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Hi volleyball fans and welcome back to volley talk the podcast created for volleyball lovers who want to dig deep into what is going

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On in NCAA and international volleyball. I'm your host Sarah pavin

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I'm an Olympian Beach volleyball world champion former Nebraska corn husker and longtime pro both indoor and on the beach

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And I'm Adam Schultz former indoor player international volleyball coach and the show's resident stack guy

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Welcome to March

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One we have made it through January and February

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We have lots of volleyball to talk about this week and yet again the NCAA women just can't stay away because we have some more

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Coaching news for you on that front

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There were some big changes being made with some love

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rosters starting six situations

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coaches, etc and

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Conference play has started here and there for a lot of men's teams, but not all of them quite yet

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We are so excited to talk volleyball with you today. So let's get started

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All right on the NCAA women's front

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Following the cascade of events following brain for shards retirement at, Kansas

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Trent Kirsten is going from LMU to Oregon. I believe he was only at LMU for one season

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Keep climbing that was very short-lived. Let's put it that way and this week you saw a few

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LMU athletes making the transfer to Oregon to go with him

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So that is happening next question who will coach at LMU? We just keep the domino effect going here

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Champions League last week. I was out of it

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On one, I don't know what was going on. I thought we were already in March

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Maybe it was call it wishful thinking perhaps

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But the first round of women's quarterfinals start this week

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Not last week as I was so incredibly passionate about we went to look for games to watch this week

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And I couldn't find any because they all start because I was hallucinating I guess so I apologize for that

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The men's quarterfinals are set however we have got

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Lundenberg playing okay

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Again the pronunciation is going to struggle but we've got Lundenberg from Germany playing

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Zavirchi

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From Poland

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We've got an all-italian matchup between Monsa and Perugia

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Then the Turkish team halkbank from Ankara is playing Warsaw from Poland

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And then a Greek team Piraeus is playing another Polish team Jastrzebski

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Vagio Vagio you get the idea so we've got

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Three Polish teams two Italian teams and then one each from Germany Turkey and Greece

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So those matches are going to be happening

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Next week, so we're going to go women's matches this week then men's matches

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And alternate like that on the NCAA men's front number 15 Lewis took down number seven Loyola Chicago 3-1

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We will be talking about that match as our feature match this week

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We had a lot of fun watching that one number four, Hawaii beat number three UC Irvine

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3-0 in their first matchup, which happened very very late Friday night

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The second match is happening after our recording

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Sunday night. Do you have any predictions for that one?

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Because we watched about half of that match. Yes, and it was a ton of fun. Well, UC Irvine has made some serious adjustments

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We saw Nolan Flexin playing left side. We saw William Darcy playing right side. So their

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Passing slash ball control left side in and in Kiriakou. He was not on the court at all

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They definitely needed a better size matchup. I would say to you mean against the 611 setter that Hawaii has that and against

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Tetriski, yeah, they are big on the right side of the court

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So I don't know if that's going to be a permanent change

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But it was definitely something that they felt they needed to do against Hawaii, which I agree

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Well, but it was interesting because they gave up a ton of aces clean like watching balls hit the floor. So

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I mean clearly yes, the size is important, but they're also not comfortable with the service reception

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And what we were watching Tetriski was like scoring at will anyway

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Yeah, and you took Flexin out of his element, which he just didn't look as comfortable on the left

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So, I don't know. I don't know what the Sunday night match looked like because we're going to be a Monday at this point

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But 3-0, I expected it to be much tighter

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However, the lineup changed through me for a loop. Well, and I think

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The changes make sense long term for them if they're going to compete for a national title having more size on the left side

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It's just going to be a matter of how long does it take them to settle in?

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Well, the changes and I'm sorry, but Joe Carlos will always be a liability at the net. He just doesn't put up a block

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I mean they try to bring in Aiden Rigg. They're like backup setter who's 6'6", but he's young

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He's inexperienced. So I was shocked, but it was definitely entertaining to watch

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Oh, it was a great game

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Number 14, UC San Diego beat number 8 Stanford 3-2 on Saturday night

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And number 12 Grand Canyon dropped both of their matches to number 9 Pepperdine 3-1

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We watched the first one of these

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So it was it was interesting for me to watch my initial instinct was Pepperdine was bigger and more physical than Grand Canyon

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But I like the style of volleyball Grand Canyon played better

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I think I mean Grand Canyon just couldn't stop the right side for Pepperdine Cole Hartke who

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Had 18 points and hit 552 and came in par away through the match didn't even start

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No, and he but he literally hit the same angle on every single ball and Grand Canyon just couldn't stop him

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So Pepperdine was big but they were slow in my opinion and not quite as skilled

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But their size just allowed them to win. So the right side and middle combination were just untouchable by Grand Canyon

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So I'm curious to see how Pepperdine will do against other big skilled teams

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Not that they're unskilled but they're not as dynamic as some of the top, you know, five schools

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So it was an interesting stylistically for me and Pepperdine came out on top

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I definitely liked Grand Canyon's style

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Their one left side was so dynamic and so so fast off the ground lightning speed arm

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The way that the word that kept coming to mind when I was watching Stanford or sorry Pepperdine play was lumbering

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They were big but they were just like plotting along a little bit

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So, I don't know for me watching NCAA men's volleyball

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I feel like there's kind of two groups that are playing together

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I feel like there's kind of two groups that have kind of emerged

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I feel like the top, you know, six to eight play at a certain level

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And then there's a jump, a slight dip in level once you get below that

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I feel like the top six to eight in the rankings are just playing higher above the net with more power, more athleticism

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And it's not that the volleyball that we've seen from the mid-range teams is bad

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It's just like different, it's a different style than we're seeing from the Long Beach's, the Hawaii's, the UC Irvine stuff like that

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Well, I think your six to eight was generous

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I think mine probably stops at four or five

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And I think for me when I watch it, those top teams have everything

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They have size, they have speed, they have their dynamic and they're skilled

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And then when you get to that, you know, let's call it six to ten and we can kind of argue about that six or seven teams

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Well, it's hard because like BYU is like pretty good, they're six

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And then I've seen moments of brilliance from Stanford who was like an eight this week

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But then like Loyola Chicago watching them, I'm like, I wouldn't really put them in that same category

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So it's tough, it's like, yeah

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Yeah, but for me those teams that are on the, in the second, let's call it the second tier

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They have, you know, two of the three or two of the four characteristics of the top team

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Just not quite everything

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And that's not to say they can't win

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But if you put them in a best ten match series, I think those top teams are going to win eight of ten, nine of ten

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But the men's has been thoroughly entertaining

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Well, we're seeing more movement happening in the rankings with each week that progresses

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So I think this week will be no exception

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I, you know, depending on how the Sunday match goes, I think Hawaii could take over the number three spot

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Pushing Irvine down to number four per hour

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Like we're going to see some mix up because we're seeing more and more ranked upsets

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Agreed

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So that makes it exciting, definitely

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If you know anything about me, I never cheer for the underdog

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But like the ranking switch ups keep it, everyone on their toes, you know

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This week in love, we saw the head to head match feature Salt Lake and Houston with Salt Lake winning 3-0

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Which, good for Salt Lake, but a little surprising

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We didn't watch that

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We know that Houston has been doing line up things with resting

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They looked a little tired last week, but I don't know

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Yeah, and then for our weekend with love, Atlanta beat Omaha 3-2

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I'm a little surprised that one went five

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Madison had a great weekend winning both at home

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They beat Omaha 3-1 and Austin 3-0

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Back in that win column, baby

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They just have to play in Madison and they're going to win matches

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We watched the Austin match, so we'll go over that one in a little more detail later on

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But that leaves the standings as Atlanta in first, Houston in second, Austin in third, Omaha in fourth, Salt Lake and still followed up by Madison

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However, they have three wins instead of one after this weekend, so they're trending in the right direction

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Got to start somewhere

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If we look at the PVF, Columbus is continuing their winning streak

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They took down Atlanta last Sunday 3-0

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Big win for them

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But then their run came to an end on Saturday

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They had a 3-1 loss to San Diego, but I do think they're picking up momentum

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I think they're going to move and shake

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Have to start somewhere

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Vegas, however, is sliding the other way

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They continue to struggle

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They lost 3-1 to Indy

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Orlando keeping on, they're dominating

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They beat Omaha 3-0 and Atlanta 3-2

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Two tough matches

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Yeah, and they won both of them

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They're consistent at this point

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So Orlando is now solidly in the lead with 10 wins and four losses

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Followed by Omaha at 8-4 and then Indy in Vegas

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Columbus is back in last place, but they are not solidly there

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I think you're going to be able to see some movement in that last place spot in the coming weeks

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This week was really good

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I think we started to see some unusual results

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Let's call them that way

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Not everything happened as we would have predicted based on the rankings, which is good to see

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I think at this point of the season, you're starting to see teams find their coaches' identity

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The ones who had maybe a long-term plan, you're starting to see that settle in

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Teams are starting to figure out how they want to play together

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Other teams are realizing they're going to have to make switches for long-term success

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And they're seeing a bit of a dip

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So at this point, I think we're starting to see some long-term strategic decisions

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Which will be interesting to see how they play out over the course of the rest of the seasons in all three leagues

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Our first feature match of the week is Love Madison versus Love Austin

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We saw a lot of changes both on the benches and on the court for both teams

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So let's touch on those before we dive into the match

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I think, first of all, the biggest one is Austin has a new head coach in Chris McGown

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He was the head coach of the BYU men's team from 2011 to 2015

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He was the 2013 AVCA national coach of the year

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He has been coaching in Japan

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He's been around, but now he's back in Austin because the Italian coach Marco Bonita

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He left the team for personal reasons

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I very much hate when people cite personal reasons for leaving things

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It could be anything, it could be illness, a death in the family

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It could also be that he didn't like coaching here

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It could be that he hated, yes

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It's like, can we get a little more specific, please?

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Trust me, Adam and I did some digging, we tried to figure it out

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But they are keeping this very hush hush

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So if you have any insight, please hit me up on Instagram or by email

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Because we couldn't find any details other than personal reasons

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And I mean, we hope everything is okay, that there's no major problems

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But that's the cop-out excuse

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Man, we also saw Nicole Fossett on the Austin coaching staff

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She has been an assistant with the Ohio State women's team for the last couple seasons

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I did see that Ohio State said goodbye to her, wished her well

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But I didn't see much past that

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Turns out she's coaching in Austin now

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So that was very interesting to see

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That was an interesting move for me

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I'm still trying to figure out

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I mean, there's obviously more opportunities in college

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And I don't know if more prestige

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But I have to think more money, especially for somebody of her name value

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So this was an interesting move for me to see her on the bench at Love Austin

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Definitely, I felt like Ohio State was a great fit for her

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She grew up in Ohio, solid program

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They're building, they're young

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I thought she would be there for a while

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So I was surprised to see that she left

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And like you said, to go to Austin, of all places

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I can see a lot of former volleyball athletes and people that have been in the USA system

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Like getting involved in love

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I think a lot of former athletes are very excited about it

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And they're trying to build careers in that space

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And help the mission, which I think a lot of them are passionate about

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But to give up the opportunity at Ohio State, yeah, it's an interesting decision

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So that was the bench changes we saw

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Now on the court, we saw some differences on both sides as well

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From the Austin side, we saw Asia O'Neill starting

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Molly McCage has been starting for most of the season

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But that was a difference

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We also saw Zoe Jarvis move to DS

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And Inoue, Inoue, you guys know who I mean, is now playing libero

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I'm a little surprised to see the changes for Austin just because they were playing well

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And they were definitely up and down

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I wouldn't have considered them particularly consistent

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I mean, they were better than this

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Yeah, I mean, if you have a solid...

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I'm shocked that Inoue wasn't playing more during the season

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Like she wasn't even coming in as a DS ever and all of a sudden she's out there

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She played great, I thought she was really good

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But I'm like, where have you been hiding?

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Well, and I think the other thing to remember here is that this coach is brand new

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Doesn't know the players

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So things are shaking up

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He's trying to get his footing, understand what all of the athletes are capable of

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So he does need to be given a little bit of leeway as he tries to figure out what his roster looks like and what he has

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Well, I'm saying I liked the libero decision because I thought she was very good

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Yeah, I don't disagree with you, but I'm saying that the changes are not surprising given he is going to put his own stamp on this team

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Well, and I think that she actually was playing libero last week too

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So this one's like a brand new change

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This was like the first time we have seen Austin in this like lineup

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So keep that in mind

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From the Madison side, Sarah Franklin did not play

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And Jennifer Janiska from Germany was playing in her spot

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Other than that, we also saw Annie Drews

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She had been like flashing in and out here and there through the season, but was not playing consistently

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So we saw Annie Drews shoe mucker back, Franklin out, replaced by Janiska

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So my initial thought on this move for Madison was that it was about ball control

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I didn't hear about any injuries, so I'm assuming that was not the case

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But I know that Sarah Franklin was being picked on

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I know that Madison wasn't running their middles as much as I think they probably should have

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And I think that had a lot to do with ball control

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I'm curious if...

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Well, they also switched their libero

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They had Wong from China playing all season, and now they switched to Medved

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So my instinct is that Furbringer wanted to start from the back, dial in the pass, try and find some rhythm

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as a team, and then go from there

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And they won two matches in a row, it's hard to say that...

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I mean, obviously that had a factor, but they're also at home

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Well, they had to make a change

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I'm sorry, you're like bleeding out all season, you need to change something

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So I'm glad to see that some adjustments were made

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You can't keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result

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The ball control makes sense to me

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My question is, do you think this is a sustainable change for long-term success?

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Annie Schumacher was scoring efficiently

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I... okay, we know I'm not a fan, but like, she was scoring points for them, albeit mixed in with errors

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I don't think they were getting a ton of scoring prowess from the left sides

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I don't know, is it sustainable?

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But you win two matches in a row like that, if passing is the big difference, then ride that, you know?

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I kind of agree with you, but I also disagree with you

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I think that, yes, you needed to show up your passing, I think that that was a good call

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Watching Annie Drews, for me, I think she scored at least five balls where she just nicked the block on a tip

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Oh, yes

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But that's not an in-system play, to me that is not sustainable

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Well, I think that was a product of Carlini's setting

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She got player of the game for that match and I was stunned because I thought her setting against Austin was super inconsistent

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I thought the setting across the board in this match was not very good

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Also fair

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But you're saying she's tipping and I'm like, you saw the left sides having to tip a ton, you saw Drews having to tip a ton

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They had no choice because the balls were like flaring tight and then they were flaring off and then they were switching like it was wild

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But that comes to me to the consistency of whether this change is going to work long term

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So a couple things, you make a change and teams don't have any video on those rotations, there's less preparation, you can go out and score

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It's like a coach bump, you get an instant juice to your team when you make switches

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When I watch this, who is going to score points consistently?

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Because when I watch them score on those tips, that is not sustainable to me

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Well, you need two players who can score consistently at least and you need to run your middle if you want to be a successful team long term

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I completely agree with you in that

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Well, and I thought they did run the middle well because Anahal had nine points, Carrera had eight, they hit 357 and 500

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I thought Madison did a better job of getting the middles into the match and I think that will lead to sustainable long term success

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But you're going to need, I don't know if you can ride Annie Drews all the way to the top of the league

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And if you don't have Franklin in, who's going to score points on the left side?

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Chausse is consistent, I like her as a player, but you don't have a horse on the left side without Franklin on the floor

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I'm just not sure that works long term

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I think the devil's advocate here, do you need a horse on the left side if you're able to consistently run the middle and keep the other side honest?

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Because if you don't have a horse and you're getting your less capable scorers one on ones, that's something

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Yeah, but I don't, it's good that Madison ran the middle more, but I don't think that Hall and Carrera are, they can score you some points

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But I don't think they can win you the match from an offensive standpoint

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They're not like Anak Bagu

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Exactly, and so while they do need to use that to open it up, I just don't think, they need Franklin on the left side as an option to anchor everything

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But she needs to be able to pass

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And so that is going to be the consistent trade off of where do they find their balance in that regard

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Well it's like Franklin is one of the top five scorers in the league

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So my question is, is it because she's passing so bad that she has to get every ball because the setter's running everywhere

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That she's just getting that many more attempts than everybody, or is she that good of a scorer?

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Yeah, I mean

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I want to say it's somewhere in between

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Yeah, probably, and you know, Carlini, they passed better and Carlini didn't set well

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Like I'm waiting for everything to click for Madison, and you know maybe Carlini will find some rhythm with the passing being a little more consistent

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I mean again, it's a step in the right direction for them

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There were some individual bright moments in that, but watching it, I'm just not sure it's sustainable with what they're doing

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Fair

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I mean watching it, I was also like, how is Austin losing this?

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Because I wasn't watching Madison being like, oh my gosh, you're a brand new team, amazing

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I was watching them being like, okay, you're not like getting aced and you're not making just bonehead mistakes

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But I'm watching it, I'm like, I feel like Austin should be winning this

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None of the Austin players played particularly well

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There were a lot of errors

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We talked about the setting, I thought Carly Lloyd struggled in that match

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Well they keep giving her chances

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I saw her set a slide that nobody was there for

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It happened three times

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Completely missed her hitters, but then like a middle ran a route, they're like

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A 31

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Well she ran the in between behind the set, you know what I mean?

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Not the C, not the slide, the one in between, the gap behind

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And Lloyd set the full slide, and it's like how...

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The thing is, that's not the first match I've seen this happen

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I've seen this consistently, but they keep giving her the nod to start

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And then they have to take her out, and I'm like, I'm not saying Torres came in and was like all world or anything, but

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I mean, again, and you have a coach in here who's trying to figure it out

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I get it from a coaching standpoint, you come in, you have Carly Lloyd

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You know what she has done in her past, you're gonna give her a shot, you wanna maintain that relationship

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But it's, where is that going to happen?

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And you know, I thought Ugbagu was their best player by far

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They set her way more, and we've been talking about how they have to set her more

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And I was like, hallelujah, this is what they need to do

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They got her 18 balls, she had, she hit 6-11 with 11 kills

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That is the example of a player who can dominate in the middle, and you need to get her the ball as much as you can

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Stop me, stop me, she was the best player in the match for me, hands down, I thought she was outstanding

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Yeah, I was so happy to see them getting her the ball more, she's the difference maker for that team

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And you could see her, because she was getting more involved, she was more vocal

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She was more of a leader on the court, able to draw on her experience to direct the team

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The thing that confused me is, they yanked Madison Skinner at one point and put Julian Fauset in

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Meanwhile, I then see Fauset make what, 4 hitting errors in a row, and they do not put Madison Skinner in

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They choose to put Cat Bell in, let me tell you

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And it was the point where the right side was rotating to the back row

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If we're picking somebody that needs to attack back row here, I'm picking Madison Skinner all day over Cat Bell

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That decision left me head scratching

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I was like, what are they doing? Is she injured? Can she not go back in?

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Honestly, my first thought was the coach was trying to make a point, I don't know what that point was

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Because, I mean, other than Ugbagu, Skinner was your best hitter

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She was only hitting 188, but nobody else was even close to that

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And she was the only one other than Ugbagu who was scoring points

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I was shocked that they pulled her, it didn't make any sense to me

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That they pulled her, but then they just didn't put her back in?

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Yeah, because Eggleston struggled, she hit 0-42

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I thought Eggleston passed decently, I was pleasantly surprised with her passing, but the hitting, yeah

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Well, things are not great right now for Austin

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And for me, they get a pass as they try and settle into a new coach, a new style, figuring it out

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We'll see what happens, but if Austin is going to be successful, Maddie Skinner is part of that

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Whether it's on the left, whether it's on the right, take your pick

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To me, she needs to be on the floor, your team needs to revolve around Ugbagu and Skinner

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And they're going to have to figure that out

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Overall, I was happy to see Madison get two wins

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Just to move their season in the right direction

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For me, the jury's out on whether this is sustainable for them

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I want to see how they play in the next two weeks

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To me, this is going to be, can you build on that momentum?

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Do your changes stick and do you find a way to get Franklin back in?

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I'm cautiously optimistic for them in that regard

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And on the Austin side, I'm going to forget about this match

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I'm going to give them a pass and give them a week to settle in

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Another week to settle in with the coach and figure out what's going on

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If I don't see Maddie Skinner on the court next week

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Watch out everybody, Adam's coming for you

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I'm confused

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So we will see, I will say Ugbagu needs to keep getting as many balls as she can

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Keep Eggleston on the floor to pass, don't set her

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Well, Eggleston typically is your point scoring left side

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That's what they have Gennari and Hawk on the court for, for ball control

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Eggleston, her role is she needs to score

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Yeah, they got to figure out the setting for it

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I mean everybody has rough games, don't like, I know but

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The setting needs to get ironed out

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For sure, yes

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But good for Madison, we'll see what happens with Austin

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At least it made things interesting

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I enjoyed watching that match

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Our second feature match of the week is on the NCAA men's side

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Lewis versus Loyola Chicago

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I feel like we've kind of been staying west coast a little bit for men

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So we wanted to mix it up and go back midwest, more east, you know what I'm saying?

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Heading home

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Yeah, we're on our way home over here

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Into the snow

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This is a typical thing that we were talking about earlier of

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You've got that top chunk of teams and then you've got teams that are very good

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But are more, as Adam said, like second tier, I guess

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This was an entertaining match

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And I think we saw a lot more rallies and digs happening because as you were kind of saying earlier

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They don't have the, necessarily the same crazy physicality and power that some of the top teams have, you know?

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It was definitely not as terminal

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There weren't as many errors

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They had better ball control

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And again, part of that's because the ball's not coming quite as fast when you're watching it

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So it was definitely entertaining

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For the viewers who like the volleyball rallies and were missing maybe some of that NCAA women's feel

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Watching the match had that same kind of, oh man, what a dig, there's a rally

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You know, went over and it was a different

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It was different from watching, like you said, the top six teams play

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Which was like, holy cow, those guys are hitting above the antenna

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It's like just run off of the quarter, you're going to just get impacted into the floor

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Yeah, so I enjoyed watching this

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I thought Lewis was very good

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I liked Lewis, okay

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Even though it was considered an upset

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I think I said like 15-7

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I really liked Lewis and I thought they won for sure

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The setting battle and the libero battle

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I would agree with you on that

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Lewis to me was just a good volleyball team

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They were skilled, they passed well, they looked well trained, they operated as a unit

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You could tell they had a game plan and everybody knew their roles and responsibilities

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To me watching them, you go, okay, their coach knows what they're doing

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They have a style and an identity as a team and they execute that

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And watching that, you think, okay, if they had a 6-9 opposite who touched 12-2

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They could compete with all of the other teams

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Do you know what I mean?

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They didn't have, like their right side played pretty well

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Oh, gosh, I might have mispronounced that, sorry

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Yeah, he was

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He played pretty well, but I think like their left sides

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While they were consistent and did well in this match

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I think once they face like a Hawaii where they have to block a go head to head with Tretrisky

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Or, you know, with Ido David or, you know, flexing people like that

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I think that's where you'll start to see the difference

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Your dad has said something to me since I've known him about volleyball

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And this resonates with me 100% of the time

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Big and skilled beats little and skilled every time

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But little and skilled can beat big and unskilled

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And that is Lewis to me

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But like you were looking up their heights during the match and you were like shocked

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Yeah, their setter was 6-7, okay

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Yeah, they're not tiny, obviously

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But they're not like elevating

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The height that they're playing above the net is not the level of the top five

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As a team, Lewis only made 13 errors in four sets

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Including serving?

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No, they made 13 hitting errors in four sets

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That is very impressive to me in men's volleyball

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When did they hit on the match?

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They hit 347 as a team

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Compared to Loyola Chicago who made 24 hitting errors and hit 219

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So they are, again, they're skilled

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They know what they're trying to do

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00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:45,380
They make good decisions

448
00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:49,380
Like volleyball IQ wise, they were very good

449
00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:53,380
I said this like very early in the first set

450
00:32:53,380 --> 00:32:55,380
Which may be premature

451
00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:58,380
But you guys love my opinions, don't you?

452
00:32:58,380 --> 00:32:59,380
No, I'm just kidding

453
00:32:59,380 --> 00:33:02,380
But it held true for me for the entirety of the match

454
00:33:02,380 --> 00:33:11,380
Is that I thought that the Lewis setter just ran a much cleaner offense

455
00:33:11,380 --> 00:33:14,380
Watching the Loyola Chicago side

456
00:33:14,380 --> 00:33:18,380
I thought he ran the middle and left side pretty well

457
00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:22,380
Their main point scorer, Parker Van Buren, is on the right

458
00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:30,380
And I found the setter's right side or back setting to be very inconsistent

459
00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:33,380
Which took Van Buren out of his rhythm

460
00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:37,380
The back row attacks were way too far behind the 10-foot line

461
00:33:37,380 --> 00:33:41,380
Well, it's crazy that they didn't execute with the right side very well

462
00:33:41,380 --> 00:33:43,380
But they still set him 50 times in the match

463
00:33:43,380 --> 00:33:46,380
Well, that's the thing, it looks like a struggle at times

464
00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:48,380
And I'm like, I feel like he's better than this

465
00:33:48,380 --> 00:33:50,380
But you could see him, and I don't know

466
00:33:50,380 --> 00:33:52,380
Adam picked this up about him pretty quickly

467
00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:55,380
Is that his jump is very up and down

468
00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:59,380
Which may lend itself to front row attacking

469
00:33:59,380 --> 00:34:02,380
But it's not ideal for back row attacking

470
00:34:02,380 --> 00:34:06,380
You want to kind of drift forward in the back row

471
00:34:06,380 --> 00:34:09,380
So maybe that was also a piece

472
00:34:09,380 --> 00:34:12,380
I had a hard time picking up whether he was jumping straight up and down

473
00:34:12,380 --> 00:34:16,380
Because of the sets or because that's what he normally does

474
00:34:16,380 --> 00:34:20,380
And the other thing I noticed was that his arm didn't come all the way back

475
00:34:20,380 --> 00:34:23,380
When he was attacking, but it did when he was serving

476
00:34:23,380 --> 00:34:29,380
And so, having only watched him once, I'd need to watch again a little bit

477
00:34:29,380 --> 00:34:31,380
And maybe the setter had an off night

478
00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:37,380
We don't have a comparison, but he got 50 sets, he had 21 kills, he hit 260

479
00:34:37,380 --> 00:34:39,380
So he didn't have a terrible night

480
00:34:39,380 --> 00:34:41,380
No, that's not bad

481
00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:43,380
I feel like he could have been more effective

482
00:34:43,380 --> 00:34:45,380
And that was it, it wasn't

483
00:34:45,380 --> 00:34:49,380
Watching him as a player, and he was pretty dynamic, he jumped well

484
00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:52,380
I thought he was the most athletic person on the floor

485
00:34:52,380 --> 00:34:54,380
Watching both teams

486
00:34:54,380 --> 00:34:58,380
But there was something missing in that match specifically

487
00:34:58,380 --> 00:35:01,380
Where you thought that he could have been doing more

488
00:35:01,380 --> 00:35:05,380
And it would be, I mean I want to watch Loyola Chicago again

489
00:35:05,380 --> 00:35:07,380
They are obviously ranked in the top 10

490
00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:10,380
That was not a top 10 performance in my opinion

491
00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:14,380
And so, I'll watch again when they play a good opponent and see

492
00:35:14,380 --> 00:35:17,380
Is it a difference, am I noticing the same things

493
00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:22,380
But he can be a difference maker, and he wasn't enough of one in that match

494
00:35:22,380 --> 00:35:26,380
I did think they're outside Fabikovic

495
00:35:26,380 --> 00:35:30,380
I thought he was pretty solid, pretty consistent

496
00:35:30,380 --> 00:35:32,380
Well they only set those two players

497
00:35:32,380 --> 00:35:36,380
So the opposite got 50, Daniel got 38, and hit 211

498
00:35:36,380 --> 00:35:41,380
I thought they ran the middle, like their middles when they were run were scoring

499
00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:43,380
Like they were pretty effective in my opinion

500
00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:45,380
Was that Nicodemus?

501
00:35:45,380 --> 00:35:48,380
Nicodemus Meyer, you guys, okay

502
00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:50,380
So Nicodemus only got-

503
00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:53,380
My cousin named her hamster Nicodemus once

504
00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:56,380
So when I saw this name I was like, wow

505
00:35:56,380 --> 00:35:57,380
Brought back a childhood?

506
00:35:57,380 --> 00:36:01,380
Well I thought it was always like, there was a character on Star Trek

507
00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:03,380
Because my uncle's obsessed with Star Trek

508
00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:06,380
And I'm like, he for sure named this hamster

509
00:36:06,380 --> 00:36:10,380
But then Adam just told me before this that that's not the case

510
00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:12,380
Because he also loves Star Trek

511
00:36:12,380 --> 00:36:14,380
It is biblical for sure

512
00:36:14,380 --> 00:36:18,380
Now if it is a Star Trek name and I'm just blanking this morning

513
00:36:18,380 --> 00:36:20,380
I'm gonna look like a Star Trek frog

514
00:36:20,380 --> 00:36:25,380
Is it a Star Trek character? Adam claims to be a huge Trekkie

515
00:36:25,380 --> 00:36:28,380
And if he's missing this, unacceptable

516
00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:31,380
But Nicodemus only got seven sets

517
00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:34,380
I mean he was efficient, he got five kills, he hit 571

518
00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:36,380
What, get the man the ball

519
00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:37,380
He only hit seven

520
00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:41,380
I will say, the setter got pulled

521
00:36:41,380 --> 00:36:42,380
Correct

522
00:36:42,380 --> 00:36:43,380
In what was his set three

523
00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:44,380
Yeah

524
00:36:44,380 --> 00:36:47,380
And Smiths Van Oyen came in, finished the match

525
00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:49,380
I liked this guy

526
00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:54,380
I thought that he delivered a really nice ball

527
00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:56,380
He is a redshirt freshman

528
00:36:56,380 --> 00:36:59,380
So I don't know if that is playing a role into why he's not playing more

529
00:36:59,380 --> 00:37:03,380
But I thought that the way that he ran the offense was much smoother

530
00:37:03,380 --> 00:37:06,380
Curious if he'll start to play more, I don't know

531
00:37:06,380 --> 00:37:08,380
But I liked him better

532
00:37:08,380 --> 00:37:13,380
Well and again, I would agree that he did a better job when he came in

533
00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:14,380
I thought it made a difference

534
00:37:14,380 --> 00:37:16,380
I'm curious

535
00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:19,380
It's hard with no comparison

536
00:37:19,380 --> 00:37:21,380
We need to watch them play a little more

537
00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:26,380
But in a snapshot in one match, he was better that night

538
00:37:26,380 --> 00:37:28,380
The game was entertaining

539
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:31,380
The four set had a ton of lead changes

540
00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:33,380
Loyola was up 10-5

541
00:37:33,380 --> 00:37:38,380
And then all of a sudden, they were down 13-12

542
00:37:38,380 --> 00:37:40,380
And there were runs of points

543
00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:42,380
How does that happen?

544
00:37:42,380 --> 00:37:46,380
I think that match very easily could have gone to five

545
00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:49,380
Had Loyola been able to keep their lead at 10-5

546
00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:55,380
But again, Lewis is one of those teams, and I would say similar to Stanford

547
00:37:55,380 --> 00:37:58,380
Where they make you beat them

548
00:37:58,380 --> 00:37:59,380
I thought they served well

549
00:37:59,380 --> 00:38:01,380
I loved their serving plan

550
00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:02,380
They passed well

551
00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:05,380
But again, they served so many short balls

552
00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:06,380
So many

553
00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:08,380
And they were working

554
00:38:08,380 --> 00:38:10,380
Lewis, it was obvious

555
00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:11,380
They're well coached

556
00:38:11,380 --> 00:38:12,380
They had a game plan

557
00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:14,380
Everybody was on point

558
00:38:14,380 --> 00:38:15,380
They were executing as a team

559
00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:18,380
I really liked Lewis as a team

560
00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:19,380
I liked them too

561
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:23,380
The thing for me is Lewis was not hiding the fact that they were short serving

562
00:38:23,380 --> 00:38:24,380
Not at all

563
00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:26,380
It was like hitting the ceiling

564
00:38:26,380 --> 00:38:34,380
And the amount of miscommunication on the Loyola Chicago side on these short balls was astounding to me

565
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:38,380
Like the libero running in front of the left side trying to pass it

566
00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:42,380
Just the middle standing there and then jumping out of the way at the last second

567
00:38:42,380 --> 00:38:45,380
It's like this ball is literally a rainbow

568
00:38:45,380 --> 00:38:48,380
Like somebody take charge of this

569
00:38:48,380 --> 00:38:54,380
Because Lewis must have obviously identified something to be like, yes, let's exploit this

570
00:38:54,380 --> 00:38:59,380
The other thing that was nuts to me is every single time there was a short serve

571
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:05,380
They ran a 31 at the middle, fastball over the top to the left side and only set those two players

572
00:39:05,380 --> 00:39:08,380
They never set the right side on a short serve once

573
00:39:08,380 --> 00:39:14,380
Well, that came back to I think to you saying that's the setters most uncomfortable is going back

574
00:39:14,380 --> 00:39:15,380
Again, I don't know this setter

575
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:18,380
Just watching him. I'm like he does not like setting back

576
00:39:18,380 --> 00:39:23,380
But Lewis had 21 block assists and two solo blocks

577
00:39:23,380 --> 00:39:26,380
Like their serve block strategy was on point

578
00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:31,380
And that's compared to Loyola Chicago only had eight block assists and two solo blocks

579
00:39:31,380 --> 00:39:36,380
So like Lewis obviously had a plan and they executed it at a very high level

580
00:39:36,380 --> 00:39:39,380
And the other thing I will say, you talked about the setter for Lewis

581
00:39:39,380 --> 00:39:41,380
He ran a super balanced offense

582
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:47,380
His hitters got 33, 27 and 22 sets as an outside core, right?

583
00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:53,380
I thought the one thing I noticed in Lewis was I thought they could have run the middles a little bit more

584
00:39:53,380 --> 00:39:56,380
I like the distribution of the setter to the pin hitters

585
00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:58,380
I thought they did a good job with that

586
00:39:58,380 --> 00:40:02,380
Again, overall Lewis super skilled, good game plan

587
00:40:02,380 --> 00:40:04,380
Thought they could have run the middle a little bit more

588
00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:07,380
But other than that, I really liked them as a team

589
00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:08,380
I think their middles were good blockers

590
00:40:08,380 --> 00:40:11,380
I feel like they're more of the blocking style middles

591
00:40:11,380 --> 00:40:16,380
I thought their opposite Auguste brought a ton of energy and fire

592
00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:20,380
Which like fired up the other guys on the team

593
00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:25,380
Daniel Haber, the left side, like sneaky good

594
00:40:25,380 --> 00:40:26,380
Yes

595
00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:30,380
Like he was putting up some numbers like from an offensive perspective

596
00:40:30,380 --> 00:40:33,380
From the service line like not super flashy

597
00:40:33,380 --> 00:40:35,380
So he kind of flew under the radar

598
00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:37,380
But I think he did really well

599
00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:40,380
It's funny you mentioned that because in my notes while I was watching the game

600
00:40:40,380 --> 00:40:43,380
I have Lewis number 14 is low-key good

601
00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:45,380
Like you don't

602
00:40:45,380 --> 00:40:46,380
Yes

603
00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:47,380
It took me all match

604
00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:49,380
I had that note in the fourth set

605
00:40:49,380 --> 00:40:51,380
It took me all match to kind of clue in

606
00:40:51,380 --> 00:40:53,380
This guy is legit

607
00:40:53,380 --> 00:40:58,380
You don't notice him but every time he touches the ball it's a positive action

608
00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:01,380
You need guys like that on your team

609
00:41:01,380 --> 00:41:02,380
Like man

610
00:41:02,380 --> 00:41:04,380
Well, I mean he was

611
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:06,380
He hit 227, he had 9 kills

612
00:41:06,380 --> 00:41:10,380
He had 4 aces, 3 blocks and 8 digs

613
00:41:10,380 --> 00:41:12,380
That's a solid outing

614
00:41:12,380 --> 00:41:13,380
That's a great night

615
00:41:13,380 --> 00:41:14,380
That's a great night

616
00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:16,380
You need players like that

617
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:18,380
I loved moving east

618
00:41:18,380 --> 00:41:19,380
It was really good

619
00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:22,380
You know we hadn't seen Lewis or Loyola play

620
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:25,380
Both of them were ranked in the top 15

621
00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:28,380
It was good to see kind of another style

622
00:41:28,380 --> 00:41:32,380
I want to see them play some of these other teams

623
00:41:32,380 --> 00:41:34,380
I'm not sure we'll see that now until

624
00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:39,380
I wanted to say I heard the announcers mention that one of them is going to play CSUN

625
00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:40,380
Okay

626
00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:42,380
Who is like around that level, I don't know

627
00:41:42,380 --> 00:41:46,380
Yeah, I'm curious just given the style how they would compete

628
00:41:46,380 --> 00:41:50,380
My instinct is they're not going to compete with Long Beach

629
00:41:50,380 --> 00:41:53,380
I think they could beat UCLA depending on which UCLA team we see

630
00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:55,380
We never know

631
00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:59,380
But I don't think they beat Irvine, I don't think they beat Hawaii

632
00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:00,380
But all of the other

633
00:42:00,380 --> 00:42:02,380
Even BYU, I think they could push BYU

634
00:42:02,380 --> 00:42:04,380
Well that was going to BYU

635
00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:07,380
I think the game against Stanford would be really good

636
00:42:07,380 --> 00:42:11,380
Those matches would be super interesting just given the style

637
00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:14,380
And again I thought Lewis was very skilled

638
00:42:14,380 --> 00:42:16,380
So I had a lot of fun

639
00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:18,380
I'm going to definitely be following them now

640
00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:23,380
I feel like I finally have a good snapshot of the NCAA men's landscape

641
00:42:23,380 --> 00:42:25,380
We've watched a lot of the teams

642
00:42:25,380 --> 00:42:26,380
So I'm invested now

643
00:42:26,380 --> 00:42:27,380
This week

644
00:42:27,380 --> 00:42:29,380
I never know what's coming

645
00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:31,380
It kind of stresses me out and I get excited

646
00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:32,380
It's crazy

647
00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:36,380
Sarah, my only line in the show notes is Adam game

648
00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:39,380
And so I make these up as we go and we just kind of see what happens

649
00:42:39,380 --> 00:42:42,380
You know we've watched a lot of volleyball at this point

650
00:42:42,380 --> 00:42:44,380
I would say I think we're about halfway through the seasons

651
00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:48,380
We've got you know Love, PVF, NCAA men's

652
00:42:48,380 --> 00:42:53,380
We've got the quarterfinals of both the women's and the men's Champions League coming up

653
00:42:53,380 --> 00:42:58,380
So we are going to make midseason predictions

654
00:42:58,380 --> 00:42:59,380
Oh dear

655
00:42:59,380 --> 00:43:02,380
So we're going to go through each league

656
00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:05,380
And you are going to tell me which two teams you think

657
00:43:05,380 --> 00:43:07,380
Do you have references for me?

658
00:43:07,380 --> 00:43:08,380
I do

659
00:43:08,380 --> 00:43:09,380
So I have it all here

660
00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:11,380
I'm going to give you the current standings

661
00:43:11,380 --> 00:43:15,380
And you're going to tell me which two teams you think are going to be in the finals

662
00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:19,380
Is this just based on my feelings or is it like

663
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:23,380
I'm anticipating what the rankings will be and what the matchups are

664
00:43:23,380 --> 00:43:24,380
Do you know what I'm saying?

665
00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:25,380
No

666
00:43:25,380 --> 00:43:30,380
So I'm just going like straight feel like who cares what the playoff matchups are

667
00:43:30,380 --> 00:43:33,380
Yeah who cares what the playoff matchups are

668
00:43:33,380 --> 00:43:37,380
And you know if in the scenario where you have maybe a 2-3 in the semi-finals

669
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:39,380
If that's the final of those the best two teams

670
00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:44,380
Like who do you think are going to be the best two teams in the league at the end?

671
00:43:44,380 --> 00:43:45,380
Okay

672
00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:47,380
So let's start with Love

673
00:43:47,380 --> 00:43:50,380
We have Atlantis 8-1

674
00:43:50,380 --> 00:43:52,380
Houston's 4-4

675
00:43:52,380 --> 00:43:54,380
Austin is 4-5

676
00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:56,380
Omaha 4-5

677
00:43:56,380 --> 00:43:58,380
Salt Lake 4-6

678
00:43:58,380 --> 00:43:59,380
And Madison 3-6

679
00:43:59,380 --> 00:44:02,380
And this is as of Saturday night

680
00:44:02,380 --> 00:44:08,380
I think we are going to see the final be Atlanta and Houston

681
00:44:08,380 --> 00:44:10,380
And I think Houston will win

682
00:44:10,380 --> 00:44:13,380
I have always in watching Love

683
00:44:13,380 --> 00:44:19,380
I feel like Houston is the most well balanced and the most consistent team

684
00:44:19,380 --> 00:44:23,380
Again consistent teams you don't have a perfect season necessarily

685
00:44:23,380 --> 00:44:29,380
So yes they've dropped a couple here and there but Atlanta Houston, Houston takes it

686
00:44:29,380 --> 00:44:31,380
We have the same prediction on that one

687
00:44:31,380 --> 00:44:32,380
Really?

688
00:44:32,380 --> 00:44:36,380
Yeah I like Houston's ability to win in big moments

689
00:44:36,380 --> 00:44:40,380
You know I think they're still playing lots of players again all things being equal

690
00:44:40,380 --> 00:44:41,380
I like their setting

691
00:44:41,380 --> 00:44:42,380
Yeah

692
00:44:42,380 --> 00:44:46,380
I like their right side, I like their left side pair, I like their middles are coming on

693
00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:48,380
Like yeah

694
00:44:48,380 --> 00:44:50,380
Yeah I would agree with you on that one

695
00:44:50,380 --> 00:44:54,380
Okay let's move to the PDF

696
00:44:54,380 --> 00:44:56,380
We have Orlando is 10-4

697
00:44:56,380 --> 00:44:58,380
The Supernovas are 8-4

698
00:44:58,380 --> 00:45:00,380
Indy 7-5

699
00:45:00,380 --> 00:45:02,380
Vegas 7-5

700
00:45:02,380 --> 00:45:04,380
Atlanta 6-8

701
00:45:04,380 --> 00:45:06,380
San Diego 5-8

702
00:45:06,380 --> 00:45:08,380
Grand Rapids 4-8

703
00:45:08,380 --> 00:45:10,380
And Columbus 4-9

704
00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:12,380
Oh dear, oh dear

705
00:45:12,380 --> 00:45:15,380
Okay I think Orlando will be in the final

706
00:45:15,380 --> 00:45:19,380
I think you know they have really hit their stride

707
00:45:19,380 --> 00:45:20,380
Found good rhythm

708
00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:24,380
And like even though they've been pushed to 5 a few matches

709
00:45:24,380 --> 00:45:26,380
They've been dominant recently

710
00:45:26,380 --> 00:45:29,380
So oh then the second team

711
00:45:29,380 --> 00:45:31,380
I mean Omaha knows how to win

712
00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:35,380
They did it last year, a lot of their core players are back

713
00:45:35,380 --> 00:45:39,380
I feel like I'm copping out and just going for whoever's in the top two right now

714
00:45:39,380 --> 00:45:43,380
But oh I also like Vegas even though they're underperforming

715
00:45:43,380 --> 00:45:45,380
Maybe they'll find it again

716
00:45:45,380 --> 00:45:46,380
Now I'm overthinking it

717
00:45:46,380 --> 00:45:50,380
I want to say Orlando Omaha or Orlando Vegas

718
00:45:50,380 --> 00:45:52,380
I'm going Orlando Indy

719
00:45:52,380 --> 00:45:53,380
What?

720
00:45:53,380 --> 00:45:54,380
I like Indy

721
00:45:54,380 --> 00:45:58,380
You like? We've been? What? No

722
00:45:58,380 --> 00:45:59,380
Okay well

723
00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:00,380
I think they're going to figure it out

724
00:46:00,380 --> 00:46:06,380
You know what I'm just going to go for a flyer here and say Orlando Vegas, Orlando takes it

725
00:46:06,380 --> 00:46:07,380
I think Orlando will win

726
00:46:07,380 --> 00:46:10,380
I think they're the best team this year

727
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:12,380
Now barring any trades or anything like that

728
00:46:12,380 --> 00:46:14,380
But I think Indy's going to figure it out

729
00:46:14,380 --> 00:46:17,380
Alright let's move to NCAA men's

730
00:46:17,380 --> 00:46:19,380
We've spent a lot of time talking about this

731
00:46:19,380 --> 00:46:20,380
There's lots of teams

732
00:46:20,380 --> 00:46:23,380
I'm not going to go through the 1-20

733
00:46:23,380 --> 00:46:28,380
But who do you think is going to be standing in the finals?

734
00:46:28,380 --> 00:46:30,380
Oh my goodness

735
00:46:30,380 --> 00:46:36,380
I feel like Long Beach State hasn't really been pushed yet this season

736
00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:40,380
I think entering big west play will be a huge indicator

737
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,380
As to where they're actually at

738
00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:45,380
Because I want to say their preseason schedule

739
00:46:45,380 --> 00:46:48,380
Like I wasn't super or like their schedule to date

740
00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:50,380
I haven't been super impressed with it

741
00:46:50,380 --> 00:46:58,380
They've played a lot of lower ranked teams as opposed to like a UC Irvine whose schedule was loaded

742
00:46:58,380 --> 00:47:04,380
So it's hard for me to make a prediction at this moment

743
00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:08,380
But if I'm just going to go for it based on what I've seen so far

744
00:47:08,380 --> 00:47:11,380
I'm going to say Long Beach State Hawaii in the finals

745
00:47:11,380 --> 00:47:12,380
Was that yours?

746
00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:15,380
I thought I was going to have a different take than you

747
00:47:15,380 --> 00:47:18,380
I love Hawaii, I love them right now

748
00:47:18,380 --> 00:47:21,380
And you guys know I love UC Irvine too

749
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:25,380
But they need to figure out their lineup situation

750
00:47:25,380 --> 00:47:29,380
If like Kyriaku stays in they need to figure out that L2 situation

751
00:47:29,380 --> 00:47:32,380
Like I don't know they've kind of taken a dip lately

752
00:47:32,380 --> 00:47:34,380
But I do really like them too

753
00:47:34,380 --> 00:47:38,380
But no I'm going to say Long Beach State Hawaii in the final

754
00:47:38,380 --> 00:47:40,380
And then

755
00:47:40,380 --> 00:47:44,380
You know what let's just be wild I'll say Hawaii wins

756
00:47:44,380 --> 00:47:47,380
I was shocked I thought I didn't think you were going to pick Hawaii

757
00:47:47,380 --> 00:47:48,380
Oh my gosh

758
00:47:48,380 --> 00:47:51,380
I like them I think they are

759
00:47:51,380 --> 00:47:53,380
I think right now they've got lightning in a bottle

760
00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:56,380
And they're big and they're getting better

761
00:47:56,380 --> 00:48:02,380
And I would have said UC Irvine two weeks ago

762
00:48:02,380 --> 00:48:08,380
But they're just they lose out on the size matchup in the setting position in their L2 unless they figure it out

763
00:48:08,380 --> 00:48:09,380
Why in their middle?

764
00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:10,380
Yeah

765
00:48:10,380 --> 00:48:13,380
So it will be interesting

766
00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:19,380
When they run into a middle a team who has dominant middles they can't compete

767
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:23,380
And I definitely think UCLA is the dark horse of the tournament

768
00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:27,380
And I say dark horse they're very good but they're inconsistent

769
00:48:27,380 --> 00:48:28,380
They're so up and down

770
00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:34,380
They can't seem to find the motivation to be good night in and night out

771
00:48:34,380 --> 00:48:36,380
They play down to their competition

772
00:48:36,380 --> 00:48:38,380
Would I be surprised if UCLA wins?

773
00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:44,380
No but I don't think they're showing the characteristics of a championship team right now

774
00:48:44,380 --> 00:48:47,380
Okay let's move on to Champions League

775
00:48:47,380 --> 00:48:51,380
I'm going to give you the teams who are in the quarterfinals what the matchups are

776
00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:53,380
So what am I picking who's going to make the final four?

777
00:48:53,380 --> 00:48:54,380
Who's going to make the final four?

778
00:48:54,380 --> 00:48:56,380
No I want you to pick who's going to be in the final

779
00:48:56,380 --> 00:48:58,380
Like give me your top two teams

780
00:48:58,380 --> 00:48:59,380
Okay

781
00:48:59,380 --> 00:49:01,380
We're going to do this for women's and men's

782
00:49:01,380 --> 00:49:04,380
We haven't been following men's so the men's is going to be a flyer

783
00:49:04,380 --> 00:49:08,380
But we will watch the quarterfinals

784
00:49:08,380 --> 00:49:15,380
So on the women's side you have Milano Italy versus Izahsi Baci Turkey

785
00:49:15,380 --> 00:49:22,380
Okay so then you have Lodz from Poland playing Scandicci from Italy

786
00:49:22,380 --> 00:49:28,380
You have Vakith Bank Turkey versus Fenerbahce Turkey

787
00:49:28,380 --> 00:49:33,380
You have Rejo from Poland versus Cunegliano from Italy

788
00:49:33,380 --> 00:49:37,380
So three Italian teams, three Turkish teams and two Polish teams

789
00:49:37,380 --> 00:49:39,380
Where is your head at?

790
00:49:39,380 --> 00:49:41,380
Okay I'm not going to overthink this

791
00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:45,380
I think the Milano Izahsi Baci matchup is going to be very good

792
00:49:45,380 --> 00:49:47,380
But I think Izahsi Baci is going to win

793
00:49:47,380 --> 00:49:49,380
Their roster is stacked

794
00:49:49,380 --> 00:49:51,380
I think Scandicci will win

795
00:49:51,380 --> 00:49:53,380
I think Vakith Bank will win

796
00:49:53,380 --> 00:49:55,380
I think Cunegliano will win

797
00:49:55,380 --> 00:49:58,380
Then for the final four I think

798
00:49:58,380 --> 00:50:02,380
Again I don't know what the matchups are exactly

799
00:50:02,380 --> 00:50:06,380
Is it the Scandicci plays Vakith Bank?

800
00:50:06,380 --> 00:50:07,380
I didn't look that far

801
00:50:07,380 --> 00:50:09,380
This is just the order in which they're playing

802
00:50:09,380 --> 00:50:10,380
Okay so if I'm just taking it randomly

803
00:50:10,380 --> 00:50:11,380
I don't know the matchups

804
00:50:11,380 --> 00:50:14,380
I'm just looking at these four teams and I'm going to pick a team to win

805
00:50:14,380 --> 00:50:18,380
If it was just completely random I would probably

806
00:50:18,380 --> 00:50:22,380
I will say the final Izahsi Baci Cunegliano

807
00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:25,380
I'm going to be bold and say Izahsi Baci will win

808
00:50:25,380 --> 00:50:28,380
I think Cunegliano is going to win everything

809
00:50:28,380 --> 00:50:29,380
That's my pick

810
00:50:29,380 --> 00:50:32,380
Again, fair guess, they're stacked

811
00:50:32,380 --> 00:50:38,380
And unless Fenurbaci plays in the semis against Cunegliano

812
00:50:38,380 --> 00:50:40,380
I think they will be in the final as well

813
00:50:40,380 --> 00:50:41,380
Fenurbaci

814
00:50:41,380 --> 00:50:42,380
Yeah

815
00:50:42,380 --> 00:50:45,380
I mean the Turkish teams are loaded

816
00:50:45,380 --> 00:50:46,380
Yeah

817
00:50:46,380 --> 00:50:48,380
Loaded

818
00:50:48,380 --> 00:50:50,380
That's my pick

819
00:50:50,380 --> 00:50:52,380
Okay, I got Izahsi Baci Cunegliano again

820
00:50:52,380 --> 00:50:54,380
Do I know the matchups? Absolutely not

821
00:50:54,380 --> 00:50:59,380
And Adam has Fenurbaci Cunegliano

822
00:50:59,380 --> 00:51:00,380
With Cunegliano

823
00:51:00,380 --> 00:51:01,380
Oh baby

824
00:51:01,380 --> 00:51:02,380
Alright, for fun

825
00:51:02,380 --> 00:51:07,380
This is going to be completely made up because I have not followed men's overseas at all

826
00:51:07,380 --> 00:51:09,380
Yeah, we'll roll the dice on this but I think it's fun anyway

827
00:51:09,380 --> 00:51:15,380
So men's Champions League is going to be Lundbergh, Germany versus

828
00:51:15,380 --> 00:51:17,380
Zaverci?

829
00:51:17,380 --> 00:51:19,380
Zaverci, Poland

830
00:51:19,380 --> 00:51:22,380
We've got Monza, Italy versus Perugia, Italy

831
00:51:22,380 --> 00:51:26,380
We've got Ankara from Turkey versus Warsaw from Poland

832
00:51:26,380 --> 00:51:30,380
Piraeus from Greece versus Wigel from Poland

833
00:51:30,380 --> 00:51:36,380
Okay, I cannot make an informed statement about almost any of these

834
00:51:36,380 --> 00:51:39,380
I will say Perugia will win

835
00:51:39,380 --> 00:51:44,380
I think Zaverci will win

836
00:51:44,380 --> 00:51:49,380
Ankara and Piraeus

837
00:51:49,380 --> 00:51:50,380
I'm making this up you guys

838
00:51:50,380 --> 00:51:53,380
I think Perugia is going to take it all

839
00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:56,380
They've got Leon on that team I think, right?

840
00:51:56,380 --> 00:51:58,380
Or the Polish right side

841
00:51:58,380 --> 00:51:59,380
He's outstanding

842
00:51:59,380 --> 00:52:03,380
I'm going to take Perugia, they've been good for a while

843
00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:07,380
Again, shocker that Trentino didn't make it but too bad

844
00:52:07,380 --> 00:52:11,380
I'm going to go with a flyer, I'm going to pick Lundbergh, Germany

845
00:52:11,380 --> 00:52:12,380
Whoa

846
00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:15,380
In the final, again we're flying here, I've got to watch some matches

847
00:52:15,380 --> 00:52:18,380
We'll talk about this again next week or the week after they've played

848
00:52:18,380 --> 00:52:21,380
And we'll go with, let's go with Poland and Wigel

849
00:52:21,380 --> 00:52:22,380
Okay

850
00:52:22,380 --> 00:52:23,380
We'll see what happens

851
00:52:23,380 --> 00:52:26,380
We'll keep you posted after we actually watch them play next week

852
00:52:26,380 --> 00:52:29,380
Anyway, there are your predictions for the end of season

853
00:52:29,380 --> 00:52:32,380
And we'll see how that goes, I hope you have fun

854
00:52:32,380 --> 00:52:38,380
Alright, it is time for my personal favorite time of the show, listener questions

855
00:52:38,380 --> 00:52:41,380
Our first question is a two-parter

856
00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:42,380
Okay

857
00:52:42,380 --> 00:52:46,380
So maybe I can take the first one, you can take the second part

858
00:52:46,380 --> 00:52:50,380
But can you rank the major overseas leagues from top to bottom?

859
00:52:50,380 --> 00:52:55,380
You mentioned that some of the European leagues like the Italian league are a cut above the rest

860
00:52:55,380 --> 00:53:00,380
Part two, given that love is probably the higher level volleyball in the US right now

861
00:53:00,380 --> 00:53:06,380
What would love have to do to get up to par with those European leagues in terms of quality?

862
00:53:06,380 --> 00:53:09,380
This is going to be generally, like a general statement

863
00:53:09,380 --> 00:53:11,380
It's not like set in stone

864
00:53:11,380 --> 00:53:19,380
But if I'm looking at the women's leagues, I would say the top two are for sure Italy and Turkey

865
00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:23,380
You know, Russia, they have strong teams

866
00:53:23,380 --> 00:53:28,380
The Russian players, especially what's going on politically right now, stay in Russia

867
00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:31,380
And you do have several foreigners that are continuing to go to Russia

868
00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:35,380
So the Russian league is like still legit

869
00:53:35,380 --> 00:53:39,380
It just depends on like who makes the decision to go there

870
00:53:39,380 --> 00:53:41,380
We're not seeing them in Champions League anymore

871
00:53:41,380 --> 00:53:45,380
So Italy, Turkey, Russia, Poland

872
00:53:45,380 --> 00:53:48,380
I would say those are probably the top top

873
00:53:48,380 --> 00:53:56,380
Then we take a step down a little bit and we get into the likes of Germany, France

874
00:53:56,380 --> 00:54:03,380
You know, Japan's, the style is very different, but the Japanese league is pretty good

875
00:54:03,380 --> 00:54:13,380
And then we take another step down and that's when we start to see like Scandinavia, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, Greece

876
00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:15,380
Those type of leagues

877
00:54:15,380 --> 00:54:19,380
So I would say that you've got like the upper echelon

878
00:54:19,380 --> 00:54:23,380
You've got the middle tier with Germany, France, Japan

879
00:54:23,380 --> 00:54:26,380
And then you've got like the lower tier

880
00:54:26,380 --> 00:54:28,380
Where does China fit in, in your opinion?

881
00:54:28,380 --> 00:54:34,380
I would put it, the thing is there are like very, very good Chinese teams

882
00:54:34,380 --> 00:54:38,380
And then like the league top to bottom might not be the strongest

883
00:54:38,380 --> 00:54:40,380
But when you get to the top top, it's very good

884
00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:45,380
I would probably put it on like the Japan, Poland level

885
00:54:45,380 --> 00:54:46,380
Fair enough

886
00:54:46,380 --> 00:54:48,380
Yeah, I think it's pretty good

887
00:54:48,380 --> 00:54:51,380
On the men's side, I'm not as well versed in the men's

888
00:54:51,380 --> 00:54:59,380
But historically, Italy, Poland, Russia, very, very good

889
00:54:59,380 --> 00:55:01,380
Germany is solid

890
00:55:01,380 --> 00:55:05,380
Turkey, I would say second tier

891
00:55:05,380 --> 00:55:06,380
France

892
00:55:06,380 --> 00:55:07,380
France in that group

893
00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:13,380
When you get into like the Scandinavia again, Spain

894
00:55:13,380 --> 00:55:19,380
There is a lot of crossover because again, you're seeing the countries who are able and willing to invest in the sport

895
00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:25,380
So while it might not look the exact same, you see a similar general layout

896
00:55:25,380 --> 00:55:30,380
So we're talking about love versus the other teams

897
00:55:30,380 --> 00:55:34,380
I mean, to me, it just comes down to financially what you're offering players

898
00:55:34,380 --> 00:55:38,380
So I think you have good liberos in love

899
00:55:38,380 --> 00:55:41,380
I think you have good setters in love

900
00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:45,380
Where you're lacking is generally on the pins

901
00:55:45,380 --> 00:55:52,380
And you don't have any of the top right sides in the world other than Jordan Thompson playing in love

902
00:55:52,380 --> 00:55:55,380
Would you put her at the top?

903
00:55:55,380 --> 00:55:57,380
She's not at the top

904
00:55:57,380 --> 00:56:00,380
I want to give her the respect that she deserves based on what she's done

905
00:56:00,380 --> 00:56:02,380
But again, she's not playing at that level

906
00:56:02,380 --> 00:56:09,380
I mean, when you're comparing to like Boskovich, Vargas, Egon, those women are both

907
00:56:09,380 --> 00:56:16,380
Yeah, but you already look at she's found her rhythm and she's pretty much unstoppable in love in these last couple of games

908
00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:18,380
I would definitely put her like top 10 in the world

909
00:56:18,380 --> 00:56:19,380
Yeah, for sure

910
00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:24,380
But so you're missing that and then you're missing the really good left sides

911
00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:26,380
You're Gabi's, you're Italian left side

912
00:56:26,380 --> 00:56:29,380
Like all of those players are still playing overseas

913
00:56:29,380 --> 00:56:31,380
And remember when we want the middle?

914
00:56:31,380 --> 00:56:33,380
So like every position

915
00:56:33,380 --> 00:56:37,380
Yeah, and I was going to say the middles are just bigger and more physical

916
00:56:37,380 --> 00:56:39,380
The game happens faster

917
00:56:39,380 --> 00:56:46,380
You can't pay those players or they are not currently paying those players those salaries to bring them in and play in this league

918
00:56:46,380 --> 00:56:49,380
So that to me is the biggest difference

919
00:56:49,380 --> 00:56:58,380
The other thing I will say is that love is not set up to have, you know, one owner come in and pay a million dollars in salary

920
00:56:58,380 --> 00:57:00,380
You come into the league

921
00:57:00,380 --> 00:57:07,380
And so you don't see those top teams who either have a super rich owner or a big corporation who loves volleyball going

922
00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:12,380
I'm going to buy all of the best players and we're going to make a run at Champions League

923
00:57:12,380 --> 00:57:21,380
It is a unified approach to creating a good product versus 10 owners competing to have the best team

924
00:57:21,380 --> 00:57:28,380
And I think that that fundamental difference changes how the league functions

925
00:57:28,380 --> 00:57:34,380
Well, I think you see typically three different types of motivation when athletes are choosing where to go

926
00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:36,380
Tell me if you agree with this or not

927
00:57:36,380 --> 00:57:39,380
You see money

928
00:57:39,380 --> 00:57:44,380
So players are either going for huge contracts, earn as much as they can

929
00:57:44,380 --> 00:57:46,380
You're going for lifestyle

930
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:56,380
Somewhere where you can be comfortable, have a, you know, manageable training schedule and game schedule and enjoy your life

931
00:57:56,380 --> 00:57:59,380
Or you have volleyball

932
00:57:59,380 --> 00:58:04,380
Either you are looking to play against better players to improve

933
00:58:04,380 --> 00:58:07,380
You're looking for a certain level of competition

934
00:58:07,380 --> 00:58:09,380
You want to make sure you're starting

935
00:58:09,380 --> 00:58:15,380
So I feel like those three factors or some players focus on one

936
00:58:15,380 --> 00:58:18,380
Some players focus on a combination

937
00:58:18,380 --> 00:58:25,380
I feel like those three things kind of come together in some capacity to determine where players go

938
00:58:25,380 --> 00:58:29,380
And I think the lifestyle aspect in the US is interesting for a lot of players

939
00:58:29,380 --> 00:58:32,380
But the volleyball and the money is better in other leagues

940
00:58:32,380 --> 00:58:37,380
And so until that changes, I don't think you're going to see the top players there

941
00:58:37,380 --> 00:58:41,380
And I'm quite frankly not sure they want those top players in the league

942
00:58:41,380 --> 00:58:45,380
It is, they are very big on a showcasing American talent

943
00:58:45,380 --> 00:58:48,380
Which again, and that's not wrong

944
00:58:48,380 --> 00:58:50,380
That's just their approach to it

945
00:58:50,380 --> 00:58:57,380
And you know, quite frankly, we don't get a lot of messaging from them other than we're here to grow the game

946
00:58:57,380 --> 00:58:59,380
And we love our Americans being at home

947
00:58:59,380 --> 00:59:05,380
And so it would be curious to know after the season, you know, what the future is

948
00:59:05,380 --> 00:59:07,380
What they thought of the season and where it's going to go

949
00:59:07,380 --> 00:59:14,380
Our second question is, can you talk about the opposites in men's NCAA volleyball?

950
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There seems to be more impressive play by them than the outsides

951
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That's an interesting question

952
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I'm not sure I fundamentally agree with the question

953
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I think, so here's

954
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I can get behind it on a case by case basis

955
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Well, so it depends what you mean by impressive

956
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You generally see the monster human beings on the opposite side

957
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So if we're talking about your ability to come screaming out of the back row

958
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And blow people up when you're hitting the ball

959
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It's part of the job

960
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Absolutely, it's in the job description

961
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You are a terminal monster

962
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That is you're coming in and you're hitting and you're blocking

963
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And so and serving

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And so, yes, we have seen some incredible displays of physicality

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Of swings of peak performances where you're scoring, you know, tons of points

966
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And I would agree we definitely have some of those players in the NCAA right now

967
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If we're looking at value to a team or nuance in terms of the game

968
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I think there are some incredible outside hitters that are playing right now

969
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You look at the two outsides for UCLA in

970
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Robinson and Roma

971
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If those two decide that they care about the match and that they're going to be engaged

972
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They are out of this world

973
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You look at we have the left side from Heno from UC Irvine

974
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He is his own breed of magical

975
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Well Dylan Klein for USC

976
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Yeah, there's I'm not sure I would sit here and say that the opposites are more impressive than some of the left sides

977
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They may be bigger and a little more physical in certain aspects

978
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So you see some of those spectacular plays

979
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Flexin I think is spectacular when he gets a set just his physicality how high he hits

980
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I think to Trisky

981
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I think, you know, Van Buren for Loyola Chicago is kind of that as well

982
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So I think as an opposite you have more opportunities to do some of those impressive things

983
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Where you're the out of system option and you're getting flung the ball and you come screaming in the hit

984
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It's kind of like beach volleyball

985
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You know people think the most impressive is when like the player makes an incredible dive and like digs the ball

986
01:01:44,380 --> 01:01:54,380
And it's like for the spectators the opposite is impressive because of the physicality in beach volleyball watching the defenders like

987
01:01:54,380 --> 01:01:58,380
Layout is impressive because it looks exciting

988
01:01:58,380 --> 01:02:06,380
But it's like there are so many nuance II pieces that go to the get into the game that might not look impressive

989
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But they really are

990
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So I hear you about the impressiveness of some of the physicality of the opposites

991
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But I don't think in my opinion that they're running the league or more impressive if you're watching the game from a holistic standpoint

992
01:02:21,380 --> 01:02:23,380
Good question though. Yeah

993
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This one's for you. So I'll tee it up

994
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Sarah why did you switch over to beach considering that you said you've loved indoor more and what went into that decision and was it easy to make?

995
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Whoo, story time with Sarah. Here we go

996
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I'm assuming the majority of you know this but for those who don't I am Canadian

997
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So I started playing for our senior national team in Canada when I was 16

998
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And so I went through the qualification process for the Athens Olympics. Yes, I'm aging myself the Athens Olympics

999
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Look it up. It was a while ago

1000
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Then I went to college

1001
01:03:01,380 --> 01:03:08,380
Stayed in Nebraska for that and then I came back went through the qualification process for London at the time

1002
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I my biggest goal as a volleyball player since I was like

1003
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Five years old was to go to the Olympics

1004
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And in going through those qualifying cycles and seeing where Canada was on the international stage for indoor volleyball, I just

1005
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Didn't feel like I would be able to accomplish my goal following that path at that time

1006
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So in thinking about what how I was going to make that happen. I kind of decided to take matters into my own hands

1007
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And pursue beach volleyball on the international side

1008
01:03:47,380 --> 01:03:54,380
So basically I started playing beach strictly as a means to an end which was to go to the Olympics

1009
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That is the only reason I made the switch again

1010
01:03:58,380 --> 01:04:05,380
Not many people know this about me, but I actually played professionally overseas and played internationally

1011
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Beach volleyball for Canada for six years

1012
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So I would take my indoor contracts from you know, August or September till April or May I would

1013
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Then go on the world tour from May until August and I kind of continued that cycle for six years. I didn't give up indoor

1014
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For a very long time. So I held on to it as long as I possibly could because I again loved it so much more and

1015
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So that is why I made that decision

1016
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Eventually, I like ended my career on the beach when I was you know, ready to stop playing indoor

1017
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But I wouldn't say it was an easy decision to make

1018
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I was wondering if I was committing career suicide on the indoor side by choosing to do that as like

1019
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What amounted to a hobby at the time like a summer hobby

1020
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But yeah, I mean the response I got or the lack of response I got when I kind of voiced my thoughts to the indoor side kind of

1021
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Made it clear that that was the choice I should make. So that is why I did that

1022
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Mission accomplished. I was able to do several things on the beach side, but no I am and always will be an indoor player

1023
01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:32,380
Final question of the episode is do you know what happened to Cami Miner where she's playing

1024
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There doesn't seem to be a lot of information on the internet and people figured she would have ended up at love

1025
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Good question. So after the NCAA season both Cami Miner and Sammy Francis signed with an agency called the Top Volley Group

1026
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It is a massive agency that has branches that work in Brazil, Turkey, Poland, like big

1027
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They have big names in this group. There aren't a ton of Americans, but you see the likes of Kendall Kip, Micah Hancock, Haley Washington

1028
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I believe Katherine Bowden and even internationally you see like Roberta Ratsky, you see Joanna Walasz

1029
01:06:18,380 --> 01:06:27,380
Like big names are a part of this agency so they did sign there, but they have not been placed with a team

1030
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I don't know if they couldn't find anywhere to place them at when the market opened in January

1031
01:06:33,380 --> 01:06:41,380
I don't know if Cami graduated, I mean if she's still trying to finish her education, I don't know

1032
01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:47,380
I do know that for all intents and purposes she will be playing pro because she signed with this group

1033
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But has not been placed anywhere yet

1034
01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:55,380
Alright looking forward to this week, let's give you some of our matches that we think we're going to be watching

1035
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And we'll let you know where you can find them

1036
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So the Love head to head match is on Thursday 9pm Eastern between Omaha and Salt Lake, that will be on ESPN Plus

1037
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The Weekend with Love is in Atlanta on Friday and Saturday and those matches can be seen on Love Live or the Women's Sport Network

1038
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Champions League is actually starting this week, quarterfinals will happen

1039
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And so I did a little digging, those matches are going to be on Tuesday and Wednesday and you can find them on EuroVolie.tv

1040
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And I was able to sign up for a subscription for 16 euros for 3 months which gets me through all of Champions League

1041
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Or what is it like 8 euros for 1 month?

1042
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Yeah, so it's very affordable if you're open to another volleyball subscription, we went ahead and did that, the feeds look good

1043
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So check that out if you want to watch any of the Champions League

1044
01:07:50,380 --> 01:07:58,380
In NCAA men's action on Wednesday at 9pm Eastern, Long Beach State plays Cal State Northridge

1045
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So we'll see what happens with that one, I'm predicting a 3-0 sweep

1046
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Yeah maybe

1047
01:08:04,380 --> 01:08:11,380
Thursday and Friday, and Sarah's calling one of these matches, at 10pm Eastern, Stanford plays UCLA

1048
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Those will be on Big Ten Plus

1049
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I am curious to watch this game given that Stanford is the backboard team that makes you beat them

1050
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Let's see what UCLA shows up, so that will be an interesting match to pay attention to

1051
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And then at 7pm Eastern on Friday, Ball State plays Loyola Chicago, so we're back on the East Coast

1052
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I'm going to watch that one because I'm curious to see what Loyola Chicago looks like in game 2

1053
01:08:38,380 --> 01:08:45,380
Friday and Saturday at 9pm Eastern, USC plays BYU, that is going to be a heavyweight match

1054
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That has ranking consequences to it and I think that's going to be a lot of fun

1055
01:08:50,380 --> 01:08:55,380
If we look at the PVF, San Diego and Grand Rapids play each other twice this week

1056
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Wednesday and Sunday both at 7pm Eastern, Vegas and Atlanta play Friday at 7pm Eastern

1057
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And all of those matches will be on the PVF YouTube channel

1058
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So lots to watch this week, take in a little bit of everything

1059
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And we will be back here to talk about all those matches next week

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For men's NCAA, whenever you have an MPSF school playing, those are all shown on Big Ten Plus

1061
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And we've often had success finding them on ESPN Plus too

1062
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That concludes this week's episode of Volley Talk

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There's always something shaking in the volleyball world and we hope you enjoyed this little fix

1064
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1065
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1066
01:09:42,380 --> 01:09:47,380
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1067
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1068
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