1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,040 Hi volleyball fans and welcome back to volley talk the podcast created for volleyball lovers who want to dig deep into what is going on 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,280 In NCAA and international volleyball. I'm your host Sarah pavin 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:18,500 I'm an Olympian beach volleyball world champion former Nebraska corn husker and longtime pro both indoor and on the beach 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:24,820 And I'm Adam Schultz former indoor player international volleyball coach and the resident show stat guy 5 00:00:24,820 --> 00:00:29,700 It has been a slow week because of holiday season obviously 6 00:00:30,300 --> 00:00:37,620 And we hope that all of you had a wonderful celebration as we prepared a transition into the next set of volleyball seasons 7 00:00:37,620 --> 00:00:41,340 We wanted to dive in to see what has been going on in the transfer portal 8 00:00:41,660 --> 00:00:48,140 Answer some listener questions and have a little bit of fun after the craziness of the NCAA women's tournament 9 00:00:48,140 --> 00:00:55,020 With some of Adam's games my favorite. Let's get started 10 00:01:05,820 --> 00:01:11,740 So the major buzz around the volleyball world currently has been what is going on in the transfer portal as the 11 00:01:11,980 --> 00:01:16,820 NCAA season has wrapped up. We've been following along and taking a look at what's happened 12 00:01:16,820 --> 00:01:20,420 So we're gonna break this down into a few different sections as we get into it 13 00:01:20,420 --> 00:01:28,540 So we'll have biggest news when we'll talk about some specific players what's happened and then we'll talk about the biggest program poachers and 14 00:01:30,020 --> 00:01:35,020 The biggest losers it really makes you wonder why so many people left a program 15 00:01:35,300 --> 00:01:40,940 So let's get started and hop right in keep in mind the biggest news is like biggest news 16 00:01:40,940 --> 00:01:50,460 According to Adam and I so not everybody will agree or we probably missed something that you think is very important 17 00:01:50,460 --> 00:01:57,980 But in our research, these are the things that popped out. So let's start with Purdue who had a pretty good season 18 00:01:58,500 --> 00:02:06,780 They've lost four players. So both starting outsides a starting middle and their opposite have all left 19 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:10,140 Clearly something is going on in that program 20 00:02:10,140 --> 00:02:17,420 We don't have the details but you have Eva Hudson and Lizzie Carr both going to Kentucky 21 00:02:17,820 --> 00:02:25,340 You have Chloe Chacon heading to Louisville and Lourdes Meyer is still uncommitted, but that's a lot of players to lose 22 00:02:25,540 --> 00:02:27,620 That's a lot of starters to lose 23 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:30,500 So there's setter 24 00:02:30,940 --> 00:02:33,140 Anderson, I believe she was just a sophomore 25 00:02:33,940 --> 00:02:36,420 Raven Colvin obviously was a senior 26 00:02:36,420 --> 00:02:42,420 I'm not sure what class their libero was in but you're looking at 27 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:52,180 Potentially five remaining starters and four left. So that to me strikes as something's not quite right 28 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:55,140 With the program or in the locker room 29 00:02:55,860 --> 00:03:01,940 Normally, you don't see so many starters leave after a success a successful year 30 00:03:01,940 --> 00:03:06,260 I mean sweet 16 then they got trounced by Louisville 31 00:03:07,060 --> 00:03:15,860 That's a fair point but for Purdue given the athletes that they have I think that they finished about where they should finish 32 00:03:16,340 --> 00:03:24,900 Yeah, and I feel like if you commit to Purdue you're you understand where you are. You would think like they're not a top five program 33 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:31,860 So I'm very curious as to what is happening not to mention their assistant coach left 34 00:03:32,660 --> 00:03:38,500 Midseason last season so something is in the water in Purdue very interesting stuff 35 00:03:38,820 --> 00:03:46,020 What do you think about Eva Hudson going to Kentucky and Chacon going to Louisville? I think that's a case of 36 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:53,900 Both of them believing they're better than the program or thinking or like being like no, we want to win. Peace 37 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:55,900 Yeah, that's definitely possible 38 00:03:55,900 --> 00:03:58,940 But that goes back to my question of like what did you think you were getting into in Purdue? 39 00:03:58,940 --> 00:04:02,460 Like if you had made an elite eight, is that better? 40 00:04:03,020 --> 00:04:07,420 Well, I think you're not I'm sorry Purdue is not a final four type of program 41 00:04:08,540 --> 00:04:11,820 Consistently they might have a year here and there where they're really good 42 00:04:11,820 --> 00:04:16,860 But like I don't think they're like the perennial final four type of 43 00:04:17,660 --> 00:04:22,220 Team. Oh, I think that's an accurate assessment. I think a lot of players 44 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:27,660 Now with the transfer portal who maybe aren't top recruits go. I'm going to go to a decent program 45 00:04:28,140 --> 00:04:34,540 I'm going to play one year and get recognized and then I want to go to a Nebraska Kentucky 46 00:04:35,180 --> 00:04:37,820 Final four edge team and they're not 47 00:04:38,380 --> 00:04:42,460 Willing to stay and help build a program. There's no loyalty 48 00:04:42,460 --> 00:04:44,380 I mean, we're going to talk about this a little bit later in the show 49 00:04:44,380 --> 00:04:46,700 So I'm not going to get into it, but I think that's the case 50 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:52,460 I mean both Louisville and Kentucky lost senior outside so they're essentially 51 00:04:52,940 --> 00:04:59,100 Being given an opportunity to walk in and earn a spot. So I don't know I have very been 52 00:04:59,820 --> 00:05:04,620 I have very distinct opinions about the transfer portal. We'll get into it another 53 00:05:05,580 --> 00:05:08,700 Very interesting move in my opinion 54 00:05:09,580 --> 00:05:13,660 Was the starting setter for Texas Avery Carlson 55 00:05:13,660 --> 00:05:15,900 Entered the portal now 56 00:05:16,460 --> 00:05:19,340 She went to Texas from Baylor 57 00:05:20,060 --> 00:05:25,340 And then was part of the whole 6-2 situation that Texas had going on and actually won out the 58 00:05:25,340 --> 00:05:28,380 Five-one spot when they made that switch in October November 59 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:33,660 Yeah, I'm sorry. You're not going to transfer once but twice 60 00:05:34,460 --> 00:05:40,060 Oh my gosh. Okay, Texas lost five players total, which honestly is not that's not the shocking part to me 61 00:05:40,060 --> 00:05:43,340 Because they just like stack their roster and of course 62 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:48,620 Everybody thinks they're going to be a big star at a top program and then when they're not they're like bye 63 00:05:49,020 --> 00:05:55,340 The shocking part is that they have not picked up anybody from the portal yet and they are usually scooping 64 00:05:56,060 --> 00:05:59,740 They're usually waiting until a like a shock athlete comes out 65 00:06:00,380 --> 00:06:03,260 And then just like tries to snag them them in Nebraska 66 00:06:03,820 --> 00:06:06,940 So I have a thought about picking up players from the portal 67 00:06:06,940 --> 00:06:10,620 From a coach's standpoint that we'll get into later, but I think it might be in effect here 68 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:14,700 Oh, you're going to keep us hanging. Okay, very curious about that 69 00:06:15,260 --> 00:06:17,260 Looks like Ellis Wendell's got her job back 70 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:24,460 I mean the the setting in Texas was a question mark all year you come out on top 71 00:06:24,460 --> 00:06:29,420 I don't know whether it's just you're losing hitters and you don't think you're going to be successful or 72 00:06:29,660 --> 00:06:33,660 Didn't get along with your teammates after everything that happened or the coaches 73 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:37,820 Told you you're playing a 6-2 again after you won the spot leave. There's so many things that it could be there 74 00:06:37,820 --> 00:06:43,100 But it is surprising. I agree with you. Maybe she just thinks that they're gonna suck. They lost Rutherford. They lost Skinner 75 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:46,460 They lost Wenis. I believe I mean, okay 76 00:06:46,940 --> 00:06:50,780 So many issues are coming up that I do not like but okay 77 00:06:51,260 --> 00:06:54,860 This one makes me really sad. This one hurts. Yeah 78 00:06:55,580 --> 00:06:58,300 Ohio State lost four players 79 00:06:59,020 --> 00:07:00,060 including 80 00:07:00,060 --> 00:07:04,780 Emi Selman who's going to Penn State and middle blocker Eloise Brandway 81 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:10,460 Who is going to Creighton now you and I talked about this a few times on the podcast 82 00:07:10,940 --> 00:07:18,620 I thought Ohio State had an incredibly bright future. I enjoyed watching them. They had a ton of young players 83 00:07:19,180 --> 00:07:20,940 You could see them 84 00:07:20,940 --> 00:07:24,460 Put strings of points together and see man 85 00:07:24,460 --> 00:07:27,420 They're gonna be so good when they mature and come together 86 00:07:27,420 --> 00:07:30,460 And figure it out and find some consistency 87 00:07:30,780 --> 00:07:35,500 And I know they had some bad losses and it's never easy to go through a season 88 00:07:36,060 --> 00:07:39,580 You know where you probably want to win more games than you do 89 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:45,580 But that core could have been something special in my opinion and for them to jump ship 90 00:07:46,380 --> 00:07:49,660 this early for greener pastures this to me is 91 00:07:50,380 --> 00:07:54,860 The major problem with the portal and it's for me the major problem with 92 00:07:54,860 --> 00:08:00,940 Young athletes today. Yeah, this one was very disappointing to me. I have so much respect for a coach who's willing to 93 00:08:01,740 --> 00:08:08,780 Build a program from the ground up and who won't just cop out and take more developed or experienced players 94 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:13,020 To have an easier path to to success 95 00:08:13,020 --> 00:08:18,700 So I was so excited when I saw this roster earlier in the season and yeah, were they good? 96 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:21,260 Not really, but they had moments of brilliance 97 00:08:21,260 --> 00:08:28,060 And so you I really believe that they would be able to to build something and to see this it just 98 00:08:28,380 --> 00:08:30,380 it makes me so upset for 99 00:08:30,940 --> 00:08:33,340 Jen olden jen flinn oldenburg because 100 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:36,940 What do you do? You do all the right things and 101 00:08:38,060 --> 00:08:42,300 There's no loyalty. I feel for the coaches in these situations for sure 102 00:08:43,020 --> 00:08:45,020 Miami is losing six players 103 00:08:45,580 --> 00:08:48,140 One is a grad student, but 104 00:08:48,140 --> 00:08:53,900 They're two biggest point scores in grace lopez and floor marie. Eridia colon 105 00:08:54,940 --> 00:08:59,740 Lopez is going to wisconsin and colon is currently uncommitted 106 00:09:00,780 --> 00:09:02,780 That is going to decimate 107 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:09,420 That program and this is another program that had some really good wins this season 108 00:09:09,420 --> 00:09:12,940 They had some big upsets against ranked teams 109 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:16,540 They were five points ahead of the other teams 110 00:09:16,540 --> 00:09:20,860 They were fun to watch play. I don't understand 111 00:09:21,340 --> 00:09:24,780 It's not going to be good down in coral gables. Let me tell you 112 00:09:25,260 --> 00:09:29,980 Those two scored so many points for that team and we talked about how bad their serve receive was like 113 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:32,540 So those two were hitting a lot of out of system ball 114 00:09:33,260 --> 00:09:35,260 That's that's got to hurt 115 00:09:35,580 --> 00:09:39,980 yeah, I hope that they're able to pick up a couple players from the portal and just 116 00:09:40,780 --> 00:09:42,780 Keep it going because that's 117 00:09:42,780 --> 00:09:49,660 Like you said it does it decimates the program you have to start over essentially when you lose players like that and you're not 118 00:09:49,820 --> 00:09:55,740 Expecting to and here's the thing for me is like i'll use these two players as an example. It's like 119 00:09:56,220 --> 00:09:58,220 Yeah, you are a star 120 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:00,380 at miami 121 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,600 Basically, like you 122 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:04,700 Were the go-to players 123 00:10:05,020 --> 00:10:10,300 You came up big in some big matches like you were the stars and I think and I don't want to say that 124 00:10:10,300 --> 00:10:14,860 This is what their thought process is but the impression that I get from a lot of athletes 125 00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:21,900 Who maybe aren't in top programs or you know are on the bench at a top program or something is just like no 126 00:10:21,980 --> 00:10:23,900 I'm better than this 127 00:10:23,900 --> 00:10:28,860 Like look how good I was this year at this program like I can for sure play for a top 128 00:10:29,820 --> 00:10:34,460 10 program or whatever and it's like not everybody is cut out for that and like 129 00:10:34,460 --> 00:10:41,260 Maybe you are a big fish in a medium-sized pond here, but like you're about to be in a big pond 130 00:10:42,140 --> 00:10:47,180 I'm grace lopez is going to struggle in the big. I don't think she's a big 10 opposite 131 00:10:47,260 --> 00:10:53,020 I do not I mean look who you're putting her up against in what division and you are going to have to score 132 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:58,060 Against great blockers and good defenses night in and night out 133 00:10:58,460 --> 00:11:01,580 This is the dichotomy for athletes where you think 134 00:11:02,220 --> 00:11:04,060 you're a 135 00:11:04,060 --> 00:11:09,820 but really when you play against great players night in and night out your b and and that and the reality is probably somewhere in the 136 00:11:09,820 --> 00:11:11,820 middle and 137 00:11:12,140 --> 00:11:17,820 Switching programs to learn that lesson hurts a lot of people. I think it's a completely different set of 138 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,420 Expectations to be on a wisconsin versus a miami. It's just fact 139 00:11:23,980 --> 00:11:28,220 When you are at a top program the expectations are different 140 00:11:28,860 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaking of grace lopez going to wisconsin 141 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:36,180 Wisconsin lost both their backup ds slash liberos 142 00:11:36,820 --> 00:11:40,180 Guchtiken is heading to tennessee and damerow is off to creighton 143 00:11:40,980 --> 00:11:42,180 which 144 00:11:42,180 --> 00:11:47,700 Is kind of surprising given that they both saw playing time this year due to injury 145 00:11:48,900 --> 00:11:54,660 I'm kind of scratching my head with this one wondering if it's just about playing time or if there was some 146 00:11:55,540 --> 00:12:00,020 Losing a lot of players in the dressing room not sure where it's going to go thinking. They're not going to play 147 00:12:00,020 --> 00:12:03,860 I couldn't quite reason my way through these these two for me 148 00:12:04,420 --> 00:12:11,700 It's one of two things either you graduated your entire roster pretty much and you're like we're gonna suck i'm getting out of here 149 00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:13,620 or 150 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:14,580 you 151 00:12:14,580 --> 00:12:16,900 The writing is on the wall and you want to play 152 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:22,180 And you know with a current freshman libero. You're probably not going to 153 00:12:22,820 --> 00:12:27,060 My question to creighton is did you watch any matches that wisconsin played? 154 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:31,220 When damro was the libero and how many times she got ace like did you watch? 155 00:12:31,860 --> 00:12:34,340 Yeah, but she's going to be great in that division 156 00:12:34,820 --> 00:12:41,780 She's going she for creighton during the season is going to be just fine and probably exactly what they need 157 00:12:42,340 --> 00:12:43,380 if 158 00:12:43,380 --> 00:12:47,780 They go deep in the tournament though, and she has not settled into 159 00:12:48,820 --> 00:12:54,980 Looking at big 10 serves it's it's going to be tough for creighton. I think bet on yourself. I guess 160 00:12:54,980 --> 00:12:56,980 Bet on yourself, I guess 161 00:12:56,980 --> 00:13:04,020 Finally aya el nati from kansas is heading to northwestern and I need somebody to clarify this for me because 162 00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:08,100 How are these grad students still able to play? 163 00:13:08,660 --> 00:13:12,420 Like have they not used up four years of eligibility like I am so 164 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,740 Confused about this. I thought el nati was a senior 165 00:13:17,300 --> 00:13:20,820 I thought she played all four seasons. I maybe i'm wrong 166 00:13:20,820 --> 00:13:27,860 But it's like a question I have in general is like I thought the extra year like with covet and stuff was done now 167 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:29,780 I mean this is 168 00:13:30,420 --> 00:13:35,540 Academic reasons I have to imagine northwestern has a very good academic reputation 169 00:13:35,540 --> 00:13:38,020 What i'm saying like how is she able to go play there? 170 00:13:38,020 --> 00:13:41,780 No, I understand that I don't the rules don't make sense to me at this point either 171 00:13:41,780 --> 00:13:48,180 I thought the somebody tell us are the covet years done are they allowed a fifth year still because like I don't get it 172 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:54,020 I don't get it this one. I have no problem with she she graduated. She wants to do a master's. It's a great school 173 00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:57,540 She can keep playing. All right onto the biggest poachers 174 00:13:58,420 --> 00:14:04,020 I don't think anybody is going to be shocked to hear that smu has already picked up five players from the portal 175 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:10,100 Continuing their streak of recruiting almost exclusively from the portal 176 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:19,220 Um jaden livings in favor on yanwu from usc and malaya jones from colorado state are their biggest pickups so far 177 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:21,700 but 178 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:23,700 I'm sorry 179 00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:30,740 If i'm a parent or if I am a high school student athlete getting recruited by smu. I'm like 180 00:14:31,700 --> 00:14:33,700 No, thank you 181 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:35,700 because clearly 182 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:38,580 You are incapable of developing your own athletes 183 00:14:38,580 --> 00:14:45,540 Last year their entire roster was grad students taken from the portal and now they're continuing the same thing like 184 00:14:46,660 --> 00:14:48,660 Red flag alert 185 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:56,580 Yeah, and I think from a coaching standpoint when you started a school you have to go through your recruiting class pulling in 186 00:14:56,900 --> 00:15:02,420 Portal players make sense. You want to build your name. You need to have some success to recruit players 187 00:15:02,420 --> 00:15:08,980 But at some point you have to trust your own ability to develop to recruit and to put a winning product on the floor 188 00:15:09,540 --> 00:15:11,140 and 189 00:15:11,140 --> 00:15:17,460 Smu had a great regular season last year. They were polished. They beat some good teams 190 00:15:17,940 --> 00:15:22,500 But there is something to be said about playing with athletes for more than one year 191 00:15:22,900 --> 00:15:25,540 when the chips are down and things get tough and 192 00:15:26,260 --> 00:15:28,900 You saw that in the tournament 193 00:15:29,860 --> 00:15:31,860 They underperformed 194 00:15:31,860 --> 00:15:37,300 And you can't blame it solely on having transfer players, but I think that's a big factor 195 00:15:37,620 --> 00:15:41,860 Well with such a huge turnover all the time. Like how are you supposed to develop? 196 00:15:42,580 --> 00:15:44,580 a consistent team culture 197 00:15:45,220 --> 00:15:48,500 How are you supposed to develop a consistent team identity? 198 00:15:49,140 --> 00:15:50,260 like 199 00:15:50,260 --> 00:15:51,780 in the past 200 00:15:51,780 --> 00:15:55,940 You would be in a program most players would stay in the same program for four years 201 00:15:56,340 --> 00:15:59,300 And as the young players came in they were taught 202 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:02,820 That you know, this is what we do. This is who we are 203 00:16:03,140 --> 00:16:10,020 This is what the team values and like sure you make tweaks to it every year. But when you're having a complete 204 00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:15,140 your cleaning house every year, how do you establish like 205 00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:24,100 What your program is like from an identity and culture perspective? It's it's no good and I will say from a coaching standpoint 206 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:30,900 You help shape the culture but you need your senior athletes who have been with you for three four years 207 00:16:31,140 --> 00:16:37,220 Who understand what you want to be a voice in the room for you? You have to develop those relationships 208 00:16:37,460 --> 00:16:40,340 I don't care how good of a coach you are. It's a 209 00:16:41,140 --> 00:16:45,540 symbiotic relationship with your senior players and you know you come in as a freshman and 210 00:16:46,500 --> 00:16:51,540 You got a little swagger and you got a little attitude and you want this and sometimes you need a vet to sit you down and say 211 00:16:51,540 --> 00:16:58,340 Listen kid, this isn't how it works and every top athlete has gone through that experience and you need it. It's part of your development 212 00:16:59,380 --> 00:17:01,940 I don't know. I'm gonna stick by it like 213 00:17:02,580 --> 00:17:07,540 Prove to me that you know how to coach prove to me that you know how to like 214 00:17:08,180 --> 00:17:11,860 Build a team and develop players because right now i'm not buying it 215 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:16,580 We see auburn following in smu's footsteps 216 00:17:16,580 --> 00:17:21,620 They lost two athletes this year, but picked up six be interesting to see how they do next year 217 00:17:21,620 --> 00:17:26,020 They're like, oh look at what this did for smu. They were ranked all season 218 00:17:26,020 --> 00:17:32,180 They were the only team to beat number one and two seeds blah blah blah. Like let's do it. Let's don't do it 219 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:40,260 And finally creighton didn't lose anybody to the portal but they snatched up three athletes 220 00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:45,220 Including eloise brandwe from ohio state and sage dame 221 00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:47,460 From wisconsin as we talked about earlier 222 00:17:48,420 --> 00:17:52,020 Yeah, they did they did some stealing not sharing 223 00:17:53,540 --> 00:17:58,740 Well, and the other thing for the portal for me is and there's no way to regulate this and I totally understand 224 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:05,300 It's one thing if a player reaches out to you and says hey, can I come play for your program? 225 00:18:06,260 --> 00:18:08,260 It's another thing to actively 226 00:18:08,980 --> 00:18:13,140 Try and grab athletes in my opinion and I know there's no 227 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:15,140 right or wrong or there's no 228 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:20,660 Way to police that but that's just a a personal philosophy. I would say no 229 00:18:20,660 --> 00:18:24,740 We're not saying that creighton did this but I was surprised because they have had 230 00:18:25,700 --> 00:18:28,340 obviously, they've taken transfer players in the past, but 231 00:18:29,620 --> 00:18:32,100 They've been steadily rising year over year and 232 00:18:33,140 --> 00:18:35,140 Yeah, interesting 233 00:18:35,140 --> 00:18:41,700 So florida state loses six total players one grad including their starting libero emery dupes and their starting 234 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:47,060 Setter kena felon dupes is heading to pit and felon is heading to illinois 235 00:18:47,780 --> 00:18:51,380 The majority of their starters were seniors last season. So 236 00:18:52,580 --> 00:18:54,580 That's maybe not shocking 237 00:18:54,580 --> 00:18:56,900 I don't know. I mean six is a lot 238 00:18:57,380 --> 00:18:59,380 Because then you have to think like 239 00:18:59,620 --> 00:19:02,500 Okay, maybe those six would have stepped into the starting role 240 00:19:02,980 --> 00:19:08,100 So now is the starting role not enough and now you need to be a part of you need to be a starter on a successful team 241 00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:10,100 Well, guess what positions are limited 242 00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:16,340 So i'm not shocked that the two remaining starters chose to leave but I am surprised about the other ones 243 00:19:17,220 --> 00:19:18,580 we 244 00:19:18,580 --> 00:19:26,420 Something is in the water in the rest of these places because these schools were just burning athletes like they're like see you later 245 00:19:27,140 --> 00:19:29,140 virginia tech lost seven 246 00:19:29,780 --> 00:19:31,780 memphis lost eight 247 00:19:32,260 --> 00:19:34,260 That's like almost a whole team 248 00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:37,260 charleston southern lost seven cal state full of 249 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:42,580 charleston southern lost seven cal state fullerton lost seven rider lost six 250 00:19:43,220 --> 00:19:47,540 georgia state lost six marshal lost six old dominion lost six 251 00:19:48,340 --> 00:19:50,340 There's there's a problem here 252 00:19:50,660 --> 00:19:53,460 Well for some of those lower ranked schools 253 00:19:54,580 --> 00:20:00,260 I think athletes use it as a stepping stone as well now losing a whole roster is one thing 254 00:20:00,740 --> 00:20:02,740 but I think there's probably 255 00:20:02,740 --> 00:20:08,980 A mix of I think I can play for a better program and maybe something going on with the team 256 00:20:10,180 --> 00:20:12,660 And then the last one that we're going to mention 257 00:20:13,620 --> 00:20:15,620 that might be 258 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:17,540 something 259 00:20:17,540 --> 00:20:19,540 That we haven't talked about yet 260 00:20:19,620 --> 00:20:24,920 Is that san jose state lost seven for those people who haven't been following? 261 00:20:25,460 --> 00:20:30,180 What's happening san jose state had a transgender athlete playing for them? 262 00:20:30,180 --> 00:20:36,340 Who I believe is going to be a senior this coming season don't quote me on that, but I think maybe and 263 00:20:36,980 --> 00:20:43,140 There was a lot of talk a lot of controversy as this is kind of an ongoing issue in 264 00:20:43,780 --> 00:20:49,220 One a lot of teams forfeited. Yeah against them. So it's it's a tough 265 00:20:50,020 --> 00:20:52,020 situation to navigate 266 00:20:52,340 --> 00:20:58,660 I would imagine it's even harder for the athletes and the coaches and the athletic staff at san jose state 267 00:20:58,660 --> 00:21:05,620 So it'll be interesting to see if they can feel the team if people are willing to play there and how that is going to play out 268 00:21:06,340 --> 00:21:08,340 like we are not going to 269 00:21:09,220 --> 00:21:14,900 Weigh in with our opinion on the issue at all, but I can see the fact that so many 270 00:21:15,780 --> 00:21:21,540 Teams forfeited against them is probably incredibly frustrating like as a young athlete you want 271 00:21:22,260 --> 00:21:24,260 to play you want to compete 272 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:31,060 and to not be able to because I mean of choices and value systems and beliefs 273 00:21:31,620 --> 00:21:37,060 From different programs like that was probably tough for for a lot of the people on that team 274 00:21:37,940 --> 00:21:40,260 So yeah, that one was interesting 275 00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:47,140 Obviously the transfer portal is still open for a little bit of time and there's another transfer window in the spring 276 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,460 But this is what we've seen so far 277 00:21:49,460 --> 00:21:57,380 We will keep our eyes on this as other things develop as players commit. We'll try and keep you guys updated on on what's going on 278 00:21:58,420 --> 00:22:00,900 We're going to dive into some listener questions now 279 00:22:01,540 --> 00:22:07,620 We have answered some here and there in recent episodes, but we wanted to have a section where we just 280 00:22:08,340 --> 00:22:13,860 Answer a whole bunch. So thank you to everybody who submitted questions or 281 00:22:13,860 --> 00:22:20,260 Have been engaging with us on youtube and social media. Um, the first one is 282 00:22:21,060 --> 00:22:28,100 What are your thoughts on nil and the transfer portal and how do you think you would have interacted with them as a student athlete? 283 00:22:29,460 --> 00:22:31,460 Simple answer. I hate both of them 284 00:22:33,060 --> 00:22:38,100 Well, I think it's a little more nuanced for me I have no problem with nil for the athletes 285 00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:40,820 I think college sports makes a ton of money 286 00:22:40,820 --> 00:22:45,060 I think that the athletes they are getting a free education. I 287 00:22:45,620 --> 00:22:50,500 totally see the value in that but if somebody wants to sponsor them and 288 00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:53,380 they want to use their social media or 289 00:22:54,180 --> 00:22:59,460 Whatever else they have to generate a little revenue for themselves. I don't think there's anything wrong with that 290 00:22:59,940 --> 00:23:06,180 I don't like buying players to go to colleges, which is something that is happening with the nil 291 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:15,300 So I think there needs to be some guardrails around that but players who are good and who have a presence and who can monetize that 292 00:23:15,300 --> 00:23:17,620 Should be able to that's my stand on the nil 293 00:23:18,580 --> 00:23:23,540 Maybe my distaste for the nil has to do with me missing out on the nil 294 00:23:25,540 --> 00:23:29,860 I'm not bitter at all. Don't worry about it. Um, I think 295 00:23:30,660 --> 00:23:35,380 You know so many college athletes are making more money than they are 296 00:23:35,380 --> 00:23:39,940 Making more than pro athletes and for me, that's an issue 297 00:23:40,900 --> 00:23:42,740 I don't I think 298 00:23:42,740 --> 00:23:49,620 It is fine within reason. I just think it has gone to these extremes and at the end of the day like 299 00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:54,980 Some of these are kids and they are very young adults like trust me 300 00:23:55,060 --> 00:23:59,460 I understand that I went to a school where student athletes are put on a pedestal 301 00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:02,020 I am fully aware of that 302 00:24:02,020 --> 00:24:03,940 It is unfair 303 00:24:03,940 --> 00:24:06,020 when to adam's point about 304 00:24:06,580 --> 00:24:12,660 Schools buying players with nil money like it just creates such a big discrepancy back when there were 305 00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:16,980 Strict scholarship limits. It was just a really sneaky way to like 306 00:24:17,620 --> 00:24:21,540 Avoid it and I don't I don't like it like when I was a student athlete 307 00:24:21,940 --> 00:24:28,580 I valued education very much and so for me knowing how expensive an american 308 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,220 Post-secondary education is I felt like it was a fair trade 309 00:24:33,220 --> 00:24:35,220 I felt grateful 310 00:24:35,940 --> 00:24:37,060 that 311 00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:43,540 I was being given an opportunity to have get an education and leave college debt free 312 00:24:43,780 --> 00:24:47,540 In exchange for my skills as a volleyball player. I felt like that was fair 313 00:24:47,860 --> 00:24:51,060 But I understand that not everybody has the same values as I do 314 00:24:51,140 --> 00:24:56,500 So from where i'm standing, it's really hard for me to get behind nal because I know what is important to me 315 00:24:56,660 --> 00:25:01,060 But it's not like that for everybody transfer portal. I hate it 316 00:25:01,060 --> 00:25:03,060 I think it is 317 00:25:03,140 --> 00:25:11,060 Killing college sports. I think you know with the transfer portal. It is a microcosm of what we have seen in just this 318 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:19,060 generation of athletes and of human beings in general. It's just obviously there are 319 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:26,820 Scenarios where a transfer is necessary back when I played there were people who transferred it didn't happen nearly as much as it does now 320 00:25:26,820 --> 00:25:31,220 But it did happen and that's very personal to individual athletes 321 00:25:31,220 --> 00:25:35,060 But I think when it becomes a me me me thing 322 00:25:35,140 --> 00:25:41,220 I think we've completely lost the essence of what it means to be on a team what it means 323 00:25:41,780 --> 00:25:46,180 To be resilient and to work hard what it means to be loyal 324 00:25:46,820 --> 00:25:48,820 And do what you say you're going to do 325 00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:53,060 I think there are so many big pieces that are 326 00:25:53,060 --> 00:26:00,820 Are completely thrown away with how easy it is to get out of a situation and I feel like college sports 327 00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:05,540 used to be such a pure thing 328 00:26:06,340 --> 00:26:12,180 Where you are going to battle with your closest friends people that you are 329 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,220 Experiencing the transition into adulthood with and you're there for each other 330 00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:22,340 You are not making money you're you're doing it for the love of the game and for the love of each other 331 00:26:22,340 --> 00:26:25,140 So if you're not doing those two functions at the same time 332 00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:28,260 You know, just in the context of being in high school playing 333 00:26:28,740 --> 00:26:34,020 And being able to understand them like division 334 00:26:34,420 --> 00:26:36,580 I'm in high school playing 335 00:26:40,260 --> 00:26:42,820 I've had to go back a few footballs 336 00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:45,700 And a retreat 337 00:26:47,540 --> 00:26:49,540 I went to military school 338 00:26:49,540 --> 00:26:55,780 am, if I was on the bench, I would use that as motivation to get better and to earn the 339 00:26:55,780 --> 00:27:02,700 spot because then it becomes so much sweeter when you know that you've worked hard to achieve 340 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:04,740 something that you want. 341 00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:11,480 And that's the danger and the gray area of sports is you want to play. 342 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,480 That's human nature. 343 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,480 You want to be on the court. 344 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,960 You want to play. 345 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,640 But then having that inter squad competition of pushing each other and making each other 346 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,220 better and being happy for your teammates successes while also pushing for your own 347 00:27:24,220 --> 00:27:25,220 personal ones. 348 00:27:25,220 --> 00:27:30,620 Like it is such an interesting balance and I think we're completely losing that as athletes 349 00:27:30,620 --> 00:27:34,900 become so much more me focused. 350 00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:41,460 And I will give a shout out to Kennedy or from Nebraska because here is a setter who 351 00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:43,340 is obviously very good. 352 00:27:43,340 --> 00:27:49,980 She was recruited by Nebraska and she sat on the bench her entire career and she stayed 353 00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:51,460 and she was a teammate. 354 00:27:51,460 --> 00:27:56,540 And because you know what, like sure seven players get to have the spotlight on them 355 00:27:56,540 --> 00:28:01,540 on game day, but those seven players don't get better without the seven that they're 356 00:28:01,540 --> 00:28:04,140 competing against every day. 357 00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:11,700 And for her to stay despite never being a starter, like that is a teammate to me. 358 00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:15,420 That's what being an athlete and being on a team means. 359 00:28:15,420 --> 00:28:21,300 And I think from a coach's perspective, it makes things much more challenging. 360 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:26,400 Sometimes you have to look at your athletes and tell them that wasn't good enough or have 361 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:32,720 hard conversations or push them into uncomfortable places at practice for them to get to where 362 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,660 they want to go. 363 00:28:34,660 --> 00:28:40,760 And now I can only imagine as a college coach, you're thinking if I push too hard, is this 364 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,220 athlete going to leave? 365 00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:43,900 Are they having fun? 366 00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:46,680 Are they, do they like me? 367 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,060 You know, all of those things and don't get me wrong, there needs to be a balance. 368 00:28:51,060 --> 00:28:56,060 It's not a dictatorship, but the fact of it is as a coach, you're developing the player 369 00:28:56,060 --> 00:28:59,500 and the person and sometimes they're not going to like you. 370 00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:00,920 That's you doing your job. 371 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:07,380 And I think with the ease of transferring now, you have to walk a very thin line in 372 00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:11,860 terms of making your players happy, but also trying to push them to be better. 373 00:29:11,860 --> 00:29:15,060 And I think that that is probably incredibly difficult. 374 00:29:15,060 --> 00:29:19,160 Adam and I know a young athlete at a top program. 375 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,820 She is not a starting player. 376 00:29:21,820 --> 00:29:30,700 And we heard from this player that their coach basically only works with the starters or 377 00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:36,340 the people, the eight people who consistently play and does not engage with the other players 378 00:29:36,340 --> 00:29:37,580 at all. 379 00:29:37,580 --> 00:29:43,700 And it's shocking to hear that as an athlete because my instinct is, well, doesn't he want 380 00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:48,660 to develop the athletes to replace the ones that are going to be lost to graduation? 381 00:29:48,660 --> 00:29:51,040 But then it's also like, why? 382 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,820 But I can understand in this day and age, why would this coach waste his time on the 383 00:29:55,820 --> 00:30:00,180 players who aren't playing because they'll probably leave anyway. 384 00:30:00,180 --> 00:30:02,860 Like that is how messed up this whole thing is. 385 00:30:02,860 --> 00:30:08,820 We've just completely taken away the best parts of being on a team. 386 00:30:08,820 --> 00:30:13,340 So Adam, another question we got was, what is the difference between an outside hitter 387 00:30:13,340 --> 00:30:15,500 and an opposite hitter? 388 00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:16,500 That's a great question. 389 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:19,460 So generally there are two outside hitters. 390 00:30:19,460 --> 00:30:24,620 They play on the left side of the court and only one opposite because they're in the position 391 00:30:24,620 --> 00:30:26,300 with the center. 392 00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:34,340 And so 90% of the time you will see the outside hitters passing and hitting. 393 00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:37,740 And so the two outside hitters, regardless of whether they're in the front row or the 394 00:30:37,740 --> 00:30:43,220 back row, along with the libero, generally form the core of your passing team. 395 00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:45,400 And then they also hit when they're in the front row. 396 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,700 The opposite is generally your point score. 397 00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:57,340 They're usually your biggest athlete with the heaviest arm and they may or may not have 398 00:30:57,340 --> 00:30:59,660 the best ball control. 399 00:30:59,660 --> 00:31:05,560 Their primary responsibility is to score points and generally get you out of trouble. 400 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,740 They hit a lot of high balls. 401 00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:08,380 They hit a lot of out of system balls. 402 00:31:08,380 --> 00:31:10,540 They generally have a very good serve. 403 00:31:10,540 --> 00:31:13,260 It's your quote unquote power player. 404 00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:18,740 And then if you hear the term pin hitter, that is like an all encompassing term for 405 00:31:18,740 --> 00:31:24,260 the outsides and the opposites because they're the two hitters that hit near the antennas. 406 00:31:24,260 --> 00:31:28,900 If we're talking about player stereotypes, generally outside hitters, you have two different 407 00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:34,460 types, one who can score you more points and then another one who maybe has better ball 408 00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:35,460 control. 409 00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:40,540 So you very often see the better ball control outside hitter and the libero passing, you 410 00:31:40,540 --> 00:31:44,780 know, three quarters of the court and then another outside hitter passing a sliver. 411 00:31:44,780 --> 00:31:51,000 There's different ways that teams can build with outside hitter strengths and weaknesses, 412 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,020 but that's the general overview. 413 00:31:53,020 --> 00:31:59,660 The next question we got is, would you like to see more parity in the NCAA game? 414 00:31:59,660 --> 00:32:02,100 This is a very good question. 415 00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:09,300 And I believe the person who asked this was getting to the essence of if there is more 416 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:16,900 parity, you will see the stronger teams kind of take a little drop in their level while 417 00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:19,860 the lower ranked teams increase theirs. 418 00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:25,140 I think when you talk about parity in terms of the team's competition level, you're always 419 00:32:25,140 --> 00:32:28,200 going to have teams that are at the top and teams that are at the bottom. 420 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,580 There's not a whole lot you can do about that. 421 00:32:31,580 --> 00:32:37,800 You're going to have some coaches who get the best out of athletes at this age and some 422 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,060 who don't or maybe better suited for a professional or a club team. 423 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:48,980 And so there's no real way to facilitate parity in my mind because you're always going to 424 00:32:48,980 --> 00:32:52,980 have groups of good athletes who want to go and do something special together. 425 00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:57,180 Well, I think the pre-NIL days were as close as you would get. 426 00:32:57,180 --> 00:32:58,180 I would agree. 427 00:32:58,180 --> 00:33:04,900 To that being a reality because when you look like there are so many factors that go into 428 00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:10,780 an athlete selecting a school and there are so many different things that are important 429 00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:13,620 and not important to different people. 430 00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:19,980 So certain programs have given themselves a reputation of being a great place to play 431 00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:25,700 volleyball, but maybe somebody doesn't want to travel that far from home or maybe somebody 432 00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:34,620 doesn't want to live in that city or state or they value their education and it just 433 00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:35,620 won't work out. 434 00:33:35,620 --> 00:33:37,900 Like there are so many pieces that go into it. 435 00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:42,140 So I don't think there ever really is truly parity. 436 00:33:42,140 --> 00:33:46,620 I personally am fine with the level being the way it is. 437 00:33:46,620 --> 00:33:51,820 I would say the one interesting thing being relatively new to following college volleyball 438 00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:53,660 closely. 439 00:33:53,660 --> 00:33:59,500 If you build your program in a mid-major division and you become very competitive, I would have 440 00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:07,220 loved to see Creighton play in the Big Ten, in the ACC this year because they dominated 441 00:34:07,220 --> 00:34:09,020 their league play. 442 00:34:09,020 --> 00:34:13,260 They had however many games of not really being pushed or challenged. 443 00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:17,900 How good could Creighton have been if they got to hone themselves against the best teams 444 00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:19,900 for that part of the season? 445 00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:24,380 That to me is something that would be potentially interesting and create a little more parity. 446 00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:28,940 I know logistically it doesn't work, but when you talk about parity in the game, that's 447 00:34:28,940 --> 00:34:33,140 something that comes to my mind having followed this season relatively closely. 448 00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:41,860 Or maybe instead of just preseason cross conference play, there's this random tournament in the 449 00:34:41,860 --> 00:34:48,900 middle of the season so you can see the teams at close to top form going head to head and 450 00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:52,580 just see where they fall because so many of those matches happen during the preseason 451 00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:54,440 or the NCAA tournament. 452 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,900 There's no in between. 453 00:34:55,900 --> 00:35:00,280 People are either trying to figure things out or it's crunch time. 454 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,740 So that might, it would be interesting to see like a tournament part way through. 455 00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:08,280 But I think another thing to remember is like, I know we've talked a lot about the transfer 456 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:15,640 portal and people wanting to be a big fish in a big pond and win and start and things 457 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,640 like that. 458 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,780 But I think not everybody wants a big college experience. 459 00:35:20,780 --> 00:35:26,820 For a lot of athletes, like getting the opportunity to still be part of a team is enough. 460 00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:30,580 And I know we have kind of taken it to the extreme when we've been talking about the 461 00:35:30,580 --> 00:35:33,500 transfer portal, but and not every athlete is like that. 462 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:38,620 But it's like some athletes know that they have no future in the sport after college 463 00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:43,200 and just the opportunity to set themselves up for their future and get their education 464 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,780 paid for or be a part of a team for another four years. 465 00:35:47,780 --> 00:35:49,620 Like that is enough. 466 00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:55,420 So I think if you bring the parody discussion into it, you would lose so many of those types 467 00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:56,420 of kids. 468 00:35:56,420 --> 00:36:01,980 That was a very long way of saying, no, I don't want to see more parody in the NCAA. 469 00:36:01,980 --> 00:36:04,460 So somebody asked and I thought this was a great question. 470 00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:07,260 What are some of the most challenging places to play? 471 00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:10,340 Oh gosh, I don't know if I could answer this now. 472 00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:13,020 It was a long time ago that I was in college. 473 00:36:13,020 --> 00:36:14,260 Rattle me off your top five. 474 00:36:14,260 --> 00:36:16,900 Oh gosh, I don't even know if I could give you five. 475 00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:22,540 Okay, I think Nebraska is challenging in the sense of it. 476 00:36:22,540 --> 00:36:27,180 It's overwhelming for people who don't experience that day in and day out. 477 00:36:27,180 --> 00:36:29,500 I remember my first red and white game. 478 00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:33,980 It was the inner squad scrimmage when I was a freshman and that was the first time I had 479 00:36:33,980 --> 00:36:36,380 played in front of that many people and my legs were shaking. 480 00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:39,300 I was like 17 and my legs were like shaking and it was a scrimmage. 481 00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:44,960 So if you're coming into an environment like that and they have like tens of thousands 482 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,500 of people, even though it's not a hostile environment, unless you're Wisconsin, no, 483 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:50,500 just kidding. 484 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:55,020 Even though it's not a hostile environment, it's intimidating for somebody who doesn't 485 00:36:55,020 --> 00:36:56,480 see that. 486 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,540 So there's that. 487 00:36:57,540 --> 00:37:01,700 I think the meanest fans when I played were from Missouri. 488 00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:04,580 I hated playing at Missouri. 489 00:37:04,580 --> 00:37:06,280 They were so mean. 490 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,900 They were great hecklers and like looking back, like they were really good burns, but 491 00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:13,780 like they were mean and Texas was mean. 492 00:37:13,780 --> 00:37:15,100 Those were probably the two words. 493 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:19,900 Oh, I heard BYU is, I think BYU leans heavily on their fans. 494 00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:22,600 I think BYU is probably a tough place to play too. 495 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,340 Looking at just some of the matches and facility wise and where it would be challenging, I 496 00:37:26,340 --> 00:37:29,980 think the elevation in Colorado would be tough to play in. 497 00:37:29,980 --> 00:37:36,020 I also think the super low ceiling in Miami, if you're used to playing in a really big 498 00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:42,020 gym and you're digging high and you're looking visually at all of the space around you, going 499 00:37:42,020 --> 00:37:45,420 into that closed environment would take some getting used to. 500 00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:47,340 Playing at elevation is no joke. 501 00:37:47,340 --> 00:37:52,220 So I think that we've hit the majority of questions that I've seen on the channel so 502 00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:53,260 far. 503 00:37:53,260 --> 00:37:56,340 If we haven't answered your question, please send us a message on YouTube. 504 00:37:56,340 --> 00:38:00,580 I'll be looking for them and we'll continue to aggregate questions as the episodes go 505 00:38:00,580 --> 00:38:02,980 on and we'd love to hear from you. 506 00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:05,260 And we have answered some on YouTube too. 507 00:38:05,260 --> 00:38:09,740 So if you didn't hear yours, check your YouTube comments to see if there's been a reply. 508 00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:14,020 But thank you so much to everybody who took the time to write into us. 509 00:38:14,020 --> 00:38:15,180 All right. 510 00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:20,660 Coming up in January, we have both Love and the PVF starting. 511 00:38:20,660 --> 00:38:27,060 PVF will be in their second season and Love is starting with their inaugural season. 512 00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:32,380 Sarah and I looked through all of the rosters for all of the teams that have been posted 513 00:38:32,380 --> 00:38:40,060 thus far and why don't you give me your impression of who's playing in the league, what it's 514 00:38:40,060 --> 00:38:45,200 going to look like, you know, what people can maybe expect going into these seasons. 515 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,220 To be honest, I have no idea what to expect here. 516 00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:55,380 I went through all of the rosters of both leagues. 517 00:38:55,380 --> 00:39:03,420 For Love, you have, you know, the founding athletes, which are current or recently retired 518 00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:05,180 national team athletes. 519 00:39:05,180 --> 00:39:06,460 Big profile athletes. 520 00:39:06,460 --> 00:39:13,100 Big profile athletes, big Team USA, you know, history there. 521 00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:19,780 So I think you're getting a wealth of skill and experience and professionalism from that 522 00:39:19,780 --> 00:39:23,980 core group and there's one to two on each Love team. 523 00:39:23,980 --> 00:39:28,640 We couldn't find anything about foreigner limits for Love. 524 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:34,300 It did seem like there were a lot of foreign athletes. 525 00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:40,500 What we're seeing is foreign athletes who are kind of on the tail end of their career 526 00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:41,500 looking through the names. 527 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:49,060 I played against a lot of them, you know, early in my pro career and I thought they 528 00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:51,980 were on their way out when I was. 529 00:39:51,980 --> 00:39:53,540 We won't mention any names. 530 00:39:53,540 --> 00:39:55,300 But they're not. 531 00:39:55,300 --> 00:40:00,700 So you're seeing some international experience, some foreign professional experience, but 532 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:02,980 a little older. 533 00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:06,380 And then you're seeing new young talent. 534 00:40:06,380 --> 00:40:11,700 We'll get into the quote unquote Love 6 as they're calling them here shortly. 535 00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:17,340 But you have another group of athletes that I don't want anybody to take this the wrong 536 00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:27,340 way, but they have very big social media followings, but maybe have not been in the volleyball 537 00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:32,500 world or in the volleyball spotlight in recent years. 538 00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:33,900 Does that adequately sum it up? 539 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:36,260 Yeah, I think that that adequately sums it up. 540 00:40:36,260 --> 00:40:40,000 And I mean, let's be let's be fair. 541 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,900 These leagues are brand new and starting something is difficult. 542 00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:49,340 And I think having a professional league in North America is a great thing. 543 00:40:49,340 --> 00:40:52,860 Are you going to know having three professional leagues in North America? 544 00:40:52,860 --> 00:40:55,020 But this is how this is how things start. 545 00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:56,020 Right. 546 00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:57,020 And that's okay. 547 00:40:57,020 --> 00:41:00,060 You're not going to get the big international stars. 548 00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:02,560 You're not going to pay enough for them. 549 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,280 You're not an established league. 550 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,900 People don't know what they're getting into. 551 00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:10,660 You have many things you have to do in this first year. 552 00:41:10,660 --> 00:41:12,020 You want people to follow you. 553 00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:15,100 So the social media presence, it does make a difference. 554 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:17,600 You need to put people into the stands. 555 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,420 You want to continue to develop your college level athletes for people who may not want 556 00:41:22,420 --> 00:41:26,200 to play overseas or may not be good enough to do that yet. 557 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,300 You want them to be able to stay in the States. 558 00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:29,600 I get that. 559 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:35,300 So it's an interesting dichotomy of, like you said, young players who are inexperienced 560 00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:39,220 internationally who haven't been professionals and then people who have probably done and 561 00:41:39,220 --> 00:41:40,340 seen it all. 562 00:41:40,340 --> 00:41:44,060 So it makes sense that they would start in that way. 563 00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:49,200 And hopefully you start to groom the next layer of professional athletes, given the 564 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,740 experience that you have for the athletes who, let's be honest, you get to a point 565 00:41:53,740 --> 00:41:56,740 where you don't want to leave and live overseas anymore. 566 00:41:56,740 --> 00:42:01,220 And now they get to pass their knowledge and experience and continue to play in a setting 567 00:42:01,220 --> 00:42:02,580 that's more comfortable to them. 568 00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:08,580 So I think the way the rosters are constructed make a lot of sense for where the league is. 569 00:42:08,580 --> 00:42:13,040 Is it going to be the best professional volleyball? 570 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,040 Probably not. 571 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:20,980 And there's going to be some growing pains, but hopefully it's good enough to be entertaining. 572 00:42:20,980 --> 00:42:24,860 I'm very curious what the level will look like. 573 00:42:24,860 --> 00:42:30,560 I understand that, you know, you're not going to get the big names to come right now. 574 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,420 The money's just not there. 575 00:42:32,420 --> 00:42:36,860 There's no reason for those players to leave Asia and Europe. 576 00:42:36,860 --> 00:42:39,260 But like you said, you have to start somewhere. 577 00:42:39,260 --> 00:42:41,780 I found it very interesting. 578 00:42:41,780 --> 00:42:46,940 I don't know if it was transparent to everybody, but how obvious it was that they were looking 579 00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:49,620 for social media, like followings. 580 00:42:49,620 --> 00:42:51,860 It's very clear that they want to get the word out there. 581 00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:57,700 And I'm just so curious how those contracts were negotiated or what those conversations 582 00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:03,740 were like, because it's basically like, we want to use your platform, but you will not 583 00:43:03,740 --> 00:43:05,140 play. 584 00:43:05,140 --> 00:43:06,140 Maybe they will play. 585 00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:09,020 If some of those players do play, I will be on the floor. 586 00:43:09,020 --> 00:43:10,300 Like I'll be shocked. 587 00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:11,300 Yeah. 588 00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:14,020 It's, it may, it's, it's a bold move. 589 00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:20,320 It's a genius move from a business standpoint, from an eyeballs on the product standpoint. 590 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:26,820 But like, yeah, I'm just, I'm curious how this is all going to pan out. 591 00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:34,860 Just quickly, before we get into the love six, the PVF rosters, PVF is allowed to foreign 592 00:43:34,860 --> 00:43:36,780 athletes per team. 593 00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:39,420 They have been very transparent about their pay structure. 594 00:43:39,420 --> 00:43:43,020 I don't know anything about the love pay structure. 595 00:43:43,020 --> 00:43:45,580 So that is a question mark that I have. 596 00:43:45,580 --> 00:43:52,240 Like how much are some of these American like Olympians giving up financially to do this 597 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,140 or has love made it worth their while? 598 00:43:54,140 --> 00:43:58,060 That's, it would be a very interesting question to get answered. 599 00:43:58,060 --> 00:44:00,060 I am very curious. 600 00:44:00,060 --> 00:44:02,820 The PVF rosters, I will be honest. 601 00:44:02,820 --> 00:44:07,760 I think PVF is based on the roster. 602 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,820 It's a great opportunity for people to play after college. 603 00:44:12,820 --> 00:44:19,780 I just looking at the, the names, I think love will be a higher level than PVF. 604 00:44:19,780 --> 00:44:20,780 Can I say that with certainty? 605 00:44:20,780 --> 00:44:23,300 No, I'm just going based off of. 606 00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:24,300 Give us a month. 607 00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:27,580 We'll have a more in-depth opinion for you after watching a few matches. 608 00:44:27,580 --> 00:44:31,900 Straight up looking at headshots and names and like who I know versus don't know. 609 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:38,340 I think love will be much stronger, but you know, it's, it's cool that these athletes 610 00:44:38,340 --> 00:44:46,000 have an opportunity to be professional volleyball players and make money playing volleyball. 611 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,140 I'm very curious to see how the different leagues function, what the production value 612 00:44:50,140 --> 00:44:55,660 is, what the entertainment value is, what the, what the level of volleyball is. 613 00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:58,080 I I'm actually, it's going to be an interesting two months. 614 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:05,180 I'm looking forward to seeing what product gets put on the floor and how it is shown 615 00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:06,580 to the public. 616 00:45:06,580 --> 00:45:08,980 Let's get into the love six. 617 00:45:08,980 --> 00:45:18,940 So love has signed six graduating seniors that we saw play in the 20, 24 NCAA season. 618 00:45:18,940 --> 00:45:22,860 They have sent one athlete to each team. 619 00:45:22,860 --> 00:45:30,340 Those athletes are Sophie Fisher from Georgia, Lexi Rodriguez from Nebraska, Sarah Franklin 620 00:45:30,340 --> 00:45:36,220 from Wisconsin, Jess Merzik played at Penn state, Madison Skinner played at Texas and 621 00:45:36,220 --> 00:45:38,640 O'Neill of Fegboo from Oregon. 622 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:45,020 I think of all of these players, Madison Skinner has the brightest future professionally. 623 00:45:45,020 --> 00:45:46,300 Lexi Rodriguez as well. 624 00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:51,820 I think her skillset is it's solid and it's good for her position obviously, but it's 625 00:45:51,820 --> 00:45:54,300 just a different game. 626 00:45:54,300 --> 00:46:00,340 And I think that Skinner's skills will translate to the international style of play better 627 00:46:00,340 --> 00:46:01,940 than the other ones. 628 00:46:01,940 --> 00:46:02,940 All right. 629 00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:04,320 It's game time. 630 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:11,700 And in honor of the final four wrapping up in the NCAA women's season, I thought it would 631 00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:19,020 be fun for you to pick a semi all-star team, but there's a caveat. 632 00:46:19,020 --> 00:46:26,980 So I've gone through and for each position, I've selected three athletes and you have 633 00:46:26,980 --> 00:46:32,200 to pick who you would choose for your team and why. 634 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,260 And for everybody out there, she has no idea who I've put on my list. 635 00:46:36,260 --> 00:46:43,300 I've picked players to make it interesting, but most of them are top level players. 636 00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:45,180 And I'm just curious what your thoughts are. 637 00:46:45,180 --> 00:46:47,140 We haven't done one of these games in a while. 638 00:46:47,140 --> 00:46:48,140 I'm very excited. 639 00:46:48,140 --> 00:46:52,220 I mean, we've been watching 20 plus matches a week, so it's been a little busy. 640 00:46:52,220 --> 00:46:53,220 So this is actually fun. 641 00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:54,780 All right, here we go. 642 00:46:54,780 --> 00:47:02,540 Starting at the center position, your three options are Fairbanks from Pitt, Stark from 643 00:47:02,540 --> 00:47:06,620 Penn State, or Waite from Creighton. 644 00:47:06,620 --> 00:47:08,800 This is harder than I thought it would be actually. 645 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,620 I'm going to go with Izzy Stark from Penn State. 646 00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:18,140 The reason I say that, I think that Rachel Fairbanks has some incredible hands. 647 00:47:18,140 --> 00:47:21,620 I think the way she runs the middle off the net is great. 648 00:47:21,620 --> 00:47:26,940 She has made some spectacular plays that I have seen, but in critical point matches, 649 00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:28,420 I have seen her crumble. 650 00:47:28,420 --> 00:47:29,660 That is a red flag for me. 651 00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:36,620 Izzy Stark was a freshman and I saw her in a couple different matches look terrified 652 00:47:36,620 --> 00:47:44,300 and look like she did not believe in herself, but I saw her rally and I saw her dig deep 653 00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:49,620 and pull herself out of whatever dark place she was trying to crawl into and deliver. 654 00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:55,580 And her out of system setting, the way that she is able to run an offense, I think her 655 00:47:55,580 --> 00:47:58,000 future is very bright. 656 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,460 I think she puts up a solid block. 657 00:48:00,460 --> 00:48:07,300 There are way more upside pieces to Stark than there are negatives. 658 00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:10,420 And I think her upside outweighs the other ones. 659 00:48:10,420 --> 00:48:12,940 So yeah, Izzy Stark. 660 00:48:12,940 --> 00:48:14,260 All right. 661 00:48:14,260 --> 00:48:21,740 At the liberal position, we have Rodriguez from Nebraska, we have Scott from Louisville, 662 00:48:21,740 --> 00:48:25,080 and we have Grimes from Penn State. 663 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,820 This one is really hard. 664 00:48:26,820 --> 00:48:28,160 Give me a second. 665 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,700 I had to take a break and think about this one for a minute. 666 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:32,700 I'm back. 667 00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:34,860 I would go with Elena Scott. 668 00:48:34,860 --> 00:48:40,300 I know there are probably so many people out there who are like, you are absolutely insane, 669 00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:41,300 but hear me out. 670 00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:44,340 From a serving perspective, I think they're a wash. 671 00:48:44,340 --> 00:48:48,780 I don't think either one of the two is a particular prolific server. 672 00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:53,540 I know what's going to tip the scales in Elena Scott's favor, but continue. 673 00:48:53,540 --> 00:49:00,420 From a setting perspective, I think Elena Scott is an outstanding setter. 674 00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:03,220 That's what I think tip the scales in her favor. 675 00:49:03,220 --> 00:49:05,340 I'm not saying Lexi Rodriguez is a bad setter. 676 00:49:05,340 --> 00:49:11,020 She's pretty good, but when the chips are on the table, she did not set well in that 677 00:49:11,020 --> 00:49:13,340 semi-final match against Penn State. 678 00:49:13,340 --> 00:49:14,740 It's true. 679 00:49:14,740 --> 00:49:15,820 Go back and watch the tape. 680 00:49:15,820 --> 00:49:19,260 From a passing perspective, Lexi is a very good pass. 681 00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:20,580 They're both very good passers. 682 00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:24,500 I would say Lexi is probably a more solid passer than Elena Scott is. 683 00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:31,140 Defensively, I think they are both outstanding, but I will say I think that Elena Scott digs 684 00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:34,340 down the line better than Lexi Rodriguez does. 685 00:49:34,340 --> 00:49:42,300 I saw Elena Scott make better adjustments in critical moments than Rodriguez did. 686 00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:43,940 Let the comment, keep them coming. 687 00:49:43,940 --> 00:49:45,060 I want to hear your comments. 688 00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:46,820 I know you're probably mad at me. 689 00:49:46,820 --> 00:49:49,020 I love it, but that's who I'm picking. 690 00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:57,580 All right, the first group of middles is Cressy from Louisville, Jackson from Nebraska, or 691 00:49:57,580 --> 00:49:59,940 Frances from Stanford. 692 00:49:59,940 --> 00:50:01,500 Andy Jackson. 693 00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:03,700 I knew whatever list she was on, you were going to pick that. 694 00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:04,700 No. 695 00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:09,580 I think both Frances and Cressy are great blockers. 696 00:50:09,580 --> 00:50:15,500 If anything, they might be better blockers than Jackson is, but offensively, there is 697 00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:19,780 absolutely no comparison between those athletes. 698 00:50:19,780 --> 00:50:24,460 If I am taking a little bit of a dip in the blocking category, I'm more than making up 699 00:50:24,460 --> 00:50:26,060 for it offensively. 700 00:50:26,060 --> 00:50:27,860 Jackson. 701 00:50:27,860 --> 00:50:34,500 Colvin from Purdue, Kelly from Pitt, or Alec from Nebraska. 702 00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:36,500 I would pick Bree Kelly from Pitt. 703 00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:42,460 I think Raven Colvin's strength is her blocking, but I think Bree Kelly is a pretty solid blocker 704 00:50:42,460 --> 00:50:44,140 as well. 705 00:50:44,140 --> 00:50:49,100 Maybe I'm taking a little dip from Colvin in a blocking sense, but with good passing 706 00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:54,700 and a setter who can deliver, I think Bree Kelly is much more efficient from an offensive 707 00:50:54,700 --> 00:50:55,700 perspective. 708 00:50:55,700 --> 00:51:02,340 For your first left side, you have the choice of De'Beer from Louisville, Murray from Nebraska, 709 00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:03,980 or Parah from TCU. 710 00:51:03,980 --> 00:51:09,940 Oh, it would have been so interesting to see Parah play with a solid team around her. 711 00:51:09,940 --> 00:51:13,420 I think from a passing perspective, all three are pretty similar. 712 00:51:13,420 --> 00:51:15,500 I know people are going to be mad about that too. 713 00:51:15,500 --> 00:51:16,500 I don't care. 714 00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:19,460 Parah's passing is probably a little worse than the other two. 715 00:51:19,460 --> 00:51:22,420 Defensively, I think she's better than the other two. 716 00:51:22,420 --> 00:51:26,240 She reads the game so well from a defensive perspective. 717 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:31,500 Her serve is substantially better than the other two. 718 00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:36,980 This is just so hard because Parah had to do everything for her team, and she was very 719 00:51:36,980 --> 00:51:40,360 successful at it, obviously, but she hit her limit. 720 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,300 She was maxed out. 721 00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:44,940 I'm going to cause a ruckus here and say Parah. 722 00:51:44,940 --> 00:51:50,020 I think if she had a solid team around her, she would be able to score with so much more 723 00:51:50,020 --> 00:51:51,420 ease. 724 00:51:51,420 --> 00:51:55,340 And mixing in her serve and the way she reads the game, I think it's great. 725 00:51:55,340 --> 00:51:56,340 All right. 726 00:51:56,340 --> 00:52:02,580 Your second left side position, you got Stafford from Pitt, Merzik from Penn State, or De'Lay 727 00:52:02,580 --> 00:52:03,580 from Kentucky. 728 00:52:03,580 --> 00:52:05,340 I'd take Tori Stafford. 729 00:52:05,340 --> 00:52:08,540 I think she passes better than the other two. 730 00:52:08,540 --> 00:52:15,860 I think she has been part of a good team, but her hitting percentage is outstanding. 731 00:52:15,860 --> 00:52:18,540 The way how fast she gets off the ground. 732 00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:20,900 She's a versatile attacker. 733 00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:22,300 She plays good defense. 734 00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:28,500 Man, you're setting me up to just be ripped apart by people. 735 00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:32,180 I purposely made the choices difficult. 736 00:52:32,180 --> 00:52:34,900 I wanted to see the thought process. 737 00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:38,660 No matter who I pick, there are going to be people like, how dare you? 738 00:52:38,660 --> 00:52:42,140 So it's a lose, lose, lose, lose, lose for me. 739 00:52:42,140 --> 00:52:43,140 All right. 740 00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:44,900 And last, we're going to go to the opposite position. 741 00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:49,920 I purposefully left Babcock off the list because I knew you would just pick her no matter what. 742 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:55,500 So to make it interesting, we've got Jura Vicious from Penn State. 743 00:52:55,500 --> 00:53:00,340 We've got Kennedy Martin from Florida and Anna Smreck from Wisconsin. 744 00:53:00,340 --> 00:53:01,340 Kennedy Martin. 745 00:53:01,340 --> 00:53:04,940 That might have been the easiest one. 746 00:53:04,940 --> 00:53:11,580 I think, again, she gets every ball for Florida and still scores and is still effective. 747 00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:15,100 I think she's a much better attacker than the other two. 748 00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:20,180 I think she actually plays six rotations, which can't say that about the other two. 749 00:53:20,180 --> 00:53:21,540 She actually serves. 750 00:53:21,540 --> 00:53:23,100 No, not even close. 751 00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:24,100 All right. 752 00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:25,100 Well, there it is. 753 00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:26,100 That's your pick a player. 754 00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:28,620 And I thought that I'd make you sweat a little. 755 00:53:28,620 --> 00:53:29,620 That was the goal. 756 00:53:29,620 --> 00:53:33,900 I'm literally sweating as I'm stressed out about these answers. 757 00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:36,420 Some of those were very hard. 758 00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:40,740 But for all of you who are going to be critical, put your biases aside. 759 00:53:40,740 --> 00:53:43,220 And I'd be curious what you would actually think, too. 760 00:53:43,220 --> 00:53:44,220 Well, I would be. 761 00:53:44,220 --> 00:53:46,140 So throw your teams up on YouTube. 762 00:53:46,140 --> 00:53:47,140 Let us see. 763 00:53:47,140 --> 00:53:48,140 Let's have a conversation. 764 00:53:48,140 --> 00:53:49,300 I would be curious what people think. 765 00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:57,100 I know we've had a lot of very intelligent comments on YouTube from some serious volleyball 766 00:53:57,100 --> 00:53:59,860 fans who watch a lot of college volleyball. 767 00:53:59,860 --> 00:54:02,380 So I would be I would be curious to get other opinions. 768 00:54:02,380 --> 00:54:09,660 It was a little more laid back this week, kind of like a fun housekeeping week, if that 769 00:54:09,660 --> 00:54:11,020 is a thing. 770 00:54:11,020 --> 00:54:12,260 Can housekeeping be fun? 771 00:54:12,260 --> 00:54:13,260 No. 772 00:54:13,260 --> 00:54:14,260 OK. 773 00:54:14,260 --> 00:54:19,700 But yeah, hopefully you guys are as excited about the new American Pro Leagues as we are 774 00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:23,380 just to see what the level is, see how they function. 775 00:54:23,380 --> 00:54:28,740 Obviously they are very viewer friendly because the NCAA did a great job this season in, you 776 00:54:28,740 --> 00:54:31,300 know, making those games accessible. 777 00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:37,940 We are actually going to be off next week as the leagues kind of get started. 778 00:54:37,940 --> 00:54:39,800 We roll into things. 779 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,880 So we wanted to wish you all a very happy new year. 780 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,800 Thank you so much for being part of the start of this podcast with us. 781 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:53,260 We have so much fun doing this together and sharing our love of volleyball with all of 782 00:54:53,260 --> 00:54:54,260 you. 783 00:54:54,260 --> 00:54:55,260 Yeah. 784 00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:59,580 So don't expect anything from us next week, but we'll be back the following week with 785 00:54:59,580 --> 00:55:03,600 an update on how love is going. 786 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,780 That concludes this week's episode of Volley Talk. 787 00:55:06,780 --> 00:55:10,620 There's always something shaking in the volleyball world and we hope you enjoyed this little 788 00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:11,620 fix. 789 00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:15,780 Be sure to follow the show so you don't miss any updates and we'd be so grateful if you'd 790 00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:17,860 leave us a five star review. 791 00:55:17,860 --> 00:55:22,800 You can also find us on Instagram at VolleyTalk underscore podcast. 792 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,380 If you have a topic that you want us to discuss, be sure to let us know by reaching out to 793 00:55:26,380 --> 00:55:30,980 us on Instagram or at info at Sarah pavin.com. 794 00:55:30,980 --> 00:55:46,660 Thanks so much for joining us and we'll be back in two weeks.