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Hi volleyball fans and welcome back to Volley

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Talk, the podcast created for volleyball lovers

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who want to dig deep into what is going on in

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NCAA and international volleyball. I'm your host

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Sarah Pavan. I'm an Olympian, beach volleyball

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world champion, former Nebraska Cornhusker, and

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longtime pro, both indoor and on the beach. And

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I'm Adam Schultz, former indoor player, international

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volleyball coach, and the show's resident stat

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guy. The men's Champions League Final Four is

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set, and we are creeping closer and closer to

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playoff time for Love, the PVF, and the NCAA

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men's conference tournaments. We saw a lot of

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non -conference play this week on the men's side.

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I think it's kind of a weird time with some spring

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breaks, some exam time, depending on what system

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the schools are on. The teams were traveling

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all over the place this week. Love only has a

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couple weeks of play left before the season -ending

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tournament in Louisville, and there are about

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10 regular season games left in PVF before the

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Final Four is determined there as well. So we're

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coming down to crunch time, everybody, and we're

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seeing which teams are rising to the occasion

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and which ones are crumbling under the pressure.

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We love to see it both ways. We love the drama.

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So we have some fun stuff to discuss with you

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today and we cannot wait. So let's get started.

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As I said, the Men's Champions League Final Four

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is set, which means that the second phase of

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the quarterfinals took place this week. Zawierce

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from Poland beat Lunenberg 3 -1, which means

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they won both matches handily, 3 -0, 3 -1, so

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they are through. Perugia had a repeat 3 -1 performance

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against Monza, so they are through. Jastrzewski

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recovered, as we expected them to. They beat

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Olympiakos pretty handily, 3 -0. Happy for them

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that they had their... Cinderella run at home,

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but reality won out in the end. The team that

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I feel is, I don't want to say supposed to go,

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the team that is stronger is going, in my opinion.

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So since Jastrzewski earned one point in their

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five -set loss last week, there was no need for

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a golden set here because they earned three points

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in their 3 -0 win. So the final score... Between

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Jastrzewski and Olympiakos was 4 -2. So Jastrzewski

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gets to go on free of the golden set. Nobody

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wants to play one of those. We did have one though.

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We did not get away unscathed. So Warsaw beat

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Halkbank Ankara 3 -0. But if you remember from

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last week, Halkbank won 3 -1. And since both

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of those matches were three -point wins, we had

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to go to the golden set. So this match was actually

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played in Warsaw. And Hulk Bank won the Golden

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Set 15 -12. Heartbreaking. The Golden Set is

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always a roll of the dice. It's so entertaining

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and stressful to watch. And you lose it at home,

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too. Not the best. But, I mean, it keeps it interesting

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because, like, it would have been three Polish

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teams. And an Italian team. But now we've got

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two Polish teams, an Italian team, and Turkish.

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So the final four matchups are Perugia versus

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Halkbank and Zvezda versus Jastrzewski. So that,

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we've got a bit of a wait here, folks. So that

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is happening May 16th to 18th in Woods, Poland.

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So exciting stuff happening on that front. Love

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a golden set. Hate to play in them, but entertaining

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stuff. Great for the fans. On the NCAA men's

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side, as we predicted last week, Cal State Northridge

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had an interesting week, to say the least. You

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know that I have been scratching my head about

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how the heck this team is ranked number seven

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in the country. So we saw that CSUN beat Lewis

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in five, and then they turned around and lost

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to Loyola Chicago in five. So let's look at just

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a few of the numbers from here, because there

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are some interesting things to look at. So against

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Lewis, CSUN actually hit 216 versus Lewis's 350.

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So they probably shouldn't have won that match.

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Statistically, Lewis looks better in a lot of

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categories, blocking more digs or same number

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of digs roughly. But I think the difference here

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was where the serving happened. So CSUN had 11

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aces and 18 misses. That's actually pretty good.

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It's not bad, especially over five sets. That's

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like one ace to roughly one and a half errors.

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Yeah. That's very good, especially in men's.

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But Lewis went eight service aces to 21 service

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errors. So even though they hit better, they

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struggled from the service line to kind of...

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Keep consistent pressure, it looks like. And

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Jalen Phillips had 23 kills in that match and

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hit .364. I mean, he's their star. Yeah, so he

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was very good down the stretch. For Lewis, Oguz

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had 25 kills and hit .404, and Max Roquette had

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16 kills and hit .359. I mean, the scores of

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this one minus a couple sets were close, so it

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was a pretty good game. And if we look at CSUN

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versus Loyola Chicago, this was a little less

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of a serving clinic. We had CSUN had four aces

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to 27 errors. Wait for it. Loyola had five aces

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to 32 errors. So while this wasn't necessarily

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the best game to watch, given the sheer amount

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of serving errors that happened, Loyola Chicago

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did pull this out 18 -16 in the fifth. Yeah,

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because they're missing every single serve. It's

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just like point for point. Well, look at this.

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CSUN hit 185 on the match. Oh, my gosh. And Loyola

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Chicago hit 237. We had 26 hitting errors for

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Loyola Chicago and 25. for CSUN I hope they refunded

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everybody's ticket to that match oh my gosh it's

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just like error fest now if we do so I understand

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what Loyola Chicago was trying to do here they

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were trying to put on service pressure and get

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blocks against CSUN which they did so they had

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34 block assists in that match and three solo

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blocks so you've got to be joking me right now

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that's like 20 Team blocks. Yeah. We are going

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to go rip it from the baseline, and we're going

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to block, and we're going to take our chances.

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Oh, my gosh. Is this UCLA? That's what UCLA does.

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The game was a barn burner. Okay, so I'm going

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to go with Loyola Chicago scores first in all

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of these. 25 -22. 23 -25. 25 -23. 23 -25. 18

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-16. It could not be closer. Yeah, so CSUN had

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a couple of matches against ranked teams, lost

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a close one 18 -16, won a close one 17 -15, so

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all of those teams are in the mix. But do you

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think CSUN should be ranked 7th? I think they,

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wow. What are Lewis and Loyola Chicago currently

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ranked? Okay, so as of the week of March 17th,

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so the 24th hasn't come out yet. Loyola Chicago

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was 8, so we expected that one to be close. And

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Lewis is 15. I would say, if anything, Lewis

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should probably be a little higher, although

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they had a couple bad losses recently. Wasn't

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it they lost to Lindenwood last week? So, I don't

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know. They're all jumbled together in the middle.

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I think this puts those three teams. It should

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probably be... 9, 10, 11. Well, this just highlights

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what we've been saying, that you've got the top

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five teams that are just in a league of their

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own. And then the rest are decent, but it's just

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not the same volleyball. Yeah. I would be curious

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to see any of these teams play, for example,

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a Stanford, who in my mind is potentially...

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But is also of that ilk. Well, and that's my

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question. To me, they're a 1B. And are these

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teams a 1B or are they a 2B? Is there a little

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bit of separation there? And, you know, you have

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Pepperdine, who's got a ton of size. How do these

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teams deal with that? So there's a couple kind

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of interesting matchups, let's call them, from

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those teams who are in the middle of the men's

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currently. Ohio State actually had the exact

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same schedule as CSUN this week. They just traded.

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And Ohio State lost both of those matches. They

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are not having a great year. And then BYU and

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Grand Canyon had a back -to -back series. They

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split. So BYU won the first match in four, and

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GCU won the second one in three. Well, that match

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was interesting. So we watched that one. The

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first one. The first one. And BYU started really

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strong. So they won the first two sets. Like

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badly. It was like 18 and 18. Yeah, and were

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up in the third set. GCU just decided that they

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had figured it out at that point. GCU came back

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in the third set, played pretty well, made it

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close in the fourth, but had definitely found

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some rhythm and then just kept it rolling and

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swept the next day. It was really, it was kind

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of a weird match to watch, to be honest. Yeah,

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I would agree. Like we have watched, we watched

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BYU early in the season and they had some interesting

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roster switches. They were having trouble scoring.

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Keone Thim, I think he got blocked literally

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straight down 60 % of the time he swung. Yeah,

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he had a rough go. I said this when we watched

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them earlier this year. They set their balls

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so high. And when you have such an undersized

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hitter like that, who you want to be your go

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-to hitter, you need to give him speed because

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he is getting literally munched. It's so hard

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to hit against a well -formed block all the time.

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And I think he's capable of hitting a faster

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set. I think they need to figure it out. But

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they haven't yet, so I'm not sure how that's

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going to go. Yeah, it was a weird match. To GCU's

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credit, they were on the ropes, and they held

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it together. BYU had several match points, and

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they just kept going. And they had their lefty

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spin server come in, save the day. Put together

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a string of points when it mattered. It was interesting,

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but you got to wonder what's going on here. If

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you had to pick between GCU and BYU right now,

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who would you pick? If they were to play in the

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playoffs? I think they're pretty even. Even though

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the scores didn't go five and didn't push, I

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think they're pretty evenly matched. I think

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GCU edges them a little bit. Oh, man. On paper,

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you would think BYU would be better than they

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are. Agreed. And they're just... Not. But I think

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it's because of how they run their offense. I

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don't think they're maximizing the players that

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they have. Those balls are so high for everybody.

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And GCU seemed to get a beat on their hitters.

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By the second match, they knew where to position

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themselves. They knew how to set up the block,

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what the timing was. They had just settled into

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the rhythm against that team. Well, I think GCU

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runs their middle way better. Absolutely. And

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consistently. And they were virtually unstoppable.

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Like I really liked how GCU ran their middle,

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which opened things up. It's not like GCU's outsides

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are like crazy unbeatable hitters, but like things

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open up for them because their middles are so

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strong. We always talk about it. Always talk

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about it. If we look at love this week, we saw

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a third place showdown between Madison and Salt

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Lake with Madison winning three to two. Now we

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will talk about this game specifically. But this

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gives Madison third place outright. So we will

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see if they're able to hang on to that towards

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the end of the season. In the weekend for love,

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Atlanta beat Austin 3 -0. Not really a surprise.

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Omaha continues to lose, losing to Austin 3 -2

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and Houston 3 -1. So they're winless in their

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last, I'm not sure what the number is now. It's

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been a while, I think. On the website when they

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show the last four matches, it's just red for

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Omaha. So they are... They're struggling. Sammy

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Francis has joined Omaha and looked to have had

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a pretty good turnout. She scored a whole bunch

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of points for them, so we'll see. But I think

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it's just a little bit too late for Omaha. Well,

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it's my understanding that Stiverns is injured

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now too. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard

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that both Condelaria Herrera and Stiverns are

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injured, so they had to bring Francis in to have

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enough middles. Her and Thader led the team in

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points, which I love to see it. They, like, run

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that middle, okay? But you need some production

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from elsewhere. We also saw Jaylee Winters and

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Jordan Larson started the match, were taken out.

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It looked like they were running a 5 -1, which,

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why weren't you doing that? It was different.

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But, yeah, Sammy Francis coming back after a

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couple months. since her last game and just like,

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hey, I'll just leave the team. I liked her. I

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like what she does. I think she's good for that

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team. We always talk about running the middles

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more, which every team probably needs to do.

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But when you run your middles that much, your

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outsides need to score. Because you're going

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to be one -on -one everybody, okay? But we talked

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about this all season long with Omaha's outside

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hitting core being questionable in terms of being

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able to score consistently. Maybe a little weaker

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than some of the other combos out there, yeah.

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And now you're seeing that with teams kind of

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figuring out how to defend them well. But I'm

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sorry, like your middles are scoring that way.

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Pretty sure the players who came in were Kubik

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and Savard, and they were hitting less than 100.

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Yeah. It looked like a rough outing. They need

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to figure it out in Omaha, but it's too late.

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They're going to finish at the bottom of the

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league. They're going to have the worst first

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and second round matchups if they manage to win.

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So at this point, it just needs to be about building

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momentum for that final in two weeks. So if we

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look at the standings for Love, currently it's

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Atlanta. then Houston, Madison, Austin, Salt

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Lake, Omaha. Austin and Salt Lake are tied for

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fourth, so we will see how that plays out. That

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is now kind of the jockeying for position. Moving

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on to the PVF, Orlando got their payback against

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San Diego this week. They won 3 -1, but then

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followed up with a 3 -1 loss to Atlanta, which

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was a match they probably needed to win. We watched

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that one. Give me your thoughts. I don't know

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what happened to Brittany Abercrombie. She was

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useless. So we are going to talk about her in

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our game later on, and we'll dive in a little

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bit more to where she has been. But she has been

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on a slide as of late, and it is not trending

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in a good direction. I do not get it because

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she was so dominant for so much of the season,

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was hitting neutral. She had zero pace on her

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attacks. She was hitting negative for a lot of

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the match. And the crazy thing is they kept her

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in. They would not take her out. And I'm like,

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you need to make a change here. This is getting

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wild. They have to leave her in because they

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need her to score points. She's not scoring points.

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Well, I get that, but they need her to figure

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it out. Because if she doesn't figure it out,

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they're not going to win. Well, no kidding. They've

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been terrible in the last couple weeks. they

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rely on her and I don't know whether it's just

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been a long season. I don't care who you are.

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Like at some point, if you're not doing your

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job, like let's switch it up. Like I understand

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what you're saying. She is their go -to hitter.

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She, they need her to figure it out if they want

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to be successful, but she's not. So at least

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like, let's have some accountability here. Do

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you know what I mean? Yeah, no, I hear you. And

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whatever their coaching decision is, she was.

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Not good. Not good. And they didn't have anybody

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else step up in her place to make up for that

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lack of scoring. They are going to be in trouble

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if they don't figure it out. Well, they were

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missing Adora, too, who has been the other main

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point scorer for them for most of the season.

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She didn't even travel. She actually hasn't been

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playing that much as of late, so I'm wondering

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if she's fighting an injury. Their main outside

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recently has been Vanderweide and Schwan. And

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so I'm not sure if Adore has been injured or

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if she's fighting something or if she's got something

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else going on, but they've been rotating through

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those three. So that's, again, something they're

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going to need to figure out in terms of who's

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going to be able to score points for them. Atlanta

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looked pretty good, though. Yeah, they did well.

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Beeson is an enigma. To me, she sometimes plays

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well and is great and other times is just terrible.

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The good thing is they have a backup in Jones

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who can come in. I thought Jones did a good job.

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Yeah, so Jones came in, played well. And this

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to me is actually something that I think is key

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in PVF right now. If you have a good backup for

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when someone is struggling, there's been lots

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of... teams that have inconsistent players in

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one position or more than one. And if you have

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a legitimate backup that can come in and perform,

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those teams have been a little more consistent.

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So the Beeson -Jones pair is functioning well.

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And I like the strategy they're using. We're

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going to put Beeson in. We're going to see what

00:18:54.049 --> 00:18:57.930
Beeson we get. If she's good, we're solid. And

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Jones, in my opinion, is a little more consistent.

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And so you've kind of got a good one -two punch

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there. I think Jones's upside isn't quite as

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high as Beeson's, but her low side is not as

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low as Beeson's. Correct. And I thought Atlanta's

00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:16.700
outside combo in Timmer and Edmonds were consistent.

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I thought Corey Lewis was unstoppable. MVP. Wow.

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Wow. She was very, very good. Morgan Hentz was

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solid as always. Yeah. I'm curious to see. Pia

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Timmer did well. She was lined up against the

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setter, who... Somebody has to be lucky her.

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Well, agreed. And to Atlanta's credit, they had

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a strategy. They set her a ton of balls every

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time that matchup was there, and she took advantage

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of it. I'm curious, watching her play against

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a bigger block, if she'll score that efficiently.

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But you take what's given, and she did a really

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good job in that match. In other matches in PVF,

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Vegas has finally snapped a seven game losing

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streak. They beat Grand Rapids in four. This

00:20:03.900 --> 00:20:07.099
puts them outside of the playoff window. Now

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there's still a decent number of games to play.

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They have games in hand in the teams ahead of

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them. I'm curious what Vegas is going to look

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like moving forward for these last 10 games.

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So they started incredibly hot. Then they stunk

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for a very long time. Will they right the ship?

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I think they have 11 matches left, maybe 12.

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People have like 9 to 11 matches left. So that

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is going to be interesting because they're going

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to have to fight for that last playoff spot.

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We had Indy having a great week, beating Columbus

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in 5 and then going into Omaha and winning 3

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-0, which I've always liked Indy. You've been

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an Indy fan since the beginning. So I like to

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see that. We have some unfortunate injury news.

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Remember Mena? And Georgia Murphy are both out

00:20:58.099 --> 00:21:01.539
for the season. Georgia Murphy ripped every tendon

00:21:01.539 --> 00:21:04.900
in her knee. Ligament, but it's fine. Yeah, every

00:21:04.900 --> 00:21:08.039
ligament in her knee. And remember, Mena redid

00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:10.700
her ankle. Apparently, it's season ending. So

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we will see how Indy does without her. They looked

00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:16.740
all right in the last game. Yeah, they beat Omaha

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3 -0. They beat Omaha. So rallied around her,

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and we'll see if we can keep going from there.

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There is a pretty good gap between the top four

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and the bottom four. Omaha is still comfortably

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in first. Like we said, Vegas is in fifth with

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a couple games in hand. So they're kind of fighting

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for that spot. We're going to talk about this

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later on in the game as well. And Atlanta and

00:21:40.430 --> 00:21:43.470
Indy are currently tied for third, but Indy is

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up in points. So we'll see how that tie break

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shakes off. Again, still lots of time. We'll

00:21:48.769 --> 00:21:51.890
see how things shake out in the PVF. But it's

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actually kind of getting interesting as you watch

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the games of who's going to make it. I like it.

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And we do have to finish up our weekly happenings,

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highlights, etc. We do have some follow -ups

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from some recent questions that we answered in

00:22:03.869 --> 00:22:08.650
previous episodes. So we have our sources, ladies

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and gentlemen. And they give me the details.

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So it has been confirmed that mid -season trades

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are allowed in PVF. Apparently the deadline for

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this season is April 1st. There have been a few

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teams that have collected players. So San Diego

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has picked up Tara Caesar, who played at Georgia

00:22:29.549 --> 00:22:33.190
and Florida. Columbus has picked up Nutsara Tomcom,

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the setter for Thailand. She's been playing forever,

00:22:36.509 --> 00:22:40.269
right? Yeah, she's very good. Orlando has acquired

00:22:40.269 --> 00:22:43.930
Melanie Schaffmaster from Minnesota post her

00:22:43.930 --> 00:22:46.710
Greek season. And then Atlanta has picked up

00:22:46.710 --> 00:22:49.470
Micaiah White, who played at Texas. So nothing

00:22:49.470 --> 00:22:53.109
crazy, but some holes that were identified they're

00:22:53.109 --> 00:22:55.150
trying to fill with players who have finished

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or didn't make playoffs in their foreign seasons.

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But yes, trades are allowed. What I'm really

00:23:02.910 --> 00:23:06.369
curious to see, once the playoff race has kind

00:23:06.369 --> 00:23:09.849
of settled in, Do any teams trade for players

00:23:09.849 --> 00:23:12.329
to bolster their playoff hopes? Does Vegas make

00:23:12.329 --> 00:23:14.710
any moves? Somebody did that last year. They

00:23:14.710 --> 00:23:17.049
traded a player for an earlier draft pick. I

00:23:17.049 --> 00:23:20.190
think two first -round picks. I can't remember

00:23:20.190 --> 00:23:21.529
who the player was, but I think she got pregnant

00:23:21.529 --> 00:23:24.750
right after that too. So that was two first -round

00:23:24.750 --> 00:23:27.170
draft picks for somebody who might be ineligible

00:23:27.170 --> 00:23:30.019
for the next little while. Dang. For those of

00:23:30.019 --> 00:23:32.039
you who are asking what's up with Kami Miner,

00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:36.000
she has been reported slash told to me that she'll

00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:38.799
be playing for Vero Volley Milano next season.

00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:41.420
She is currently supposed to be the backup for

00:23:41.420 --> 00:23:44.900
Alessia Oro, but there is some drama brewing

00:23:44.900 --> 00:23:48.599
in that Fenerbahce wants to buy her out of her

00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:53.000
contract, this and that. There is some movement

00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:57.019
happening, so we will see. But yes, Cammy will

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be playing next season. And we talked about our

00:24:00.740 --> 00:24:04.559
thoughts on the relaxed doubles calls. Somebody

00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:07.000
was like, well, what do you think about the relaxed

00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:11.980
lift calls? Same thing. I think it's messy. I

00:24:11.980 --> 00:24:16.200
think it's sloppy. I don't like it. Again, I

00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:20.049
understand it for... younger players for development

00:24:20.049 --> 00:24:22.410
from a tv standpoint but we're professionals

00:24:22.410 --> 00:24:24.890
at this point again i agree that it should be

00:24:24.890 --> 00:24:27.349
part of the skill development it's always that

00:24:27.349 --> 00:24:29.630
fine line between entertainment where you don't

00:24:29.630 --> 00:24:32.390
want the rallies to end on that play and keeping

00:24:32.390 --> 00:24:35.069
it going and knowing what the skills are i don't

00:24:35.069 --> 00:24:38.130
mind it being a little lax but i think it's gone

00:24:38.130 --> 00:24:42.210
too far we really extended our weekly highlights

00:24:42.210 --> 00:24:45.250
today. So hopefully you stuck with us. There

00:24:45.250 --> 00:24:48.170
was a lot going on. Lots of news in addition

00:24:48.170 --> 00:24:51.549
to the results. Yeah, it was a big week. Our

00:24:51.549 --> 00:24:55.089
first feature match of the week is Love Madison

00:24:55.089 --> 00:25:02.490
versus Salt Lake. It was interesting and I think

00:25:02.490 --> 00:25:05.009
Salt Lake gave it away. I don't disagree with

00:25:05.009 --> 00:25:09.559
you. My initial takeaway watching the match was

00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:13.920
that it was a match of runs. Massive. Massive

00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:18.640
runs. So I've done some of the kind of going

00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:21.299
through the sets and picking up scores just because

00:25:21.299 --> 00:25:23.099
I thought it was interesting. So we'll talk about

00:25:23.099 --> 00:25:25.700
that as we get into it. Any other overarching

00:25:25.700 --> 00:25:29.019
thoughts? I thought that the only player Lauren

00:25:29.019 --> 00:25:31.480
Carlini could connect with in this match was

00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:36.180
Annie Schumacher. It was a struggle seeing the

00:25:36.180 --> 00:25:39.160
left sides try to hit. The middles were not going.

00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:44.859
So Annie Schumacher was given so many balls.

00:25:45.019 --> 00:25:48.079
And granted, she did a great job. She basically

00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.539
carried the team offensively. But when you're

00:25:52.539 --> 00:25:56.680
competing one player scoring against a whole

00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:00.819
team, Salt Lake, you need to figure it out. Well,

00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.910
I did think that Carlini, figured it out a little

00:26:03.910 --> 00:26:06.390
bit towards the end of the match, and that was

00:26:06.390 --> 00:26:08.529
the difference. You watched the left sides tip

00:26:08.529 --> 00:26:11.150
a whole ton of balls. They physically could not

00:26:11.150 --> 00:26:14.730
hit the ball. It was crazy. They were so flat

00:26:14.730 --> 00:26:18.589
and fast that they couldn't get there. I didn't

00:26:18.589 --> 00:26:21.349
think the setting was much better, but I thought

00:26:21.349 --> 00:26:23.869
that she put a little more shape on it for the

00:26:23.869 --> 00:26:25.849
outsides in the fourth and fifth set, and you

00:26:25.849 --> 00:26:28.809
started to see them swing a little more. So at

00:26:28.809 --> 00:26:30.990
least there was an adjustment there. This blows

00:26:30.990 --> 00:26:34.869
my mind. Salt Lake has very good middles. Haley

00:26:34.869 --> 00:26:38.210
Washington needs to be set more than anybody

00:26:38.210 --> 00:26:40.869
else on that team. She's like unstoppable, you

00:26:40.869 --> 00:26:44.970
guys. She hit 619 and had 15 points. In front

00:26:44.970 --> 00:26:48.170
of the setter, behind the setter, she is scoring

00:26:48.170 --> 00:26:50.990
points. So give her the ball. And the other thing

00:26:50.990 --> 00:26:52.930
that confuses me, and I've talked about this

00:26:52.930 --> 00:26:57.670
before, Gray needs to play. She needs to start.

00:26:57.769 --> 00:27:00.369
She needs to play. They finally brought her in.

00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:04.920
They set her 10 times. She had nine points and

00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:09.579
hit 600. You have the potential to run the best

00:27:09.579 --> 00:27:13.220
two -middle combo maybe in the league there,

00:27:13.380 --> 00:27:18.279
and Poulter is very good at connecting with the

00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.940
middles. Those two should be the staple of your

00:27:20.940 --> 00:27:22.700
offense, and it will make everything better.

00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.140
I don't understand why that's not happening.

00:27:25.380 --> 00:27:28.839
Me neither. And I agree with you about Gray over

00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:31.319
Tori Dixon. We have been saying this since the

00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:34.799
season started. She is more physical. She jumps

00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:37.680
better. She moves laterally better. She hits

00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:40.539
better. She gets over the, like, yes, she's less

00:27:40.539 --> 00:27:45.079
experienced, but I will take that physicality

00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:49.059
any day. But you, this is the thing that confuses

00:27:49.059 --> 00:27:51.400
me. So Haley Washington was out at the beginning.

00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:56.409
So fine, put Tori Dixon in. And Tori Dixon. She's

00:27:56.409 --> 00:27:59.069
serviceable. No, it's not like she's like a black

00:27:59.069 --> 00:28:01.809
hole out there. She's not. She doesn't make a

00:28:01.809 --> 00:28:05.750
ton of errors. Like, she's fine. But Gray, she

00:28:05.750 --> 00:28:08.329
started the season. How did you not see, hey,

00:28:08.410 --> 00:28:11.009
when we get to the end of the season, our way

00:28:11.009 --> 00:28:13.289
to winning is to have this one -two middle combo.

00:28:13.369 --> 00:28:16.990
It was a short -sighted decision to me. And yeah,

00:28:17.750 --> 00:28:19.809
Serena Gray has an untraditional arm swing for

00:28:19.809 --> 00:28:22.750
a middle. It's like... A little big. But when

00:28:22.750 --> 00:28:25.529
she's jumping that high and is able to hit those

00:28:25.529 --> 00:28:28.069
kind of angles. Who cares? Does it matter? Doesn't

00:28:28.069 --> 00:28:31.910
matter. I don't think so. So that to me is something

00:28:31.910 --> 00:28:35.210
that just should have happened. Needed to happen.

00:28:35.289 --> 00:28:37.710
We'll see what happens moving forward. But I'm

00:28:37.710 --> 00:28:39.910
a fan of her. I think she should be playing.

00:28:40.029 --> 00:28:42.589
Their outside struggled. Dude, Dani Drews was

00:28:42.589 --> 00:28:45.470
starting again. And every time I watch her, I'm

00:28:45.470 --> 00:28:47.410
like, why is she starting? Like she doesn't.

00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:50.259
do anything for them she makes a ton of errors

00:28:50.259 --> 00:28:53.240
it's so awkward as a lefty on the left side with

00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:56.359
the speed of ball that Poulter likes to run she

00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:58.880
has been a liability in every single match I

00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:02.099
have watched Salt Lake play she does better on

00:29:02.099 --> 00:29:04.660
the right well she came in they finally took

00:29:04.660 --> 00:29:07.019
her out and they she was coming in for the double

00:29:07.019 --> 00:29:11.140
sub and she was doing so much better so much

00:29:11.140 --> 00:29:16.339
better yeah it seems I think Salt Lake's biggest

00:29:16.339 --> 00:29:20.220
issue is personnel decisions. When I watch them

00:29:20.220 --> 00:29:23.420
play, the lineups they put on the floor just

00:29:23.420 --> 00:29:25.240
don't compute for me. Do not make sense to me.

00:29:25.299 --> 00:29:26.819
And you've got the best libero in the league

00:29:26.819 --> 00:29:28.920
too. A hundred percent. I'm sorry. Like this

00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:33.359
woman is unbelievable. She digs everything. She,

00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.960
her passing is solid. She sets what, like you

00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.240
have an outstanding setter. You've got a great

00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:42.359
libero. You've got an incredible, potentially

00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:47.380
incredible middle duo. Ronnie Jones Perry, people

00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:49.519
have been saying that they think she's been so

00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.380
mid all season in love. I disagree. I think that

00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:55.140
she has been solid for Salt Lake for the majority

00:29:55.140 --> 00:29:57.799
of the season. Skylar Fields was out with an

00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.420
injury this match, but Casanova didn't do poorly.

00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.019
I think she did pretty well. So you're missing

00:30:03.019 --> 00:30:05.380
one of the top scores in the league and Skylar

00:30:05.380 --> 00:30:09.400
Fields for that match. But like you have solid

00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:12.670
athletes at virtually every position. I don't

00:30:12.670 --> 00:30:14.670
understand. Well, not to mention your strength

00:30:14.670 --> 00:30:16.609
in the middle and you talk about your passing.

00:30:16.750 --> 00:30:19.470
Ronnie Jones -Perry is a good passer. Your libero

00:30:19.470 --> 00:30:22.190
is a great passer. You're in system enough to

00:30:22.190 --> 00:30:24.150
utilize that. You should be able to make life

00:30:24.150 --> 00:30:26.690
pretty easy for your outside hitters at that

00:30:26.690 --> 00:30:28.730
point. And I think the thing, going back to it

00:30:28.730 --> 00:30:31.529
about Ronnie Jones -Perry, is sometimes she doesn't

00:30:31.529 --> 00:30:35.549
pass the eye test. If you watch her play, it

00:30:35.549 --> 00:30:38.529
can seem like... She's not contributing, or she's

00:30:38.529 --> 00:30:41.150
not attacking well. But then you go back and

00:30:41.150 --> 00:30:44.329
look at the stats, and she's put up solid numbers.

00:30:44.430 --> 00:30:47.910
In this match, she had 29 points. She was set

00:30:47.910 --> 00:30:53.089
55 times, and she hit 273. If you're getting

00:30:53.089 --> 00:30:56.609
set that many times in a match, hitting 273 is

00:30:56.609 --> 00:30:59.670
pretty solid. Yeah, I totally agree. And she's

00:30:59.670 --> 00:31:02.950
the outside hitter. The P1. Yeah, sorry, she's

00:31:02.950 --> 00:31:06.329
the out -of -system option in there. which you

00:31:06.329 --> 00:31:08.890
normally do at the right side. So to have that

00:31:08.890 --> 00:31:12.069
load as a passing left side as well is even heavier.

00:31:12.230 --> 00:31:14.769
So I understand people might think that watching

00:31:14.769 --> 00:31:16.349
her, but if you look at the numbers, she's been

00:31:16.349 --> 00:31:19.750
good. Okay, before we get into looking at Madison,

00:31:19.950 --> 00:31:21.869
I want to go over some of the scores that happened

00:31:21.869 --> 00:31:23.630
or some of the runs that happened in this match.

00:31:23.769 --> 00:31:26.650
So we'll start set one. Pretty close to start.

00:31:27.690 --> 00:31:31.890
Madison is up 17 -14 in the first. I blinked,

00:31:31.890 --> 00:31:37.269
and then it was 17 -20. Yeah. For Salt Lake.

00:31:37.549 --> 00:31:41.809
So we had two Franklin hitting errors, a Chassé

00:31:41.809 --> 00:31:44.650
hitting error, Drew's got blocked, and then two

00:31:44.650 --> 00:31:48.210
passing errors by Chassé. You give up six points

00:31:48.210 --> 00:31:54.269
in a row, and then the game ended at 20 -25 for

00:31:54.269 --> 00:31:59.329
Salt Lake. So you went from being up 17 -14 to

00:31:59.329 --> 00:32:03.690
losing 25 -20. Just a solid 11 -3 run. No biggie.

00:32:04.940 --> 00:32:07.920
That should not happen. No. You're talking about

00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.579
three hitting errors from the left sides. They

00:32:10.579 --> 00:32:15.180
couldn't hit the ball. I'm not making excuses

00:32:15.180 --> 00:32:17.920
for them, but it's highlighting the connection

00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:21.720
issues that we were seeing. Correct. But regardless,

00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.640
as a team, you can't do that. No. So then they

00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:27.920
come out in the second set, and we get off to

00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:31.920
a 15 -4 start. The other way, yes. For Madison.

00:32:32.140 --> 00:32:35.859
I was like, what? And that game ends 25 -15.

00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:40.420
Yeah. Like, what is happening in those situations?

00:32:40.539 --> 00:32:44.319
It's crazy to me. And again, we start in the

00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.440
third set, and pretty close, teams battling.

00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.259
It's 14 -15 for Madison. Then they give up three,

00:32:52.460 --> 00:32:59.259
so it's 14 -18. And then they lose 17 -25. And

00:32:59.259 --> 00:33:02.920
this is... I'm just laughing because it's just,

00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:08.279
like, ridiculous. And at one point they did,

00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:11.400
you know, one of those, let's interview the player

00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:13.099
during a timeout, you know what I mean? But,

00:33:13.099 --> 00:33:15.019
like, not live. It was, like, prerecorded at

00:33:15.019 --> 00:33:17.220
their practice. I believe it was Roddy Jones'

00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:18.380
parents. She's like, you know what? Something

00:33:18.380 --> 00:33:20.400
that I think is so great about this league is

00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.720
that, like, there are so many runs. I think it's,

00:33:24.740 --> 00:33:29.420
like, so crazy. Anybody could win at any time.

00:33:30.339 --> 00:33:32.319
You're never out of it. There's always runs.

00:33:32.500 --> 00:33:34.019
And I'm sitting here being like, is that a good

00:33:34.019 --> 00:33:36.619
thing or a bad thing? Because you're professional

00:33:36.619 --> 00:33:39.619
athletes. You need to get it together. That's

00:33:39.619 --> 00:33:43.299
a red flag to me. And I know we talk about this,

00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.240
and I know people don't like hearing about it,

00:33:45.299 --> 00:33:50.940
but to me, those runs is one of the things that

00:33:50.940 --> 00:33:53.910
denotes top leagues from mid -tier leagues. And

00:33:53.910 --> 00:33:56.309
I mean, they happen. They do happen. But I think

00:33:56.309 --> 00:33:59.670
the frequency and consistency that we see them

00:33:59.670 --> 00:34:02.430
happen in love is just like my mind's exploding.

00:34:02.549 --> 00:34:05.390
But let's finish the game here. Okay, sorry.

00:34:05.930 --> 00:34:08.690
I remember that interview and I just had to say

00:34:08.690 --> 00:34:10.989
it because I was watching it. Like, that's not

00:34:10.989 --> 00:34:14.409
a good thing. Well, so if we look at set four,

00:34:14.650 --> 00:34:18.750
Madison starts down five to ten. Okay. Yeah.

00:34:19.489 --> 00:34:22.750
They close the gap. to 12 -14. So they're within

00:34:22.750 --> 00:34:24.530
two points in the middle of the set, which is

00:34:24.530 --> 00:34:29.670
fine. They end up being down 21 -24 at the end

00:34:29.670 --> 00:34:32.389
of that set. And they end up winning that one.

00:34:32.690 --> 00:34:37.010
I think like 32 -30 or something. It was something

00:34:37.010 --> 00:34:40.170
high. It was like, yeah, 29 -27, something like

00:34:40.170 --> 00:34:42.489
that. And that was on the back of a Schumacher

00:34:42.489 --> 00:34:45.190
serving run. Like, good for her to go back. She

00:34:45.190 --> 00:34:47.389
put pace on the serve. Like, they earned those

00:34:47.389 --> 00:34:49.050
points. But it's so, like, what are you doing?

00:34:49.449 --> 00:34:53.250
It's 24 -21. You literally had three chances

00:34:53.250 --> 00:34:57.429
to win this match, like three side -out opportunities.

00:34:58.250 --> 00:35:02.090
And so you blow that set as Salt Lake, and then

00:35:02.090 --> 00:35:05.469
you come out in the fifth, and it's 4 -4. Great,

00:35:05.650 --> 00:35:07.469
we're having a good fifth set. It's entertaining.

00:35:07.789 --> 00:35:10.829
And again, I blinked, and it's 11 -4 for Madison.

00:35:11.650 --> 00:35:15.590
Absolutely crazy. And I will say, from an entertainment

00:35:15.590 --> 00:35:18.900
standpoint, You literally had no idea what was

00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:24.480
going to happen. None. And it was a wild match

00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.119
to watch. I thought Salt Lake was the better

00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:29.480
team, to be honest. I thought they should have

00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.519
won that match. I'm like, you can hear the frustration

00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:35.400
in my voice. I'm just like, I do not understand

00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:39.539
what is going on. Because it makes no sense to

00:35:39.539 --> 00:35:44.639
me. And I think from a Madison standpoint. I

00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.800
don't really know what to make of them right

00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.199
now. I thought Carlini struggled in that game.

00:35:49.260 --> 00:35:53.320
Now, she's very good all around. Good serve,

00:35:53.579 --> 00:35:56.219
good defensively, puts up a good block. She digs

00:35:56.219 --> 00:35:59.599
a ton of balls. She sets Annie Drews well, which

00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:04.380
is important for that team. But I saw her overset

00:36:04.380 --> 00:36:08.050
Hall. No, undersell. Hall was like jumping and

00:36:08.050 --> 00:36:10.809
hitting from like her chest. But that was after

00:36:10.809 --> 00:36:12.650
she had two balls that kind of went over top

00:36:12.650 --> 00:36:15.070
of her. So Hall connected well at the beginning.

00:36:15.150 --> 00:36:16.449
I was like, okay, good. They're setting her.

00:36:16.510 --> 00:36:19.210
This is what they need to do. And then that connection

00:36:19.210 --> 00:36:21.570
disappeared. And then the left sides had to tip

00:36:21.570 --> 00:36:24.789
a ton of balls. They cycled through. Yaniska

00:36:24.789 --> 00:36:27.610
was in. Franklin was in. Chassé was in. It was

00:36:27.610 --> 00:36:29.570
a revolving door of those three the whole match.

00:36:29.829 --> 00:36:32.920
And I... I didn't think that was entirely fair

00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:34.480
because I didn't think the left side's got a

00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.400
chance to be put in a position to be successful.

00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:41.239
There was no rhythm there. And they'll have to

00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.559
figure that piece out because that's not going

00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:46.760
to be good enough to win against the top two

00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:49.019
teams if that's their goal. The game was entertaining.

00:36:49.619 --> 00:36:52.840
There were good plays. The sheer unpredictability

00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:56.559
of it. 100%. If you're not looking at necessarily

00:36:56.559 --> 00:37:02.550
what should happen or... the swings and this

00:37:02.550 --> 00:37:05.409
is the interesting part for me like if you're

00:37:05.409 --> 00:37:08.449
a Nebraska fan and Nebraska plays like this you're

00:37:08.449 --> 00:37:11.829
up in arms about the inconsistency about what

00:37:11.829 --> 00:37:13.989
you're doing like you have to hold your professionals

00:37:13.989 --> 00:37:17.090
to the same standard and or even a higher standard

00:37:17.090 --> 00:37:19.670
they're more experienced they're getting paid

00:37:19.670 --> 00:37:22.510
I understand college people are getting paid

00:37:22.510 --> 00:37:25.190
to play now too but you know what I mean yeah

00:37:25.190 --> 00:37:29.320
this this to me And kind of in stark contrast

00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:32.420
to having watched the Women's Champions League

00:37:32.420 --> 00:37:36.719
quarterfinals like a couple weeks before, there

00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.619
were some very good rallies, some very high -level

00:37:39.619 --> 00:37:44.400
play, but it was intermittent. And the runs were

00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:48.440
wildly entertaining and somewhat perplexing.

00:37:48.460 --> 00:37:51.460
But that's the thing. If you are a casual volleyball

00:37:51.460 --> 00:37:54.500
watcher, you probably will look at that and be

00:37:54.500 --> 00:37:58.289
like, this is amazing. wow, look at this comeback.

00:37:58.409 --> 00:38:00.690
Look at this like huge lead, blah, blah, blah.

00:38:00.809 --> 00:38:03.710
But like for me personally, like watching it

00:38:03.710 --> 00:38:09.030
with a critical eye and like I struggle to watch

00:38:09.030 --> 00:38:13.110
that because I'm just like seeing these inconsistencies

00:38:13.110 --> 00:38:17.170
and these decision -making issues and things

00:38:17.170 --> 00:38:19.809
like that that just like make me scratch my head.

00:38:19.949 --> 00:38:22.579
From a... High -level volleyball perspective,

00:38:22.980 --> 00:38:25.539
a little head -scratching, but again, an entertaining

00:38:25.539 --> 00:38:28.599
match to just sit and watch. All right, our last

00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.860
feature match for this episode is going to be

00:38:31.860 --> 00:38:36.619
PVF Omaha versus Indy. Hit me with your initial

00:38:36.619 --> 00:38:41.019
thoughts. I thought Indy, having lost their go

00:38:41.019 --> 00:38:44.300
-to player, their quote -unquote franchise player,

00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:49.559
I wasn't sure what to expect. But I think the

00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.079
way that they rallied as a team and the way I

00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:57.039
saw different athletes step up individually was

00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.539
really cool. I thought, you know, Teeler kind

00:39:00.539 --> 00:39:03.099
of put the team on her back. She played very

00:39:03.099 --> 00:39:07.469
well. She was outstanding. Even though there

00:39:07.469 --> 00:39:10.289
were some passing and defensive hiccups along

00:39:10.289 --> 00:39:14.210
the way, I think their defensive system was solid.

00:39:14.469 --> 00:39:16.690
We haven't seen Omaha play for a little bit,

00:39:16.750 --> 00:39:21.750
but I was underwhelmed on the Omaha side. I felt

00:39:21.750 --> 00:39:24.909
like the players had trouble getting going. Indy

00:39:24.909 --> 00:39:29.269
looked dominant to me. Well, and let's highlight

00:39:29.269 --> 00:39:35.070
Teeler here. She was... Set 33 times. She had

00:39:35.070 --> 00:39:41.969
19 kills and hit 515 on the match. That's really

00:39:41.969 --> 00:39:46.909
good. She was unconscious and unstoppable. Really

00:39:46.909 --> 00:39:50.030
good. And I have been critical of her this season.

00:39:50.610 --> 00:39:55.590
But she stepped up and Omaha did not have an

00:39:55.590 --> 00:39:59.269
answer. No. In particular, when they're running

00:39:59.269 --> 00:40:03.440
the combo play, like you guys. every single time

00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:06.320
Indy runs a combo play, they set Teeler. Like,

00:40:06.340 --> 00:40:08.199
let's just be ready for that. Because I was getting

00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:11.280
so frustrated. Omaha was not ready for that.

00:40:11.300 --> 00:40:13.900
They were not ready for that. Okay. I thought

00:40:13.900 --> 00:40:15.820
the other thing, well, this was interesting.

00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:21.460
So we've talked about Indy's middles. And I thought

00:40:21.460 --> 00:40:24.860
they started running Crawford often at the beginning

00:40:24.860 --> 00:40:28.119
of the match. And she was actually scoring. But

00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.519
then that part kind of went away. She struggled

00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.340
later in the match. They stopped setting her.

00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:36.800
That connection disappeared. She looked like

00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:40.739
Crawford from earlier in the season. I like that

00:40:40.739 --> 00:40:42.980
they're trying to work on that. If they can figure

00:40:42.980 --> 00:40:45.139
that part out, if they have a consistent threat

00:40:45.139 --> 00:40:47.480
in the middle, because Martin had a good game,

00:40:47.579 --> 00:40:50.679
and if Crawford can score too, I really like

00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.300
what Indy's doing. I thought Crawford's offense

00:40:53.300 --> 00:40:56.739
earlier in the match was the best I've ever seen

00:40:56.739 --> 00:40:59.420
her swing. Yeah, but it reverted at the end.

00:41:00.030 --> 00:41:01.889
which I think if you're making improvements,

00:41:02.050 --> 00:41:05.269
that's to be expected. But the last time we spoke

00:41:05.269 --> 00:41:08.510
about Indy, we were saying if they want to be

00:41:08.510 --> 00:41:11.090
at the top, they need to run their middles and

00:41:11.090 --> 00:41:13.369
they need to get Crawford going because she's

00:41:13.369 --> 00:41:15.969
a non -factor. She was putting way more pace

00:41:15.969 --> 00:41:18.010
on the ball. She was staying behind the ball.

00:41:19.449 --> 00:41:23.769
Work had been done, and she looked way better,

00:41:23.929 --> 00:41:26.650
albeit for half the match. Yeah, both her and

00:41:26.650 --> 00:41:29.670
Martin got 14 sets each. So it was a conscious

00:41:29.670 --> 00:41:31.710
effort, and they need to keep going with that.

00:41:31.809 --> 00:41:34.750
But it was noticeable and beneficial, I thought.

00:41:35.210 --> 00:41:38.289
And when I'm speaking about Indy's block defensive

00:41:38.289 --> 00:41:41.429
strategy, I think their middles are incredible

00:41:41.429 --> 00:41:44.469
blockers. I think their right side tandem in

00:41:44.469 --> 00:41:46.829
Sidney, Hilly, and Teeler were blocking very

00:41:46.829 --> 00:41:51.010
well. I was pulling my hair out watching their

00:41:51.010 --> 00:41:55.280
left sides block. You guys. Emily Londot does

00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:58.579
not hit angle. Okay. She hits line and that's

00:41:58.579 --> 00:42:01.760
about it. And the, they were leaving her line

00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:06.760
on every single ball. And let me tell you, it

00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.199
wasn't getting dug. So it's not like you're leaving

00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:11.280
a channel for your libero to make digs, like

00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:15.380
shut down the line. I was getting so frustrated.

00:42:16.260 --> 00:42:19.380
I couldn't handle it. Player issue or coaching

00:42:19.380 --> 00:42:22.880
issue. What's your instinct? My assumption is

00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.989
that. They planned to leave her the line so Elena

00:42:25.989 --> 00:42:28.650
Scott could dig it. But after it happens a few

00:42:28.650 --> 00:42:30.750
times and you're not picking that up, you need

00:42:30.750 --> 00:42:33.110
to change the plan and be like, hey, let's completely

00:42:33.110 --> 00:42:36.030
shut down the line here and force her to go in

00:42:36.030 --> 00:42:38.150
a direction she doesn't want to. You can't keep

00:42:38.150 --> 00:42:41.449
doing the same thing and expect a different result.

00:42:41.590 --> 00:42:43.969
Like, you need to make adjustments. Well, and

00:42:43.969 --> 00:42:46.989
it's interesting because Londot's line swing

00:42:46.989 --> 00:42:51.230
is not a true line swing. It's about five feet.

00:42:51.989 --> 00:42:54.710
inside the court from the sideline and so when

00:42:54.710 --> 00:42:57.449
you leave her that space she's actually got quite

00:42:57.449 --> 00:43:00.190
a window to hit and they as a right -handed right

00:43:00.190 --> 00:43:03.010
side yeah yeah they needed to it was too much

00:43:03.010 --> 00:43:05.269
area for scott to pick up and i know she's very

00:43:05.269 --> 00:43:07.429
good but there's just it's too much space but

00:43:07.429 --> 00:43:11.010
the kicker It's like Omaha was not setting their

00:43:11.010 --> 00:43:13.750
middle. Agreed. So like, why are you pinched

00:43:13.750 --> 00:43:17.329
in so far as a left side to help the middle that

00:43:17.329 --> 00:43:19.730
Omaha does not set? And they didn't run very

00:43:19.730 --> 00:43:22.489
many pipe balls. Exactly. It's like, get outside

00:43:22.489 --> 00:43:24.869
to make sure you can shut down the line. Like,

00:43:24.889 --> 00:43:27.789
what are you looking for here? I don't know.

00:43:27.849 --> 00:43:30.190
It just like, it didn't make a lot of sense to

00:43:30.190 --> 00:43:32.909
me. Granted, Indy 130. So what the heck am I

00:43:32.909 --> 00:43:37.429
even talking about here? Well. Omaha didn't play

00:43:37.429 --> 00:43:40.050
particularly well. If they're going point for

00:43:40.050 --> 00:43:42.349
point with you, those are the kind of adjustments

00:43:42.349 --> 00:43:46.150
that makes the difference between beating really

00:43:46.150 --> 00:43:47.989
good teams and beating teams when they're not

00:43:47.989 --> 00:43:51.230
playing their best. Because Allie Batenhorst

00:43:51.230 --> 00:43:55.210
struggled in that match. She got pulled in the

00:43:55.210 --> 00:43:58.550
first set or second set? I think second set.

00:43:58.610 --> 00:44:01.849
Early, regardless. I mean, she got 17 sets. She

00:44:01.849 --> 00:44:05.840
had three kills. She was blocked twice. Two hitting

00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:11.440
errors for hitting negative 059. Yeah. And, I

00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:14.980
mean, you just can't. Those can't be your numbers

00:44:14.980 --> 00:44:17.619
for your starting outside. Yeah, that's rough.

00:44:17.860 --> 00:44:20.420
And they weren't setting their middles. Nunaviller

00:44:20.420 --> 00:44:22.719
started, I think in the first two sets, she was

00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.380
hitting like 500 or something. And then they

00:44:25.380 --> 00:44:29.659
were clamping down on her in the third set. And

00:44:29.659 --> 00:44:32.320
she struggled a little bit more. Yeah, they figured

00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:36.699
her out. She got 38 sets. Hit 184, 13 kills,

00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.619
was blocked four times. And again. So you're

00:44:39.619 --> 00:44:43.780
going from 400 or hitting 500 after like half

00:44:43.780 --> 00:44:46.639
the match, it drops to one, whatever, you just

00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:51.219
said 148 or something, 84. And that's what happens

00:44:51.219 --> 00:44:53.980
when you don't run your middle and you know where

00:44:53.980 --> 00:44:56.460
the ball is going. Like if we talk about distribution.

00:44:57.369 --> 00:44:59.909
And, I mean, I guess Emily Londot got a bunch

00:44:59.909 --> 00:45:03.190
of sets as well. You had Nunaviller got 38 sets.

00:45:03.469 --> 00:45:06.809
Londot got 28. And then Reagan Cooper was the

00:45:06.809 --> 00:45:10.269
next one at 16, if you don't consider Batenhorst

00:45:10.269 --> 00:45:11.829
at 17. She's the one who came in for Batenhorst.

00:45:11.969 --> 00:45:15.309
Yeah, so, like, what are we talking about? Middle

00:45:15.309 --> 00:45:20.570
-wise, Kayla Caffey got 11 sets, maybe. And I'm

00:45:20.570 --> 00:45:22.710
shocked because I do not remember her hitting

00:45:22.710 --> 00:45:25.409
that many balls. Like, watching the match, I

00:45:25.409 --> 00:45:27.599
was like... Why aren't they setting the medal?

00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:32.059
Now, talk to me about their setter. Valentin

00:45:32.059 --> 00:45:34.559
Anderson? Yeah. How do you think she did? She

00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.440
was fine. Watching the game, I didn't necessarily

00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:39.960
see her as a huge liability. I feel like you

00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:43.059
have the thought. I was just curious of the decision

00:45:43.059 --> 00:45:45.239
-making of the offense she run. Do you think

00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.820
they passed well enough to run more middle? Well,

00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:49.300
I understand that the middles that they have

00:45:49.300 --> 00:45:52.639
are traditionally blocking middles. They've never

00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:56.260
been huge offensive middles, but that doesn't

00:45:56.260 --> 00:46:00.559
matter. You can't rely on one or two hitters.

00:46:01.309 --> 00:46:03.849
to get the job done like you need to feed them

00:46:03.849 --> 00:46:06.030
a little more consistently yeah i agree they

00:46:06.030 --> 00:46:08.070
need to they need to figure out how to own the

00:46:08.070 --> 00:46:10.210
middle of the court a little bit i mean if i

00:46:10.210 --> 00:46:13.630
didn't have the context of the current standings

00:46:13.630 --> 00:46:17.690
if omaha wasn't in first place i would say indy

00:46:17.690 --> 00:46:21.449
is the better team from a from a one match standpoint

00:46:21.449 --> 00:46:23.170
i know that doesn't count i know it doesn't really

00:46:23.170 --> 00:46:25.769
mean much but you always measure yourself against

00:46:25.769 --> 00:46:29.949
the top team and i i really liked what indy's

00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.039
doing I can see what they're working on I can

00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:37.800
see where they want to head and I mean obviously

00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.460
Omaha has good outsides and they put up better

00:46:40.460 --> 00:46:44.960
numbers but from a sustainable offensive standpoint

00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:49.460
again snapshot one game it is what it is it's

00:46:49.460 --> 00:46:51.400
just hey we're going to rely on these players

00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:54.380
we'll see what happens with that well and it'll

00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:58.039
be interesting to see too With these lineup changes

00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:02.599
and role changes on the indie side. As teams

00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:06.539
get video and have an understanding of what their

00:47:06.539 --> 00:47:09.480
game plan kind of looks like now. Without member

00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:11.840
mana in the lineup. Like is that going to be

00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:13.980
sustainable? Are they going to be able to maintain

00:47:13.980 --> 00:47:18.079
that? Because Carly Scott, she's come in now

00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:21.880
and then as a sub. But she hasn't really consistently

00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:27.260
been playing full matches. She definitely held

00:47:27.260 --> 00:47:32.260
her own. She had 19 attacks, 8 kills, hit 316.

00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.320
Yeah, so she did solid. Is Teeler going to be

00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.300
able to maintain that level of production? Is

00:47:37.300 --> 00:47:39.880
Scott going to be able to stay consistent like

00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.539
that? Are they going to be able to get CeCe Crawford

00:47:42.539 --> 00:47:44.940
going? There's a lot of variables at play here,

00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.920
but for that particular match, I think Indy looked

00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.940
really good. I'm curious on the Omaha personnel

00:47:50.940 --> 00:47:54.559
side. In the middle, you have Aloeo and Anabonjo.

00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:57.900
In the middle, who didn't play. But have they

00:47:57.900 --> 00:48:00.500
played at all, all season? Like, have they gotten

00:48:00.500 --> 00:48:03.639
in at all? I think Anabonjo has played a little

00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:07.239
bit. Really? I'm not 100 % sure. But Phoebe is

00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:09.840
not an attacking middle either. Like, Minnesota

00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:14.559
did not use her. Anabonjo can score. I'm looking

00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.500
at the personnel they have and saying, okay,

00:48:17.500 --> 00:48:20.559
how... If I'm that team currently, and again,

00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.179
based off this match, we need to be more of a

00:48:23.179 --> 00:48:25.039
threat in the middle. And again, we're basing

00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:26.659
it off of this match. Like maybe they set their

00:48:26.659 --> 00:48:29.659
middle all the time and they just weren't. But

00:48:29.659 --> 00:48:32.280
I don't know. But this, again, this is against

00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:35.579
a playoff team. Indy's in the top four. Like

00:48:35.579 --> 00:48:37.539
you would think that this is a match that you're

00:48:37.539 --> 00:48:39.539
circling and saying, hey, you know, we want to

00:48:39.539 --> 00:48:41.880
play. It's potentially a first round matchup

00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:43.320
in the playoffs. Well, especially playing at

00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:47.030
home, you get blanked. Yeah, we'll see. I enjoyed

00:48:47.030 --> 00:48:49.570
watching Indy. I thought they played well. It

00:48:49.570 --> 00:48:52.150
was interesting to see them against the top team.

00:48:52.369 --> 00:48:57.849
You can feel the urgency coming in PBF, I think,

00:48:57.929 --> 00:49:00.610
watching those teams and watching those matches.

00:49:00.769 --> 00:49:02.829
And Omaha's in a great place. They have less

00:49:02.829 --> 00:49:05.929
urgency than anybody else. But it'll be interesting

00:49:05.929 --> 00:49:08.329
to see what happens down the stretch here with

00:49:08.329 --> 00:49:10.989
those top four or five teams. All right, for

00:49:10.989 --> 00:49:13.889
our game this week, we're going to play... Paven's

00:49:13.889 --> 00:49:16.690
percentages. So I am going to give you a couple

00:49:16.690 --> 00:49:19.570
scenarios and you're going to tell me what percentage

00:49:19.570 --> 00:49:22.909
you give it to be true. Okay. Okay. So we're

00:49:22.909 --> 00:49:23.969
going to, we're going to stick and we're going

00:49:23.969 --> 00:49:26.730
to start with the PVF. We have a top four in

00:49:26.730 --> 00:49:30.210
the PVF currently of Omaha, Orlando, Atlanta,

00:49:30.530 --> 00:49:35.750
and Indy. Okay. Now Omaha's 12 and five, Orlando's

00:49:35.750 --> 00:49:38.670
12 and seven, Atlanta's 11 and eight, Indy is

00:49:38.670 --> 00:49:42.179
11 and eight. Vegas is the next team at eight

00:49:42.179 --> 00:49:45.719
and nine. They have 11 games left to play and

00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:48.719
Orlando, Atlanta, and Indy all have nine. What

00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.840
is the percentage that the playoffs are going

00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:56.019
to be some combination of Omaha, Orlando, Atlanta,

00:49:56.260 --> 00:50:01.219
and Indy? 80%. Oh, that's high. Vegas has been

00:50:01.219 --> 00:50:04.719
on like a downslide and to make up that point

00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:08.239
differential or that like those matches that

00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:10.039
they're behind. I think it's going to be tough

00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:11.920
because, yeah, you can win like three matches,

00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:13.260
but the other teams are probably going to win

00:50:13.260 --> 00:50:16.119
matches too. I feel like the top four is going

00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:20.219
to stick. 80%, sure. Okay, I like that. I agree

00:50:20.219 --> 00:50:22.300
with your assessment. I think it's probably going

00:50:22.300 --> 00:50:24.659
to be a high number. I probably would have gone

00:50:24.659 --> 00:50:28.400
75 just because I think Vegas. A whole 5 % less,

00:50:28.460 --> 00:50:31.119
wow. Well, Vegas has the potential to be streaky

00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:33.920
as we've seen, but I like your assessment there.

00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.019
Okay, moving on. We talked about this briefly.

00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:41.159
Lector member Mena out indefinitely for the rest

00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:45.780
of the season. What do you think is the decrease,

00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:50.000
if any, that Indy sees in their win percentage?

00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:53.219
So basically you're replacing her with Carly

00:50:53.219 --> 00:50:57.260
Scott. What do you think the decrease in points

00:50:57.260 --> 00:51:00.059
had she stayed healthy be? Because you can never

00:51:00.059 --> 00:51:02.340
predict how people are going to respond to a

00:51:02.340 --> 00:51:04.059
situation like that. And we've seen people step

00:51:04.059 --> 00:51:07.920
up. You see some people crumble. I mean, she

00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.059
is one of the top point scorers in the league.

00:51:11.340 --> 00:51:13.280
Okay, if I'm thinking about what they're losing

00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.400
and potentially what they're gaining by other

00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:20.480
players stepping up, I'll say 15%. Okay. Is that

00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.019
too high? I don't know. No, I was going to go

00:51:22.019 --> 00:51:27.139
25. Whoa! I think she's been that good for them.

00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.699
I think she allows her teammates to slot into

00:51:30.699 --> 00:51:33.500
really good positions. And Teeler did a great

00:51:33.500 --> 00:51:36.280
job at the right side, but teams are going to

00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:39.070
figure her out. I think it's going to be really

00:51:39.070 --> 00:51:41.309
hard. I think both her and Carly played really

00:51:41.309 --> 00:51:44.349
well against Omaha, and I think that that's going

00:51:44.349 --> 00:51:47.809
to be tough to do. They still have a lot of games

00:51:47.809 --> 00:51:51.230
to play. People are excited to play a different

00:51:51.230 --> 00:51:54.190
position, a new player come in. I think they're

00:51:54.190 --> 00:51:57.070
going to feel that loss down the stretch. Okay,

00:51:57.250 --> 00:51:59.690
we talked about this before, but we're going

00:51:59.690 --> 00:52:03.940
to go to Orlando's Abercrombie. Okay, I'm going

00:52:03.940 --> 00:52:07.760
to throw you some stats here of her last six

00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:12.119
matches. Okay, so this is in her sixth match,

00:52:12.300 --> 00:52:19.179
she hit 431. Then she hit 318. Then she hit 224.

00:52:19.659 --> 00:52:25.940
Then she hit 136, 149, and in her last match,

00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:31.469
024. Okay, that is... Incremental from six to

00:52:31.469 --> 00:52:33.369
the most recent. It's pretty definitive, yes.

00:52:33.630 --> 00:52:37.289
What do you think the percentage chances she

00:52:37.289 --> 00:52:39.789
will bounce back before the end of the season

00:52:39.789 --> 00:52:43.769
and get above a 250 hitting percentage consistently?

00:52:44.329 --> 00:52:47.110
Watching her, I can't figure out if she's been

00:52:47.110 --> 00:52:50.489
overused and she's just tired. She has no pace

00:52:50.489 --> 00:52:53.570
on her balls. She's not hitting any angles at

00:52:53.570 --> 00:52:57.550
all. 250, that's decent. It's not outstanding.

00:53:00.010 --> 00:53:03.150
250? What's the percent chance that she'll hit

00:53:03.150 --> 00:53:07.909
250? That will be her average from here until

00:53:07.909 --> 00:53:11.570
the end of the season. 50 %? I'm lower on that.

00:53:11.869 --> 00:53:14.409
I just don't know. I want to be like, girl, figure

00:53:14.409 --> 00:53:18.889
it out. I'm 35 % on that. Really? That's a six

00:53:18.889 --> 00:53:22.230
-match sample size of you getting worse and worse

00:53:22.230 --> 00:53:25.750
and worse. Progressively worse. I want to give

00:53:25.750 --> 00:53:27.150
her the benefit of the doubt because she started

00:53:27.150 --> 00:53:29.210
the season. But it's not hard to hit 250. I know

00:53:29.210 --> 00:53:31.469
that might sound like an elitist statement, but

00:53:31.469 --> 00:53:36.389
it's not. Hitting 250 is not unreasonable. Yeah,

00:53:36.469 --> 00:53:38.210
I mean, it depends on how they use her. It depends

00:53:38.210 --> 00:53:40.670
what situations they put her in. But like you

00:53:40.670 --> 00:53:43.110
said, to me, the troubling thing was there just

00:53:43.110 --> 00:53:46.389
wasn't a lot of pace on her ball. It's not like

00:53:46.389 --> 00:53:50.840
she's making mistakes. that much she's just getting

00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:54.320
dug a ton neutral angles not hitting hard enough

00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:58.639
i i just wonder if they've either a used her

00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:00.599
too much or she's fighting with some sort of

00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:03.300
overuse injury it just doesn't it hasn't looked

00:54:03.300 --> 00:54:05.659
good and the numbers don't look good all right

00:54:05.659 --> 00:54:09.039
in the last it's a two -part question we'll look

00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:11.179
at love here what do you think the percentage

00:54:11.179 --> 00:54:15.699
chance is that atlanta finishes first so they

00:54:15.699 --> 00:54:18.179
have two matches left They play Houston and they

00:54:18.179 --> 00:54:20.480
play Omaha. I believe they're two wins ahead

00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:22.820
of Houston, who's the only team who can catch

00:54:22.820 --> 00:54:25.139
them. What percentage chance do you think they

00:54:25.139 --> 00:54:29.559
finish first? Like 85%, 90%. Even if they lose

00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:31.219
to Houston, I'm pretty confident they'll beat

00:54:31.219 --> 00:54:34.039
Omaha. How many matches does Houston have left?

00:54:34.260 --> 00:54:37.559
Two as well, I believe. Yeah, I'll say 90%. Yeah,

00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:39.300
I was going to go 100 % on that one. I'm going

00:54:39.300 --> 00:54:41.840
to guarantee that. But here's the interesting

00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:44.239
part of the question. What percent chance do

00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:47.799
you give Houston to win the whole thing? 65%.

00:54:47.799 --> 00:54:53.039
Oh, okay, okay. Houston has been my pick since

00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:56.380
early, and they haven't let me down. Yeah, I

00:54:56.380 --> 00:54:59.960
was going to say probably 60%. I like them a

00:54:59.960 --> 00:55:02.780
lot. Atlanta, well, we'll see if they can keep

00:55:02.780 --> 00:55:05.940
swinging, and they have a very aggressive outside

00:55:05.940 --> 00:55:07.940
hitting core. Matty Boggs has been doing a good

00:55:07.940 --> 00:55:10.159
job, but Houston just, they've been able to pull

00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:12.480
out the wins when it mattered, and I think they

00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:16.000
have a bit of a psychological edge against them.

00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:19.280
currently too. So anyway, that's Patton's percentages.

00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:21.539
I hope you had fun with that. Um, I liked that

00:55:21.539 --> 00:55:25.760
one. It is time for listener questions. Our,

00:55:25.900 --> 00:55:28.460
we had a lot of good ones this week, so I had

00:55:28.460 --> 00:55:32.000
to save some good ones for future episodes, but

00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:36.800
they are coming. So first question is these questions

00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.860
kind of combined and were related. So it's a

00:55:39.860 --> 00:55:42.760
very long two part question, but Have you heard

00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:45.920
anything about a conflict and or unification

00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:50.239
of love and PVF? What do you think should be

00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:52.940
the expectations between major league owners

00:55:52.940 --> 00:55:56.599
as the game grows? And that kind of ties into

00:55:56.599 --> 00:55:58.599
a question about like, what the heck happened

00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:02.420
to the MLV? Are they waiting until the end of

00:56:02.420 --> 00:56:06.619
love PVF to come out with more statements or

00:56:06.619 --> 00:56:09.420
what is going on? So I haven't heard anything

00:56:09.420 --> 00:56:12.460
specifically about a merger between Love and

00:56:12.460 --> 00:56:15.340
PVF. If we look at historically other women's

00:56:15.340 --> 00:56:18.079
leagues, and I'm referencing mostly hockey here,

00:56:18.260 --> 00:56:22.260
is the two different leagues, they haven't been

00:56:22.260 --> 00:56:24.519
around long enough to prove which one is successful.

00:56:24.780 --> 00:56:26.880
They have two very different models. They have

00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:30.179
two very different approaches. There is, in my

00:56:30.179 --> 00:56:33.139
opinion, no clear path to joining those leagues

00:56:33.139 --> 00:56:35.500
in the near future. It's going to have to be.

00:56:36.139 --> 00:56:38.219
who can generate revenue, who can make it self

00:56:38.219 --> 00:56:42.579
-sustaining, which model generates fans, TV contracts,

00:56:42.860 --> 00:56:46.639
all of that. There's, if I had to guess, a decade

00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:50.719
worth of jockeying for position before either

00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.579
one of them will kind of say, hey, we need to

00:56:53.579 --> 00:56:56.699
make this a unified thing for the betterment

00:56:56.699 --> 00:56:58.860
of the sport. So then what do you think the expectations

00:56:58.860 --> 00:57:01.659
should be between major league owners as the

00:57:01.659 --> 00:57:04.900
game grows? Like between Love and PVF, the people

00:57:04.900 --> 00:57:08.980
who own the league? Yeah. Nothing. I think that

00:57:08.980 --> 00:57:12.539
they can help find places for athletes to play.

00:57:12.940 --> 00:57:15.400
But there's just, they're both doing their own

00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:16.900
thing. They're both focused on growing their

00:57:16.900 --> 00:57:19.880
own game. They obviously are probably talking

00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:21.920
and looking and trying to learn from each other.

00:57:22.019 --> 00:57:24.179
But I don't think there's any cooperation happening.

00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:26.760
I think they want their league to be the best.

00:57:27.150 --> 00:57:29.630
But, like, what you see in other countries and

00:57:29.630 --> 00:57:34.469
stuff is, like, the National Federation is at

00:57:34.469 --> 00:57:38.869
the kind of the top, and then there are branches

00:57:38.869 --> 00:57:42.309
of different levels. And I understand USA Volleyball

00:57:42.309 --> 00:57:44.570
is, like, at the top of both of these leagues,

00:57:44.630 --> 00:57:46.550
but they're, like, completely different entities.

00:57:46.969 --> 00:57:50.929
So what I think would be interesting is if they

00:57:50.929 --> 00:57:53.650
kind of ran it the way you see overseas, where

00:57:53.650 --> 00:57:57.980
you can be... promoted or demoted from one league

00:57:57.980 --> 00:58:01.340
to another based on your finish of the year before

00:58:01.340 --> 00:58:03.780
and that's what you see like there's typically

00:58:03.780 --> 00:58:08.000
like an a league b c d and like if you win the

00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:11.119
b you get to play a next year if you come bottom

00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:13.920
of a you have to go down to b and i think that

00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.820
would be cool If like the bottom team in love

00:58:16.820 --> 00:58:20.619
has to go to PVF and like the winner of PVF gets

00:58:20.619 --> 00:58:23.500
to play in love. But like with the overlap of

00:58:23.500 --> 00:58:25.579
cities and stuff like that, like it's just not

00:58:25.579 --> 00:58:29.320
realistic. So I don't know. I think they're just

00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:31.599
two completely different products and it's hard.

00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:34.360
Well, I mean, I agree that that would be a great

00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:36.460
kind of tier. Especially because USA Volleyball

00:58:36.460 --> 00:58:39.929
is supporting both. You don't have individual

00:58:39.929 --> 00:58:43.369
team owners. I know. I'm saying that would be

00:58:43.369 --> 00:58:46.989
interesting. I did not say it was feasible. Yeah.

00:58:47.050 --> 00:58:50.610
If MLV actually happens and they put as much

00:58:50.610 --> 00:58:53.510
money in and all of the promises that they have

00:58:53.510 --> 00:58:55.510
said from their one press conference are true.

00:58:55.510 --> 00:58:58.030
From their one statement, just bashing everybody.

00:58:58.090 --> 00:59:00.789
And they bring in all of the best players in

00:59:00.789 --> 00:59:02.610
the world and you have the top league in the

00:59:02.610 --> 00:59:05.909
U .S., that with individual owners could be a

00:59:05.909 --> 00:59:10.360
tier one, tier two. with pvf yeah now there's

00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:12.139
a little bit of sarcasm in my voice around that

00:59:12.139 --> 00:59:14.659
but that's a situation i could see going in that

00:59:14.659 --> 00:59:17.500
direction but also where did they go you're coming

00:59:17.500 --> 00:59:20.159
out and you're literally like gonna stomp on

00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:22.039
everything that these other leagues are doing

00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:25.719
and then you just disappear so the the person

00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:26.980
who asked this question was like do you think

00:59:26.980 --> 00:59:29.019
the supernovas ownership will have to go back

00:59:29.019 --> 00:59:31.659
to pvf with their tails between their legs can

00:59:31.659 --> 00:59:38.519
you imagine it will be pvf season i literally

00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:40.159
don't know what happened i haven't heard anything

00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:42.440
and again we reached out to them and asked for

00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:44.480
an interview or a comment never heard anything

00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:47.440
back so and they are apparently starting in january

00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:50.800
yeah they better get to work yeah question two

00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:54.340
are there any standout players for you guys in

00:59:54.340 --> 00:59:56.260
the pvf that you think could play at a higher

00:59:56.260 --> 01:00:00.480
level in love or another league Thinking further

01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.760
ahead, do you think there will be a lot of players

01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:05.659
switching between the two leagues and we could

01:00:05.659 --> 01:00:08.440
see a level change as a result? Well, there's

01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:11.179
a lot of pieces to that question. Okay, without

01:00:11.179 --> 01:00:13.860
having done any prep work on this, I think the

01:00:13.860 --> 01:00:16.079
first person that kind of sticks out, I think

01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:19.920
Brooke Nunaveller could play. Really? I think

01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.719
she could play in another league. I think she

01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:27.199
passes well enough to be a P2, a P2 with some

01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:31.159
offensive upside. And so I think that there's

01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:35.480
some potential there. You know, you have to get

01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:37.880
used to the ball coming a little faster and doing

01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:40.960
all that, and maybe she starts as a bench player,

01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:43.400
like the third left side and works her way in.

01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:45.659
I think she has potential to potentially play

01:00:45.659 --> 01:00:48.739
in another league. I would say Morgan Hentz.

01:00:49.019 --> 01:00:52.139
Yeah, I think Morgan Hentz has a shot. I think

01:00:52.139 --> 01:00:55.260
Corey Lewis, honestly, should be considered.

01:00:56.219 --> 01:01:00.039
She's very good. And she has no experience serving

01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:02.460
or playing defense or anything, and she's figuring

01:01:02.460 --> 01:01:05.019
it out. I just think she's so physical. I think

01:01:05.019 --> 01:01:07.800
she could go somewhere else. I think Natalie

01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:12.380
Foster. You love her? I don't think. I don't

01:01:12.380 --> 01:01:15.860
know. I think PVF is where she belongs. I think

01:01:15.860 --> 01:01:19.239
she has potential. I think she's a pretty good

01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:23.880
blocker. I think offensively she needs to be

01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:25.360
a little bit better. She's got a really good

01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:29.130
serve. some teams could use. I'm not talking

01:01:29.130 --> 01:01:31.889
hopping straight into A1 Italy, but I'm saying

01:01:31.889 --> 01:01:36.030
I think there's a ceiling there where there's

01:01:36.030 --> 01:01:40.489
potential. And there are other players who are

01:01:40.489 --> 01:01:44.230
good, but I think their size limits them from

01:01:44.230 --> 01:01:48.389
going up and playing in the next kind of tier.

01:01:48.610 --> 01:01:50.989
I mean, Brittany Abercrombie has played in different

01:01:50.989 --> 01:01:54.539
leagues up until this point, I think. If we're

01:01:54.539 --> 01:01:56.960
seeing her level from earlier in the season,

01:01:57.099 --> 01:02:00.440
yes, she could for sure play somewhere else.

01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:03.519
So those would be the ones that kind of come

01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:06.119
to the top of my head. Yeah, we didn't. I didn't

01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:07.860
tell Adam about this question beforehand. And

01:02:07.860 --> 01:02:10.659
honestly, I wanted to go in just like thinking

01:02:10.659 --> 01:02:14.480
blind as well. But I feel like a lot of the PVF

01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:16.380
athletes are playing at a level where they fit.

01:02:17.820 --> 01:02:21.079
Yeah. But there are a few. There's a handful

01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:24.820
that I think. Could either pursue something overseas

01:02:24.820 --> 01:02:29.039
or try to work their way into love. I honestly

01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:31.280
don't really see there being a lot of players

01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:33.780
switched between love and PVF. I don't think

01:02:33.780 --> 01:02:38.119
we're going to see mass back and forth. I think

01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:41.659
the levels of the two are going to kind of stay

01:02:41.659 --> 01:02:45.880
differentiated. Love kind of has a mode around

01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:48.050
it. they have to be invited into the league.

01:02:48.150 --> 01:02:50.190
I think they're going to identify their top couple

01:02:50.190 --> 01:02:52.550
college players every year and pull them in and

01:02:52.550 --> 01:02:55.349
then see if they can pull in a few international

01:02:55.349 --> 01:02:58.090
players. I see that level probably staying very

01:02:58.090 --> 01:03:00.110
similar to where it is. The one thing I will

01:03:00.110 --> 01:03:02.530
say is I think PVF can do a better job of identifying

01:03:02.530 --> 01:03:06.610
college players that have either underperformed

01:03:06.610 --> 01:03:08.929
in college or maybe weren't in the best spot,

01:03:08.989 --> 01:03:11.389
didn't have the most opportunity, or came to

01:03:11.389 --> 01:03:15.190
the sport late. My understanding is they let

01:03:15.190 --> 01:03:19.690
a lot of athletes come to them instead of going

01:03:19.690 --> 01:03:21.670
out and looking at them. So having a scouting

01:03:21.670 --> 01:03:24.289
kind of piece for that, I think would make a

01:03:24.289 --> 01:03:27.429
big difference for them. Question three is which

01:03:27.429 --> 01:03:29.949
love rookie has made the most improvements so

01:03:29.949 --> 01:03:32.849
far this season? Franklin, Skinner, or Merzik?

01:03:33.230 --> 01:03:36.429
My instinct is Merzik. That's what mine was too.

01:03:36.610 --> 01:03:39.610
I understand Skinner switched positions and it's

01:03:39.610 --> 01:03:43.860
different. But you're not seeing her do anything

01:03:43.860 --> 01:03:46.900
different other than hitting on the right side.

01:03:47.019 --> 01:03:49.199
Franklin, I'm seeing the same things. I'm not

01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:53.039
seeing her add elements to her game. I feel like

01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.880
she's playing the same way she was in college.

01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:58.840
Merzik, I think the thing working in her favor

01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:03.619
is that she has got a very good and very experienced

01:04:03.619 --> 01:04:07.820
coach working with her. And she was crafty and

01:04:07.820 --> 01:04:10.239
she was moving the ball around. During the college

01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:13.840
season. But I feel like she is finding different

01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:18.300
tools to make her game more well -rounded and

01:04:18.300 --> 01:04:21.900
more suited to maybe an international style.

01:04:22.500 --> 01:04:24.619
So I think with Franklin coming into the season,

01:04:24.699 --> 01:04:26.579
what I was looking for is, is your passing going

01:04:26.579 --> 01:04:28.800
to get better? I'm not sure that it has. You

01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:31.739
know, they sub her out. It's not, it's still

01:04:31.739 --> 01:04:35.099
a weakness. And that was, for me, what needed

01:04:35.099 --> 01:04:37.559
to happen. I also don't think Carlini sets her

01:04:37.559 --> 01:04:41.119
particularly well. So I think that part makes

01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:44.500
it challenging for her. For Skinner, I was looking

01:04:44.500 --> 01:04:48.500
at her finding some different angles and hitting

01:04:48.500 --> 01:04:51.079
against bigger blocks and finding different ways

01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:54.519
to score other than just being physical. And

01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:56.239
I think she's still kind of playing the same

01:04:56.239 --> 01:05:00.219
way. And again, the position change is tough

01:05:00.219 --> 01:05:02.780
to judge. But again, I think your assessment

01:05:02.780 --> 01:05:04.500
of Mirzik was accurate, and that was my choice.

01:05:04.909 --> 01:05:07.670
Our final question of the week is, what do you

01:05:07.670 --> 01:05:10.510
think about the volleyball broadcasters? Who

01:05:10.510 --> 01:05:13.630
are your favorite play -by -play and color commentators?

01:05:13.989 --> 01:05:16.869
For the women's games in the U .S., are you tired

01:05:16.869 --> 01:05:20.630
of hearing about NFL and NBA dads, hearing football

01:05:20.630 --> 01:05:23.710
terms like red zone and quarterback every single

01:05:23.710 --> 01:05:27.070
game, and that you have to win by two? For part

01:05:27.070 --> 01:05:30.969
two of that question, yes. I understand they're

01:05:30.969 --> 01:05:32.829
trying to keep viewers' interest, but like...

01:05:33.099 --> 01:05:36.079
I don't know when the term red zone started being

01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:39.500
used so frequently. I mean, they like to talk

01:05:39.500 --> 01:05:44.440
about the like famous family members and parents.

01:05:44.500 --> 01:05:46.780
Like it doesn't drive me crazy. I understand

01:05:46.780 --> 01:05:49.820
that they're trying to, you know, make it relatable

01:05:49.820 --> 01:05:53.199
for everybody watching. But it happened. I mean,

01:05:53.219 --> 01:05:56.760
those comments happen a lot. I think what I've

01:05:56.760 --> 01:06:01.650
realized this year is that. The commentating

01:06:01.650 --> 01:06:05.869
for the matches plays a huge role in your enjoyment

01:06:05.869 --> 01:06:09.710
of the match. I agree. My favorite, Paul Sunderland.

01:06:09.909 --> 01:06:13.230
He's my favorite play -by -play too. He is fantastic.

01:06:13.349 --> 01:06:17.409
He does an incredible job of telling you what's

01:06:17.409 --> 01:06:20.710
happening and also giving you a little bit of

01:06:20.710 --> 01:06:22.429
volleyball knowledge about it. Like that was

01:06:22.429 --> 01:06:28.289
a bad set. Yeah, he's honest. Totally. He's honest

01:06:28.289 --> 01:06:32.139
about that. And he has a very unique way of highlighting

01:06:32.139 --> 01:06:36.039
a player's past experience, making them look

01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:38.639
good, but putting it into context. Keeping it

01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:40.840
within context of the match and the league that

01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:44.980
they're playing in. Yeah, I agree. He does such

01:06:44.980 --> 01:06:47.760
a good job and he's so knowledgeable, but it

01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:51.139
doesn't seem like too much. Yeah. So he is hands

01:06:51.139 --> 01:06:55.780
down my favorite play -by -play guy. Yeah. I'm

01:06:55.780 --> 01:06:57.619
not going to include you on my analyst list.

01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:00.780
Adam has to say me. Just kidding. I honestly,

01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:02.460
I think Holly McPeak does a really good job.

01:07:02.460 --> 01:07:06.260
I like Holly McPeak too. And I think she does

01:07:06.260 --> 01:07:07.900
a lot of games with Paul. Like their dynamic

01:07:07.900 --> 01:07:12.000
is very good. I would say my overarching issue

01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:17.559
with analysts is they turn into play by play

01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:20.559
after the fact. I don't think the majority of

01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:23.699
analysts do a good job of. telling you why something

01:07:23.699 --> 01:07:26.619
happened or what shifts should happen. If you

01:07:26.619 --> 01:07:29.119
watch other sports, the analysts are talking

01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:32.420
about decision -making, what broke down in that

01:07:32.420 --> 01:07:36.039
play, how this happens. And I haven't heard a

01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:38.719
lot of good analysis in the volleyball matches.

01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:42.860
Yeah, I would agree. You hear a ton of analysts

01:07:42.860 --> 01:07:46.199
just basically repeat what happened in the play.

01:07:46.340 --> 01:07:48.199
And it's like, yeah, we know that was a good

01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:51.539
swing. We know that was a good set. What did

01:07:51.539 --> 01:07:53.739
that hitter see? Why did they make that decision?

01:07:53.980 --> 01:07:57.219
What is the block doing? Those detail pieces

01:07:57.219 --> 01:08:00.920
I find analysts have a hard time talking about.

01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:05.280
Those would be my top two. Yeah, agreed. We watch

01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:08.000
a lot of volleyball, and I know you're going

01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.000
to be shocked to hear this. We're pretty critical

01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:12.119
even of the play -by -play and the analysts.

01:08:15.170 --> 01:08:17.989
Yeah, they really can make or break your experience.

01:08:18.329 --> 01:08:20.289
And we've been talking about this extensively,

01:08:20.329 --> 01:08:22.529
and we'll dive into it probably in a couple weeks

01:08:22.529 --> 01:08:25.489
as we do some league wrap -ups and whatnot. But

01:08:25.489 --> 01:08:28.409
Paul Sunderland is the best. Hands down the best

01:08:28.409 --> 01:08:30.869
one, in my opinion. All right, that was an extremely

01:08:30.869 --> 01:08:33.390
long episode. I hope you stuck around. I hope

01:08:33.390 --> 01:08:37.569
you enjoyed it. We had fun. If we move forward

01:08:37.569 --> 01:08:40.720
and look at what is coming up this week. The

01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:43.380
Love head -to -head match is on Thursday at 8

01:08:43.380 --> 01:08:46.319
p .m. Eastern between Houston and Atlanta. You

01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:48.239
know what? We haven't seen those two teams play

01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:51.720
enough recently. So you can see that on Love

01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:55.340
Live, which generally is YouTube or DAZN. The

01:08:55.340 --> 01:08:58.199
Weekend with Love is in Austin on Friday and

01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:01.020
Saturday, and these matches are all on ESPN+.

01:09:01.470 --> 01:09:04.909
In NCAA men's action, Pepperdine and UCLA have

01:09:04.909 --> 01:09:07.130
their series on Thursday. That's at 10 o 'clock

01:09:07.130 --> 01:09:10.149
Eastern and Saturday at 8 p .m. Eastern. That

01:09:10.149 --> 01:09:14.569
is on Big Ten Plus. UC Irvine and Long Beach

01:09:14.569 --> 01:09:17.949
State play Friday at 10 o 'clock p .m. Eastern

01:09:17.949 --> 01:09:20.949
and Saturday at 9 o 'clock Eastern. I'm excited

01:09:20.949 --> 01:09:23.930
for those. Those are both on ESPN Plus, and if

01:09:23.930 --> 01:09:26.390
you watch no other volleyball this week, watch

01:09:26.390 --> 01:09:29.380
those matches. McKendree and Ball State play

01:09:29.380 --> 01:09:32.899
on Saturday at 5 p .m. Eastern. McKendree is

01:09:32.899 --> 01:09:38.000
the knockoff team or knockout team or the upset

01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.199
team. The giant killer, maybe. So they're always

01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:43.760
fun. They're always fun to watch. PVF, Friday,

01:09:43.939 --> 01:09:47.520
7 p .m. Eastern. San Diego plays Atlanta on Volleyball

01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:50.899
World TV. And on Sunday at 3 p .m. Eastern, Indy

01:09:50.899 --> 01:09:54.420
plays Orlando, playoff implications. And that

01:09:54.420 --> 01:09:57.229
will be on their YouTube channel. That concludes

01:09:57.229 --> 01:09:59.930
this week's episode of Volley Talk. There's always

01:09:59.930 --> 01:10:01.630
something shaking in the volleyball world, and

01:10:01.630 --> 01:10:04.289
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