in a world brimming with complexity few creatures
embody harmony like the honeybee with tireless
precision she dances from bloom to bloom each
motion guided by millennia upon millennia of
instinct each act in service to the whole and
then There are the beekeepers, watchful stewards
of this ancient symbiosis. Part agriscientist,
part poet, they move along their hives with the
efficiency of mow, levy and curly, tending to
the bees' needs as best they can comprehend,
and with the infrequency of a waterfall in the
Sahara, sometimes running off flapping and flailing
like a penguin on a hot sidewalk. This is their
journey. Welcome, welcome to Be Love Beekeeping
presented by our great friends and partners in
beekeeping, Man Lake. Today we have two famous
guests joining us. They're not only excellent
beekeepers but have also starred in Discovery
Channel's Naked and Afraid TV show. We'll discuss
their custom bee hut, their bees 100 % winter
survival rate, and a whole ton more. But first,
have you seen this new scientific study that
gives us more insights into how queen bees are
actually made? Nature Magazine and Science News
report on a new study that shows a queen bee
may be shaped by more than just its famous royal
jelly diet. The wax of the peanut -shaped chamber
where the queen develops does more than just
look different. It has distinct physical and
chemical properties that help steer its development.
By analyzing the chamber's composition and the
larvae it harbors, the research team challenges
the long -held notion that royal jelly alone
makes a queen. Boris Baer and his colleagues
at UC Riverside studied honey bees comparing
queen and worker cell wax, the workers that build
the cells, and how larvae fare in each wax environment.
The finding came as a surprise, Baer says. The
royal nurses building royal cribs for the future
queens spend longer than worker cell builders
constructing these cells They run hotter than
other bees and they show distinct patterns of
gene activity, suggesting they are specially
adapted to modify the wax they work with. The
first clues came with the wax. Analysis showed
that queen cell wax is softer, less dense, and
chemically distinct from worker cell wax. Everything
was supporting the same conclusion, Bear says.
Bees do more than feed the queen, they actively
engineer her. Personally, I have always wondered
how colonies decide which bees will serve in
different roles. Everything from nurse bees to
undertakers to wax and propolis makers, guard
bees, foragers, etc. According to Bayer, these
super -organisms mobilize specialized workers
that collectively shape the next generation.
The division of labor in bees might be much more
complex than we have acknowledged so far. Wow,
another great example of the more you learn the
more you realize you don't know Like I always
say bees are simply amazing I'd like to welcome
to the show today two very special and semi no
more than semi famous guests Tara and Darren
and that's Darren ray and Tara Scoob Ella. Did
I do okay? Yeah Yeah, okay good in case you recognize
these two but are not sure where to place them
Imagine if they had dirt all over their faces
and they look like they had lost a bunch of weight
And then the camera was blurring out body parts.
That's where you'd probably know them from right
guys Yep, absolutely But I was never afraid never
afraid Yeah, I don't get where that part of the
title comes from and naked and afraid. The people
never look afraid to me. They look cold. They
actually got the title from the book of Genesis,
the line, and they were naked and afraid. So
it's a biblical show. Well, no, a producer was
in a hotel on the toilet and the only thing to
read was Gideon's Bible. And that's the page
he opened it to and came up with the idea is
the story I heard from one of the executive producers.
Believe it. I believe it. We're gonna stick with
that. Yeah, but today we're talking about beekeeping
because both you guys are beekeepers I think
let's just jump in first One of the things that
interested me about what you guys do is your
bee hut So who can explain that first of all
and if you send me some pictures, we'll stick
them up with the video version of this But tell
me about the bee hut. It's called an apotherapy
hut And bees communicate with pheromones, and
so they're always releasing all these amazing
pheromones. And they also vibrate at very certain
frequencies that have been proven scientifically
to be healing frequencies. And people a long
time ago noticed that beekeepers would live longer
in their respective communities than other people,
and were healthier. I mean, this has been noticed
for... hundreds if not thousands of years. I
mean beekeeping goes way back. Egyptians kept
bees, the Vikings kept bees, the Sumerians kept
bees, Aztecs, the Mayans, the Incans, like cultures
all around the world have been beekeepers. And
this is something that's been noticed throughout
history. And so that Hutt hones in on bringing
the general public to be able to safely experience
and Use those vibrations and pheromones for healing.
You're sitting on four beehives, but you're double
screened so the bees can't get to you, but you
still get all the noise and the vibrations and
all the pheromones have leached in and at this
point they've saturated the wood that I built
the hut with. I used untreated aspen wood. It's
very neutral and it would absorb all those pheromones
and smells and then It's a kind of like a time
release. Even in the winter when the bees aren't
active, it's almost as potent as it is in the
middle of the summer now. Well, and we don't
very often talk about all those things you just
mentioned, which is the vibration, the pheromones.
And one thing that I noticed when I was at Epimondia
last fall was there were a couple of companies
selling gadgets, for lack of a better term, that
help you breathe bee air. Tell us about bee error,
Tara. Sure. So the aromas of bees, you can use
those gadgets, but we think, well, why not also
have the benefits of the vibrations as well?
So a more of immersion experience instead of
just using a breathing apparatus. And so the
aromas and the pheromones of the bees really
help with lung supports too. So asthma. Here
living in Colorado and in other places where
there's a lot of wildland firefighters and the
quality of the air, even if you live in a city,
can really be compromising to the body. And so
breathing with the bees really helps with the
tissue repair of the lungs. So you have people
come in from all over and do retreats or just
spend time in the bee hut. What do they find
about it? What do they tell you as their reactions?
Yeah, so we've been keeping track of different
feedback and success stories. One person last
year who came to sit with the bees in a retreat
came initially for a grieving and loss period
of the death of her husband. And her friends
in Europe said, well, here, if something traumatic
happens in your life, you just go sit with the
bees. And this is more Northern Europe and so
she began to look and she found us not only did
it help her with her grief and loss of her husband
because the frequency of the bees also attuned
to the heart space. Then she also found an unexpected
benefit so she was experiencing chronic inflammation
and pain for two years and woke up every single
day in pain. And after she sat with the bees
for that period, and then she came back again,
um, and sat with the bees again, not as long,
but I think for like a day, day and a half, then
her, her pain subsided. And for, I think even
still to this day, within a six month period,
she only had one or two flare -ups. That's really
cool. Pretty awesome and amazing. Yeah. As people
can tell from my voice, I've been under the weather
the last few days, getting better now. And I'm
thinking I'm going to lift a lid on a hive this
afternoon. Just go stick my face in for about
a half an hour and just breathe it. I'm glad
you reminded me to do that. I had not done that
yet. So, Darren, tell me about the be hive set
up in the hut. The four main hives are on big
heavy duty slide out drawers that you actually
access from the exterior of the hive. And they're
just your normal Langstroth. 10 frame hives then
there's just doors that I keep screwed shut just
so no one can access them but they lift up out
of the way and then the hives slide out on big
heavy -duty drawers just something I built I
work construction and I'm a fabricator and so
I just wanted to be easy to access to work with
the bees and if I got a swap out components it's
instant no specialty gear if something happens
with one of the hives if a mold gets in it or
a hive gets a disease I can very easily swap
that out is kind of was the design to that but
then we also have a observation wall hive in
there that is a 36 frame six frames high six
frames deep observation hive that's a four foot
glass cased front that you also access from the
outside you can lift a blanket up and observe
all the bees coming and going and doing all their
things through a glass too so you're not just
you can see because we're visual people we need
visual stimulus as well and so that was my reasoning
behind that was it kind of came from a science
teacher when i was in seventh grade had one and
i got to see it and i've wanted one ever since
And I've seen other bee huts and yours is the
first one that's had an observation hive Inside
I need to see more pictures of yours, but that's
that totally makes sense You know using all your
senses that way. Yeah, and it's just interesting.
I mean even as a beekeeper You don't get to actually
see them doing what they do Undisturbed because
they're completely undisturbed when you're watching
it's not like you've cracked the lid and Smoked
them out or something. They're just Doing their
thing normally and as a beekeeper, it's interesting
for me just to watch them do that All right.
Let's talk about some of the other things you
do because You've taken this and turned it into
a business in a bunch of different directions
Tara give us a little more idea about your background
and all the different things that you do I think
I'll start in the recent 10 years Yeah, so about
10 years ago with my background in wilderness
therapy, even a little bit of social services
and running a variety of nonprofits, Earth Tantra
was born and that is actually a result of my
naked and afraid experience. And so I became
trained in Earth -based Tantra. breath work.
I also have a death doula certification and integral
relationship certification and yoga certification
and others. So I've done a lot of studying and
like overall wellness and energy work. And so
through that here at the farm, I offer group
retreats and also private one -on -one retreats.
And also the the bee retreat. So all the retreats
I offer aren't necessarily focused on the bees,
but we do offer bee -specific retreats. And I
teach people breathwork and how to exchange not
only just sit in the hut of breathing in naturally
and maybe reading a book, but how to connect
and become intimate with the essence of the bees
through different breathwork and energy exchange
practices. What is the earth tantra that you
mentioned? Yes, so Earth Tantra is the name of
my business, established in 2016, so for 10 years.
And kind of our tagline is, heal with nature
and transform with Tantra. Sometimes when people
hear the word Tantra, they think sex -based.
That's not necessarily the case for Earth Tantra.
It's energy exchange with nature, with the Earth.
This morning, Darren, it took you a couple of
minutes to get in because I was told you had
to be emergency. What was that? Well, I wouldn't
say an emergency. The wall hive, which is the
only hive, I only get into it like twice a year.
Just because it's screwed shut and it's complicated
to get into. I do manage it and get in there.
Do I put in oxalic mite strips and I still fully
believe in treating for mites on all my hives?
proactively not retroactively and So it was time
to replace the mite strips in there anyways,
but this morning they were Breeding outside of
the hive, you know, like the whole entrance to
the hive was covered in bees I just wanted to
get in and make sure they weren't getting ready
to swarm. I mean it's 36 frame hive There could
be multiple laying queens in a wall cavity. You
just never know. So I got in and I pulled out
the bottom four rows of frames, and there was
no queen cells. I just wanted to make sure because
if there was queen cells then I would split the
hive. It's not necessarily needs to be split
right now, but I just wanted to make sure they
weren't getting ready to swarm. Yeah. So. And
you have other hives in addition to this, the
ones in the bee hut, right? Yeah. 11 or 12 hives
total. 13? Maybe 13. Depends on the day. That's
typical for beekeepers. I try to keep 12 hives.
I try to keep a dozen hives. Okay. How long have
you been doing it? First got into it about 17,
18 years ago. And that was a short -lived like
one -year experiment. I was a rock climbing guide
and I just wasn't around to work with the bees.
So that hive went away and then now I'm... slow
down and got this property and so I got back
into the bees. Tell us a little bit more about
where you live because we all know beekeeping
is all local and different environments need
different things. So what elevation are you at?
You mentioned Colorado. So we're I think 4 ,600
feet here, 4 ,500 feet and we're in way western
Colorado. basically have the same climate as
Moab, Utah. Like we're on the edge of the desert.
It is high arid, high desert here. But mountains
close by so we can get crazy cold snaps on a
whim. And we can have 75, 80 degree days in January
sometimes. You know, days hitting the high 50s
and 60s are normal in the middle of winter here.
So a lot of people set up for winter and here
we have summer and winter for Sometimes half
the winter. And then our summers are two months
straight of 100 degree days. And then a month
on either side of that of 90 degree days. What
have you found are some of the secrets to working
within those parameters? Because the bees, they
can get a little confused with that. In the winter,
I feed externally, a ways away from my hives.
Like I don't put out feeders near my hives. but
I want the bees that are going out to look for
something to be able to find water and food and
on the active days I put up sugar water in bucket
feeders and then I keep a heated water bowl out
for the chickens anyways and I just have a board
that floats on top of that water bowl and all
the bees that need water in the winter go land
on it they get their water and they go back to
the hive and then I also do insulated condensing
hives And since I started insulating the hives,
got proactive with my mite treatments, I have
yet to lose a hive. I've had 100 percent success
right now, three winters in a row. We're going
to have somebody on the show in the next couple
of weeks talking about condensing hives. But
give people just an overall view. What does that
mean and in general, how does it work? So some
people ventilate their hives to remove excess
moisture because bees breathe and they're eating
honey and they're releasing water vapor. through
their natural processes and that water can either
be ventilated out or you can design the hive
so it condenses on the walls because if water
condenses above the bees and drips on them then
they will die. It's not warm enough to dry off
and it kills them. So I give my hives an R40
lid and R10 walls in the winter and I use HVAC
foil tape to Seal that insulation up. It's hard
foam insulation. It's fully sealed I then wrap
the bubble wrap and then has a giant lid that
slides over most of the hive to protect it Quick
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how that happens here in the desert and I Didn't
want my bees to be thermally shot. And so that
insulation also gives them a tapered buffer zone
They're retaining their heat. They're heating
up slower and they're cooling down slower And
it just protects the nucleus of the hive all
winter long, in my opinion. I'm glad you mentioned
the differences in R values. So for those that
didn't catch that, that was in a really important
point. That you have a much higher R value on
the roof than you do on the walls. And can you
explain the reason for that again? Nature. Bees
in nature are looking for hollows and cavities
and crevices to nest in and a hollowed out tree
Could have infinite wood above it and only you
know four or five inches of wood on the sides
So that top is gonna stay warm While the sides
get cold and water vapor will condense on that
cold surface which keeps the water Condensing
to the outside of the hive and not above the
hive same thing in as a rock climber former rock
climber I found lots of wild bee colonies up
in crevices and rocks You know on the cliff faces
and they would always be back in a crevice But
with a ledge and they'd be hanging off a solid
rock and even the winter those hives would have
open ventilating air around their sides but yet
they still survived and I think it was because
of that heat that they could build against that
infinite insulated ceiling. That was just observations
I made not as a beekeeper but just from being
a naturalist. In that condensation here's my
understanding and I'm not a thermodynamic professor
or anything like that. My understanding is if
you have the same R value all the way around
and on the lid Then the condensation is most
likely to happen up top and that's when we talk
about it dropping down on the bees We do not
want wet bees Condensation on the walls is a
good thing it's not running down on top of the
bees and They can go to that and drink that when
they're all cooped up in the winter That's a
special note for people in cold climates to think
about where you have how much our value and one
thing with the insulated hives My bees swarm
sometimes a month earlier than other beekeepers
in the area's hives. And I think it's because
they're coming through the winter with such better
numbers. They're having a higher survival rate
and they're coming through the winter healthier.
So it is a little more work as the beekeeper
because you got to be ready earlier in the season.
You can't go by the clues that other beekeepers
in your area are talking about. You got to get
in there and be proactive. It's making my bees
survive that much better. i'm coming through
with almost zero winter loss in some of my hives
in the spring that's amazing and by the way you
mentioned in such a casual way that in rock climbing
some of the crevices had bees inside them i think
that'd make for a very exciting day not in a
good way oh i have jumped off of cliffs before
because i have had bees blow out in my face like
literally just you just let go or start down
climbing and get to your last piece and set up
an anchor and you just go down and call it a
day. All right Tara we're not forgetting about
you. Tell us more about apotherapy and what ways
are you involved with it? I think I like to think
of myself as more of the bee alchemist with the
chemistry and working with the energy of the
bees and Building a relationship with the bees,
I think, is a really important aspect of not
only for myself, but also teaching other people
and befriending the bees, supporting people,
helping people look toward nature and expanding
their their wellnesses versus an object or a
thing that you can buy from the store. Why not
sit with nature? And when Darren mentioned the
rocks, we can observe bees in nature, but why
not sit in a place where you're protected, where
you're safe? where you can build a relationship
with the bees. Some people, and I've experienced
this too, right? Each hive has its own frequency,
its own smell, its own characteristics. Personality.
Personality, exactly. And it's a really unique
experience to be able to lay on a bed above these
hives and connect with each hive. even down to
like single individual bees, maybe that pulse
and frequency of the hive if you're a very highly
sensitive person and can tune into that. And
then taking that energy and also bringing it
within and feeling how the frequencies impact
our body, even down to a cellular level. So there's
many layers of bee medicine. Yeah, and the whole
relationship thing we don't talk about in beekeeping.
We talk about Varroa. We talk about all the nuts
and bolts. Tell me more about your relationship
with the bees. Darren or I or both. I don't care.
Both of you. I think I'll start what I just shared,
but also for me, it's a really personal relationship.
Some of my ancestors are from the island of Crete,
which is actually closer to Egypt, which Darren
talked about beekeeping in Egypt, and a lot of
knowledge was shared. And I really feel in my
lineage on that side of the family at some point
had a really special relationship with bees.
And when I filmed the television show Naked and
Afraid, before I started filming, the crew was
attacked by killer bees. And it's one of the
most dangerous situations today in the filming.
So I feel my personal relationship with bees
also stems from my past, whether it's past in
this life and also my ancestors. And I even wear
a... bee pendant, which is the symbol of the
island of Crete in Greece. And it's two bees
coming together with droplets coming down. And
the original is solid gold. This is not. And
so I wear this in honor of my ancestors every
day now for over two years. How about you, Darren?
Do you have a relationship to or you just pounded
out beekeeper? I mean, I'm I'm a naturalist.
I have been a nature nerd my entire life, like
Easiest way to distract me was to have a new
bug walk by And I just follow it and see what
it did as a little kid like I was all I did catching
snakes looking at bugs just seeing nature and
that's one of the things with like naked and
afraid is I study ecosystems and how they interact
and All pollinators are such vital parts of our
ecosystem. You know, I also have built a lot
of property or a lot of habitat on our property
for native bees and native pollinators, not just
my honeybees. I plant flowers that honeybees
don't even go to, but a lot of the native bees
do. A lot of the native wild desert flowers,
I collect seeds out in the desert and I bring
them here and I get them growing in clusters
for the native stuff. My relationship is kind
of on that level with the bees. And then also
I'm the one that does the physical work with
the bees. I'm the one in the hives doing the
work. You mentioned their personalities. You
know, I've got a couple hives that I would get
into without a suit on, no problem. And then
I've got one hive in particular that I don't
even feel safe in the suit with them sometimes.
They're so prone to just exploding out in anger.
And it's funny, but that hive is also my It produces
twice as much honey as any other hive I have
so I'm like Good and bad. I mean, they're just
busy busy active bees I've heard that a lot and
it seems like the common Thought pattern and
beekeepers is if you have a hot hive you just
go automatically requeen that thing But there
are some benefits, you know in a year or two,
they'll requeen themselves Yeah, that queen might
get that aggressive trait might not I don't requeen
unless I have to. I'm the same way. I just can't
do it. But I'm not a commercial beekeeper. I
understand why some people really need to. I
mean, I requeen when a queen is nearing her end
of cycle. If they're just not building population,
then I will check for diseases. I do a mite wash.
And if it's not anything that I can find, then
I will figure it's a lane issue with the queen.
And then I will requeen. Oh, I had a friend on
the podcast last year that was talking about
he was the same way. He's like I just can't squish
queen And he's actually set up like this queen
bee retirement home And he has figured out how
to have a box with little separators And so that
he can have multiple old queens live out their
life And it's cute. I think it's good fun. That's
great I give everybody that comes on the show
an opportunity to tell their favorite or a couple
of their favorite wild and crazy beekeeping stories.
Either of you have one? So my introduction to
beekeeping was catching a swarm in Palisade,
Colorado and there's a church that has a giant
wild hive in their bell tower and that hive is
known to sometimes go into the church and sting
people and swarm inside and it spit it's a big
hive and it spits out lots of swarms and Someone
called a friend of mine that had a couple hives
and said hey there's a swarm in the tree in front
of the church and We went there and it was way
up in a tree and we parked my Toyota underneath
that boards across the bed a stepladder on top
of the boards and I'm up there with just a mask
on, holding a box above my head while my friends
in the truck with a stick trying to balance the
ladder with one hand and shake the bees into
the box for me with the other. While that's going
on, these two boys, like 10 year olds, come riding
up on their bikes and they're like, hey, what
are you guys doing? And then one of the kids
goes, bees! And he just booked it as fast as
he could on his bike and his friend looked up
and Let's add a word that his mom would have
been happy about and follows his buddy as fast
as he can and I got stung probably 15 times that
day from that swarm and that was my first hive
and to this day it was still the most aggressive
hive I've ever had and I mean we don't have Africanized
bees here, but you didn't go near that hive without
a suit once I got it set it was explosive at
all times And you risk your life to save that
thing. Yep. So they they owe you. Tara, have
you had any unusual experiences with bees? Maybe
not unusual. I mean, catching my first swarms
are always really exciting. You know, if you're
doing it with your hands and the vibration and
the air moving in between your eyes and the bees,
that frequency is pretty intoxicating, I'll say.
But maybe I'll share an indirect story while
I was preparing to film Naked and Afraid and
I was waiting for the start date. There was a
really weird day that was all like hush hush
and I was sequestered even more before we filmed
all day and I wasn't told why. And then they
finally let me out of this holding room and it
looked like. something really bad had happened
and there was like wet clothing all over the
resort, cameras in gear, there was not a single
person around. And it was this really eerie feeling
as they walked me through this disaster zone
to my room. It was real hush hush. And then later
on that day, the producer came to me and told
me that the production crew was attacked by the
Africanized killer bees. And she asked me, do
you want to stay and film because they're in
the area or not? Because if you don't, that's
fine. We'll fly you home and we'll find somebody
else. And I made the choice to stay and to take
the risk. Where were you? I was in Panama and
an island called Isla San Jose. And a lot of
Africanized bees in that area. Yes. Yeah. A local
guide. hit a tree with a machete that activated
a hive and attacked the production crew. It was
a really serious attack as well. Yeah. Africanized
bees in the Americas started in Brazil. They
were trying to get bees that produced more honey
and survived better. And so they crossed European
bees with African bees. And it did not go over
very well. And they have worked their way north.
South from Brazil to cover all of South America
and all the way up, you know into Arizona New
Mexico and Texas now Yeah, California too. Oh,
yeah. Yeah that kind of that whole swipe. They're
making their way north I know there are a lot
of African eyes colonies in Las Vegas So I guess
they like to eat so they don't tolerate the freezes
Like the European bees do but that could always
change they seem to be The future of bees, honestly,
just how they're going to probably reclaim themselves
as wild bees instead of domesticated bees. Have
you found that with your hot hive or hives that
they do better with Varroa? I haven't noticed
until I'm in honey flow every week. I do oxalic
vapor and I use strips and I've just never let
a colony get to a point. My mite washes show
no bees, no mites. I have almost none. OK. I
need to let you guys go, but you know what? We
have a couple extra minutes. I'll bet people
would love to hear a fun story or two about what
it's like to be on Naked and Afraid. I'll let
him talk because he's been on many times. And
by the way, Tara's been on once. Darren, you've
been on four times, right? Yeah, I've been on
four times. I'm always ready to go again. I thoroughly
enjoy it. It's immersions into ecosystems in
a manner that you can't get in regular life.
to go out there and just have your wits and a
couple tools and have to survive. I just thoroughly
enjoy it. It's a challenge, but it's fun. You
don't remember easy parts of life. You remember
the hard times and the struggles and moments
in nature. You'll never forget that overlook
from the top of a mountain and you see your rescue.
You'll never forget that. Don't forget the TV
show you watched yesterday. It looks so miserable.
Like, it's just, how can I survive one more day
kind of thing? And while I'm eating dirt and
bugs. So I'm glad you brought up how much you
love it. That's awesome. What do you like about
it so much? Like I said, the immersion in nature.
I'm also lucky. I'm always the person that gets
bit the least by the bugs. They don't bother
me nearly as much. I don't have the histamine
reactions. I have a better cold tolerance than
a lot of people. I usually sleep the farthest
away from the fire in a group setting. That's
just how I am. I don't even like to have a fire
unless I have to most of the time. You're built
for it. The struggles finding finding the food,
you know, we're supposed to be hunter gatherers
going out and having those opportunities and
go to a big reserve in South Africa and be like,
hey, can I go sleep in the dirt with the lions
and they'll kick you off the property? I get
to go do that. How many people can say they've
Stood there with a spear that they made while
two angry lions circled them roaring. I mean
I Got paid to do that All right, you win. I'm
the boring guy Anyway, that's really fun. Hey
you two Thanks a lot for being on with me today
and keep it up. Keep doing all the good you're
doing out there. Cool Thank you. Thanks for having
us All right. Thank you, Eric. Can I give a shout
out really quick? I just want to send a sense
of gratitude to Capella Ranch. They also have
an apiary therapy hut in Boulder County and Colorado,
and they helped us get started and inspired us
for BZenHuts. And what's your website so people
can find you? B -B -E -E -Zen -Z -E -N -Huts,
H -U -T -S .com. BeZenHuts .com. Perfect. Thanks
for sharing. And you can find us on Instagram.
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