1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,800 Dr. Jerry, you got the whole world waiting. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,800 Been ready for you to start the conversation. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:07,800 No point of view. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,800 We've got the haters confused. 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,800 Leave it up to you to bring us all the good news. 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,800 Positive five lives and the six appeal to Dr. Andre Jerry. 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,800 Can I get an interview? 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,800 View, view, view, view, view, view, view, view, view, view. 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,800 Hello everybody. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,840 Good evening and welcome to a special holiday episode of live with 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,440 Dr. Andre Jerry. 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,240 I appreciate you sharing an hour of your evening with me, 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,240 supporting this broadcast, and the artist's first network. 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,240 So today is Thanksgiving Eve and I have a fun fact about today 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,440 that I don't think many people know about. 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,140 Did you know that the day before Thanksgiving is also known as 17 00:00:48,140 --> 00:00:51,940 Blackout Wednesday or drinksgiving? 18 00:00:51,940 --> 00:00:56,440 So apparently because most people are off tomorrow, Thanksgiving Eve 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,440 is widely known as the biggest binge drinking night of the year. 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Why am I just now finding out about this? 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,040 All these years I could have had a legit reason to binge drink 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,040 during the holidays and I missed out. 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,040 Well anyway, if you're indulging tonight, enjoy yourself, 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,240 have a drink for me, and of course drink responsibly. 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,440 Listen, we have a great show tonight. 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:23,240 My guest and I will be discussing education, innovation, entrepreneurship, 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,640 and black history and know we don't have to wait until February 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,240 to talk about black history. 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,040 Black history is woven throughout the fabric of this great country 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,640 and it's always a relevant topic. 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,840 But when we think about historic black figures, we often think about 32 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:46,440 the Titans, the MLKs, the Rosa Parks, Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,840 Hank Aaron and Muhammad Ali. 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,040 And yes, we know that these are prominent figures that have left 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,440 an indelible imprint on American society and we salute them. 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,840 But tonight, however, we are honoring the legacy of an unsung historic 37 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,040 black inventor whose groundbreaking invention that was patented in the 1920s 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,240 impacted an entire industry and is still widely used today. 39 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Our guest today is the grandson of this unsung innovator 40 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,240 and the author of the best-selling new book, 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:24,040 honoring his grandfather's legacy entitled, Unsung, but Forever Remembered, 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,440 The Man Who Invented the Automobile Turn Signal, David G. Bond. 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,240 Please help me. 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,840 Welcome to the show, Dr. Stephen Bond. 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,040 How are you doing this, even my friends? 46 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,840 I'm doing awesome. 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,640 How are you doing, Dr. Jerry? 48 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:38,640 Oh, I'm doing great. 49 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:39,240 I'm doing great. 50 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,640 Listen, thank you so much for making time to be on the show today. 51 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:45,040 I know you and I have been planning this since September. 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,440 So I'm excited to finally have you on the show. 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,640 And I want to jump right in because we have a lot to touch on. 54 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:55,840 But first, why don't you just go ahead and tell our listeners a little bit 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,640 about yourself and your background? 56 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:01,040 Sure. Well, I'm Dr. Stephen Bond. 57 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,360 I was originally born in New York, Queens, New York, and I was raised on 58 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,240 Island, New York, and I lived in Florida for 10 years. 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:16,040 And then I moved to North Carolina nine years ago after my parents passed away. 60 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,040 And so I've been educated now for the last 23 years. 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,840 And education is something that's dear to my heart. 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,640 I love teaching. 63 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:23,840 I love education. 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:29,240 I love just the idea of education where I believe that every student can learn. 65 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,240 I love being in the classroom. 66 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,840 I love making classwork and just being in class, entertaining, engaging, and fun. 67 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,840 You know, I've been known to dress up in different outfits. 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,840 I've known to be outside of boxes, some people like to say. 69 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,440 And I just love teaching in general. 70 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,040 For most of my teacher, I've taught social studies or jobs in social studies, 71 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:57,240 American history, world history, civics, economics, and AP history and government classes. 72 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,240 And I've also taught ELA for about a decade. 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,840 And I've taught science, physical science and chemistry. 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:11,640 And so I just love just teaching, you know, some about teaching to have a passion for and just energy for. 75 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,840 And the great thing about it is it's infectious to the students. 76 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,440 And I think what makes me stand out as a teacher is that I love to teach. 77 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,840 I love what I do. 78 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:27,240 I love teaching the children and I love just when I see the students get it and understand the concepts and ideas. 79 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:34,040 And what's amazing is that even though I've been doing this for over 20 years, most of the students that I did teach, 80 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,440 I still report them today. 81 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,440 They follow me on social media. 82 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,640 They are some of our teachers as well. 83 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,040 Some of them became lawyers. 84 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,840 And I say, Dr. Bond, I remember when you just missed the bond and, you know, you taught me in government class, 85 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:53,640 you suggested the judge and we did court cases or they're maybe teed by the mill ages and have a, you know, a wig on my head and just being king here in the eighth. 86 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,440 And so that love that I get is just amazing. 87 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,840 And so that's just a little bit about me. 88 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:02,440 Education is a big part of me. 89 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,640 I'm also an author. 90 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,840 I do consulting. 91 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:15,240 I do trainings on teaching social studies and language arts, keeping it relevant, keep it engaged and keeping it fun. 92 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,640 And also not just sitting in the classroom for a whole hour where you can't talk or move around. 93 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:26,440 To me, learning deals with movement, music, listening, poetry. 94 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:34,240 It's a whole plethora of ways to learn and more teachers I feel need to go that route. 95 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,440 Right. Absolutely. 96 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:43,440 And this is, I want to tip my hat to you and into all of our educators in the public school system, but especially our black male educators, 97 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:48,440 because as you know, only 2% of the nation's teachers are black males. 98 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:56,040 So to, you know, to say that you're an underrepresented demographic among educators is just really a gross understatement. 99 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:02,040 And I admire the passion and the engagement and the fun that you bring to your learning. 100 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:08,040 And I'm sure your students embrace, you know, having a black man as their teacher because it's just not very common. 101 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,040 So I can imagine how well received you are by your students. 102 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:19,640 Do you have a couple of stories that you can tell us about your experiences with students who have embraced your style of teaching? 103 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:26,040 Sure. I have one student and what's amazing is that this young man, he's one of the reasons why the book was printed. 104 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,040 I taught him back in 2007. 105 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:36,040 I was a history teacher and before that point, I don't believe he had an African American male teacher, you know, with few and far in between. 106 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:41,040 And so I told him in geography, you know, we have different things we did in class. 107 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:47,040 I would dress up and I would do activities like, you know, we would write in different languages. 108 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,040 So we were right like in Greek, right in Hebrew, right in different languages. 109 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,040 You know, even when we did African history. 110 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,040 And so that really just made the learning fun. 111 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,040 And so what's amazing is that he still follows me. 112 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:08,040 And when before I wrote my last book, he was one of the reasons why I was on Twitter one day and this young man follows me. 113 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:14,040 And they were doing the post about little known black history facts, little known inventors. 114 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:21,040 And he puts in a post, he said, I want Dr. Stephen Bond to tell a story by his grandfather how he invented signal light for cars. 115 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,040 But he told us back in like 2007. 116 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,040 I was like, wow, he remembers me telling that story. 117 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:37,040 And so what's amazing is that it really made me to say, you know what, I need to really write the story. 118 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,040 You know, I've written stuff. 119 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:45,040 I was like, now is the time I said this boy put on blast as the kids like to say, I said, you know what, he really inspired me. 120 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:51,040 I said, no, I really got working it because when he did the post, a whole bunch of people commented. 121 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,040 And I was like, it is true. And, you know, I hate when people without it. 122 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:02,040 So I sent the picture of my grandfather and I didn't want to send because what happened later on, I did find his patent. 123 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,040 But I told him, I said, my grandfather, David George Bond, they have a patent for it. 124 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:12,040 And I said, you know what, now I really have to do the research and do the work for this book. 125 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,040 And he was one of the inspirations I had. 126 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:24,040 And there's a couple of other young people who I taught a one year man. He named Rafael and I taught him in sixth and seventh grade. 127 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,040 And I was just coaching him and fly football years ago back in 2006. 128 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:36,040 And, you know, he's a great kid. And, you know, I taught him not just social studies, but I taught him life lessons about being humble. 129 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,040 You know, even when you play a sport, be humble. 130 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:52,040 You know, just remember it's a team, not just you. And then found out a few years later, you know, at the Moodle out Florida, he's one of the top wide receivers in the country. 131 00:08:52,040 --> 00:09:01,040 And, you know, I follow he's like, Coach Bond, Mr. Bond, you're one of the reasons why I became the humble athlete I am today. 132 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,040 Because one year I actually rep man had kicked him off the team for a while. 133 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:16,040 And I'm gonna let make sure he is a story. And then, you know, he said to me, he, you know, he said, Mr. Bond, you're one of the reasons why I am today humble and a leader and not selfish. 134 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:24,040 And I'm a humble man. And he won't get in the scholarship. He went to community college and then he played for the University of Pitt. 135 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,040 For a couple years with a lead wide receiver for two straight years. 136 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:35,040 And he had a little semi pro league and he's doing well. And, you know, just to see how he grew and mature. 137 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:43,040 So I'm in some football game, like, wow, you, you just swore you built do he was like, you know, he said he thanked me and other teachers. 138 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:49,040 And so one day I was asking him is I would say, well, what is your GPA? Yes, and then you put the numbers up, but what's your GPA? 139 00:09:49,040 --> 00:10:00,040 And he was all ACC as academic or America, because it's great. And those are stories. 140 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:08,040 That's why I get to teach it, because those are kids you root for. And also I've had students who dealt with different learning disabilities. 141 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:19,040 It could have been dyslexia or ADHD or autism. And to see when they get older that they thrive in society, that they become teachers and doctors and lawyers. 142 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:28,040 It's just amazing. See one young lady I taught in her name is Carmen. Yeah, I can say today and she is now she got Dr. Pharmacy. 143 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:35,040 And I remember when I taught her back in six, seven, eight grade, ain't no, we teach someone you're like, she's going to go places. 144 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:43,040 She's a smart love to learn and she was to learn the English language, but she knew like this girl's going to be somebody. 145 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:55,040 And to see her now being a pharmacist, graduating with a doctor degree is like, wow, I remember when this girl's in my class and I remember teaching her and you just saw greatness in these students. 146 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:10,040 And so those are a few of the stories that have been educated and especially when they remember you, you're like, well, you remember me and I taught you in 04 and 05 and 06 and so, and even up to a few years ago. 147 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:24,040 And that's one of the reasons why you teach, because just when you know you've had an impact on people, you know, we have an unsum profession, but there are no doctors, lawyers, teachers, physicians. 148 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:32,040 So, we had no education, no need, no need jobs unless they had a teacher that helped them along the way. 149 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:46,040 That's absolutely true. And I want to circle back to something that you mentioned. You mentioned that some of your students have learning disorders such as dyslexia and ADHD and and perhaps some other learning disorders that kind of inhibit their ability to learn 150 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,600 students do, what are some of the challenges that you see that these students face and 151 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,520 how do you kind of level the playing field for them so that they have the same opportunity 152 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,680 to learn as the other students? 153 00:11:57,680 --> 00:12:03,040 Usually what's interesting, more than anything, is that they need that confidence instilled 154 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,200 in them because many times what happened for so long, people gave up on them. 155 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,000 Some kind of parents gave up on them. 156 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:15,880 Sometimes teachers have gave up on them because kids know when you believe in them. 157 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,560 Kids know when you care. 158 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:21,760 I give affirmations sometimes, like sometimes for a test, they'll have affirmations with 159 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:27,120 us saying, I'm great, I will be great because greatness is in me. 160 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,000 And sometimes if I see them feeling a little bit low, I'm going to say, don't get you, 161 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,400 I've got greatness in you. 162 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,200 Don't get you're wonderful, you're especially made. 163 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,280 And that goes a long way. 164 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,680 So usually that's the first battle, mentally, letting them realize that they're just as 165 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:41,680 capable. 166 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:46,120 And one of the strategies I do is I've never been a teacher where you have to sit down 167 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,160 and be quiet for the whole period. 168 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,920 Back then you move around too much, oh, we're writing you up. 169 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,920 What do I do? 170 00:12:53,920 --> 00:13:02,080 And so you learn that kids learn by not just reading, but by writing, by listening, hearing 171 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,080 music. 172 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,840 And so I have my students write poems. 173 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,280 I have them write plays. 174 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,240 I have them listen to music. 175 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,440 I have them do things which make the learning process more engaging. 176 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,640 I have kids do journaling and journaling is a great device because many times students 177 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:23,360 will, but they have good rapport that teacher they'll discuss and say, you know what, I 178 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,560 do have self esteem issues. 179 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:25,560 I do follow myself. 180 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:30,120 So many kinds of mental battle is the first battle that you have to tackle with these 181 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,120 young students. 182 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:36,880 And then what happens, I tell them what's ADHD, dyslexia or what have you. 183 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,440 Remember what strategy was best for you. 184 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:43,560 Like if you have ADHD, read, take a little break, you know, calm your nerves, take deep 185 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:45,040 breath and then go from there. 186 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,480 And what I also do, I do let kids walk around. 187 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,280 You know, they can dance, take a stretch out and that helps with the flow of the blood, 188 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,840 but also where it's not monotony. 189 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,000 So it does not feel like work. 190 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,560 And many times they'll say, dog, your class go by so fast. 191 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:00,560 I said, I know. 192 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:05,600 And I say, it's why because I segmented, you know, we'll read maybe silently for 10 minutes. 193 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,240 But if you do that, you get a break for three minutes. 194 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,400 So if you walk around, let's get around. 195 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,240 And those were not loud, you can do it. 196 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,120 And so those little things help all those students. 197 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,480 And why I tell students that, but that's your strategy was best for you reading, you know, 198 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,040 with some students, you know, have organizers with Venn diagrams or graphs or what have 199 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,040 you works well. 200 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,000 I'll let kids write it in their own way. 201 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,120 You know, if they want to write a poem about it, let them, if they want to sing or give 202 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,760 different references, you let them do that. 203 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:41,000 And also when I would dress up and do other things, one, it makes the class more interesting. 204 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,960 And that goes along way with classroom management and making it interesting. 205 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:50,080 But what I tell the students is find out what's your best few because I'm ADHD and I didn't 206 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,760 learn that till my late thirties. 207 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,640 And it was like, wow, it makes sense. 208 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,000 That's why I understood these students because that was me. 209 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,680 And so I let them know my battles. 210 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,840 I let them know when I had teachers write me off and say I was slow or just different 211 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:10,840 or a medium. 212 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,160 And I just would tell them, I said, I'm not going to give up for you. 213 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,000 And I tell them, whatever strategy works best for you. 214 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,640 Because you can be a medicine, but medicine can only do so much. 215 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,280 I said, learn what style works for you. 216 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,480 What style, you know, if you're visual and you learn by visual stuff that you to be can 217 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,880 help you just as much as I can. 218 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:38,320 That TikTok video where we were talking about the APARTS of speech, you can learn that way. 219 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:44,480 That video we did about the Egyptians, what they invented, you're watching it, you're 220 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,200 listening, you laugh about the same time you're learning. 221 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:52,440 And so learning is also can be entertaining in a good way. 222 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,560 And so I've learned those are devices. 223 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,680 Sometimes let the students say, you know, you're going to teach a class. 224 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,280 No words, you're going to do the skill. 225 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,760 You're going to do the play. 226 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,840 You're going to decide how I'm going to learn this activity. 227 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:10,960 You know, and so we retain more of the lesson when they participate in that matter. 228 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:11,960 Right. 229 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:12,960 They sure do. 230 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,200 Because, you know, I'll be honest, sometimes teachers are scared to let kids do that thing. 231 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,680 They're scared that the class going to get rambunctious and off the chain. 232 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,680 And so they play to conserve it. 233 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,160 And it's like, you know, when you coach this boy and you go for the juggler, you say, you 234 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,520 know, I'm just going to be reckless. 235 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,040 Sometimes you guys just be a little reckless. 236 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,480 They know what they're learning. 237 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,480 That's fine. 238 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,480 I did this way. 239 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,120 They're drawing, you know, they're cutting things out. 240 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,920 They're making word walls. 241 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:39,920 It's working. 242 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:40,920 Let them do it. 243 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Let them, as long as they behave improperly. 244 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Nothing to do it. 245 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,040 You know, if they want to give a speech, let them give a speech. 246 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,400 Now there's certain rules in language we're not going to tolerate, but I want to hear 247 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:58,800 their opinion, you know, and that's what helps, you know, letting those kids become individuals 248 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,120 and in a lot of ways teach themselves. 249 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,120 I'm giving them just like the template for what they need, but they're digging in and 250 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:06,240 researching for themselves. 251 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,880 They're making the work for themselves. 252 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,480 Like in my world history class, we're going over the Greeks. 253 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,080 And so I love how the Greek alphabet. 254 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,360 Next thing I have one student, she wrote a whole paragraph in Greek letters. 255 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:21,360 I said, by what you read, it says, listen, Greek is not my first language. 256 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:26,000 I have to read this slowly and surely, but what these students are doing, they're making 257 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,000 their own paragraphs. 258 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,520 They're doing their own work. 259 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,600 They're like, we can make our own place. 260 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,920 And that empowers the students and what they remember more, anything else. 261 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,080 Because I gave them that liberty. 262 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,280 Like they know I'm fun, but I'm firm. 263 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,000 I give a certain structure. 264 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,840 You know, they're not going to say what they want. 265 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,840 They're not going to misbehave. 266 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,520 Cause I teach manners, they're going to say, yes, sir, yes, ma'am. 267 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,080 You're not going to say if I call them and they say what? 268 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,280 No, it's yes. 269 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,280 Not what. 270 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:02,440 And so I saw that old school in me being 48 years old and they get that from me. 271 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,640 And so teaching is not just in that book or on that website. 272 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,800 It's that life lesson persevering. 273 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:15,600 And I told a few students today, I said, you persevered, you read that, you read that prompt. 274 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,680 You know, you may have been a little frustrated with some of the words trying to pronounce 275 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:19,680 it. 276 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,400 You may have got a little track, you know, maybe for a little hyper or, you know, just 277 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:28,680 a little disoriented or lack of focus. 278 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,680 But I said, you bounce back. 279 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,520 And that's what it's about. 280 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,440 And many times those are the smart students. 281 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,080 The ones on the spectrum, dyslexia, ADHD, they had to creativity. 282 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,840 And you have to let that creativity bloom and blossom. 283 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,600 Because what happened many times, teachers would try to inhibit them. 284 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,600 Oh, no, you can't do it. 285 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,600 No, you can't do it that way. 286 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,200 Let them do it their way. 287 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,200 Absolutely. 288 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,120 Don't be rigid. 289 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:52,120 Yeah. 290 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:56,760 Because every student learns differently. 291 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:02,520 And I wish more teachers, especially when I was coming up in school, it's like every 292 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,040 teacher wanted to force students to learn the exact same way. 293 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:11,240 And you really do your students a disservice when you do that. 294 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,240 You really do. 295 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,760 I remember I got this come as a teacher and as a student. 296 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,200 I did my math problems and did a certain way. 297 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,080 I did it which made sense to me. 298 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,000 And they would say, Stevie, you're doing it not the way you're supposed to. 299 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,640 You're doing it wrong. 300 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:32,960 And then I said, well, if I'm doing it the way that is my way, but it's working, what's 301 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,960 the problem? 302 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,600 And I remember I worked in one school and a principal would just see the things we did 303 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,760 in class. 304 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,160 And she said, Mr. Bond, you're just outside the box. 305 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:51,080 And I said it in a fun way, but a little bit sarcastic. 306 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,680 I said, I was never in the box. 307 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,240 I said, it couldn't keep me out of the box. 308 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,240 And I mean that because while saying not to be mean to the principal, while saying is 309 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,640 I've always been different and unconventional as a student. 310 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,840 And I'm unconventional as a teacher. 311 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,120 I'm going to do it a little differently, but guess what, not only the results just as good, 312 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:16,440 but sometimes the results are greater because those kids have learned. 313 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,920 And so when you take them outside the box and don't restrain them and they understand 314 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,920 that confidence that they get, they realize they're learning for themselves. 315 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,120 They're making their own things. 316 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:28,120 They're creating. 317 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:33,120 And when you look at Bloom's taxonomy, the higher thinking is when you evaluate, you're 318 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:36,240 processing, you're making things. 319 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,480 That's what it's all about. 320 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,400 And don't be afraid to let the students build their own thing. 321 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,560 And those are the things to me as an edge kid that stick out. 322 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,040 And one of the things I'm most proud of was when I wrote Perseverance in a Strange Land 323 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,240 and that was the best of them both sold in six different countries. 324 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,360 I only wrote the introduction to the book. 325 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:56,360 Yes. 326 00:20:56,360 --> 00:21:01,640 It sold in France, in Germany, England, Australia, and in Canada. 327 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:07,920 Even now people buy the book and what's unique about the book is when COVID and the school 328 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,440 here in 2020 and George Floyd was murdered. 329 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,720 I told the kids in class just right about what you feel. 330 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,440 I'll tell them if you're angry, if you're ticked off, you know, just using expertise, 331 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,760 but right how you feel. 332 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,440 And so that was a general exercise, really. 333 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,440 Exactly. 334 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:32,560 At first, you know, I wasn't going right to a book, I just wanted to know how they're 335 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,200 feeling because some students need to have access to a computer. 336 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,480 I would say, hey, text me your journal, what you feel. 337 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,600 Some day I computer, so I said, text it to me, email it to me, whatever you can. 338 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,280 And so I saw reading some of those journals and I was like, wow, they wrote some powerful 339 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,280 stuff. 340 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:55,000 You know, some students that we missed the social norms of school, not having a prom, 341 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,800 not having a field trip, not seeing teachers. 342 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:03,040 And I once do, he said, I miss the structure of a classroom. 343 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:08,280 And sometimes we think kids are on discipline, but anytime kids want you to put them in check 344 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,000 as long as they're respectful. 345 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,920 And so I remember a young woman leave our hero, I miss the structure of a classroom 346 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,160 where the teacher is teaching, delegating, but it's a structure where they always get 347 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,160 at home. 348 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,360 No, some students say, you know, just go into a restaurant, get something to eat, getting 349 00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:31,440 a haircut is something that we took for granted. 350 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,800 Going to a prom, even for teachers, we like the prom and wish the students all when they 351 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,200 graduate those things that we used to sing. 352 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,760 And even teachers were miserable because of it. 353 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,240 And so some of the kids who play sports, they said, you know, my life is different because 354 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,880 I can't play ball. 355 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,760 You know, ball was the football basketball. 356 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,560 These were sports that kept me motivated to do well in school. 357 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,880 Now it's gone. 358 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,920 And some students said, I miss my favorite teachers. 359 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,920 I miss my coaches. 360 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,760 I miss my teachers I like. 361 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,960 And then when I had the chapter with George Floyd, I asked students black, white and biracial 362 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:16,800 and in between say, and injustice happened on TV that we just saw. 363 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,320 So it took a picture and it recorded, but it wasn't my black or white. 364 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,440 It was about something was wrong. 365 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:28,720 Yes, you could say race, but the point was that something was done wrong and people, 366 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,680 young people saying something had to be done. 367 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,120 And so they wrote that before, you know, the case was finished. 368 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,440 But here's what they were seeing. 369 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,040 They were out of school for COVID. 370 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,840 So they're at home, they're bored, depressed, miserable. 371 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,880 And now they see this happened with George Floyd and they're Lady Brianna Teller because 372 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,440 that didn't come in the news till weeks later. 373 00:23:52,440 --> 00:24:00,400 And so these kids remember that they felt the trauma and, you know, look back now, it 374 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,600 was very hard for these students. 375 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,320 Depression was big anxiety is big. 376 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,560 Because at first they said, oh, we'll get some clothes for a few weeks school. 377 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,240 Oh, what because the month? 378 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,120 Oh, no, we're going to close for the whole year. 379 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:15,640 And that just was tough. 380 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,920 I have one girl named Laura McCoy and she had a mom's a nurse. 381 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:25,000 She said the hard part for me is that when my mother comes home, I can't hug my mother 382 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,840 because she's been around these turns. 383 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:32,360 If I hugged her, she gets sick and it was hurting for her because she's that type. 384 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:33,440 She likes to hug. 385 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,240 She holds a parent, you hug her teachers, you know, and so the little things that hug 386 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,000 your mother when she gets off work. 387 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,680 One young man, his dad had a heart issue. 388 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:50,280 So he's like, I can't be around my dad because if I get COVID or if I'm around him, he has 389 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,560 a pre-existing health condition. 390 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,560 He gets sick and he has a heart condition. 391 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,440 He probably going to die. 392 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:04,600 So this was this was the platform for when that book was written. 393 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,120 And that little part where I put word search in the puzzles and just to keep people getting 394 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:10,120 bored. 395 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:15,760 And I get a little history biography, many biographies like not just Martin Luther King, 396 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,800 but also someone unsung. 397 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:24,360 Like for example, Shirley Chisholm, who my mother met years ago, how she ran for president, 398 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:29,400 you know, how she worked in Congress, you know, the ones you'll hear about often in 399 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,400 the news. 400 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,120 So like a mecca of efforts to was assassinate. 401 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:38,360 Now where's some of the unsung people that you'll hear about in the movements because 402 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:43,200 yes, great here by Martin Luther King, great here by Malcolm X, but what about the ones 403 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,640 who also paved the way, but history doesn't always talk about much. 404 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:54,680 And that's I'm glad I put a little biographies in the book of May Jemisin know the first 405 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,560 African American female astronaut. 406 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,760 So a little biography on hers. 407 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:04,600 So people that you may not hear about on a day to day basis, I did little biographies 408 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,160 of them for the accomplishment and the relevance in history. 409 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,760 So I love that this book, not the one that we're featuring tonight, but Perciven in a 410 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:20,240 strange land, your first book, I love that you use this as an opportunity to allow the 411 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,440 kids to journal and write about stuff that they were seeing in the news, stuff that they 412 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,840 were feeling traumatized by stuff that has been impacting them. 413 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,880 And a lot of them had an opportunity since they were at home a lot to reflect and think 414 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,720 about some of the things that they maybe used to complain about, which was the structure 415 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,720 and the rules. 416 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:46,000 But when you take that away, you know, the students are able to reflect and see the value 417 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,920 in some of that structure that the teachers and the school provides for them. 418 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,640 So this was a great exercise and I love that you published it. 419 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,560 And I definitely want the readers to go on to Amazon and whatever other platforms that 420 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,680 you have this book, Perciven in a Strange Land, you'll get to hear and read about stories 421 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:14,240 that really are touching and that have impacted students in a way that kind of help heal them 422 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,640 and get them through those transitional periods. 423 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,640 Right now we're going to continue this conversation in a moment, but right now I want to take a 424 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,500 quick commercial break and when we return, we're going to talk more with Dr. Stephen 425 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:31,640 Bond about his new book and his grandfather's legacy. 426 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:51,120 So stay tuned and we'll be right back. 427 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:55,520 Hey ladies, have you ever dated a married man? 428 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,160 Have you ever thought 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just wasn't ready. 462 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,680 I know it took a while for me to actually wanna smile more, but I've been trying to be a better man. 463 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,640 And I'm getting better again. 464 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,120 I kept my head above water when it felt like I was gonna drown. 465 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,840 Absolutely nowhere to go. 466 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,720 I had nobody around. 467 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,000 Overwhelmed by the pain, it's suffocated by doubt. 468 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,480 Man, it's just crazy to think that I still found a way out. 469 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,960 I did it on my own too. 470 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,960 Who am I kidding? 471 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,960 Gotta thank my wife cause I couldn't have done it without you. 472 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,400 And I thank God every single day that I found you. 473 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,800 If I die today, then the legacy is what I leave behind. 474 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,640 But I promise baby you gon' be just fine. 475 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,440 I hope we got time for a reach that line. 476 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,040 Cross that line and leave this life. 477 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,800 I know a whole lot that be on your mind. 478 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,720 Be hard for you to even think sometimes. 479 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,160 But we know that time is coming, we can't avoid it. 480 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,840 I just wanna live in the moment cause life is short. 481 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,440 I told my wife and my mama I would only let that pain strike to me. 482 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,600 It's making me stronger. 483 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,320 And I know I am the way I am cause of all of them traumatic experiences. 484 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,480 I've been through some trauma. 485 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,560 I'm ready for hell finally, I'm ready to listen now. 486 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,200 I wasn't ready then. 487 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,360 I just wasn't ready. 488 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,480 I know it took a while for me to ask you wanna smile more. 489 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,080 But I've been trying to be a better man. 490 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,160 And I'm getting better. 491 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,680 I do wanna hold you tight and fall to sleep in your arms. 492 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,960 And any problems we face, they cannot go unreserved. 493 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,480 I would trade my life for your happiness in the beat of a heart. 494 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,240 You were the lights in my path. 495 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,920 You helped me see in the dark and I found my way home. 496 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,360 It all started off by you telling me I need to stay strong. 497 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,240 I have every right to feel the way I do and that I ain't wrong. 498 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,040 But my feelings can't be expressed through my anger. 499 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,680 Man, when I tell you I've been blessed with an angel, 500 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,520 she keeps it real and she tells it. 501 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,440 Her presence is angelic. 502 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,800 Her love is my drug. 503 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,720 Her love is my psychedelic. 504 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,240 Girl, I need you forever. 505 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,000 I hope my souls live forever. 506 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,600 And I don't know how that works. 507 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,360 But God, I sure hope you let it. 508 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,000 I told my wife and my mama I would only let that pain strike to me. 509 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,160 It's making me stronger. 510 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,880 And I know I am the way I am because of all of them traumatic experiences. 511 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,040 I've been through some trauma. 512 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,640 I'm ready for help finally. 513 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,160 I'm ready to listen now. 514 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,760 I wasn't ready then. 515 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,920 I just wasn't ready. 516 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,040 I know it took a while for me to ask you want to smile more. 517 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,800 But I've been trying to be a better man. 518 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,400 And I'm getting better. 519 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,920 I know it took a while for me to ask you want to smile more. 520 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,520 But I've been trying to be a better man. 521 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,600 And I'm getting better. 522 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,200 I'm ready for help finally. 523 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,720 I'm ready to listen now. 524 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,320 I wasn't ready then. 525 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,760 I just wasn't ready. 526 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,560 You're back live with Dr. Andre Giri. 527 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,160 Hey everyone, welcome back to the show. 528 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,640 So you just finished listening to the brand new track by independent artist Jill Brown 529 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,240 and titled Better. 530 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,120 Produced by Vaughn Make Hits and is now available on all streaming platforms. 531 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,040 And I want to congratulate Jill Brown on the success of his new single which is now being 532 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:45,280 played on Red 94.5 and Lincoln, Nebraska and now other stations across the country. 533 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,320 But remember you heard him first right here on artist first radio network. 534 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,560 And if you're an author, entrepreneur or independent artist who'd like your latest 535 00:33:54,560 --> 00:34:00,400 project featured on our show, send my team an email at livewithdoctorandrejiri at gmail.com 536 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,840 and we'll get you set up. 537 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,440 Now if you're just joining us, our guest today is Dr. Steven Bond who is an educator 538 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,480 and author of the best selling new book unsung but forever remembered which is a story which 539 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:18,560 honors the legacy of the man who invented the turn signal David G Bond who also happens to 540 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,480 be his grandfather. 541 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:26,560 So before the show we talked a little bit about your background as an educator in some of the 542 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,640 ways that you engage your students and your passion for learning. 543 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,800 In this segment I want to talk more about your book. 544 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:40,400 But first before we get into the book, tell us a little bit about your grandfather David George 545 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,400 Bond, his background and why it was important for you to preserve his legacy. 546 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,280 Thank you Dr. Jerry. 547 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,240 My grandfather was David George Bond. 548 00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:56,800 He was a simple but intelligent man from the country in Low County in North Carolina called 549 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,440 Bertie and he lived in Windsor, North Carolina. 550 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:07,600 And so he was a man that did not have much formal education really until he went and went to 551 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,800 an all-byte boarding school in Mawton County, North Carolina. 552 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,200 And so before that time he just worked in a sharecropping farm. 553 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,760 You know, hogs and peanuts, tobacco and cotton. 554 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,360 And so as he go up to the boarding school he has a vision that says you know what 555 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:30,400 cars should have single lights because back then cars that have single lights you had to 556 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,240 stick your arm out the single left right, no the signal. 557 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:38,400 Also the brake lights were not lighting up when you slowed down. 558 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:46,720 So my grandfather at the age of 16 started venting a signal light to cars, the blinker. 559 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:52,240 And so he got materials from the school, he working in when he was doing his vocation classes 560 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:53,440 and just be up building it. 561 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:59,360 And then he got to a point where he had it working where if you pressed it, you know, 562 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,200 when you pressed the light it was single left right. 563 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,320 And so it also would have a brake light. 564 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:13,040 And so what he did he had his sister which was my great aunt do an application to have a patent 565 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,000 for it. 566 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:20,320 And so at the age of 20 he had a patent March 3rd, 1927. 567 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,000 And he had one of the first original patents for the signal light. 568 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,280 And here's that all the parts the signal for left and right blinking and also a brake light. 569 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,640 And so to make this invention at the age of 20 was phenomenal. 570 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:40,000 He had blueprint on how it would look, how it would work, step by step by step. 571 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,440 And what he also did because you know this was a Jim Crow South, 572 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,920 he made sure he went through the proper protocol. 573 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:51,600 He made sure that he applied for it like he was supposed to give that information for each part. 574 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,720 And then he had signed off on it and he had a lawyer sign off for as well as lawyer name was Larry Lacey. 575 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:03,440 And because I did about three or four months of research to find out about this patent. 576 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:12,160 And so in March of 1927, it was officially considered a patent by US government and he had a patent 577 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,120 number as well. 578 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,880 So the US patent number for the invention, he had the drawings, 579 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:22,320 destination for it just like any other patent has now even when you invent something. 580 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:30,080 Now the issue came where patents expired have expiration dates almost like a driver's license. 581 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:34,000 Now 40 in the Jim Crow South, he was not able to 582 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,680 no sell it to one of the big companies like GM was around at the time. 583 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,840 He would not even sell it to a big company. 584 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,400 And so along with that, he was not able to benefit financially from it. 585 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,200 And as time went on, when it was time for the patent to expire, 586 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,440 he was trying to get money, raise money to renew it. 587 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,800 And so he tried and tried, and to be my aunt, which was his oldest daughter who's still alive, 588 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,040 she's 85, he went to three banks in Berty County. 589 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,800 They all rejected him and he was hurt by it because 590 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:12,080 nowadays you have good events, you go to a show like Shark Tank, they'll fund you the money. 591 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,040 And even, you know, you're still get a substantial amount. 592 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,360 So even when you watch Shark Tank, you know, there's so many ideas, but they're still getting 593 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,080 millions for it. 594 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,760 So he kept looking, kept looking. 595 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,960 He's trying to find people that to help them. 596 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,520 And he even went up to people, my aunt told me, he said, 597 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,480 if you're half with it, argue half the profit. 598 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,080 And they also be careful because one, people try stills idea. 599 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,480 Two, being African-American male in the Jim Crow South, whether we're lynchings in the 600 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,600 counties nearby, as I did the research, there were lynchings in the counties nearby him. 601 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:52,000 Martin County, he had lynchings, even Pasquitain County and the other counties in Eastern 602 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,040 Carolina had lynchings in the last few years. 603 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,680 So as African-American male, you have to be really careful. 604 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:07,760 So, unfortunately, very, very, and he, yes, and he disclosed discreetly that he did get 605 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,640 some threatening letters. 606 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,960 Now, there was some good letters where people didn't want to buy, 607 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,440 wanted attempted to buy the invention, but you have to be careful because if too many people 608 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,680 knew about it in a small town, they would try to kill them before they could describe it. 609 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,480 And it was told that my aunt, they did get some harassing letters saying they would try to 610 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,680 threaten to kill his children. 611 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,760 And he voted for Tom. 612 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,080 So they said, well, we'll kill your 10 children. 613 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,640 And my grandfather was scared of people. 614 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,880 Yeah, it's sad. 615 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,440 And so he was like, well, I'm not scared of anyone, but how do you people know I got 10 children? 616 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,320 And so he laid back a little bit. 617 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,080 No, he never showed a letter to anyone. 618 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,120 And so the patent expired. 619 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:55,040 Now, the one thing which might be my next book is I would definitely like to know who did buy 620 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,800 the patent and got the money compensation for the invention. 621 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,360 And for me, there's no bitterness, none at all. 622 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:09,280 My question is, I just want to know because more than anything, I just want my grandfather 623 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,080 to be invindicated. 624 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:15,040 In other words, I want to pick up a book of inventors, not just Black History Month. 625 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,920 And I wanted to say David George Bond had a patent for the signal light for cars. 626 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,120 So get the credit. 627 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,080 So not about money, but I'm curious. 628 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,000 I would like to know who brought it because, you know, obviously had to pay for it. 629 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,200 And they had the money for it where my grandfather didn't. 630 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,960 And so the great part of the story is that he was never bitter. 631 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,920 He was resilient. 632 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,280 He raised 10 children and then they were on adopted. 633 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,640 A young girl that was abandoned at a Greyhound bus station. 634 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,400 And he named her, well, my grandparents, name her Priscilla Gail Bond. 635 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,760 My grandmother's name was Priscilla's and she got the last name Bond. 636 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,200 So here's a male kid. 637 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,880 Did she still live in Dr. Bond, Priscilla? 638 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,960 No, unfortunately, she did pass. 639 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,680 Several years ago, she did pass. 640 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,400 Well, yeah, it is sad. 641 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:12,400 And one reason why I had that urgency to write this is because most of his children have passed. 642 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,440 Right now, currently only two of his children. 643 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:21,440 One is my uncle William, who's in Germany, Mannheim, Germany, and my auntie who lives in 644 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,560 Windsor, North Carolina, near Bible, this occurred. 645 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:31,120 And so the other nine, my dad included with that, his past and he passed two years ago. 646 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,200 So I really have such an urgency to get this done. 647 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,400 While at least some of them were alive for my auntie, a copy of the book in her hand. 648 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,160 And it cries a nephew. 649 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,560 This is like for my father. 650 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,400 And she cried about it. 651 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,200 I was like, yes, auntie, this is for y'all. 652 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,120 That was your day. 653 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,080 That's my grandfather. 654 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,320 Who I saw, but that was your father. 655 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,600 And so I'm glad this to be put in the book. 656 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:02,000 And I even put down all 11 of his children in the book, their names and everything. 657 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,680 Because I felt they deserve that because here he give up on life. 658 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,120 He still raised children. 659 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,600 He's still at businesses. 660 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,560 He would know self fertilizer and is farming and he left this earth. 661 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,400 He built a house in 1956 from the ground up. 662 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,240 So he's a built a house that's still owned by the bond family. 663 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,160 And it's still in Windsor, North Carolina. 664 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:30,880 So it's a story that instead of tragedy, he's persistent, persevering in triumphs 665 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:37,040 and raised 10 children who were doing, who did well for themselves, you know, or 11. 666 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:44,240 And grandchildren who are leading the bond legacy and are doing well and want to honor him 667 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:46,640 by having his book written on his behalf. 668 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:52,400 And so I'm just honored that this was able to be printed when I found his patent. 669 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,280 I have like a three month Google search patent search, nationwide search and every other type 670 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:57,760 of search. 671 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,480 I was like, amen, I found it. 672 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,720 What does name on it? 673 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:04,160 What the patent number on it? 674 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,680 What is drawing with the signature? 675 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,280 Because you have the verges signature. 676 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,560 I like, wow. 677 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,000 Is it awesome? 678 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,760 I've searched through Google patents and, you know, that's a lot of information to way through. 679 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:21,360 So the fact that you put all this research together and was able to find this stuff is just remarkable. 680 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,400 Well, thank you, Dr. Jerry. 681 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:30,160 There were times when, you know, I was to be up late two, three in the morning just trying to figure 682 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,440 out, just trying to find it. 683 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,360 I'm like, okay, I got to keep looking. 684 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,560 I got to keep looking. 685 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,240 And that was my motivation as well. 686 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:37,840 But it took a long time. 687 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,360 You know, times I was like, you know what? 688 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,320 I'm just giving up. 689 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,840 But I was like, I can't. 690 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,120 I can find it. 691 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,440 And so when I did, to me, that was the biggest accomplishment to find it because we have a 692 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,400 US patent number. 693 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,440 It doesn't matter who bought it. 694 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:58,400 It still has that number and a person who originally had it named on it. 695 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,440 So it has to David George Vaughn, Leibniz Quitsna, North Carolina. 696 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,360 And the date it was submitted January 1926. 697 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:16,640 And the date it was officially confirmed as a legal patent, March 3rd, 1927. 698 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,800 So for me, it is an honor. 699 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,680 So you were 20 years old when the patent got approved? 700 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,520 Yes, he's 20 years old. 701 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,320 That's it. 702 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,240 And he was 16 when he started the business. 703 00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:27,520 Right. 704 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,320 So that's what I was talking to you about yesterday when we had our pre-interview meeting. 705 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,480 Your grandfather was really a prodigy. 706 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,120 16, 17, 18, 19 years old. 707 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,160 There's no telling how many inventions he had. 708 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,400 He just submitted and got a patent for one. 709 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:49,120 He could have had numerous inventions that he didn't even apply for because of all the 710 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,480 hill he went through trying to get the first one and the threats and everything. 711 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:59,040 There's no telling how that discouraged him from pursuing other patents that he may want to get approved. 712 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,720 Exactly. 713 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:02,640 He was definitely an electric prodigy. 714 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,920 When he came to like Trissy, he was just a genius. 715 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:12,480 My grandfather, before he was even cool, had motion sensor lights in his house. 716 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,760 Somewhere it's the lights go off. 717 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,720 The moment someone walked in the room, it would just light up. 718 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:19,440 Whether they're a patent for it or not at the time, don't know. 719 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,000 But he came with so many ideas. 720 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,880 He came up with a whole, a coordinating whole that moved automatically. 721 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,600 And so he didn't have things in his backyard. 722 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,240 He had things in the back of his house. 723 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,240 Whole bunch of gadgets he invented. 724 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:35,760 And he didn't even try to get a patent. 725 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,160 And there was a frustration because I remember one time my father telling me, 726 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,440 because they didn't talk about it much. 727 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,040 It was like legend. 728 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,320 But one time he didn't make a comment where he thought about patent or something else. 729 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,880 And my grandmother was like, well, why? 730 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,720 So I'm going to try to steal your invention again. 731 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,480 And so, yeah, it's still the frustration. 732 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,160 He didn't show it, the slave much. 733 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:55,680 But I'm sure he was. 734 00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:01,360 I'm sure he's thinking, dang, I had $1 billion invention that I didn't get credit for. 735 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,480 Why spend the time, the energy to do it again? 736 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,600 And I'm not getting credit. 737 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,800 But yes, he was definitely a prodigy to invent the age 16. 738 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:15,840 Imagine if he did get the credit in compensation. 739 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,840 This man could have been Albert Einstein or Lewis Latimer, these other, 740 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,840 he was definitely a genius and prodigy. 741 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,480 To think about this as 16 and say, wow, car chefs signals. 742 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,080 So you know what to go and left or right. 743 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,640 And knowing to think about that, like, wow, let me do something. 744 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,680 Let me create it. 745 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,880 Let me have it blink. 746 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:40,000 So people driving several feet away can see the light blinking. 747 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,760 Oh, so that's in the left or see the light to the right. 748 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,000 So instead of when it's raining and you can't see someone hand sticking out, 749 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,560 I can see the light because my grandfather, Joe, he said, listen, 750 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,520 for a dark-tem people, A, if a driving in the dark, 751 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,400 you ain't going to be able to see no left arm sticking out the window. 752 00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,760 You're not going to be able to see that. 753 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,440 So he was right. 754 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,960 And he also said, if it's raining, go and stick the arm out. 755 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,080 Roll the window down, in the rain, stick the arm out and say, 756 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,000 I'm sitting on the left or sitting on the right. 757 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,800 You know what? 758 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,400 I'm just going to keep my arm in the car and keep it dry. 759 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:20,640 So it was simple, but such a wonderful, 760 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:26,560 a wonderful, meticulously crafted device. 761 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,080 It was. 762 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,400 I can't imagine having to stick your hand out of the window to signal. 763 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,440 And you made a good point. 764 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,440 If it's dark and you're a dark skin on top of that. 765 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,720 Exactly. 766 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:39,040 Right. 767 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,320 So that's a safety issue. 768 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,120 So yeah, like you said, a simple invention, 769 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,480 but innovative to, you know, just to say the least. 770 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,960 And yeah, it's still used today. 771 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,400 And like you said, it's on forklifts. 772 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,760 It's on all types of vehicles, just not cars. 773 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,200 And so there's no telling how many billions and billions 774 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,080 of dollars this invention has generated. 775 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,560 You've got to write a book about, you know, following up 776 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,040 and trying to get in contact with that family, 777 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,960 not so much for monetary benefit, but just to make that connection 778 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,520 and to see who they are and what their legacy is. 779 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,120 And just to get more information, that could be your next book. 780 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:24,720 And you know, another good book idea would be about your relative Priscilla. 781 00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:28,160 That story about how your grandparents adopted her 782 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,480 and that whole thing, I think that's a story that may actually need to be told as well. 783 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,680 No, that's a fascinating story too. 784 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,440 And you're not the first person to say that because here he had 10 children. 785 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,360 And his children worked on the sharecropping farm. 786 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,560 And became successful. 787 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,960 And here you adopt one legally. 788 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,960 No, people say, wait, you already had 10? 789 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,080 You adopted another one. 790 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,840 And that in itself, you know, is an amazing story. 791 00:48:53,840 --> 00:49:01,360 And even with my aunt who's still alive, my auntie Ethel Vaughn Reed Goddard, 792 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:06,320 where she was assistant superintendent in Bird Teague County School, 793 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:12,480 being the first female, period, to be in the superintendent's office in Bird Teague County. 794 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,120 That in itself was amazing. 795 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,000 Amazing. And she went to Elizabeth State State. 796 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,160 She also went to San Diego State, which got masters and she was a master of math. 797 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,600 And back then there still was a lot of sexism where women were not supposed to be scientists 798 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,480 or mathematicians. 799 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,040 So she was another tough person to say, listen, yes, I'm a woman. 800 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,320 I'm a mathematician. 801 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,880 And yes, I'm assistant superintendent in the school system. 802 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:45,840 And so, you know, we as bonds, we've had some churro blazing positions and accomplishments. 803 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:52,480 And so, you know, thing about my auntie, Pysiligale bond and my auntie Ethel, 804 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,880 you know, Reed bond Goddard, you know, there's a couple other stories that 805 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,560 definitely should be told that unsung just like my grandfather. 806 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,200 And it's intriguing and fascinating. 807 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,200 And it shows the level of perseverance. 808 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,960 Because sometimes we do get upset. 809 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,120 But my grandfather said, you know what? 810 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,600 Yes, I did not get compensation as a venture. 811 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,680 But yet I'm going to raise 10 kids. 812 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,920 We may not have the biggest house because that house, he raised them in maybe about 813 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,200 1500 square feet. 814 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,440 And you have a wife and 10 kids. 815 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,840 I know they all want to live that because the age gap. 816 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,280 So I know someone going to college. 817 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,680 But the point is that to raise that family in a house, 818 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:42,160 and have it paid for and so owned by the bond, that shows the accomplishments 819 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,960 and where it's all that he had. 820 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,800 He and that the frustration get to him. 821 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,080 I'm sure at the times is like, you know what, man, I probably could own on the 822 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,280 Bertie County, at least I could own Windsor. 823 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,320 You know what I mean? 824 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,640 I should have owned every house on this block. 825 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,360 But he was a humble man. 826 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,880 And, you know, I remember growing up raising in New York, we would visit 827 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,640 North Carolina almost every year and we see the cotton fields and we would say, 828 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:11,600 wow, our ancestors picked all the cotton fields by themselves by hand. 829 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,280 They picked the peanuts out the ground by hand. 830 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,480 You know what I mean? 831 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:21,520 They picked the tobacco and did all that work manually. 832 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,000 And like, wow, that's the perseverance of a people. 833 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,760 And that lets you speak to the strength that they had. 834 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:35,360 And for me, this book is honoring my ancestors and that's the point of it all. 835 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:40,240 And, you know, I looked some time to picture my grandfather, the publisher did an awesome job 836 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:48,000 with the digital pick because I found an old pick of my grandfather back from like 1964, 837 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,120 a long time ago. 838 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,680 He had on the black, you know, a black suit and a bow tie. 839 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:54,480 And those know me. 840 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,080 I love wearing bow ties as well. 841 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,200 And so I got that picture. 842 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,160 And so it's funny now. 843 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,440 The picture was the cover of the book. 844 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,880 Yeah, the picture was on the cover, but what happened was digitalized because when I showed 845 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,360 the publisher, they said it was like too old to like try to put it in the book, but 846 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,080 digitalized it. 847 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,320 He did a wonderful job recreating because that was my grandfather. 848 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:23,600 And so the picture, I mean, the back, I went to bow ties well and my dad loved bow ties 849 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,320 as well. 850 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,520 So it was like three generations of bow tie wearing black men that was sharp and intelligent. 851 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:38,000 Now it's safe between my grandfather, my father, myself, my grandfather, my father was more 852 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,240 intelligent than I was because my father was an engineer at Connassian in New York. 853 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:48,080 So electricity and understanding electricity was just in that DNA. 854 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,360 Yes, indeed. 855 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:57,840 Listen, everyone, this book is called Unsung, but forever remembered the man who invented 856 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,960 the automobile turn signal, David G. Bond. 857 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,760 I'm so glad that we got to have you on this evening and we got to share with our listeners 858 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,960 a little bit about your grandfather's legacy. 859 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:14,720 I think he left a great legacy, not just the invention, but like you said, the 11 children 860 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:20,960 and countless grandchildren who are, you know, from educators to politicians, entrepreneurs, 861 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:27,280 perseverance, not acquiescing to bitterness, although he had plenty of reasons to be bitter 862 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:33,520 with the way he was treated and the way his invention was or legacy was kind of stolen 863 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,520 from him. 864 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:42,720 But I love that he had a persevering spirit and that I definitely see that in you. 865 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:46,800 I love the fact that you took the opportunity to do all this research. 866 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,400 I know it took you a while to do it, but the book is really beautiful. 867 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:56,960 It's a quick read, but I think that it's a story that needed to be told. 868 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:04,000 I look forward to seeing you on TV shows and maybe some other productions coming down the 869 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,880 line that may kind of further put your grandfather's legacy out there. 870 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,800 But I want to thank you for your time today on this show. 871 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,760 Before we wrap up, tell our listeners where they can connect with you online and on social 872 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,760 media so they can find out more about you. 873 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:22,760 Sure. 874 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:31,200 My Instagram is Dr. Stephen Bond, one word, B-R-S-T-E-P-A-T-N-B-O-N-B. 875 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:36,080 I'm also on Twitter, Stephen Bond 74. 876 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:42,800 I also have the TikTok, Dr. Stephen Bond, just as well, and both on my Instagram and 877 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,320 also on my TikTok. 878 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,920 I do have some of the bills I've done with my students from chewing basketballs and giving 879 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:58,560 Supreme Court cases to imitating TikTok challenges. 880 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,280 We did an imitation where they had to slap the teacher challenge where the student act 881 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:09,400 like they're going to slap me, but they gave the breakdown in history of Supreme Court cases. 882 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,920 We did parodies of it. 883 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:17,400 We did also the crate challenge where people, which I saw was silly on TikTok, they were 884 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,000 going on the low crate and falling. 885 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,320 I faked like I was going through the crate challenge. 886 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,280 I had a student which I have every year, I challenged students because they memorized 887 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:32,520 the preamble of the Constitution and got the point they can say the whole preamble of the 888 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,360 Constitution, I give them $5. 889 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,080 Well, one year it got to a point where I had to decline it and just give them two bucks 890 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,080 a piece. 891 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,640 About 100 students remember the whole preamble. 892 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,960 That video had about $20,000 views. 893 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,800 That's the type of engagement we need from our teachers. 894 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,200 But Dr. Bond, listen, we're running short on time. 895 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,400 Thank you again for all of your passion that you put into your work. 896 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,680 Thank you for the engagement that you have with your students. 897 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,600 I know they'll remember it from years from now. 898 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,320 So I'm pretty sure they'll circle back around to you after they've had their great success 899 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,640 remembering all the love that you put into your work. 900 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:09,640 Thank you again. 901 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,120 That's our show for tonight, folks. 902 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:17,000 Join us again on December 28th while I have Freddie Beloy, comedian Freddie Beloy on. 903 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,480 So that should be a really interesting and fun show. 904 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,440 We'll see you again. 905 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,320 Thank you again for tuning in and have a good night, everyone. 906 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,320 Take care. 907 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,320 Bye. 908 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:48,320 Bye.