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Dr. Jerry, you got the whole world waiting.

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Been ready for you to start the conversation.

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No point of view, we got the haters confused.

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Leave it up to you to bring us all the good news.

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Positive vibes and the sex appeal to Dr. Andre Jerry.

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Can I get an interview?

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You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you.

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Hello everybody, good evening and welcome to another episode of Live with Dr. Andre Jerry.

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I want to thank you for tuning in tonight especially since this is the first show in our new time slot.

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8 to 9 p.m. Eastern, every 4th Wednesday of each month.

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I appreciate you sharing an hour of your evening with me, supporting this broadcast and the Artist First Radio Network.

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Listen, you guys are in for an awesome show tonight.

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So, if you've been following the show the past two months, you've noticed that we touch on a different topic each episode.

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Well, this month, in light of the midterm elections coming up in just a few weeks and with early voting already taking place in many states,

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I felt compelled to have somewhat of a political discourse on a topic that's not often talked about.

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In tonight's show, we're going to focus on a segment of the electorate that's often misunderstood.

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They're an underrepresented minority within a minority.

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I'm talking about black Republicans.

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In recent headlines, we've been hearing a lot of negative press about prominent black Republicans, namely Candace Owens,

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Kanye West, and Herschel Walker, who've been criticized by many in the black community due to their antics,

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ideology, and controversy surrounding their personal lives.

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Now, tonight's show is not intended to litigate the actions of those individuals I just named,

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nor is it my intention to speak negatively of them tonight.

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Instead, the objective of tonight's show is to draw a distinction between prominent black Republicans that are now emerging to the forefront

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and the everyday black Republicans that may be our neighbors, colleagues, or relatives.

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It's important to note that while Kanye, Candace, and Herschel may be a few of the prominent black Republicans of our day,

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not all black Republicans are a monolith.

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Tonight, we're having a frank discussion with a self-described black Republican who's also a retired Army combat veteran

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with 20 years of service to our country.

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This gentleman is an avid reader and a lifelong learner, completing four years of multidisciplinary studies with a concentration in criminal justice.

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He's also an accomplished student of the culinary arts at Hale's College, where he was selected among top graduates by the Augusta National

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Country Club to display his culinary skills at the 2019 Masters Tournament.

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In recognition of his service, he received the prestigious white jacket at the Masters, the only graduate from Hale's College to earn one.

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My guest today is a proud father of three remarkable grown children who are making their mark in real estate and jurisprudence.

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He also mentors young men in his community, encouraging greatness, integrity, and an entrepreneurial mindset.

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He also happens to be one of my best friends.

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Ladies and gentlemen, please help me welcome to the show Mr. Craig Whitehead.

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Craig, how's it going, brother?

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Hey, it's going awesome tonight, Dr. Jarrett.

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Awesome. I'm very glad to be here tonight, sir.

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Well, hey, listen, I'm happy to have you on, Craig.

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We've been talking about doing this show for a while now, so I'm finally so excited to have you on here.

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So, listen, I know that we know each other very well, but a few moments ago, I shared a few highlights about your background and your accomplishments,

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but I want you, for the listeners who are listening to this evening, they haven't had a chance to meet you.

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Explain to them in your own words who Craig Whitehead is.

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Okay, we're not trying to.

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First of all, I want to just say thank you for inviting me to your show tonight, and thank all the listeners that are in on tonight's show.

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A little bit about me. I'm not trying to rehash everything that you went over tonight, but I do take pride in retiring from the military.

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I did retire from the military with two combat tours.

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It was almost taken out on my first combat tour. It spent like two days in intensive care, but I made it out and made it back to the house.

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Outside of that, I'm a young man who grew up in Mississippi up until around the 10th grade.

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It's when I migrated over into Louisiana where I completed my schooling, and then I started my career there in Louisiana.

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As a young high school student, I worked at Walmarts for a few years doing high school and after high school.

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At a certain point, I left that and went into law enforcement and became a police officer for a couple years.

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And then I set out to accomplish my childhood dreams, which I made at the table when I was about six, maybe seven years old.

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My mother, she asked my dad to take it, but she said, Craig, what do you want to be when you grow older?

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I said, my mom, I said, I want to be a police officer and I want to join Army and go to war.

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And I don't know that it's kind of crazy saying that back then, but I was able to accomplish both of those goals.

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Police officer first in joining Army and, of course, Desert Storm back in 1991 allowed me to go and complete that goal, which is to go to war.

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And I will tell you, my war in any capacity is not fun. It plays a lot on the mind, especially when you leave.

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So yes, I do also suffer from PTSD, but I still have a pretty decent mind.

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I'm an avid reader. As you stated earlier, I love reading nonfiction books.

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I mainly read books in law, criminal justice, and a big reader on history of my people.

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I always want to go back and see where we came from, what happened to us, how it happened to us, and things of that nature.

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And try to encourage others, hey, read up on your history, because a lot of our history was stolen from us.

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And it's important that you go back and identify who you were in order to be able to move forward, productive.

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I also hike. I love hiking. I love kayaking. I love cycling. And I'm also a licensed firearm instructor.

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I consider myself to people, pro-military and pro-constitutionists.

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So that's kind of a little bit about me. I'm a lay-back guy, but I love adventurous things, as you know.

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Absolutely. Well, first, thank you, Craig, for your service in both law enforcement and in the military.

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And I appreciate you giving your or our listeners some insight into your background and your personal journey.

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That definitely helps our audience, particularly those that are more on the liberal and progressive side.

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It helps understand the person behind the political stance, you know, because oftentimes black Republicans are mischaracterized by the black community.

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They use words such as fill-outs, anti-black, uncle Tom's, house Negroes, just all types of horrible things.

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But people would be surprised to know that you are actually very pro-black and extremely knowledgeable about black history as it relates to politics and even our true lineage.

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Right. You know, it's kind of funny that you say, you know, that people call you a sellout. And I get that.

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I don't have a problem with people saying, I just look at that and just saying that they're ignorant. Ignorance is not a bad word.

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It just means that you just don't know you haven't came into the light yet.

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And so I would tell you this. Yes, I am fully black, skin and heart and soul.

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But I would also tell you this, Dr. Jerry, that as a young man who mentioned during his campaign that if you don't vote for him, you're not black.

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So I've teased and I tell people I'm not black because, no, I'm not going to vote that way.

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And I have my reasons, which we'll get into later on in the show.

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But I grew up in a democratic family for those that are listening. I wasn't always a Republican.

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I only became a Republican once I retired from the military. So that just shows you how long I was in that mindset.

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I should I say I was in that woke state. So I didn't wake up until I actually left the military.

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But that's kind of what I look at that when it comes down and talking about a sellout.

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And I know you were trying to be respectful of by not saying any particular names, but for anyone that's caught that he's referring to President Biden.

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When he was on the campaign trail, campaigning for president, I believe he was on the breakfast club.

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Breakfast club and he made a statement something to the effect of, well, if you don't vote for me, you're not black.

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And a lot of people took offense to that. I didn't particularly take offense to it because I understood what he was trying to say.

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It came out really horribly. And if you know Joe Biden, he's known for his famous gas and just saying stuff that just really could have came out or came across a better way.

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But I certainly understand why you took offense to that as a lot of people did.

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So I just want to clarify that for our listeners.

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But you are extremely knowledgeable about black history and even relate some things to me and just casual conversations that we were having about the history of black people in the Republican Party.

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Can you talk a little about that?

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Well, the black people in the Republican Party, well, not that many of us. If you combine us all up and do the separation, you will see how many you have Democratic or source.

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How many people, how many blacks you have for Democrats, how many blacks you have for Republicans.

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The Republicans is a small percentage of the black population of the votes. However, I consider the black Republicans to be more knowledgeable in the area of the values and morals of the party.

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As I shared with you on many occasions, I had to do some research years ago and I had to look up the values and the morals of each party.

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Because remember, I grew up under one umbrella, which is the Democratic Party and that's all I ever knew.

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So when I began to read, and I wasn't always a reader, again, I didn't start reading until my military career. I started reading and I just couldn't stop.

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I picked up book after book after book. And one thing I do realize is that if you read, you can gain your freedom mentally.

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And so that actually helped me out a lot. So to be able to read and understand the different values of each party, my values lined up more with the Republican Party than it did the Democratic Party.

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And I just sat back and I'm like, wow, I can't believe I've been voting this way the whole entire time. But again, I was picking at that time.

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And so when I shift, when I made my shift, not only did I shift and vote on the right, I also had a humongous shift in my mindset.

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So you can vote whatever, but you got to have the mindset to go with it. And I love the mind shift that I made with the Republican Party than the mindset that I had with the Democratic Party.

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For an example, handouts.

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All I knew in life growing up is we need to vote Democrat because the Democratic Party is going to give us things at no cost. A very, very low cost.

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Whereas the Republican Party, you had to work for what you wanted.

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And I said, hmm, which one of these is better for me? Well, I believe in working for what you want. I got that from the military.

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The military is very structured for those that were in the military before. And I allow the military to change my mindset.

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My mindset wasn't always like that. I was on the bandwagon of a Democrat. Hey, I'm going to vote on the Democrat side because they're going to give me this.

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They're going to give me that. But keep in mind, anytime the government gives you something free, that's always Dr. Jerry's strings attached.

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And I promise you, you're not going to like those strings that are attached. But it's nothing you can do about it once you have accepted whatever they have given you.

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I always would choose now, and I teach my children who are now grown adults. Yeah, you make your own decision on which party you vote for.

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But this is why your father vote this way. I vote this way because of the moral values that they have.

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And plus, just to take a small snippet out of this, that's other things like, you know, we don't, the Republican Party don't believe in taxing the rich with higher taxes.

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You know, where the Democrat side, they want them taxed the rich with higher taxes. For what?

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These people had ideas in the kitchen or they had ideas in a garage and it became fruition and they are now able to make millions of dollars off of it.

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You can do the same thing. Just go to your kitchen table or go to your garage, create your own idea, put it in motion and now you can become wealthy.

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Dr. Jerry, you know I'm an entrepreneur by heart. I've been an entrepreneur for many years.

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And it's the mindset that I had to shift. I don't need a handout. What I need is a fair and equal opportunity to be able to make it.

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And if I continue to get handouts, then my seat belt is on. I can't move.

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So I had to take that seat belt off, get up and go out and create my own wealth.

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A lot of people, I'm just speaking generally, will blame another culture for their demise. No, you have the same opportunity.

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Just get up and move forward. And you mentioned earlier about there are a lot of black Republicans, not as many as black Democrats,

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but we're growing in numbers because people are waking up. And I try to wake up many people. As a matter of fact, during this past election,

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I was talking to many people about, hey, be careful what you're doing. And of course they didn't want to hear me, hear me.

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They just didn't want to hear me. But shortly after that, I can almost say probably 70, if not 80% of those individuals who I know personally came back to me and said,

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man, I should have listened to you. I said, hey, I tried to tell you, you know, you got to be careful of what you do. Look at the party values.

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That party has never done anything for us. They always promise us things. Somebody's going to say, well, the Republican Party ain't done nothing for us either.

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You're exactly right. But here's the deal. The Republican Party ain't promised you nothing either. Whereas that other party promised you things that they don't,

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they only promise you that until they get in the office. And once they get in the office, they go to do another thing.

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I mean, you look back, and again, I'm not going to call them names, but we've had past presidents who we thought they got in the office,

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and one particular who I won't name, I congratulate him on making it. But what did you do for our people? Nothing. What did you do? Absolutely nothing.

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What executive order have you signed for our people? You did nothing. And so the Republican Party just say, just come to work.

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We're going to give you a fair opportunity to be productive in life. And that's all they want you to do.

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Now, that's no perfect party, and I get that. We all want to join hands, Dr. Jarrett, and sing Kumbaya. It's just not going to happen.

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We will always have division. Division first started, if those that do believe in the Bible, division first started in the book of Genesis when God separated life from the dark.

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That's division. You're going to always have division as you go through life. We've got the left. We have the right.

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The left talks about the right. The right talks about the left. Then somebody says, why can't we all just get along? I'm sorry. We will never all just get along.

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It's just the nature of the beast. You have to be smart enough to choose the right decisions for your party and cash your vote in what's best interest for you and your values.

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And so I choose to escape from that party and come over to the Republican side, and that's what I will be until I leave this earth unless something drastically changes.

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Well, I definitely am tracking your point of view. So far, you haven't said anything that I take issue with. So you made some really good points.

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And one thing you reminded me of during one of our recent conversations, and I almost forgot about this, but it actually was the Republican Party that advocated for abolitionists and for the ending of slavery.

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And that's something, you know, most people know that, but then there are a huge swath of people that aren't familiar with that.

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So that's something that you reminded me of recently. And we know that. Well, go ahead. Go with each your point.

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Right. And so that's my argument to some people sometime. As I say, now, listen, why, just why, just a hypothetical.

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Why would you want to vote cash your vote to a party that had us enslaved, raped our sisters, our mothers, killed our fathers, shot our brothers to death?

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Why would you want to support a vote for that party when the other party that came about, which was a group of Caucasian men of North who didn't who were considered anti slavery, who joined together and and formed the Republican Party.

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And the South, of course, says at some point during the game, we want to push our agenda of North. In other words, we want to take slavery and push it up north.

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Right. Well, the North says no, no, we, our blacks of North are going to continue to be free. Of course, you know, what happened after that war broke out north against the South and the North one.

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You know, that was a song years ago, said it to South what a one we had had it made and watch this for many a year. They should sing that song.

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I didn't know what I was saying. I was just singing the song because they had a good tone to it. But had the South one, you and I probably wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

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We'll probably be out in the cotton fields of Georgia picking cotton right about now. But the North did win.

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And so it was the Republican Party that set us free, not the Democratic Party. So I cannot support someone who had my ancestors enslaved and did all that damage to him.

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I take offense to that. And so I'm glad I left. What I what I'm sad about is I didn't wake up earlier and see that. That's what I'm sad about.

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And basically, that's what I'm going to say about that.

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Well, listen, what is this song that you're referencing earlier about when the South, if the South one, what I can remember the song.

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I think it was like a country song that came out. All I knew, all I know was that lyric. I could not sing the song for you wouldn't want to sing the song for you.

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And I know if I was probably to Google it, the song actually pop up or something like that. But it boils down to at some point, we all have to wake up and see the reality.

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I give an example for those that may be listening. That's a book that I'll try to encourage my people to read. Start here.

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This book hopefully will wake you up. The book is called The Destruction of Black Civilization. I'll say that again. The Destruction of Black Civilization.

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It's written by Chancellor Williams. Chancellor Williams. That is an excellent book that will take you back and bring you all the way forward.

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Now, it's going to blow your mind with some things that happened back then because it definitely blew my mind and educated me.

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And then once you finish reading the Destruction of Black Civilization because it was destroyed, then I will tell you to go forward and read another book to show you a blueprint, a plan on how to move forward.

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And the name of this book is called Our Nomics. P-O-W-E-R-N-O-M-I-C-S. Power Nomics.

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Now, that's the national plan to empower Black Americans. Nothing but a blueprint.

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Put it thick book, but I read it in its entirety. It's written by Claude C-L-A-U-D Anderson.

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Claude Anderson, the book is called Power Nomics. It's a powerful book. Both of those two books, just along, should make you really, really consider what you're doing.

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Because to me, every time we cast a vote on that Democratic side, we are slapping our ancestors in the face.

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Because remember, us as a Black people, we voted Republican up until the late 20s. We all voted Republicans.

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Many of us lost our lives because, see, the Democratic Party knew that we did not want to be enslaved.

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And the Republicans say, we don't want you to be enslaved. Well, you know, Lincoln got in the office and Lincoln signed us out of slavery.

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Now, that was a great thing now. Sometimes I ask people, you know what party Lincoln was in?

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He was a Democratic. No, he wasn't. He was a Republican. You know? And he got us out of slavery. Here's the thing with me. I want to stay out of slavery.

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Now, there's two types of slavery. There's the physical slavery of you outpicking cotton physically.

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There's the mental slavery of what's happening right now. The government gives you handouts, handouts, example, just one example.

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Because I know I'm talking long here. Hey, listen, we'll give you low income housing, but the father of your children cannot stay with you.

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What are we doing there, government? Well, I'm trying to get the Black man out the home.

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If I can get him out the home, then the children are pretty much doomed because they got two places to go.

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Graveyard or to the prison system? Well, who owns all the prison systems? Well, we know who owns all the prison systems.

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Yes, I get it. Some people go, some people do escape poverty. Got it. I was there myself. I escaped, okay, through the military.

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But here's the deal. We got to find a way to get out of this stuff. The only way we're going to do it is read and put the actions in place and try to encourage others.

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Try to encourage others how to get out of slavery, this mental slavery.

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I'm giving you housing, but your children's father cannot be there with you.

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Now, you know when you take the father out of the home, what happens to the children? I grew up in a single-parent home.

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I was probably one of the most rebellious young men growing up in a single-parent home, mother trying to raise two children, and I'm the one that's given her hell the entire time when I was a young man.

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You know, I look back on that. Yes, I apologize to my mother when I got older. I did, but when I was young, I didn't know. I didn't have no father figure there.

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I tell my children today, look, my father and you guys at OJT, I had no role models in my life, father-wise, to teach me how to do it.

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So yes, I made mistakes even with my own children, but I went back later to ask for forgiveness of that.

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And I tell them, you grew up with the father in the home. Do better than what I've done.

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So when you take the mother out. This is why I wanted to have you on the show because I knew you were going to bring a different perspective and just bring some valuable information that kind of illuminates topics that we don't really hear a robust conversation about.

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We're going to pause right here and take a quick commercial break. And when we return, we're going to continue our discussion on conservativism, black Republicans.

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If you ever thought to yourself, that would never be me. If you ever wondered, how could she? If you ever said, she should be ashamed of herself.

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I told my wife and my mama I would only let that pain strike them in. It's making me stronger. And I know I am the way I am, cause of all of them traumatic experiences.

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I've been through some trauma. I'm ready for hell finally, I'm ready to listen now, I wasn't ready then. I just wasn't ready.

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I know it took a while for me to ask you wanna smile more, but I've been trying to be a better man. I kept my head above water when it felt like I was gonna drown.

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Absolutely nowhere to go. I had nobody around. Overwhelmed by the pain, it's suffocated by doubt. Man, it's just crazy to think that I still found a way out.

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I did it on my own too. Who am I kidding? Gotta thank my wife cause I couldn't have done it without you. And I thank God every single day that I found you.

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If I die today, then the legacy is what I leave behind. But I promise baby you gonna be different. I hope we got time for we reach that line.

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Cross that line and leave this life. I know a whole lot that be on your mind. Be hard for you to even think sometimes. But we know that time is coming, we can't avoid it.

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I just wanna live in the moment cause life is short. I told my wife and my mama I would only let that pain strike to me. It's making me stronger.

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And I know I am the way I am cause of all of them traumatic experiences. I've been through some trauma. I'm ready for hell finally. I'm ready to listen now. I wasn't ready then. I just wasn't ready.

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I know it took a while for me to actually wanna smile more. But I've been trying to be a better man. I do wanna hold you tight and fall asleep in your arms.

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And any problems we face, they cannot go unresolved. I would trade my life for your happiness in the beat of a heart. You were the light to my path. You helped me see in the dark.

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And I found my way on. It all started off by you telling me I need to stay strong. I have every right to feel the way I do and that I ain't wrong. But my feelings can't be expressed through my anger.

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Man when I tell you I've been blessed with an angel. She keeps it real and she tells it. Her presence is angelic. Her love is my drug. Her love is my psychedelic.

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Girl I need you forever. I hope our souls live forever and I don't know how that works. But God I sure hope you let it. I told my wife and my mama I would only let that pain strike to me.

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It's making me stronger. And I know I am the way I am cause of all of them traumatic experiences. I've been through some trauma.

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I'm ready for help finally. I'm ready to listen now. I wasn't ready then. I just wasn't ready. I know it took a while for me to ask she wanna smile more. But I've been trying to be a better man.

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And I'm getting better. I know it took a while for me to ask she wanna smile more. But I've been trying to be a better man. And I'm getting better.

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I'm ready for help finally. I'm ready to listen now. I wasn't ready then. I just wasn't ready.

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You're back live with Dr. Andre Giri.

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Hey everyone welcome back to the show. So you just finished listening to the brand new track by independent artist Jill Brown entitled Better produced by Vaughn Make His.

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Send my team an email at live with Dr. Andre Giri and gmail.com and we'll get you squared away. Now listen if you're just joining us we've been having a robust discussion with Craig Whitehead who's a retired army combat veteran and a self described black Republican.

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So before the break we touched on sort of the history of the Republican Party and we talked about conservative values in this segment I want to pick up on something that we talked about right before the break so when we were talking about the history of the Republican Party you mentioned.

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Abe Lincoln which of course it was widely known that he was a well known abolitionist who was against slavery and many of us would be surprised to know that actually Abe Lincoln.

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Was often referred to as the first black Republican.

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When he ran for the Illinois Senate in 1858 I believe it was against.

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And Stephen Douglas and Stephen Douglas was a staunch Democrat and he was also a proponent for slavery.

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He is the one that coined the term black Republican and he referred to Abe Lincoln as a black Republican on the camp.

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Campaign trail repeatedly and this was for you know being an abolitionist against slavery.

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Well this term black Republican caught on and it began to be used during the reconstruction era for Republicans who supported legislation favor that favor African Americans.

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So in my intro for tonight show Craig I referenced black Republicans as a minority within a minority.

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And before we get further into the topic of tonight I wanted to examine that a little further and provide some statistical data that will give our listeners a clear perspective of this peculiar segment of voters.

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So black Americans account for 13.6% of all eligible voters in the United States according to Pew Research.

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And so that's approximately 32.7 million people which is a relatively small number of the overall electorate.

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But out of that 32.7 million people nearly 80% of black registered voters identify as Democrats and only 10% identify as Republican.

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So that's what I mean when I reference black Republicans as a minority within a minority.

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So I just kind of want to get your thoughts on that because you know you touched on this a little bit Craig you know with with the Democratic Party stance on slavery is really difficult for me to understand how such an overwhelming majority of us a lot align ourselves with the Democratic Party even today.

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Okay. Okay. So my take on that is, again, I have to restate that we as a black people, we always voted Republican when we were allowed to vote.

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That was our vote Republican. It wasn't until Johnson got an office that being limited to Johnson got into office and he created the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

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Now granted the Civil Rights Act, some would say it was specifically for the blacks. No, it was not. It was for everybody. Mr. Johnson says that and he made a statement that if I can get these people to vote for the Civil Rights Act of 1964,

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I can have them voting for the Democratic Party for the next 200 years. Now I can't use the words on air that he actually said, but that's as close as I can get by, you know, with keeping it clean.

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So that Civil Rights Act of 1964 when our people because again in that Civil Rights Act, remember our people are looking for a handout. And so that that played right into their hands. And so they said, Hey, we're going to leave them. We're going to leave the Republican Party.

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We're going to go vote for the slave master, which is the Democratic Party, the same party that had our ancestors in slavery, the same part that raped our mothers, our sisters killed our brothers killed our father. We're going to vote for them. So that was a good move for Johnson.

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He blindfolded a lot of us. Now remember, remember, you're in slavery. One of the things that was taught to you as a slave was you can do everything in the field. You can do everything that you want to do. One thing you cannot do is read.

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That was not allowed because they knew that if you read, you will eventually see yourself. Here's what I tell people today. I've heard it from someone else and I'll say it on the show. If you want to hide something from a black man, whether you put it, you put it in a book,

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because they ain't going to read it. And so that's why you continue to stay ignorant of what's going on around you and what you could be doing in the future. You have to wake up. You got to pick up a book and read it. Listen, I wasn't always a reader, but I had to do that.

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Let's talk about your numbers of the 32.7 million that you talked about from that research, whatever company that you mentioned, which is 80% black Democrats and 10% Republicans. That equates to roughly about 3 million black Republicans.

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Let's look at this for a moment. So if the 32.7 million that you talked about and we extract 3 million Republicans from that, that leaves you with 20, I think 29.7% Democrats.

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Right. So what if hypothetically, just what if you take 29.7 million blacks and exit the Democratic Party and they go to the Republican Party, wait a minute, also bring them change their mindset from a handout to a work of B,

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which means work for what you want. Stop looking for a handout. What would happen to the Democratic Party? They will crumble. They would crumble. Why? Because they no longer have mental slavery.

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The prison systems would go out of business. All these big guys lying here got these prisons making millions and millions of dollars off of blacks entering the system.

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We know in the legal system, it's unfair justice. You take a white guy, you take a black guy, same age, same crime. Who's going to get the most time?

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The prisons are designed for us to go in there. They want to keep you confined. They don't want you in the home with your children. But if we can exit that party, they would crumble.

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Now, by them coming over to the Republican Party, of course, changing your mindset to not get a handout but to work, what would happen to our economy? It would flourish. It was sort of like an eagle.

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What would happen to our black financially? Everybody would be well off financially. Why? Because you're no longer looking for a handout. We abandon together.

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You will have a new black Wall Street. And the government don't want you to do that. Meaning the Democratic Party does not want you to do that. They don't want you to exit.

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They always want you to look for, they always want you to accept a handout. It is so easy to hold your handout and accept it. It's easy to do that.

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You have to pull back and say, no, I give reference sometime, Dr. Jerry, if you take two people and you tell them, put your arms out front.

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Now, here's how I look at the Republican Party with both arms out front, palms facing down. That's the Republican Party we believe in working.

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Whereas the Democratic Party hold both hands out. That palms are facing towards the sky. We're looking for a handout. You've got to get rid of that mindset. Listen, I was there once.

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So you can't say I don't know. I was there once. I grew up in that area. I grew up on welfare with my mom. Going to the store, pulling out those little fake monopoly bills, paying for that stuff.

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I don't have to do that anymore. My mindset has changed. When you change your mindset, you become free. I have in my signature block and all of my emails say the educated mind cannot be enslaved.

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I've probably sent you some emails before where you where you've seen that statement. And I so hardly believe that if you educate yourself, read, pick up a book and read it, especially your history.

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A lot of our history literally was stolen from us. If you want to defeat a people, take their history from them. And we'll stay with that party.

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And so again, if I look at those numbers and if we were to exit hypothetically, and we would be economically free, financially free by all means, but the Democratic Party will have no way to go.

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Let's stick with that because I do think a lot of minorities, blacks in particular, they're becoming more awakened to the fact that, you know, if they look around at their own personal communities and they look at what progress has been made,

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really nothing has gotten that much better under Democrat or liberal leadership, if we're honest. I mean, we're still dealing with poor water quality and many minority communities across the U.S.

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voter suppression is rapid across many states, especially in the southern region of the country. And then we got a racial violence that's out of control. And that doesn't even take into account the economy, the housing market downturn, inflation, just, you know, the overall trajectory of the nation.

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So I feel like a lot of Democrats are now starting to maybe question their allegiance to the Democratic Party. And, you know, if the Republicans were not all of them, but if they were not so blinded by hatred and anti-ism right now, I think that they could potentially

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siphon off a nice chunk of black supporters from the Democrats. What do you think? Absolutely. Absolutely. I have to fully agree with you on that. They could get a lot of Democrats to come over.

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But again, because you have been trained so, so long of getting a handout, you're looking to switch parties and say, okay, and I've heard this before when I talk to people, well, if I switch over to the Republican Party, what are they going to give me?

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And I say, yeah, nothing. They ain't giving you nothing. I said, look at, look at any Republican that runs for office. They don't promise you nothing. For what? We are a working class people.

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The Democratic Party goes, go and give me this and give me that. Exactly. But you got strings attached with that. Why can't you work for what you want?

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Exit that party, change your mindset, pick up a book and read it. Entrepreneur, that should be no reason why we have people without income today because there's too much entrepreneur opportunities out there.

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It's a simple, I tell people, go to YTU. If you want to learn how to make money, go to YTU. Well, what's YTU? It's a university that's free of charge to learn how to make money.

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Craig, what's that? YouTube University. I spent hours and hours on YouTube. A lot of my income, I learned how to get that income straight off of YTU.

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YouTube University. I applied those methods and now I got streams of income coming in. I'm not rich by no means, but I'm not like I used to be when I was on the Democratic side looking for a handout.

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I'm just not. Now, are there entrepreneurs on the Democratic side? Absolutely. There are. There are rich people on the Democratic side. I get all of that.

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I'm just saying, we as a people, we got to come out of that. Stop voting for the slave master who's promising you things. The right ain't promising you nothing but an opportunity to be better. That's it. Take that and run with it.

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You know what? I'm so glad that I'm having you on this show because I knew you would bring, you know, just some clarity on this and just maybe not. It's not like we're trying to convert anyone, but I just want to dispel the myth that black Republicans don't like them sale.

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Like black people, you know, all this, this, this nonsense that we hear and we do know that there's some people out there that are a little different. But like I said in the beginning, all black Republicans are not a monolith and they're not anti black.

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Largely, you can listen to Mr. Whitehead here and just kind of see where he's coming from and see how he got his mind. I think you've done a great job of, you know, talking about your background and talking about your your values and how the military shaped your values and beliefs and how you kind of carry that on.

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So I love that. I want to touch on before we move on, I want to touch on this another piece of statistics that I found. And it talks about a recent survey that again, Pew Research, who does a lot of political polling, they did a survey this past August and that indicated that 70% of black registered voters plan to vote for Democrats for the

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as their congressional candidate in their districts and only 6% of black registered voters said they will vote for Republican candidate candidates for Congress during these midterms. And so Craig, both of us voted early in the midterm elections this year and we kind of shared our ballots with each other and talked about how we voted.

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You know, I voted overwhelmingly for Democratic candidates. And you mentioned to me that you voted for every Republican candidate on the ballot. So what I want to ask you is when you cast your votes last week, what was at the forefront of your mind?

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The values that my party have. That's all I look for. Listen, I tell people, I don't care who's running. I really don't care who's running. I just need to know that I'm going to vote on the right side.

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I can never in my entire life from the education that I've had from reading ever, you couldn't pay me a million dollars, $10 million to cast my vote on a party that enslaved my ancestors. I can't do that.

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I'm awake now. Before I was woke and every year I would cast, every four years I would cast my vote towards the slave master. I can't do that anymore.

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My vote will always be cash over here. So I go straight down the ballot Republican, Republican, Republican because my party values don't change. I don't care who's in office. You can call who's in office or race is all day long.

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My values don't change. Same sex marriage. We don't do that. Abortion. We don't do that. Other things taxing big government. I'm sorry, taxing the rich with a higher tax. We don't do that.

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Big government. We don't do that. And I can go on and on and on. So I cast my vote on the on where my values most line up with this.

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I'm a straight up hypocrite. If I go to church and this is what this is what them 29 billion people are 32 billion people that you're talking about.

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This is what happens every Sunday morning. They go to church. They raise their hand. They shout hallelujah. Turn flips all in the church bounce their heads off the wall saying that they praise and worship and God then turn right around on Tuesday and vote.

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The same sex marriage vote to murder innocent children that God himself gave life to. And I can just go on and on. That don't line up with my beliefs.

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So I can't do that anymore. Now I've heard people say, well, Craig, I ain't the one that's got a nice, you know, listen, you may not have it, but you support it.

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Well, Craig, I don't believe in saying that you may not believe in it, but you support it and your vote says that I heard a pastor say one time, how can you be a Christian and vote Democrat?

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And I strongly believe it. How can you do that? Now other people may can justify that. I'm okay with that justify. But me, once I have a once I'm not well now that I'm awake, there's no way I can go back and do that again.

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I can't, you know, I guess that's a saying in the Bible that says God says depart from me because you never knew me. Not get it may every read them. Every listener may not believe in the Bible and that's your choice.

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But here's what I ask every every vote on.

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If your God supports those values in that party, then go for it. It's just a God that I serve. Don't line up with that killing of unborn babies and saying such matters.

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It just don't line up with that. So therefore, I have to err on the side of caution and stay over here with this more lines up with my values. If that makes sense.

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Well, it makes sense. And I can certainly appreciate that. But I do want to say this. I don't 100% agree. I get your point about voting based on core values. But where I kind of don't agree is when you say that because I support a Democratic candidate or ticket that I'm supporting abortion, you know, because that

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is the best that every Democratic candidate is pro choice, which, you know, of course, it's not the case. Both political parties fall along a spectrum. So you have the liberal Democrats who are pro choice pro LGBTQ rights and then you have the conservative

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Republicans who aren't for either of those. The same with progressive and conservative Republicans. There's a wide range of political opinions that exist on both sides. So I understand that you are voting based on your values and your beliefs and that's your choice.

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I definitely respect that. But I'm not going to, for myself, at least I'm not going to blindly vote Republican just because there are some Democrats out there who are pro choice. For me, that's on them. And that has nothing to do with my personal belief system.

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So where do I feel like I'm going to have to give an accounting to God about why I voted Democrat? I'm sure he will be more concerned with how I use my time here on earth and how I treated my fellow man. So I just want to throw that out there. I get your point and I'm glad that you mentioned that because it helps others who don't think that way

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understand how some not all but some black Republicans think you know they're holding tight to the conservative core values and beliefs and I admire that and I respect it. We're coming up on, you know, the end of the hour so I definitely don't want to run over.

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But before we run completely out of time this episode, I just I want to thank you for joining us today. I'm sorry we didn't get to all the question I wanted to ask you. I think we gave the listeners a great political discourse and a glimpse into the mindset of an average everyday black Republican and the values that resonate with you all.

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But before we end today's show, are there any closing remarks to our listeners tonight?

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Oh, for me?

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Yes.

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Okay. I thought you were talking to someone else at the time. I'm sorry. First of all, Dr. Jay, I want to thank you for having me on your show. For those of you that listened in, I'm sure you would love to debate with me on some of my points.

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I'm not here to debate. My truth is my truth and your truth is your truth. And I had argued with you if you want to continue to vote the way you vote, I commend you on that. We can agree to disagree, but I'm going to say this in my closing.

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And I've said it before to many of my people.

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Again, my truth. Here it goes. Financially, Dr. Jerry, you can find poor white Democrats.

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Financially, you can find poor black Democrats.

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Financially, you can also find poor white Republicans. But here's what you would never find. You would never find financially a poor black Republican. I leave you and I leave your listeners with that.

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Wow.

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Well, brother, I can't argue with you there. That's a great food for thought. So great closing statement. I really appreciate you coming on.

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Everyone, thanks again for spending your evening with us. Remember to tune into our next show during our new time slot, 8 to 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the fourth Wednesday of each month.

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Again, I'm your host, Dr. Andre Jerry Craig, Whitehead. Thank you so much for your time today. Good night, everyone. We'll catch you next time.

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