Hello everybody and welcome to the actual first episode of Kamisa and Mark
Make a podcast. I am Mark. I'm Kamesa. How are you today? I am great. You are great.
I am great too. We are doing this right now from the comforts of a hotel room in
Tom's River, New Jersey. Yeah, we are far away from Florida, but let me explain
why we are doing this from here and not in the safeness of her own home. It was
my 40th high school class reunion up here. Yes, we're all we all got a little
older. Every five years that always seems to happen. We always get older, but I
can't I can't thank the people who put this together, mainly Kelly and Dina, for
doing this and securing the place that we had this in in Seaside at the Ocean
View this Saturday night. They got in this like eight months in advance and you
know it was kind of skeptical because I've never been there before, but then
again the place that we held it five years earlier in Seaside never been
there either. So what were your think what what did you think of the place
first off? First, I thought the place was really interesting. I really liked
the vibe in the place. I just did not like the lack of service. Yeah, we had a
problem. I'll explain what happened when she explains it like this. We had looked
for our server. We were told, I think it was Kelly who told us that if we sat down
at one of the seats, we would be able to be served. You know, somebody would notice
us. So we were sitting there with two other of my classmates, Chantel and
Mary Ellen. We're waiting for food. We're waiting and we're waiting and I had to
get up a couple of times to say, hey, we're over here. Could you please serve us?
Nothing. So I, you know, they had already gotten up. The other two, they had gotten
up and left. So I told Kamisa, let's just go across the street, find some food.
Okay. Well, originally we were going to go across the boardwalk, but she didn't
really want pizza. And of course we're going to be doing pizza tonight. I'm on
the last night here. But she wasn't into it. And I was honest, I really wasn't up
to it. I didn't say anything else, but and so we went across the street on Central
Avenue or the main drag. It's not central, by the way. And we decided we're going to
go to Stakes Unlimited right across. Now, they're a wonderful place. I've only
really eaten there one other time, but if you remember the Bon Jovi video, the
music video for In and Out of Love from the 7800 Fahrenheit album in 1985, that's
when they did the video. Of course, Seaside Heights was a much different place
back then than it is now. Yeah, but that's where they did a couple of scenes
from that music video. So we sat down and, you know, we ate pretty well, don't you
think? Yeah, we did. I mean, I felt like the cheese steak was great. The fries
were good. Yeah, I know you didn't like that. You thought it was too much bread.
Yeah, it was just a twee too much bread. I, you know, that's why I said you
want to split one because I knew one was too big for you. Yes, I, you know, full
disclosure, I'm on Ozenpik. So it really limits how much I eat. So yeah, I
do not like sandwiches that are more bread than anything. Yeah, and you get
those situations in some places and I'm not just saying it happens in my home
state of New Jersey, okay, but it does happen in other places as well and you
almost feel like you're ripped off at that point. Yeah. It's a tough
choice, but we actually enjoyed it. We had, I haven't had a cheese steak in a
couple of hot minutes, but you know, it was really good. You know, we had that, we
had the fries, we basically ate and went across back to where we were and,
you know, I got to mingle a little better with the people that were there. At
least I wasn't doing it on an empty stomach. So that worked out very well in
that regard and, you know, we were there till about, you know, this thing started
around seven o'clock. We got there about quarter after seven and, you know, we were
there till about 11.15, 11.20 when we realized that it was just getting colder.
It really was and, you know, I look at her and I said, you, how are you feeling?
She was saying, getting tired and I said, okay, fine, we'll go. You know, by that
point we were thinning out and we had another place to go in Maureen's place
the next day. So we left and came back here, but you know, it was it was a
fantastic night. I want to clear up something for the people that were there
that saw us there and didn't think that this this woman next to me was not
having fun. I don't care who you are, you know, you could be the friendliest
person on the planet, but if you're in a room with complete strangers and you're
doing your best to, you know, try to fit in, it is not easy. Well, you know, I
constantly told Mark that I was fine and that, you know, I was entertaining myself.
Yeah, you know, it's, I first off I want to thank those who were concerned and
really want her to fit in and, you know, a couple of them came up to me and she said,
you having any fun? I said, well, you have to understand something. It's a
different scenario altogether that when you're the outsider looking in, right?
Right. Yeah, you're the outsider looking in. You have, it's a disadvantage. Now,
let's just say the roles were reversed. Okay. I'm the guest. I'm the plus one.
She's the one part of the class. You know, it's gonna be hard for me to kind of fit
in. I'm not gonna lie to you. I mean, I didn't grow up in Mississippi. She did. I
grew up in New Jersey. She didn't. And it's two different worlds out there. But,
you know, I do my best, but, you know, don't want to be the class dork either.
So I don't want to feel like I'm putting a bad name on her because of that. So I
could understand where she comes from on that regard. It is tough to try to be the
the guy that, you know, how to explain that. I mean, well, I think you explained it
well enough. But I mean, you know, you're right. I mean, you know, I didn't go to
school in New Jersey. I didn't grow up in New Jersey. My main objective was
honestly, I wanted Mark to have a great time in his reunion. I did not want to
feel like he was responsible for me, no, or your happiness. And, you know, I found
myself having to do that a couple of times. But, you know, I the basic thing is,
yes, I know she wants me to have a good time. But I also have to check back with
her to make sure that she's fine. I mean, you don't want to ignore somebody at the
party for two hours that you brought. But I but you didn't ignore me. I mean, I
wasn't ignored. I mean, again, I know how to entertain myself. I mean, you know, I
was an 80s kid. So, you know, I grew up learning how to entertain myself because,
you know, in the 80s, we didn't have the internet. We didn't have cell phone. We
didn't have social media. And of course, you know, I was the weirdo kid anyway.
Yeah. And a gifted program. I'll say that. Yes, I was. I was the weirdo child. Oh,
please. And I was like the weirdo in a class full of smart kids. So, yes, I was
one of the smart weirdos. Smart. That's a good way of putting it. Smart weirdo. Or
is that just dork? That might be just dork. I don't know. But, you know, I was,
I was a weirdo because, you know, I preferred hanging out with people my
grandmother's age and other grownups as opposed to hanging out with my peers. I
preferred watching PBS and not like the kids shows on PBS like Sesame Street and
Mr. Rogers, even though I was and still am a big fan of those shows. Sure. But I
also watched, you know, Frontline and McNeil Lair News Hour. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You
know, it was called the McNeil Lair News Report back then. But, you know, I was a
fan of those shows too. Yeah. You know, and so that just made me kind of weird.
Mm hmm. So, you know, at, you know, so at the reunion, Mark was having fun and
chatting up, chatting up his classmates, excuse me. And, you know, I chatted up a
few of his classmates as well. But, you know, while they were all chatting and
getting reacquaint with one another, you know, I was having a great time watching
college football. That's right. They had enough TV screens up there for her to
watch, including the Gators. My goodness. Oh, that's a tragedy. The Gators had that
game. They were right there with Dennis. Oh my God. Oh my goodness. And they wound up
losing it over time. You know, there was all this concern about Billy Napier's
job about a month or so ago. And, you know, I think he's kind of proven that his
players, I should say, have proven that he deserves to have this whole year for
himself. And then whatever happens at the end of the year happens at the end of
the year. They did not, they played a tough game start to finish. I mean, yeah,
you know, the Gators fought, in my opinion, the Gators fought until the very end.
They didn't just lay down and just roll over. Yeah. No. I mean, you know, it was a
loss to Tennessee, but, you know, they fought. Yeah. They fought like hell. Yeah.
So, you know, I was watching that. I was watching Ohio State in Oregon. Oh, what a
game that was. Yes, that was such a good game. What an unusual finish. The
quarterback from Ohio State thought he had more time on the clock than he'd had.
And he's trying to run for yardage and when he, God, must have felt like the
loneliest person in that stadium in Oregon last night or Saturday night when
all of a sudden he looks up and there's no time left on the clock. He gets the
first down. Yay. But the clock was at zero. So that was kind of a, that was a
weird moment, especially when one of my classmates, Terese, she's got one of her
triplets. She had triplets and he's, he's at Ohio State now and she's just like,
what happened, Mark? What happened? Please tell me what happened. And I said, well,
you know, it's kind of like that Boomtown Rats song. I don't like Mondays. The
Silicon chip inside his head got, yeah, you get it. But it was, yeah, I couldn't
believe I was watching that ending. Next thing you know, there are all those
Oregon fans on the field. Just having a ball. I'm gonna blast. So yeah, that was,
you know, she was entertaining herself there. I got to entertain her a little bit.
We got to go dancing. Oh my God, we are dancing. Yeah. To her all time favorite song. Yes. She loves,
she loves her some Whitney. I want to dance with somebody. So I said, okay,
let's dance. Let's go ahead and do that. So we did that for about five, ten minutes.
My legs, you know, you thought that I gave up aerobics for a reason. Now I come
back and now my legs were like hurting for the rest of the night. I mean, you know,
the way my knees are set up. I can't dance like I used to myself. So if I were only
a weeble, you know, I just fall down, come right back up, you know, bounce right back.
But that's neither here nor there. But no, I had a lot of good, it was a good time on
Saturday night. I had a blast. I saw people there I hadn't seen since
graduation day in 1984. That's 40 years. And you're trying to put that in perspective.
You know, was I disappointed that there were some people that did not show up
because they made other plans and, you know, this was planned out eight months
in advance. This isn't like her 30th reunion, which was basically planned out
what four or five weeks. Yes. Oh my God. We'll talk about that in a bit. But, you
know, they all made their plans to go elsewhere and all sorts of reasons why.
And I get it. Weddings, vacations, celebrations, blah, blah, blah. But you
know what, as I said, all these places that they went to or are going to, they're
still going to be there, you know. This is at the day after like my senior year in
high school in which the bomb dropped and like all of a sudden everybody was
like, well, could this really happen in real life? Not really anymore. But, you
know, never say never either. I, this was just for one night, one weekend, we all
got to hang out at Maureen's the next day on Sunday. She entertained
herself the book. Yes. I brought a thick novel that I bought from Thrift Books.
You know, quick plug for them. I love them. Thriftbooks.com. But again,
she doing okay. And she had some of my friends ask her, are you okay? And they
said, you know, she told them she was fine. She just, you know, we got to eat there.
We had a good time. We really did. And we were there till about, gosh, 6.20.
Yes. I thought it was 6.30 myself. Close to 6.30. Yeah. Yeah. We got back in and,
you know, for about an hour, I was up and, you know, doing whatever and
you know, everything was all fine and dandy. And I remember talking to my
sister online and went down, you know, sat down here in the bed to watch the
giant game. I knew the Mets were on, but I was going to turn back to them
eventually. It was the Giants and Bengals had the Sunday Night Game on TV.
Next thing I know, it was 10 to 11. I had fallen asleep for about almost
three hours. Apparently I was in overdrive and I needed to slow down.
So watch the end of that game. Boy, the Giants are going to, how do you give a
game like that away? Well, you know, they can ask the Jaguars for tips. Don't get me
started on the Jaguars. Oh my gosh. Everything that could possibly go wrong.
And apparently the 35-16 score that Jaguars lost to the Bears by in London
was much closer than that because they dropped apparently four touchdown
passes. You know, I really did not need to know that. Yeah, which tells me this
ain't all on Trevor. It is not all on Trevor. And I'm, it's why Jaguar fans are
just like stupefied if that's the word. I mean, you know, I will always hold on to
the assertion that the Jaguars got cursed by some kind of swamp witch. Which year?
I don't know. Was it every year? I mean, how else can you explain 2018 when we
were a heartbeat away from the Super Bowl? I know. I know I was there. We cursed some kind of swamp
witch and that's why we just have all these terrible seasons. And except for
2022. Yeah, you know, which wasn't bad. You know, hey, one division, one a first
round game, dramatic fashion in the playoffs. And you know, if they had a
little extra time, who knows what could have happened against the future
Super Bowl champion, Kansas City Chiefs. But it is what it is. And of course, you
know, last year was the ultimate collapse in this year. It just seems that
that has fallen into that. You realize the Jaguars have won just two games, two, I
believe in the last 11. Oh my God. It is hard to fathom. Not what's hard is being
a Jaguar fan. It's kind of like saying you're sorry every day, isn't it? Yes. I
mean, you know, right now, the Jaguars are sorry. But you know, I love them. You
know, I'm always gonna be Duval till I die. But sometimes. And it's hard to,
especially yesterday, because we were at the get together at Maureen's place.
And Dina, who was one of the co co founders, if you will, of this of this
get together Saturday night, she and her husband are big Bears fans. So I
mean, I said, you're given the Bears scored 35 points. That's a that that
should be celebrated of anything. And you know, I don't have words
anymore for this. I said, you give up 35 points to the Bears. Something is wrong
with you. So yeah, it's just it's hard to struggle. But we had a good time
yesterday. Yes. And you know, like I said, I came home back to the hotel. I
collapsed for about three hours, saw the end of the Giants game. Then we went out
to at least I did. I went out to White Castle, which is like, yeah, no more than
about a quarter of a mile down the road from where we're standing, where we are
right now. So you know, how we don't have except for one in Orlando, we don't
have a White Castle. And so I'm over there. And I said, okay, I'm just gonna get
eight burgers and a couple of drinks. All right, no big deal. First off, the
partition that they had used to have they had there for years and years and
years and years. They've replaced that with just a regular non window to, you
know, kind of it looks like what you come up to almost at every restaurant at
this point is and on top of everything else. They have these these fancy
machines in which you put a hand in front of it. And you you get napkins. You've
seen them, haven't you? No. No. Oh, they're fancy. You just, you know, it's like when
you get towel in the bathroom at a public place and it just comes down. Well,
this thing wasn't working. So oh my God. Yeah. The tragedy is, okay, can we get some
towels to go with this or napkin napkins and yeah, they they were able to do
that, but it was taking a little extra time to make these burgers and all that.
But eventually we did. Got out of there and got back and it wasn't much. Four
burgers is just starting for me from a white castle, but it was enough. And
eventually by about two in the morning I fell asleep and that was about it. I
think I was knocked out before that. Oh, you were well knocked out before then. You know,
little did I know how much an overdrive I'd been since Friday morning. And now
Sunday night I was like out like a light. But we we managed. We managed, got up.
And you know, today was was the start of a good day. I think we we did pretty well
with that. Gonna see my sister again. She's come over here and now she will be
we'll be going to her place tonight Monday. We're gonna be doing these on
Sundays, okay? Because come Sunday morning at about five o'clock, she's got to take
her kid to school and then she's off to do teaching things. And I get to drop her
other son off at work and his workplace. And then yeah, it's off back to
Plaka for me for what I'm planning to do for the rest of the you know, for the
rest of the day. That's that's usually on a Monday, but this is a different Monday.
So we're we're gonna try to do this as best as we can. As our podcast is kind
of like, how do we put it like Seinfeld? It's a lot about nothing. We're just
making this stuff up as we go along here. So we had this little thing called
Hurricane Milton that came through the state of Florida. And first off, anybody
who is listening to this and has loved ones in the area in which Milton kind of
chewed up land and made water all over the place and really did damage. Anybody
who lives in those areas or knows somebody that lives in those areas, first
off, I hope things are going to get better for you. I really do because
it's kind of hard, especially trying to start up again and especially after
Haleen had just gone through and poked its hands out at the area to kind of do
some damage as well. I mean, so you know to those people that are in Tampa that
are in those surrounding areas, you know, our thoughts and our prayers are with
you all. Yeah. I mean, it came in as a Hurricane 3 now as a cat 3. Now cat 3 is
anywhere from about 115 to 130 miles an hour. All I know about that kind of
speed is A, I've never attained it in a car and B, there ain't no way I'm hitting
that fastball from 60 feet six inches. So don't don't even start
thinking about that. That's just unrealistic. But that's what our
hurricanes have been about in the last 10 years or so. It's been all about how
fast and how hard they come in. And we escaped. Well, did you have your
power the whole time? Yes, I did have my power the whole time. I mean, she's up in
Jacksonville, which got further and further away. Saw rain? Yes. Saw wind? A little.
Okay, you can't really see wind, but you could feel it. You could hear it. Well, I
didn't really hear it. I more so felt it than anything. The funny thing is, Mark,
is that I overprepared for Milton. Oh, I know you did. I know you did. I mean,
you're asking me all these questions. First off, we're worried about our flight.
Our flight was on Saturday morning. Our flight, you know, everything was going to
be pending on the whatever damage there might have been from Milton, which was on
a Wednesday going into Thursday morning. We didn't know. None of us knew. But we
kind of had an idea that whatever damage was going to happen in Northeast
Florida was going to be minimal unless you lived right on the shore. Now, if you
lived on the shore, God bless you. And I hope that that water subsides, you
know, subsides pretty quickly. Yeah. But that's the thing. Hurricanes are
unpredictable. You don't know what path they are. And I think NOAA and the
National Hurricane Center, they do a tremendous job in tracking them down. Yes.
Yes. It's just, you know, can't say enough about what they do. So we got
through it. But on my end, because I'm further south, I'm about an hour south
from here. We lost power. We got the rain part of the rain really pounded us in
the evening on Wednesday. But somewhere around midnight, it really switched up.
And now we were getting the winds and we were probably getting the winds to
excess like 55, 60 miles an hour. And finally, I guess whatever lines there
were or whatever was holding the power snapped. And at 1.43 in the morning, I
had no power. And I had the feeling that, you know, clay electric was not coming
out anytime soon in a hurricane. And I get that part. But I'm on the same grid
as a hospital. I hope the generator was working fantastically over there because
that would have been, oh, God, that would have been awful. So that we finally got
power at about just after nine on Thursday morning, I'd already driven around
to see what kind of damage and other than like tree branches and palm froms
dropping. There really wasn't a whole heck of a lot that I could, you know, say,
boy, that was damaged. But, you know, amazingly, I did go to work on Thursday.
We did have a newspaper to put out at my paper. And I was there till probably, I
want to say about eight o'clock. So eight o'clock, I get out. I have no cable.
Yeah, they had power, plenty of that, but no cable. Kind of frustrating when that
happens. So I had no internet and nothing to watch on TV. And, you know, they said,
we'll be working on that till 1.50 in the morning.
1.50 and came and went. And you know what? What? Still nothing. 2.30 came along.
Guess what? What? Nothing. 3.30 came along. Called them up again. Guess what?
Still nothing? Still nothing. It wasn't until about 4.15 in the morning. I finally
got my cable and the internet back. And, you know, I was able to get out what I
needed to on Facebook and get out and go to bed after that. But it just ruined my
sleep patterns. I did finally, you know, woke up at 9.45 on Friday. I had a
long day on Friday. You know, we did have one of our high school teams playing
football that night, which I'm glad they did. I'm glad they got that out of the way.
So I had to go into work at about 3. I was there till about 5.45 or whatever. I
left, went over to the bowling alley to pick up some results so I could type
those in in the newspaper, went home, got dressed up to work out for about an
hour, came back, made my dinner, showered, packed up my stuff. And then went back to
work because I had an 11.30 deadline. But what I had left was rather easy. And I
got to leave probably about one in the morning, head up to her place. I knew
she'd already packed. She'd already been, you know, this is the well-prepared one
over here on my side. Yeah, not always, but well-prepared enough. I have to say
that. So we got, so I got about an hour of sleep. I think it was an hour. I don't
remember. Turn around, drove to the airport, got there at about 4.45 in the
morning, something like that. And then got picked up, had to go through the
security part. Not only lasted about, get this, only lasted about five minutes. You
know, if you're gonna do it, do it like really early in the morning when not a
whole lot of people are flying themselves. But we got to wait around
a little bit and then we boarded the plane, took off, got to Nashville and for
the record, okay, for the record, I hate connector flights. I absolutely despise
them. Fly me from my destination where I am to where I'm supposed to go. I don't
want to stop anywhere. But on this particular flight we had to stop in
Nashville. So we're there for about two and a half hours. I mean, I had things I
could get done, so I wasn't completely bored. But I think it was the sticker
shock that got Camisa. I think it was all the products that were there, that, you
know, all the, all these restaurants in Nashville at the airport, we've never
heard of before. I don't think I've ever heard of some of these places, have you?
No. No. So she goes and said, you know, I'm gonna go get this, you know, I'm hungry,
you want something? Okay, fine. So she comes back and I swear to you, I thought
she was white as a ghost and that takes a lot for Camisa to be white as a ghost.
Tell them how much it all cost you for what was it, two sandwiches, two sandwiches
and a drink. How much? $25. $25. It was $25. Geez, I'm trying to remember exactly
what I said. It was like, oh yeah, I said, I felt like I got robbed, you know, I was
in the middle of a robbery, I didn't even have a mask on. I mean, it's just unbelievable.
$25. What are you guys at the airport having a hard time keeping your
business going? Seriously. I mean, what are you doing over there? I mean, I know it's
the airport and I know that things are a little more expensive at the airport, but
my god, two sandwiches and one drink. Yeah, so that sandwich that she brought
back, that was the only thing I had from about 9 p.m. Friday night until we went
across the way because we were getting served at the place of our reunion.
That was the thing because I was hungry and I wanted something to eat and I was
looking forward to having a cup of lobster bisque. Yeah, I didn't know she was a
huge fan of lobster bisque. Oh my god. These are the little things that you find
out about your mate. So yeah, it was just, I couldn't believe it.
I'm thinking to myself, why is it just, is it hard to get service when you ask
twice? And we're showing her. I'm showing her where we're sitting. I'm showing her.
Nothing. But you know, the people over at Stakes Unlimited just could not be nicer.
They were fantastic. They're an institution. So, and I got to kick out of
the fact that the brothers who ran the one brother, the steak place that's
across the way, that's his other brother. Oh my god. And they're in competition with one another.
Oh my god. I got a kick out of that one. So, but we were fine after that. Yeah. And we,
we had, you know, like I said, had a good time at this place. So, we were good. We,
we, we had a good time and all that. And we will be back in beautiful Northeast
Florida. This time tomorrow evening. Well, tomorrow, tomorrow night, we will be back.
So, we, we'll, we'll get back to doing this whole thing on a, on a, on a Sunday. Okay.
We're just doing this on a Monday. Now, it's something here and I got to see if it's still here.
Okay. It was a question on one of my Facebook page group pages. So, I got to go ahead and find
it as best as I can. But it was on one of my channel. I'm not going to say which one, but it
has to do with my Sirius XM channel thing here. And I got to go find it because I found it to be a
very interesting question. Maybe you don't out there. But it basically is what song, what song?
And it doesn't have to be a 70 song. All right. Or a 1970 song. It doesn't have to be that. What
song reminds you, or it is, what song reminds you of your first love? Oh my God. So, of course,
this would not be the 70s. Understood. Understood. Would not be the 70s. So, for me,
it would be Whitney Houston's How Will I Know. Okay. So, what about that song? I don't know. It
was just the overwhelming feeling and feeling that way for the first time. Sure. Because for me,
growing up in Greenville, Mississippi, I am not considered traditionally beautiful. No. No. I
mean, I wear big glasses. I wear big glasses. In school, I was kind of really skinny and tomboyish
and smart. But, you know, I wasn't really pretty. And so, you know, growing up in Greenville, you
pretty much had, you were a girl, you pretty much had to choose between being smart or being pretty.
Yeah. And for me, I'm kind of lazy. So, you know, the maintenance to go into being pretty just didn't
work out for me. I see. I don't, I really am not, I really was not feeling that at the time. No. But,
you know, when I got to junior high, and of course, you know, the puberty fairy comes by.
Yeah, it's amazing how it just flies in and flies out. Yeah. It changes all the chemistry within
you. Yes. So, you know, not gonna mention his name on this podcast. No. I'm not gonna mention mine,
McGowan. Yeah. Not gonna mention him on this podcast, but you know, just that seeing him and,
you know, trying not to say something that would make me sound stupid. Oh,
we're gonna say a lot of things on here. Yeah. And, you know, try, I mean, I'm just saying this to
him because I was like, you know, maybe like 12. Okay. So, you know, trying not to say things that
would sound stupid or saying things that would not make me overly smart, which I know super dumb
idea. Right. And, you know, I tried that once. It did. Yes, I did. I tried that once. I tried
dumbing myself down to make myself more attractive to a boy. Young ladies do not do this. Please
don't. It's not. It's not that attractive. Honey, it's not worth it. Because if he's scared that,
because if he feels like if he feels emasculated because you're smarter than he are, or you're
better than better at something than he is, honey, he is not the one for you. Don't do that. Yeah.
Don't do that. I did that once and I had a headache. No, being dumb hurts your brain. It does. So,
get back to the song. Yeah. So, get back to the song. So, basically, it was just every time I
saw him in the hall, every time I got a note from him in my locker, I just heard this song and I
was just like, oh my god. And, you know, that is absolutely one of my favorite Funko Pops too.
Okay. Is the, is the How Will I Know Whitney? Yeah. Yes. Because I also collect Funkos.
Mm-hmm. Mine's a little different. I was late to the ball in terms of falling in love and feelings
and all that. And I didn't get my first girlfriend until I was 19. Really? Yeah, no. That's how late
I was. And let's put it this way. The girls I wanted to date when I was in high school, you know,
the same girls that were at this reunion for the most part, they just simply didn't want anything
to do with me. I'm going to be honest. I was a different person back then. Much different. Much,
much different. I was Switzerland. So, I was everybody's buddy. Nobody had that kind of an
interest in me. See, I would have had an interest in you. Yeah. But again, when I was 18 years,
when I was 17 years old when I graduated, you were eight. No. Stop it, you. Stop it. Well, hey.
But I finally got to date somebody when we met in chemistry class at OCC, Ocean County College,
in 1986 because yours truly failed biology. Yeah, I did. I wasn't very good at biology. I took it
because it was more of a challenge than chemistry. I'm good with numbers. I could do mathematics. I
can basically figure out things doing that. But I was not very good at biology yet. I took it
to challenge myself to see if I would pass. But boy, it may as well have been learning Greek.
And I didn't do well. And so I, you know, it goes back to one of the most humiliating and
humbling days of my life, May 29th, 1986, which I graduated went through the whole process. And then
when it came time to get my diploma, my actual diploma back up in one of the buildings there.
Yeah, no, I didn't. It said I didn't pass. So I wasn't, I wasn't officially graduated. So I took
a chemistry class. And that's where I met this young lady who was 17 at the time. And she was a
senior at Monsignor Donovan High School. And we just hit it off right at the end of that, that
six week period. And we went out for just over a year when it was all said and done. I don't think
her parents were all that keen about me, but it never was, you know, it is what it is. And one
night we were just sitting there, you know, just lying on a bed. And the song Always and Forever
came up by Heatwave. That is one of the all time ultimate love songs, if you ever heard it. It's,
you know, it's just a beautiful song from Stark to finish. And I said, you know what, if, if, you
know, of course, I was talking foolish at that time, and I was thinking, you know,
my first love is going to be the one that I marry. Because that's what you hope for.
Yeah, I had the same thoughts about this guy. And now today, if you asked me that, it would be a
resounding hell no. No. But yeah, this is, you know, like I said, this was somebody that I had
gone through enough with with her and heard this song. And I said, yeah, that's it. That's the
wedding. So I had, you know, and I've got all these thoughts in my head. And boy was I blind.
Also, you planned out your wedding too. Yeah, I was blind as hell. You know, it was,
it was darker than a dark night was apparently. Oops. Oops. Okay. Little did I know that, yeah,
you know, things were going to go sideways. And the thing is, you know,
you know, the thing is, you know, we, she and I maintained a very good friendship
all these years later. I just haven't really talked to her in a number of years. But she,
she'll always be close to me because, you know, you never forget your first good or bad.
You don't forget your first. I don't know how you feel about that.
I mean, I will, I mean, I will never ever, ever, ever forget him. But
sometimes when I think about it in those quiet moments, like in the middle of the night,
I probably wish I would have done things differently. Oh, well, I think we all do in
some relationships. Yeah, we do that. But then I try not to think about that a whole, whole lot.
Listen, I understand that all too well. With her, I can never have
a hatred or a bone of hatred toward her. She was always kind to me. It was not an easy decision
because, as I said, it was not, I don't really think it was quote unquote her decision. I think
her parents put some pressure on her to, and I think faith had something to do with it too.
Catholic school girl, Jew, I don't think. Also, it sounds kind of like, are you their
God? It's me, Margaret. Yeah. Yeah. The way you mentioned that, yeah. And unfortunately,
I think they forced her to give up me. And she wound up going out with some other guy,
and she wound up marrying him. And they're still married, believe it or not. So I give them credit.
But I don't, there's always going to be feelings there, no matter what. And I don't,
the difference is I don't try to act on them. I had to move on, whether I liked it or not. It
took a long while to get over that first heartbreak. But yeah, you, I'll always, with your first,
you're always going to remember a lot of things. So that's, you know, that's kind of that whole
deal with that. And I've moved on, obviously, it was almost 40 years ago. So I kind of moved on from
it, you know, summer of 1987, I've kind of moved on from all that there was about it. But she'll
always have a place in me, no matter what. There's no hard feelings. And she's just, you know,
she was, she was a sweetheart. I still think she is to this day. So even though I haven't talked to
her in a long while, I mean, you know, I do have hard feelings, to be honest, I have hard feelings.
But maturity is realizing that this person does not really mean the best for you.
This person will always be a part of the story of you. But, you know, again, maturity and wisdom
is realizing that this person is not the person for you. No, no, that, you know, it's just not it.
No. And to this day, I always kind of wonder what would have happened at that particular point
had we just continued on and all that maybe my life is different at that point. Maybe I'm not so
jaded, but hey, it's taken me a while to figure all that out. Hey, you know who's on tour, by the way?
Who? Oasis. They're going to be on tour. Aren't the tickets like super expensive? Yeah, I got a friend
who is in a lottery for those tickets and she just got into the lottery. So I guess the next
phase is coming up. So she's like over the moon over that. They should have odds with Oasis. Like
what are the, you know, so and so odds on if they fight the two brother, the two Gallagher
fathers fight in the middle of a concert or the odds of them fighting like between stops on the tour.
They already have admitted they will not do a, they will not do interview sessions together.
Okay, because they know they're going to step over one another and it's going, they think it's
going to be ugly. So they're apparently going to be doing these interview sessions, Noel and Liam
apart. Okay, I know. Why bother if you're just going to be like, okay, it's it's still super
competitive. These guys are in their fifties. Come on. Okay, I guess. Oh my goodness. But you know,
I'm always going to have Wonderwall no matter what. Still one of my all time favorite songs.
I love that song and Champagne Supernova is another great song by them. But you know,
you know, that was the 90s. Yeah, that was the, that was like 95 96.
All right. So let's change tracks here. All right. Halloween is in two weeks. Gotcha. So I will not
bore everybody out there about how I grew up not celebrating Halloween. That's, that's another topic
for another time. Understood. Yeah. So we're not even at Halloween just yet. Yeah, I know. But Halloween
is in two weeks. I know that's the harsh reality. Yes. So I so as I've said in our previous episode,
I am a teacher. And at the school I teach at one of our annual traditions is that the daycare,
the little babies that attend our campuses daycare, the daycare babies, yes, yes, my daycare buddies.
Um, we have the daycare has a costume parade. So all the little babies wear their Halloween
costumes and they parade throughout the campus. Right. And you know, all us teachers stand outside
our classrooms and we give out candy and things like that. And you know, some years, um, as faculty,
we will dress up in costumes. Like in years past, we have all dressed up as characters from Harry
Potter. So you know, I was the plants professor one year. And I have an excellent picture of that.
This year, we are doing inside out and I will be sadness. You're gonna be sadness. Yes, I'm gonna
be sadness. I mean, you know, I'm kind of chunky like sadness. And I have the glasses. So you know,
I have my I have my blue wig. I have my little thick gray sweater. I have blue leggings. Yes,
I will go all out. All right. Now, speaking of Halloween costumes, so you know, Spirit,
uh, Halloween store as well as some other places have like these questionable costumes. Yeah,
as to not infringe on the copyright of the original character. So what I'm going to do, Mark, is that
I am going to give you a costume name. Okay. And you tell me what who the character is. I'm gonna
do my best. All right. First one. Where's the stripy dude?
For first off, the where the kind of gives it away that has to be Waldo. Okay. Yes,
you are correct. It is where's Waldo. All right. Okay. Next one. Purple pain.
Purple pain. No, it's purple. Purple. P. U. P. P. L. E. Pain. Well, I'm going to
guess that purple is kind of like purple. And I'm going to go and guess the late great prince. Yes.
Yes. This is the prince costume. All right. Okay. Next one. Blue speed mouse.
Blue speed mouse. Yes. Oh, boy. Blue speed mouse. Blue.
Mouse. Yes. That sounds like a Tom and Jerry thing. No, no, it's not. Jerry's not blue. No.
No. Blue speed. Then that can't be speedy Gonzalez. No. No. No. Blue speed mouse.
Okay. I'm not even going to try a third attempt here. Okay. It's Sonic the Hedgehog. See,
yeah, I didn't I'm not a Sonic the Hedgehog kind of guy here. So I couldn't help there. Okay. Next one.
Money wise clown. Money wise clown. Yikes. Money wise clown. Sounds like crusty. No. No. No.
Okay. This one you got me on. I'd probably have heard this, but go ahead. Penny wise from it. Oh,
from it. Okay. Again, I wasn't following it as much. Okay. Next one. You're probably going to get
this one. Comover leadership wig guy. Does he have the most beautiful rallies going? Is it that guy?
Yes. Is it, you know, somebody who praises him calls him the most wonderful, beautiful person on the
planet. Yes. That sounds like Trump to me. Yes. Yes. It is it is him. All right. Next one.
Podcasters for Trump, baby. Not us. Not us. No. No. No. No. No. No. Okay. Go on. Next one. Okay.
Next one. Wizard boy. W I Z Z R D wizard boy. That has to be Harry Potter. Yes. It is Harry
Potter. Okay. Okay. This one's a little tough. Okay. This one's tough. The rice is strange.
The rice is strange. Yes. Is not the leader of a Chinese restaurant, is it? No. No. No. No. The
rice is strange. Boy. It's not Jerry Rice. No. No. No. No. That I don't know. You're going to
challenge me on that one. Okay. It is a Minnie Mouse costume. All right. I do not know where
they got the rice is strange from for a Minnie Mouse costume. Yes. They just could have said
pretty mouse or girl mouse. Right. I don't I don't know where they got this from. I yeah,
that just totally throws me off. All right. Give me one more. Okay. Last one. Pew Besant
frog of silent war.
Pew Besant war frog. Yes. Of silent war. Yes. Oh boy. Definitely not Kermit. No. No.
Not crazy frog from axel F thing. No. No. No. Frog frog. Ribbit ribbit. No. I do not know.
I'm going to read to you again. Pew Besant frog. Okay. That's a pre preteen frog.
That would be pre. Pew Besant. Pre. Bebesant. Okay. Pew Besant frog of silent war. Silent war.
Is it obvious? Kind of sort of. But one part of it kind of throws throws the whole thing off.
Oh no. I can't see it. The Michigan the Michigan rag frog from the WB.
I know. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Oh Donatello or. Yes. Yes. Yes. The frog totally throws you
off. Yeah. I believe me. I'll go for a pizza. I don't know. It's about it. Okay. All right. So
yeah that kind of because they can't really go by the names of these people or characters. So
you know they're copyright things. Yeah. I like this this podcast and stuff. Okay. Okay. One final
one. All right. Let's make it quick. Juice demon. Juice demon. Yes. Juice demon. Yeah.
Orange. No. No. Apple. No. Juice demon. No. I'm going to say that something to do with a like
power. Not a power aid but a. No. Yeah. No. Go on. Beetle juice. Juice demon. I get it. I get it.
All right. All right. So we always try to finish it out by going somewhere back in time musically.
We're going to look back at the top six songs from this week every week in a different year and
since it was my 43 union. Let's go back to this week in 1983. How's that? My senior year. Third
grade. Third grade. I was I was a senior and we were actually listening to these songs because
they were actually really cool, cool songs back then. So so here's what the Billboard Hot 100
had as a top six songs from this date in 1983. Number six, the fix one thing leads to another.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Number five, arguably the greatest country music duet in history.
What? You know this song written by the Bee Gees. What is that? Kenny Dolly. Oh my god. How do you
not know that? Oh my god. Well, I didn't know the Bee Gees wrote it. Oh my god. I love islands in the
stream. Oh my god. We go on to be a number one song two weeks later. Number four, one of those
ultra smooth songs of the time by a group called Spandau Ballet. Oh, I love true. So true. Oh my god.
Yes. Yes. Number three came from the number one album in America this week in 1983. The album called
Syncraticity and I played this cassette, The Death. I love this song, especially that first line
about a little black dot on the sun. Yeah. It's a king of pain. Oh, three. Yes. I don't know that one.
You do. Oh, believe me. You'll know when you hear it. And then interestingly, the top two songs
in America were written and produced by the same man. We lost him in 2021, but he'll his music will
always still be there. The guy who was Meatloaf's sidekick, Jim Steinman. Number two was Making Love
Out of Nothing at All by Air Supply. Okay, I know that one. And then the number one song,
the biggest hit for a Welsh lady whose real name was Gainer Hopkins, by the way,
but we know her as Bonnie Tyler. Okay. The song Totally Clips of the Heart. How do you not forget
the late summer of 1983 without that song? I'm telling you. So, yep. And that's our look back
to this week in 1983. Hey, we made it through the first one. Okay. Okay. Yeah. We'll get,
let's do this again next week. Of course, we'll try to post this as soon as we can by tomorrow
or by tonight. Who knows who knows what we will get it and we'll try to post these things.
These podcasts on Sunday night or early Monday morning, it is dependent on who is awake and
it was not, but we will do so. So until then, I am Mark and I'm Kamisa and thank you for listening
or getting through this whole hour with it. And we will be back for volume two or episode two
next week of Kamisa and Mark Makeup Podcast. So until then, you have a wonderful week. We'll see
again this time next week. Bye everybody. Bye.