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Welcome to live with Dr. Andre Jerry, your prime

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time destination for bold conversations. unfiltered

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truth and real life inspiration. I'm your host

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Dr. Andre Jerry coming to you live from the beautiful

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San Juan, Puerto Rico. So whether you're listening

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from across the street or across the globe, I

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want to thank you for being here tonight and

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spending a little time with me this Wednesday

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evening. Last show was a little bit intense.

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I got some of the feedback, but it was a great

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show, much needed. We're going to kind of take

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it easy this episode and have a little fun. How

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about that? Quick shout out to my cousins who

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are tuning in from Greenville, Georgia Harris,

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Jakari and Renata Hightower. I love you guys

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and thank you so much for all of your support.

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I really appreciate it You know Renata actually

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isn't a very common name You don't typically

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run into a lot of Renata's But I venture to say

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when you do they're they're gonna be very unique

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and kind -hearted people You know what I mean?

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And I'm not just talking about your one of the

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meal kind hearted. I'm talking about a unique

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sort of kind heartedness. I'm talking about the

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type of person who celebrates your success like

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it's their own. I think Renata's are the type

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of women who will not just call to check up on

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you. They will drive or fly to check up on you

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personally. And I think Renata's are big on family.

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and connections. They may not get all the support

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they need from everybody that they love, but

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they're going to make sure that everybody that

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they love feels supported and seen. And if they

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really love you, like if they really, really

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love you, if somebody F's with you, it's going

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to be hell to pay with a Renata. It just is.

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And from my experience, Renatas are kind of like

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that neutral member of the family who can pretty

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much stay out of all of the that divisiveness

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that can kind of creep into your family and all

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the family drama and politics, they know how

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to stay out of that mess. You know, we may not

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be all speaking to one another or have, you know,

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these little factions and cliques in the family,

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but the Renatas, they can kind of navigate around

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all of that and converse with everybody because

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they know how to stay out of the crap. You know,

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they're also very forgiving people and they're

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not big grudge holders I'm telling you if you

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have a Renata in your family or if you're friends

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with one I guarantee you everything that I'm

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saying about The Renata's I know apply to the

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Renata's that you know, I guarantee it. It's

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something about that name I don't know. I'm 46

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years old and I have never met a Renata that

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was a shitty person. It's just something about

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that name Cory's are pretty good people, too.

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You know, they typically don't bother anybody.

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Pam. You know, we all, everyone knows a Pam.

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Pams are typically good people. Now, I'll tell

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you one name that's a little different. Pat.

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I'm talking about if it's a male or a female.

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I don't care. If you're a Pat or you go by Pat,

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you probably are a trip. You probably are a trip.

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But anyway, so shout out to my cousin, Renata

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Hightower. Shout out to my other good friend,

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Renata Jordan, who is the reason why I'm on the

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air today. And shout out to all the other Renatas

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out there who may be listening. We love you.

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We appreciate you. All right. So I got some great

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feedback on the shows we did last month. We touched

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on toxic friendships. We talked about mental

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health. And we also talked about the road ahead

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for the class of 2025. And I actually received

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a ton of messages from recent grads who caught

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the playback of the episode we did about real

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talk for the class of 2025. And I'll tell you,

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a lot of them said it gave them the clarity and

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the encouragement that they didn't really even

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know they needed. So if you've got a graduate

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in your family or in your social circle, then

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send them the link to that show. Send them the

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link. Trust me, they'll probably hear something

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that could really help them to navigate this

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next chapter. And if you're looking for the perfect

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especially for someone just stepping into the

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And I wrote it for people who are in that in

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real world now. So check that out. It's on Amazon.

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All right, so now that we've shown some love

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to our grads, we're going to get into our show.

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The theme for tonight is random rants and real

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talk. So this is part three of our series where

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I basically just riff from topic to topic. It

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just depends on my mood and how many glasses

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of wine I've had. You know, speaking of alcohol,

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I'll tell you something. I've noticed that I

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have Cut back a lot lately, especially since

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I retired back in March and That actually has

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saved me a lot of money to be honest I didn't

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really realize how much money I spent on alcohol

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in a week It was substantial so that definitely

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played a part in my decision to cut back a little

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bit and I don't know, aside from saving money,

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that aspect of that, I also guess I wanted to

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just kind of prove to myself that I wasn't an

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alcoholic. And I'm not talking about like the

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textbook medical definition for alcohol, because

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that's some BS. I've never agreed with that.

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So according to the National Institute on Alcohol

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Abuse and alcoholism, you are considered a heavy

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drinker if you are a man who drinks more than

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four drinks per day or more than 14 drinks per

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week. Or if you're a woman who drinks more than

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three drinks per day or drinks more than seven

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drinks per week. And by the way, they consider

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a drink or a standard drink, one 12 ounce beer,

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one five ounce glass of wine, or just like one

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shot of liquor or something like that. So that's

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what they consider one drink. So for me, that's

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everybody who drinks. Unless you're talking about

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someone that's like the occasional drinker who

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only has like alcohol on special occasions or

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something like that. But unless I'm just a jaded

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drunk, I think four drinks per day, that sounds

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like a pretty good time for me. You know, in

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fact, I'm kind of pissed if it's just four. Obviously,

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I'm kidding. Or maybe I'm using humor to mask

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the truth, but you know, in the very worst case

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scenario, I would say I'm a very high functioning

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alcoholic. And what I mean by that is that regardless

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of how many drinks one may consider excessive,

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my alcohol consumption has never been a problem

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to the extent that it impeded my Upward trajectory

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or my aspirations or gotten away of me achieving

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any of the goals I set out for myself It's never

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been an issue in that regard and because I've

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always been pretty good at Self -correction,

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you know, like I'm not the guy you're gonna have

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to sit down and have an intervention with you

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know, I'm not that guy I've always Had a pretty

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keen awareness of myself in terms of my negative

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behaviors and being able to self correct before

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things got too out of hand. And I think for me,

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drinking had become more of a habit than it ever

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was like an addiction per se. Because it was

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just something I had become used to doing. To

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be honest with you, I've been drinking since

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I was 16. I thought about that too. My parents

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were very liberal. We had alcohol in the house.

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They didn't lock it up. They didn't hide it.

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They didn't do any of that stuff. They was like,

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look, it's there. My mom's approach, I remember

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she told me I was 16. She was like, look, you're

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going to find a way to drink it and to do whatever

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you want to do anyway. So you might as well do

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it in the house where I can see you and kind

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of supervise. So she didn't really encourage

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drinking. She was just like. If you're going

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to do it, do it at home. I know what it's like

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to be a teenager. I know you're going to get

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into stuff. Do it at home. So I had a lot of

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liberty as a kid. And I thank my mom for that.

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Because I think when you take that approach to

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parenting and you don't try to keep them away

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from this and try to manipulate the situation,

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they just end up getting in all types of crap.

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But when you give them that freedom, still keep

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an eye on them. You make sure you know what they're

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doing, but just give them some leeway and some

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freedom to F up if they want to, you know within

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certain parameters, but they weren't so They

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were very liberal with me. I'll say that and

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I think Maybe the only reason why I did drink

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at 16 and 17 is a because it was there B I kind

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of somewhat had permission And for the most part,

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I always did it at home. And it wasn't heavy

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drink or anything like that. It was like on the

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weekends. And even then, it was like a wine cooler.

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My mom was a Verdi person. She loved Verdi. She

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loved Spumante. A little sweet drink. So we're

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talking about like a fuzzy neighbor or something

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like that. Anybody that grew up with me remember

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the fuzzy neighbors I used to get on the weekends.

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So that type of stuff. So yeah, it was never

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really excessive until I started, you know, venturing

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out and partying and stuff like that. And I would

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drink a little bit too much and not so much.

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There was too much. It was, I mixed a lot. So

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I would go from beer to wine and I would have

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a shot of this and Hey, Andre, try this. I'll

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have a shot of that. And so I would just end

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up getting wasted. Not because of the amount

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that I was drinking, but just when you mix so

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many different things, you're going to get messed

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up. You know, so it was that was kind of how

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I grew up. It wasn't a horrible thing but Like

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I said, it's always been pretty easy for me to

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self -correct But as I got older I had to go

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through my changes like with like with anyone

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else Oh the point I was gonna make earlier about

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why I was drinking at 16 remember the last show

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when I shared a little bit about just a few of

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the traumas that I went through at age 13. I

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think, had it not been for those traumas, I would

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not have leaned on alcohol to cope. Back then,

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I didn't know I was coping. I just liked the

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way it made me feel. And it was just kind of

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like a release or something, you know. But looking

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back on it, that was my coping mechanism. And

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so that's why I was telling you, you really have

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to make sure you get to the root of your traumas

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because if you leave it unresolved, you're going

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to manifest all sorts of different behaviors

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and coping mechanisms that you don't even realize

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are a coping mechanism. You just think it's normal

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behavior, but you're really acting out of trauma.

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And so that's for anyone with unresolved trauma.

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So it's nothing to feel ashamed about. we all

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have some form of trauma and varying levels of

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trauma in our lives, you know. But yeah, so that's

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why I was drinking that early in my life. And

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I think had my mom and dad been more strict,

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I probably would have kind of went in another

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direction and been rebellious and found stuff

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to get into. But Since I had a little bit of

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stuff at home to get into, I didn't go crazy

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with it. And so, yeah, so it was just become

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more of a habit than really an addiction for

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me. Just something I was used to doing. And once

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I retired and relocated to Puerto Rico, I noticed

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that I was still in that habit of drinking every

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day. And it took a friend to sort of challenge

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me on that. And by the way, that's what real

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friends do. If real friends see where you have

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a pattern of behavior that's not in your best

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interest, they're gonna call you on it. They're

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gonna confront you on it. That's what a real

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friend will do. You know, instead of just letting

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you just continue to go down a path that's not

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good. But yeah, I had a friend that sort of challenged

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me on that and They were like, Andre, do you

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really feel like you should be drinking every

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day? And they asked it very delicately. And at

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first, it's easy to take questions like that

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and become defensive and be like, look, I'm grown,

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or I'm not hurting anybody, or why do you care?

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But they care because they're your friends. And

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you are hurting yourself if you're drinking every

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day, whether you're grown or not. So getting

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defensive is a clue that there's something there

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that you may want to take a look at it. So in

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my case, my friend had a point. And so it really

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gave me something to think about. And I was like,

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you know what? There really isn't a reason for

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me to be drinking every single day. I'm retired

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from federal civil service. I don't have the

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stress of that leadership position anymore. I

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don't have the weight of carrying a team and

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making sure everybody's pulling their weight.

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I'm not in the toxic states anymore where daily

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life is like a nightmare. I'm not around my family,

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who I love. I love my family. And I know it's

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just not my family, so I'm not demonizing my

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family. But my family always has some shit going

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on. So I'm away from all of that. So what am

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I drinking every day? What for? And so that's

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when I really understood that for me, drinking

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had become more of a habit than an addiction,

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which is my way of unwinding or what I do at

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the end of the day. So now I've switched things

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up a bit and I only drink on the weekends, Friday,

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Saturday and Sunday. And that's been working

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really well for me. Do I necessarily like it?

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No, absolutely not. I don't. I hate it actually,

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but I know when something is in my best interest.

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And for me, it's in my best interest that I fast

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from alcohol through the week. There's just no

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reason to drink during the week unless it's a

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special occasion or something. And honestly,

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if I'm not willing to or able to make that type

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of adjustment and sacrifice for my own health

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and wellbeing, then yeah, that would mean I really

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do have a problem. but Boy do I live for the

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weekends now the weekends are like my jam now.

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I never used to be a weekend person Not really

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Because I was always a workaholic. I I never

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really did anything on the weekends I just found

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myself working in some capacity anyway, whether

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it was working on the show or you know writing

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another book or Doing some work for my regular

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job over the weekend. So that's That's what my

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weekends were about. But now things are a little

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different. My weekends are for wine and whiskey

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and whatever else I can get my hands on. But

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seriously though, since I've cut back on the

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alcohol consumption, I do feel a lot better.

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I have a lot more mental clarity and focus. And

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my stomach's even got a little flatter. And the

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quality of my shows are better when I'm not drinking.

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Everybody wins. But all right. OK, so let's shift

00:17:55.609 --> 00:17:59.009
gears a little bit and let's talk about. One

00:17:59.009 --> 00:18:03.670
of my other character flaws, OK, my legendary

00:18:03.670 --> 00:18:08.970
ability to miss every cultural moment as it's

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actually happening. So this is going to be a

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brand new segment I'm going to do on. These type

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of shows where it's more laid -back. I'm gonna

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do a segment called better late than never So

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this is gonna be where I finally show up to the

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conversation That people have had years ago whether

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it's a show that everybody's already spoiled

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a movie that's been rebooted already or a Trend

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that died some slow embarrassing death and I'm

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just now discovering it. I admit it. I'm late.

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I may be a little behind but I'm committed to

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being behind with confidence. So I'm going to

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tell you what I think about some things that

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you guys probably stopped caring about a couple

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of years ago. OK, so like I said, I finally have

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a little bit of time on my hands, right? So I've

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been catching up on some old movies that I've

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been wanting to see. And one of them is Beetlejuice

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Beetlejuice. OK, so for anyone that doesn't know,

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that's the It's not a reboot. It's just a sequel

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to the original Beetlejuice movie Okay, and I

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realize some people may not even care about this,

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but hey, I'm having fun This is what I want to

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talk about today so the first thing is I love

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that Michael Keaton and the other main characters

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reprise their roles. I love that Tim Burton Came

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back and directed the sequel. He also directed

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the first movie And I just love his take on dark

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fantasy and comedy horror, that whole genre.

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It reminds me of some of my favorite movies that

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he directed, Edward Scissorhands. He directed

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a couple of the Batmans. My favorite though is

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Batman Returns. But I like a lot of that weird,

00:20:02.740 --> 00:20:06.980
creepy, Tim Burton type feel. But I love in this

00:20:06.980 --> 00:20:09.359
movie how those characters from the original

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those afterlife creatures or whatever they were

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all staples in this this new version of the movie

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so remember the little shrunken head character

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or whatever they were in there um some other

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familiar aspects of the the movie um from the

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original movie now one thing i could have done

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without uh was this storyline about Lydia Lydia

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Dietz that's the you know the goth girl the original

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goth girl from the original movie Played by Winona

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Ryder. They gave her a love interest in this

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movie. And I'll give it to them. They found a

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kind of a clever way to incorporate it in the

00:20:50.259 --> 00:20:54.859
movie without being totally annoying. That was

00:20:54.859 --> 00:20:57.039
OK. The only disappointment for me with this

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movie is that since Lydia's father, Charles Dietz,

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he's deceased in the sequel. OK, apparently he

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had some controversy in real life and I guess

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the studio didn't want him linked to this brand

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and this movie anymore. So they kind of killed

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him off. So although they found a way to incorporate

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his passing in the story without making it off

00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:25.839
brand for the movie, I feel like they missed

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an opportunity to make this untimely death of

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his a more prominent part of the story. I would

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have threw in some mysterious circumstances surrounding

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his death. And I would have had the family go

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back to that original house. Remember that original

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like two, three stories, spooky looking house

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on the hill, the White House, which was in the

00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:49.259
sequel. They had that in the sequel, by the way.

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But I would have used that backdrop to commune

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with Lydia's father's dead spirit to find out

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what truly happened to him. And then this would

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have kind of opened the way to potentially recreating

00:22:02.980 --> 00:22:05.299
one of the most memorable scenes from the first

00:22:05.299 --> 00:22:08.140
Beetlejuice. which was that dinner party scene.

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Remember, it was a dinner party and they end

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up having this seance and the entire group is

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possessed or something. They do like this conga

00:22:19.140 --> 00:22:21.559
line to that song, that popular song, six foot,

00:22:21.660 --> 00:22:24.339
seven foot, eight foot, you know, that song.

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So I just feel like they really dropped the ball

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there. And aside from that, if you're a fan of

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the original... Beetlejuice movie, I think you'll

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really enjoy the sequel. It doesn't outdo the

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original, which, you know, it's hard to do, but

00:22:39.609 --> 00:22:43.309
it definitely gives you that feeling of nostalgia

00:22:43.309 --> 00:22:46.369
from your childhood if that's what you're looking

00:22:46.369 --> 00:22:50.349
for. It does give you that. Okay, all right,

00:22:50.430 --> 00:22:55.809
moving on. So now let's talk about this not so

00:22:55.809 --> 00:22:59.329
new social media trend that has been going around.

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I guess it's more like a challenge. It's where

00:23:03.329 --> 00:23:07.569
people post their cash app, right? And these

00:23:07.569 --> 00:23:10.890
so -called pay pigs randomly send you money.

00:23:12.069 --> 00:23:14.009
Have y 'all seen this? Have y 'all, has anyone

00:23:14.009 --> 00:23:18.390
tried this? Okay, so I gave this a try about

00:23:18.390 --> 00:23:22.990
maybe two or three days ago. Because I mean,

00:23:23.069 --> 00:23:24.769
I just wanna see if it works. I'm not gonna block

00:23:24.769 --> 00:23:27.420
my blessing. I'm seeing folks screenshotting

00:23:27.420 --> 00:23:29.880
their cash out there getting hundreds of dollars

00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:31.880
sent to them. Some of them are getting thousands

00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:34.339
of dollars, just from random people who don't

00:23:34.339 --> 00:23:36.859
know them. All they did was put their cash up

00:23:36.859 --> 00:23:39.819
out there. And a lot of these folks, they aren't

00:23:39.819 --> 00:23:42.519
even cute. So I figured, what do I have to lose?

00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:47.140
You know, you lose. I still look good. I'm still

00:23:47.140 --> 00:23:50.279
sexy. Let somebody that want to be generous go

00:23:50.279 --> 00:23:55.000
ahead and send me some weekend drink money. Although

00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:57.079
I posted it, I think here's the thing. I think

00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.660
it only works for women. Because on my TikTok,

00:24:01.059 --> 00:24:03.720
I just mentioned it. I said, look, I was like,

00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.400
where are the pay pigs for men? That's what I

00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:09.279
want to know. Let's not discriminate and just

00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:11.799
send the women the money. I put myself out there,

00:24:11.940 --> 00:24:14.880
send me some money too. You know, it may work,

00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:16.900
it may not. I don't know. I don't have anything

00:24:16.900 --> 00:24:19.740
to show for it yet, but I know I'm jumping on

00:24:19.740 --> 00:24:22.119
the train late. I don't care. I just put it out

00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:23.980
there everyone else is doing it. Maybe someone's

00:24:23.980 --> 00:24:27.740
gonna send me something great It people getting

00:24:27.740 --> 00:24:30.400
five and six hundred and thousands of dollars

00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:34.000
for nothing. So hey, why not? If you want to

00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:35.559
send me some money, I'll even shout you out on

00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:38.079
the radio Because that's sponsor money right

00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:39.539
there if you're sending four and five hundred

00:24:39.539 --> 00:24:43.279
dollars Speaking of sponsors if you're a business

00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:46.630
owner or entrepreneur Maybe you're an author

00:24:46.630 --> 00:24:49.230
or a recording artist and you want to sponsor

00:24:49.230 --> 00:24:52.210
a future episode or be a guest on the show Just

00:24:52.210 --> 00:24:54.569
shoot me an email at live with dr. Andre Jerry

00:24:54.569 --> 00:24:58.970
at gmail .com and we'd love to have you on so

00:24:58.970 --> 00:25:02.809
yeah, I admit that I'm late to the Pay Pig trend,

00:25:02.809 --> 00:25:07.069
but like I said better late than never and if

00:25:07.069 --> 00:25:09.089
any pay pigs are listening right now my cash

00:25:09.089 --> 00:25:14.599
tag is dr. Andre Jerry Okay All right, y 'all,

00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:16.359
listen, I'm having too much fun with this. Let's

00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:19.579
take a quick commercial break. But don't go anywhere.

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When we come back, we've got more random rants

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And you are listening to the Artist First Radio

00:27:29.339 --> 00:27:41.150
Network. Hey everybody, welcome back to live

00:27:41.150 --> 00:27:43.549
with Dr. Andre Geary. Hey, thanks for hanging

00:27:43.549 --> 00:27:46.029
in with me through the commercial break. If you're

00:27:46.029 --> 00:27:49.430
just joining us, our topic tonight is random

00:27:49.430 --> 00:27:52.750
rants and real talk. So like I said, this is

00:27:52.750 --> 00:27:56.490
part three of our ongoing series. And right before

00:27:56.490 --> 00:27:58.730
the break, we wrapped up our brand new segment

00:27:58.730 --> 00:28:03.109
called Better Late Than Never. It's a new segment

00:28:03.109 --> 00:28:04.930
I'm introducing where I talk about basically

00:28:04.930 --> 00:28:10.849
how late I am to pop culture. So listen, I think

00:28:10.849 --> 00:28:13.009
I had too much fun catching up on the pop culture

00:28:13.009 --> 00:28:15.710
stuff. I'm totally late to the party, but hey,

00:28:15.710 --> 00:28:17.950
that's the point. I may not be on time, but when

00:28:17.950 --> 00:28:19.809
I show up, I'm gonna try to make it somewhat

00:28:19.809 --> 00:28:22.390
entertaining for you. All right, so now we're

00:28:22.390 --> 00:28:24.490
gonna shift gears a little bit and we're gonna

00:28:24.490 --> 00:28:27.970
move from last to something a little bit deeper,

00:28:28.150 --> 00:28:30.970
but not too much. Because part of real talk is

00:28:30.970 --> 00:28:33.990
about being real and talking about what's going

00:28:33.990 --> 00:28:38.009
on inside. So let's talk about that last episode.

00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:42.240
That was some pretty heavy stuff, right? We talked

00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:46.160
about mental health, childhood trauma, we talked

00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:49.000
about coping mechanisms as a result of that trauma.

00:28:49.619 --> 00:28:53.500
It was a lot. And as much as it may have helped

00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:57.380
you all, it helped me as well because there were

00:28:57.380 --> 00:29:02.079
some things that I was just coming to grips with

00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:06.839
on the air as I was talking, right? And one of

00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:12.440
those things was The realization that my friendship

00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:17.720
with John Was always toxic. I Know y 'all are

00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:19.759
probably like you on John again. I have been

00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.200
dragging John lately, but it's not it's not personal,

00:29:23.220 --> 00:29:29.299
but I really when I was doing the episode last

00:29:29.299 --> 00:29:32.200
week I really dawned on me during that episode

00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:36.279
that he was like never really my friend. He just

00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:41.420
never was and That whole thing about, you know,

00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:43.400
believe people when they reveal to you who they

00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:46.599
are. The first time he always presented himself

00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:50.539
as an adversary. From day one, he was one of

00:29:50.539 --> 00:29:55.579
my bullies. So. Even though he was posing as

00:29:55.579 --> 00:29:59.119
a friend, he was just. At best, a friend of me.

00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:02.599
You saw how quick he turned on me, betrayed me.

00:30:02.619 --> 00:30:05.299
It was that same school year he turned on me.

00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:11.289
And I guess. Back then I was so desperate for

00:30:11.289 --> 00:30:16.289
friendship and to be accepted By everybody and

00:30:16.289 --> 00:30:19.690
by the popular kids that I just went along with

00:30:19.690 --> 00:30:27.230
that fake friendship for 30 plus years Looking

00:30:27.230 --> 00:30:32.890
back John was always jealous of me even back

00:30:32.890 --> 00:30:36.230
when he was a bully and Talking crap about literally

00:30:36.230 --> 00:30:39.529
talking crap behind my back like literary literally

00:30:39.529 --> 00:30:44.009
There was something he must have saw in me that

00:30:44.009 --> 00:30:47.349
maybe I didn't even see For myself at the time,

00:30:47.349 --> 00:30:50.089
but there was something about me that made him

00:30:50.089 --> 00:30:56.529
feel small or Inferior or envious or something

00:30:56.529 --> 00:31:00.650
because like I mentioned before John was one

00:31:00.650 --> 00:31:05.519
of the most popular kids in the school And that's

00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:07.259
not the only thing he had going for him. I mean,

00:31:07.460 --> 00:31:09.619
John was handsome. He was always cute. He was

00:31:09.619 --> 00:31:12.500
always the handsome guy. I had to grow into my

00:31:12.500 --> 00:31:15.740
looks. But John was always a cute guy. The girls

00:31:15.740 --> 00:31:18.500
loved him. He was always tall. He was like one

00:31:18.500 --> 00:31:22.240
of the tallest guys in the class or in the school.

00:31:22.299 --> 00:31:24.880
So why would he feel intimidated by anything

00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.619
I had going on? I was scrawny. I was a nerdy

00:31:27.619 --> 00:31:31.380
kid. I looked exactly like Steve Urkel, acted

00:31:31.380 --> 00:31:34.569
like him too, because I was so awkward. Trying

00:31:34.569 --> 00:31:38.609
not to be awkward and in that In in trying not

00:31:38.609 --> 00:31:40.890
to be awkward. I was even more awkward. So I

00:31:40.890 --> 00:31:45.069
was just a mess you know just something simple

00:31:45.069 --> 00:31:47.609
as walking down the hallway in between classes

00:31:47.609 --> 00:31:51.589
was just Excruciating for me cuz like Andre watch

00:31:51.589 --> 00:31:54.269
how you walk don't walk to this don't walk to

00:31:54.269 --> 00:31:57.789
that You know I was just a mess all to keep people

00:31:57.789 --> 00:32:02.420
off me cuz back then if you did anything Just

00:32:02.420 --> 00:32:05.059
out of the ordinary god forbid you tripped up

00:32:05.059 --> 00:32:07.359
or god forbid you dropped your book or anything

00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.799
It was just on it was just gonna be on it's gonna

00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.480
be on you all day So I lived on edge in school

00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.059
trying to be perfect and not make any missteps

00:32:16.059 --> 00:32:18.619
because I didn't want everybody on me Don't start

00:32:18.619 --> 00:32:20.880
with that crap. You know, I'm just trying to

00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.839
get through the day. It was like a war zone but

00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:30.130
um But yeah, but whatever John had with me I

00:32:30.130 --> 00:32:32.049
think that's the reason why he fed me to the

00:32:32.049 --> 00:32:35.849
wolves in the lunchroom that day, and why he

00:32:35.849 --> 00:32:41.069
never kept any of my secrets, and why he refused

00:32:41.069 --> 00:32:43.910
to provide that character witness for me that

00:32:43.910 --> 00:32:46.410
I needed all those years ago. I was really relying

00:32:46.410 --> 00:32:49.210
on him for that. And it didn't even dawn on me

00:32:49.210 --> 00:32:52.170
that he would decline or say no. It was just

00:32:52.170 --> 00:32:54.690
like a no -brainer. It was the first name I gave

00:32:54.690 --> 00:32:58.220
to my attorney. So like I said, I was just dumbfounded.

00:32:58.660 --> 00:33:00.220
But you know, looking back on it, all of that

00:33:00.220 --> 00:33:05.279
was done intentionally to hurt me, to harm me.

00:33:06.019 --> 00:33:11.240
But it's OK. It's OK. We learn. We grow. We forgive.

00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:13.940
Always forgive the people who hurt you. I'm not

00:33:13.940 --> 00:33:16.339
mad or upset with John or whatever. I have been

00:33:16.339 --> 00:33:18.079
dragging him in the past couple of episodes.

00:33:18.220 --> 00:33:22.230
But it's all within context. for educational

00:33:22.230 --> 00:33:24.710
purposes, for educational purposes, and to use

00:33:24.710 --> 00:33:27.829
my life as an illustration to help you with your

00:33:27.829 --> 00:33:30.029
John. I'm not the only one with a John. Your

00:33:30.029 --> 00:33:32.369
John is probably worse than mine. And John is

00:33:32.369 --> 00:33:36.470
not a bad person. I don't want to demonize him.

00:33:36.470 --> 00:33:40.190
He just was not a good friend to me. That's all.

00:33:40.609 --> 00:33:42.069
And we're going to get off of John. I'm going

00:33:42.069 --> 00:33:44.690
to try not to mention him any more in this show,

00:33:44.710 --> 00:33:47.930
because I have been dragging this poor guy. OK,

00:33:47.930 --> 00:33:52.559
so anyway, I have this other friend. name Craig.

00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.059
And I don't know if Craig is listening or not,

00:33:56.700 --> 00:34:00.059
but honestly, I don't know what's going to come

00:34:00.059 --> 00:34:05.619
of that particular friendship. Craig and I have

00:34:05.619 --> 00:34:09.059
known each other for 10 years now. We met each

00:34:09.059 --> 00:34:15.280
other 10 years ago last month. And the reason

00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.619
why I remember that is because that's when I

00:34:18.619 --> 00:34:21.650
started my career with the federal government.

00:34:22.369 --> 00:34:28.570
It was May 2015. Craig was the facilitator in

00:34:28.570 --> 00:34:32.110
charge of new employee orientation for all federal

00:34:32.110 --> 00:34:34.489
employees. It was a requirement if you were an

00:34:34.489 --> 00:34:39.510
incoming civilian. And he introduced every speaker

00:34:39.510 --> 00:34:42.409
that addressed our group. He did the speaking

00:34:42.409 --> 00:34:45.289
between speakers. So he sort of facilitated the

00:34:45.289 --> 00:34:50.719
whole thing. Well, One of those speakers was

00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.719
supposed to be a woman from the base housing

00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.260
office. And I was particularly interested in

00:34:57.260 --> 00:35:02.360
her briefing because I was new to town. I remember

00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:05.639
I was staying in a hotel until I found an apartment

00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:10.019
or some type of permanent housing. Well, for

00:35:10.019 --> 00:35:12.800
whatever reason, the lady from the housing department

00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.039
who was supposed to speak at a particular time,

00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.460
she didn't show up. So Craig just went on to

00:35:19.460 --> 00:35:23.960
the next speaker and I'm panicking on the inside

00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:26.719
because I've been waiting all morning to hear

00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:28.280
what this lady has to say because I need to speak

00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.360
with her about getting on the wait list for housing

00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:33.500
and you know tell her my situation because at

00:35:33.500 --> 00:35:37.239
$91 a night I remember where I was paying the

00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.500
little money I had saved up It was just getting

00:35:40.500 --> 00:35:43.300
drained more and more every day, you know, so

00:35:43.300 --> 00:35:46.219
I'm antsy and I'm waiting I'm sitting through

00:35:46.219 --> 00:35:49.059
all these trainings and I'm watching Craig you

00:35:49.059 --> 00:35:51.760
know speak or whatever and you know I'm just

00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.159
waiting for the lunch break to come so I can

00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.139
speak with him because I'm going to go to him

00:35:56.139 --> 00:35:59.079
at the lunch break and ask him about this lady

00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.079
and you know is she coming to speak later on

00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.960
today or the next day or what but as I'm watching

00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:09.800
Craig speak I can't help but notice that he has

00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:14.539
this sadness in his eyes and I remember saying

00:36:14.539 --> 00:36:16.619
to myself, that man is going through something.

00:36:17.179 --> 00:36:18.420
I don't know what he's going through, but he's

00:36:18.420 --> 00:36:20.599
going through something. Something's weighing

00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:24.420
heavy on him. And I don't think anyone else could

00:36:24.420 --> 00:36:26.760
discern that, but I don't know, with me just

00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:30.159
being an empath or whatever, I just saw it. I

00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.139
don't know if anyone else saw it, but I saw it.

00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:34.940
So anyway, we finally get to lunch, and I introduce

00:36:34.940 --> 00:36:37.800
myself, and I give my whole spiel about, hey,

00:36:37.820 --> 00:36:39.679
I really need to talk to the lady from the housing

00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:41.619
office. Do you know if she's coming later today,

00:36:41.619 --> 00:36:45.969
tomorrow? And, you know, he was like, I don't

00:36:45.969 --> 00:36:48.210
know whether she's coming back to speak or not.

00:36:48.530 --> 00:36:50.949
Usually if a person shows up at, you know, or

00:36:50.949 --> 00:36:52.710
doesn't show up at their appointed time to brief,

00:36:52.789 --> 00:36:56.050
I just move on to the next speaker. And then

00:36:56.050 --> 00:36:58.710
he was like, you know, I tell you what, it's

00:36:58.710 --> 00:37:01.289
lunch. I'll take you over to their office. It's

00:37:01.289 --> 00:37:04.110
right up the street. You can follow me on my

00:37:04.110 --> 00:37:06.710
bike. I'll take you there. He was driving his

00:37:06.710 --> 00:37:10.610
motorcycle at the time. So I'm super grateful

00:37:10.610 --> 00:37:13.090
for his help. I follow him over there. He takes

00:37:13.090 --> 00:37:16.429
me into the office. He tells the people my situation

00:37:16.429 --> 00:37:19.190
and who I'm here to speak to and all of that.

00:37:19.590 --> 00:37:22.030
Turns out the person that I needed to speak to

00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:27.170
was out of the office. They didn't know when

00:37:27.170 --> 00:37:30.250
the person would return. And it wasn't a little

00:37:30.250 --> 00:37:31.829
thing like if she was at lunch and she would

00:37:31.829 --> 00:37:33.530
be back at such and such time. She had been out

00:37:33.530 --> 00:37:35.010
of the office for, I guess, a couple of days.

00:37:35.710 --> 00:37:38.869
You know, um, I guess Craig felt sorry for me.

00:37:38.869 --> 00:37:41.829
We went back out to my car and his bike and he

00:37:41.829 --> 00:37:46.849
was like, Hey, uh, look, man, um, uh, you know,

00:37:46.949 --> 00:37:48.889
I know your situation. You told me you knew in

00:37:48.889 --> 00:37:52.349
town, you stay in the hotel. He said, look, I

00:37:52.349 --> 00:37:55.710
got a three bedroom, you know, duplex or whatever.

00:37:56.449 --> 00:37:59.409
It's just me. He said, you're more than welcome

00:37:59.409 --> 00:38:01.949
to take one of the rooms and stay there until

00:38:01.949 --> 00:38:05.429
you, um, can find your place, you know, more.

00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.559
stable or whatever. He wasn't even going to charge

00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.699
me anything. He just wanted to get me out the

00:38:10.699 --> 00:38:14.320
hotel and just give me some place to stay where

00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:15.760
I didn't have to worry about paying a whole bunch

00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:18.039
of money until I found my own apartment or whatever.

00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:20.780
So I was like, yeah, that sounds cool or whatever.

00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.320
So we went straight from there to his place.

00:38:24.699 --> 00:38:26.280
And he showed me the place. He was like, hey,

00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:28.639
this is my spot, blah, blah, blah, blah. And

00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:30.460
like I said, you're more than welcome. Don't

00:38:30.460 --> 00:38:33.139
worry about paying anything. I think it was early

00:38:33.139 --> 00:38:35.980
in the month. So yeah, he's gonna let me stay

00:38:35.980 --> 00:38:37.719
there to the end of the month or whatever. He

00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.179
said, you need to stay longer. We'll talk about

00:38:40.179 --> 00:38:42.280
maybe some payment arrangements or whatever.

00:38:42.340 --> 00:38:44.820
But he said, for now, just feel free to stay

00:38:44.820 --> 00:38:46.619
for the rest of the month until you find something.

00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:53.659
I'm like, okay, bet. So I move in and we just

00:38:53.659 --> 00:38:57.559
click. We click and we just become fast friends.

00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.230
That sad look. in his eyes that I was telling

00:39:02.230 --> 00:39:05.250
you about before, it turns out that he was going

00:39:05.250 --> 00:39:07.710
through a divorce. He was at the beginning stages

00:39:07.710 --> 00:39:11.110
of going through a divorce. And he was separated

00:39:11.110 --> 00:39:14.210
from his wife, his two kids, I think were teenagers

00:39:14.210 --> 00:39:18.510
at the time, young teenagers. And during that

00:39:18.510 --> 00:39:20.309
interim period where they were separated and

00:39:20.309 --> 00:39:23.989
going through a divorce, he moved out and was

00:39:23.989 --> 00:39:27.289
just extremely sad. Loved his family, but obviously

00:39:27.289 --> 00:39:30.420
made some mistakes. you know, the wife took all

00:39:30.420 --> 00:39:32.639
she could take and was, you know, just gonna

00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:36.219
move on with her life. And that's what that sadness

00:39:36.219 --> 00:39:38.679
was. I knew it was something, but all of that

00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.039
came out, you know, in the weeks and as you spend

00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.199
time with people and learn to learn more about

00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.440
them, we're learning more about each other. And

00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:49.639
so that's the heaviness that he was carrying.

00:39:50.460 --> 00:39:54.519
And he was just perpetually sad during that time.

00:39:54.909 --> 00:39:57.130
You know, he cracked jokes here and there, but

00:39:57.130 --> 00:40:00.550
he was just wearing this heaviness. So I guess

00:40:00.550 --> 00:40:03.130
long story short, Craig and I became like really

00:40:03.130 --> 00:40:07.429
close friends, like brother -type friends. And

00:40:07.429 --> 00:40:11.489
we got into cycling. He got me into getting my

00:40:11.489 --> 00:40:13.889
first motorcycle. I learned how to ride a motorcycle.

00:40:13.929 --> 00:40:18.210
He taught me that. He introduced me to camping

00:40:18.210 --> 00:40:20.730
and hiking and different little things. He was

00:40:20.730 --> 00:40:23.230
doing all of these activities to keep his mind

00:40:23.230 --> 00:40:26.460
off of his family. and off of the divorce and

00:40:26.460 --> 00:40:29.159
all the stuff he was going through. And looking

00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.000
back, that's what he was doing at the time. I

00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.360
just thought, you know, oh, this guy's cool.

00:40:33.460 --> 00:40:35.559
He's into this. He's into that. But he was just

00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.440
trying to keep his mind occupied. And I can see

00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:43.639
that now. And we just developed a bond and became

00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:47.880
really, really close. And so Craig's like family.

00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:54.079
Over the years... You know, we continue to stay

00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:57.500
in contact and stay close. We're always close.

00:40:58.739 --> 00:41:01.420
I think we started to drift a little bit once

00:41:01.420 --> 00:41:04.519
I started going on these tours to like Saudi

00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:06.539
and moving to these different bases and things

00:41:06.539 --> 00:41:10.000
like that. The distance kind of put a little

00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.480
bit of a strain, but we were still, you know,

00:41:13.579 --> 00:41:18.340
keeping contact. But I think the first break

00:41:18.340 --> 00:41:21.260
that we had in terms of because we never had

00:41:21.260 --> 00:41:23.719
an argument. To this day, we never had an argument,

00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.460
but I think the first little fracture in our

00:41:26.460 --> 00:41:30.119
friendship was when that woman, when he started

00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:32.639
dating that woman. And I talked about her in

00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:34.699
one of my other rants. I think it was the very

00:41:34.699 --> 00:41:39.579
first rant episode I did. When she came into

00:41:39.579 --> 00:41:41.820
his life, that's when things started to take

00:41:41.820 --> 00:41:45.519
a turn. We all got along at first. We all hung

00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:48.980
out, and I was the third wheel for the longest,

00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:52.940
and it was never a problem. And then at some

00:41:52.940 --> 00:42:00.300
point he, well, me and his girlfriend had some

00:42:00.300 --> 00:42:03.559
type of disagreement, a petty stupid disagreement

00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:07.699
at that. And just was never able to recover from

00:42:07.699 --> 00:42:11.559
it. And some kind of way Craig and I were able

00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:16.800
to still keep our friendship intact. But it came

00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:20.920
to a point where I just... didn't f with her

00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.480
anymore like I didn't want to be if she was around

00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:25.820
I'm not gonna be around because I'm seeing that

00:42:25.820 --> 00:42:29.199
this person is just not I can't speak for where

00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.880
she is now but she went through a really tough

00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:35.059
spot where she was really difficult and very

00:42:35.059 --> 00:42:39.659
nasty just very nasty and I'm like are you with

00:42:39.659 --> 00:42:44.889
this woman and And so I fell out with the girlfriend.

00:42:45.110 --> 00:42:47.789
It always sucks when your best friend has a girlfriend

00:42:47.789 --> 00:42:49.889
that you don't get along. That sucks. If anybody

00:42:49.889 --> 00:42:52.889
has ever had to deal with that dynamic, it just

00:42:52.889 --> 00:42:55.530
sucks. But some kind of way Craig and I were

00:42:55.530 --> 00:42:57.809
able to navigate it as best we could until it

00:42:57.809 --> 00:43:00.949
got to the point to where, look, I'm not going

00:43:00.949 --> 00:43:04.309
to be over here anymore. All this third wheeling

00:43:04.309 --> 00:43:06.989
and throw a fool and hanging out, all of that's

00:43:06.989 --> 00:43:10.030
just done. I cannot be around this woman. I understand

00:43:10.030 --> 00:43:13.420
y 'all are dating or whatever. I'll hang with

00:43:13.420 --> 00:43:16.199
you when I can, but I can't do her. I just can't

00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:20.760
do her. And you know, so that really, that plus

00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.760
the distance and going back and forth to Saudi

00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.860
and these other places, that kind of just put

00:43:25.860 --> 00:43:30.239
us in a weird spot. And we weren't as close,

00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:32.500
we were still cool, but we weren't as close as

00:43:32.500 --> 00:43:38.360
we used to be. And then so fast forward a couple

00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:44.039
of years, I come back from Saudi. And he's just

00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.659
a straight out atheist now, and has been for

00:43:47.659 --> 00:43:52.840
like three plus years. And I grew, not gonna

00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:56.360
say I grew up with, but I'm used to the Craig

00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.460
that was preaching the Bible, and we talk about

00:43:59.460 --> 00:44:02.139
scriptures, and he was like a spiritual sort

00:44:02.139 --> 00:44:05.199
of mentor. You know, he used to be a pastor.

00:44:06.309 --> 00:44:09.150
so when I come back from Saudi and he's like

00:44:09.150 --> 00:44:13.869
full -blown atheist it was just at first I thought

00:44:13.869 --> 00:44:16.289
it was like maybe a joke or a phase or something

00:44:16.289 --> 00:44:18.730
like that and you know because he goes through

00:44:18.730 --> 00:44:21.349
different little phases and stuff and so I thought

00:44:21.349 --> 00:44:24.829
maybe the atheist stuff was just a phase no he

00:44:24.829 --> 00:44:27.690
went full throttle and it got worse and worse

00:44:27.690 --> 00:44:31.869
and worse in terms of the rhetoric and he's not

00:44:33.030 --> 00:44:35.610
quiet atheist. He's not one of those atheists

00:44:35.610 --> 00:44:38.650
that's just going to allow you to still believe

00:44:38.650 --> 00:44:42.969
in God and have your belief. He actively tries

00:44:42.969 --> 00:44:47.489
to pull people away from God and their belief

00:44:47.489 --> 00:44:51.889
and to really fervently tell them that what they're

00:44:51.889 --> 00:44:54.710
believing in is a lie and none of this stuff

00:44:54.710 --> 00:45:00.550
is real and just you know very intense and so

00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:02.599
I'm the type of person I can you don't have to

00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:05.519
have it helps if you have the same belief system

00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:09.920
as I do in terms of the friendship. I can let

00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.599
you have your belief, but when you are like coming

00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.480
at me like, no, this is you still on that Jesus

00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:21.460
crap and da da da da that type of vibe and it

00:45:21.460 --> 00:45:26.539
is. I saw where it had the potential to take

00:45:26.539 --> 00:45:31.159
a combative turn. And rather than let it get

00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:34.679
to that point, I just sort of backed away. And

00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.059
maybe instead of checking in twice a week, it

00:45:37.059 --> 00:45:40.800
was just one. And now we're at the point to where

00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:46.760
I've been in Puerto Rico for, what, since the

00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:50.719
middle of March, near the end of March, and I've

00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:56.400
spoken to Craig maybe once. So I don't know where

00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:01.010
that friendship fans, um, I don't want to write

00:46:01.010 --> 00:46:04.690
him off. I don't want to do that because I don't

00:46:04.690 --> 00:46:07.469
think he would write me off. You know, I'm not

00:46:07.469 --> 00:46:12.469
perfect. Um, but it's very hard for me and my

00:46:12.469 --> 00:46:18.710
spiritual walk where I am to be really close

00:46:18.710 --> 00:46:23.289
and chummy and just buddy buddy with a full blown

00:46:23.289 --> 00:46:28.869
atheist who was very vocal. and proud of his

00:46:28.869 --> 00:46:32.349
atheism. So it's just that's one of those friendships

00:46:32.349 --> 00:46:34.949
where I don't know what to do. I prayed about

00:46:34.949 --> 00:46:41.869
it. I love Craig, but I just between the atheist

00:46:41.869 --> 00:46:47.269
stuff and that girl, I can't. So I'm going to

00:46:47.269 --> 00:46:52.150
do what I can to keep that relationship and friendship.

00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.380
Alive as best I can given this new distance that

00:46:55.380 --> 00:46:57.659
we have where he's in Warner Robbins, and I'm

00:46:57.659 --> 00:47:05.900
in Puerto Rico But I don't know I That's a difficult

00:47:05.900 --> 00:47:08.739
one for me because like I said, I love Craig

00:47:08.739 --> 00:47:14.260
a lot and And he's even met Renata My friend

00:47:14.260 --> 00:47:17.559
Renata who is the reason why I have this show

00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.280
and I have a picture and I'm gonna print it out

00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:23.570
and put it somewhere but I have a picture of

00:47:23.570 --> 00:47:27.530
Craig and Renata together at one of Renata's

00:47:27.530 --> 00:47:30.889
book signings. And so to have a picture with

00:47:30.889 --> 00:47:34.389
two of my closest friends pictured together like

00:47:34.389 --> 00:47:36.110
that, and they're not necessarily friends, but

00:47:36.110 --> 00:47:38.489
they've met each other and like each other, I

00:47:38.489 --> 00:47:40.230
think I need to print that out and put that up

00:47:40.230 --> 00:47:43.369
somewhere. I don't know what made me just think

00:47:43.369 --> 00:47:45.789
about that picture. But yeah, I'm going to have

00:47:45.789 --> 00:47:50.679
to just keep you guys updated on The Craig situation,

00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.500
I think. Very soon after this broadcast, I'm

00:47:54.500 --> 00:47:56.079
going to reach out to him. I don't know if he

00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.880
still tunes into the show or what have you, but.

00:48:00.500 --> 00:48:03.239
I'm going to try. I'm going to try and if it

00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.780
gets to the point to where it just no longer

00:48:05.780 --> 00:48:09.420
seems to be feasible, which I don't think is

00:48:09.420 --> 00:48:11.000
at that point, because there's a lot of love

00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.159
there. I don't know. I just have to keep you

00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:17.619
updated. I just have to keep you updated. I'm

00:48:17.619 --> 00:48:19.320
looking through my topics here to see what else

00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:23.300
I wanted to rant about. We got a little bit more

00:48:23.300 --> 00:48:28.440
time left. We talked about the mental health

00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.559
episode. We talked about Craig. You know, I have

00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:33.940
another childhood friend, too. We talked about

00:48:33.940 --> 00:48:37.500
John. I've dragged John enough. I have another

00:48:37.500 --> 00:48:41.360
childhood friend named Jerome, and he was sort

00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:44.760
of like my other best friend growing up. And

00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:47.400
we haven't spoken in a while. There's a bit of

00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:51.619
a rift there. So I need to figure out what I'm

00:48:51.619 --> 00:48:54.739
doing with that relationship. And that was an

00:48:54.739 --> 00:49:00.760
interesting one because I'm his daughter's godparent.

00:49:01.619 --> 00:49:04.969
But on their side, So I'm the person, I'm the

00:49:04.969 --> 00:49:07.269
reach out person. I'm always the one that's reaching

00:49:07.269 --> 00:49:09.469
out. Hey, haven't heard from you in a while.

00:49:09.489 --> 00:49:11.570
What's going on? Everything good? Hey, how's

00:49:11.570 --> 00:49:13.889
my goddaughter? And I would send her messages

00:49:13.889 --> 00:49:17.710
and stuff like that. I don't get anything back

00:49:17.710 --> 00:49:21.010
in return. You know, and that's frustrating for

00:49:21.010 --> 00:49:23.590
me. I don't want to, where I'm at now, I don't

00:49:23.590 --> 00:49:25.489
want to continue with friendships like that.

00:49:25.650 --> 00:49:28.150
If I got to be the one always reaching out, it's

00:49:28.150 --> 00:49:31.179
not fair. You know, you have all of my addresses.

00:49:31.260 --> 00:49:34.900
You have my contact information. Reach out to

00:49:34.900 --> 00:49:39.679
me sometimes. You know, have Rosalia send me

00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:43.139
a letter or something, or send me a video message

00:49:43.139 --> 00:49:46.079
saying hello, or happy birthday, or go to hell,

00:49:46.179 --> 00:49:50.579
or something. You know, and so I hate to just

00:49:50.579 --> 00:49:52.179
throw that friendship away, especially since

00:49:52.179 --> 00:49:56.570
it's connected to my goddaughter, but... I'm

00:49:56.570 --> 00:49:59.550
just, I don't have the energy to be the one constantly

00:49:59.550 --> 00:50:02.869
reaching out and don't get anything back in return.

00:50:03.389 --> 00:50:06.110
I'm just so over that. That's not a real true

00:50:06.110 --> 00:50:09.809
friendship. And I know every friendship is nuanced

00:50:09.809 --> 00:50:12.170
and everyone's different and has their own way

00:50:12.170 --> 00:50:14.510
of communicating. I'm talking about just basic

00:50:14.510 --> 00:50:18.710
communication here. Don't, if you're friends

00:50:18.710 --> 00:50:20.329
with someone, if you have a friendship that you

00:50:20.329 --> 00:50:23.460
care about, don't... always put it on the other

00:50:23.460 --> 00:50:25.900
person to be the one to check in and reach out.

00:50:25.900 --> 00:50:28.519
Eventually that gets old and they may do it for

00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:33.119
years, maybe even decades, but do something to

00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:38.639
meet that person halfway. So where I am in my

00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:42.920
life now, I have a small circle of friends, a

00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.780
handful of people that I call a friend. Back

00:50:45.780 --> 00:50:48.340
when I was younger and you guys, I've shared

00:50:48.340 --> 00:50:50.119
enough to where you already know the psychology

00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:52.889
behind that, but. I used to think the more friends

00:50:52.889 --> 00:50:55.889
I had, the more popular I was. I just wanted

00:50:55.889 --> 00:50:57.969
to have friends all around. This friend, that

00:50:57.969 --> 00:51:00.070
friend. I got friends in this state. I don't

00:51:00.070 --> 00:51:03.750
care about that stuff anymore. If I can't count

00:51:03.750 --> 00:51:07.710
on you to come help me move, if I can't count

00:51:07.710 --> 00:51:10.269
on you to call and check up on me after you know

00:51:10.269 --> 00:51:14.429
I lost my mom, after you know I just got out

00:51:14.429 --> 00:51:19.900
of a debilitating breakup, or just common courtesy

00:51:19.900 --> 00:51:21.940
to say, hey, hello. I haven't heard from you.

00:51:21.940 --> 00:51:23.760
You doing all right? Where are you at now? Are

00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:26.199
you in the States? Where are you? Have you gone

00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:29.820
to hell yet? I mean, just anything. Give me something.

00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.139
I'll take anything. But just don't put it on

00:51:32.139 --> 00:51:34.980
me to always be that person to reach out, because

00:51:34.980 --> 00:51:38.199
I'm not him anymore. I'm not doing that. I'll

00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:42.139
leave the door open if you want to contact me.

00:51:42.780 --> 00:51:45.000
But Mr. Reach Out All the Time, all of that,

00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.500
I'm done with it. I'm not doing it. I got too

00:51:47.500 --> 00:51:49.099
much other stuff I want to do. I'm at a different

00:51:49.099 --> 00:51:54.019
phase in my life right now. I want peace. And

00:51:54.019 --> 00:51:56.820
I'm not going to be fighting to be anybody's

00:51:56.820 --> 00:52:01.480
friend, you know? So that's just where I am with

00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:05.800
all of that. I think that's a good place to leave

00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.380
it for tonight. I pretty much talked about all

00:52:08.380 --> 00:52:09.840
the stuff that I wanted to talk about. I just

00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:11.900
wanted to have a little bit of fun, have a little

00:52:11.900 --> 00:52:16.469
bit of... conversation that wasn't so uptight.

00:52:17.070 --> 00:52:20.530
So I've enjoyed this. I hope you guys have as

00:52:20.530 --> 00:52:25.170
well. Whether we're talking about toxic friendships,

00:52:25.610 --> 00:52:29.829
emotional boundaries, pay pigs, one of these

00:52:29.829 --> 00:52:31.550
pay pigs are going to send me some money. I don't

00:52:31.550 --> 00:52:33.730
know who it is. Somebody's going to send me a

00:52:33.730 --> 00:52:37.150
random cash app. I just feel it. It may take

00:52:37.150 --> 00:52:38.710
months from now. Somebody's going to send it.

00:52:38.710 --> 00:52:41.460
I'm going to update you guys on it. But, uh,

00:52:41.460 --> 00:52:42.820
regardless of what we're talking about, the goal

00:52:42.820 --> 00:52:44.880
is all the same. It's just to tell the truth,

00:52:45.179 --> 00:52:48.199
to feel it fully, and just to take whatever you

00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:50.940
learn and do something with it. All right? If

00:52:50.940 --> 00:52:52.599
you want to catch the replays of this show, you

00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:56.119
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00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.440
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00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.659
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00:53:01.659 --> 00:53:04.119
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00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:07.139
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00:53:13.300 --> 00:53:16.280
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00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:18.519
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00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:21.679
for life after all the applause and the fanfare.

00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:26.219
And listen, if protecting your piece means changing

00:53:26.219 --> 00:53:28.760
your number or walking away from people that

00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:32.699
you've outgrown or saying no, and saying it full

00:53:32.699 --> 00:53:35.059
throat it with your whole chest then you know

00:53:35.059 --> 00:53:38.320
so be it all right i've enjoyed you guys i hope

00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:40.920
you have too i'm dr andre jerry this is live

00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:43.699
with dr andre jerry and i'll catch you next wednesday

00:53:43.699 --> 00:53:46.900
at 6 p .m eastern same time same truth right

00:53:46.900 --> 00:53:49.320
here on the artist first radio network until

00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:53.079
then stay grounded stay growing and stay out

00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:56.300
of group chats that drain your spirit all right

00:53:56.300 --> 00:54:06.050
good night everybody peace Thanks for watching!
