51.820 --> 00:58:55.619
playing well. I'm curious, ranking wise, it's

00:58:55.619 --> 00:58:57.699
close in the standings. Purdue was decimated

00:58:57.699 --> 00:58:59.880
by the transfer portal. What do they have? Are

00:58:59.880 --> 00:59:01.940
they going to sink in the ranking? So that one

00:59:01.940 --> 00:59:04.239
has some interesting implications. So I'm looking

00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:06.599
forward to watching that one. So that match is

00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:11.219
Friday at 7 p .m. Eastern. We also have Kentucky,

00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:13.760
who's currently number seven, but should be higher.

00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:17.019
Penn State. Number two, probably going to drop.

00:59:17.179 --> 00:59:20.079
And that's going to be Friday as well at 8 o

00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:21.559
'clock Eastern. So you can watch those games

00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:24.300
back to back. That one I want to watch. Finally,

00:59:24.500 --> 00:59:27.420
Stanford, number six, Texas, number five are

00:59:27.420 --> 00:59:30.340
playing on Sunday. That time was TBD. I'm sure

00:59:30.340 --> 00:59:31.820
they'll post that online, but it's going to be

00:59:31.820 --> 00:59:34.699
on Sunday. I think that's going to be a fantastic

00:59:34.699 --> 00:59:37.300
game. So a couple things to put on your calendar.

00:59:37.539 --> 00:59:39.179
If you have a little time to watch some volleyball,

00:59:39.340 --> 00:59:41.460
those would be the ones I'm looking at. That

00:59:41.460 --> 00:59:43.940
concludes this week's episode of Volley Talk.

00:59:44.179 --> 00:59:45.920
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