1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,760 Dr. Jerry, you got the whole world waiting. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,520 Been ready for you to start the conversation. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,040 No point of view, we got the haters confused. 4 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:14,480 Leave it up to you to bring us all the good news. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,600 Positive vibes and the sex appeal too. 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,080 Dr. Andre Jerry, can I get an interview? 7 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:24,160 You, you, you, you, you, you, you. 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,240 Hello, everybody. 9 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:27,280 Good evening, and thank you for tuning in 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,360 to an all new episode of Live with Dr. Andre Jerry. 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,640 We're broadcasting live once again 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,920 from beautiful, sunny, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,840 where the local time is 3.03 a.m. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,440 Hey, listen, I'm very excited about tonight's show 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,320 because this is our 12th episode, 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,200 which means Live with Dr. Andre Jerry 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,640 has now been on the air for an entire year. 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,240 So I think it's safe to say we're here to stay. 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,400 We've had many wonderful discussions over the past year, 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,240 and I'm looking forward to bringing even more 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,320 engaging content and inspirational stories 22 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:05,560 to the forefront. 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,720 Thank you to our listeners across the globe 24 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,320 who've been loyally supporting our show 25 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:13,320 and promoting us on their various social media, 26 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:15,360 and big thanks to Scott Zalasko 27 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,320 and the Artist First Radio Network 28 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:21,160 for believing in me and allowing me to have this platform. 29 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,520 So to help us commemorate our 12th episode, 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,720 tonight we have a special guest joining us 31 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,600 all the way from Lagos, Nigeria. 32 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,320 Now, if you've been tuning into the show over the past year, 33 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:37,000 you know that Nigeria holds a special place in my heart. 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,040 We have many listeners there who follow the show 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,680 and tune in live each month. 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,600 Shout out to Oscar and my extended family 37 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,240 in Oweri, Orongananya. 38 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,400 So tonight's episode features a young man 39 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,040 that my social media team discovered on Instagram 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,800 a couple of months ago. 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,360 And after noticing this young man's drive, 42 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,680 his tenacity, his focus, 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,640 I became somewhat connected with his vision 44 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,000 and sought to do whatever was in my power 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,640 to make sure that he succeeds in his quest 46 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:14,800 to solve one of Nigeria's biggest challenges. 47 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,400 And as we progress further into the show, 48 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,880 you'll hear more details about what this particular challenge 49 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,800 is that's facing not only Nigeria, 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,920 but many other countries. 51 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:26,840 The young man I'm interviewing tonight 52 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,120 is a multi-talented inventor, businessman, 53 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,800 and proprietor of Mako Technology Unlimited, 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,840 and one of the future leaders of Nigeria, I believe. 55 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,320 He studied computer science 56 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,160 at Interlink Polytechnic in Nigeria, 57 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,640 and he's the innovator behind the world's 58 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:48,360 first fuel-free generator. 59 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,120 Please join me in welcoming to the show Oya Goulai, 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,720 Michael Ionsola. 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,360 Michael, welcome to the show, sir. 62 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,200 All right, and thanks for having me, Dr. Jerry. 63 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,720 It's nice being here. 64 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Thank you very much. 65 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,160 Yes, Michael. 66 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,280 Absolutely. 67 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,440 It's my pleasure to have you on this evening, 68 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,520 and thank you for taking time out of your schedule 69 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,800 and for staying up so late in the evening 70 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,440 to join us live. 71 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,600 I know it's the one o'clock in the morning there, right? 72 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,440 Yeah, I'm in the morning right now. 73 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,280 This is one o'clock six a.m., and thanks for joining. 74 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,960 Thanks for having me on the show. 75 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,880 Oh, no, thank you. 76 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,280 And listen, there's been a lot of excitement 77 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,520 surrounding your interview. 78 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,840 There's a lot of people that have been contacting me 79 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,920 and looking forward to hearing your story 80 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,080 and learning about your invention, 81 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,680 and we love to highlight adventures on this platform. 82 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,560 So we'll jump right into it. 83 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Please go ahead and just take a moment 84 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,000 and tell our listeners about yourself, please. 85 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,200 All right. 86 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,680 My name is Oyokulli Michael Ayenshala. 87 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,440 I'm a multi-talented inventor, a businessman. 88 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,960 I'm also a multi-talented inventor. 89 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,920 I am the chief executive officer of Micro Technology Limited, 90 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,000 a tech company in Nigeria that deals with innovation 91 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,160 and technologies and solving general issues 92 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,240 affecting the society and communities. 93 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:24,480 So I was born and brought up in Lagos State, Nigeria. 94 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,760 My dad actually came from Ibado, a state in Nigeria 95 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,240 called Oyokute, yes, of which my mom is from Badagri, 96 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,040 a state in Nigeria as well, which is Lagos. 97 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,560 So I'm the sixth in my family. 98 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,040 Yeah, I'm the sixth kid in my family. 99 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:54,040 So I like, it's good to be here with Dr. Andijerri. 100 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Thanks for having me and giving me these. 101 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,760 I wanna thank God. 102 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,000 I wanna thank Dr. Andijerri before going further 103 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,160 because it's kind of, it's very rare 104 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,040 you see people giving you kind of opportunity 105 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,600 to showcase yourself to the world. 106 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,120 Dr. Andijerri, I wanna say a big thank you. 107 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,640 I wanna say a big thank you. 108 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,640 So that's how the whole thing went. 109 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,200 Like, it's not very easy coming up, 110 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,880 like growing in a family of six. 111 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,200 At some point, my dad and mom got separated, 112 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,920 things become more worse. 113 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,840 So, you know, striving hard is not easy. 114 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:36,000 It's not easy as a Nigerian. 115 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,080 It's a keep growing up from Nigeria, it's not easy. 116 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,680 So I think that's just, I don't know, 117 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,680 that's just for as in holy, for now, for now, for now. 118 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,240 Yes. 119 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,080 Dr. Andijerri. 120 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Well, yes, well, thank you for taking a moment 121 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,000 to introduce yourself to our audience. 122 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,720 You mentioned that you grew up in Lagos, 123 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,560 which is not only the economic hub of Nigeria, 124 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,000 but also I believe the most populous city in Nigeria. 125 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,240 And I was reading through your story and you mentioned 126 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,920 that there wasn't a lot of sufficient electricity 127 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,800 for daily activities and so forth. 128 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,040 Is this, from my understanding, 129 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,440 this is due to what's referred to as load shedding, 130 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,200 where the power company deliberately cuts off electricity 131 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,200 to preserve power or keep the power supply infrastructure 132 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,920 from going over capacity. 133 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,880 Is that the correct understanding of the issue in Nigeria? 134 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,640 Yes, current things happening in Nigeria currently 135 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,200 is about power issue, power blockout, 136 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,400 which has been the problem ever, even since I was give birth to. 137 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,800 Ever since I was born, the problem has been there. 138 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,040 Often the moment it's, I can't say it's getting worse. 139 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,000 What makes it worse is it was just like there's a hike 140 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,000 in petroleum, these PMFs, in which people use 141 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,520 and even managing to own generators 142 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,560 as alternative power supply. 143 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,320 You know, they think there's a subsidy removal 144 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,320 by the current president, president Bola Med, Senubu. 145 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,920 So there's a subsidy removal going on, 146 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,240 which makes petrol much more expensive. 147 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,040 So people not having access to electricity 148 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,680 makes the whole thing worse currently in Nigeria. 149 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,680 And to fuel car disease is kind of very stressful. 150 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,640 It's not very encouraging. 151 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,640 Like most would take to work with expensive means 152 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,720 of transportation and fuel as well. 153 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,360 Okay, so that's interesting that, you know, 154 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,880 even over the years there haven't been, 155 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,040 but only incremental improvement 156 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,560 in the availability of power supply. 157 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,320 And then also you mentioned the price of fuel 158 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,600 also going up as well. 159 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,600 So that's further causing issues there. 160 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,160 And I know it has to be extremely frustrating 161 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,880 to have to deal with, you know, rolling blackouts 162 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,880 and prolonged periods where there's no power. 163 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,880 We're so spoiled in the United States, you know, 164 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,400 we're just not accustomed to those types of inconveniences. 165 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,360 And yet this is something that seems to be a common 166 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,800 everyday occurrence in Nigeria and many other countries. 167 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,640 Access to power and electricity is still, you know, 168 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,040 considered a luxury in many places around the world, 169 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:45,880 it seems. 170 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,480 Let me ask you this, since there's been, you know, 171 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,320 very little incremental improvement to this reliable, 172 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,760 consistent power and the demand still being high, 173 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,520 how long has you been working on your particular invention? 174 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,560 Like this was something that you started working on 175 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:12,480 in your early teens or when did you first start working 176 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,000 on your project here? 177 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,200 It started 2010, 2010 back in the days 178 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,720 when I was still at Ibadon. 179 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,560 Then I was still at Ibadon. 180 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:26,560 So it was actually 13 years back, 13 years back. 181 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,240 Okay, wow. 182 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,600 And I know that during that time you've had 183 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,760 a number of failures. 184 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,880 Can you kind of walk us through that moment 185 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,720 in terms of this past 10 to 13 years 186 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,720 and the attempts that you maybe haven't worked 187 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,640 to get your prototype and maybe had some failure 188 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,240 along the way, how are you able to persevere 189 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,480 through those failures and what did you learn from those? 190 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,120 During those years, what makes it last to that extent 191 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,040 is due to financial constraints. 192 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,360 Due to financial constraints, you know, like I said, 193 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:14,080 my dad and mom who got separated, they got a divorce. 194 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,280 So it makes the whole thing go to rust. 195 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,280 So you know, searching for the funds and all is not easy 196 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:23,680 after the 32. 197 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:25,880 So it's a challenging year. 198 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,600 Due to financial constraints, it shouldn't take less 199 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,280 than a few months, but it has to take me close 200 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,600 to 13 good years. 201 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,040 And during these years, it doesn't come easy. 202 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,080 I have more than 15 failed experiments. 203 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:43,840 Oh wow. 204 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,440 15 failed experiments, 15 failed experiments. 205 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:51,440 Each time I tried, I moved closer. 206 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,840 It's kind of very challenging, but for the fact 207 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,040 that I still trust the process, I still kept on trying 208 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,680 despite wasting funds, wasting resources, wasting energy. 209 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:06,920 And I can't really say it's a waste of time 210 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,880 because it's actually pay off. 211 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,000 Well, I mean, you're in good company. 212 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,000 There's no shame in having failed attempts. 213 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,200 The important thing is that you kept trying. 214 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,320 You know, there have been many notable adventures 215 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,760 that I know of that have failed numerous times 216 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,440 before they were successful with their invention. 217 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:35,520 Thomas Edison, he made thousands of attempts 218 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,000 at the light bulb before he was successful. 219 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,880 You also have the inventor of the telephone, 220 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,120 Alexander Graham Bell. 221 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,520 He failed numerous times before he found 222 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,440 a prototype that worked. 223 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,120 And one of my favorite examples, James Dyson, 224 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,560 he's the inventor of the vacuum cleaner. 225 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:55,800 He had 5,000 failed prototypes. 226 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,000 So like I said, you're in good company there, 227 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,240 but the important thing is that you persevered 228 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,480 through that and that you found a way 229 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,800 to having a working prototype. 230 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,280 Now that you have a working prototype in place, 231 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,400 what are some of the new challenges 232 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,080 in terms of getting your product out there to customers? 233 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,440 Because from what I understand, you have a lot of orders 234 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,280 that are pending and I know you're working 235 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,520 to try to fulfill those as much as possible. 236 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,560 One of the challenges is one, due to financial constraints, 237 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:33,840 then secondly, on documentations. 238 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,400 You know, most of some things have to be properly done 239 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,840 and done in a legal way. 240 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,040 It doesn't have to jump into any business, 241 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,560 into any innovations. 242 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:47,240 And in terms of legal rights and all, 243 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,000 if care is not taken, you might lose your rights. 244 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,240 You might lose everything about it. 245 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,400 So financial constraint makes it to delay some process 246 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,600 of which is one of the challenges I'm facing 247 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,600 and a site for mass production. 248 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,640 For mass production, lucky enough, 249 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,960 we've gotten a permanent site, 250 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,320 still at a developmental stage, 251 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,520 like it's still underdeveloped. 252 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,240 So we're still trying to bring all these things, 253 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,480 trying to put some things in place, 254 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,880 trying to push many things in order. 255 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,760 And again, in terms of materials, 256 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,040 they don't come easy, you know? 257 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,240 You need to source for materials, 258 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,160 you need to source for standard materials. 259 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Because during my prototype, 260 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,880 most of the materials I use are, 261 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,840 they are scrap materials, they are local materials 262 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,200 I got around and I got around from dump sites. 263 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,440 I got them from dump sites just to put them together, 264 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,160 just to prove to the world, oh, this actually works. 265 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,560 It actually works this way, you know? 266 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:56,080 It's not very easy. 267 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,000 It's not very easy. 268 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,400 And during this time, I'm searching for these materials. 269 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,000 I'm into dispatch riding, 270 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,200 which is in Nigeria we call it Okada riding, Okada. 271 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,640 So, you know, carrying passengers from one place 272 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,840 to another at the end of the trip, 273 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,760 they give you a token, you know? 274 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:16,880 So, you know. 275 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,440 Right, so that's how you've been funding your projects. 276 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,880 Yes, exactly, that's how I've been funding the project, 277 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,000 funding the prototype. 278 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,440 So the moment the prototype went viral, 279 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,400 so a lot of people from diasporas, 280 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,160 a lot of individuals, a lot of NGOs, 281 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,720 they've been calling, most of them sending donations. 282 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,560 So that is why it was where it was today, 283 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,640 like the improvement you're seeing today 284 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,440 is all because of God, is all because of the, 285 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:53,440 our well-wishers, is because of the supporters as well. 286 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,160 So I give kudos to them, I give kudos to God as well. 287 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,600 It's all been easy. 288 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,360 Yeah, well, my hat is off to you 289 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,400 for continuing to do the right thing. 290 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,440 I know there are a lot of many different paths 291 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,480 you could have took in terms of, you know, 292 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,520 taking care of yourself and finding funding 293 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,520 for your business, but I admire the hard work aspect 294 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,760 of what you do, and that's one of the great things 295 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,480 about your story I absolutely love 296 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,520 is your decision to invest in yourself 297 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,960 and also to pursue your education. 298 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,000 And I understand that after completing 299 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,400 your secondary education, that's when you came to Lagos 300 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,400 and you found work on a, that word, Okada, Okada Rider. 301 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,120 I know Obi is laughing at you right now, 302 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,440 but it's all good. 303 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,200 Yeah, so, you know, if you could speak a little bit 304 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,440 about that and kind of just build on that point. 305 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,000 Yeah, of course. 306 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,480 Like I said, it's up on years back 307 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,880 where my dad and mom are like, they got divorced, 308 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,680 so, you know, at some point, it got worse for, 309 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,000 I and my mom, after we can stay with you here, 310 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,560 after we can stay, my dad is actually listening, 311 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:11,080 so, like, so we had to go and stay 312 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,120 with his elder brother at Ibadan. 313 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,240 So from there, you know, Lagos is still, 314 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,080 in terms of electricity, Lagos is still manageable 315 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,440 compared to Ibadan. 316 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,680 So the moment, the place that I went to is at Ibadan, 317 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,320 it's a state in Nigeria, aside Lagos, 318 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,520 just like a state in Nigeria, 319 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,240 but Lagos is more civilized than Ibadan. 320 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,640 So where I went to is kind of a very remote area, 321 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,120 it's not very wide, but you don't have electricity. 322 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,360 There's actually wires, there's actually poles, 323 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,320 but they're not supplying electricity. 324 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,320 So if care is not taking some uses as a, you know, 325 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,640 it's not supplying electricity. 326 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,080 You can actually just, you know, touch it with your bare hands, 327 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,280 it doesn't shock, it's not even supplying it. 328 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,280 So, you know, coming from Lagos, 329 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,960 I'm still even enjoying a little as electricity I know, 330 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,040 you know, it's not comfortable for me, 331 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,040 not being able to watch TV, cartoons, 332 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,680 and my dad, Jezebel, is a farmer. 333 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,240 I helped him most of the time in farms. 334 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,240 The little time I had is the midnight 335 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,920 when I had to read, I had to study. 336 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,560 So like, I can't take it anymore. 337 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,040 I went to school, I messaged my physician, 338 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,520 she was like, wow, this is what is going on, 339 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,280 this is what I had, this is the advice, 340 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,320 this is what I had in mind in doing, 341 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,000 was like, wow, it's a very good idea. 342 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,360 If you can put it into practice, 343 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:50,360 if you can go deeper, and I'm the type of person like, 344 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:52,240 I love solving general issues, 345 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,040 I love solving problems affecting the society 346 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,400 with the little way I can. 347 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,000 So this pushed me, this motivates me into like, 348 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,080 okay, giving it a shot, giving it a try. 349 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,360 So I went back home and informed my dad, Jezebel, 350 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:10,520 I was like, wow, it's a very good idea, 351 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,880 but at this time, you know, there's nothing I can do, 352 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,880 this is a financial aspect. 353 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,880 So after finishing my secondary school work, 354 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,880 I was in high school, so I came back to Lagos. 355 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,840 So things were still the way it was for my mom, 356 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,000 it was still hard, after I was 72 years. 357 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,800 So like, most of the people around me, 358 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,880 they're riding bikes, I was like, 359 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,880 I was like, oh, can I join? 360 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,200 Most of them, like, they're riding bikes, 361 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,480 which is Okada motorcycle, something similar to this, 362 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,480 I tried it, I don't know if you have it over there in the US, 363 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,480 but in Lagos there, we have this part, we have Okada, 364 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:58,480 whereby you carried people from one destination to another. 365 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,480 So at the end of your trip, they give you money, you know? 366 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,480 So I started riding this bike, 367 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,480 so I started riding this bike from there, I was like, no. 368 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,480 So I still kept on, from this savings from the bike, 369 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,480 I tried saving some parts to bring the innovation 370 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,480 into existence, you know? 371 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,480 I started giving up, but thinking of it, 372 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,480 but I don't think of where I left and how I left the place, 373 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,480 don't want me to give up, because I was like, no, 374 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,480 people are like, really going through a lot, 375 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,480 without having access to electricity, 376 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,480 it's kind of very challenging, it's kind of, it's so touching. 377 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,480 So I, this motivates me, even riding bike, you know, 378 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,480 riding bike is kind of, it's not a very lucrative job, 379 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:53,480 it's a kind of job that comes with looking unkempt, you know? 380 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,480 You need to look tattered, because even though you tried 381 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:00,480 looking good, looking nice, the dust will stain, 382 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,480 even though you're putting on white, you're putting on Thai, 383 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,480 whatever, it's going to stain it, 384 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,480 before you know your face are covered with dust, you know? 385 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,480 I still have to continue trying it, I was like, oh, at this point, 386 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:16,480 I need to get a formal education, just to push this, 387 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,480 just to, you know, to bring this, to support this innovation, 388 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,480 because you might, there's different between having an idea 389 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,480 and going to school, going to higher education, 390 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,480 to learn more about the stuff, to develop your skill, 391 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,480 to add more to your knowledge, so from this, I enrol, 392 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,480 I gain admission into Intellectual Polytechnic, 393 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,480 there I studied Computer Science, it's not actually 394 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,480 relating to anything engineering, but for the fact that 395 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:52,480 I have this dream way back, with the experience I have in high education, 396 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,480 I put them in place, put them together, on the long run, 397 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,480 the effort paid off, you know, they assisted me in this, 398 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,480 bringing this innovation into existence, so it's not, 399 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,480 I didn't actually get it right, but each time I tried, 400 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:17,480 I moved closer, I moved closer, the prototype I got is actually 401 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,480 a very big one in the first place, it's a very big one, 402 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,480 very big one, it's very heavy, you know, each time I tried 403 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:30,480 and failed, it's not very easy, you know, any money from 404 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,480 this risky business, this, this, Ocala writing comes with 405 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,480 many risks, accidents, rain falling, you know, under the sun, 406 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:44,480 under the rain, you know, there's a certain time I have this accident, 407 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,480 I don't have this choice than to continue riding the bike 408 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,480 despite the wound on my left leg, after just trying, 409 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,480 just treating it as a chemist at the roadside, 410 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,480 then continue driving this bike, you know, there are a lot of challenges, 411 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,480 imagine you saving... 412 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:06,480 It's not glamorous work at all, it's not glamorous, it's a lot of hard work, 413 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,480 is what I'm hearing, and you know, as I listen to you talk about this, 414 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:15,480 you know, your life and your endeavours, the recurring thing that I'm hearing is 415 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:22,480 dedication and work ethic, you know, and among many of the youth in Nigeria today, 416 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:28,480 there seems to be like this fascination with fast money and instant success 417 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,480 and you know, not enough emphasis on hard work or appreciation for hard work. 418 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Was there ever a time where you felt pressured to join your peers in this, 419 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,480 you know, flashy lifestyle and schemes to get rich quick? 420 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,480 Were you ever pressured at any point to fall prey to that? 421 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:50,480 I have been pressured, I have many like, you know, most of my friends, 422 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:56,480 most then they're into this internet fraud, 423 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:01,480 like most of them, I tried approaching some of them, they were like, 424 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,480 no, you need to join us, I said, no, I'm not going to do this, I'm not going to do this. 425 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:12,480 So I kept on driving this bike after the 1972 year, you know, after keep trying, 426 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:19,480 you know, not being able to dress like my peers do, not being able to buy the kind of phones they use, 427 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,480 not being able to live the kind of lifestyle, go to clubs, you know, 428 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:29,480 for the fact that I have the focus, I kept on, I kept on, you know, 429 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,480 hustling, I never looked at those, I never let it distract me for once, 430 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,480 so I'm always connected with whatever I have. 431 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,480 What was in my mind is just about investing in myself. 432 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,480 Each time I even make money, I try to invest in the project, 433 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:52,480 I rather try and feel rather than going after losers. 434 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,480 Yeah, you made the right decision because you're really not missing out on anything. 435 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,480 I know that's a huge distraction. 436 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,480 You see your friends, they're dressing in latest fashions, 437 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,480 and they're out clubbing, and they're enjoying their youth, 438 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,480 but I like how you keep your vision in front of you, your goal in mind. 439 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,480 You have a vision and goal in place, 440 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:18,480 and you're putting money aside towards your prototypes and your inventions, 441 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,480 so all that stuff is stuff that's going to matter in the long run. 442 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,480 I love that you don't get distracted by any of that stuff, 443 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,480 so hats off to you on that, 444 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,480 and I definitely want you to keep going at the pace that you're going. 445 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,480 I know there are a lot of difficult and tough days, 446 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,480 but if you just keep your vision ahead of you, 447 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:43,480 it'll definitely kind of propel you forward and keep you from getting distracted. 448 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:49,480 We're at the midpoint for the show, so I think I want to go ahead and take a break, 449 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,480 and when we come back, we're going to talk more about your actual invention, 450 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,480 and I want you to kind of dive into how it actually works, 451 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,480 because a lot of people don't, especially if they're not technically inclined, 452 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,480 they don't really understand the science behind your generator, 453 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,480 so I want you to talk more about that. 454 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,480 We're going to go ahead and take a break now, 455 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,480 and when we return, we'll talk more with Oyen Koule. 456 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,480 We'll be right back. 457 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,480 All right. 458 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,480 Let's go. 459 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,480 We got forever 460 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,480 Slow it down 461 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,480 Take our time 462 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,480 Baby, our love is right on time 463 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,480 We got forever 464 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:50,480 We got forever 465 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:05,480 It's not that I don't want to be with you 466 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,480 I just need some time alone 467 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,480 I love all the moments we share 468 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,480 I just need some time alone 469 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,480 I can't wait to make love to you 470 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,480 I just need some time alone 471 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,480 Everything's just happening so fast 472 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,480 I just need some time alone 473 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:38,480 I feel like I've known you forever 474 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:46,480 I feel like I've known you forever 475 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:54,480 I feel like I've known you forever 476 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:01,480 I feel like I've known you forever 477 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:08,480 Never felt this way before 478 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:16,480 Every day I crave you more 479 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:22,480 I can't get you out of my head 480 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,480 Baby, baby 481 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,480 I can't get you out of my head 482 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,480 Baby, baby 483 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,480 It feels like we're going too fast 484 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,480 Wait a minute, baby 485 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:44,480 It feels like we're going too fast 486 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,480 Wait a minute, baby 487 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,480 I wanna make this last. 488 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,480 Wait a minute baby. 489 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,480 Feels like we're going too fast. 490 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,480 Wait a minute baby. 491 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,480 Cause I wanna make this last. 492 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,480 Wait a minute baby. 493 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,480 Feels like we're going too fast. 494 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:28,480 Music playing. 495 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,480 Music playing. 496 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:59,480 Music playing. 497 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:06,480 Music playing. 498 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,480 I feel like we're going too fast. 499 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,480 I feel like we're going too fast. 500 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,480 I feel like we're going too fast. 501 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:31,480 I feel like we're going too fast. 502 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:57,480 Music playing. 503 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:12,480 Music playing. 504 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:40,480 Music playing. 505 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,480 Music playing. 506 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,480 Music playing. 507 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:40,480 Music playing. 508 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,480 Music playing. 509 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,480 Music playing. 510 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:46,480 Music playing. 511 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,580 they needed something in order. No, no, no, no. You need to cool down, give them quality, 512 00:33:51,580 --> 00:33:56,320 give them what's as in, you made them enjoy their money like, oh, they're actually paying 513 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,520 for this, they actually enjoy your service. Not what's going to damage your image, not 514 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,800 what's going to damage the image of the company. 515 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:10,660 Somewhere around there, I went to this stock exchange in Nigeria, Lagos, Nigeria, you know, 516 00:34:10,660 --> 00:34:15,680 the advice I was given was like, oh, you go and work on your updates, you go and work 517 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:22,080 on your stuff. Don't be in haste to sell the, just to, don't say because people are rushing 518 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,120 their products simply because fuel is very expensive. You work on your upgrade. If you're 519 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,760 making smaller capacity, work on bigger capacity because sooner or later, people are going 520 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:38,860 to need more power. So if you don't work on your capacity, how are you going to sell them? 521 00:34:38,860 --> 00:34:43,120 So which was one of the reasons. So hopefully very soon, mass production is going to kick 522 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,400 off by good reason. Oh, it definitely will by God's grace. So 523 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:55,720 definitely stay focused and don't allow people to rush, you know, your quality. Quality is 524 00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:59,720 more important than getting something out there that you know is not 100% up to your 525 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:07,240 standard. So definitely, you know, stay focused on everything with that. I want to talk a 526 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:15,040 little bit, not too much, but I know there are some detractors out there. What are you 527 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:22,960 doing to kind of inoculate and protect yourself from scammers and fraudulent investors and 528 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:29,040 just bad advisors that are trying to steer you in the wrong direction? What are you doing 529 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,280 to keep yourself inoculated from that type of stuff? 530 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:39,640 One of the things was what is causing the delay. One of the measures I'm putting in 531 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:47,760 place for investors that has this mindset of stealing the innovations is that was why 532 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:53,760 I'm not putting it out there. So many people claim they've done this, they do that, but 533 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:59,600 no result, no one has come out openly, no one is in function. They're actually waiting 534 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,800 for yours. I have a job, someone is offering me millions just to lay it underneath. Do 535 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:12,480 you imagine what they're going to do with it without you, you know, making it, documenting 536 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:19,240 it, making sure you have the full and proper legal rights to your innovations? You know, 537 00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:24,720 I know what I, not that I didn't needed money or I didn't needed a good life or art to, 538 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:29,800 you know, discipline myself to make sure I complete all these procedures, make sure I 539 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:36,120 complete all these prototypes, make sure they are up to standard. And in terms of, at somewhere 540 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,240 around last year, I received, you know, there are people coming in as trades and all. The 541 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:47,600 only thing I just feel like I don't assess one-on-one interactions with people outside 542 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:53,480 the media houses for now. So one of those things, what I've been putting in this place, 543 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:59,360 because it's very hard for you to know who is who. That's the truth. But as for media 544 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,760 houses, you know, their image and everything is on the line and they are not ready to tarnish 545 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:16,120 it. So that's in terms of the, yeah, in terms of the, the, the measure I put in place for, 546 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,360 you know, those who try to steal the innovation is that I'm not putting it out there because 547 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,160 I know I'm not ready for this. I have a couple of weeks to go before it's out there, you 548 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,280 know, you need to be fully ready. Not that you just sell some out and you're not fully 549 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,560 ready before you know they will sue you for your innovations. So one has to be very careful. 550 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,480 Don't listen to the crowd. Don't listen to the critics. Make sure you take your time. 551 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,160 If not, you lose everything. You lose her. 552 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,800 That's exactly right. So I'm glad that you're measuring your approach and that you don't 553 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:56,960 allow yourself to kind of get caught up in, you know, getting off course. I want to ask 554 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:05,200 you this just out of curiosity and I definitely don't want you to give out any proprietary 555 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:11,480 secrets or anything like that. But for those who are less technically or technically challenged, 556 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:18,720 can you explain in layman's terms how your generator works and what actually it does? 557 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:25,960 Like I said, when I started this innovation, many people don't believe me. They believe 558 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:31,840 maybe I'm trying to spam them from little tokens. It actually looks crazy, you know. 559 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,240 Yeah, that's the truth. Many think, oh, Omar is like, you're running my, you need to visit 560 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:41,440 the psychiatrist's office. You know, I was like, it's actually works. I'm the type of 561 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,280 person, most of my prototypes are done off and like I'm not saying I'm kind of a genius. 562 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,600 They're done in the brain. They're done in the mind. Actually, I don't really know that 563 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:56,800 I don't have, I'm the type that I'm an introvert. I actually stay alone. I think a lot. I meditate 564 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:02,000 a lot, you know. I tell people about this, they say, Omar, you just go and sit down. 565 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,880 One thing is like you're running mad. How will you tell me a generator will not be running 566 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:12,320 fuel on fuel or diesel or gas or on coal? I was like, it actually works. You know, I 567 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:19,600 get to convince people like, okay, look at your normal TV set, your normal television. 568 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,200 When decided, it's in form of black and white. I don't know if you ever used white and black 569 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:35,280 television. Yes. Dr. Jerry, you use something like that? So as time goes on, there's an 570 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:44,480 upgrade. They did a colored one. As time goes on, they do a LED, sorry, a plasma TV, which 571 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,800 is a flat screen. As time goes on, they feel that, oh, that one is consuming more light. 572 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:55,400 They did a light one, which is called a LED TV. As time goes on, what I'm actually saying 573 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:01,960 is improvement is going on, technology is going on. It's not relenting on a single face. 574 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:07,160 The world itself is reflecting. It's not on the spot. So likewise, something has happened 575 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:16,760 with Jen. So expect Jen to be on the stage right from day one. I do tell people that 576 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:23,920 there are one million solutions to a particular problem. If you don't want to use your engine, 577 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:36,880 look at the Showa Bay. Look at our dam. You know a dam? Yes, water turns in the turbine. 578 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:44,000 They are not actually using the engine, but they use water. So you can use any means to 579 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:50,120 give you what you want. So this one is actually a Showa Bay. At first, it actually uses the 580 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,160 battery, but due to critics, I have to agree that, oh, I don't want this thing to use the 581 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,120 battery. I tried convincing people that, oh, every Jen uses the battery to start. They 582 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,760 said, no, this is an inverter. I said, okay, I'm going to prove it to you. This is not 583 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,880 an inverter, and it's not going to use any form of battery. So I kept on. It's a kind 584 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:14,360 of everybody knows that a generator has its two parts, the mechanical aspect and the electrical 585 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:25,560 aspect. What do I have a problem mostly is the mechanical aspect. The electrical aspect 586 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,680 is the alternator. So that's why you have your coil, you have a stator coil, and you 587 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:36,080 have your armature. That's the major component. What I did was I built my own engine. I put 588 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,960 some components together for my own engine and make sure it doesn't consume for generator 589 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:48,840 electricity. This is what I want to know. You mentioned earlier that you use scrap materials 590 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:54,640 for your design. Because you're using scrap materials or whatever materials are available, 591 00:41:54,640 --> 00:42:00,160 how are you able to make sure that you have continuity in your design? Does that impact 592 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:06,240 how each unit works or each generator works because you're using different materials 593 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:12,320 from different places? Yeah, using scrap materials does not mean generator is not working, does 594 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,840 not mean it's not giving me the result I wanted. The only thing, the only challenges I have 595 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:23,120 with scrap materials is that they are not beautiful enough, they are not built for the 596 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:31,720 purpose, and they are not stronger. So with scrap materials, they're actually making use 597 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:38,680 of the materials. I make use of tires, I made use of, most of the materials, they are not 598 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,280 required materials, they are just available materials. So they can be stronger. That's 599 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:48,520 the only difference between scrap materials and standard materials is that it's not as 600 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:54,200 strong as the required materials they specially designed for you and for its purpose. So hopefully 601 00:42:54,200 --> 00:43:00,600 we are talking to some manufacturers to get us exactly what we needed just to make sure 602 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:08,920 this thing is up to date and what is used for the purposes. Will you deliver your product 603 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:15,960 to a customer? Do you provide them some type of warranty or guarantee or if they have issues 604 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:23,320 with it? Is there a service component to it? Of course, of course, of course, of course. 605 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:30,520 Like it's kind of, it's just like your regular generator, just like a diesel and petrol generator. 606 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:37,240 They're very strong. This is not solar, this is not inverter. It's as we standard, that 607 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:42,800 was I'll tell you, I've not been selling it out. I intentionally hold it down just to 608 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:49,160 make sure I made use of standard materials and of which is what I've gotten for now. 609 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:54,960 Do you understand what I'm saying? So I'm not saying because people needed it, oh, there's 610 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,680 a panic, there's a panic bike, there's people are rushing you, you give them what is wrong, 611 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:05,800 so I've been able to source for standard materials. I've been able to source for required materials 612 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,760 to get the job done. And with this, I can give you a chance that, oh, this is going 613 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:16,560 to give you one year warranty without having any thoughts. So and the lifespan for it before 614 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:24,640 at the time it was actually for it has increased to eight to nine years. But the minimum warranty 615 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:30,960 for now, up to more than nine years, depending on material, you know, any mechanism, any 616 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,400 any generator, you don't over loop them. So people don't know how to maintain it. But 617 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:42,840 under normal circumstances, under normal maintenance, under normal usage without abusing it, it 618 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:50,120 will exceed more than nine years of lifespan. I mean lifespan. But before it's developed 619 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,400 there, and this type of gen is not the type that developed for easily because combustion 620 00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:02,640 is not taking place is not like your regular generator doesn't use this well. The mechanical 621 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:09,080 component is not as much as what to be. So the maintenance is very low. They are lower. 622 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:15,000 Yes. So they hardly got spoiled. So I can give you the guarantee of one year and lifespan 623 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:24,360 of like nine to 10 years. Well, that's a significant warranty period for this type of product. 624 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:32,800 Are there any incubators or other Nigerian startup hubs that have offered assistance 625 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:40,960 to you or offered a space for you to work? Yeah, like I said, I acquired a place not 626 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,880 quite long. It's actually from donations. But I still have to develop it. So we are 627 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:53,040 trying to work on the permanent site. Like I said, hopefully very soon by God's grace, 628 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:58,000 mass production will get started this year. In fact, I don't want to give you exact time. 629 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,200 But all I can tell you for now is this day is my next week, my next two weeks, maybe 630 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,840 a month time. But all I can show you that this year, mass production is going to take 631 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:17,880 place. I see. All right. Well, this is another question that I had and actually a few of 632 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:24,280 these came in from some people that wrote into me about the show. They are curious as 633 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:32,440 to as you move forward into the rest of the year, what primary goals do you have for the 634 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:43,000 development promotion of your generator? Like I said, it's not something like I said, with 635 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:55,000 time I'm going to need investors. Like I said, the upgrade does not use a single capacity. 636 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:06,920 As it stands, we can build from 1 kVA to 50 kVA. It's not very easy for a single person, 637 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:13,960 for a single individual, for a single company to meet with those capacities with different 638 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:28,040 sections. I don't know if I'm saying the pageri. So in coming years, I foresee like most of 639 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:37,240 the people are getting to use this product because it is a kind of a very good one. It's 640 00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:45,320 not just Nigeria, but Africa itself, there's need for power all over the places. So I foresee 641 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:53,160 them using this product, adapting, swapping, and sorry, they are posting into using a full 642 00:47:53,160 --> 00:48:00,760 free generator. Understood. I want to get to another question that came in about a week 643 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:08,680 ago via email. This one reads, how has the Nigerian government supported or hindered 644 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:16,600 your efforts to get funded or to get regulated? Have they made it easy, difficult? What's 645 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:22,360 been your experience there? I have to be honest with you. No government 646 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:31,160 agencies have reached out, but lots of NGOs have reached out. A lot of people, Nigerians 647 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:37,640 from diasporas have reached out. A lot of individuals have reached out to support St. 648 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:44,600 Donations and to become ROI investors. But one of the laws the current president, 649 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:53,400 Senator Bola made, Senovo made, which is very okay and which is very good for this innovation. 650 00:48:53,400 --> 00:49:04,600 It's like it passed the power bill for individuals to be able to generate electricity on their own. 651 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,080 So that was the area that I feel that the government has really impacted the innovations, 652 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:16,040 has really given a green light on the innovation as well. But none of the government agencies 653 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:23,080 have reached out to partner or to take it up from there, just to none for now. 654 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:35,320 Yes. And what other ways do you feel like your generator will bring positive changes to Nigeria? 655 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:41,640 We know that it will help with making sure that there's affordable and consistent power, 656 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:49,240 but are there other potential positive aspects like potential job creation or stimulating the 657 00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:54,040 economy? Can you talk a little bit about other initiatives that it may help to alleviate? 658 00:49:55,080 --> 00:50:01,800 All right. The first one is going to bring an easy life to people, it's going to bring change. 659 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:07,480 People are going to save more. I have some customers, some people who spend about 10,000 660 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:13,320 Naira on four every day and close to 300,000 Naira for four every month. With this revenue, 661 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:24,920 they will be able to save enough money. Most of the businesses in Nigeria and Africa as a whole, 662 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,400 some collapse due to power failure, like they're using their profit to purchase 663 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:40,040 these. Do you understand what I'm saying? So like I said, we have it in mind of training more than 664 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:48,120 500,000 Nigerian youth in repairing this stuff. We have it in mind of empowering them in a few 665 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:55,000 months to come and probably three years to come. But we have it in mind this year, by God's grace, 666 00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,280 as soon as mass production started, you need to empower people to be able to repair this. It also 667 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:06,600 creates more job opportunities for the youth, for the unemployed. It's going to bring a drastic change 668 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:15,400 into the Nigerian economy as well because people are leaving, they have access to social amenities, 669 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,840 their business is going smoothly as a result of steady alternative power supply. 670 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:27,000 I can broadly tell you that a lot of development will be coming in. In fact, 671 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,000 a lot of private investors will be coming into the country as well. 672 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:41,800 Yeah, and I love that it's going to create an opportunity to hire young people and also 673 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:49,960 get them back interested in technical aspects and in science and innovation and maybe less 674 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:57,560 so with this quick money-making type culture that we've been seeing over the past decade or so. 675 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:04,200 This is a good opportunity for you to mentor young people as well because I'm sure you have 676 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:09,960 a lot of young people that are looking up to you and asking about your projects, wanting to be a 677 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:16,760 part of it, so that has to be exciting. Of course, of course. There are a lot of people, 678 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:25,960 a lot of people that, like I said, the projects, some plans are in place just to employ the youth 679 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:32,520 to empower them. Like I said, this kind of gen is very unique. You need to teach people how to 680 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:38,680 repair it just in case on the long run, maybe after a year, two years, it's going to develop 681 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:45,000 a little force, they will be able to take up the responsibility. It's to reduce unemployment in 682 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,840 Nigeria, it's to reduce unemployment in Africa as a whole simply because you've trained more than 683 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:59,080 500,000 youths and more. 500,000 youth training other people, multiplying that is about millions 684 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:10,120 of people empowered and benefiting from these innovations as well. I love that. As we get 685 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:15,400 closer to the end of the show, I want you to, for those who are interested in learning more about 686 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:21,000 your work and potentially collaborating with you as well, what's the best way for them to get in 687 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:29,640 contact with you or your team? Yeah, the best way to get in touch with me is Instagram, 688 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:40,520 at Bannerboy1, B-A, Bannerboy is spelling B-A-N-N-A-R-B-O-I-1, Bannerboy1, same thing as Twitter, 689 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:53,080 Bannerboy1, B-A-N-N-A-R-O-I, B-A-N-N-A-R-B-O-I-1, Bannerboy1. So you can send me a message on Facebook, 690 00:53:53,080 --> 00:54:09,080 Michael Oyokunle-Anyashola. I also have a also maybe the VI call, direct call like 08105803658. 691 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,960 Yes, and you have WhatsApp as well and I know we communicate back and forth on that too. 692 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:22,920 So definitely. Michael, listen, thank you so much for coming on the show today. I definitely wish you 693 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:29,400 all the best and much success with your invention. And I have no doubt that you're, you know, well on 694 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:35,480 your way to leaving your marketing history and becoming a future power player and leader of 695 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:41,240 Nigeria. So thank you so much for coming on the show today. Thank you, Dupu Jerry, for giving me 696 00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:46,040 the opportunity. First time in the West Town world, I want to say a big thank you. I want to say big 697 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:51,320 thank you to the listeners. A big thanks for staying tuned, staying tuned. Thanks for taking 698 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,200 your time. Thanks for taking your energy. You know, I want to say a big thank you. And to 699 00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:05,000 Dupu Jerry, more progress and more success coming your way. Thank you, sir. Thank you. And I'm so 700 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,680 proud of you. Keep up the good work. Thank you to all of our listeners today. Whatever part of the 701 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,560 world you're tuning in from this evening, I definitely appreciate your listenership so very 702 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:21,880 much. Be sure to tune in for the next episode of Live with Dr. Andre Jerry. It will air on August 703 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:29,400 the 23rd at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. I'll be joined by Charlotte Realtor, Adria Massey, 704 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,120 and mortgage broker, Kaishel Bozier. And they'll be discussing the current state of the Howie 705 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:39,080 Market and interest rates. That'll be right here on the RS First Rail Network. But that's 706 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,520 our show for tonight. Good night, everybody. And again, thank you for tuning in. 707 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:47,000 All right. Thank you very much, Dupu Jerry. 708 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:19,000 Thank you.