Dr. Jerry, you got the whole world waiting.
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No point of view, we got the haters confused.
Leave it up to you to bring us all the good news.
Positive vibes and the sex appeal too.
Dr. Andre Jerry, can I get an interview?
You, you, you, you, you, you, you.
Hello, everybody.
Good evening, and thank you for tuning in
to an all new episode of Live with Dr. Andre Jerry.
We're broadcasting live once again
from beautiful, sunny, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia,
where the local time is 3.03 a.m.
Hey, listen, I'm very excited about tonight's show
because this is our 12th episode,
which means Live with Dr. Andre Jerry
has now been on the air for an entire year.
So I think it's safe to say we're here to stay.
We've had many wonderful discussions over the past year,
and I'm looking forward to bringing even more
engaging content and inspirational stories
to the forefront.
Thank you to our listeners across the globe
who've been loyally supporting our show
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and big thanks to Scott Zalasko
and the Artist First Radio Network
for believing in me and allowing me to have this platform.
So to help us commemorate our 12th episode,
tonight we have a special guest joining us
all the way from Lagos, Nigeria.
Now, if you've been tuning into the show over the past year,
you know that Nigeria holds a special place in my heart.
We have many listeners there who follow the show
and tune in live each month.
Shout out to Oscar and my extended family
in Oweri, Orongananya.
So tonight's episode features a young man
that my social media team discovered on Instagram
a couple of months ago.
And after noticing this young man's drive,
his tenacity, his focus,
I became somewhat connected with his vision
and sought to do whatever was in my power
to make sure that he succeeds in his quest
to solve one of Nigeria's biggest challenges.
And as we progress further into the show,
you'll hear more details about what this particular challenge
is that's facing not only Nigeria,
but many other countries.
The young man I'm interviewing tonight
is a multi-talented inventor, businessman,
and proprietor of Mako Technology Unlimited,
and one of the future leaders of Nigeria, I believe.
He studied computer science
at Interlink Polytechnic in Nigeria,
and he's the innovator behind the world's
first fuel-free generator.
Please join me in welcoming to the show Oya Goulai,
Michael Ionsola.
Michael, welcome to the show, sir.
All right, and thanks for having me, Dr. Jerry.
It's nice being here.
Thank you very much.
Yes, Michael.
Absolutely.
It's my pleasure to have you on this evening,
and thank you for taking time out of your schedule
and for staying up so late in the evening
to join us live.
I know it's the one o'clock in the morning there, right?
Yeah, I'm in the morning right now.
This is one o'clock six a.m., and thanks for joining.
Thanks for having me on the show.
Oh, no, thank you.
And listen, there's been a lot of excitement
surrounding your interview.
There's a lot of people that have been contacting me
and looking forward to hearing your story
and learning about your invention,
and we love to highlight adventures on this platform.
So we'll jump right into it.
Please go ahead and just take a moment
and tell our listeners about yourself, please.
All right.
My name is Oyokulli Michael Ayenshala.
I'm a multi-talented inventor, a businessman.
I'm also a multi-talented inventor.
I am the chief executive officer of Micro Technology Limited,
a tech company in Nigeria that deals with innovation
and technologies and solving general issues
affecting the society and communities.
So I was born and brought up in Lagos State, Nigeria.
My dad actually came from Ibado, a state in Nigeria
called Oyokute, yes, of which my mom is from Badagri,
a state in Nigeria as well, which is Lagos.
So I'm the sixth in my family.
Yeah, I'm the sixth kid in my family.
So I like, it's good to be here with Dr. Andijerri.
Thanks for having me and giving me these.
I wanna thank God.
I wanna thank Dr. Andijerri before going further
because it's kind of, it's very rare
you see people giving you kind of opportunity
to showcase yourself to the world.
Dr. Andijerri, I wanna say a big thank you.
I wanna say a big thank you.
So that's how the whole thing went.
Like, it's not very easy coming up,
like growing in a family of six.
At some point, my dad and mom got separated,
things become more worse.
So, you know, striving hard is not easy.
It's not easy as a Nigerian.
It's a keep growing up from Nigeria, it's not easy.
So I think that's just, I don't know,
that's just for as in holy, for now, for now, for now.
Yes.
Dr. Andijerri.
Well, yes, well, thank you for taking a moment
to introduce yourself to our audience.
You mentioned that you grew up in Lagos,
which is not only the economic hub of Nigeria,
but also I believe the most populous city in Nigeria.
And I was reading through your story and you mentioned
that there wasn't a lot of sufficient electricity
for daily activities and so forth.
Is this, from my understanding,
this is due to what's referred to as load shedding,
where the power company deliberately cuts off electricity
to preserve power or keep the power supply infrastructure
from going over capacity.
Is that the correct understanding of the issue in Nigeria?
Yes, current things happening in Nigeria currently
is about power issue, power blockout,
which has been the problem ever, even since I was give birth to.
Ever since I was born, the problem has been there.
Often the moment it's, I can't say it's getting worse.
What makes it worse is it was just like there's a hike
in petroleum, these PMFs, in which people use
and even managing to own generators
as alternative power supply.
You know, they think there's a subsidy removal
by the current president, president Bola Med, Senubu.
So there's a subsidy removal going on,
which makes petrol much more expensive.
So people not having access to electricity
makes the whole thing worse currently in Nigeria.
And to fuel car disease is kind of very stressful.
It's not very encouraging.
Like most would take to work with expensive means
of transportation and fuel as well.
Okay, so that's interesting that, you know,
even over the years there haven't been,
but only incremental improvement
in the availability of power supply.
And then also you mentioned the price of fuel
also going up as well.
So that's further causing issues there.
And I know it has to be extremely frustrating
to have to deal with, you know, rolling blackouts
and prolonged periods where there's no power.
We're so spoiled in the United States, you know,
we're just not accustomed to those types of inconveniences.
And yet this is something that seems to be a common
everyday occurrence in Nigeria and many other countries.
Access to power and electricity is still, you know,
considered a luxury in many places around the world,
it seems.
Let me ask you this, since there's been, you know,
very little incremental improvement to this reliable,
consistent power and the demand still being high,
how long has you been working on your particular invention?
Like this was something that you started working on
in your early teens or when did you first start working
on your project here?
It started 2010, 2010 back in the days
when I was still at Ibadon.
Then I was still at Ibadon.
So it was actually 13 years back, 13 years back.
Okay, wow.
And I know that during that time you've had
a number of failures.
Can you kind of walk us through that moment
in terms of this past 10 to 13 years
and the attempts that you maybe haven't worked
to get your prototype and maybe had some failure
along the way, how are you able to persevere
through those failures and what did you learn from those?
During those years, what makes it last to that extent
is due to financial constraints.
Due to financial constraints, you know, like I said,
my dad and mom who got separated, they got a divorce.
So it makes the whole thing go to rust.
So you know, searching for the funds and all is not easy
after the 32.
So it's a challenging year.
Due to financial constraints, it shouldn't take less
than a few months, but it has to take me close
to 13 good years.
And during these years, it doesn't come easy.
I have more than 15 failed experiments.
Oh wow.
15 failed experiments, 15 failed experiments.
Each time I tried, I moved closer.
It's kind of very challenging, but for the fact
that I still trust the process, I still kept on trying
despite wasting funds, wasting resources, wasting energy.
And I can't really say it's a waste of time
because it's actually pay off.
Well, I mean, you're in good company.
There's no shame in having failed attempts.
The important thing is that you kept trying.
You know, there have been many notable adventures
that I know of that have failed numerous times
before they were successful with their invention.
Thomas Edison, he made thousands of attempts
at the light bulb before he was successful.
You also have the inventor of the telephone,
Alexander Graham Bell.
He failed numerous times before he found
a prototype that worked.
And one of my favorite examples, James Dyson,
he's the inventor of the vacuum cleaner.
He had 5,000 failed prototypes.
So like I said, you're in good company there,
but the important thing is that you persevered
through that and that you found a way
to having a working prototype.
Now that you have a working prototype in place,
what are some of the new challenges
in terms of getting your product out there to customers?
Because from what I understand, you have a lot of orders
that are pending and I know you're working
to try to fulfill those as much as possible.
One of the challenges is one, due to financial constraints,
then secondly, on documentations.
You know, most of some things have to be properly done
and done in a legal way.
It doesn't have to jump into any business,
into any innovations.
And in terms of legal rights and all,
if care is not taken, you might lose your rights.
You might lose everything about it.
So financial constraint makes it to delay some process
of which is one of the challenges I'm facing
and a site for mass production.
For mass production, lucky enough,
we've gotten a permanent site,
still at a developmental stage,
like it's still underdeveloped.
So we're still trying to bring all these things,
trying to put some things in place,
trying to push many things in order.
And again, in terms of materials,
they don't come easy, you know?
You need to source for materials,
you need to source for standard materials.
Because during my prototype,
most of the materials I use are,
they are scrap materials, they are local materials
I got around and I got around from dump sites.
I got them from dump sites just to put them together,
just to prove to the world, oh, this actually works.
It actually works this way, you know?
It's not very easy.
And during this time, I'm searching for these materials.
I'm into dispatch riding,
which is in Nigeria we call it Okada riding, Okada.
So, you know, carrying passengers from one place
to another at the end of the trip,
they give you a token, you know?
So, you know.
Right, so that's how you've been funding your projects.
Yes, exactly, that's how I've been funding the project,
funding the prototype.
So the moment the prototype went viral,
so a lot of people from diasporas,
a lot of individuals, a lot of NGOs,
they've been calling, most of them sending donations.
So that is why it was where it was today,
like the improvement you're seeing today
is all because of God, is all because of the,
our well-wishers, is because of the supporters as well.
So I give kudos to them, I give kudos to God as well.
It's all been easy.
Yeah, well, my hat is off to you
for continuing to do the right thing.
I know there are a lot of many different paths
you could have took in terms of, you know,
taking care of yourself and finding funding
for your business, but I admire the hard work aspect
of what you do, and that's one of the great things
about your story I absolutely love
is your decision to invest in yourself
and also to pursue your education.
And I understand that after completing
your secondary education, that's when you came to Lagos
and you found work on a, that word, Okada, Okada Rider.
I know Obi is laughing at you right now,
but it's all good.
Yeah, so, you know, if you could speak a little bit
about that and kind of just build on that point.
Yeah, of course.
Like I said, it's up on years back
where my dad and mom are like, they got divorced,
so, you know, at some point, it got worse for,
I and my mom, after we can stay with you here,
after we can stay, my dad is actually listening,
so, like, so we had to go and stay
with his elder brother at Ibadan.
So from there, you know, Lagos is still,
in terms of electricity, Lagos is still manageable
compared to Ibadan.
So the moment, the place that I went to is at Ibadan,
it's a state in Nigeria, aside Lagos,
just like a state in Nigeria,
but Lagos is more civilized than Ibadan.
So where I went to is kind of a very remote area,
it's not very wide, but you don't have electricity.
There's actually wires, there's actually poles,
but they're not supplying electricity.
So if care is not taking some uses as a, you know,
it's not supplying electricity.
You can actually just, you know, touch it with your bare hands,
it doesn't shock, it's not even supplying it.
So, you know, coming from Lagos,
I'm still even enjoying a little as electricity I know,
you know, it's not comfortable for me,
not being able to watch TV, cartoons,
and my dad, Jezebel, is a farmer.
I helped him most of the time in farms.
The little time I had is the midnight
when I had to read, I had to study.
So like, I can't take it anymore.
I went to school, I messaged my physician,
she was like, wow, this is what is going on,
this is what I had, this is the advice,
this is what I had in mind in doing,
was like, wow, it's a very good idea.
If you can put it into practice,
if you can go deeper, and I'm the type of person like,
I love solving general issues,
I love solving problems affecting the society
with the little way I can.
So this pushed me, this motivates me into like,
okay, giving it a shot, giving it a try.
So I went back home and informed my dad, Jezebel,
I was like, wow, it's a very good idea,
but at this time, you know, there's nothing I can do,
this is a financial aspect.
So after finishing my secondary school work,
I was in high school, so I came back to Lagos.
So things were still the way it was for my mom,
it was still hard, after I was 72 years.
So like, most of the people around me,
they're riding bikes, I was like,
I was like, oh, can I join?
Most of them, like, they're riding bikes,
which is Okada motorcycle, something similar to this,
I tried it, I don't know if you have it over there in the US,
but in Lagos there, we have this part, we have Okada,
whereby you carried people from one destination to another.
So at the end of your trip, they give you money, you know?
So I started riding this bike,
so I started riding this bike from there, I was like, no.
So I still kept on, from this savings from the bike,
I tried saving some parts to bring the innovation
into existence, you know?
I started giving up, but thinking of it,
but I don't think of where I left and how I left the place,
don't want me to give up, because I was like, no,
people are like, really going through a lot,
without having access to electricity,
it's kind of very challenging, it's kind of, it's so touching.
So I, this motivates me, even riding bike, you know,
riding bike is kind of, it's not a very lucrative job,
it's a kind of job that comes with looking unkempt, you know?
You need to look tattered, because even though you tried
looking good, looking nice, the dust will stain,
even though you're putting on white, you're putting on Thai,
whatever, it's going to stain it,
before you know your face are covered with dust, you know?
I still have to continue trying it, I was like, oh, at this point,
I need to get a formal education, just to push this,
just to, you know, to bring this, to support this innovation,
because you might, there's different between having an idea
and going to school, going to higher education,
to learn more about the stuff, to develop your skill,
to add more to your knowledge, so from this, I enrol,
I gain admission into Intellectual Polytechnic,
there I studied Computer Science, it's not actually
relating to anything engineering, but for the fact that
I have this dream way back, with the experience I have in high education,
I put them in place, put them together, on the long run,
the effort paid off, you know, they assisted me in this,
bringing this innovation into existence, so it's not,
I didn't actually get it right, but each time I tried,
I moved closer, I moved closer, the prototype I got is actually
a very big one in the first place, it's a very big one,
very big one, it's very heavy, you know, each time I tried
and failed, it's not very easy, you know, any money from
this risky business, this, this, Ocala writing comes with
many risks, accidents, rain falling, you know, under the sun,
under the rain, you know, there's a certain time I have this accident,
I don't have this choice than to continue riding the bike
despite the wound on my left leg, after just trying,
just treating it as a chemist at the roadside,
then continue driving this bike, you know, there are a lot of challenges,
imagine you saving...
It's not glamorous work at all, it's not glamorous, it's a lot of hard work,
is what I'm hearing, and you know, as I listen to you talk about this,
you know, your life and your endeavours, the recurring thing that I'm hearing is
dedication and work ethic, you know, and among many of the youth in Nigeria today,
there seems to be like this fascination with fast money and instant success
and you know, not enough emphasis on hard work or appreciation for hard work.
Was there ever a time where you felt pressured to join your peers in this,
you know, flashy lifestyle and schemes to get rich quick?
Were you ever pressured at any point to fall prey to that?
I have been pressured, I have many like, you know, most of my friends,
most then they're into this internet fraud,
like most of them, I tried approaching some of them, they were like,
no, you need to join us, I said, no, I'm not going to do this, I'm not going to do this.
So I kept on driving this bike after the 1972 year, you know, after keep trying,
you know, not being able to dress like my peers do, not being able to buy the kind of phones they use,
not being able to live the kind of lifestyle, go to clubs, you know,
for the fact that I have the focus, I kept on, I kept on, you know,
hustling, I never looked at those, I never let it distract me for once,
so I'm always connected with whatever I have.
What was in my mind is just about investing in myself.
Each time I even make money, I try to invest in the project,
I rather try and feel rather than going after losers.
Yeah, you made the right decision because you're really not missing out on anything.
I know that's a huge distraction.
You see your friends, they're dressing in latest fashions,
and they're out clubbing, and they're enjoying their youth,
but I like how you keep your vision in front of you, your goal in mind.
You have a vision and goal in place,
and you're putting money aside towards your prototypes and your inventions,
so all that stuff is stuff that's going to matter in the long run.
I love that you don't get distracted by any of that stuff,
so hats off to you on that,
and I definitely want you to keep going at the pace that you're going.
I know there are a lot of difficult and tough days,
but if you just keep your vision ahead of you,
it'll definitely kind of propel you forward and keep you from getting distracted.
We're at the midpoint for the show, so I think I want to go ahead and take a break,
and when we come back, we're going to talk more about your actual invention,
and I want you to kind of dive into how it actually works,
because a lot of people don't, especially if they're not technically inclined,
they don't really understand the science behind your generator,
so I want you to talk more about that.
We're going to go ahead and take a break now,
and when we return, we'll talk more with Oyen Koule.
We'll be right back.
All right.
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they needed something in order. No, no, no, no. You need to cool down, give them quality,
give them what's as in, you made them enjoy their money like, oh, they're actually paying
for this, they actually enjoy your service. Not what's going to damage your image, not
what's going to damage the image of the company.
Somewhere around there, I went to this stock exchange in Nigeria, Lagos, Nigeria, you know,
the advice I was given was like, oh, you go and work on your updates, you go and work
on your stuff. Don't be in haste to sell the, just to, don't say because people are rushing
their products simply because fuel is very expensive. You work on your upgrade. If you're
making smaller capacity, work on bigger capacity because sooner or later, people are going
to need more power. So if you don't work on your capacity, how are you going to sell them?
So which was one of the reasons. So hopefully very soon, mass production is going to kick
off by good reason. Oh, it definitely will by God's grace. So
definitely stay focused and don't allow people to rush, you know, your quality. Quality is
more important than getting something out there that you know is not 100% up to your
standard. So definitely, you know, stay focused on everything with that. I want to talk a
little bit, not too much, but I know there are some detractors out there. What are you
doing to kind of inoculate and protect yourself from scammers and fraudulent investors and
just bad advisors that are trying to steer you in the wrong direction? What are you doing
to keep yourself inoculated from that type of stuff?
One of the things was what is causing the delay. One of the measures I'm putting in
place for investors that has this mindset of stealing the innovations is that was why
I'm not putting it out there. So many people claim they've done this, they do that, but
no result, no one has come out openly, no one is in function. They're actually waiting
for yours. I have a job, someone is offering me millions just to lay it underneath. Do
you imagine what they're going to do with it without you, you know, making it, documenting
it, making sure you have the full and proper legal rights to your innovations? You know,
I know what I, not that I didn't needed money or I didn't needed a good life or art to,
you know, discipline myself to make sure I complete all these procedures, make sure I
complete all these prototypes, make sure they are up to standard. And in terms of, at somewhere
around last year, I received, you know, there are people coming in as trades and all. The
only thing I just feel like I don't assess one-on-one interactions with people outside
the media houses for now. So one of those things, what I've been putting in this place,
because it's very hard for you to know who is who. That's the truth. But as for media
houses, you know, their image and everything is on the line and they are not ready to tarnish
it. So that's in terms of the, yeah, in terms of the, the, the measure I put in place for,
you know, those who try to steal the innovation is that I'm not putting it out there because
I know I'm not ready for this. I have a couple of weeks to go before it's out there, you
know, you need to be fully ready. Not that you just sell some out and you're not fully
ready before you know they will sue you for your innovations. So one has to be very careful.
Don't listen to the crowd. Don't listen to the critics. Make sure you take your time.
If not, you lose everything. You lose her.
That's exactly right. So I'm glad that you're measuring your approach and that you don't
allow yourself to kind of get caught up in, you know, getting off course. I want to ask
you this just out of curiosity and I definitely don't want you to give out any proprietary
secrets or anything like that. But for those who are less technically or technically challenged,
can you explain in layman's terms how your generator works and what actually it does?
Like I said, when I started this innovation, many people don't believe me. They believe
maybe I'm trying to spam them from little tokens. It actually looks crazy, you know.
Yeah, that's the truth. Many think, oh, Omar is like, you're running my, you need to visit
the psychiatrist's office. You know, I was like, it's actually works. I'm the type of
person, most of my prototypes are done off and like I'm not saying I'm kind of a genius.
They're done in the brain. They're done in the mind. Actually, I don't really know that
I don't have, I'm the type that I'm an introvert. I actually stay alone. I think a lot. I meditate
a lot, you know. I tell people about this, they say, Omar, you just go and sit down.
One thing is like you're running mad. How will you tell me a generator will not be running
fuel on fuel or diesel or gas or on coal? I was like, it actually works. You know, I
get to convince people like, okay, look at your normal TV set, your normal television.
When decided, it's in form of black and white. I don't know if you ever used white and black
television. Yes. Dr. Jerry, you use something like that? So as time goes on, there's an
upgrade. They did a colored one. As time goes on, they do a LED, sorry, a plasma TV, which
is a flat screen. As time goes on, they feel that, oh, that one is consuming more light.
They did a light one, which is called a LED TV. As time goes on, what I'm actually saying
is improvement is going on, technology is going on. It's not relenting on a single face.
The world itself is reflecting. It's not on the spot. So likewise, something has happened
with Jen. So expect Jen to be on the stage right from day one. I do tell people that
there are one million solutions to a particular problem. If you don't want to use your engine,
look at the Showa Bay. Look at our dam. You know a dam? Yes, water turns in the turbine.
They are not actually using the engine, but they use water. So you can use any means to
give you what you want. So this one is actually a Showa Bay. At first, it actually uses the
battery, but due to critics, I have to agree that, oh, I don't want this thing to use the
battery. I tried convincing people that, oh, every Jen uses the battery to start. They
said, no, this is an inverter. I said, okay, I'm going to prove it to you. This is not
an inverter, and it's not going to use any form of battery. So I kept on. It's a kind
of everybody knows that a generator has its two parts, the mechanical aspect and the electrical
aspect. What do I have a problem mostly is the mechanical aspect. The electrical aspect
is the alternator. So that's why you have your coil, you have a stator coil, and you
have your armature. That's the major component. What I did was I built my own engine. I put
some components together for my own engine and make sure it doesn't consume for generator
electricity. This is what I want to know. You mentioned earlier that you use scrap materials
for your design. Because you're using scrap materials or whatever materials are available,
how are you able to make sure that you have continuity in your design? Does that impact
how each unit works or each generator works because you're using different materials
from different places? Yeah, using scrap materials does not mean generator is not working, does
not mean it's not giving me the result I wanted. The only thing, the only challenges I have
with scrap materials is that they are not beautiful enough, they are not built for the
purpose, and they are not stronger. So with scrap materials, they're actually making use
of the materials. I make use of tires, I made use of, most of the materials, they are not
required materials, they are just available materials. So they can be stronger. That's
the only difference between scrap materials and standard materials is that it's not as
strong as the required materials they specially designed for you and for its purpose. So hopefully
we are talking to some manufacturers to get us exactly what we needed just to make sure
this thing is up to date and what is used for the purposes. Will you deliver your product
to a customer? Do you provide them some type of warranty or guarantee or if they have issues
with it? Is there a service component to it? Of course, of course, of course, of course.
Like it's kind of, it's just like your regular generator, just like a diesel and petrol generator.
They're very strong. This is not solar, this is not inverter. It's as we standard, that
was I'll tell you, I've not been selling it out. I intentionally hold it down just to
make sure I made use of standard materials and of which is what I've gotten for now.
Do you understand what I'm saying? So I'm not saying because people needed it, oh, there's
a panic, there's a panic bike, there's people are rushing you, you give them what is wrong,
so I've been able to source for standard materials. I've been able to source for required materials
to get the job done. And with this, I can give you a chance that, oh, this is going
to give you one year warranty without having any thoughts. So and the lifespan for it before
at the time it was actually for it has increased to eight to nine years. But the minimum warranty
for now, up to more than nine years, depending on material, you know, any mechanism, any
any generator, you don't over loop them. So people don't know how to maintain it. But
under normal circumstances, under normal maintenance, under normal usage without abusing it, it
will exceed more than nine years of lifespan. I mean lifespan. But before it's developed
there, and this type of gen is not the type that developed for easily because combustion
is not taking place is not like your regular generator doesn't use this well. The mechanical
component is not as much as what to be. So the maintenance is very low. They are lower.
Yes. So they hardly got spoiled. So I can give you the guarantee of one year and lifespan
of like nine to 10 years. Well, that's a significant warranty period for this type of product.
Are there any incubators or other Nigerian startup hubs that have offered assistance
to you or offered a space for you to work? Yeah, like I said, I acquired a place not
quite long. It's actually from donations. But I still have to develop it. So we are
trying to work on the permanent site. Like I said, hopefully very soon by God's grace,
mass production will get started this year. In fact, I don't want to give you exact time.
But all I can tell you for now is this day is my next week, my next two weeks, maybe
a month time. But all I can show you that this year, mass production is going to take
place. I see. All right. Well, this is another question that I had and actually a few of
these came in from some people that wrote into me about the show. They are curious as
to as you move forward into the rest of the year, what primary goals do you have for the
development promotion of your generator? Like I said, it's not something like I said, with
time I'm going to need investors. Like I said, the upgrade does not use a single capacity.
As it stands, we can build from 1 kVA to 50 kVA. It's not very easy for a single person,
for a single individual, for a single company to meet with those capacities with different
sections. I don't know if I'm saying the pageri. So in coming years, I foresee like most of
the people are getting to use this product because it is a kind of a very good one. It's
not just Nigeria, but Africa itself, there's need for power all over the places. So I foresee
them using this product, adapting, swapping, and sorry, they are posting into using a full
free generator. Understood. I want to get to another question that came in about a week
ago via email. This one reads, how has the Nigerian government supported or hindered
your efforts to get funded or to get regulated? Have they made it easy, difficult? What's
been your experience there? I have to be honest with you. No government
agencies have reached out, but lots of NGOs have reached out. A lot of people, Nigerians
from diasporas have reached out. A lot of individuals have reached out to support St.
Donations and to become ROI investors. But one of the laws the current president,
Senator Bola made, Senovo made, which is very okay and which is very good for this innovation.
It's like it passed the power bill for individuals to be able to generate electricity on their own.
So that was the area that I feel that the government has really impacted the innovations,
has really given a green light on the innovation as well. But none of the government agencies
have reached out to partner or to take it up from there, just to none for now.
Yes. And what other ways do you feel like your generator will bring positive changes to Nigeria?
We know that it will help with making sure that there's affordable and consistent power,
but are there other potential positive aspects like potential job creation or stimulating the
economy? Can you talk a little bit about other initiatives that it may help to alleviate?
All right. The first one is going to bring an easy life to people, it's going to bring change.
People are going to save more. I have some customers, some people who spend about 10,000
Naira on four every day and close to 300,000 Naira for four every month. With this revenue,
they will be able to save enough money. Most of the businesses in Nigeria and Africa as a whole,
some collapse due to power failure, like they're using their profit to purchase
these. Do you understand what I'm saying? So like I said, we have it in mind of training more than
500,000 Nigerian youth in repairing this stuff. We have it in mind of empowering them in a few
months to come and probably three years to come. But we have it in mind this year, by God's grace,
as soon as mass production started, you need to empower people to be able to repair this. It also
creates more job opportunities for the youth, for the unemployed. It's going to bring a drastic change
into the Nigerian economy as well because people are leaving, they have access to social amenities,
their business is going smoothly as a result of steady alternative power supply.
I can broadly tell you that a lot of development will be coming in. In fact,
a lot of private investors will be coming into the country as well.
Yeah, and I love that it's going to create an opportunity to hire young people and also
get them back interested in technical aspects and in science and innovation and maybe less
so with this quick money-making type culture that we've been seeing over the past decade or so.
This is a good opportunity for you to mentor young people as well because I'm sure you have
a lot of young people that are looking up to you and asking about your projects, wanting to be a
part of it, so that has to be exciting. Of course, of course. There are a lot of people,
a lot of people that, like I said, the projects, some plans are in place just to employ the youth
to empower them. Like I said, this kind of gen is very unique. You need to teach people how to
repair it just in case on the long run, maybe after a year, two years, it's going to develop
a little force, they will be able to take up the responsibility. It's to reduce unemployment in
Nigeria, it's to reduce unemployment in Africa as a whole simply because you've trained more than
500,000 youths and more. 500,000 youth training other people, multiplying that is about millions
of people empowered and benefiting from these innovations as well. I love that. As we get
closer to the end of the show, I want you to, for those who are interested in learning more about
your work and potentially collaborating with you as well, what's the best way for them to get in
contact with you or your team? Yeah, the best way to get in touch with me is Instagram,
at Bannerboy1, B-A, Bannerboy is spelling B-A-N-N-A-R-B-O-I-1, Bannerboy1, same thing as Twitter,
Bannerboy1, B-A-N-N-A-R-O-I, B-A-N-N-A-R-B-O-I-1, Bannerboy1. So you can send me a message on Facebook,
Michael Oyokunle-Anyashola. I also have a also maybe the VI call, direct call like 08105803658.
Yes, and you have WhatsApp as well and I know we communicate back and forth on that too.
So definitely. Michael, listen, thank you so much for coming on the show today. I definitely wish you
all the best and much success with your invention. And I have no doubt that you're, you know, well on
your way to leaving your marketing history and becoming a future power player and leader of
Nigeria. So thank you so much for coming on the show today. Thank you, Dupu Jerry, for giving me
the opportunity. First time in the West Town world, I want to say a big thank you. I want to say big
thank you to the listeners. A big thanks for staying tuned, staying tuned. Thanks for taking
your time. Thanks for taking your energy. You know, I want to say a big thank you. And to
Dupu Jerry, more progress and more success coming your way. Thank you, sir. Thank you. And I'm so
proud of you. Keep up the good work. Thank you to all of our listeners today. Whatever part of the
world you're tuning in from this evening, I definitely appreciate your listenership so very
much. Be sure to tune in for the next episode of Live with Dr. Andre Jerry. It will air on August
the 23rd at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. I'll be joined by Charlotte Realtor, Adria Massey,
and mortgage broker, Kaishel Bozier. And they'll be discussing the current state of the Howie
Market and interest rates. That'll be right here on the RS First Rail Network. But that's
our show for tonight. Good night, everybody. And again, thank you for tuning in.
All right. Thank you very much, Dupu Jerry.
Thank you.