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Hello everybody and welcome to the actual first episode of Kamisa and Mark

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Make a podcast. I am Mark. I'm Kamesa. How are you today? I am great. You are great.

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I am great too. We are doing this right now from the comforts of a hotel room in

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Tom's River, New Jersey. Yeah, we are far away from Florida, but let me explain

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why we are doing this from here and not in the safeness of her own home. It was

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my 40th high school class reunion up here. Yes, we're all we all got a little

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older. Every five years that always seems to happen. We always get older, but I

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can't I can't thank the people who put this together, mainly Kelly and Dina, for

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doing this and securing the place that we had this in in Seaside at the Ocean

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View this Saturday night. They got in this like eight months in advance and you

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know it was kind of skeptical because I've never been there before, but then

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again the place that we held it five years earlier in Seaside never been

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there either. So what were your think what what did you think of the place

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first off? First, I thought the place was really interesting. I really liked

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the vibe in the place. I just did not like the lack of service. Yeah, we had a

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problem. I'll explain what happened when she explains it like this. We had looked

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for our server. We were told, I think it was Kelly who told us that if we sat down

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at one of the seats, we would be able to be served. You know, somebody would notice

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us. So we were sitting there with two other of my classmates, Chantel and

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Mary Ellen. We're waiting for food. We're waiting and we're waiting and I had to

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get up a couple of times to say, hey, we're over here. Could you please serve us?

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Nothing. So I, you know, they had already gotten up. The other two, they had gotten

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up and left. So I told Kamisa, let's just go across the street, find some food.

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Okay. Well, originally we were going to go across the boardwalk, but she didn't

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really want pizza. And of course we're going to be doing pizza tonight. I'm on

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the last night here. But she wasn't into it. And I was honest, I really wasn't up

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to it. I didn't say anything else, but and so we went across the street on Central

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Avenue or the main drag. It's not central, by the way. And we decided we're going to

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go to Stakes Unlimited right across. Now, they're a wonderful place. I've only

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really eaten there one other time, but if you remember the Bon Jovi video, the

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music video for In and Out of Love from the 7800 Fahrenheit album in 1985, that's

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when they did the video. Of course, Seaside Heights was a much different place

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back then than it is now. Yeah, but that's where they did a couple of scenes

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from that music video. So we sat down and, you know, we ate pretty well, don't you

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think? Yeah, we did. I mean, I felt like the cheese steak was great. The fries

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were good. Yeah, I know you didn't like that. You thought it was too much bread.

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Yeah, it was just a twee too much bread. I, you know, that's why I said you

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want to split one because I knew one was too big for you. Yes, I, you know, full

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disclosure, I'm on Ozenpik. So it really limits how much I eat. So yeah, I

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do not like sandwiches that are more bread than anything. Yeah, and you get

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those situations in some places and I'm not just saying it happens in my home

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state of New Jersey, okay, but it does happen in other places as well and you

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almost feel like you're ripped off at that point. Yeah. It's a tough

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choice, but we actually enjoyed it. We had, I haven't had a cheese steak in a

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couple of hot minutes, but you know, it was really good. You know, we had that, we

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had the fries, we basically ate and went across back to where we were and,

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you know, I got to mingle a little better with the people that were there. At

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least I wasn't doing it on an empty stomach. So that worked out very well in

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that regard and, you know, we were there till about, you know, this thing started

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around seven o'clock. We got there about quarter after seven and, you know, we were

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there till about 11.15, 11.20 when we realized that it was just getting colder.

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It really was and, you know, I look at her and I said, you, how are you feeling?

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She was saying, getting tired and I said, okay, fine, we'll go. You know, by that

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point we were thinning out and we had another place to go in Maureen's place

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the next day. So we left and came back here, but you know, it was it was a

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fantastic night. I want to clear up something for the people that were there

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that saw us there and didn't think that this this woman next to me was not

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having fun. I don't care who you are, you know, you could be the friendliest

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person on the planet, but if you're in a room with complete strangers and you're

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doing your best to, you know, try to fit in, it is not easy. Well, you know, I

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constantly told Mark that I was fine and that, you know, I was entertaining myself.

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Yeah, you know, it's, I first off I want to thank those who were concerned and

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really want her to fit in and, you know, a couple of them came up to me and she said,

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you having any fun? I said, well, you have to understand something. It's a

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different scenario altogether that when you're the outsider looking in, right?

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Right. Yeah, you're the outsider looking in. You have, it's a disadvantage. Now,

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let's just say the roles were reversed. Okay. I'm the guest. I'm the plus one.

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She's the one part of the class. You know, it's gonna be hard for me to kind of fit

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in. I'm not gonna lie to you. I mean, I didn't grow up in Mississippi. She did. I

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grew up in New Jersey. She didn't. And it's two different worlds out there. But,

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you know, I do my best, but, you know, don't want to be the class dork either.

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So I don't want to feel like I'm putting a bad name on her because of that. So I

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could understand where she comes from on that regard. It is tough to try to be the

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the guy that, you know, how to explain that. I mean, well, I think you explained it

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well enough. But I mean, you know, you're right. I mean, you know, I didn't go to

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school in New Jersey. I didn't grow up in New Jersey. My main objective was

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honestly, I wanted Mark to have a great time in his reunion. I did not want to

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feel like he was responsible for me, no, or your happiness. And, you know, I found

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myself having to do that a couple of times. But, you know, I the basic thing is,

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yes, I know she wants me to have a good time. But I also have to check back with

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her to make sure that she's fine. I mean, you don't want to ignore somebody at the

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party for two hours that you brought. But I but you didn't ignore me. I mean, I

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wasn't ignored. I mean, again, I know how to entertain myself. I mean, you know, I

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was an 80s kid. So, you know, I grew up learning how to entertain myself because,

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you know, in the 80s, we didn't have the internet. We didn't have cell phone. We

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didn't have social media. And of course, you know, I was the weirdo kid anyway.

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Yeah. And a gifted program. I'll say that. Yes, I was. I was the weirdo child. Oh,

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please. And I was like the weirdo in a class full of smart kids. So, yes, I was

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one of the smart weirdos. Smart. That's a good way of putting it. Smart weirdo. Or

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is that just dork? That might be just dork. I don't know. But, you know, I was,

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I was a weirdo because, you know, I preferred hanging out with people my

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grandmother's age and other grownups as opposed to hanging out with my peers. I

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preferred watching PBS and not like the kids shows on PBS like Sesame Street and

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Mr. Rogers, even though I was and still am a big fan of those shows. Sure. But I

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also watched, you know, Frontline and McNeil Lair News Hour. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You

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know, it was called the McNeil Lair News Report back then. But, you know, I was a

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fan of those shows too. Yeah. You know, and so that just made me kind of weird.

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Mm hmm. So, you know, at, you know, so at the reunion, Mark was having fun and

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chatting up, chatting up his classmates, excuse me. And, you know, I chatted up a

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few of his classmates as well. But, you know, while they were all chatting and

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getting reacquaint with one another, you know, I was having a great time watching

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college football. That's right. They had enough TV screens up there for her to

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watch, including the Gators. My goodness. Oh, that's a tragedy. The Gators had that

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game. They were right there with Dennis. Oh my God. Oh my goodness. And they wound up

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losing it over time. You know, there was all this concern about Billy Napier's

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job about a month or so ago. And, you know, I think he's kind of proven that his

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players, I should say, have proven that he deserves to have this whole year for

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himself. And then whatever happens at the end of the year happens at the end of

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the year. They did not, they played a tough game start to finish. I mean, yeah,

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you know, the Gators fought, in my opinion, the Gators fought until the very end.

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They didn't just lay down and just roll over. Yeah. No. I mean, you know, it was a

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loss to Tennessee, but, you know, they fought. Yeah. They fought like hell. Yeah.

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So, you know, I was watching that. I was watching Ohio State in Oregon. Oh, what a

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game that was. Yes, that was such a good game. What an unusual finish. The

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quarterback from Ohio State thought he had more time on the clock than he'd had.

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And he's trying to run for yardage and when he, God, must have felt like the

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loneliest person in that stadium in Oregon last night or Saturday night when

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all of a sudden he looks up and there's no time left on the clock. He gets the

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first down. Yay. But the clock was at zero. So that was kind of a, that was a

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weird moment, especially when one of my classmates, Terese, she's got one of her

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triplets. She had triplets and he's, he's at Ohio State now and she's just like,

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what happened, Mark? What happened? Please tell me what happened. And I said, well,

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you know, it's kind of like that Boomtown Rats song. I don't like Mondays. The

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Silicon chip inside his head got, yeah, you get it. But it was, yeah, I couldn't

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believe I was watching that ending. Next thing you know, there are all those

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Oregon fans on the field. Just having a ball. I'm gonna blast. So yeah, that was,

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you know, she was entertaining herself there. I got to entertain her a little bit.

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We got to go dancing. Oh my God, we are dancing. Yeah. To her all time favorite song. Yes. She loves,

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she loves her some Whitney. I want to dance with somebody. So I said, okay,

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let's dance. Let's go ahead and do that. So we did that for about five, ten minutes.

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My legs, you know, you thought that I gave up aerobics for a reason. Now I come

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back and now my legs were like hurting for the rest of the night. I mean, you know,

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the way my knees are set up. I can't dance like I used to myself. So if I were only

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a weeble, you know, I just fall down, come right back up, you know, bounce right back.

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But that's neither here nor there. But no, I had a lot of good, it was a good time on

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Saturday night. I had a blast. I saw people there I hadn't seen since

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graduation day in 1984. That's 40 years. And you're trying to put that in perspective.

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You know, was I disappointed that there were some people that did not show up

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because they made other plans and, you know, this was planned out eight months

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in advance. This isn't like her 30th reunion, which was basically planned out

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what four or five weeks. Yes. Oh my God. We'll talk about that in a bit. But, you

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know, they all made their plans to go elsewhere and all sorts of reasons why.

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And I get it. Weddings, vacations, celebrations, blah, blah, blah. But you

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know what, as I said, all these places that they went to or are going to, they're

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still going to be there, you know. This is at the day after like my senior year in

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high school in which the bomb dropped and like all of a sudden everybody was

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like, well, could this really happen in real life? Not really anymore. But, you

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know, never say never either. I, this was just for one night, one weekend, we all

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got to hang out at Maureen's the next day on Sunday. She entertained

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herself the book. Yes. I brought a thick novel that I bought from Thrift Books.

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You know, quick plug for them. I love them. Thriftbooks.com. But again,

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she doing okay. And she had some of my friends ask her, are you okay? And they

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said, you know, she told them she was fine. She just, you know, we got to eat there.

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We had a good time. We really did. And we were there till about, gosh, 6.20.

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Yes. I thought it was 6.30 myself. Close to 6.30. Yeah. Yeah. We got back in and,

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you know, for about an hour, I was up and, you know, doing whatever and

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you know, everything was all fine and dandy. And I remember talking to my

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sister online and went down, you know, sat down here in the bed to watch the

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giant game. I knew the Mets were on, but I was going to turn back to them

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eventually. It was the Giants and Bengals had the Sunday Night Game on TV.

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Next thing I know, it was 10 to 11. I had fallen asleep for about almost

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three hours. Apparently I was in overdrive and I needed to slow down.

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So watch the end of that game. Boy, the Giants are going to, how do you give a

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game like that away? Well, you know, they can ask the Jaguars for tips. Don't get me

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started on the Jaguars. Oh my gosh. Everything that could possibly go wrong.

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And apparently the 35-16 score that Jaguars lost to the Bears by in London

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was much closer than that because they dropped apparently four touchdown

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passes. You know, I really did not need to know that. Yeah, which tells me this

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ain't all on Trevor. It is not all on Trevor. And I'm, it's why Jaguar fans are

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just like stupefied if that's the word. I mean, you know, I will always hold on to

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the assertion that the Jaguars got cursed by some kind of swamp witch. Which year?

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I don't know. Was it every year? I mean, how else can you explain 2018 when we

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were a heartbeat away from the Super Bowl? I know. I know I was there. We cursed some kind of swamp

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witch and that's why we just have all these terrible seasons. And except for

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2022. Yeah, you know, which wasn't bad. You know, hey, one division, one a first

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round game, dramatic fashion in the playoffs. And you know, if they had a

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little extra time, who knows what could have happened against the future

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Super Bowl champion, Kansas City Chiefs. But it is what it is. And of course, you

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know, last year was the ultimate collapse in this year. It just seems that

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that has fallen into that. You realize the Jaguars have won just two games, two, I

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believe in the last 11. Oh my God. It is hard to fathom. Not what's hard is being

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a Jaguar fan. It's kind of like saying you're sorry every day, isn't it? Yes. I

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mean, you know, right now, the Jaguars are sorry. But you know, I love them. You

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know, I'm always gonna be Duval till I die. But sometimes. And it's hard to,

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especially yesterday, because we were at the get together at Maureen's place.

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And Dina, who was one of the co co founders, if you will, of this of this

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get together Saturday night, she and her husband are big Bears fans. So I

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mean, I said, you're given the Bears scored 35 points. That's a that that

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should be celebrated of anything. And you know, I don't have words

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anymore for this. I said, you give up 35 points to the Bears. Something is wrong

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with you. So yeah, it's just it's hard to struggle. But we had a good time

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yesterday. Yes. And you know, like I said, I came home back to the hotel. I

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collapsed for about three hours, saw the end of the Giants game. Then we went out

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to at least I did. I went out to White Castle, which is like, yeah, no more than

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about a quarter of a mile down the road from where we're standing, where we are

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right now. So you know, how we don't have except for one in Orlando, we don't

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have a White Castle. And so I'm over there. And I said, okay, I'm just gonna get

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eight burgers and a couple of drinks. All right, no big deal. First off, the

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partition that they had used to have they had there for years and years and

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years and years. They've replaced that with just a regular non window to, you

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know, kind of it looks like what you come up to almost at every restaurant at

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this point is and on top of everything else. They have these these fancy

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machines in which you put a hand in front of it. And you you get napkins. You've

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seen them, haven't you? No. No. Oh, they're fancy. You just, you know, it's like when

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you get towel in the bathroom at a public place and it just comes down. Well,

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this thing wasn't working. So oh my God. Yeah. The tragedy is, okay, can we get some

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towels to go with this or napkin napkins and yeah, they they were able to do

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that, but it was taking a little extra time to make these burgers and all that.

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But eventually we did. Got out of there and got back and it wasn't much. Four

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burgers is just starting for me from a white castle, but it was enough. And

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eventually by about two in the morning I fell asleep and that was about it. I

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think I was knocked out before that. Oh, you were well knocked out before then. You know,

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little did I know how much an overdrive I'd been since Friday morning. And now

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Sunday night I was like out like a light. But we we managed. We managed, got up.

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And you know, today was was the start of a good day. I think we we did pretty well

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with that. Gonna see my sister again. She's come over here and now she will be

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we'll be going to her place tonight Monday. We're gonna be doing these on

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Sundays, okay? Because come Sunday morning at about five o'clock, she's got to take

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her kid to school and then she's off to do teaching things. And I get to drop her

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other son off at work and his workplace. And then yeah, it's off back to

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Plaka for me for what I'm planning to do for the rest of the you know, for the

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rest of the day. That's that's usually on a Monday, but this is a different Monday.

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So we're we're gonna try to do this as best as we can. As our podcast is kind

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of like, how do we put it like Seinfeld? It's a lot about nothing. We're just

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making this stuff up as we go along here. So we had this little thing called

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Hurricane Milton that came through the state of Florida. And first off, anybody

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who is listening to this and has loved ones in the area in which Milton kind of

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chewed up land and made water all over the place and really did damage. Anybody

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who lives in those areas or knows somebody that lives in those areas, first

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off, I hope things are going to get better for you. I really do because

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it's kind of hard, especially trying to start up again and especially after

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Haleen had just gone through and poked its hands out at the area to kind of do

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some damage as well. I mean, so you know to those people that are in Tampa that

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are in those surrounding areas, you know, our thoughts and our prayers are with

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you all. Yeah. I mean, it came in as a Hurricane 3 now as a cat 3. Now cat 3 is

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anywhere from about 115 to 130 miles an hour. All I know about that kind of

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speed is A, I've never attained it in a car and B, there ain't no way I'm hitting

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that fastball from 60 feet six inches. So don't don't even start

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thinking about that. That's just unrealistic. But that's what our

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hurricanes have been about in the last 10 years or so. It's been all about how

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fast and how hard they come in. And we escaped. Well, did you have your

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power the whole time? Yes, I did have my power the whole time. I mean, she's up in

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Jacksonville, which got further and further away. Saw rain? Yes. Saw wind? A little.

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Okay, you can't really see wind, but you could feel it. You could hear it. Well, I

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didn't really hear it. I more so felt it than anything. The funny thing is, Mark,

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is that I overprepared for Milton. Oh, I know you did. I know you did. I mean,

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you're asking me all these questions. First off, we're worried about our flight.

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Our flight was on Saturday morning. Our flight, you know, everything was going to

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be pending on the whatever damage there might have been from Milton, which was on

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a Wednesday going into Thursday morning. We didn't know. None of us knew. But we

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kind of had an idea that whatever damage was going to happen in Northeast

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Florida was going to be minimal unless you lived right on the shore. Now, if you

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lived on the shore, God bless you. And I hope that that water subsides, you

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know, subsides pretty quickly. Yeah. But that's the thing. Hurricanes are

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unpredictable. You don't know what path they are. And I think NOAA and the

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National Hurricane Center, they do a tremendous job in tracking them down. Yes.

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Yes. It's just, you know, can't say enough about what they do. So we got

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through it. But on my end, because I'm further south, I'm about an hour south

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from here. We lost power. We got the rain part of the rain really pounded us in

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the evening on Wednesday. But somewhere around midnight, it really switched up.

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And now we were getting the winds and we were probably getting the winds to

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excess like 55, 60 miles an hour. And finally, I guess whatever lines there

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were or whatever was holding the power snapped. And at 1.43 in the morning, I

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had no power. And I had the feeling that, you know, clay electric was not coming

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out anytime soon in a hurricane. And I get that part. But I'm on the same grid

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as a hospital. I hope the generator was working fantastically over there because

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that would have been, oh, God, that would have been awful. So that we finally got

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power at about just after nine on Thursday morning, I'd already driven around

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to see what kind of damage and other than like tree branches and palm froms

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dropping. There really wasn't a whole heck of a lot that I could, you know, say,

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boy, that was damaged. But, you know, amazingly, I did go to work on Thursday.

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We did have a newspaper to put out at my paper. And I was there till probably, I

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want to say about eight o'clock. So eight o'clock, I get out. I have no cable.

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Yeah, they had power, plenty of that, but no cable. Kind of frustrating when that

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happens. So I had no internet and nothing to watch on TV. And, you know, they said,

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we'll be working on that till 1.50 in the morning.

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1.50 and came and went. And you know what? What? Still nothing. 2.30 came along.

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Guess what? What? Nothing. 3.30 came along. Called them up again. Guess what?

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Still nothing? Still nothing. It wasn't until about 4.15 in the morning. I finally

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got my cable and the internet back. And, you know, I was able to get out what I

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needed to on Facebook and get out and go to bed after that. But it just ruined my

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sleep patterns. I did finally, you know, woke up at 9.45 on Friday. I had a

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long day on Friday. You know, we did have one of our high school teams playing

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football that night, which I'm glad they did. I'm glad they got that out of the way.

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So I had to go into work at about 3. I was there till about 5.45 or whatever. I

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left, went over to the bowling alley to pick up some results so I could type

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those in in the newspaper, went home, got dressed up to work out for about an

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hour, came back, made my dinner, showered, packed up my stuff. And then went back to

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work because I had an 11.30 deadline. But what I had left was rather easy. And I

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got to leave probably about one in the morning, head up to her place. I knew

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she'd already packed. She'd already been, you know, this is the well-prepared one

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over here on my side. Yeah, not always, but well-prepared enough. I have to say

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that. So we got, so I got about an hour of sleep. I think it was an hour. I don't

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remember. Turn around, drove to the airport, got there at about 4.45 in the

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morning, something like that. And then got picked up, had to go through the

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security part. Not only lasted about, get this, only lasted about five minutes. You

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know, if you're gonna do it, do it like really early in the morning when not a

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whole lot of people are flying themselves. But we got to wait around

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a little bit and then we boarded the plane, took off, got to Nashville and for

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the record, okay, for the record, I hate connector flights. I absolutely despise

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them. Fly me from my destination where I am to where I'm supposed to go. I don't

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want to stop anywhere. But on this particular flight we had to stop in

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Nashville. So we're there for about two and a half hours. I mean, I had things I

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could get done, so I wasn't completely bored. But I think it was the sticker

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shock that got Camisa. I think it was all the products that were there, that, you

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know, all the, all these restaurants in Nashville at the airport, we've never

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heard of before. I don't think I've ever heard of some of these places, have you?

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No. No. So she goes and said, you know, I'm gonna go get this, you know, I'm hungry,

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you want something? Okay, fine. So she comes back and I swear to you, I thought

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she was white as a ghost and that takes a lot for Camisa to be white as a ghost.

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Tell them how much it all cost you for what was it, two sandwiches, two sandwiches

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and a drink. How much? $25. $25. It was $25. Geez, I'm trying to remember exactly

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what I said. It was like, oh yeah, I said, I felt like I got robbed, you know, I was

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in the middle of a robbery, I didn't even have a mask on. I mean, it's just unbelievable.

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$25. What are you guys at the airport having a hard time keeping your

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business going? Seriously. I mean, what are you doing over there? I mean, I know it's

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the airport and I know that things are a little more expensive at the airport, but

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my god, two sandwiches and one drink. Yeah, so that sandwich that she brought

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back, that was the only thing I had from about 9 p.m. Friday night until we went

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across the way because we were getting served at the place of our reunion.

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That was the thing because I was hungry and I wanted something to eat and I was

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looking forward to having a cup of lobster bisque. Yeah, I didn't know she was a

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huge fan of lobster bisque. Oh my god. These are the little things that you find

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out about your mate. So yeah, it was just, I couldn't believe it.

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I'm thinking to myself, why is it just, is it hard to get service when you ask

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twice? And we're showing her. I'm showing her where we're sitting. I'm showing her.

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Nothing. But you know, the people over at Stakes Unlimited just could not be nicer.

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They were fantastic. They're an institution. So, and I got to kick out of

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the fact that the brothers who ran the one brother, the steak place that's

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across the way, that's his other brother. Oh my god. And they're in competition with one another.

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Oh my god. I got a kick out of that one. So, but we were fine after that. Yeah. And we,

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we had, you know, like I said, had a good time at this place. So, we were good. We,

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we, we had a good time and all that. And we will be back in beautiful Northeast

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Florida. This time tomorrow evening. Well, tomorrow, tomorrow night, we will be back.

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So, we, we'll, we'll get back to doing this whole thing on a, on a, on a Sunday. Okay.

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We're just doing this on a Monday. Now, it's something here and I got to see if it's still here.

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Okay. It was a question on one of my Facebook page group pages. So, I got to go ahead and find

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it as best as I can. But it was on one of my channel. I'm not going to say which one, but it

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has to do with my Sirius XM channel thing here. And I got to go find it because I found it to be a

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very interesting question. Maybe you don't out there. But it basically is what song, what song?

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And it doesn't have to be a 70 song. All right. Or a 1970 song. It doesn't have to be that. What

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song reminds you, or it is, what song reminds you of your first love? Oh my God. So, of course,

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this would not be the 70s. Understood. Understood. Would not be the 70s. So, for me,

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it would be Whitney Houston's How Will I Know. Okay. So, what about that song? I don't know. It

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was just the overwhelming feeling and feeling that way for the first time. Sure. Because for me,

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growing up in Greenville, Mississippi, I am not considered traditionally beautiful. No. No. I

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mean, I wear big glasses. I wear big glasses. In school, I was kind of really skinny and tomboyish

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and smart. But, you know, I wasn't really pretty. And so, you know, growing up in Greenville, you

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pretty much had, you were a girl, you pretty much had to choose between being smart or being pretty.

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Yeah. And for me, I'm kind of lazy. So, you know, the maintenance to go into being pretty just didn't

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work out for me. I see. I don't, I really am not, I really was not feeling that at the time. No. But,

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you know, when I got to junior high, and of course, you know, the puberty fairy comes by.

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Yeah, it's amazing how it just flies in and flies out. Yeah. It changes all the chemistry within

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you. Yes. So, you know, not gonna mention his name on this podcast. No. I'm not gonna mention mine,

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McGowan. Yeah. Not gonna mention him on this podcast, but you know, just that seeing him and,

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you know, trying not to say something that would make me sound stupid. Oh,

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we're gonna say a lot of things on here. Yeah. And, you know, try, I mean, I'm just saying this to

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him because I was like, you know, maybe like 12. Okay. So, you know, trying not to say things that

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would sound stupid or saying things that would not make me overly smart, which I know super dumb

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idea. Right. And, you know, I tried that once. It did. Yes, I did. I tried that once. I tried

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dumbing myself down to make myself more attractive to a boy. Young ladies do not do this. Please

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don't. It's not. It's not that attractive. Honey, it's not worth it. Because if he's scared that,

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because if he feels like if he feels emasculated because you're smarter than he are, or you're

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better than better at something than he is, honey, he is not the one for you. Don't do that. Yeah.

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Don't do that. I did that once and I had a headache. No, being dumb hurts your brain. It does. So,

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get back to the song. Yeah. So, get back to the song. So, basically, it was just every time I

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saw him in the hall, every time I got a note from him in my locker, I just heard this song and I

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was just like, oh my god. And, you know, that is absolutely one of my favorite Funko Pops too.

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Okay. Is the, is the How Will I Know Whitney? Yeah. Yes. Because I also collect Funkos.

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Mm-hmm. Mine's a little different. I was late to the ball in terms of falling in love and feelings

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and all that. And I didn't get my first girlfriend until I was 19. Really? Yeah, no. That's how late

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I was. And let's put it this way. The girls I wanted to date when I was in high school, you know,

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the same girls that were at this reunion for the most part, they just simply didn't want anything

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to do with me. I'm going to be honest. I was a different person back then. Much different. Much,

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much different. I was Switzerland. So, I was everybody's buddy. Nobody had that kind of an

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interest in me. See, I would have had an interest in you. Yeah. But again, when I was 18 years,

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when I was 17 years old when I graduated, you were eight. No. Stop it, you. Stop it. Well, hey.

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But I finally got to date somebody when we met in chemistry class at OCC, Ocean County College,

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in 1986 because yours truly failed biology. Yeah, I did. I wasn't very good at biology. I took it

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because it was more of a challenge than chemistry. I'm good with numbers. I could do mathematics. I

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can basically figure out things doing that. But I was not very good at biology yet. I took it

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to challenge myself to see if I would pass. But boy, it may as well have been learning Greek.

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And I didn't do well. And so I, you know, it goes back to one of the most humiliating and

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humbling days of my life, May 29th, 1986, which I graduated went through the whole process. And then

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when it came time to get my diploma, my actual diploma back up in one of the buildings there.

386
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Yeah, no, I didn't. It said I didn't pass. So I wasn't, I wasn't officially graduated. So I took

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a chemistry class. And that's where I met this young lady who was 17 at the time. And she was a

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senior at Monsignor Donovan High School. And we just hit it off right at the end of that, that

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six week period. And we went out for just over a year when it was all said and done. I don't think

390
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her parents were all that keen about me, but it never was, you know, it is what it is. And one

391
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night we were just sitting there, you know, just lying on a bed. And the song Always and Forever

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came up by Heatwave. That is one of the all time ultimate love songs, if you ever heard it. It's,

393
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you know, it's just a beautiful song from Stark to finish. And I said, you know what, if, if, you

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know, of course, I was talking foolish at that time, and I was thinking, you know,

395
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my first love is going to be the one that I marry. Because that's what you hope for.

396
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Yeah, I had the same thoughts about this guy. And now today, if you asked me that, it would be a

397
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resounding hell no. No. But yeah, this is, you know, like I said, this was somebody that I had

398
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gone through enough with with her and heard this song. And I said, yeah, that's it. That's the

399
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wedding. So I had, you know, and I've got all these thoughts in my head. And boy was I blind.

400
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Also, you planned out your wedding too. Yeah, I was blind as hell. You know, it was,

401
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it was darker than a dark night was apparently. Oops. Oops. Okay. Little did I know that, yeah,

402
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you know, things were going to go sideways. And the thing is, you know,

403
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you know, the thing is, you know, we, she and I maintained a very good friendship

404
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all these years later. I just haven't really talked to her in a number of years. But she,

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she'll always be close to me because, you know, you never forget your first good or bad.

406
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You don't forget your first. I don't know how you feel about that.

407
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I mean, I will, I mean, I will never ever, ever, ever forget him. But

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sometimes when I think about it in those quiet moments, like in the middle of the night,

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I probably wish I would have done things differently. Oh, well, I think we all do in

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some relationships. Yeah, we do that. But then I try not to think about that a whole, whole lot.

411
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Listen, I understand that all too well. With her, I can never have

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a hatred or a bone of hatred toward her. She was always kind to me. It was not an easy decision

413
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because, as I said, it was not, I don't really think it was quote unquote her decision. I think

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her parents put some pressure on her to, and I think faith had something to do with it too.

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Catholic school girl, Jew, I don't think. Also, it sounds kind of like, are you their

416
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God? It's me, Margaret. Yeah. Yeah. The way you mentioned that, yeah. And unfortunately,

417
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I think they forced her to give up me. And she wound up going out with some other guy,

418
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and she wound up marrying him. And they're still married, believe it or not. So I give them credit.

419
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But I don't, there's always going to be feelings there, no matter what. And I don't,

420
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the difference is I don't try to act on them. I had to move on, whether I liked it or not. It

421
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took a long while to get over that first heartbreak. But yeah, you, I'll always, with your first,

422
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you're always going to remember a lot of things. So that's, you know, that's kind of that whole

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deal with that. And I've moved on, obviously, it was almost 40 years ago. So I kind of moved on from

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it, you know, summer of 1987, I've kind of moved on from all that there was about it. But she'll

425
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always have a place in me, no matter what. There's no hard feelings. And she's just, you know,

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she was, she was a sweetheart. I still think she is to this day. So even though I haven't talked to

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her in a long while, I mean, you know, I do have hard feelings, to be honest, I have hard feelings.

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But maturity is realizing that this person does not really mean the best for you.

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This person will always be a part of the story of you. But, you know, again, maturity and wisdom

430
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is realizing that this person is not the person for you. No, no, that, you know, it's just not it.

431
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No. And to this day, I always kind of wonder what would have happened at that particular point

432
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had we just continued on and all that maybe my life is different at that point. Maybe I'm not so

433
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jaded, but hey, it's taken me a while to figure all that out. Hey, you know who's on tour, by the way?

434
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Who? Oasis. They're going to be on tour. Aren't the tickets like super expensive? Yeah, I got a friend

435
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who is in a lottery for those tickets and she just got into the lottery. So I guess the next

436
00:45:53,120 --> 00:46:01,280
phase is coming up. So she's like over the moon over that. They should have odds with Oasis. Like

437
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what are the, you know, so and so odds on if they fight the two brother, the two Gallagher

438
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fathers fight in the middle of a concert or the odds of them fighting like between stops on the tour.

439
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They already have admitted they will not do a, they will not do interview sessions together.

440
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Okay, because they know they're going to step over one another and it's going, they think it's

441
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going to be ugly. So they're apparently going to be doing these interview sessions, Noel and Liam

442
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apart. Okay, I know. Why bother if you're just going to be like, okay, it's it's still super

443
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competitive. These guys are in their fifties. Come on. Okay, I guess. Oh my goodness. But you know,

444
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I'm always going to have Wonderwall no matter what. Still one of my all time favorite songs.

445
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I love that song and Champagne Supernova is another great song by them. But you know,

446
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you know, that was the 90s. Yeah, that was the, that was like 95 96.

447
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All right. So let's change tracks here. All right. Halloween is in two weeks. Gotcha. So I will not

448
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bore everybody out there about how I grew up not celebrating Halloween. That's, that's another topic

449
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for another time. Understood. Yeah. So we're not even at Halloween just yet. Yeah, I know. But Halloween

450
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is in two weeks. I know that's the harsh reality. Yes. So I so as I've said in our previous episode,

451
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I am a teacher. And at the school I teach at one of our annual traditions is that the daycare,

452
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the little babies that attend our campuses daycare, the daycare babies, yes, yes, my daycare buddies.

453
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Um, we have the daycare has a costume parade. So all the little babies wear their Halloween

454
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costumes and they parade throughout the campus. Right. And you know, all us teachers stand outside

455
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our classrooms and we give out candy and things like that. And you know, some years, um, as faculty,

456
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we will dress up in costumes. Like in years past, we have all dressed up as characters from Harry

457
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Potter. So you know, I was the plants professor one year. And I have an excellent picture of that.

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This year, we are doing inside out and I will be sadness. You're gonna be sadness. Yes, I'm gonna

459
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be sadness. I mean, you know, I'm kind of chunky like sadness. And I have the glasses. So you know,

460
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I have my I have my blue wig. I have my little thick gray sweater. I have blue leggings. Yes,

461
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I will go all out. All right. Now, speaking of Halloween costumes, so you know, Spirit,

462
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uh, Halloween store as well as some other places have like these questionable costumes. Yeah,

463
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as to not infringe on the copyright of the original character. So what I'm going to do, Mark, is that

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I am going to give you a costume name. Okay. And you tell me what who the character is. I'm gonna

465
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do my best. All right. First one. Where's the stripy dude?

466
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For first off, the where the kind of gives it away that has to be Waldo. Okay. Yes,

467
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you are correct. It is where's Waldo. All right. Okay. Next one. Purple pain.

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Purple pain. No, it's purple. Purple. P. U. P. P. L. E. Pain. Well, I'm going to

469
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guess that purple is kind of like purple. And I'm going to go and guess the late great prince. Yes.

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Yes. This is the prince costume. All right. Okay. Next one. Blue speed mouse.

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Blue speed mouse. Yes. Oh, boy. Blue speed mouse. Blue.

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Mouse. Yes. That sounds like a Tom and Jerry thing. No, no, it's not. Jerry's not blue. No.

473
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No. Blue speed. Then that can't be speedy Gonzalez. No. No. No. Blue speed mouse.

474
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Okay. I'm not even going to try a third attempt here. Okay. It's Sonic the Hedgehog. See,

475
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yeah, I didn't I'm not a Sonic the Hedgehog kind of guy here. So I couldn't help there. Okay. Next one.

476
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Money wise clown. Money wise clown. Yikes. Money wise clown. Sounds like crusty. No. No. No.

477
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Okay. This one you got me on. I'd probably have heard this, but go ahead. Penny wise from it. Oh,

478
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:39,200
from it. Okay. Again, I wasn't following it as much. Okay. Next one. You're probably going to get

479
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:50,880
this one. Comover leadership wig guy. Does he have the most beautiful rallies going? Is it that guy?

480
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:58,000
Yes. Is it, you know, somebody who praises him calls him the most wonderful, beautiful person on the

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planet. Yes. That sounds like Trump to me. Yes. Yes. It is it is him. All right. Next one.

482
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Podcasters for Trump, baby. Not us. Not us. No. No. No. No. No. No. Okay. Go on. Next one. Okay.

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Next one. Wizard boy. W I Z Z R D wizard boy. That has to be Harry Potter. Yes. It is Harry

484
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Potter. Okay. Okay. This one's a little tough. Okay. This one's tough. The rice is strange.

485
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The rice is strange. Yes. Is not the leader of a Chinese restaurant, is it? No. No. No. No. The

486
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:50,000
rice is strange. Boy. It's not Jerry Rice. No. No. No. No. That I don't know. You're going to

487
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:59,200
challenge me on that one. Okay. It is a Minnie Mouse costume. All right. I do not know where

488
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:06,160
they got the rice is strange from for a Minnie Mouse costume. Yes. They just could have said

489
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:13,120
pretty mouse or girl mouse. Right. I don't I don't know where they got this from. I yeah,

490
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:19,680
that just totally throws me off. All right. Give me one more. Okay. Last one. Pew Besant

491
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frog of silent war.

492
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Pew Besant war frog. Yes. Of silent war. Yes. Oh boy. Definitely not Kermit. No. No.

493
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:44,240
Not crazy frog from axel F thing. No. No. No. Frog frog. Ribbit ribbit. No. I do not know.

494
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:51,360
I'm going to read to you again. Pew Besant frog. Okay. That's a pre preteen frog.

495
00:53:53,440 --> 00:54:01,760
That would be pre. Pew Besant. Pre. Bebesant. Okay. Pew Besant frog of silent war. Silent war.

496
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:11,840
Is it obvious? Kind of sort of. But one part of it kind of throws throws the whole thing off.

497
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Oh no. I can't see it. The Michigan the Michigan rag frog from the WB.

498
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:32,800
I know. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Oh Donatello or. Yes. Yes. Yes. The frog totally throws you

499
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:41,920
off. Yeah. I believe me. I'll go for a pizza. I don't know. It's about it. Okay. All right. So

500
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:47,600
yeah that kind of because they can't really go by the names of these people or characters. So

501
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:54,000
you know they're copyright things. Yeah. I like this this podcast and stuff. Okay. Okay. One final

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00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:04,400
one. All right. Let's make it quick. Juice demon. Juice demon. Yes. Juice demon. Yeah.

503
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:15,680
Orange. No. No. Apple. No. Juice demon. No. I'm going to say that something to do with a like

504
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:27,760
power. Not a power aid but a. No. Yeah. No. Go on. Beetle juice. Juice demon. I get it. I get it.

505
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All right. All right. So we always try to finish it out by going somewhere back in time musically.

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We're going to look back at the top six songs from this week every week in a different year and

507
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since it was my 43 union. Let's go back to this week in 1983. How's that? My senior year. Third

508
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:55,520
grade. Third grade. I was I was a senior and we were actually listening to these songs because

509
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:01,680
they were actually really cool, cool songs back then. So so here's what the Billboard Hot 100

510
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:09,280
had as a top six songs from this date in 1983. Number six, the fix one thing leads to another.

511
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:16,480
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Number five, arguably the greatest country music duet in history.

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00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:27,520
What? You know this song written by the Bee Gees. What is that? Kenny Dolly. Oh my god. How do you

513
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:32,960
not know that? Oh my god. Well, I didn't know the Bee Gees wrote it. Oh my god. I love islands in the

514
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:38,240
stream. Oh my god. We go on to be a number one song two weeks later. Number four, one of those

515
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:48,880
ultra smooth songs of the time by a group called Spandau Ballet. Oh, I love true. So true. Oh my god.

516
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:57,120
Yes. Yes. Number three came from the number one album in America this week in 1983. The album called

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00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:04,960
Syncraticity and I played this cassette, The Death. I love this song, especially that first line

518
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:14,720
about a little black dot on the sun. Yeah. It's a king of pain. Oh, three. Yes. I don't know that one.

519
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:19,840
You do. Oh, believe me. You'll know when you hear it. And then interestingly, the top two songs

520
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:25,600
in America were written and produced by the same man. We lost him in 2021, but he'll his music will

521
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:32,720
always still be there. The guy who was Meatloaf's sidekick, Jim Steinman. Number two was Making Love

522
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:39,040
Out of Nothing at All by Air Supply. Okay, I know that one. And then the number one song,

523
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,280
the biggest hit for a Welsh lady whose real name was Gainer Hopkins, by the way,

524
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:49,680
but we know her as Bonnie Tyler. Okay. The song Totally Clips of the Heart. How do you not forget

525
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:56,640
the late summer of 1983 without that song? I'm telling you. So, yep. And that's our look back

526
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:03,840
to this week in 1983. Hey, we made it through the first one. Okay. Okay. Yeah. We'll get,

527
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let's do this again next week. Of course, we'll try to post this as soon as we can by tomorrow

528
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or by tonight. Who knows who knows what we will get it and we'll try to post these things.

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These podcasts on Sunday night or early Monday morning, it is dependent on who is awake and

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it was not, but we will do so. So until then, I am Mark and I'm Kamisa and thank you for listening

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or getting through this whole hour with it. And we will be back for volume two or episode two

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next week of Kamisa and Mark Makeup Podcast. So until then, you have a wonderful week. We'll see

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again this time next week. Bye everybody. Bye.

