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Dr. Jerry, you got the whole world waiting. Been

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ready for you to start the conversation. Your

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point of view, it got the haters confused. Leave

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it up to you to bring us all the good news. Positive

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vibes and the sex appeal too. Dr. Andre Jerry,

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can I get an interview? You, you, you, you, you,

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you, you. Welcome to Live with Dr. Andre Jerry,

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your prime time destination for bold conversations.

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Unfiltered truth and real -life inspiration.

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I'm your host dr. Andre Jerry broadcasting live

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from San Juan, Puerto Rico Wherever you're tuning

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in from tonight on behalf of myself and the artist

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first radio network I appreciate your listenership

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and your support So let me ask you something.

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Have you ever wondered what happens after we

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die? like what actually occurs when we leave

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this body or if this life is even all there is.

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If those types of questions ever crossed your

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mind, then you tuned in on a good night. Now,

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over the past decade or so, we've seen a huge

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spike in conversations around spiritual enlightenment,

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manifestation, higher consciousness, near -death

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experiences, all of that. So this subject matter

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is not a niche subject matter anymore. It's everywhere.

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And I think the reason for that is because people

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are waking up. Folks are reaching higher levels

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of awareness and realizing that there's a lot

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more to this life than we can see, touch, or

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explain. We're starting to understand that we're

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not just bodies with souls. We're souls having

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a human experience. And the rise in NDE stories

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is one more confirmation that there's something

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beyond that veil. And many people are hungry

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to know what that something is. Our special guest

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for tonight has lived to tell the tale, literally.

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He's what we call an NDE 'er, someone who's had

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a near -death experience, or more specifically,

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an out -of -body experience. And his story is

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going to shift your whole perspective on this

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thing. Now, if you've been following the show,

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you know I've been sort of low -key obsessed

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with near -death experiences over the past year

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or so. I've watched dozens of personal accounts,

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and you know, each one is different. They have

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different circumstances, different journeys,

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different lessons. But even with those differences,

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there seems to be some common theme that connects

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them all. And while many of these NDE stories

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have left an impression, there was one story

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in particular that really resonated with me.

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So I reached out to the man behind it, and luckily,

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We were able to connect and have him on the show

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tonight. So let's go ahead and get into it. Tonight's

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guest is an Army veteran, international speaker,

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spiritual healer, entrepreneur, and author. His

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new book, I Walk Amongst Gods, debuted at number

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one in its genre on Amazon in February of last

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year and is currently holding strong at number

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six on the bestseller list for teen and young

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adult nonfiction on death. And I'm honored to

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welcome him to the show tonight. Let's give a

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virtual round of applause to our guest tonight,

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Jeff Fleckley. Jeff, how are you today? Thank

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you. I'm doing great. I appreciate the interview.

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I appreciate being here. I'm grateful to be here.

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And I'm just sending light and love to all of

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your listeners right now. Oh, wow. And it's well

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received. And the pleasure is all mine, really.

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I'm very excited that you're here. And hey, listen,

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congrats on your new book, I Walk Amongst God.

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I finished it a couple of days ago. I thought

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it was a fantastic read. And it's been doing

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really well on Amazon. Are you surprised by how

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well received your book has been since it's been

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released? Yes, I am. I am surprised. And yet

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there is also, you know, a I'll say science or

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a method behind. That you know, and that's one

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of the things I'm going to talk about today is

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what I was taught and how to Make manifest things

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in this world. And yes, I am surprised and overwhelmed

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at every step of this journey I've been overwhelmed

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and surprised and just just grateful that the

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end of the Almighty is on me Yes, I understand.

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I get it. I'm a published author as well it's

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always a great feeling when your hard work is

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recognized and and well received by others. And

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we're going to talk a little bit more about your

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book a little later. But first, can you tell

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our listeners a little bit about what was happening

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in your life prior to your near death experience

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and the circumstances that led to that event?

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Yes, so I'll rewind about six months, six months

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before the actual event. And this was a significant

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thing that happened to me. You know, I had so.

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In the book, it eludes, it talks about me being

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a veteran and I was in the service and I was

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a paratrooper. I jumped out of planes and I had

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a few bad accidents. You know, in my time, I

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gave to the United States military parachuting

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accidents that left me in a lot of pain when

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I exited the service of the military. And so

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around this time, I had been dealing with these

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back issues since I got out of the service in

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the 90s. And now we're at, we'll say this is

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2012, December of 2012. And I'd been dealing

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with it, working on the VA, helping me in my

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pain management. And this particular time, you

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know, they, I, my back just gave out and on June,

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I mean December 21st, 2012. I remember the day

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specifically, I woke up that day. I was off from

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my job and I was going to do Christmas shopping

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for my two younger children who were home with

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me at the time, you know, living with me. I shared

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custody with with them, you know, my daughter

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was 16 and my son was four at that time. And

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so I got up to go and doing the shopping and

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that day my back just completely gave out. I

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fell to the floor and I could not walk. I was

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in so much pain I couldn't walk. And I remember

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crawling to the bathroom. pulling myself up on

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my bathroom sink to reach in to my medicine cabinet

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and get some Vicodin's that I had in there from

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a tooth extraction I had maybe a month or two

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prior and You know that right there was the what

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set it all off. So now I go to I Get help from

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the VA and they put me on these powerful painkillers

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at this time Before they wouldn't put me on the

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powerful painkillers, you know, I was taking

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For this back pain over the span of 15 20 years

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You know a leave and and I see the medicine but

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at this time, you know So now I go I get a meeting

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with the VA I you know, I make my way to the

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VA hospital I could barely walk drag myself to

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the car, you know, they had to send out a wheelchair

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to wheel me in because I couldn't get out of

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my car. And so now they put me on these very

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powerful painkillers that, you know, for at this

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time, at that time I was happy to have them.

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I was happy to be on them, you know, and I'm

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going through this, you know, and now we're in

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January, we're in December. And then, you know,

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I noticed when I look back on this whole situation,

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I noticed things just kept spiraling the wrong

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way before I actually died. So the next thing

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that happened to me, not even a few days later,

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I caught pneumonia. Now, I'm in bed, I can't

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move, and I got pneumonia. We're still in December,

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headed towards January of 2012, headed towards

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January 2013. I can't move. You know, I got pneumonia.

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I thought, that's weird, I got pneumonia. And

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if I cough, sneeze, or anything, it hurts my

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back. It was just a lot of pain. And so I got

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over the pneumonia. I'm still in back pain. Mobility

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is at zero, can't get around, hard to do anything.

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And all of a sudden, I don't know what it was,

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but we're in the February of 2013 and I contract

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MRSA. Now, for those who don't know what MRSA

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is, MRSA is a bacterial infection that has killed

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many people, you know, and it's a serious bacterial

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infection. And so I contract this MRSA. I'm taken

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to the hospital and I'm in the hospital for seven

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days on you know with IVs of antibiotics in my

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veins you know just constantly flowing through

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you know and I remember on the sixth day from

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the sixth day I'm in there the doctor comes he

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said we got it we got as much as we could he

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sat down on my bedside and I remember it he said

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you know people die from this and we used we

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reason why you've been here so long is because

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all of the strains of antibiotic weren't working

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and you know that we use the strongest one here

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on earth he said if this wasn't the work you

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would have expired so that was another thing

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leading up that when i look back in retrospect

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leading up to this and it seems like you know

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i i put together this theory that people see

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their deaths come and they just don't recognize

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it you know and i put together that theory about

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myself because you know after I had the MRSA

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then they had to go and do surgery on my knee

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where where it originated uh because they couldn't

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get it all it was in my bloodstream was everywhere

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so they had to go and do surgery and clean out

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all around my bone and everything around my knee

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to get all the bacteria out so now I'm off of

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the MRSA I'm in I'm actually uh stitched up you

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know my leg is I'm in stitches this uh eight

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inch scar from my knee to my shin and I can't

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walk anyway because I, my back's still hurting

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from these painkillers. But at this time now

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we're rolling into April of 2013 and I'm sick

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of being in the house for six months now, close

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to six months. Um, and I just, I decided that,

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you know, I had a friend or a female friend that

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was single at the time or separated working on

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the force. And I decided that. No, I wasn't going

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to live life. Just, uh, just cooped up. So I

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planned a date with this female friend of mine

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and I began to get ready for this, this date

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and, uh, back was hurting and I was in a lot

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of pain. And so I took, uh, my, my pills on time

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and regularly scheduled. And I, as I'm getting

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ready, I realized the pain wasn't going away.

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So I took two more. And I was allowed that much,

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you know, for paying. And something happened

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in the time I was getting ready and being loopy

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from the four pills I had just taken, the four

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opiates that I had taken. I took two more. And

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now, and this is in the span of, I'm going to

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give it 45 minutes, six of these powerful painkillers.

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And that's what's started you know my overdose

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and I remember what I can remember how it started

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was the nausea that came you know and then I'm

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in the bathroom and the sweating profusely I

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I'd never sweat like that I used to play basketball

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football and everything I've never sweat like

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that just not doing anything it's running down

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my face and I'm vomiting into the bathroom toilet

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and then it got so bad that I couldn't hold myself

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at the bathroom toilet so I'm just on my side

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vomiting and there's this pain that I'm feeling

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and like someone stabbed me in the stomach and

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it felt like a bunch of my stomach was hurting

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I had vomited everything out of the contents

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of my insides so now it's just dry heaves and

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pain and I'm feeling myself fading in and out

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of consciousness it was just and there was just

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this moment when you come to the realization

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I'm dying like nothing ever you know nothing

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you know even in my parachuting accidents I never

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it never well there's one time that it crossed

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my mind that I could be dying but not like this

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it wasn't like this there was one accident I

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had that I thought I was dying but it wasn't

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like I just had a lot of brain swelling um that's

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that's what that was about but this was you know

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i just knew it i just this is when i even said

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it in my mind you know this is what it's like

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so this is it you know but once the thing about

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that experience right there was there was a point

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where all of the pain and the fear just stopped

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you know it just stopped and That pain and that

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fear were gone and all of a sudden I'm looking

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at myself laying on the floor You know, I'm looking

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at myself for mom and I'm like that's me And

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then it got real it got real after that because

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as soon as I see myself laying there It's like

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something back into me and I began to be pulled

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Through this tunnel through this tunnel, and

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I'm being whisked down this tunnel at a high

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rate of speed. And one of the things I remember

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is that, you know, being a paratrooper and being

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in planes and moving fast through the air, you

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can feel the wind rushing up. I felt no wind

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rushing. I just moved through this tunnel very

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fast. I came out on the other side of this tunnel

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where the light was, where the light was, and

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I'm in this place. It's a realm. How I explain

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it in the book is It's like you're standing at

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the edge of space, but there's no stars. And

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you're looking out into this abyss, this void,

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this darkness, and these three beings approach.

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They just appear. They don't come moving at me.

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They just appear right in front of me. And the

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one, what I call the main being, it had the essence

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of a woman. And this is what I speak on this.

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I always say that, you know, I think in my experience

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and every experience is different because I believe

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that in its infinite wisdom, creation, the creator

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brings us to this place with things that we can

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relate to or we don't have a fear of. So, you

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know, I relate very well to women. So this, this

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mother figure is female figure was who was alcohol

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handling me or being the one guiding me through

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this. Uh, what now became the, uh, the, the,

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uh, what we call what in the near death, the,

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uh, life review. So I didn't know anything about

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this life review or anything. So I'm standing

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here now. I should go back and mention that as

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I'm coming through this tunnel, all of life.

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All everything that I had going on on the earth

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plane. It was like in an instant I cared nothing

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about. Had no more care for it. It's like I released

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all of that holding on to anything that that

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was there except for my son who was at that time

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four years old. And I was I was in this struggle

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moving through this tunnel as I'm dying. But

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the thing that was on my mind the most was, my

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son, he's gonna be raised without a father here.

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Being an African -American male, I strongly believe

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and know that African -American males, all males

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need their fathers. Yet the circumstances that

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happen in the United States is is where an african

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-american male can excel greatly if he's got

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a father in his life and a father figure and

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I Felt that about my son and I was very angry

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about dying, you know, I was I was mad So by

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the time I get to this this spot, I'm standing

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in when I'm whisked through, you know, I'm angry

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about dying Because of my son I didn't want to

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leave him there Here on earth without me and

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so um I I I must say this though While i'm angry

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like that this place that i'm in There's only

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love here. The only feeling that I felt here

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was love and um It was the most beautiful love

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that i've ever felt. I haven't experienced that

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love here in the earth realm and you know my

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father is a loving man and he's always loved

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me with this love that sometimes I even thought

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it was more than my brothers because we had this

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thing where you know we had this big hug and

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that's what he called it give me my big hug hey

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Jeff where's my big hug he'd come in from he'd

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come in from work anytime you know and it's Jeff

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where's my big hug and that's the love that we

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have and he still at 80 years old gives me that

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big hug and hey and nowadays he'll say the reason

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I squeeze you so hard is because I'm pushing

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this love into you when I squeeze you you know

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so That's the love that I've experienced here

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from my father. And I was there on that side

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and that love there was greater than that love

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that I feel for my father. My father feels for

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me. And that for me growing up with a father

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and my father being a driving force in my life

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and teaching me a lot about loving. It was more

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powerful than that. So for me, it was more powerful

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than that love. This love is so powerful that

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it's the reason why I do what I do this day.

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And so that love was in that place. And now I'm

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standing here and now I begin my life review.

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And as I'm going through my life review, we would

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go through scenes of my life where I did great

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things. And I can remember these things, you

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know, helping a homeless person that nobody would

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help, you know, helping, doing things in people's

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lives, you know, making them feel happy. And

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you could feel that joy you gave them, you know,

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when you're watching it and then you can feel

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the joy that they felt, you know, and those were

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good things. And the being that was with me,

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it was encouraging. It was like, here you did

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a great job. This was wonderful, you know. Continue

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that in your journey and then we came to the

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the aspect of The bad things now the bad things

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that when we come across the bad thing I would

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get this it wasn't a chastisement It was just

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telling me that I you know, you did it wrong

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and next time Do it a better way or do it this

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way. This was that this was the teaching that

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now now when she was when this being Was saying

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next time she wasn't talking about me going back

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right now She meant because they had already

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put it in my mind what was about to happen So

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what was about to happen was after this life

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review? I was going to be reincarnated back into

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the world as a baby and I would have to All those

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things that I didn't fix didn't have right in

00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:04.700
the previous life This would be my opportunity

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to fix those things and continue to build on

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the great things or the good things that I was

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doing in life now. So when, when that was about

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to happen, so, so now they were telling me these

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things. So for the next time for my reincarnation,

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so she was more or less, it was more of a, it

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was a chastisement I would say, but not in the

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sense that you did it wrong about it and make

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you feel bad. No. was the I was only made to

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feel good about about Everything that was happening.

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I only felt good but what was in me was the conviction

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of Knowing that I did wrong now after they show

00:21:45.769 --> 00:21:48.130
it to you and you feel the pain of the person

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that that you hurt and then it Let's see. What

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can we call it spiderwebs or it cascades into

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the lives of the of the person the people that

00:22:01.269 --> 00:22:03.470
love the person that you hurt you could feel

00:22:03.470 --> 00:22:07.109
how it messed up their their lives and the things

00:22:07.109 --> 00:22:10.269
that you've done to to hurt other people you're

00:22:10.269 --> 00:22:13.390
not just directly that person but you hurt this

00:22:13.390 --> 00:22:15.829
person you hurt his mother you know you hurt

00:22:15.829 --> 00:22:19.430
his brother you hurt his father because they

00:22:19.430 --> 00:22:24.049
felt pain when you hurt this person so this was

00:22:24.049 --> 00:22:26.309
what I was feeling and this is what I was being

00:22:26.309 --> 00:22:32.980
shown now after The life review This is when

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it was like, what do you got to say for yourself

00:22:36.220 --> 00:22:40.240
before you go on and reincarnate? You know and

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and I I was still feeling that anger that I was

00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:47.640
gonna leave my son behind and And I don't know

00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:50.140
where it came from. Maybe it was out of anger

00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:55.819
desperation, but I said look Um, you sent me

00:22:55.819 --> 00:22:58.059
down there and I said this is exactly what I

00:22:58.059 --> 00:23:02.970
said You or whoever's running this You sent me

00:23:02.970 --> 00:23:05.990
down there and you never showed me how to do

00:23:05.990 --> 00:23:10.250
it and yet I stand before you and You're telling

00:23:10.250 --> 00:23:14.190
me that I've been doing life wrong down there

00:23:14.190 --> 00:23:18.509
if I go with you fine, this is the guy even said

00:23:18.509 --> 00:23:21.009
it this is the best feeling I ever felt in all

00:23:21.009 --> 00:23:27.009
of my existence and I go with you fine yet you

00:23:27.009 --> 00:23:29.569
send me back and teach me how to do it I'll do

00:23:29.569 --> 00:23:35.970
it right and with that this is when this million

00:23:35.970 --> 00:23:41.349
I've had uncountable number of light beings of

00:23:41.349 --> 00:23:44.130
light just appeared in that darkness in the back

00:23:44.130 --> 00:23:47.529
that in that darkness I spoke about the void

00:23:47.529 --> 00:23:51.130
issue and they began to impart something into

00:23:51.130 --> 00:23:56.140
my brain that at that time at that moment When

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all of them began to speak or put into my mind,

00:24:00.420 --> 00:24:05.380
it sounded like thunder. It was so loud I couldn't

00:24:05.380 --> 00:24:09.619
comprehend what was being said and I was about

00:24:09.619 --> 00:24:12.660
to speak. And just when I was about to speak

00:24:12.660 --> 00:24:17.420
to the being that was right there with me, it

00:24:17.420 --> 00:24:21.440
said, don't worry about trying to understand

00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:25.869
it. You'll understand it when you get back. And

00:24:25.869 --> 00:24:28.349
I'm getting fed with all these things now as

00:24:28.349 --> 00:24:30.869
they're doing that as they're putting all of

00:24:30.869 --> 00:24:34.190
this into my head I'm having a conversation with

00:24:34.190 --> 00:24:39.029
these three things You know the the the two that

00:24:39.029 --> 00:24:40.930
were on the side and the female that was the

00:24:40.930 --> 00:24:45.390
main one that I will say female gender Essence,

00:24:45.549 --> 00:24:48.349
you know because it wasn't running male was female

00:24:48.349 --> 00:24:53.509
essence and so They began to put in me things

00:24:53.509 --> 00:24:59.220
about The the earth realm that I needed to know,

00:24:59.380 --> 00:25:02.700
you know, you know, and they they put in me about

00:25:02.700 --> 00:25:07.920
that that mankind first they put into me that

00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.579
I Had to teach this if I'm going back that was

00:25:10.579 --> 00:25:13.539
the deal that was made if you're going back You

00:25:13.539 --> 00:25:16.099
got to teach this so soon as those beings popped

00:25:16.099 --> 00:25:18.359
up this million They started that downloaded

00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:20.200
into me that you're gonna have to teach this

00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:22.740
and this information that you're Receiving right

00:25:22.740 --> 00:25:26.160
now is what you're going to teach so They began

00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:29.099
to download this information and those beings

00:25:29.099 --> 00:25:32.940
began to speak and as they began to speak They

00:25:32.940 --> 00:25:35.579
were telling me how mankind is being corralled

00:25:35.579 --> 00:25:38.059
This is saying the words that they said mankind

00:25:38.059 --> 00:25:41.759
is being corralled into a way of thinking that

00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.599
That is not their own yet. They believe it's

00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:47.720
their own because of the choices that we've been

00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:52.579
given so it's basically here on earth we're given

00:25:52.579 --> 00:25:54.940
a choice we're only given two choices and these

00:25:54.940 --> 00:25:57.259
aren't these aren't the choices it can be any

00:25:57.259 --> 00:26:01.700
circumstance and i can relate to the uh the the

00:26:01.700 --> 00:26:04.240
this was before the pandemic but i can relate

00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.940
to the pandemic as what they were talking about

00:26:07.940 --> 00:26:10.000
because we were given choices but we weren't

00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:12.480
given all the choices you know and these were

00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.140
some things that then you know i'm just jumping

00:26:15.140 --> 00:26:18.000
ahead about that that fact about these choices

00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:22.569
and that It's been happening all throughout our

00:26:22.569 --> 00:26:27.670
existence here how we are Every choice that we

00:26:27.670 --> 00:26:33.069
ache takes away a freedom it takes a bait away

00:26:33.069 --> 00:26:37.990
a chisels at our God given the right to Our free

00:26:37.990 --> 00:26:41.470
will and our freedoms here on earth And so I

00:26:41.470 --> 00:26:44.289
was being shown this and then I was being told

00:26:44.289 --> 00:26:49.549
that I needed to study every aspect of the human

00:26:49.549 --> 00:26:53.150
existence when I got back. So I had to do that.

00:26:53.450 --> 00:26:58.410
I had to, and then I had to teach what I'm being

00:26:58.410 --> 00:27:03.089
told, what I'm being taught here back, you know,

00:27:03.089 --> 00:27:09.410
when I get back. So they gave me a lot of things,

00:27:09.630 --> 00:27:14.210
a lot of information, and sometimes I, you know,

00:27:14.220 --> 00:27:17.720
It's so much that you can't fit it all in one

00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:22.000
segment because it's information about the existence

00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:27.039
of humankind, you know, here in this realm. So

00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:34.559
with that and all of the information, they said,

00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.859
all right, it's time to go back. And so when

00:27:38.859 --> 00:27:41.740
it was time to go back, they said, OK, think

00:27:41.740 --> 00:27:46.519
on the one thing. That oh, I forgot This is the

00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:49.920
main thing. Um, and there was a there was one

00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.259
thing they began to speak to me It I'll call

00:27:53.259 --> 00:27:56.599
it God and this was my charge They said this

00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.359
they told me this they said I'm gonna give you

00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:01.339
these things these three things you do these

00:28:01.339 --> 00:28:04.200
three things and your walk in life will be easy

00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:08.640
and When you get back and one and it was three

00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:12.190
commandments basically one love everything Because

00:28:12.190 --> 00:28:16.230
I am everything. Now this is creation speaking

00:28:16.230 --> 00:28:19.769
to me at this time. Love everything because I

00:28:19.769 --> 00:28:24.289
am everything. Fear nothing. Because fear and

00:28:24.289 --> 00:28:27.730
doubt are the destroyer of mankind. And the last

00:28:27.730 --> 00:28:33.650
thing was know that I am God. And it told me

00:28:33.650 --> 00:28:36.509
if I do those three things, to love everything

00:28:36.509 --> 00:28:39.380
because it's everything. Fear nothing. Because

00:28:39.380 --> 00:28:42.319
fear and dollar the destroyer of mankind and

00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:45.980
know that I am God That my walk in this life

00:28:45.980 --> 00:28:50.380
will be easy and that the things that I in this

00:28:50.380 --> 00:28:54.700
life that I want will come easy and so With that

00:28:54.700 --> 00:28:57.220
they told me to focus on the one thing on this

00:28:57.220 --> 00:29:03.420
earth on the earth that you love and by this

00:29:03.420 --> 00:29:06.819
time There was nothing on earth. I loved except

00:29:06.819 --> 00:29:11.119
for my my four -year -old son that was it because

00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.819
something about separating from the earth plane

00:29:14.819 --> 00:29:18.339
and going into this place you just leave every

00:29:18.339 --> 00:29:21.519
you lost love for everything on that place it's

00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.660
interesting it was my experience was interesting

00:29:24.660 --> 00:29:27.720
that I you know I didn't have a love for you

00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:31.819
know eat at that time you know I could say I

00:29:31.819 --> 00:29:34.500
was able to let go of my brothers, my sister,

00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:37.799
my family, my mother, my father. I was able to

00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.440
let all of that go, you know, and be cool with

00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.079
it. And that's what, so the only thing I had

00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.940
that I've truly loved back on earth was my son.

00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.460
I focused on that. And the next thing you know,

00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:56.160
I'm back in my body. Six hours had gone by. I'm

00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:01.519
crying. I know what just happened to me and You

00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:05.039
know, I was crying tears of joy because you don't

00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:07.819
touch that thing without feeling that love. That

00:30:07.819 --> 00:30:12.900
love was so, that's what keeps me going to this

00:30:12.900 --> 00:30:16.759
day is that love that I felt and the embrace.

00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:22.359
I just knew I had just spoke to God, met God.

00:30:22.859 --> 00:30:25.859
I wrote in one thing once and I said, I just

00:30:25.859 --> 00:30:28.599
danced with death and it was beautiful. It was

00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:31.480
amazing. It was beautiful. And I survived it.

00:30:31.579 --> 00:30:36.859
I came back. But the, you know, this was my love,

00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.079
the love that God had put in me. It had me crying

00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.099
on the floor. I was reflecting on everything

00:30:43.099 --> 00:30:45.839
that happened. And I'm thinking to myself, now

00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:51.480
this just happened. And I had a lot of questions.

00:30:51.579 --> 00:30:55.119
I had many questions. The pain in my stomach

00:30:55.119 --> 00:31:00.710
was back. My throat was very... dry from dry

00:31:00.710 --> 00:31:05.670
heaving and throwing up. Yet I had many questions

00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:10.829
and I wanted to go back. Believe it or not, I

00:31:10.829 --> 00:31:15.410
wanted to feel that love again. So that's what

00:31:15.410 --> 00:31:21.930
led me into the transcendental meditations and

00:31:21.930 --> 00:31:24.970
my spiritual awakening because now I wanted to

00:31:24.970 --> 00:31:27.799
experience That again and how do I get back to

00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:31.980
that feeling? So I tried many things, you know,

00:31:31.980 --> 00:31:35.880
um in the beginning Um, i've experienced dmt

00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.960
because I wanted to now at this time when I came

00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:43.640
back There was something attached to me And at

00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:45.839
in the in the very beginning it was the voice

00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:50.059
It was the silent still voice that was leading

00:31:50.059 --> 00:31:53.480
me in everything I did you know, and it would

00:31:53.480 --> 00:32:01.640
speak to me and so Wanted I would I began Searching

00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:06.839
for my way to feel that so I I tried DMT at least

00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:11.720
six times I Tried mushroom is for anyone who

00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:20.740
is not familiar with that DMT is die I have tripped

00:32:20.740 --> 00:32:25.559
me diethyltryptamine It is a substance that I

00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:27.559
can explain it like this. It's called the spirit

00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:34.779
molecule and DMT. Doctors say, so what I studied

00:32:34.779 --> 00:32:36.779
and this is the reason why I was led to DMT,

00:32:37.700 --> 00:32:39.799
scientists will tell you that every living thing

00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:43.720
has DMT in it. You get this DMT release when

00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:47.359
you're dying. Your brain releases DMT from the

00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:52.240
pineal gland, which I believe, and it's the spirit

00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:58.150
molecule. What is what is? Intended or it's really

00:32:58.150 --> 00:33:02.089
a psychedelic Psychedelic exactly. It's a psychedelic

00:33:02.089 --> 00:33:06.049
that that touches the spiritual side of things

00:33:06.049 --> 00:33:09.430
It's it's natural but it can be synthesized,

00:33:09.430 --> 00:33:14.470
you know, it's and so I Had tried using this

00:33:14.470 --> 00:33:17.289
to try to get the feeling back from when you

00:33:17.289 --> 00:33:23.099
were on the other side yes that and just just

00:33:23.099 --> 00:33:29.400
more answers, more closer to whatever that thing

00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:33.579
is up there that we call God, closer to that.

00:33:33.940 --> 00:33:37.740
You know, so I had experiences in that and I

00:33:37.740 --> 00:33:42.640
did have some some enlightening things happen

00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:46.359
during the DMT experiences. Yet it wasn't it

00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:49.920
felt artificial. It didn't feel like I was touching.

00:33:50.569 --> 00:33:57.210
with with God so I began I just began deep meditation

00:33:57.210 --> 00:34:03.170
deep meditation and and and listening to that

00:34:03.170 --> 00:34:07.549
still voice which which now I can tell you its

00:34:07.549 --> 00:34:12.530
name is Metatron this this guardian angel that

00:34:12.530 --> 00:34:15.869
came back with me you know different circles

00:34:15.869 --> 00:34:18.519
will call it my higher self you know, different

00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:21.820
circles of thinking. I like to call it Metatron.

00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:24.920
I remember that name from the book. Now, was

00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:29.380
Metatron the primary being of the three that

00:34:29.380 --> 00:34:31.760
you saw on the other side, or is this a different...

00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.840
Yes. No, Metatron was not the primary being that

00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:42.000
was there. It was not. It just came with me.

00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.880
And here's the thing that I truly believe was

00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:51.269
we all have... a guardian angel higher self that

00:34:51.269 --> 00:34:56.429
guides us, you know, through this life. I strongly

00:34:56.429 --> 00:34:58.530
believe it. Now, you know, my mother used to

00:34:58.530 --> 00:35:00.590
speak about it when we were kids. I remember

00:35:00.590 --> 00:35:03.510
an incident where we were out, me and my brothers,

00:35:03.650 --> 00:35:06.469
we were out doing something bad. And we came

00:35:06.469 --> 00:35:08.929
home and my mom told us exactly what we did.

00:35:09.550 --> 00:35:12.349
And she said, and we were like, how do you know?

00:35:12.969 --> 00:35:17.050
Say, your guardian angels told me. So that's

00:35:17.050 --> 00:35:21.269
my experience with guardian angels. But what

00:35:21.269 --> 00:35:25.210
I've come to realize is that they are real. Metatron

00:35:25.210 --> 00:35:31.650
is really real to me. If we can get into that

00:35:31.650 --> 00:35:33.889
part of it, I don't want to go off script or

00:35:33.889 --> 00:35:36.610
anything, but there was one incident that happened

00:35:36.610 --> 00:35:40.530
where I wasn't even telling anybody that Metatron

00:35:40.530 --> 00:35:45.320
was with me for at least for years. Even after

00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:47.800
I found out, it was Meditron. I didn't tell anybody,

00:35:48.179 --> 00:35:50.619
because Meditron told me don't tell anybody for

00:35:50.619 --> 00:35:58.239
some years. I walked into a room, a setting where

00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:03.000
a woman who practices Santeria. I don't know

00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:05.800
if you're familiar with Santeria. Being from

00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.420
Puerto Rico, maybe you know about Santeria. I've

00:36:08.420 --> 00:36:11.280
never heard of it before, no. It's more like

00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.239
less down in in Brazil because that's where she

00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:18.099
was from and Santeria is pretty much I Don't

00:36:18.099 --> 00:36:21.699
know you could call it. You could call it a voodoo

00:36:21.699 --> 00:36:26.639
or whatever It that they speak with the spirits

00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.239
of the dead and they give them insight into things

00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:34.579
and you know, this is this is a religion in the

00:36:34.579 --> 00:36:37.820
Caribbean and down there in South America, I

00:36:37.820 --> 00:36:44.429
know So I walk in, I walk in and this individual

00:36:44.429 --> 00:36:47.190
who practices Santeria, and we're not really

00:36:47.190 --> 00:36:49.510
on great terms, but I had to be in this setting.

00:36:49.989 --> 00:36:53.630
So she looked at me and she said, there's a 10

00:36:53.630 --> 00:36:58.090
foot tall dark being that's right behind you.

00:36:59.510 --> 00:37:02.650
And I just, I laughed, I smiled, I said, oh,

00:37:02.650 --> 00:37:05.210
you can see it. I said, that's my protector.

00:37:05.369 --> 00:37:07.750
He's not black, he's blue, he's a deep blue.

00:37:08.030 --> 00:37:10.809
And that's all I said to her, you know. So that

00:37:10.809 --> 00:37:13.110
was the first person that's seen it. And then

00:37:13.110 --> 00:37:17.869
I was at a conference in Carousel in May, and

00:37:17.869 --> 00:37:22.489
there's other spiritual speakers there, and she

00:37:22.489 --> 00:37:26.210
said she saw it. She said, I see Metatron standing

00:37:26.210 --> 00:37:29.489
behind you before I even said anything, you know,

00:37:29.489 --> 00:37:31.550
and that was interesting. But those are the two

00:37:31.550 --> 00:37:35.530
people that I know that have seen this being

00:37:35.530 --> 00:37:40.170
that I speak about. So basically he was a or

00:37:40.170 --> 00:37:43.690
she was a seer and she was a yes. She was a seer.

00:37:43.690 --> 00:37:46.590
Yeah Yeah, and I want to go back for a minute

00:37:46.590 --> 00:37:50.190
because I think when we got to make Metatron

00:37:50.190 --> 00:37:52.389
is the name. I remember that from the book. I

00:37:52.389 --> 00:37:57.449
think we lost some some people there So Metatron

00:37:57.449 --> 00:37:59.630
from what I understand from the book and what

00:37:59.630 --> 00:38:03.429
you're saying today That was the sort of the

00:38:03.429 --> 00:38:06.750
like the spirit guide that came back with you

00:38:06.750 --> 00:38:14.079
Yes after that NDE. Yes. Yes. Yes. Had you experienced

00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:17.579
Metatron before your NDE and just not realize

00:38:17.579 --> 00:38:23.579
it was him or that entity? You know, what I can

00:38:23.579 --> 00:38:27.059
say is throughout life at certain periods of

00:38:27.059 --> 00:38:31.980
time, I've heard this same distinctive, I call

00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:37.750
it this small, still, calm voice, you know. And

00:38:37.750 --> 00:38:40.929
different religions will call it different things.

00:38:41.230 --> 00:38:45.429
They'll call it the Holy Spirit speaking to you.

00:38:45.690 --> 00:38:49.750
It's the smallest, the voice that doesn't make

00:38:49.750 --> 00:38:53.170
you do anything. And you can pass this voice

00:38:53.170 --> 00:38:59.010
up. If the chaos of the world is rambling through

00:38:59.010 --> 00:39:02.789
your head, this voice can go right by. Because

00:39:02.789 --> 00:39:05.730
it'll speak in the softest terms. That's how

00:39:05.730 --> 00:39:08.860
I know. who it is but I experienced it once before

00:39:08.860 --> 00:39:12.579
and or a few times before in my walk through

00:39:12.579 --> 00:39:16.380
life and spirituality as far as uh Christian

00:39:16.380 --> 00:39:19.659
upbringing or trying to want to talk to God in

00:39:19.659 --> 00:39:24.800
earnest you know and just listening um so at

00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.659
that time I didn't know that his name was Metatron

00:39:27.659 --> 00:39:31.119
I was just listening because it was I could feel

00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:34.039
that it had attached itself to me it was very

00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:38.050
strong but That yet at that time there was all

00:39:38.050 --> 00:39:42.469
of my senses were heightened You know my intuition

00:39:42.469 --> 00:39:49.510
my connection with nature the the the what I

00:39:49.510 --> 00:39:54.690
call the astral projections the clairvoyance

00:39:54.690 --> 00:39:58.650
the looking into people's eyes and seeing their

00:39:58.650 --> 00:40:03.139
their spirit their their then seeing their halo

00:40:03.139 --> 00:40:08.360
or their aura around them um Things like everything

00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.739
had just heightened at that point so I was hearing

00:40:11.739 --> 00:40:17.880
this voice very you know very clearly and It

00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.800
wasn't until six months after Me coming back

00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.579
that I asked it its name. I didn't even know

00:40:24.579 --> 00:40:27.599
I could I didn't know it had a name I did so

00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:31.269
when I asked it and this is after I had began

00:40:31.269 --> 00:40:35.210
this deep meditations, these deep meditations

00:40:35.210 --> 00:40:43.809
that helped me go back to what I call the second

00:40:43.809 --> 00:40:48.949
heaven in the spirit. And so these deep meditations

00:40:48.949 --> 00:40:54.690
led me to hone these gifts that I was given as

00:40:54.690 --> 00:40:58.340
well. And so it was six months later that Metatron

00:40:58.340 --> 00:41:01.059
revealed itself to me. So we're still in, you

00:41:01.059 --> 00:41:04.599
know, 2013 at this time. And Metatron revealed

00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.820
itself to me. And yet he tells me, don't tell

00:41:07.820 --> 00:41:10.039
nobody. There's a lot of things that happened

00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.739
that were Metatron told me don't tell anybody.

00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:21.559
And it was only until 2017 that I was given permission

00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:27.190
to speak on this. Metatron is the name your family

00:41:27.190 --> 00:41:30.969
react to all of this stuff. Oh my goodness. Um

00:41:30.969 --> 00:41:34.829
You know, I have a huge family in this part of

00:41:34.829 --> 00:41:39.170
the world My father had 15 brothers and sisters,

00:41:39.170 --> 00:41:44.050
you know Cousins big a bunch of cousins. I grew

00:41:44.050 --> 00:41:48.190
up like brother cousins sister cousins Big family

00:41:48.190 --> 00:41:51.409
and pretty much all of them. Just stop messing

00:41:51.409 --> 00:41:55.489
with me You know that pretty much but it was

00:41:55.489 --> 00:41:58.050
not only that it wasn't and then the thing was

00:41:58.050 --> 00:42:01.150
I didn't even it wasn't like I was heartbroken

00:42:01.150 --> 00:42:07.849
or any even cared because that I had to get rid

00:42:07.849 --> 00:42:12.809
of all the negative in my life and right That

00:42:12.809 --> 00:42:15.929
that was a part of it, you know, and I had this

00:42:15.929 --> 00:42:19.550
inner thing about being very reclusive, you know,

00:42:19.590 --> 00:42:23.739
so After that I became very reclusive. I didn't

00:42:23.739 --> 00:42:26.980
come out. I was still hurt too I was still unable

00:42:26.980 --> 00:42:30.340
to work unable to do anything So I was in this

00:42:30.340 --> 00:42:34.960
my house that I had fortunately purchased Maybe

00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:37.599
a few couple years before that three or four

00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:39.860
years before that, you know So I was living in

00:42:39.860 --> 00:42:42.960
this this house this four -bedroom home by myself

00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.300
and I had just shared custody of my children

00:42:45.300 --> 00:42:48.150
That's the only people that I would see for a

00:42:48.150 --> 00:42:49.789
long time. Those are the only people who are

00:42:49.789 --> 00:42:53.409
my children. And my father, he'd come by all

00:42:53.409 --> 00:42:57.690
the time. And so, yeah, you lose a lot of friends

00:42:57.690 --> 00:43:01.190
when you walk this journey. A lot of people think

00:43:01.190 --> 00:43:04.769
you're crazy. You know, a lot of people, they

00:43:04.769 --> 00:43:07.030
don't look into it. And one of the things I was

00:43:07.030 --> 00:43:11.110
told, and I do it now, and sometimes I wish people

00:43:11.110 --> 00:43:13.630
had known this about, you know, when they dealt

00:43:13.630 --> 00:43:16.920
with me, but... I was told there on the other

00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:23.460
side that to to what was I I was told I lost

00:43:23.460 --> 00:43:29.360
my chain of thought told on the other side. Let's

00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.400
use another point to go back because I had a

00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:34.539
question about something that you mentioned when

00:43:34.539 --> 00:43:39.409
you were in the on the other side. That you were

00:43:39.409 --> 00:43:42.389
with the three beings and it appeared as though

00:43:42.389 --> 00:43:45.070
they were going to reincarnate you into another

00:43:45.070 --> 00:43:49.789
lifetime but you Pretty much from what I would

00:43:49.789 --> 00:43:51.730
I understand you had an attitude and you were

00:43:51.730 --> 00:43:54.570
like look you guys sit down here You didn't give

00:43:54.570 --> 00:43:56.630
me any instructions, but you're telling me I'm

00:43:56.630 --> 00:43:59.010
doing this and this and this wrong but you never

00:43:59.010 --> 00:44:02.670
told me how to do it and so I feel like do you

00:44:02.670 --> 00:44:05.050
feel like if you had not interjected and sort

00:44:05.050 --> 00:44:07.699
of challenged them that you Would not have gotten

00:44:07.699 --> 00:44:11.059
the opportunity to come back to your former life

00:44:11.059 --> 00:44:14.920
Yes, I honestly feel that I feel that with every

00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.659
every ounce of my being that I was on my way

00:44:17.659 --> 00:44:21.320
to reincarnate and get it right in the next life

00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:29.340
and Yeah, I believe that wholeheartedly Wow Yeah,

00:44:29.340 --> 00:44:32.239
that's really interesting because yeah from everything

00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:34.659
that I read in your account in your book and

00:44:34.659 --> 00:44:37.599
then what you're saying tonight You were they

00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.059
were downloading you with I guess all this hidden

00:44:40.059 --> 00:44:42.420
knowledge divine knowledge and they were I guess

00:44:42.420 --> 00:44:47.360
preparing you to enter another lifetime and for

00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:51.639
some reason they were Gracious, I guess to listen

00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:54.380
to you and to listen to your point of view and

00:44:54.380 --> 00:44:57.199
gave you an opportunity to go back to your former

00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.820
life using sort of your son's the love for your

00:45:00.820 --> 00:45:03.079
son as a conduit so I just thought it was a striking

00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:05.789
part of the story because Yeah, you're in that

00:45:05.789 --> 00:45:09.190
realm. I didn't I wouldn't think that anger or

00:45:09.190 --> 00:45:13.230
frustration would be able to be felt but apparently

00:45:13.230 --> 00:45:18.070
you had some some you fell away and Enough so

00:45:18.070 --> 00:45:21.849
to where you you know challenge those three beings

00:45:21.849 --> 00:45:25.010
which you know if I'm from my own point of view

00:45:25.010 --> 00:45:26.750
I'm like I would never do that. I would just

00:45:26.780 --> 00:45:29.639
You know i'm here. This is incredible. I just

00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.679
yeah, whatever you guys want to do We're just

00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:33.659
going to go with that, but I just thought that

00:45:33.659 --> 00:45:36.500
was a great part of the story and kind of changed

00:45:36.500 --> 00:45:39.699
The trajectory of what your outcome could have

00:45:39.699 --> 00:45:41.260
been because you could have been reincarnated

00:45:41.260 --> 00:45:44.900
in completely different life Uh had you not interjected

00:45:44.900 --> 00:45:48.659
at that point Yeah, yeah, and that I look at

00:45:48.659 --> 00:45:50.579
that all the time that you know that comes back

00:45:50.579 --> 00:45:53.199
because i'm gonna tell you man It's just uh the

00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:57.280
near -death thing. Um, it never leaves you Once

00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.920
you have it, you're like, it's like you, you.

00:46:01.019 --> 00:46:03.260
Well, when you're growing up and you're young

00:46:03.260 --> 00:46:06.239
and you're even in your 20s, you tend to forget

00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.320
about dying, you know, you forget about death.

00:46:09.619 --> 00:46:11.539
And, you know, I was invincible in my 20s. I

00:46:11.539 --> 00:46:14.420
jumped out of planes and things like that. You

00:46:14.420 --> 00:46:17.519
forget about dying. So, but after this near death

00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:19.900
experience, there's not one day that goes by

00:46:19.900 --> 00:46:26.500
that I forget that I have to meet with God. Not

00:46:26.500 --> 00:46:29.800
one day. So that's what compels me to do this.

00:46:30.500 --> 00:46:34.000
It changes you as far as that. You don't look

00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:39.420
at things the same. The people that you're around

00:46:39.420 --> 00:46:45.500
or that you associated with before this, none

00:46:45.500 --> 00:46:48.559
of them. I found everybody that's in my life

00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.639
now is a new friend except for my children. And

00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:54.639
and and my wife even my wife is new, you know

00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:57.019
She's a new friend as a matter of fact because

00:46:57.019 --> 00:46:59.139
you know, I didn't know her when they all this

00:46:59.139 --> 00:47:02.539
happened It sounds like you had a little lot

00:47:02.539 --> 00:47:05.380
of people go by the wayside just all because

00:47:05.380 --> 00:47:09.380
of this, you know new Mentality that you had

00:47:09.380 --> 00:47:11.880
I'm sure from your family's perspective a lot

00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:14.519
of people are probably saying Oh Jeff hasn't

00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.099
been right since he got out of the military.

00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:21.250
I'm sure I'm sure Yeah, they say that. They say

00:47:21.250 --> 00:47:24.329
that too. Yeah, they say that. Yeah, from my

00:47:24.329 --> 00:47:26.590
family's perspective, you know, they all love

00:47:26.590 --> 00:47:29.329
me, and when I go around, it's always love. Yet

00:47:29.329 --> 00:47:34.150
they do things that aren't conducive with the

00:47:34.150 --> 00:47:37.389
lifestyle that I live. So, you know, it's kind

00:47:37.389 --> 00:47:39.449
of like the church, you know. Church folks don't

00:47:39.449 --> 00:47:41.670
hang out with the back sliders, you know, in

00:47:41.670 --> 00:47:49.059
the center. Right on the church, folks. So yeah,

00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:51.400
it's like you tell that part of the story because

00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:53.739
I think that's a critical part of the story where

00:47:53.739 --> 00:47:58.039
There's an incident with your nephew and oh,

00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.739
yes. Yeah. Yes tell that part so this part of

00:48:01.739 --> 00:48:05.820
the story This now this was this is years of

00:48:05.820 --> 00:48:08.619
let's see twenty sixteen is when this happened

00:48:08.619 --> 00:48:11.579
and uh... the end of twenty sixteen so i'm three

00:48:11.579 --> 00:48:14.739
years into this you know three years into meditating

00:48:14.739 --> 00:48:17.539
every day change my dot change everything as

00:48:17.539 --> 00:48:19.920
a matter of fact you know change my diet changed

00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.380
everything about the way i live the way i speak

00:48:22.380 --> 00:48:27.119
com that more or less uh... commanding life then

00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:30.480
just living bad and at this time you know my

00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.500
brother uh... he my brothers love me so if i

00:48:34.500 --> 00:48:37.059
tell them something and it's from the the bottom

00:48:37.059 --> 00:48:39.400
of my heart, they believe it is true, you know,

00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:41.539
even though they can't see it. They're like,

00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:43.820
well, if you believe it, I believe it. You know,

00:48:43.820 --> 00:48:46.619
if you say it happened to you. So by this time,

00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:49.800
three years in, I've done so much work on helping

00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.820
people using this gift to help people. It was

00:48:52.820 --> 00:48:55.619
a Friday and my brother calls me and he's like,

00:48:55.739 --> 00:48:58.639
Jeff, I need your help. He said, you know, my

00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:01.519
son, they had this game that they played. He

00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:03.559
was a junior in high school at this time, I think.

00:49:03.820 --> 00:49:06.619
this game they played where every Friday they

00:49:06.619 --> 00:49:09.719
would grab still one or two of their parents

00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.800
medicines and they'd all gather up before school

00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:15.340
and Put them all together and then divvy them

00:49:15.340 --> 00:49:17.300
out and everybody just popped one That was the

00:49:17.300 --> 00:49:20.039
craziest thing, you know crazy type of stuff

00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.880
that they were doing in high school at that time

00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:27.800
and so My nephew he takes somebody's medicine

00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:32.309
and he overdoses and he's in a coma And my brother

00:49:32.309 --> 00:49:36.429
calls me and he said, Jeff, they said if he doesn't

00:49:36.429 --> 00:49:39.289
come out by Sunday, they're going to pull the

00:49:39.289 --> 00:49:42.250
plug. He's like, is there anything that you can

00:49:42.250 --> 00:49:46.230
do? And so at that moment, you know, my brother,

00:49:46.610 --> 00:49:49.690
I say, I'll see what I can do, you know, and

00:49:49.690 --> 00:49:52.110
that was a Friday. And the crazy thing I always

00:49:52.110 --> 00:49:54.690
tell the story is that I was helping so many

00:49:54.690 --> 00:49:58.429
people at that time and doing so much that it

00:49:58.429 --> 00:50:00.869
slipped my mind to meditate on him Friday night.

00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:03.960
my nephew's in a coma and it slipped my mind

00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:09.239
and then Saturday night comes and I'm like, I

00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.579
gotta go in and See what I could do. So I go

00:50:12.579 --> 00:50:15.320
into meditation and I asked metatron What can

00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:19.760
we do and metatron takes me in the spirit? Astral

00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:24.380
project to this realm where my nephew is at,

00:50:24.380 --> 00:50:28.940
you know my nephew He's there and it's like a

00:50:28.940 --> 00:50:32.110
playground setting or There's a bunch of kids

00:50:32.110 --> 00:50:35.610
there, you know, adolescents, children who are

00:50:35.610 --> 00:50:37.869
there. And what I've come to understand is that

00:50:37.869 --> 00:50:41.210
they were all in comas. Everybody there was in

00:50:41.210 --> 00:50:46.369
a coma. And Jesus Christ was there. And he was

00:50:46.369 --> 00:50:48.789
ministering and comforting all of these kids

00:50:48.789 --> 00:50:52.170
in a coma. So Meditron takes me to my nephew

00:50:52.170 --> 00:50:55.909
and we're off by ourselves and we begin to talk

00:50:55.909 --> 00:50:59.900
and I'm telling him, you know, come home. Your

00:50:59.900 --> 00:51:03.360
parents are missing you. You should come back.

00:51:04.340 --> 00:51:07.199
And I said, your dad's devastated, your sister's

00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.219
devastated, your stepmother's devastated. They

00:51:10.219 --> 00:51:15.300
want you. And he said to me, but they're mad

00:51:15.300 --> 00:51:19.219
at me. I don't want to come back. And at that

00:51:19.219 --> 00:51:24.059
time, Meditron is showing me my nephew's life.

00:51:24.710 --> 00:51:26.849
He's showing me that he's gonna be helping people

00:51:26.849 --> 00:51:29.130
and so I convey that to him I say you got to

00:51:29.130 --> 00:51:31.489
come back your life, man You're gonna be you're

00:51:31.489 --> 00:51:33.590
sent here to help people, you know, you're gonna

00:51:33.590 --> 00:51:35.610
be helping people You're gonna have a great life.

00:51:35.690 --> 00:51:39.110
Um, you you got to come back. And so he told

00:51:39.110 --> 00:51:40.929
me all right I'm coming back, but I didn't feel

00:51:40.929 --> 00:51:43.849
it because someone somehow in that room You can't

00:51:43.849 --> 00:51:45.989
you when you tell if you if you hear a lie, you

00:51:45.989 --> 00:51:49.210
can't it doesn't it doesn't resonate Like so

00:51:49.210 --> 00:51:51.570
I'm like no, you're not coming back. I say you

00:51:51.570 --> 00:51:54.800
got to convince me that you're coming back You

00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:59.280
know, and so we have this conversation and he

00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:02.099
says, okay, I'm coming back. And I felt like

00:52:02.099 --> 00:52:04.980
he was coming back at this point. And he said,

00:52:05.059 --> 00:52:07.360
but I just want to stay here a little while longer

00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.179
because the feeling that I feel here, this is

00:52:10.179 --> 00:52:11.920
the best feeling I ever felt. And I'm like, I

00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:14.139
know, isn't it? The great feeling. I said, so

00:52:14.139 --> 00:52:16.760
you're coming back. And he said, yeah. And with

00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:19.840
that Meditron whisked me back and I come back

00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:24.579
in my body. And as soon as I get back, It's early

00:52:24.579 --> 00:52:26.880
in the morning. I mean, it's like two in the

00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:29.260
morning, three in the morning. I get back, I

00:52:29.260 --> 00:52:31.820
text my brother everything that I said to his

00:52:31.820 --> 00:52:35.539
son and everything his son said to me. And I

00:52:35.539 --> 00:52:38.300
said, he'll be back. And then I fall asleep.

00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:45.360
Then I wake up to a text that Jeff, yes, confirmation.

00:52:46.780 --> 00:52:49.659
And at that time, I just let him spend time with

00:52:49.659 --> 00:52:52.989
his son, you know, and then we talk. his son

00:52:52.989 --> 00:52:56.090
from this is the story my brother tells me his

00:52:56.090 --> 00:52:59.489
son told him the same story that I texted him

00:52:59.489 --> 00:53:03.130
you know the same story the same thing and he's

00:53:03.130 --> 00:53:05.510
like you know he was there and he told me to

00:53:05.510 --> 00:53:08.489
come back and I told him no and then he was he

00:53:08.489 --> 00:53:11.010
told me that I'd be helping people and all of

00:53:11.010 --> 00:53:15.030
that so that was some powerful stuff that was

00:53:15.030 --> 00:53:19.289
my edification to go from believing to knowing

00:53:19.289 --> 00:53:26.239
yeah you know And today, yeah, and today, he's

00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:28.559
a firefighter in the city of Richmond, Virginia.

00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:32.059
So he's saving people's lives. He's doing what

00:53:32.059 --> 00:53:37.820
we spoke about in that conversation on the other

00:53:37.820 --> 00:53:41.860
side. And there has been many. If I was one of

00:53:41.860 --> 00:53:44.239
your family members, that would have made a believer

00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:47.199
out of me. Once I heard that account, and when

00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.500
your nephew woke up and corroborated the story,

00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:53.420
That would've made a believer out of me. I would've

00:53:53.420 --> 00:53:56.019
went from thinking you were crazy to, hey, maybe

00:53:56.019 --> 00:54:00.019
Jess got something here. Yeah, a lot of them

00:54:00.019 --> 00:54:01.940
say, you know, there was a lot of things that

00:54:01.940 --> 00:54:04.920
I told my family that they ignored and they watched

00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.119
it come to pass and then they come and say, you

00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.840
know, you were right. Like, you know, I wouldn't

00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:13.289
have told you if I thought I was wrong. And I

00:54:13.289 --> 00:54:15.469
only get this stuff from the Divine. It's only

00:54:15.469 --> 00:54:18.590
through meditation and staying close to God is

00:54:18.590 --> 00:54:21.050
where I get these things, you know. A lot of

00:54:21.050 --> 00:54:23.809
things like that. But yeah, a lot of them, a

00:54:23.809 --> 00:54:28.289
few of them call me God. A lot of my friends,

00:54:28.510 --> 00:54:31.090
they'll call me J .C. too, meaning Jesus Christ,

00:54:31.210 --> 00:54:34.130
the Second Coming, things like that. But I always

00:54:34.130 --> 00:54:36.329
tell them, you know, we all have this, and that's

00:54:36.329 --> 00:54:39.380
what they sent me back to teach. is that we all

00:54:39.380 --> 00:54:42.420
have these powers and all have these gifts. It's

00:54:42.420 --> 00:54:46.000
about how much you want to detach from what the

00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:49.440
world is telling you what to do. How much of

00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.219
that do you want to detach from that? Because

00:54:51.219 --> 00:54:55.219
if you detach from that and focus on your spirituality

00:54:55.219 --> 00:55:01.500
and communicating with the Creator, you will

00:55:01.500 --> 00:55:04.260
see all of these gifts come to fruition. You'll

00:55:04.260 --> 00:55:07.239
see them happen in your lives. I teach people

00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.900
this but it like it takes it takes some work,

00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:15.039
you know, it takes some some some discipline

00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:22.219
and it takes It takes some some discipline and

00:55:22.219 --> 00:55:25.000
you got to love yourself you got to love the

00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:31.099
world you have to love the Creator While you

00:55:31.099 --> 00:55:33.820
are I grew up Jehovah's Witness so, you know,

00:55:33.820 --> 00:55:38.239
I think it's a remarkable that I I am open to

00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:41.920
hearing and believing in any of this stuff. And

00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:44.860
I understand that not everybody is open to the

00:55:44.860 --> 00:55:49.219
idea of reincarnation and life after death and

00:55:49.219 --> 00:55:52.460
near death and out of body experiences. I know

00:55:52.460 --> 00:55:55.420
it's not for everyone, but I do believe that

00:55:55.420 --> 00:55:59.099
there are certain people that I think there comes

00:55:59.099 --> 00:56:01.360
a time in your life, maybe it's everyone or maybe

00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:03.039
it's select people, I don't know, but I feel

00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:04.880
there's a point for some people where you start

00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:08.809
to challenge what you've been taught. And not

00:56:08.809 --> 00:56:11.610
so much from a standpoint of unbelief, Jeff.

00:56:11.710 --> 00:56:15.389
I'm talking more so like a general curiosity

00:56:15.389 --> 00:56:19.869
as to, is there more to this? Or is there a higher

00:56:19.869 --> 00:56:23.429
level of understanding that can be ascertained?

00:56:23.449 --> 00:56:29.030
So more from that standpoint. So I think that's

00:56:29.030 --> 00:56:33.070
what's going on with me. It's not that I disbelieve

00:56:33.070 --> 00:56:36.889
what I grew up believing. believe in Jehovah

00:56:36.889 --> 00:56:39.429
and Jesus Christ and I pray in the name of Jesus,

00:56:39.530 --> 00:56:41.449
all that stuff, none of that has been lost. I

00:56:41.449 --> 00:56:44.030
don't think it ever be lost. But what I have

00:56:44.030 --> 00:56:47.630
seemed to have lost is this concept of religion.

00:56:48.750 --> 00:56:53.230
I believe it's a man -made distortion of the

00:56:53.230 --> 00:56:55.889
universal concepts that come from God or the

00:56:55.889 --> 00:56:57.989
source or the divine or whatever people want

00:56:57.989 --> 00:57:01.170
to refer to it as. I believe that mankind and

00:57:01.170 --> 00:57:03.389
maybe this originated with you know, a darker

00:57:03.389 --> 00:57:05.829
energy, the devil or what have you, but I believe

00:57:05.829 --> 00:57:09.269
that they use religion to cause division here

00:57:09.269 --> 00:57:12.590
on earth and all sorts of chaos. And you know,

00:57:12.670 --> 00:57:14.670
use it as a way to manipulate us. And I think

00:57:14.670 --> 00:57:17.010
that's what that download of information that

00:57:17.010 --> 00:57:20.510
you were getting when you were in that realm,

00:57:20.829 --> 00:57:23.429
they were trying to reveal to you hidden knowledge

00:57:23.429 --> 00:57:26.289
and say, hey, you guys, everything is not what

00:57:26.289 --> 00:57:28.190
it seems there, you're not being told the truth,

00:57:28.230 --> 00:57:30.449
you're not being presented all the information,

00:57:30.469 --> 00:57:32.929
so I think there was an uncovering of your eyes,

00:57:33.190 --> 00:57:35.550
so to speak, and that was part of your ministry

00:57:35.550 --> 00:57:38.630
that you were sent back with to share with those

00:57:38.630 --> 00:57:40.610
who are, you know, having the ear to hear and

00:57:40.610 --> 00:57:43.670
are open -minded about it. Would you agree? Yes,

00:57:43.670 --> 00:57:50.269
I would agree wholeheartedly that we are definitely,

00:57:50.449 --> 00:57:53.150
that was one of the things, you know, we are

00:57:53.150 --> 00:57:57.309
definitely Being manipulated into looking seeing

00:57:57.309 --> 00:58:00.650
things differently, you know one of the things

00:58:00.650 --> 00:58:04.269
that When I came to a conclusion after I studied

00:58:04.269 --> 00:58:07.309
all these things and and you know years of studying

00:58:07.309 --> 00:58:12.710
things I come to the conclusion that This is

00:58:12.710 --> 00:58:15.849
it's all a facade and everything we were taught

00:58:15.849 --> 00:58:19.769
there. I don't nothing we were taught is the

00:58:19.769 --> 00:58:23.719
truth It's like total manipulation the whole

00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:27.099
way and and it's only when you when you wake

00:58:27.099 --> 00:58:31.280
up and see you can you see it, you know, and

00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:35.719
You know, um, I always I always uh when I when

00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.539
I speak of these things I use a doctor I mean

00:58:38.539 --> 00:58:42.559
a Reverend Ike reference I was there too. I had

00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:46.079
the blinders on and I saw what you're seeing

00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:51.119
right now Yet if you just take a moment brief

00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:54.980
second to question what you are seeing and and

00:58:54.980 --> 00:58:57.760
go with your senses and what's inside of you

00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.340
you'll see the truth you know and and that's

00:59:01.340 --> 00:59:05.900
where what would that's what leads me to to continue

00:59:05.900 --> 00:59:09.500
to seek the truth and to continue to in my work

00:59:09.500 --> 00:59:14.760
to what I call wake people up you know right

00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:17.199
did you ever get tired of telling this story

00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:20.260
or is it It's more like a ministry to you and

00:59:20.260 --> 00:59:24.119
you get energized from it. I do. I get energized

00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:27.679
from telling the story. I tell it so much, you

00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:32.659
know. It can be mundane to the person who's saying

00:59:32.659 --> 00:59:36.820
it, you know. Yet when I see or feel the energy

00:59:36.820 --> 00:59:39.119
of someone when I tell it to them for the first

00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:42.480
time, I realize that, you know, it's not mundane,

00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:44.739
Jeff. You know, you're just you're just doing

00:59:44.739 --> 00:59:48.719
it day to day. So it gets it gets a little boring

00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:53.179
to tell the story. Yet this whole thing has changed

00:59:53.179 --> 00:59:57.179
every aspect, the scope of my life, you know.

00:59:57.300 --> 01:00:01.260
So I love telling the story. And in the beginning,

01:00:01.260 --> 01:00:04.440
you know, you couldn't get me to stop telling

01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:08.500
the story. And hours, hours go by so quickly

01:00:08.500 --> 01:00:11.179
when we're speaking, when I'm speaking, you know

01:00:11.179 --> 01:00:16.679
this. Right. So they taught me things from the

01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:20.920
aspect of naming my child. I have a child since

01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:24.260
then, but they taught me that what I name my

01:00:24.260 --> 01:00:27.960
child is what I'll be calling them. So name it

01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:30.300
something that means something that's going to

01:00:30.300 --> 01:00:38.500
uplift them. Just that alone. Naming your child,

01:00:38.619 --> 01:00:40.760
the way you speak, the way we speak, they taught

01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:47.210
me how to speak without negatives towards myself.

01:00:47.650 --> 01:00:50.449
Never speak any negative towards myself, you

01:00:50.449 --> 01:00:54.949
know? True. Never speak in the negative when

01:00:54.949 --> 01:00:58.730
you want a thing from the universe, God. Never

01:00:58.730 --> 01:01:02.969
ask God to give you, to help you not do a thing,

01:01:02.969 --> 01:01:04.949
you know? Don't let me get into an accident.

01:01:05.150 --> 01:01:08.269
Never ask things like that. Don't even bring

01:01:08.269 --> 01:01:12.260
them into The realm this realm don't even speak

01:01:12.260 --> 01:01:16.840
it into this realm, you know as for for I like

01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:19.579
the the Christians say traveling mercies or the

01:01:19.579 --> 01:01:23.280
way I do it is I visualize Visualization is the

01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:25.360
imagination is the most powerful thing we have

01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.179
here is the most powerful tool that the creator

01:01:28.179 --> 01:01:30.760
gave us because with this imagination we can

01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:34.659
imagine a Thing and we can bring it into existence

01:01:34.659 --> 01:01:37.380
here. And that's what I do. This is what I teach

01:01:37.380 --> 01:01:41.199
people to do how to use their imagination to

01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:45.280
visualize what they want here. You know, we can

01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:49.519
use the Christian scripture as above whatever

01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:51.619
Jesus said, whatsoever you ask in heaven that

01:01:51.619 --> 01:01:54.440
shall be given to you here on earth. Well, the

01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:57.199
way I interpret that is interpretate interpret

01:01:57.199 --> 01:02:01.579
that is When I go to work the placement meditation

01:02:01.579 --> 01:02:04.519
that is the second heaven, you know what I call

01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:07.219
the second heaven so when I ask when I'm in meditation

01:02:07.219 --> 01:02:11.300
I visualize I ask for what I want there and Then

01:02:11.300 --> 01:02:14.539
I know once I visualize it and ask for it there

01:02:14.539 --> 01:02:17.179
It shall be given to me here in this realm in

01:02:17.179 --> 01:02:21.199
the material, you know, um every every aspect

01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:25.300
of my life has has it from that day the learning

01:02:25.300 --> 01:02:28.840
from learning that to this is is about Asking

01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:31.420
in the spirit and watching it materialize here

01:02:31.420 --> 01:02:34.659
on earth and once you realize that that's how

01:02:34.659 --> 01:02:37.159
it work It's not a begging. There's no begging

01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:41.760
or pleading with God. He gave us this power to

01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:45.820
man things into our lives And so that's the way

01:02:45.820 --> 01:02:47.820
I use it. That's the way I teach people to use

01:02:47.820 --> 01:02:52.360
it. You can ask you can ask There's many many

01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:54.280
different ways and that's one thing. I always

01:02:54.280 --> 01:03:00.090
say too is there are many Call them amulets That

01:03:00.090 --> 01:03:02.789
you can use in this realm. There's many things

01:03:02.789 --> 01:03:04.989
you can use in this realm to achieve what you

01:03:04.989 --> 01:03:08.829
want You know, they'll call it I don't deal with

01:03:08.829 --> 01:03:12.530
any of the dark magic or anything dark You know

01:03:12.530 --> 01:03:15.449
because that which I come to understand is these

01:03:15.449 --> 01:03:18.190
things are real there's dark forces and in this

01:03:18.190 --> 01:03:21.690
world are real and That you can conjure them

01:03:21.690 --> 01:03:25.130
and you have no control over them. Yes, and I

01:03:25.130 --> 01:03:27.980
was gonna mention that to you because And I don't

01:03:27.980 --> 01:03:31.340
know, but I'm not a big fan of the whole tarot

01:03:31.340 --> 01:03:34.900
card type thing, anything dealing with the cold

01:03:34.900 --> 01:03:38.659
and magic. And I'm just, you know, it does not

01:03:38.659 --> 01:03:40.800
feel right to me. I feel like that's a different

01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:44.539
type of energy. And, you know, that's when you

01:03:44.539 --> 01:03:46.699
get into the whole conjuring things like you

01:03:46.699 --> 01:03:49.280
were talking about. And just like you can conjure

01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.199
good energy, good spirits, I think there's the

01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:54.079
other side, too, that you can conjure up. So

01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:55.639
you have to be really careful with that stuff,

01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:58.139
with these tarot cards and these. And I see a

01:03:58.139 --> 01:04:02.099
lot of people doing that online now. And I don't

01:04:02.099 --> 01:04:05.699
think a lot of them realize that they're practicing

01:04:05.699 --> 01:04:09.440
in the occult. And they can attach themselves

01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:11.860
or become attached to negative entities that

01:04:11.860 --> 01:04:16.119
may not be so easy to get rid of. Yes, and in

01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:18.539
my teaching so I had you know I would have these

01:04:18.539 --> 01:04:20.880
on -the -fly teachings in my meditations where

01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:23.480
metatron would take me in the spirit to the second

01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:26.599
heaven and he would put me and I'd be around

01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:32.420
total a number of dark beings and this was my

01:04:32.420 --> 01:04:36.000
first one of my first lessons and he said now

01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:41.000
None of these will touch you and then we walked

01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:43.159
through him and he said that's because you have

01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:47.269
the light of love in your heart. You have to

01:04:47.269 --> 01:04:49.449
keep the light. When you dabble in this, when

01:04:49.449 --> 01:04:52.190
you come to this second heaven, make sure you

01:04:52.190 --> 01:04:55.369
have the love of God in your heart, the love

01:04:55.369 --> 01:04:58.590
for everything in your heart. It said because

01:04:58.590 --> 01:05:01.869
that is the light. These are dark beings. They

01:05:01.869 --> 01:05:05.849
cannot be, they cannot touch the light. They

01:05:05.849 --> 01:05:08.369
cannot come to the light. So if you have that

01:05:08.369 --> 01:05:11.260
light, which is love, your heart when you come

01:05:11.260 --> 01:05:13.960
to this room none of them can touch you and they

01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:18.519
will all bow and shy away from you because you

01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:20.500
they see the light that's in you and this is

01:05:20.500 --> 01:05:23.920
how I traversed the second heaven and it's not

01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:29.480
through Any tarot cards or magic? It's just having

01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:32.940
the love of God in your heart Loving God and

01:05:32.940 --> 01:05:35.099
everything it told you because God is everything

01:05:35.099 --> 01:05:37.980
so you have to love everything you know if you're

01:05:37.980 --> 01:05:41.389
going to do these things, but That's what keeps

01:05:41.389 --> 01:05:43.730
the darkness away, that love that you have. And

01:05:43.730 --> 01:05:47.329
that's one of those key tenets that I have noticed

01:05:47.329 --> 01:05:51.170
that's a common thread in all of these NDE accounts

01:05:51.170 --> 01:05:53.929
is that they come back with God is everything,

01:05:54.030 --> 01:05:57.949
God is everywhere, love everybody, love everything.

01:05:59.530 --> 01:06:02.409
And, you know, so some things are just common.

01:06:03.170 --> 01:06:05.889
And even with religion, if you look at religion,

01:06:06.510 --> 01:06:09.289
you would think a lot of that will come from

01:06:09.289 --> 01:06:12.750
that. But I've seen too many times, even in the

01:06:12.750 --> 01:06:16.050
faith that I grew up with, where religion has

01:06:16.050 --> 01:06:20.610
made people feel bad about themselves or has

01:06:20.610 --> 01:06:24.730
caused distances in families and relationships

01:06:24.730 --> 01:06:27.670
and have caused division. That's not of God.

01:06:27.750 --> 01:06:30.170
When you're talking about division and you're

01:06:30.170 --> 01:06:32.530
feeling bad about yourself and you're feeling,

01:06:32.530 --> 01:06:37.659
you know, convicted or What's the word I'm looking

01:06:37.659 --> 01:06:40.280
for this is not convicted but it is if you're

01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:43.199
feeling negative thoughts towards yourself or

01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:46.860
I'm not This enough or that enough. Uh -huh.

01:06:46.860 --> 01:06:50.880
Yeah. Yeah None of that's from God. Yeah Self

01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:52.780
-loathing that was one of the first things that

01:06:52.780 --> 01:06:55.820
I had to do and it said you have to know who

01:06:55.820 --> 01:06:58.019
you are That's what they told me and what did

01:06:58.019 --> 01:07:01.239
that mean man? I had to find out who I was but

01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:06.059
what what I can say is Knowing who you are means

01:07:06.059 --> 01:07:09.039
that you love yourself, you know, knowing that

01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:14.820
you are a piece, a prime piece of the Infinite

01:07:14.820 --> 01:07:19.699
Creator and that's who you are. The Christians

01:07:19.699 --> 01:07:22.579
will call you a priestly, you know, you're the

01:07:22.579 --> 01:07:24.940
priest, the sons of God. This is who we are.

01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:30.780
We are actually a portion, a portion of the spirit

01:07:30.780 --> 01:07:34.000
of this Infinite Creator. You know, and our body

01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:37.539
houses that portion, which we'll call our soul,

01:07:37.900 --> 01:07:42.400
and we are a divine spark of the Creator. And

01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:45.659
when you realize that, and you know that, and

01:07:45.659 --> 01:07:49.179
that you have every power afforded to you in

01:07:49.179 --> 01:07:53.639
this realm that the Creator has, it empowers

01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:57.159
you. It makes you... gives you more self -esteem

01:07:57.159 --> 01:08:00.099
when you realize it, you know. Because we talk

01:08:00.099 --> 01:08:02.239
about this all the time, you know. You've probably

01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:04.260
heard the cliche, you know, God is everything,

01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:07.440
God is love, you know, God's in everything. Yet,

01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:12.119
when you really contemplate it and get to know

01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:15.260
this thing, that's when it all, it opens up for

01:08:15.260 --> 01:08:18.680
you and you can start creating whatever you want.

01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:21.460
We're just, we're miniature creators of the Creator.

01:08:22.379 --> 01:08:25.699
Right, I think it's all in that one scripture,

01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:28.220
and I don't know what the exact scripture is,

01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:32.899
but it basically says, be still and know I am

01:08:32.899 --> 01:08:36.239
God. Yes, the whole thing right there, and he's

01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:39.779
saying, I am God, and he's also talking about

01:08:39.779 --> 01:08:43.859
yourself. Yes! I don't know why people don't

01:08:43.859 --> 01:08:46.279
understand that, be still, that's telling you

01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:49.140
to meditate, to center yourself. Meditate, yep.

01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:54.710
Be still and know. I am God. That He is God,

01:08:54.909 --> 01:08:58.850
that you in yourself are God. Yes. Yes. People

01:08:58.850 --> 01:09:00.390
don't understand it, and I didn't understand

01:09:00.390 --> 01:09:02.710
it for the longest, so I'm not chastising, but

01:09:02.710 --> 01:09:07.270
if you just meditate on that scripture, it will

01:09:07.270 --> 01:09:10.350
get you to where you need to be mentally to start

01:09:10.350 --> 01:09:13.810
opening yourself to a greater awareness of who

01:09:13.810 --> 01:09:16.529
you are, what you are, the power that you have.

01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:19.819
That's why I'm so energized about this topic

01:09:19.819 --> 01:09:23.680
and NDE. It's not this spooky, mystical, weird

01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:26.119
thing and something that you need to be afraid

01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:31.079
of and, oh, that's not in my Bible. It's just

01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:36.720
so much to it. I'm trying to get people to be

01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:39.909
more open to at least... hearing about it and

01:09:39.909 --> 01:09:42.630
seeing what parts of it resonate with you. Maybe

01:09:42.630 --> 01:09:45.529
listen to a few more NDE accounts and see what

01:09:45.529 --> 01:09:48.470
you come away with. Notice those common threads

01:09:48.470 --> 01:09:51.649
that are in these stories. Every NDE story that

01:09:51.649 --> 01:09:54.909
I've heard, they all come back with these same

01:09:54.909 --> 01:09:59.270
things. God is love. Love is everywhere. Love

01:09:59.270 --> 01:10:02.329
is in everything. You don't get that from religion.

01:10:03.090 --> 01:10:05.119
You don't. No, you don't. You should do this.

01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:07.180
You should do that. You're bad if you don't do

01:10:07.180 --> 01:10:10.119
this. You're good if you do this. And the division

01:10:10.119 --> 01:10:12.300
in my religion is better than yours and all that.

01:10:12.619 --> 01:10:15.680
Can't you see how manmade and just crappy that

01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:19.560
is? That's not of God. Yeah. Yeah. And when I

01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:21.619
look at when I look at the Christian religion,

01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:25.220
I look at it and I see that there were humans

01:10:25.220 --> 01:10:30.449
who started out wanting to do right by God. And

01:10:30.449 --> 01:10:33.869
then this faith was hijacked by those who wanted

01:10:33.869 --> 01:10:37.970
to seize power and control over people. You know,

01:10:37.970 --> 01:10:41.770
when I studied how Christianity came along and

01:10:41.770 --> 01:10:44.569
how, you know, when the emperors got a hold of

01:10:44.569 --> 01:10:48.329
it and did what they did to it. And that right

01:10:48.329 --> 01:10:55.350
there is where, you know, I draw the line with

01:10:55.350 --> 01:10:58.130
religion where I say, okay, I got to part from

01:10:58.130 --> 01:11:02.890
here because now You've interjected a lot of

01:11:02.890 --> 01:11:09.310
mankind's, how can I say, do gooding that really

01:11:09.310 --> 01:11:14.350
wasn't necessary, you know. I even look at when,

01:11:15.390 --> 01:11:17.750
by the time Jesus came on the scene, there was

01:11:17.750 --> 01:11:20.189
10 commandments when Moses started. By the time

01:11:20.189 --> 01:11:23.649
Jesus came on, it was like 250 -something commandments.

01:11:25.210 --> 01:11:27.289
And he's like, look, y 'all can't even keep your

01:11:27.289 --> 01:11:33.409
own laws. You know, so basically man has a way

01:11:33.409 --> 01:11:37.189
of hijacking the goodness of God, you know, and

01:11:37.189 --> 01:11:39.710
if we just keep it simple and just keep our connection

01:11:39.710 --> 01:11:43.250
with it, you know, it guides us in all truth.

01:11:43.449 --> 01:11:47.149
It'll tell you anything you want to know. It'll

01:11:47.149 --> 01:11:49.890
slay your enemies. I've seen that many times

01:11:49.890 --> 01:11:52.350
in this journey, people who would call themselves

01:11:52.350 --> 01:11:55.390
my enemy and how... they've either been taken

01:11:55.390 --> 01:11:59.050
out of this realm or their lives aren't doing

01:11:59.050 --> 01:12:04.229
the way that they wish that they would. This

01:12:04.229 --> 01:12:06.649
thing, it protects you, it's a protector, it's

01:12:06.649 --> 01:12:10.850
a comforter. It's like I could be in any part

01:12:10.850 --> 01:12:18.029
of the world by myself and knowing that I'm protected

01:12:18.029 --> 01:12:20.680
by the hand of the Almighty and that this this

01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:23.880
guardian angel is right here with me, you know.

01:12:24.380 --> 01:12:27.380
There's a scripture in the Bible that says, lo,

01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:32.079
I am with you always, you know. Even I'm with

01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:36.439
you always, and I tend to say it. I say it a

01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:41.720
lot, and I reflect on it a lot, and I'll be doing

01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:44.460
something over these past 12 years, and I'm out

01:12:44.460 --> 01:12:46.619
of trying to hear, and he'll say, I'm always

01:12:46.619 --> 01:12:49.310
with you. And when you think I'm not with you,

01:12:49.310 --> 01:12:52.369
I'm right here You know, I was just about to

01:12:52.369 --> 01:12:54.590
ask you. Do you still communicate with metatron?

01:12:55.590 --> 01:12:59.130
Oh Every day every day. I still go into deep

01:12:59.130 --> 01:13:02.369
meditation. I don't do anything without Meditating

01:13:02.369 --> 01:13:05.430
on it first arm and listening to metatron even

01:13:05.430 --> 01:13:08.109
the book the book there You know the book how

01:13:08.109 --> 01:13:11.369
it came in the past was it was divine, you know

01:13:13.370 --> 01:13:17.090
The publisher who came to me, you know, and said

01:13:17.090 --> 01:13:19.670
that he'd been, you know, I don't know if you

01:13:19.670 --> 01:13:21.850
know this story, but I'm going to tell this story

01:13:21.850 --> 01:13:24.829
because it's all divinely guided. You know, the

01:13:24.829 --> 01:13:27.090
publisher comes, he gets a hold of me, finds

01:13:27.090 --> 01:13:29.270
me and he said, I've been looking, you know,

01:13:29.329 --> 01:13:31.289
I started this publishing company some years

01:13:31.289 --> 01:13:34.430
ago and I've had a successful publishing company.

01:13:34.789 --> 01:13:36.510
One of the things that happened to me in the

01:13:36.510 --> 01:13:38.590
beginning of this publish when I started this

01:13:38.590 --> 01:13:41.409
company is that I made a promise to God that

01:13:41.409 --> 01:13:45.329
I would dedicate my business to it to him and

01:13:45.329 --> 01:13:50.649
He told me he told me that He was gonna bless

01:13:50.649 --> 01:13:53.250
my business yet and somewhere in that career

01:13:53.250 --> 01:13:56.310
in this thing You have to write a book for somebody

01:13:56.310 --> 01:14:00.149
for free Well some years later after this publishing

01:14:00.149 --> 01:14:02.729
company and I do an interview with on the Jeff

01:14:02.729 --> 01:14:05.689
Marshall I believe he contacts me and he says

01:14:05.689 --> 01:14:10.020
I've been looking For years for the person I

01:14:10.020 --> 01:14:11.920
was going to write this book for free for and

01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:16.600
it's you and so that's how it started and then

01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:20.560
I Met I said, you know, I appreciate your offer.

01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:24.680
I got to meditate on it And so I go and meditate

01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:26.819
and Metatron tells me you know what give them

01:14:26.819 --> 01:14:31.220
50 % of everything so, you know 50 % of everything

01:14:31.220 --> 01:14:35.199
and With that I went back with my offer the next

01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:38.390
day. I told him yep. I'm willing to do it but

01:14:38.390 --> 01:14:41.270
I'm not gonna do it unless you get 50 % of everything.

01:14:41.590 --> 01:14:45.649
With that, he gave me an agent, a booking agent

01:14:45.649 --> 01:14:48.850
and a manager, and he said, we're gonna push

01:14:48.850 --> 01:14:52.550
this thing all over the world. You know, through

01:14:52.550 --> 01:14:56.949
interviews, YouTube interviews and Skype, on

01:14:56.949 --> 01:14:59.649
Skype and Zoom. And we've been doing that for

01:14:59.649 --> 01:15:01.770
a year and a half, and the response has been

01:15:01.770 --> 01:15:06.529
overwhelming. But it was only that, it was only

01:15:06.529 --> 01:15:11.229
that Listen to Metatron that I got this because

01:15:11.229 --> 01:15:13.710
it was it was his offer was I'm gonna just write

01:15:13.710 --> 01:15:15.770
the book for you You do everything else, you

01:15:15.770 --> 01:15:17.909
know, you push it promoted whatever, you know,

01:15:17.909 --> 01:15:20.710
and I know people who write books It's hard to

01:15:20.710 --> 01:15:23.930
push and promote a book, you know and so he put

01:15:23.930 --> 01:15:29.090
if he he took on that that for the sake of the

01:15:29.090 --> 01:15:32.210
book or his stake in it now, he's got a 50 %

01:15:32.210 --> 01:15:35.550
stake in it, which I'm happy with I don't mind

01:15:35.550 --> 01:15:39.029
because One thing I've learned is these material

01:15:39.029 --> 01:15:42.069
things aren't where it's at, man. The moment

01:15:42.069 --> 01:15:44.890
I died, all of the material things I had meant

01:15:44.890 --> 01:15:48.590
nothing. Right. Nothing. They meant nothing.

01:15:49.449 --> 01:15:52.510
And the only reason I have a material thing is

01:15:52.510 --> 01:15:55.949
because in this life that I would say a luxury

01:15:55.949 --> 01:15:59.210
or anything is because in my own personal spirit,

01:15:59.970 --> 01:16:03.479
I particularly like that thing. There's no influencer

01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:06.159
from the outside world that tells me I need to

01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:08.500
drive a Mercedes or that I need to drive this

01:16:08.500 --> 01:16:11.079
or that I need to have that. Because what I've

01:16:11.079 --> 01:16:15.920
come to understand is that these things mean

01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:20.380
nothing. They're temporary and they're here more

01:16:20.380 --> 01:16:23.500
temporarily. We'll have them for a short amount

01:16:23.500 --> 01:16:26.539
of time. And that's it. There's no need to kill,

01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:29.420
steal, and hurt people over these material things

01:16:29.420 --> 01:16:31.880
in this world. But most people, a lot of people

01:16:31.880 --> 01:16:35.300
don't see that. And I'm fortunate and blessed

01:16:35.300 --> 01:16:39.199
to see those things. I used to be one of those

01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:42.659
people that were caught up in the whole materialistic

01:16:42.659 --> 01:16:44.819
side of things. And I'm glad I've been able to

01:16:44.819 --> 01:16:47.800
lose that over the years. None of that stuff

01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:52.079
matters. At this point in my life, I love peace.

01:16:52.659 --> 01:16:57.060
I love solitude and I love meditation. I'm a

01:16:57.060 --> 01:17:00.560
baby in meditation. I've only been doing it for

01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:04.720
maybe less than a year. And over the past, I'll

01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:07.640
say this year, I've started doing it maybe twice

01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:11.600
a day for 10 minutes early in the morning, 10

01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:15.380
minutes at night. And speaking of meditation,

01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:17.119
and I know we're going over time, we're going

01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:21.439
to wrap up shortly. But I heard that you... You

01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:23.819
mentioned in another podcast when I was preparing

01:17:23.819 --> 01:17:26.220
for this show, I think it was, was it Jeff Maura

01:17:26.220 --> 01:17:29.619
or something like that? Jeff Maura, yeah. Yes,

01:17:29.819 --> 01:17:33.439
yes. You talked about guided meditation. It was

01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:36.159
sort of your go -to practice. Yes, yes, yes.

01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:39.899
You touched on the DMT stuff and all of that,

01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:43.020
but you really spoke highly of the guided meditation.

01:17:43.279 --> 01:17:45.300
And I think there was, what was the guy's name?

01:17:45.460 --> 01:17:48.619
Was it Paul? Paul Santisi. Paul Santisi, yes.

01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:53.279
I tried his remove negative blocks guided meditation

01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:57.399
yesterday, and it was the most incredible experience.

01:17:57.539 --> 01:17:59.880
At first, I didn't think it was gonna work. But

01:17:59.880 --> 01:18:03.880
before I knew it, I was in this weird place.

01:18:06.140 --> 01:18:09.159
I knew where I was was in my subconscious mind,

01:18:09.180 --> 01:18:11.880
which I had never been able to touch or dabble

01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:15.220
in or experience. I could feel and sense everything

01:18:15.220 --> 01:18:20.489
on the outside of my body. I was in my subconscious

01:18:20.489 --> 01:18:24.850
mind. And it was such a weird and eerie feeling,

01:18:24.869 --> 01:18:28.649
but it also felt great. I saw all types of visions

01:18:28.649 --> 01:18:32.810
and sensations and symbols. And I was getting

01:18:32.810 --> 01:18:35.069
a little afraid because I was like, how do I

01:18:35.069 --> 01:18:37.890
get out of this? Is it going to guide me out

01:18:37.890 --> 01:18:40.189
of this state? It was almost like being in a

01:18:40.189 --> 01:18:45.270
trance. But it was the most wonderful experience.

01:18:45.489 --> 01:18:49.210
It felt like maybe 10 or 15 minutes, but if you

01:18:49.210 --> 01:18:51.489
know that particular meditation, it's over. It's

01:18:51.489 --> 01:18:54.369
almost an hour and a half long. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty

01:18:54.369 --> 01:18:57.470
long. I was in deep trance for over an hour.

01:18:57.470 --> 01:18:59.789
It felt like 10, 15 minutes. And it was just

01:18:59.789 --> 01:19:02.510
incredible. I was like, OK, now I see what Jeff

01:19:02.510 --> 01:19:05.770
is talking about. This is it, right? Yes. Yes.

01:19:05.770 --> 01:19:09.729
And here's the secret. When you're there, that's

01:19:09.729 --> 01:19:13.369
when you visualize what you want. See yourself

01:19:13.369 --> 01:19:16.699
having it. See yourself. Whatever it is that

01:19:16.699 --> 01:19:20.619
you want see yourself in your happy state of

01:19:20.619 --> 01:19:25.060
achieving it. So if it's a car See yourself in

01:19:25.060 --> 01:19:29.020
it With all of the luxuries that you that you

01:19:29.020 --> 01:19:31.899
want in it, you know the leather seats play with

01:19:31.899 --> 01:19:35.779
the radio, you know This is how you the best,

01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:39.340
you know your dream home The same way you go

01:19:39.340 --> 01:19:41.560
in and you do that, you know anything though,

01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:44.239
you know, you got you got a pressing business

01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.720
meeting You know, you got to interview with this

01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:50.460
guy named Dr. Jerry. You know, there's this renowned

01:19:50.460 --> 01:19:53.739
doctor and with the radio show, you know, you

01:19:53.739 --> 01:19:57.479
go in and you visualize it the way that you want

01:19:57.479 --> 01:19:59.739
it to come out. And then when you come out of

01:19:59.739 --> 01:20:03.420
it, leave it right there. Leave it there and

01:20:03.420 --> 01:20:07.500
just know that the universe, God, whatever you

01:20:07.500 --> 01:20:09.699
want to call it, is going to make it happen.

01:20:10.220 --> 01:20:13.810
This was the most profound thing. you know when

01:20:13.810 --> 01:20:16.970
it when I discovered meditation was the most

01:20:16.970 --> 01:20:20.350
profound thing was that I thought meditation

01:20:20.350 --> 01:20:22.930
just you know calm the mind and that's all you

01:20:22.930 --> 01:20:25.409
do you go any and that's a great thing to calm

01:20:25.409 --> 01:20:28.069
the mind to silence the mind to get rid of all

01:20:28.069 --> 01:20:30.510
the negative that you accumulated throughout

01:20:30.510 --> 01:20:33.890
the day you know or or to call into existence

01:20:33.890 --> 01:20:37.630
your day that's coming so yeah this but when

01:20:37.630 --> 01:20:41.550
I realized when I was shown that this is where

01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:45.779
you manifest what you want in your life as above

01:20:45.779 --> 01:20:48.520
so below whatsoever you ask in heaven it shall

01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:52.140
be given unto you you know that on earth and

01:20:52.140 --> 01:20:55.279
that's what it is right there and that yeah it's

01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:57.920
powerful stuff man i'm glad to hear that man

01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:01.300
you you you just raised my vibration in time

01:21:01.300 --> 01:21:04.260
oh man i was so excited to talk to you man the

01:21:04.260 --> 01:21:07.619
visual visualization stuff works i visualized

01:21:07.619 --> 01:21:10.619
our a conversation this morning about how this

01:21:10.619 --> 01:21:13.220
will go. I visualize us laughing and talking

01:21:13.220 --> 01:21:15.640
and just having a really good conversation and

01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:18.439
that's what came to pass. Visualization really

01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:22.479
does work. That's prayer. That's not to distract

01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:25.180
anyone from praying to God, but that's how you

01:21:25.180 --> 01:21:28.020
call into your life what you want to experience.

01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:33.659
That's how I pray. That's how I pray. And I still

01:21:33.659 --> 01:21:37.239
pray the traditional way, but I found that meditation

01:21:37.239 --> 01:21:40.500
helps to draw things because it clears your mind

01:21:40.500 --> 01:21:43.039
and you also get to visualize what you want,

01:21:43.220 --> 01:21:45.539
whether it's a vacation or, like you said, a

01:21:45.539 --> 01:21:49.720
car or just a certain set of circumstances or

01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:51.579
what have you, or doing well on an interview,

01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:54.119
just any number of things. You want to visualize

01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:56.640
that in your mind and picture it going the way

01:21:56.640 --> 01:22:02.060
you want it to go. Wow, this has been an enlightening

01:22:02.060 --> 01:22:03.819
show. I'm sorry we went over time, but thank

01:22:03.819 --> 01:22:05.420
you so much for being generous with your time

01:22:05.420 --> 01:22:08.960
with us. I've enjoyed it so much. I know our

01:22:08.960 --> 01:22:12.479
listeners have enjoyed it. And like I said, I

01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:14.479
truly appreciate you. Before we close out though,

01:22:14.739 --> 01:22:17.880
do you have any final words of wisdom for our

01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:23.939
listeners tonight? What I can say is that this

01:22:23.939 --> 01:22:30.880
story that I tell, it's my story. Everything

01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:37.500
in there is for everybody. So when I speak about

01:22:37.500 --> 01:22:39.920
these gifts that I have, these powers, how to

01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:43.859
manifest, how to meditate, how to walk in this

01:22:43.859 --> 01:22:47.699
life, it's for you. I'm speaking to your audience.

01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:51.300
It's for you. It is for you. It's for all of

01:22:51.300 --> 01:22:54.439
us. And that's one of the things that they showed

01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:58.720
me. And I was told to convey that everyone here

01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:04.520
is chosen. everyone. It's up to you to say, okay,

01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:08.380
I'm chosen and this is my purpose and I'm going

01:23:08.380 --> 01:23:12.560
for it. You know, everybody has this power. You

01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:16.340
just have to tap into it. It'll take some work

01:23:16.340 --> 01:23:20.359
and it's not work. It's more mental work than

01:23:20.359 --> 01:23:23.319
anything, you know, disciplining yourself to,

01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:26.619
to get in touch with that thing we call God and

01:23:26.619 --> 01:23:32.079
always, always, always. Give gratitude to God,

01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:36.979
the Creator, whatever you call it in your circle,

01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:43.699
the universe, God, the Creator. Always give gratitude

01:23:43.699 --> 01:23:47.899
and thankfulness to that thing we call God, and

01:23:47.899 --> 01:23:51.020
you can't go wrong, man. You pursue whatever

01:23:51.020 --> 01:23:58.729
you want. It's the key, man. It's the key. Well

01:23:58.729 --> 01:24:00.930
said. All right, everyone, that's our show for

01:24:00.930 --> 01:24:05.350
tonight. Huge thanks once again to Mr. Jeff Cleckley.

01:24:05.510 --> 01:24:08.489
If you'd like to dive deeper into his near -death

01:24:08.489 --> 01:24:11.289
experience, grab a copy of his book. It's called

01:24:11.289 --> 01:24:14.310
I Walk Amongst Gods, and it's available now on

01:24:14.310 --> 01:24:18.390
Amazon. Or you can visit his website, IWalkAmongstGods

01:24:18.390 --> 01:24:22.069
.com, and you'll get access to his guided meditations

01:24:22.069 --> 01:24:25.449
and information about upcoming retreats and other

01:24:25.449 --> 01:24:28.220
speaking engagements. As always, you can catch

01:24:28.220 --> 01:24:31.279
a replay of this episode on artistfirst .com

01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:34.300
or wherever you stream your favorite shows. Be

01:24:34.300 --> 01:24:37.560
sure to join me next Wednesday, June 18th at

01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:39.420
6 p .m. Eastern. It's going to be another live

01:24:39.420 --> 01:24:42.680
episode of the show. So thank you, guys. I'm

01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:45.600
your host, Andre Jerry. And until next time,

01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:49.020
stay grounded, stay growing. And if you do happen

01:24:49.020 --> 01:24:51.840
to find yourself walking amongst gods, just make

01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:54.380
sure you come back with a good story. All right.

01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:55.680
Good night, everybody. Take care.