1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Hi volleyball fans and welcome back to Volley Talk, the podcast created for volleyball lovers 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,680 who want to dig deep into what is going on in NCAA and international volleyball. 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:17,920 I'm your host Sarah Pavin, I'm an Olympian, beach volleyball world champion, former Nebraska 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,680 corn husker and a longtime pro both indoor and on the beach. 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:28,480 And I'm Adam Schultz, former indoor player, international volleyball coach and stats guru. 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,640 Every time we think we're going to have a straightforward week, we are hit with some 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,800 absolutely shocking results. 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:43,920 And there were a ton of surprises this week, both from upsets to straight up like domination. 9 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:50,560 We watched a lot of one sided matches, some of which probably raised some eyebrows all 10 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,120 over the place. 11 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,680 So we are going to be taking a closer look at one of those matches in particular. 12 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:02,480 But both Kansas and Minnesota went 0 and 2 this week, so we're going to do a little analysis 13 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:08,240 on both of those teams as we head towards the end of conference play. 14 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:22,280 Let's get started. 15 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,720 This week, Utah crushed BYU 3-0. 16 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,800 BYU was missing Claire Little, but that doesn't help with the end result. 17 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:38,320 We also had Illinois upset number 20 USC in 5 and number 6 Stanford crushed 16 Georgia 18 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:39,880 Tech in Palo Alto. 19 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,320 We've talked about BYU a few times. 20 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:49,360 We've also talked about how integral Claire Little is to their team and having her missing. 21 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Wow. 22 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,360 The game against Utah was not even close. 23 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,120 And I think that that just goes to show how important she is. 24 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,160 I agree with that. 25 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,560 I'm curious as to why she didn't play. 26 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,160 We weren't able to find anything about that as of yet. 27 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,840 But if it's something serious, we'll definitely report it on that next week. 28 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:13,160 We will be talking about this match in depth later. 29 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:19,360 But number 7 Wisconsin was absolutely incredible against number 3 Penn State. 30 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:25,080 And they absolutely demolished them 3-0. 31 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,340 And as we said, both Minnesota and Kansas dropped both their matches this week. 32 00:02:29,340 --> 00:02:34,000 So let's dive in and take a closer look at each one. 33 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,760 Minnesota had two home matches this week. 34 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,360 Earlier in the week, they lost to unranked Washington in four sets. 35 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,880 And then on the weekend, they lost to number 12 Oregon three straight. 36 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,240 What are you thinking when you're watching Minnesota? 37 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,160 I had lots of thoughts about those two matches in particular. 38 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,640 I had several thoughts after kind of diving into the match from a statistical standpoint. 39 00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:03,920 And my feel as I watched the match was that they didn't establish the middle of the court 40 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:06,580 very well and they didn't run their middles. 41 00:03:06,580 --> 00:03:12,720 And when I looked at some of the set distribution, we had only 16% of the sets going to their 42 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,480 middle hitters, which probably is a little low, especially if you're playing good blocking 43 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,280 teams because you're just the middles just aren't a factor. 44 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,620 Now I understand that that's not all on the center because they're also not passing well. 45 00:03:25,620 --> 00:03:30,320 Their middles were relatively efficient at 3-0-8 as a group, but they just need to run 46 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,900 them more so that all of the load is not on the outside hitters. 47 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:38,940 I think that passing is a massive issue for Minnesota. 48 00:03:38,940 --> 00:03:41,120 They're getting served off the court. 49 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,600 They cannot, they're not controlling their service reception well at all. 50 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:51,560 And I mean, you alluded to this, it's really affecting their ability to run the middle. 51 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,640 The middle of the court is almost non-existent for them. 52 00:03:54,640 --> 00:04:01,240 And on top of that, they don't have a really strongly established back row attack. 53 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,520 So you're just seeing balls and high balls, might I add. 54 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,800 We're not running like particularly quick tempo by any means. 55 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:16,520 It's just like loopy sets to both pins and it's really, really easy to defend. 56 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:22,200 I felt watching Shaftmaster set that it was really easy to pick up where she was going 57 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,400 to set the ball. 58 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,400 When everybody in the gym knows where the ball is going, it's really easy for the blockers 59 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,800 and the defense to set up and it makes life on your setter so much harder. 60 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,600 And again, I'm not going to place all of that at her feet because the passing isn't great, 61 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,240 but sometimes when you watch her set, it doesn't seem like she's putting in a ton of effort 62 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,880 to get to the ball, to get square, to hide her decisions. 63 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,440 She's just focused on trying to deliver a hittable ball, which is a good thing and it's 64 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,840 something you want in your setter, but against really good teams, it's just not enough. 65 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:58,040 I mean watching her set, it is pretty clear where she's going. 66 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,980 Some other setters, you know, they get to the ball quick, they're jump setting off of 67 00:05:01,980 --> 00:05:03,400 two feet. 68 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,920 They're looking the same every single time. 69 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,840 I don't know if it's a timing issue. 70 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:14,440 I don't know if it's a speed issue, whatever it is, but like it is pretty clear when she's 71 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,440 going to set outside versus behind and especially when she's setting the middle, you can read 72 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,000 it from a mile away. 73 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:27,640 It's tough and the team is passing poorly and the out of system sets are not being put 74 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,500 in a consistent location either from anybody on the team. 75 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:37,260 And I will say I am like so perturbed at how the Minnesota Libero sets. 76 00:05:37,260 --> 00:05:43,380 This is me like technique police here, but if you want to deliver a consistent out of 77 00:05:43,380 --> 00:05:49,860 system set, you need to almost feel like you're sitting in a chair, get that much load in 78 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:55,020 your legs and you are lifting completely with your butt and your quads. 79 00:05:55,020 --> 00:05:59,800 There should be minimal arm movement because when you're swinging your arms, that is when 80 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,900 the ball is taking off everywhere. 81 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:07,480 And I see the Libero for Minnesota who sets a lot of balls completely swinging her arms 82 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,480 at everything. 83 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:13,780 There is no leg being used whatsoever and it's driving me crazy. 84 00:06:13,780 --> 00:06:17,880 I mean I think there's a lot of issues with Minnesota right now, specifically in the last 85 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,620 couple of weeks when we've watched them. 86 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:24,980 I think a lot of it just stems from a lack of... 87 00:06:24,980 --> 00:06:26,520 Urgency, I would say. 88 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,800 I think that's the right word. 89 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,140 You watch them pass, they're not communicating seams particularly well. 90 00:06:32,140 --> 00:06:37,420 You watch them play defense, they're not following in their hitters and coming back out and resetting. 91 00:06:37,420 --> 00:06:43,700 It almost looks like everybody is doing the bare minimum to do their job and they're not 92 00:06:43,700 --> 00:06:45,260 coming together as a team. 93 00:06:45,260 --> 00:06:51,440 And if you look at the last two matches they played against Washington, they had six service 94 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,060 aces and 11 errors, but Washington had 13 aces and two errors. 95 00:06:56,060 --> 00:07:00,700 So everything else was almost the same, they completely lost that part of the game. 96 00:07:00,700 --> 00:07:06,980 And then you watch them play Oregon, they were 14 blocks to six and Minnesota is supposed 97 00:07:06,980 --> 00:07:09,580 to be a good blocking team. 98 00:07:09,580 --> 00:07:13,900 Watching it, it feels like they're fighting the game in general and they can't ever get 99 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:17,900 all of the pieces to fit and click at the same time. 100 00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:22,420 I mean if you're going to get blocked straight down, that's one thing, but this week in particular 101 00:07:22,420 --> 00:07:26,980 I saw the Minnesota hitters get blocked and those balls land in the middle third of the 102 00:07:26,980 --> 00:07:29,180 court depth wise. 103 00:07:29,180 --> 00:07:34,380 If you are not getting blocked straight down, that ball needs to come up and at the very, 104 00:07:34,380 --> 00:07:40,100 very minimum there needs to be one or two players on the ground to get it up. 105 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:45,700 It's unacceptable, I'm sorry, for balls to be blocked and land in that middle third as 106 00:07:45,700 --> 00:07:47,700 consistently as it happened. 107 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:48,700 I agree. 108 00:07:48,700 --> 00:07:49,980 I agree. 109 00:07:49,980 --> 00:07:53,540 And I think that that's a microcosm of everything that's going on. 110 00:07:53,540 --> 00:07:59,580 Everybody on that team needs to be a little better, 10, 15% and that will build towards 111 00:07:59,580 --> 00:08:02,380 them as a team putting a better product together. 112 00:08:02,380 --> 00:08:05,900 You mentioned that Minnesota's defensive strength is their block. 113 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:10,100 I agree because they do not dig anything as a team. 114 00:08:10,100 --> 00:08:12,180 Do you want to score a point on Minnesota? 115 00:08:12,180 --> 00:08:13,220 Tip the ball. 116 00:08:13,220 --> 00:08:16,660 Tip the ball in the middle of the court, tip the ball down the line, tip it wherever you 117 00:08:16,660 --> 00:08:18,980 want it will land. 118 00:08:18,980 --> 00:08:22,820 They are not picking up anything defensively. 119 00:08:22,820 --> 00:08:27,980 And again, this is one of those areas where the stats are a little bit deceiving because 120 00:08:27,980 --> 00:08:31,880 they're digging on par with the teams that they're playing, but they're not getting the 121 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,860 same quality transition opportunities outside of that. 122 00:08:35,860 --> 00:08:38,980 And they get respect as a blocking team because of their reputation. 123 00:08:38,980 --> 00:08:42,740 So hitters will go around, they get some digs, but they're not converting on them and they're 124 00:08:42,740 --> 00:08:48,120 not taking care of the digs in a way that gives them multiple options in transition. 125 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,220 Or even a set sometimes. 126 00:08:50,220 --> 00:08:56,340 Somebody might get a hand on the ball, but if the setter is diving and punches the ball 127 00:08:56,340 --> 00:08:58,860 into the bench, that is not a good dig. 128 00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:03,260 And it probably counts as a dig on the stats, but I don't know how many times we've watched 129 00:09:03,260 --> 00:09:07,660 them recently where we're like, tip the ball and then the person tips and they score. 130 00:09:07,660 --> 00:09:09,660 It's almost a guaranteed point. 131 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:13,820 I will say the one bright spot for me having watched them over the last couple of weeks 132 00:09:13,820 --> 00:09:16,300 is Julia Hansen. 133 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:20,100 I think she has played well. 134 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:21,440 I like her as a hitter. 135 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,540 She's very dynamic. 136 00:09:22,540 --> 00:09:24,120 She jumps well. 137 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,380 She's aggressive. 138 00:09:25,380 --> 00:09:27,000 I think she's been their best player. 139 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,580 I think she's got a higher ceiling than we've already seen at this point. 140 00:09:31,580 --> 00:09:36,180 If I'm Minnesota, I'm going, okay, this is a player that we can continue to build the 141 00:09:36,180 --> 00:09:37,420 program around. 142 00:09:37,420 --> 00:09:39,860 So that for me has been the one bright spot. 143 00:09:39,860 --> 00:09:44,800 She is definitely their most consistent player right now. 144 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,900 She jumps very well. 145 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:51,860 If she jumps and contacts the ball at the height that she is capable of, I think she 146 00:09:51,860 --> 00:09:56,060 could be scoring at such a high percentage. 147 00:09:56,060 --> 00:09:59,120 Sometimes she does let the ball drop a little low. 148 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,980 And I don't know if she's looking, waiting to see something, if she feels uncomfortable, 149 00:10:02,980 --> 00:10:03,980 whatever. 150 00:10:03,980 --> 00:10:06,900 But if she is fully extended, she could go over top of a lot of blocks. 151 00:10:06,900 --> 00:10:07,900 I agree. 152 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:12,180 When she's coming in, she finds a rhythm and it's off the ground through the swing without 153 00:10:12,180 --> 00:10:13,740 any delay or any hitch. 154 00:10:13,740 --> 00:10:15,020 She scores very, very well. 155 00:10:15,020 --> 00:10:17,260 So hopefully that rhythm will continue to come for her. 156 00:10:17,260 --> 00:10:20,140 We have watched Minnesota play many times this season. 157 00:10:20,140 --> 00:10:26,700 We watched them early in Big Ten play and we've watched them a lot in the last few weeks. 158 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:33,660 I hate to say it, but I feel like Minnesota was playing much better as a team when Alex 159 00:10:33,660 --> 00:10:36,620 Azevedo was playing as opposed to Paige Wooker. 160 00:10:36,620 --> 00:10:42,140 And since Paige Wooker has been playing, Minnesota is a completely different team. 161 00:10:42,140 --> 00:10:49,380 And I don't want to like, this is nothing against Paige Wooker, but based on my observations 162 00:10:49,380 --> 00:10:55,000 when she was injured versus now when she's playing, it's so much different. 163 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,580 And I'm curious whether that decision is, she's a vet, we know what we get with her, 164 00:11:00,580 --> 00:11:03,820 we're going to give her a chance to kind of come back in and find her rhythm after the 165 00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:07,200 injury in hopes that she's going to help out in the tournament. 166 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,320 But I would agree with you. 167 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,700 She's not passing well. 168 00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:14,540 I think a lot of the passing problems start with her first contact and she's not scoring 169 00:11:14,540 --> 00:11:15,540 either. 170 00:11:15,540 --> 00:11:21,780 She yeah, it, she is not bringing a ton of positive touches to the floor and you know, 171 00:11:21,780 --> 00:11:23,500 hopefully in two weeks that's different. 172 00:11:23,500 --> 00:11:29,040 But if Minnesota doesn't figure out their first contact, it's going to be a long rest 173 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,180 of the season for them. 174 00:11:30,180 --> 00:11:32,600 So that brings up the question that I had for you. 175 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:38,780 What do you think Minnesota needs to do to give them a chance at doing well in the tournament? 176 00:11:38,780 --> 00:11:40,660 They need to put their best passers on the floor. 177 00:11:40,660 --> 00:11:43,540 I think they're big, they have size. 178 00:11:43,540 --> 00:11:49,860 I don't think shaft masters the most agile setter, but she's a threat in the front row 179 00:11:49,860 --> 00:11:51,520 when the passes are tight. 180 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,260 She needs to be part of the offense. 181 00:11:53,260 --> 00:11:58,220 That's when you see her being the most engaged and the most excited to play and that team 182 00:11:58,220 --> 00:11:59,740 runs through her. 183 00:11:59,740 --> 00:12:03,100 If she's not a part of the offense, it just doesn't look right. 184 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:07,360 So I would focus first touch, let everything else flow from there. 185 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,100 When shaft master attacks on a good pass, I love it. 186 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:17,820 When she does the little cutesy side set over from the 10 foot line, like no girl, you're 187 00:12:17,820 --> 00:12:18,820 6'3". 188 00:12:18,820 --> 00:12:19,820 Hit it. 189 00:12:19,820 --> 00:12:22,900 Use that height, use your hitting ability, get up there. 190 00:12:22,900 --> 00:12:26,380 Like don't do this cute stuff because it doesn't work. 191 00:12:26,380 --> 00:12:28,280 It's not efficient for you. 192 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,340 Just like let's play into your strengths here. 193 00:12:30,340 --> 00:12:37,100 A few weeks ago, I said in one of my hot takes that Minnesota has no business being the number 194 00:12:37,100 --> 00:12:41,900 14 seed and I'm sorry, but I am reinforcing that statement. 195 00:12:41,900 --> 00:12:43,800 I'm standing by it. 196 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,380 They have gotten worse, I think, since I said that. 197 00:12:46,380 --> 00:12:50,980 So I'm asking again, how the heck are they holding on to this ranking? 198 00:12:50,980 --> 00:12:55,540 Because we're definitely looking at Texas and Wisconsin wins here and like we are way 199 00:12:55,540 --> 00:12:56,540 past that. 200 00:12:56,540 --> 00:13:00,720 So let's hope that Minnesota can figure their passing troubles out and start to gain a little 201 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,900 momentum towards the end of the Big 10 season. 202 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:07,900 Kansas was another team that had a bit of a rough week. 203 00:13:07,900 --> 00:13:14,300 Their road trip to Arizona did not go well as they dropped a four set match to number 204 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:19,620 11 Arizona State and they lost in five to unranked Arizona as well. 205 00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:26,060 Those two losses were their only defeats in Big 12 play and because they've now lost two 206 00:13:26,060 --> 00:13:31,540 games they have relinquished the lead of the Big 12 to Arizona State. 207 00:13:31,540 --> 00:13:34,980 So we have also watched a lot of Kansas this season. 208 00:13:34,980 --> 00:13:38,140 What is your analysis of the team right now? 209 00:13:38,140 --> 00:13:43,300 I feel like I'm going to sound like a broken record on this one, but I truly believe that 210 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:49,380 success starts in the middle and the last time we watched or we talked about Kansas, 211 00:13:49,380 --> 00:13:53,900 we talked about how good their middles were and how much they controlled the middle of 212 00:13:53,900 --> 00:13:59,500 the court and I broke down the last two matches that they played and so in these last two 213 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:06,620 matches they only set the middle 19% of total team attacks, which is more than Minnesota 214 00:14:06,620 --> 00:14:14,020 that we just talked about, but they on a whole run the middle generally 25% before this week. 215 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:19,580 So I know you look at that and say, you know, five or six percent is not a ton, but when 216 00:14:19,580 --> 00:14:26,300 you look at the overall feel and establishing the middle, it makes a difference because 217 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:30,380 the blockers are thinking I've got to be I've got to stay I've got to follow that middle. 218 00:14:30,380 --> 00:14:32,660 It makes them a fraction late outside. 219 00:14:32,660 --> 00:14:38,940 It makes life easier for the outside hitters and then on top of the decrease in setting 220 00:14:38,940 --> 00:14:44,260 the middle, both middles were incredibly ineffective in these last two matches. 221 00:14:44,260 --> 00:14:51,140 So on a banjo hit 179 in those two matches versus 415 on the season before coming into 222 00:14:51,140 --> 00:14:59,180 these two and Reese Patak hit 030 on these two matches versus 313 on the season. 223 00:14:59,180 --> 00:15:03,500 So not only did they get set less, they weren't scoring and the teams they played against 224 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:05,940 both Arizona teams will go to the pin. 225 00:15:05,940 --> 00:15:10,020 We're going to life make life miserable for your outside hitters and they just couldn't 226 00:15:10,020 --> 00:15:11,020 get it back. 227 00:15:11,020 --> 00:15:13,160 And I will say credit to Kansas. 228 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,380 They did try and run the middles early in the matches, but it just didn't work. 229 00:15:17,380 --> 00:15:19,300 It never they never connected. 230 00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:24,260 Like obviously, you know, Reese Patak started playing like partway through the season, earned 231 00:15:24,260 --> 00:15:27,900 the starting spot on a banjo has been very effective. 232 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:33,020 We have actually only watched Kansas play when they've been playing home matches. 233 00:15:33,020 --> 00:15:36,680 And those two middles have honestly been like leading the team. 234 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,580 So I don't know, like rough week for them. 235 00:15:39,580 --> 00:15:45,500 It could be any number of things because clearly they've been performing this season. 236 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:49,380 Kansas hasn't dropped a match in Big 12 play until now. 237 00:15:49,380 --> 00:15:54,340 It was really interesting watching because on perfect passes, Cameron Turner would not 238 00:15:54,340 --> 00:15:56,100 set the middle in front. 239 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:59,480 She set the middles on slides on perfect passes. 240 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,620 But every time she was running the middle, when they were in front of her, it was only 241 00:16:04,620 --> 00:16:10,720 from off the net or from a less than perfect pass, which we saw her trying to establish 242 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,560 the middle early in matches and it wasn't effective. 243 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,020 They were making a lot of errors and then she was forced to go away from them. 244 00:16:17,020 --> 00:16:21,640 But my thought was when you get a perfect pass, like maybe run the middle then early 245 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,420 in the game, because not only are you giving your your outside hitter some freedom as the 246 00:16:26,420 --> 00:16:31,420 match goes on, but you're helping your middles get into a rhythm by forcing the sets to them 247 00:16:31,420 --> 00:16:34,180 from off the net, especially early. 248 00:16:34,180 --> 00:16:37,580 You're kind of making life challenging for them to to get into a rhythm. 249 00:16:37,580 --> 00:16:42,540 And then it just causes this huge cascade of things kind of falling apart for them. 250 00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:47,620 Watching Turner set and I think I've watched four or five matches of them now. 251 00:16:47,620 --> 00:16:55,100 Her tendencies to me seem to be coming verbatim from a setting handbook. 252 00:16:55,100 --> 00:16:59,340 So you watch she comes off the net to the 10 foot line. 253 00:16:59,340 --> 00:17:03,180 She tries to push the middle, like you said, but she doesn't set them when they're in 254 00:17:03,180 --> 00:17:04,180 rhythm. 255 00:17:04,180 --> 00:17:07,660 And so it's like, hey, yes, you need they need to respect your block when the passes 256 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:08,780 off the net. 257 00:17:08,780 --> 00:17:10,960 And then she's always reversing the flow. 258 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,740 So she's moving forward. 259 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:14,140 She's setting back to the right side. 260 00:17:14,140 --> 00:17:16,700 If she's moving back, she's pushing it to the left side. 261 00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:24,340 And while these are guiding principles, it seems like she plays them 100% of the time. 262 00:17:24,340 --> 00:17:28,540 And so even when you're doing the right thing in that regard, you're not playing with any 263 00:17:28,540 --> 00:17:31,620 feel, you're not paying attention to whether your hitters are in rhythm. 264 00:17:31,620 --> 00:17:33,860 It doesn't look like she feels the match. 265 00:17:33,860 --> 00:17:38,860 It looks like she's making her set selection completely based on the situation. 266 00:17:38,860 --> 00:17:43,180 I mean, I had El Nadi was pretty on fire this week. 267 00:17:43,180 --> 00:17:50,000 And so when the middles weren't scoring and when Cameron Turner was in the front without 268 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:55,020 a right side attack, you saw her using El Nadi so much. 269 00:17:55,020 --> 00:17:57,840 And it was just it almost felt like, okay, well, the middles aren't working. 270 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,340 So I need to give you every ball. 271 00:17:59,340 --> 00:18:02,740 If a player is hot, like for sure, like use them. 272 00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:06,940 I think that could have been avoided, you know, if on a perfect pass, she would just 273 00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:10,740 run a basic set in the middle and it doesn't even have to score. 274 00:18:10,740 --> 00:18:15,220 But like if your middle is making solid contact, that helps rhythm. 275 00:18:15,220 --> 00:18:16,260 It's just like a lot. 276 00:18:16,260 --> 00:18:20,300 It's a very little thing, but I think it makes a big difference as you were saying as the 277 00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:21,900 matches progress. 278 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:26,600 So we talked about the middle numbers being down, and then you look at them as a whole. 279 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:33,900 So as a team, they hit 220 this weekend versus 297 how they normally hit as a team, even 280 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:37,060 with Ana Banjo hitting really, really well. 281 00:18:37,060 --> 00:18:42,620 And then you look at her numbers specifically, she got 33% of the team sets this weekend 282 00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:44,620 compared to El Nadi. 283 00:18:44,620 --> 00:18:51,580 33% of the team's swings this weekend versus a 24% distribution that they normally get. 284 00:18:51,580 --> 00:18:58,260 And we talked about Kansas's strength earlier in the podcast, and it was all about balance. 285 00:18:58,260 --> 00:19:02,420 It was about all five people getting sets, not knowing where they were going. 286 00:19:02,420 --> 00:19:03,940 And that just didn't happen this weekend. 287 00:19:03,940 --> 00:19:08,580 I wouldn't say that Kansas played poorly this week. 288 00:19:08,580 --> 00:19:14,300 Like watching the matches, there weren't any glaring issues that it was like, oh my gosh, 289 00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:16,060 like they were terrible at this. 290 00:19:16,060 --> 00:19:21,240 Like obviously the middle attacking, we noticed it, their numbers weren't as good. 291 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,860 But it's they didn't play poorly as a team. 292 00:19:23,860 --> 00:19:29,840 I do however think that there are some issues that they will have to resolve if they want 293 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,580 to beat the top, top teams. 294 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:38,780 And I think number one is their setter, Cameron Turner, is a liability at the net. 295 00:19:38,780 --> 00:19:39,780 Yes. 296 00:19:39,780 --> 00:19:42,220 There's no other way to put it. 297 00:19:42,220 --> 00:19:47,980 The left sides that she was lined up against for both Arizona teams had a field day. 298 00:19:47,980 --> 00:19:50,540 Oh my gosh. 299 00:19:50,540 --> 00:19:54,840 Every time Cameron Turner was blocking, they were just going up, hitting line. 300 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,940 And they had career matches. 301 00:19:56,940 --> 00:20:02,780 Jordan Wilson from Arizona had 37 kills against Kansas hitting 465. 302 00:20:02,780 --> 00:20:04,660 And guess who she was matched up with? 303 00:20:04,660 --> 00:20:08,900 For at least two rotations, I believe it was Cameron Turner. 304 00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:13,780 And you're going to see teams do that to them more and more frequently. 305 00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:18,780 As there's more video, as teams are prepared, as you play better teams who have the ability 306 00:20:18,780 --> 00:20:22,880 to run that ball out to the pin and hit down the line, it's going to happen again and again 307 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,880 and again. 308 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,640 And they're going to have to figure out a solution to that. 309 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:33,260 The other thing that I believe Kansas needs to improve to play top teams or compete or 310 00:20:33,260 --> 00:20:37,140 beat top teams is I don't think they serve tough enough. 311 00:20:37,140 --> 00:20:38,340 I completely agree with that. 312 00:20:38,340 --> 00:20:42,500 If you look at their serving on the weekend, they had nine service errors to one ace versus 313 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:44,080 Arizona State. 314 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,500 Those numbers don't say everything because they also weren't putting them in a ton of 315 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:48,760 passing trouble. 316 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,260 But it's a little bit of a microcosm. 317 00:20:50,260 --> 00:20:51,360 You're missing a ton of serves. 318 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:53,140 You're not able to put pressure on. 319 00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:55,520 You feel like you just have to get the ball in. 320 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:01,980 That ratio of error to aces affects your mentality as a team because you're not getting the results 321 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:02,980 that you expect to. 322 00:21:02,980 --> 00:21:08,740 I mean, we have talked about this at length, but the other piece is the production from 323 00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:10,260 the middle. 324 00:21:10,260 --> 00:21:16,600 In the matches that they lost this week, both Arizona and Arizona State had moments of brilliance 325 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,100 from their middles. 326 00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:21,860 I don't think it was sustained necessarily by Arizona. 327 00:21:21,860 --> 00:21:26,940 I think their middles were very effective in set one, which is very important. 328 00:21:26,940 --> 00:21:29,940 If a middle is going to be good at any time, be good at the beginning because it keeps 329 00:21:29,940 --> 00:21:31,540 people thinking. 330 00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:36,300 But luckily, the outsides picked up the slack as the match moved on. 331 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:42,360 And then Arizona State, Claire Jeter, Cole Heade, both of them were very good. 332 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:46,780 And so you're seeing in these two matches, the middles just aren't keeping up with their 333 00:21:46,780 --> 00:21:47,780 opponents. 334 00:21:47,780 --> 00:21:54,660 So my opinion is if Kansas wants to go far in the postseason, they need to figure out 335 00:21:54,660 --> 00:22:00,420 a solution for when their setters up in that they need to increase the service pressure 336 00:22:00,420 --> 00:22:04,260 and get teams in trouble because across the board, they are pretty small. 337 00:22:04,260 --> 00:22:08,220 Yes, both of their outsides are like five, nine, five, 10. 338 00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:09,540 Then you've got Turner. 339 00:22:09,540 --> 00:22:16,060 The middles are big, but it's like you need to take away some options for your block. 340 00:22:16,060 --> 00:22:20,780 And they need to get consistent attacking numbers from their middles. 341 00:22:20,780 --> 00:22:25,540 Kansas does have a really tough schedule to end Big 12 play. 342 00:22:25,540 --> 00:22:31,860 So I think we will see some of these issues maybe try to be exploited or come to light 343 00:22:31,860 --> 00:22:33,800 in the next couple of weeks. 344 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:39,100 So honestly, I like that they're planning tougher teams heading into the postseason 345 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:41,220 because things are just going to get harder. 346 00:22:41,220 --> 00:22:47,740 I would much rather start the season easy, easy quotes and work into the difficult matches. 347 00:22:47,740 --> 00:22:50,880 So I'm like primed and ready to go for the tournament. 348 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:51,880 So we'll see. 349 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,740 We'll see if they make any adjustments, if they work on things. 350 00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:57,180 But I think this is a good opportunity for them. 351 00:22:57,180 --> 00:23:02,020 I would agree to go undefeated is never a great thing in my opinion. 352 00:23:02,020 --> 00:23:04,460 So you had a really good start to conference play. 353 00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:05,900 You lost two matches. 354 00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:08,780 You've got five matches left against some good opponents. 355 00:23:08,780 --> 00:23:13,100 You have a chance to figure out what went wrong this weekend, try and address it and 356 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:16,420 figure out what strategy you're going to use in the tournament. 357 00:23:16,420 --> 00:23:17,780 It's in their hands. 358 00:23:17,780 --> 00:23:22,920 So we've reached our feature match in Wisconsin and Penn State. 359 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,420 And to be honest, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it. 360 00:23:26,420 --> 00:23:27,500 What do you mean? 361 00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:32,820 I wanted to see Wisconsin have a response to getting kicked by Nebraska. 362 00:23:32,820 --> 00:23:37,340 And I was curious what we were going to see from them coming out and playing another team 363 00:23:37,340 --> 00:23:38,580 that was ranked ahead of them. 364 00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:40,940 I was really looking forward to this match. 365 00:23:40,940 --> 00:23:46,780 And while I was incredibly impressed by Wisconsin, I was very disappointed in how Penn State 366 00:23:46,780 --> 00:23:47,780 played. 367 00:23:47,780 --> 00:23:52,100 And the first set was a little bit back and forth and was tight and was good. 368 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:56,420 But Wisconsin just rolled Penn State in the second and third. 369 00:23:56,420 --> 00:24:03,660 I'm pretty sure every fan who follows Big Ten volleyball has a similar feeling to you. 370 00:24:03,660 --> 00:24:06,620 I think eyebrows are probably raised all over the place. 371 00:24:06,620 --> 00:24:10,340 I think everybody was probably excited for this match. 372 00:24:10,340 --> 00:24:15,140 And yes, was Wisconsin absolutely impressive? 373 00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:16,540 One hundred percent. 374 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:21,620 But Penn State was equally as unimpressive in my opinion. 375 00:24:21,620 --> 00:24:27,420 First of all, I have been critical of Charlie Furbringer in certain podcast episodes that 376 00:24:27,420 --> 00:24:28,420 we've had. 377 00:24:28,420 --> 00:24:32,460 I will say she ran an excellent offense. 378 00:24:32,460 --> 00:24:33,740 It was very impressive. 379 00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:39,380 And she was great not just from a setting standpoint, but like all facets of her game were very 380 00:24:39,380 --> 00:24:40,380 good. 381 00:24:40,380 --> 00:24:43,980 So I feel like I need to start off with that because I have been critical, particularly 382 00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:45,460 of her out of system setting. 383 00:24:45,460 --> 00:24:46,460 So she did great. 384 00:24:46,460 --> 00:24:48,580 Offensively, she made tons of great plays. 385 00:24:48,580 --> 00:24:49,940 She served aggressively. 386 00:24:49,940 --> 00:24:54,780 I loved the way she utilized the offense and her different players. 387 00:24:54,780 --> 00:24:58,980 Kudos to her in a tough match after a bad loss. 388 00:24:58,980 --> 00:24:59,980 Great response. 389 00:24:59,980 --> 00:25:09,380 Wisconsin hit 465 as a team and only made three hitting errors the entire match. 390 00:25:09,380 --> 00:25:12,500 I'm sorry, as Penn State, you have to take that personally. 391 00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:16,340 There's no way a team should be able to get those numbers on you. 392 00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:23,340 I understand you might have been a little sheepish after losing in three at home to 393 00:25:23,340 --> 00:25:24,480 Nebraska. 394 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,520 Completely understand. 395 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:31,780 Also completely understand wanting to redeem yourself, prove yourself, make a point against 396 00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:36,020 an equally highly ranked team to follow that up. 397 00:25:36,020 --> 00:25:38,620 But this was a statement. 398 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:41,980 It was, it was absolutely crazy watching this happening. 399 00:25:41,980 --> 00:25:47,300 I know this isn't true, but you watched Wisconsin play so well and watching Penn State, it didn't 400 00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:49,740 look like they prepared for the match at all. 401 00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:55,300 I fundamentally disagreed with what I saw them trying to do on the court. 402 00:25:55,300 --> 00:26:00,700 Let's talk about Penn State and then we'll dive into Wisconsin and kind of dissect the 403 00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:06,960 difference between what happened with Nebraska versus this because it was night and day. 404 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,500 The thing that I saw and we talked about this as the match was going on, they just looked 405 00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:12,500 at the stats. 406 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,620 I don't think they watched the Nebraska match. 407 00:26:14,620 --> 00:26:19,980 If you watch that match back, they went after the 5-6 seem to start. 408 00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:26,220 They challenged the passing left side, they made that player work and then at the end 409 00:26:26,220 --> 00:26:32,340 of sets, they went at the young inexperienced libero and she didn't pass well. 410 00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:35,900 Penn State going at her right from the beginning allowed for two things. 411 00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:38,960 One Franklin poached a whole bunch of balls. 412 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:44,500 She was almost passing on the sideline when she was in six and the libero was in one and 413 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:48,500 you allowed her to pass a whole bunch of balls and find a rhythm in that match, which Nebraska 414 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:49,620 never did. 415 00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:53,260 They did not mix up their serving strategy at all. 416 00:26:53,260 --> 00:26:58,620 The passing left side was covering almost half a court by themselves because Penn State 417 00:26:58,620 --> 00:27:01,540 didn't challenge them at all. 418 00:27:01,540 --> 00:27:08,700 As you said, the reason Nebraska's game plan was so effective is because they let the young 419 00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:13,220 freshman libero sit there all set and not pass a ball. 420 00:27:13,220 --> 00:27:20,180 They were making the left sides work so hard to pass, work outside and attack, leaving 421 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:23,700 the libero there to just hang out and guess what? 422 00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:28,940 It iced her because when crunch time came, she was in zero passing rhythm and then all 423 00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:32,940 of a sudden the pressure's on, she hasn't passed a ball all set and now you're expected 424 00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:33,940 to? 425 00:27:33,940 --> 00:27:35,820 That is why Nebraska was effective. 426 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:38,460 Penn State just let the left sides off the hook. 427 00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:43,460 The only thing the attacking left sides had to think about was scoring. 428 00:27:43,460 --> 00:27:44,700 That is it. 429 00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:49,420 And not only scoring, Wisconsin was in system all match. 430 00:27:49,420 --> 00:27:54,960 Charlie ran a good offense, but she was allowed to run a good offense because she was walking 431 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,140 in and making sets. 432 00:27:56,140 --> 00:27:57,600 The passes were perfect. 433 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,180 At some point, Penn State needed to understand that their strategy was not working, that 434 00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:07,740 Wisconsin was in rhythm all match and they needed to try something else because I'm sorry, 435 00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:11,780 if Wisconsin has all three options to hit all match, you won't beat them. 436 00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:12,780 All four. 437 00:28:12,780 --> 00:28:13,780 You won't beat them. 438 00:28:13,780 --> 00:28:14,780 You won't beat them. 439 00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:18,780 Just try serving the passing left side or serve in between zone five and six. 440 00:28:18,780 --> 00:28:19,780 Just try it. 441 00:28:19,780 --> 00:28:25,480 Or maybe serve the middle short, take away that option, serve the passing left side short. 442 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:32,280 You were serving the libero, leaving all attacking options completely free and easy for every 443 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,280 single point. 444 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,780 You didn't even try to take an option away, not even once. 445 00:28:36,780 --> 00:28:37,780 It was mind blowing. 446 00:28:37,780 --> 00:28:41,220 To me, that was a case of somebody looking at a stat sheet and going, all right, this 447 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:42,420 is what we're going to do. 448 00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:47,860 The other thing for me, we've talked about it before and Jess Merzuch has had an incredible 449 00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:52,940 season so far, but we have talked about the fact that Penn State has one go-to hitter 450 00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:55,300 and they do not run a balanced offense. 451 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:57,120 It has worked for them up till now. 452 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,140 She has been outstanding. 453 00:28:59,140 --> 00:29:05,780 This however, definitely plays into Wisconsin's strength, which is their blocking. 454 00:29:05,780 --> 00:29:13,400 When you have one attacker that you set over 50% of your balls, it plays into their strength 455 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,660 and you didn't even try to change anything. 456 00:29:16,660 --> 00:29:21,860 The crazy thing to me too is your second best scorer, Taylor Trammell, you were running 457 00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:27,600 her on a 31 right into Anna Smerec and Carter Booth's block. 458 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,760 You didn't even try to run her on a quick behind. 459 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,860 You didn't keep her right in with the setter. 460 00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:33,980 You didn't run her on anything. 461 00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:36,980 Trammell is incredibly effective at running that 31. 462 00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:40,620 It is her bread and butter attack, but guess what? 463 00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:45,900 You need to prepare for the eventuality that the other team knows that and that they are 464 00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:46,900 going to shut it down. 465 00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:50,740 And let me tell you, they shut it down and she just kept running the same thing. 466 00:29:50,740 --> 00:29:51,740 Move her around. 467 00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:56,860 It was absolutely wild to me that Penn State just kept trying to run the same thing, the 468 00:29:56,860 --> 00:30:02,620 same routes over and over and over again without changing anything. 469 00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:07,700 You essentially allowed them to put their two best blockers right in front of both of 470 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:10,060 your best hitters and they didn't even have to move. 471 00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:11,180 There was no spread. 472 00:30:11,180 --> 00:30:15,900 There was no, we can literally stand here and take care of both of your best hitters. 473 00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,980 It was an awful offensive strategy. 474 00:30:18,980 --> 00:30:25,640 Let's run both of our top attackers right into your top two blockers and then you can 475 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,340 take care of both of them at once and you don't even have to worry about it. 476 00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:34,000 And I mean, there's something to be said for trusting that your best players will get the 477 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,060 job done, but you're running into a great team. 478 00:30:38,060 --> 00:30:40,360 Both of those players are phenomenal blockers. 479 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:46,820 You need to have a secondary strategy as a coaching staff if things go poorly and you 480 00:30:46,820 --> 00:30:49,540 need to be prepared to make an adjustment and they were not. 481 00:30:49,540 --> 00:30:51,540 Well, that's what I was just going to say. 482 00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:56,300 Volleyball is a game of adjustments and it's great to go into a match with a plan, but 483 00:30:56,300 --> 00:31:01,220 you have to have a feel for how the game is progressing and you have to have a good understanding 484 00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:05,460 of what the other team is doing to you and make some moves on the fly. 485 00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:07,220 And Penn State did not do that. 486 00:31:07,220 --> 00:31:12,060 It was insanity to just see them trying the same thing over and over again. 487 00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:15,940 Finally in the third set, they had to move Jess Murzik away. 488 00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:21,220 They completely flipped their rotation to get Jess Murzik lined up with Charlie Furbringer. 489 00:31:21,220 --> 00:31:30,020 I'm sorry, but as a go to hitter, if you have to rotate me away from a block, that is mortifying. 490 00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:31,340 That is mortifying. 491 00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:35,940 Jess Murzik could not find a way to score. 492 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:38,740 We have seen her hit high and deep. 493 00:31:38,740 --> 00:31:42,620 We have seen she's not a player that goes up and hits crazy angles. 494 00:31:42,620 --> 00:31:50,060 We've said that in previous podcast episodes, but her strength comes from her ability to 495 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:52,020 reach high, swing high and deep. 496 00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:57,900 I'm telling you, I think she hit straight into the meat of the block every time. 497 00:31:57,900 --> 00:31:58,900 Straight. 498 00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:00,900 Wasn't looking for hands, wasn't hitting high. 499 00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:05,300 It was hitting Anna Smreks left hand and Carter Booth's right hand right where it met. 500 00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,660 Girl, you need to find a way to score here. 501 00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:12,460 Izzy Stark should have moved that set about a foot off the net for her from her normal 502 00:32:12,460 --> 00:32:13,460 set. 503 00:32:13,460 --> 00:32:17,860 Normally you can go up and swing for hands when the ball's in that location if the blockers 504 00:32:17,860 --> 00:32:21,900 aren't 6'9 and 6'7 and very good blockers. 505 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:25,260 Move the ball off from your normal set so you can go up. 506 00:32:25,260 --> 00:32:28,460 You'll get the same visual of the block hands in front of you and you'll have a little bit 507 00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:29,900 more space to work with. 508 00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:33,220 Again, to me there were no adjustments. 509 00:32:33,220 --> 00:32:36,460 They just kept trying to do the same thing without changing anything. 510 00:32:36,460 --> 00:32:39,980 At the beginning of the second set, Wisconsin just started running away with it. 511 00:32:39,980 --> 00:32:44,020 I think at one point it was like 15-2 or something like that. 512 00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:50,920 The solution, because Jess Merzuch was having just a really tough time, the solution was 513 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,340 to put Merzuch on the right side and then to make Izzy Stark play left side. 514 00:32:56,340 --> 00:32:57,800 Well, guess what? 515 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,020 In transition, guess who got the ball? 516 00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:01,020 Anna Smreks. 517 00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:04,720 We're talking Izzy Stark, the setter blocking. 518 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:11,740 It was just kind of mind boggling watching the panic ensue. 519 00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:17,420 It felt panicked, the coaching staff had no idea how to get out of trouble. 520 00:33:17,420 --> 00:33:21,700 Top that off, they had zero blocks as a team. 521 00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:23,380 Nothing went well for them. 522 00:33:23,380 --> 00:33:31,340 I understand you have matches like this where nothing goes right, but it can't be this match. 523 00:33:31,340 --> 00:33:36,780 You can't play somebody who you might play to get into the quarter or the semi-finals 524 00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:39,940 of the tournament and put that performance on the floor. 525 00:33:39,940 --> 00:33:45,940 When you look at your schedule, you circle three or four matches in the season and go, 526 00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:48,420 we need to peak for this match. 527 00:33:48,420 --> 00:33:50,060 That should have been one of them. 528 00:33:50,060 --> 00:33:52,140 I understand the schedule is heavy. 529 00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:57,980 I understand you're playing a lot of matches, but there are certain teams that you need 530 00:33:57,980 --> 00:34:02,240 to be preparing for the entire season. 531 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,660 If you're in the Big Ten, you're watching every single one of Nebraska. 532 00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:13,700 If you're in the top half, let's say, if you're competing for that Big Ten championship, 533 00:34:13,700 --> 00:34:15,660 you are watching Nebraska play every match. 534 00:34:15,660 --> 00:34:17,740 You're watching Wisconsin play every match. 535 00:34:17,740 --> 00:34:19,660 You're watching Penn State play every match. 536 00:34:19,660 --> 00:34:24,540 It's not just, oh, we played yesterday, let's try to throw something together. 537 00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:28,900 I'm not saying that this is what happened, but that's what it looked like happened. 538 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:29,900 Yeah. 539 00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:35,660 Clearly, their staff prepared for the match, but whatever you did was not effective. 540 00:34:35,660 --> 00:34:38,260 Okay, moving on to Wisconsin. 541 00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:41,620 Completely different team than we saw last weekend against Nebraska. 542 00:34:41,620 --> 00:34:44,900 What do you think some of the big differences were? 543 00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:46,340 I think it was passing. 544 00:34:46,340 --> 00:34:54,020 You allowed Charlie Furbringer to run an offense, and you weren't putting her under duress. 545 00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:55,060 They controlled the ball. 546 00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:57,260 They controlled the first pass. 547 00:34:57,260 --> 00:35:02,540 Let me tell you, when Wisconsin has three options as a threat, they're very hard to 548 00:35:02,540 --> 00:35:03,540 beat. 549 00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:10,220 And my big takeaway was that they ran the middle, but again, that all stems from the 550 00:35:10,220 --> 00:35:11,220 pass. 551 00:35:11,220 --> 00:35:14,940 It was very challenging for Charlie Furbringer to run the middle against Nebraska because 552 00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:20,220 the passing was just so bad, but they were able to run the middle, and she was able to 553 00:35:20,220 --> 00:35:22,340 get into a rhythm running them. 554 00:35:22,340 --> 00:35:27,420 So when the pass maybe wasn't perfect, she was still forcing them because she had developed 555 00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:29,260 that rhythm early in the match. 556 00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:34,340 See, it's actually interesting that you say that because that's how it felt watching the 557 00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:39,340 match, but they still only ran the middle 15% of the time. 558 00:35:39,340 --> 00:35:41,380 And so this is the thing for us. 559 00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:43,920 How many sets did the middles get in this match though? 560 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:49,140 Because in the match against Nebraska, the whole middle got 13 balls. 561 00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:51,060 So they got 15. 562 00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:52,060 What? 563 00:35:52,060 --> 00:35:53,060 Yeah. 564 00:35:53,060 --> 00:35:54,100 But this is... 565 00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:55,820 But they were an option. 566 00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:58,000 And that's the difference to me, right? 567 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,760 And let me clarify that 14 balls does not include the rotations where Anna Smirak hits 568 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,900 out of the middle. 569 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:08,740 So Crawford and Booth got that number of sets in those three sets. 570 00:36:08,740 --> 00:36:13,820 However, to your point, both of those middles can attack, and when they are a close option, 571 00:36:13,820 --> 00:36:16,860 you have to honor them as a blocker. 572 00:36:16,860 --> 00:36:20,760 And so I personally think they need to run the middle a little bit more, especially against 573 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,940 good teams, but the fact that they're a threat opens everything else up. 574 00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:29,400 We mentioned Wisconsin's strength as they're blocking. 575 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,940 They got 11 blocks in three sets. 576 00:36:33,940 --> 00:36:37,100 Uncoverable blocks too, might I add. 577 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:39,900 Those things were hitting the ground before the hitters were. 578 00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:46,380 They were locked in and Penn State made it easy for them to get those blocks. 579 00:36:46,380 --> 00:36:50,380 Smirak and Booth were phenomenal at the net. 580 00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:51,460 Nothing got past them. 581 00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:56,940 And when Charlie was digging as well as she is, Smirak could leave that line for the attacker, 582 00:36:56,940 --> 00:37:00,100 cover more of the cross court, and Charlie was making digs. 583 00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:04,460 They executed their game plan flawlessly against Penn State. 584 00:37:04,460 --> 00:37:09,540 They're going to need to continue to do that and continue to put service pressure on, because 585 00:37:09,540 --> 00:37:13,740 if they can get a solid block up on outside hitters against other teams, life is miserable 586 00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:14,740 for those hitters. 587 00:37:14,740 --> 00:37:18,780 I will say for Wisconsin, this was a really important match for them. 588 00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:26,820 How they responded as a team after what Nebraska put them through at home was important. 589 00:37:26,820 --> 00:37:32,660 They needed to have a response in this game and to be able to do it against another top 590 00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:38,940 ranked opponent in the Big Ten, this is a confidence win for them as a team. 591 00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:41,180 They executed at a high level. 592 00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:44,680 They attacked, they blocked, they played well. 593 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,100 They feel really good right now. 594 00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:52,580 And I'm very curious to see what the game in Lincoln looks like now. 595 00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:54,660 I was critical of Lola Schumacher last week. 596 00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:56,180 I did not think she played well. 597 00:37:56,180 --> 00:38:03,060 I think her passing trouble down the stretch was a big reason why Wisconsin gave up runs 598 00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:06,180 of points at the end of sets against Nebraska. 599 00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:10,160 But I will say she was much improved this week. 600 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,060 Was it because she was getting served so much more? 601 00:38:13,060 --> 00:38:14,620 She was able to get into a rhythm? 602 00:38:14,620 --> 00:38:16,860 Is it because she knew the ball was coming to her? 603 00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:18,460 Like I don't know what it was. 604 00:38:18,460 --> 00:38:22,860 She did take care of business from a serve receive perspective and was much better than 605 00:38:22,860 --> 00:38:24,700 she was against Nebraska. 606 00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:27,940 And I think this is going to be one of the keys for Wisconsin this year. 607 00:38:27,940 --> 00:38:35,700 You've got two freshmen in important positions and your supporting cast is experienced and 608 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:41,140 they need to be able to put those two in a position to be successful with as little stress 609 00:38:41,140 --> 00:38:42,240 as possible. 610 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,040 They need to pass well for Charlie. 611 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,780 They need to help Schumacher in the rotation. 612 00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:49,860 Don't give her too much to start because teams are going to come and pick on them. 613 00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:52,940 I mean, I'm assuming Nebraska will use a similar game plan. 614 00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:53,940 I'm curious. 615 00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:55,900 I mean, you said you're curious to see what happens now. 616 00:38:55,900 --> 00:39:01,260 I don't know if it'll be a different story because I can't see Nebraska letting the left 617 00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:03,540 sides off the hook from a passing perspective. 618 00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:05,120 Give them complete credit. 619 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,220 Big turnaround. 620 00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:11,460 They cleaned up some issues that we had discussed in the Nebraska match. 621 00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:18,340 Honestly, I think Penn State strategy or lack thereof definitely helped them fix some of 622 00:39:18,340 --> 00:39:20,420 the issues we saw against Nebraska. 623 00:39:20,420 --> 00:39:22,020 But it'll be interesting to see. 624 00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:24,260 Well it's time for my favorite part of the show. 625 00:39:24,260 --> 00:39:25,460 Game time. 626 00:39:25,460 --> 00:39:30,060 And we are going to play verify or veto today. 627 00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:31,060 Are you ready? 628 00:39:31,060 --> 00:39:32,220 I got five questions for you. 629 00:39:32,220 --> 00:39:36,700 You will either verify the statement or veto the statement and give me the reasons for 630 00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:37,700 your opinion. 631 00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:38,700 OK. 632 00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:44,620 Let's get on. Kansas goes less than 500 in their last five matches and they have remaining 633 00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:54,900 on the schedule TCU 18, Baylor 17, K-State unranked, BYU at 21, and Iowa State unranked. 634 00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:56,700 Oh man. 635 00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:58,420 Just quick thinking. 636 00:39:58,420 --> 00:40:09,300 TCU, Baylor, and BYU all have super powered left sides in Melanie Parra, Elise McGee, 637 00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:10,780 and Claire Little. 638 00:40:10,780 --> 00:40:16,420 The fate of Kansas will depend on how those teams decide to line up those hitters. 639 00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:22,180 I think if they line them up with Cameron Turner it will not go well for Kansas. 640 00:40:22,180 --> 00:40:29,180 But my thought is if I'm those coaches I believe that each of those three hitters can score 641 00:40:29,180 --> 00:40:35,580 no matter who is up there and so that they will probably put their lower producing left 642 00:40:35,580 --> 00:40:43,140 side up against the setter which definitely favors Kansas or plays into their favor. 643 00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:45,020 Will they lose all three of those? 644 00:40:45,020 --> 00:40:46,700 I think they'll beat Iowa State. 645 00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:48,460 I think they'll beat K-State. 646 00:40:48,460 --> 00:40:49,460 No. 647 00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:51,140 I think they'll win at least one of those three. 648 00:40:51,140 --> 00:40:52,540 I'm going to say Vito. 649 00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:53,540 I would agree. 650 00:40:53,540 --> 00:40:57,260 I think they're going to go one and three in those matches but they'll put them over. 651 00:40:57,260 --> 00:40:58,260 One out of three? 652 00:40:58,260 --> 00:40:59,260 Yeah. 653 00:40:59,260 --> 00:41:00,260 Okay. 654 00:41:00,260 --> 00:41:01,260 Number two. 655 00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:04,820 Fourth place in the Big Ten looks like it's going to come down to Purdue or Oregon. 656 00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:07,980 They play one last time before the tournament. 657 00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:12,100 Oregon finishes ahead of Purdue in the standings. 658 00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:13,100 Oh man. 659 00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:14,100 Okay. 660 00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:19,420 So watching Oregon they have one very strong middle. 661 00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:20,420 She's big. 662 00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:21,420 She's going very fast really well. 663 00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:22,860 She was going very effectively. 664 00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:27,700 They also have Mimi Collier as their go to left side. 665 00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:32,420 When I think about Purdue both of their middles are strong blockers. 666 00:41:32,420 --> 00:41:39,740 Their left sides in Chacoin and Hudson are very good offensively. 667 00:41:39,740 --> 00:41:43,820 I mean I think the standings are probably going to come down to that match as you kind 668 00:41:43,820 --> 00:41:45,220 of alluded to. 669 00:41:45,220 --> 00:41:47,580 I think Purdue is going to come out on top. 670 00:41:47,580 --> 00:41:49,500 I'm going to Vito that one as well. 671 00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:50,500 Okay. 672 00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:51,500 Number three. 673 00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:53,540 Wisconsin's loss to Nebraska was an anomaly. 674 00:41:53,540 --> 00:41:57,180 They are a legitimate contender for the national championship. 675 00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:58,700 Whoa. 676 00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:02,060 Maybe this can be my hot take for the week too. 677 00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:03,780 So this is my hot take. 678 00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:08,540 I actually think that the Penn State match is an anomaly for Wisconsin. 679 00:42:08,540 --> 00:42:14,060 I have watched Wisconsin play many matches this season and I have not seen them look 680 00:42:14,060 --> 00:42:17,940 like that at all until the Penn State match. 681 00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:23,220 Maybe the Nebraska match was like lit a fire that they needed and like they've completely 682 00:42:23,220 --> 00:42:24,940 changed I don't know. 683 00:42:24,940 --> 00:42:29,700 But based on the evidence that I have and the observations I have made of that team 684 00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:32,260 all season and I said it a few weeks ago. 685 00:42:32,260 --> 00:42:35,740 This Wisconsin team is not the team that we have seen in recent years. 686 00:42:35,740 --> 00:42:38,500 They just are not that dominant. 687 00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:42,940 The other thing to think about too is the NCAA is going to set it up to make sure that 688 00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:46,840 not more than two teams from any given conference get to go to the final four. 689 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,720 They want diversity among the conferences. 690 00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:53,620 Given how I'm assuming the tournament is going to be set up they're going to have to go through 691 00:42:53,620 --> 00:42:57,640 either Nebraska or Penn State to make the final four. 692 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,920 I think it's going to come down to how that all plays out. 693 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,600 I don't think they will defeat Nebraska to go to the final four. 694 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,760 I think if it comes down to Penn State because of Penn State's reliance on Jess Merzik if 695 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,500 they have to go through Penn State I think they have a chance of making the final four. 696 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:21,200 But there are too many variables that have to go their way to even make it there and 697 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,900 then to win once you're there I don't think they're going to make it. 698 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:25,900 Veto. 699 00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:27,580 I need to come up with some other questions. 700 00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:28,820 You've been vetoing them all. 701 00:43:28,820 --> 00:43:32,740 But I verified like every single one when we started this game like way back. 702 00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:33,740 True. 703 00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:35,300 At least you're consistent. 704 00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:36,300 Number four. 705 00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:39,740 The race for the number one spot in the ACC is heating up and as we look to the end of 706 00:43:39,740 --> 00:43:46,020 November Pitt is going to have a rematch with Louisville in Louisville on November 27th. 707 00:43:46,020 --> 00:43:51,120 Pitt remains the number one team in the ACC going into the tournament. 708 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:57,340 So Louisville and Pitt have lost one match each in ACC play? 709 00:43:57,340 --> 00:43:58,340 Correct. 710 00:43:58,340 --> 00:44:00,780 Right now both teams are 13 and 1. 711 00:44:00,780 --> 00:44:02,300 Oh dang. 712 00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:05,460 My assumption is that's the match for first place in the ACC. 713 00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:10,420 I think Pitt is a stronger team than Louisville but there is something to be said about playing 714 00:44:10,420 --> 00:44:11,420 at home. 715 00:44:11,420 --> 00:44:14,540 There's clearly animosity between those two teams. 716 00:44:14,540 --> 00:44:17,420 Oh dang this is a good question. 717 00:44:17,420 --> 00:44:18,420 No. 718 00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:22,980 I have made the statement here before that I think that Pitt is going to win the national 719 00:44:22,980 --> 00:44:25,420 championship so I need to stick by that. 720 00:44:25,420 --> 00:44:27,620 I'm going to say verify. 721 00:44:27,620 --> 00:44:29,300 Last question of the game. 722 00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:30,300 Number five. 723 00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:35,860 Jess Merzik's performance versus Wisconsin takes her out of the running for player of 724 00:44:35,860 --> 00:44:36,860 the year. 725 00:44:36,860 --> 00:44:39,780 Well first of all I don't think she'll win player of the year unless they make the final 726 00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:44,540 four and even then it depends on who else makes the final four too. 727 00:44:44,540 --> 00:44:47,660 Do I think it will come down to that one match? 728 00:44:47,660 --> 00:44:48,660 No. 729 00:44:48,660 --> 00:44:49,660 Veto. 730 00:44:49,660 --> 00:44:53,280 You can't deny the fact that she's had an outstanding season. 731 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,660 She was terrible against Wisconsin don't get me wrong but I don't think that that will 732 00:44:58,660 --> 00:45:02,460 derail her hopes of winning player of the year. 733 00:45:02,460 --> 00:45:06,260 I think if she doesn't make it to the final four that will derail it. 734 00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:07,260 Fair enough. 735 00:45:07,260 --> 00:45:11,300 Well that's all the questions I had for Verifier Veto for today. 736 00:45:11,300 --> 00:45:17,620 I would love to hear other people's perspective on those questions and what the general consensus 737 00:45:17,620 --> 00:45:19,060 is. 738 00:45:19,060 --> 00:45:26,460 Alright you guys kind of heard my hot take in the Verifier Veto segment but Adam has 739 00:45:26,460 --> 00:45:28,180 a hot take this week. 740 00:45:28,180 --> 00:45:35,700 I saw several middle on middle solo attack block situations this week. 741 00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:42,940 I am seeing middle blockers jump straight up when they're one on one in the middle. 742 00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:46,460 My hot take is you're doing nothing. 743 00:45:46,460 --> 00:45:49,300 No middles hit straight to six. 744 00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:50,960 They assume that somebody's going to be there. 745 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,600 They see your body. 746 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:58,460 Middles if you're one on one you need to pick away and you need to take some space away. 747 00:45:58,460 --> 00:46:03,740 It sets up your defense so that you know which way you can shift and who's responsible for 748 00:46:03,740 --> 00:46:04,740 what. 749 00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:09,540 Jumping straight up in the air on a one on one in the middle specifically on a 51 is 750 00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:10,540 more or less useless. 751 00:46:10,540 --> 00:46:14,100 I can 100% get behind that hot take. 752 00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:17,020 You just watch and their arms go in the air and the middle hits the five. 753 00:46:17,020 --> 00:46:21,660 If you want to funnel them to the libero that's fine but drop a hand one way give them a different 754 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:26,380 look they can see your body move your hands do something other than just take that space 755 00:46:26,380 --> 00:46:27,380 away. 756 00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:32,940 Middles blocking in the middle should not look like a middle blocking the outside. 757 00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:38,140 Outside blockers if you're a pin blocker you need to go over straight because your middle 758 00:46:38,140 --> 00:46:39,380 is closing to you. 759 00:46:39,380 --> 00:46:44,160 If you're a middle closing to the outside you're just creating a wall. 760 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,380 Your defense knows where to go. 761 00:46:45,380 --> 00:46:50,820 If you are a middle playing a one on one against another middle attacker pick a side. 762 00:46:50,820 --> 00:46:54,740 Thank you for saying that it has been driving me crazy as well. 763 00:46:54,740 --> 00:46:57,280 Is it a hot take or is it just facts? 764 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,700 I would like to argue that that is not a hot take and everybody needs to take note. 765 00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:07,460 Every time you see a middle pick a side they either get a stuff block or the defense makes 766 00:47:07,460 --> 00:47:11,140 a dig because they actually know what their responsibilities are. 767 00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:12,140 Thank you. 768 00:47:12,140 --> 00:47:18,700 All right coming up this week we've got a lot of matches that we are excited about. 769 00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:26,620 So Kansas as Adam mentioned earlier is hosting TCU and Baylor this week on Wednesday and 770 00:47:26,620 --> 00:47:28,760 Saturday respectively. 771 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:34,300 We have USC taking on Wisconsin on Thursday and Oregon on Sunday. 772 00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:39,740 Florida State has got the heavy ACC schedule this week and they are traveling playing Pitt 773 00:47:39,740 --> 00:47:42,780 on Friday and SMU on Sunday. 774 00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:48,240 And finally we have Nebraska and Minnesota facing off in Lincoln on Thursday. 775 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,020 This will be a very interesting test for Minnesota given the week they've just had. 776 00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:55,420 You know what I didn't even want to put this on the list I'm not going to lie because 777 00:47:55,420 --> 00:47:58,820 I feel like Minnesota is really going to fall in the ranking and I don't think it's going 778 00:47:58,820 --> 00:48:02,080 to be an outstanding match but like why not? 779 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,100 You know why not put it down? 780 00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:06,380 That concludes this week's episode of Volley Talk. 781 00:48:06,380 --> 00:48:10,460 There's always something shaking in the volleyball world and we hope that you enjoy this little 782 00:48:10,460 --> 00:48:11,580 fix. 783 00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:15,820 Be sure to follow the show so you don't miss any updates and we would 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