in a world brimming with complexity few creatures
embody harmony like the honeybee with tireless
precision she dances from bloom to bloom each
motion guided by millennia upon millennia of
instinct each act in service to the whole and
then There are the beekeepers, watchful stewards
of this ancient symbiosis. Part agriscientist,
part poet, they move along their hives with the
efficiency of mow, levy and curly, tending to
the bees' needs as best they can comprehend,
and with the infrequency of a waterfall in the
Sahara, sometimes running off flapping and flailing
like a penguin on a hot sidewalk. This is their
journey. Welcome, welcome to Be Love Beekeeping
presented by Man Lake. Today, we're headed to
the US's Pacific Northwest to discuss what it's
like beekeeping in that area, in that climate.
With those kinds of issues, it's not all that
easy, by the way. We'll discuss everything from
salmon derbies to yellow jackets, beekeeping
ethics, and a whole bunch more. But first, let's
take two minutes to go inside the hive. This
feature presented by Primal Bee. A colony that
came through winter with maybe 10 ,000 bees can
hit 60 ,000 by early summer. That kind of growth
doesn't happen by accident. As days lengthen
and the first pollen starts coming in, the queen
ramps up laying. She might go from a few hundred
eggs a day to over a thousand, close to even
two thousand. The colony is betting everything
on the spring nectar flow. Here's how the math
works. A worker bee takes about 21 days to develop
from egg to adult. So the eggs that the queen
lays in early spring won't become foragers until
at least three weeks later. The colony has to
build up its workforce before the big nectar
flow hits, not during. That's why timing matters
so much. Colonies that build up too slowly miss
the flow. Colonies that build up too fast run
out of space and swarm. taking half your bees
with them. The trigger for all this is a combination
of day length, temperature, and incoming resources.
When the nurse bees have enough pollen to feed
larva, they signal the queen to lay more. The
whole colony responds to what's happening outside.
Experienced beekeepers learn to read their local
conditions and anticipate when their colonies
will need more space. Get it right and you've
got a strong workforce ready for the flow. Get
it wrong, and you're chasing swarms. I'd like
to welcome our very famous guest today. Are you
famous, Brian? No, not at all. Not even infamous.
Hopefully, I'd rather be famous and infamous,
but I am not famous. Anyway... We're going to
have fun today. We're up in the Pacific Northwest
in the San Juan Islands having a conversation
with Brian Schmitz. And good morning, Brian.
Good morning, Eric. I know I put you on the spot
with that famous one. Well, I am a reigning salmon
derby winner at the local American Legion. So
yes. Yeah. I won it in 2019 and they haven't
had the derby since. So, you know, I am the reigning
champion. Okay. I promise listeners, we're not
going to get too far off track of beekeeping,
but how do you, what is a salmon tournament and
how do you win it? Well, it was a pay entrance
fee. You go out and try to catch the biggest
fish over a period of a couple of days and I
caught the biggest ones. So yeah, it's, uh, out
in a fishing boat, trolling that kind of thing.
Yeah, exactly. King salmon or what kind? King
salmon. They're the local, uh, King salmon that
don't leave the area they're called black mouths
and that's usually you catch them in the winter
and uh, yeah Well, I love fishing. So that sounds
fun Yeah, it was it was a good time my buddy
co -worker. He uh, he took Third or fifth place.
We we had a couple of we both got checks. That's
you know, which was all right Yeah All right.
Let's switch gears Let's not talk about bee hunting,
but we're going to be talking about everything
beekeeping up in your neck of the woods. And
let's start with the climate for a second. I
know things can be very humid, very wet, a lot
of rain. Give us an idea of what your whole year
is like, and does it change much from summer
to winter, things like that? Yeah, you know,
we really don't have community like they have
it, you know, on the American East or the South.
I remember the first time I stepped off a plane.
Ronald Reagan Airport is like, whoa, this is
humidity. Yeah, we really don't have the humidity.
We are in a bit of a rain shadow in the San Juan's
Olympic mountain range, which I can see out the
window. It blocks a lot of the weather from the
south. We recently got to Time Apple Express,
that big Kona Lo that created a lot of havoc
there in the Hawaiian Islands. Kind of the jet
stream bent it right up and it blocked a good
bit of it, but there was still some local flooding.
They had some this winter as well, washed out
a road to one of our popular ski hills. It was
a bit of a pain for the people who bought their
season passes and couldn't get to the mountain
easily. It's been a warmer winter. We really
haven't had much of an accumulation of the snow
as we've had in the past. So we're thinking,
I'm thinking at least, that wildfire this summer
could be an issue. And in Vancouver and in Seattle,
they get their drinking water. supply is from
winter melt -top of, you know, the winter, or
summer melt -top of the winter snow. And, uh,
there's not a lot of snow to fill up the reservoirs
for Vancouver or Seattle. We're like 40 minutes
or 40 miles from Vancouver and about, uh, 67
from downtown Seattle. We're kind of right in
between the two of those. The ocean is kind of
a, an air conditioner. It's temperate, so we
don't have the... Generally don't have the really
deep freeze or the real high temperatures though.
It can get periods of it, but it does moderate
it a bit. There are some health flows from the
Canadian interior that come down through the
Fraysia River Valley, which could bring some
really cold temperatures from us from interior
Canada. Definitely a fixed frozen pikes more
than once in my house. So yeah, we're pretty
moderate as far as temperatures go. Is it moderate
enough, warm enough that your bees are out flying
all winter? No, it definitely isn't. It gets
into the higher 40s, they'll start flying then.
I like a little darker bees, but they definitely
cluster up and go broodless. The bees I have
definitely do have a brood break during the winter.
That helps. So you have a real live winter. You're
just not under three feet of snow. I can be.
Oh, really? Yes. And we live on a hill about
1200 feet elevation. And I have a land cruiser
with lockers and the axles and stuff. I get up
and down in the snow while the neighbors are
parking. That makes a difference. It does. It
does. I love my old black dessert. So Brian,
how long have you been beekeeping? I've been
beekeeping since 2020. Started right during the
pandemic. Started seeing if I could make my own
bread. And it's like, oh, it's got pretty good
at doing the old sourdough. It got bee - Taylor
Swift, that trend, but then it's like, no, I
wonder if I can make trigger. And that's why
I started keeping these. I thought about it for
a while. I used to pick berries when I was a
kid, you know, raspberries and blueberries. And
you'd see colonies all that hadn't been picked
up yet. The school kids were picking berries
in the summer type of thing. And I always kind
of had an interest in it. Yeah. Well, congratulations,
because a lot of people picked up new hobbies,
as you know, during the pandemic, including beekeeping.
Yeah, and some of them still are a lot aren't
so yeah good job keeping it up You've obviously
learned a lot figured it out. You were telling
me you run 30 colonies roughly Yeah, yeah, I
the end of last summer going to the fall. I had
33 Yeah, I'd like to get back up there, you know,
if had some some losses and uh, Langstroth Nile
hives links drop deeps for now but in different
size boxes, a nuke box, five or six spring. Michael
Palmer, you know, brew factory type of deals,
those, about five of those. And you use smaller
honey supers as well? Oh yeah, I, everything's
10 frame medium and I probably have close to
30 drawn out supers when I harvest. You know,
we have such short season, I don't want to have
my bees to have to drop home to be able to harvest.
honey every year to draw a new comb. It just
takes so much of their resources and whatnot
to do that. So I just, I'll cut off the cappings
and spin them out and make sure they get cleaned
up and store them away nice and safe and never
have root in them. So. And about when do you
harvest every year? The county fair is in early
August. I'll do a couple of harvest. I'll do
stuff for the fair right away. As soon as I see
some cap brains, I'll just steal those out. and
do a quick extraction of that. And then I'll
put those back in the colony and then harvest
in August for first part of September. And by
the way, thanks for sending the picture with
your blue ribbon and congratulations. Oh, thank
you. Yeah, it was a blue ribbon and a Bespin
class. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, not just to say
I'm a Derby winner. Well, congrats. Yeah, you're
the winner on everything. Things work out for
me, it seems. As we were chatting the other day,
you had mentioned that you've got some pests
that are part of the reason why all your bees
don't make it through winter. Can we jump into
that? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I live in the woods,
you know, right next to this huge state park,
probably one of the nicest state parks in the
state, Moran State Park, named after the former
mayor of Seattle. The battleship USS Nebraska,
and it was killing them. And the doctor said,
you've got a few months to live, bud. He's sighting
all school. I'm just gonna go up to Orcas and
live the rest of my days up there. And he ended
up living for another 40 years. Violins are just
kind of a magical place. I don't know if it's
officially a blue zone. There's some evidence
that it might be a blue zone where people tend
to live a longer life. Yeah, we live next to
this forest. And the forest, there's a lot of
native bees, including yellow jackets. They could
be rather pesky and I've lost strong highs and
not just weak highs too. I've lost a couple of
big booming double deep colonies with really
reduced entrances and they're still having a
heck of a time fighting off yellow jackets. It's
a little crazy. Let's talk yellow jackets for
a few minutes because it's our number one pest
here as well. Yeah. When I was fairly new at
beekeeping and lost my first hive to yellow jackets
I was told well if it was a strong healthy hive
yellow jackets wouldn't be able to kill it well
you and I have both witnessed that is not always
the case and it is oh man it's a horrible horrible
thing to watch because you can go out there and
it looks kind of like robbing and you look closer
and you just see these yellow jackets taking
the bees apart and and the guard bees come out
and they try to do their deal and it's not a
fair fight. Yellow Jacket can just take them
out. Now everybody is going to find something
different that works for them. I'm going to tell
you what works for me and then I want to hear
some of the things that work for you. Now I know
there's all kinds of great robber screens that
you can buy that make it harder for any kinds
of flying predators to get inside a hive. With
where I particularly am, the Yellow Jackets hit
right around the first of September. So I know
just before then is the time to prepare. And
I use an entrance reducer, but it's not a regular
wooden one. I take hardware cloth that's fine
enough that bees and Yellow Jackets can't get
through it. I run that. across the front of the
entrance and I leave an opening that's only about
an inch and that's it. Now the reason I use hardware
cloth is because it's still really hot and so
whether it's that or some other kind of screen
the bees definitely need the airflow. I can't
just put a wooden entrance reducer in. Now with
a strong hive in my experience they can win that
battle with that small of an entrance. How about
you? You mentioned entrance reducer wasn't even
enough. So tell me what happened. They, uh, just
over overwhelmed the colonies. And I do have
a bunch of the, the white, uh, robber screens.
I won't mention the product names. So I've had
some success with that, but sometimes it's just,
it doesn't, it doesn't matter. They just, I don't
know if there's a pheromone that, uh, is given
off or maybe a bread. the aggressiveness out
of the bees where they're just more susceptible
to that because there's some bees that are right
next to the ones that are having problems that
may not even be as strong and they don't have
any issues. Did you notice that those other bees
were a little bit hotter and the ones that were
killed were maybe a little friendlier to people,
that is? That's right. It's the fortel, the highest
in my colony. I'll make a video. diary type of
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ones that I made that notation are doing great,
you know. So I, it's anecdotal, but I think I'm
going to be be running some hotter bees here
in the future and maybe use those queens for
grafting here. Makes sense. And then the other
thing that a lot of us do And you may be too
close to the woods, but we try to control all
of the Yellow Jackets that we can. I mean, I
just barely put some traps out to try to get
the Queens. We're in the spring right now of
2026. So I do that. And then in the summer, I
just, I've got Yellow Jacket traps up all over
the place. including around the beehives. Some
people says maybe it attracts them closer to
the hives. I'll put them like 10 feet away from
a handful of hives. And, you know, I'm going
to mention a whole bunch of things and I don't
know which ones work the best. I think a combination
of things help. I have also put up those paper
things that look like a paper wasp hive. Have
you seen those? No, I have not. You can just
get them on Amazon for a couple of bucks. They're
really cheap and they look almost like a paper
lantern or something. And so they're maybe, I
don't know, maybe 10 inches high and six inches
wide or something. And they look like a paper
wasp nest. I'm told that hornets don't like paper
wasps. So I will also put those out in the apiary
by beehives. Maybe hanging from a tree 10 feet
away or something. Again, I have no idea how
much that is helping, but I'm doing all the things.
Yeah. Yeah. I definitely see some things online
with different traps and the commercially available
ones. I have some of those and definitely going
to try the, uh, was it chicken suspended over
a pool of soapy water upside down. There's a
bunch of things like that on YouTube that people
can look up. I just figure the more hornets I'm
taking out of the atmosphere, the better. Yeah.
And it's just so hard to find their nest because
yellow jackets nest in the ground. And if you're
in an area like me, I mean, I'm around acres
and acres of nothing. And so it's just really,
really hard to find them. I do every once in
a blue moon. Once every couple of years, I'll
find one and take it out. Yeah. I found one last
year right by my house, right by my foundation
and gave him a little dawn and water and took
that one out. Still had a plague around the highs.
It was crazy. Well, and you can get 5 ,000 plus,
right, of yellow jackets in a little underground
hive like that or nest, whatever they call them.
Anyway, the chicken thing. If nobody has seen
this before, let's try to describe it. I haven't
done it yet, it looks like you've seen it, I've
seen it. And you take a bin, a big plastic bin
or bucket or whatever, that's nearly full of
water. You take a piece of wood, hang it over
that, and you staple, tie, whatever, some raw
chicken on the bottom side of that wood. just
a little bit above the water so that the hornets
fly in. They munch, munch, take some big chunks
out of the chicken. They drop slightly before
they can start flying out. That's when they hit
the water. And of course you've put a little
dish soap in the water, right, so that They can't
easily get back off of it. They drown quickly
because you've broken the tension in the water.
And I've seen people catch thousands of yellow
jackets that way. Yeah. It looked like a good
way to go, to be honest. Pick your favorite way.
Hey, this is just me. We love all pollinators,
but there's some that are hurting our favorite
pollinators. And so I don't mind getting rid
of some of those. Yeah, my wife loves hiking
in the woods and every once in a while comes
a little too close to a ground nesting yellow
jacket and Well, we'll find you know, I hear
about it. So yeah, I don't mind doing something
with those for sure Yeah, yeah, they don't belong
on this planet in my opinion. Okay, you didn't
hear that from me Well, we have some gooseberries
that are really like that that they're a little
too early for the honeybees usually Well, and
by the way, those yellow jackets, some people
call bees that don't know the difference. They're
the ones ruining your picnic as well. Yeah. Yep.
Yeah. I definitely got a swarm call for some
honeybees in a wood pile last year. It's like,
can you send me a picture before I go to another
island to pick up these three honeybees? Yeah.
So speaking of islands, so you're on an island.
Do you take a ferry to get everywhere? Yeah.
Yeah. We don't have, there's no stoplights. Uh,
on any of the islands, when we go to the mainland
Anacortes, it feels like we call it going to
America. Just because our little kind of peaceful
bubble out here. And when you started with bees,
did you buy your bees from somewhere on the mainland
and then ship them over with you? Or are there
beekeepers on your island you were able to buy
them from? Getting started, I just found a a
person who was bringing packages up from California
and I went down to the Seattle area and picked
them up. And of course it was during COVID, so
they'd bring them out to your car, put them in
the back and you'd go off. There wasn't much,
you know, getting out and talking and whatever.
It was just, here you be, see ya. But yeah, and
I've also gone down and picked up packages from
people too in my earlier days. So the thing with
the packages, we don't have small high beetles
on our end. I know they're in the neighboring
county. Brie Price is our local extension person
there. Washington State mentions that. Yeah,
they are in Saskatchewan County. I have sold
some newts to people on the island just so that
we don't accidentally get small hot beetles on
the island or for now, and probably triple elapsed
in the future would be something to... Good reason
not to head for the east of the island. You're
not allowed to say the T word on this show. No,
geez. Okay. Put me in timeout. No, we're, we're
just avoiding that topic as long as we can. Yeah.
Well, yeah. Yeah. But, uh, forewarned is. Oh,
I forget the saying. Anyway, if you know about
it, you can do, do things to try to prevent it.
Yes. I'm being facetious, obviously, but there's
so much hard stuff to talk about already with
Varroa and other pests. Glad you don't also have
small hypias. That's one less. Yeah. It's another
layer of the onion to peel back with, but you
don't be keeping it as it seems like. you learn
something new and you feel a layer of it, and
you think you're getting closer to the center
of it, but now there's more layers there. That's
why it's so interesting. Again, as we were chatting
the other day, you mentioned something you called
beekeeping ethics. Would you explain what that
is? Beekeeping is local, right? The way you keep
your bees is the way you feel, you know, because
you have certain beliefs and whatever. I like
to treat my bees. So I want to protect our local
native pollinators. We have lots of bubbles and
mining bees and even yellow jackets. But, you
know, I don't want to create a mite bomb for
these other bees or whatever, or hurt the environment.
I definitely want to actively manage my bees.
So in a responsible manner, of which to me, I
feel is responsible. It's personal, right? I
feel like I need to be a... beekeeper instead
of behabber. And to paraphrase Greek philosophers,
an unexamined hive is not worth keeping. Let's
have Plato or Socrates. I think they both may
have said it in different times, but anyway,
yeah, I, uh, it's just important to me. I see
some people use, uh, well, actually that sounds
like a tap, this might sound like a tap, but
the, uh, the double bubble is like in place of
an intercovers and it's that plastic with the
the bubble insulation and used to be some of
their videos and they peel off and said, oh,
there's a flake of plastic. I think I just saw
a fall down in their eye and microplastics. That's
something you hear quite a bit about being in
our bloodstream and whatever. And I don't know.
It's just something that I am not going to do.
And that's just one of the ethical choices that
is important to me, not necessarily important
to other people. And I like the term that you
used a minute ago which was responsibility or
responsible beekeeping because let's talk swarming
for a second. Sure. I know lots of people that
are into beekeeping just as naturally as possible
and they let their bees swarm and that's great
until it shows up at your neighbor's house and
they're not so happy about it. Yeah. It takes
common sense. If you want to let them swarm,
great, but let's somehow make sure they're not
bothering your neighbors. Yeah. And the same
with Varroa and the same with spraying all kinds
of pesticides and herbicides all over everything.
What we're doing affects other people too. So
I'm glad you're looking at that and trying to
be responsible. Yeah. And, you know, making sure
they have a water source that they like better
than the neighbor's dog's water bowl. Whenever
I had one of those issues here a few years ago.
Yeah. You don't want to upset the apple cart.
Part of what's fun with this show is just meeting
beekeepers from all over the place, all over
the world. And you're in a unique area. What
other kinds of things have you learned that you
might be able to share with other people in a
situation similar to yours? I don't know. I feel
like our situation is pretty unique from our
isolation and the fact that there are some beekeepers
on our island, but there aren't a ton of them.
It's fairly unique. We don't have traditional
row crops and we don't have to worry about the
spring things. We do have some, I do have actually
organic apple orchard very close to me. A few
hundred trees. I don't know how big your island
is, but if I were moving to your island, maybe
three or four miles away from you. And I was
already a beekeeper, but I'm like, I'm used to
keeping bees in the mountains and in the desert.
What advice would you have for me there? Well,
there's the universal stuff. It's like, when
was your last mic count? How many, how many you
find, you know, that kind of thing. I, I, uh,
I like to do the tenet singhai, which basically
insulate a roof. I do wrap the outside. Get a
lot of lens here. Galeforce lens, small craft
advisories, that kind of thing. A lens over 50.
50 knots. I do like, I feel like the slatted
racks help a little bit with the wind hitting,
getting up into the brood cones a lot. It was
something I adopted earlier on in my beginning
career. Oxalic acid vaporization is a real popular
treatment. The first one everybody gets is the...
the one you plug into the deep cycle battery
and it has a tray. And I felt like I burned some
cones at one point, so it's like maybe I'll put
a little slider rack on there. And there's definitely
other benefits too, besides a little protection
from rudimentary OAV applicators. There's more
room that the cones get drawn out better. If
you don't have a slider rack on there and I have
some, my five frame equipment or whatever, the
bottom of the cones by near the entrance doesn't
get drawn out so well and you have to... pull
them up and flip them and whenever you do that,
disturb the brood nests, it sets the bees back
a bit. So I do like them for that reason as well.
It gives them a whole more room, a little more
time to catch them before they fly off into a
tree as well. Do you have a chance to catch many
swarms where you are? Yeah. Yeah. Last year I
caught four. None from my own colonies. Three
of those was from somebody who overfed their
bees and just they backfilled the brood nest
and they just went to the trees and there's like
three after swarms and then another one was a
colony over on a different island. Just started
drawing comb outside in this apple tree. I do
catch a good bit of swarms. Yeah, I always put
the swarm traps in and wherever I have my an
apiary set up. I feel like it's a responsible
thing to do. You know, landing in the neighbor's
bush, an elderberry bush is much nicer for the
person whose bush it is then versus, oh I found
a Dead spots in the house where there is any
insulation and how you're doing a cut out and
cutting down there their house to retrieve some
bees But yeah, I think swarm crafts are very
important for that You seem like somebody that
would have a really fun wild and crazy beekeeping
story Were you sure one was this? Yeah, I could
do that. I could do that. Oh, are you familiar
with movie Greyhound there with Tom Hanks World
War two? Sorry, I have not seen it Okay. All
right. So Tom Hanks is the captain of a destroyer
protecting a convoy in World War two when there's
a German wolf pack that are Set out to destroy
the protection of the convoy and the convoy itself
So it's a very intense movie at the end of it
but they let the convoy other ships from the
English mainland have come and took took over
for them and They're going into port to get patched
up because you know, they suffered some damage
or whatever Tom Hanks goes to his second -in
-command. It's like, you have the con. That deck
hostler takes over and commands the ship and
brings them into harbor, and whatnot, and goes
off. And that's the end of the victory. My job
is similar. I'm the second command of a captain.
I'm Richard Merrier. I'm in charge of a navigational
watch. And we listen to different things, like
air traffic control. We have vessel traffic control.
We have a radio for that. We have a different
radio for making pi -dows, passing... arrangement
and also in the corner sometimes we'll have a
radio on we'll listen to classic rock or whatever
and every once in a while it'll be during a beat
club zoom meeting and i'll have that going on
you know on a level where we could hear all of
our other radios but we can still pay attention
to that anyway so this one beat club meeting
just listen to it the guest came on very respectable
randy elever It's good stuff for the beekeeping
community. I think that's indisputable. He came
on and lit the zoom meeting and he wanted everybody
in the meeting to see their face. And, you know,
I've been a darkened pilot since that night.
Brian, I want you to turn on your camera so I
can see your face. No, I can't do that. It's
like, Brian, and he wouldn't let it go. And I
just, you know, obviously couldn't destroy my
light. night vision by looking at the thing and
turning on the light so he could see my face.
So I just had to reach over and just turn off
the volume. And I don't know, I hopefully he,
he, he, he did it safer, you know, asked for
me to keep doing that for a long time, but I
don't know. I just turned the volume down because
that's kind of what I had to do. And I just felt
so, I still feel embarrassed about it. It just
like getting caught out by Andy Oliver. It's
just not something you want to do as a Vkeeper,
right? Oh my gosh. But that was my embarrassing
moment. Your embarrassing moment didn't even
have any honeybees in it. It wasn't getting stung
in a weird place or anything else. No, no, but
it was just getting called out by Randy Oliver
and disappointing. I just felt so small, but
it's what I had to do. Someone like Randy Oliver
probably has the authority to take your beekeeper
merit badge away. I'm a boy scout. I guess I'm
a bad boy scout. I don't know. Probably not the
first one. All right. Last question and you're
welcome to think about it for a minute. And that
is, you know, I can tell that you just really
love the bees and really enjoy spending time
with them. What is it about it that you love?
It just, um, it forces you to be present, to,
you know, take a deep breath and be calm when
you're working your bees. You don't want to squish
them, see what's going on. and react. It's kind
of similar to my job. Not all the things you
see out the window you need to react to immediately.
Some you could just monitor, right, and see what
happens. But other times there's things where
you just got to act and make a change. I find
it really peaceful. I guess that's one of the
pitches for the Heist for Heroes thing, to help
people who've faced some adversity and whatever,
and just kind of help manage your mental health
a bit, you know? And I find that it... It does
makes me calm. I like that calm is a good thing
and you're in a beautiful beautiful place I'm
gonna have to get up there one of these days
if you do feel free to Look me up anybody actually
anybody who comes up to work is right in the
middle of two World Cup venues in Vancouver and
Seattle gonna have lots of people in the area
if there's me beekeepers who want to go through
a hive drop me an email at I wouldn't be supply
at gmail .com and to go poke around. All right.
I want to go salmon fishing too. Okay. All right.
July. It's a short season these days. They haven't
been running too many tournaments, but I've seen
orca whales out there feeding. The southern residents
were out here just last week and saw those. I
actually saw a gray whale last week too. That's
pretty crazy. Nice. Yeah. All right. Take care,
Brian. All right. Take care. Thank you for having
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