WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:06.660 in a world brimming with complexity few creatures 00:00:06.660 --> 00:00:12.839 embody harmony like the honeybee with tireless 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:17.699 precision she dances from bloom to bloom each 00:00:17.699 --> 00:00:22.420 motion guided by millennia upon millennia of 00:00:22.420 --> 00:00:28.800 instinct each act in service to the whole and 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:34.560 then There are the beekeepers, watchful stewards 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:40.500 of this ancient symbiosis. Part agriscientist, 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:45.460 part poet, they move along their hives with the 00:00:45.460 --> 00:00:50.560 efficiency of mow, levy and curly, tending to 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:54.219 the bees' needs as best they can comprehend, 00:00:54.859 --> 00:00:59.670 and with the infrequency of a waterfall in the 00:00:59.670 --> 00:01:05.549 Sahara, sometimes running off flapping and flailing 00:01:05.549 --> 00:01:12.090 like a penguin on a hot sidewalk. This is their 00:01:12.090 --> 00:01:23.890 journey. Welcome, welcome to Be Love Beekeeping 00:01:23.890 --> 00:01:26.549 presented by our good friends and partners in 00:01:26.549 --> 00:01:29.780 beekeeping. Man Lake. Today we're going all the 00:01:29.780 --> 00:01:33.219 way to Romania for the first in our series about 00:01:33.219 --> 00:01:36.760 everything Apitherapy. Our guest is the world's 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:41.280 leading authority on Apitherapy, Dr. Stefan Stangaciu, 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:43.980 MD. If you've ever wanted to learn more about 00:01:43.980 --> 00:01:46.879 the healing properties and benefits of honey, 00:01:47.180 --> 00:01:50.859 propolis, bee venom, pollen, royal jelly, even 00:01:50.859 --> 00:01:53.939 bee air and more, I think you'll really enjoy 00:01:53.939 --> 00:01:56.829 hearing from Dr. Stefan. He and I could have 00:01:56.829 --> 00:02:00.670 talked for hours and hours, but we tried to keep 00:02:00.670 --> 00:02:03.430 it succinct enough to fit into two or three episodes. 00:02:04.109 --> 00:02:07.510 In part one today, we dig deep into the healing 00:02:07.510 --> 00:02:10.610 benefits of propolis and also learn the best 00:02:10.610 --> 00:02:13.979 way to extract honey. for medicinal and health 00:02:13.979 --> 00:02:17.900 purposes. First, I've just got to mention this 00:02:17.900 --> 00:02:21.099 lantern fly honey that's all the buzz right now. 00:02:21.379 --> 00:02:25.000 One person described it as, instead of the gentle 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:27.860 sweet taste of regular honey, it's more like 00:02:27.860 --> 00:02:32.439 your grandparents cough drops. This dark reddish 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:35.879 mysterious honey has been described by a professional 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:41.120 taster as having notes of smoky, savory, salty, 00:02:41.699 --> 00:02:45.819 resinous, and lightly fruity. Some people absolutely 00:02:45.819 --> 00:02:49.419 love it, some just think it's weird, but no, 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:52.479 really the weird part is how it's made. You see, 00:02:52.860 --> 00:02:56.020 lanternflies secrete a sticky, sugary substance 00:02:56.020 --> 00:02:59.300 after slurping on tree sap in late summer and 00:02:59.300 --> 00:03:03.500 fall. That's secretion. also known as poop, is 00:03:03.500 --> 00:03:06.659 sucked up by honey bees taken back to their hives 00:03:06.659 --> 00:03:09.379 and treated like nectar, eventually becoming 00:03:09.379 --> 00:03:13.620 honey, lanternfly honey. So if you're offered 00:03:13.620 --> 00:03:17.199 some new lanternfly honey, at least now you'll 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:24.780 know what you're putting in your mouth. I am 00:03:24.780 --> 00:03:28.020 unbelievably excited today because we have a 00:03:28.020 --> 00:03:31.590 guest You all know that I'm interested in apotherapy, 00:03:32.009 --> 00:03:35.949 and we have today who I think is the world's 00:03:35.949 --> 00:03:39.990 foremost authority on apotherapy, and he is over 00:03:39.990 --> 00:03:45.610 in Romania, Dr. Stefan Stengetu. Welcome to the 00:03:45.610 --> 00:03:49.629 show. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me here. 00:03:50.310 --> 00:03:52.469 And I paused because I wanted to make sure I 00:03:52.469 --> 00:03:54.729 pronounced your name properly. Did I get close? 00:03:55.849 --> 00:03:58.460 You are very good, very good, very good. Thank 00:03:58.460 --> 00:04:02.919 you so much. Hey, before we jump into the down 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:05.939 and dirty of really what apotherapy is, give 00:04:05.939 --> 00:04:08.419 us a little bit of your background so people 00:04:08.419 --> 00:04:11.919 realize your qualifications both in the medical 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:16.319 field and you're a beekeeper too. Okay, yes. 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:19.199 So I'm a medical doctor. I'm a specialist in 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:22.680 family medicine. And I have also what are called 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:27.100 like over specializations in acupuncture and 00:04:27.100 --> 00:04:31.300 apiphytoaromatherapy. So apitherapy is the B 00:04:31.300 --> 00:04:34.199 products for health. Phytotherapy is like herbal 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:37.319 medicine. And aromatherapy, everybody knows. 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:42.610 And I discovered the bees in 1991. When I heard 00:04:42.610 --> 00:04:47.029 about the Keepers having unbelievable healing 00:04:47.029 --> 00:04:51.079 successes, beekeepers who were not medical doctors, 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:56.040 and still they got excellent results. So I went, 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:58.439 I spoke with these people and I said, wow, wow, 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.639 it's very interesting. So if a normal person, 00:05:01.660 --> 00:05:04.920 a beekeeper can heal better than the doctors, 00:05:05.379 --> 00:05:08.379 certain diseases, I said, this is something very 00:05:08.379 --> 00:05:10.879 interesting. So I need to study. So I went to 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:13.939 Bucharest, Bucharest and Bucharest, it were at 00:05:13.939 --> 00:05:17.560 the time two big libraries on beekeeping, but 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:20.759 So if a lot of articles and books on AP therapy, 00:05:21.300 --> 00:05:24.220 and this was in 1991, I started one summer long, 00:05:24.300 --> 00:05:27.220 all these books I copied, photocopied everything 00:05:27.220 --> 00:05:30.980 I can, I could. And then I started to put all 00:05:30.980 --> 00:05:34.639 this information in a nice order according to 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:37.939 traditional Chinese medicine, because I studied 00:05:37.939 --> 00:05:40.519 already before that traditional Chinese medicine. 00:05:41.019 --> 00:05:43.199 And the Chinese medicine has a kind of thinking 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.720 which is very interesting. It's kind of a mnemonic 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:50.120 method, like Yin and Yang, the five elements. 00:05:50.660 --> 00:05:53.300 And then when you have in front of your eyes 00:05:53.300 --> 00:05:57.579 these symbols, they are like filters helping 00:05:57.579 --> 00:06:00.259 you to diagnose and also to establish a treatment. 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:05.120 So after 1991, after I started to treat my own 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.160 patients with apitherapy, at the beginning I 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.800 made mistakes. For example, some of the patients 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:15.220 I put too many bestings too soon, not detoxing 00:06:15.220 --> 00:06:17.540 the body, not taking all the other measures. 00:06:18.139 --> 00:06:21.279 So six, seven patients have had allergic reactions. 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:24.339 Fortunately, it were not big allergic reactions, 00:06:24.620 --> 00:06:27.639 but still was uncomfortable. So step by step 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:30.220 I learned and then I started to give lectures 00:06:30.220 --> 00:06:33.879 in other countries. And my strategy, if you want, 00:06:34.500 --> 00:06:38.600 was to, I was giving books or articles or knowledge. 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.879 and in exchange I've got other knowledge on other 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.060 books and other journals and so on from the people 00:06:46.060 --> 00:06:49.019 I was visiting. So now we have in Romania one 00:06:49.019 --> 00:06:52.160 of the best apitherapy databases in the world. 00:06:52.620 --> 00:06:55.199 I am now the president of the International Federation 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:58.860 of Apitherapy. I was 20 years president of the 00:06:58.860 --> 00:07:02.160 German Apitherapy Society and I organized there 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:06.319 over 20 international events with speakers from 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:10.100 all over the world. And I'm also president of 00:07:10.100 --> 00:07:12.699 the Romanian Apitherapy, Phytotherapy and Aromatherapy 00:07:12.699 --> 00:07:15.379 Society. So I'm telling you this just to tell 00:07:15.379 --> 00:07:19.000 you that there are so many people in apitherapy 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.220 all over the world. So I calculated over 100 00:07:22.220 --> 00:07:25.879 ,000 apitherapy practitioners in almost every 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:29.740 country, except Antarctica. In every country 00:07:29.740 --> 00:07:31.660 where there are bees, there are also apitherapy 00:07:31.660 --> 00:07:34.399 practitioners. During all these years, of course, 00:07:34.899 --> 00:07:37.639 I refined step by step my treatment protocols, 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:41.579 my thinking. And what is amazing, every day I 00:07:41.579 --> 00:07:46.139 learn new things. So it's unbelievable. The topic 00:07:46.139 --> 00:07:50.379 is really huge because the bees are living beings. 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:53.459 The bee colony is extremely complex and we learn 00:07:53.459 --> 00:07:57.540 a lot from them. Wow. The topic is huge. And 00:07:57.540 --> 00:08:00.199 so I hardly know where to start because there's 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:03.379 so much to cover. I'm tempted to keep you here 00:08:03.379 --> 00:08:06.720 longer than we earlier agreed to to have two 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:09.180 sessions come out of this, but we'll see how 00:08:09.180 --> 00:08:13.000 it goes. Give us an overall idea. A lot of us 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.000 have heard of bee sting therapy. Some of us have 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.480 even messed around with it a little bit, but 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:22.060 I know that you have experience with other hive 00:08:22.060 --> 00:08:25.860 products. Tell us everything from the bee hive 00:08:25.860 --> 00:08:28.649 that you use. And I'm guessing it's everything. 00:08:29.290 --> 00:08:31.970 Yes, yes, yes, you are right. It's everything. 00:08:33.269 --> 00:08:36.690 And most people, they know about honey. And also 00:08:36.690 --> 00:08:40.230 one other thing, unfortunately, most beekeepers, 00:08:40.470 --> 00:08:43.669 they focus in the production only to honey. And 00:08:43.669 --> 00:08:47.570 this is a huge missed opportunity because I give 00:08:47.570 --> 00:08:50.870 you just a short explanation here. If you look, 00:08:51.350 --> 00:08:54.629 the health is more important than food, than 00:08:54.629 --> 00:08:59.090 nutrition. Categorical is more important than 00:08:59.090 --> 00:09:02.230 health. For the beekeeper who wants to survive 00:09:02.230 --> 00:09:05.389 on the market because of the prices and so on 00:09:05.389 --> 00:09:09.269 and so on, the idea to sell his honey as a food 00:09:09.269 --> 00:09:15.149 is a bad idea. If you look to the health element, 00:09:15.850 --> 00:09:18.850 the honey is very, very important for the healing 00:09:18.850 --> 00:09:23.450 properties like antioxidant, antibacterial, antiviral, 00:09:23.789 --> 00:09:27.070 anti -inflammatory, and so on, because it contains 00:09:27.070 --> 00:09:29.929 several groups of substances. And one of the 00:09:29.929 --> 00:09:33.850 most important is the one on polyphenols. Now, 00:09:34.470 --> 00:09:39.509 in the pollen you find like 50 times more polyphenols 00:09:39.509 --> 00:09:42.960 than in honey. And in propolis, you find like 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:47.860 200 times more. So if you want to have a healing 00:09:47.860 --> 00:09:52.519 effects, pollen, bee bread, propolis are much 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:55.399 more important than honey. And the price is that 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.320 the sales of the beekeeper when they go on these 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:02.889 other products. can give to the beekeeper enough 00:10:02.889 --> 00:10:05.590 amount of money to be able to survive and not 00:10:05.590 --> 00:10:08.669 only to survive to go to higher levels like to 00:10:08.669 --> 00:10:11.669 open for example we'll discuss maybe later a 00:10:11.669 --> 00:10:17.169 bee house for beehive air therapy okay now this 00:10:17.169 --> 00:10:19.450 is a short introduction there are some other 00:10:19.450 --> 00:10:21.870 mistakes the beekeepers are doing for example 00:10:21.870 --> 00:10:25.740 centrifugation the honey centrifugation from 00:10:25.740 --> 00:10:29.159 the apitherapy point of view. It's also a mistake. 00:10:30.220 --> 00:10:32.720 The best honey is the one which is like slowly, 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:36.600 slowly pressed or dripping honey. And the best 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:40.259 method is to have a sterile container. And then 00:10:40.259 --> 00:10:45.519 you have a frame. Then you make like small pouches. 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.960 How do you call it? Like you sting each cell 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:52.000 of the hexagonal of the comb. You need to open 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:56.269 up the cappings. Yes, but you do it not not brutally 00:10:56.269 --> 00:10:59.610 like classical like all of them once just in 00:10:59.610 --> 00:11:03.990 each hexagonal cell you make one small or say 00:11:03.990 --> 00:11:07.149 like two small holes and the honey will drip 00:11:07.149 --> 00:11:10.509 slowly slowly here and the contact of honey with 00:11:10.509 --> 00:11:13.730 air will be limited and this is the main problem 00:11:13.730 --> 00:11:18.059 in centrifugation because in centrifugation A 00:11:18.059 --> 00:11:21.200 small amount of honey is spread with big force 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:26.200 on the internal wall of this cylinder and the 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.759 honey is exposed to huge amounts of air and air 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:34.940 contains oxygen and oxygen oxidizes. So a part 00:11:34.940 --> 00:11:38.860 of the polyphenols of the honey which are antioxidant 00:11:38.860 --> 00:11:42.279 are destroyed by this oxidation. It's not a strong 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:45.220 oxidation but still it's an oxidation. The other 00:11:45.220 --> 00:11:48.460 bad thing is that in the air, the air is not 00:11:48.460 --> 00:11:53.740 sterile. The air in a PRE, where there is no 00:11:53.740 --> 00:11:56.720 centrifugation room, the air is full of microbes 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:00.240 and spores and viruses. If you ask a physician, 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:05.820 no, not a physician, a physicist, how many dust 00:12:05.820 --> 00:12:09.019 particles are in the air, they will tell you 00:12:09.019 --> 00:12:12.840 that in one cubic meter, is there are like 200 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:17.799 ,000 to 400 ,000 dust particles. So practically, 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:21.659 the beekeeper brings centrifugation, oxidizes 00:12:21.659 --> 00:12:24.899 the honey, and contaminates the honey. If you 00:12:24.899 --> 00:12:28.100 ask a specialist in microbiology, they will tell 00:12:28.100 --> 00:12:31.799 you that on these dust particles, every third, 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.059 fourth dust particle may have a virus on it. 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.759 So it's really a contamination of the honey. 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.919 And the third very, very bad thing which is happening 00:12:41.500 --> 00:12:44.820 because of this huge contact surface with the 00:12:44.820 --> 00:12:48.379 air, the honey loses a lot of aromas, a lot of 00:12:48.379 --> 00:12:52.159 essential oils, a lot of perfumes. And these 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:54.879 essential oils are very powerful antimicrobial, 00:12:55.059 --> 00:12:57.679 antiviral, anti -inflammatory. And you know, 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:01.600 when you take a honey, as it is very fresh from 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:04.179 the beehive, from the honeycomb, the taste is 00:13:04.179 --> 00:13:07.159 wonderful, the aroma is wonderful. But the same 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:09.620 frame when you make centrifugation, and then 00:13:09.620 --> 00:13:12.960 you put in the jar, is not any more so aromatic. 00:13:13.899 --> 00:13:17.440 So the problem for apitherapy is that if you 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:21.019 have this excessive centrifugation and if the 00:13:21.019 --> 00:13:23.940 beekeeper also is using a lot of smoking the 00:13:23.940 --> 00:13:26.980 quality of honey will diminish and as a result 00:13:26.980 --> 00:13:30.620 of this the healing effect will not be so powerful. 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:34.399 So you lose time and this is not good to have 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.549 it, to lose it. Alright, I have to interject 00:13:37.549 --> 00:13:40.230 a couple of quick things here. And that is if 00:13:40.230 --> 00:13:42.850 you're a commercial beekeeper with a thousand 00:13:42.850 --> 00:13:46.690 or ten thousand hives, it's probably not realistic 00:13:46.690 --> 00:13:50.470 that you can harvest honey that way. But if you 00:13:50.470 --> 00:13:54.210 have a few hives, it sounds like maybe this is 00:13:54.210 --> 00:13:56.889 something that you can do. Can I give the contra 00:13:56.889 --> 00:14:00.730 argument to this? Yes. Yeah, please. Yes. Yes. 00:14:01.090 --> 00:14:05.049 So. when that commercial beekeeper will get for 00:14:05.049 --> 00:14:10.029 his honey let's say 20 -30 % more money than 00:14:10.029 --> 00:14:13.620 before you will find the technical solutions. 00:14:14.220 --> 00:14:16.639 And the human mind is unbelievably creative. 00:14:17.299 --> 00:14:20.139 Now imagine that instead of having these complicated 00:14:20.139 --> 00:14:24.259 machines with the, like pushing the frames one 00:14:24.259 --> 00:14:27.200 after another and then the uncapping and then 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:29.879 centrifugation, there are so many operations. 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:35.039 Here it will be just like, you know, like acupuncture. 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.539 Imagine a table, like with thousands needles. 00:14:38.940 --> 00:14:42.179 which looks upwards and you make a system where 00:14:42.179 --> 00:14:45.879 you put 100 such frames on top of this system 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:49.080 with thousand needles let's say and then just 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:52.419 a short tuck all of them once then a bit like 00:14:52.419 --> 00:14:55.139 this and then you replace all the this needles 00:14:55.139 --> 00:14:58.500 part with the containers and then you do some 00:14:58.500 --> 00:15:01.360 other things of course the dripping of honey 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:05.340 will not be so fast like going out of the cells 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:09.759 but the time to do centrifugation and also to 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.100 wait then three days for the air to go out of 00:15:13.100 --> 00:15:16.940 the honey. And then you put the honey into the 00:15:16.940 --> 00:15:19.860 barrel. So like if you compare three days with 00:15:19.860 --> 00:15:23.879 maybe one hour, it's a big difference. The other 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:28.019 problem for the quality of the honey, for medicinal 00:15:28.019 --> 00:15:31.539 beekeeping, we need the honey which has almost 00:15:31.539 --> 00:15:35.330 no bacteria. And now, to be very, very sincere, 00:15:35.570 --> 00:15:39.570 if you ask 100 commercial beekeepers, you ask 00:15:39.570 --> 00:15:42.629 them, how do you do, you start the centrifugation. 00:15:42.909 --> 00:15:45.750 Let's say at the end of the season, you got 1 00:15:45.750 --> 00:15:48.169 ,000 beehives and you want to do that centrifugation. 00:15:48.649 --> 00:15:52.350 So they use these centrifugation machines. And 00:15:52.350 --> 00:15:56.149 normally, after each centrifugation in the evening, 00:15:56.590 --> 00:15:59.929 they need to sterilize the container. to wash 00:15:59.929 --> 00:16:03.490 with hot water and sterilize it. And then ask 00:16:03.490 --> 00:16:06.370 them to be very sincere. How many of them are 00:16:06.370 --> 00:16:10.070 doing every evening this cleansing of the machine 00:16:10.070 --> 00:16:14.110 inside? Maybe one in 20. So what is happening? 00:16:14.450 --> 00:16:18.230 So they do day after day centrifugation in the 00:16:18.230 --> 00:16:21.889 same centrifuge without cleaning it every evening. 00:16:22.490 --> 00:16:26.950 As a result of this, if you make microbial analysis 00:16:26.950 --> 00:16:29.970 in the first day, and let's say after 10 days, 00:16:30.730 --> 00:16:33.190 the amount of microbes in the honey grows, grows, 00:16:33.190 --> 00:16:37.110 grows, grows, grows. Because the dust particles, 00:16:37.110 --> 00:16:41.809 I told you, they contaminate the honey. So there 00:16:41.809 --> 00:16:44.649 are many, many arguments. So my advice, because 00:16:44.649 --> 00:16:47.529 we are on this topic, to the commercial beekeepers, 00:16:48.149 --> 00:16:51.289 at least for their own health, for their own 00:16:51.289 --> 00:16:54.110 family. Let's say they have 1 ,000 colonies. 00:16:54.669 --> 00:16:57.870 They can put aside from this 1 ,000 colonies, 00:16:58.049 --> 00:17:01.769 let's say 50 colonies to make for apitherapy, 00:17:01.889 --> 00:17:04.789 for health, for their own family. And then they'll 00:17:04.789 --> 00:17:07.730 get step -by -step accustomed, comfortable with 00:17:07.730 --> 00:17:11.009 these other systems. And then they will expand. 00:17:11.390 --> 00:17:14.589 It may seem early, but right now is a great time 00:17:14.589 --> 00:17:18.289 to order your live bees for 2026 because they 00:17:18.289 --> 00:17:21.309 do sell out and because Man Lake is offering 00:17:21.309 --> 00:17:25.250 a discount for Be Love Podcast listeners. Wait, 00:17:25.569 --> 00:17:28.130 what? I know you're saying live bees, they never 00:17:28.130 --> 00:17:31.769 go on sale. Well, they are now. Click on over 00:17:31.769 --> 00:17:35.500 to Man Lake, order your bees any variety. nukes 00:17:35.500 --> 00:17:38.880 or packages and anything in the beginner essentials 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:42.140 category and when you check out use the code 00:17:42.140 --> 00:17:45.039 get started in bees it's down in the show notes 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:47.460 so you don't have to remember for a discount 00:17:47.460 --> 00:17:51.200 on everything so get your orders in early and 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:56.240 save yeah just to give an incentive about the 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:59.299 prices you know very well all American people 00:17:59.299 --> 00:18:01.180 all over all the beekeepers all over the world 00:18:01.180 --> 00:18:05.430 they know now about the manuka honey model so 00:18:05.430 --> 00:18:09.069 manuka honey a normal honey i would say a bit 00:18:09.069 --> 00:18:11.690 more different substances there but it's a normal 00:18:11.690 --> 00:18:15.589 honey and still the final price of manuka honey 00:18:15.589 --> 00:18:19.589 in germany in manuka honey form of tube like 00:18:19.589 --> 00:18:23.529 20 grams of manuka honey medicinal honey it's 00:18:23.529 --> 00:18:28.509 40 euro so 20 grams which is a soup spoon so 00:18:28.509 --> 00:18:32.250 if you made the calculation it goes to 2000 euro 00:18:32.250 --> 00:18:37.799 per kg of honey Okay, so why not to go into this 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.799 direction? And because the health again is much 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:44.339 more important than simple nutrition or simple 00:18:44.339 --> 00:18:48.000 food. Yeah, it's great marketing. Yeah, people. 00:18:48.019 --> 00:18:51.460 It's fantastic marketing. Okay, let's talk about 00:18:51.460 --> 00:18:56.299 propolis. Okay. Now, with the propolis, it's 00:18:56.299 --> 00:19:01.480 also a huge topic. The best things. uh in the 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:04.259 mind when you explain also to the to the patients 00:19:04.259 --> 00:19:07.380 to the customers to everybody you need to start 00:19:07.380 --> 00:19:10.359 from the plants which are producing the resin 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:13.140 and balsams which the bees collect to make their 00:19:13.140 --> 00:19:16.740 own propolis now here is an interesting correlation 00:19:16.740 --> 00:19:20.859 the trees which are making these resins and balsams 00:19:20.859 --> 00:19:24.440 or the shrubs mostly trees and shrubs they are 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.440 fixed living beings they have the roots and they 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.859 cannot move and it's a funny kind of saying when 00:19:30.859 --> 00:19:33.740 a tree has a disease cannot go to the hospital 00:19:33.740 --> 00:19:37.859 so it cannot go to the neighbor to ask for help 00:19:37.859 --> 00:19:42.099 so what is the tree to do when it has a disease 00:19:42.099 --> 00:19:45.140 bacterial viral and so the tree must produce 00:19:45.140 --> 00:19:51.559 its own remedies okay so in the trees are on 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:55.559 earth for millions of years. So they went through 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:59.920 all these glaciations and all this huge amount 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:04.220 of years and they were constantly attacked by 00:20:04.220 --> 00:20:07.819 other living beings like bacteria, fungus, parasites, 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:10.640 even viruses. You can say that they're partially 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:14.440 living being for millions of years. So the trees, 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:17.980 they developed a method to defend. And here is 00:20:17.980 --> 00:20:20.509 a very, very interesting aspect. If you compare 00:20:20.509 --> 00:20:24.170 the trees in the pharma industry, the trees are 00:20:24.170 --> 00:20:27.130 much, much more clever than the pharma industry 00:20:27.130 --> 00:20:30.990 regarding the antibiotics. The pharma industry 00:20:30.990 --> 00:20:34.089 is using antibiotics based on only one molecule. 00:20:35.490 --> 00:20:38.690 The agriculture industry uses also one kind of 00:20:38.690 --> 00:20:42.470 insecticide, one substance. And when you take 00:20:42.470 --> 00:20:46.720 an insect or you take a microbe, or a virus with 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:50.000 only one molecule if you keep in mind that the 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:52.740 bacteria for example has thousands hundreds of 00:20:52.740 --> 00:20:55.240 thousands of different molecules and the bacteria 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:58.519 are very intelligent at their level, they speak 00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:00.579 together, they communicate together, they create 00:21:00.579 --> 00:21:03.619 all kinds of defense mechanisms. So one molecule 00:21:03.619 --> 00:21:07.380 is a big mistake. If you look maybe, you know, 00:21:07.460 --> 00:21:10.319 in the past it was a substance, an insecticide 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:14.779 called DDT and it was against the Colorado bugs. 00:21:15.500 --> 00:21:19.480 Okay, so now you can use one ton of DDT and the 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:23.569 Colorado bugs are laughing at you. What is Mother 00:21:23.569 --> 00:21:26.349 Nature doing? Mother Nature, in the last millions 00:21:26.349 --> 00:21:31.170 of years, when the tree is attacked by viruses 00:21:31.170 --> 00:21:35.430 or bacteria, they create these protective substances 00:21:35.430 --> 00:21:39.210 around the buds and also on the bark inside and 00:21:39.210 --> 00:21:41.970 also inside the leaves. And there is a cocktail 00:21:41.970 --> 00:21:44.990 of substances, extremely, extremely complex, 00:21:45.490 --> 00:21:48.730 with hundreds of substances, different substances, 00:21:49.250 --> 00:21:52.519 which are destroying the viruses, bacteria, fungi, 00:21:52.700 --> 00:21:57.319 parasites through different mechanisms. So this 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:00.579 allows the trees to survive. Of course, sometimes 00:22:00.579 --> 00:22:03.460 there are bacteria or viruses which are very 00:22:03.460 --> 00:22:05.579 aggressive and may destroy some of the trees, 00:22:05.940 --> 00:22:08.559 but they will not destroy usually all the forests 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:12.079 or all the trees. And now the incredible part 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:15.839 about this, I read a study made in England. They 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:18.700 analyzed this cocktail of substances which are 00:22:18.700 --> 00:22:23.339 protecting the birds. to various poplars because 00:22:23.339 --> 00:22:25.839 they understood, the beekeepers understood that 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:29.359 the bees they like to go to poplars, to the black 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:33.109 poplars. The Latin name is Populus nigra. And 00:22:33.109 --> 00:22:36.529 then they went to analyze the buds, the composition 00:22:36.529 --> 00:22:39.869 of these buds, like it were, let's say, 10 poplars 00:22:39.869 --> 00:22:43.049 in a row. They analyzed the composition of these 00:22:43.049 --> 00:22:46.009 buds, poplar number 1, number 2, number 3, number 00:22:46.009 --> 00:22:48.650 10. And when they analyzed the laboratory, they 00:22:48.650 --> 00:22:51.450 were surprised to see that there were differences 00:22:51.450 --> 00:22:56.089 from 3 to 3. It was not the same standard substance 00:22:56.089 --> 00:22:58.509 like pharma industry is using with the antibiotics. 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:03.680 And then the even bigger surprise was when the 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:06.519 same team of researchers, they went next year 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:10.039 to the same area, they analyzed again the composition 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:13.500 of these poplar buds, and then they saw that 00:23:13.500 --> 00:23:16.960 the same tree, which last year was having a certain 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:21.140 composition, this year, like next year, it was 00:23:21.140 --> 00:23:26.140 another composition. So the intelligence of the 00:23:26.140 --> 00:23:31.329 trees is... In order to fight an enemy, I need 00:23:31.329 --> 00:23:35.589 multiple weapons, I need multiple strategies, 00:23:36.190 --> 00:23:39.589 and I need to change these strategies every year. 00:23:40.450 --> 00:23:44.109 So the bees, which are also attacked by bacteria, 00:23:44.230 --> 00:23:47.029 virus, fungus, parasites for millions of years, 00:23:47.450 --> 00:23:49.670 Of course, they need to have also this protection. 00:23:50.269 --> 00:23:52.130 And because they have a smell, extraordinary 00:23:52.130 --> 00:23:55.069 smell with their antennae, like 100 times better 00:23:55.069 --> 00:23:58.690 than the dogs, they smell and they analyze the 00:23:58.690 --> 00:24:01.670 nature around and they found out the best sources 00:24:01.670 --> 00:24:04.589 of such substances. And then they go, they collect 00:24:04.589 --> 00:24:08.250 these resistant balsams and then they make their 00:24:08.250 --> 00:24:11.069 propolis inside the beehive with adding some 00:24:11.069 --> 00:24:14.809 beeswax inside. So propolis, if you see it from 00:24:14.809 --> 00:24:18.279 this point of view, You understand the propolis 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:21.180 is very good and has protected the bees for so 00:24:21.180 --> 00:24:24.900 many years. There are some very, very interesting 00:24:24.900 --> 00:24:28.599 research now in Minnesota, I believe, is Professor 00:24:28.599 --> 00:24:32.420 Marla Spiebach. She showed that a bee hive which 00:24:32.420 --> 00:24:36.440 has more propolis inside is healthier, has less 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:40.619 varroa. So this is another element here. And 00:24:40.619 --> 00:24:43.119 then the beekeepers during thousands of years, 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:45.559 not hundreds of, but thousands of years, They 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.380 understood that propolis protects the bees and 00:24:48.380 --> 00:24:51.220 this was the beauty they started to use for their 00:24:51.220 --> 00:24:55.299 own health. So now we have a huge industry on 00:24:55.299 --> 00:24:58.670 propolis. There are over 30 -40 different types 00:24:58.670 --> 00:25:01.829 of formulations like you have eye drops, you 00:25:01.829 --> 00:25:05.769 have capsules, tablets, nose sprays for ears, 00:25:06.009 --> 00:25:09.190 for the stomach, even intravenous you can do 00:25:09.190 --> 00:25:12.769 propolis extracts, water extract, alcoholic extract 00:25:12.769 --> 00:25:17.269 or oil extract. So practically for every anatomical 00:25:17.269 --> 00:25:19.690 part of the body we have a special preparation. 00:25:20.140 --> 00:25:25.140 And then for the good doctors who are using apitherapy, 00:25:25.259 --> 00:25:30.220 using propolis, the art is to use the right amount, 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.099 to use the right administration formula through 00:25:34.099 --> 00:25:37.400 what anatomical way. And usually there is like 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.180 a golden rule, when you use more anatomical ways, 00:25:41.900 --> 00:25:44.299 you administer the product through more anatomical 00:25:44.299 --> 00:25:48.400 ways, you have a faster healing. Let's say that 00:25:48.380 --> 00:25:51.500 A beekeeper, they have their own bees and they 00:25:51.500 --> 00:25:55.200 want to, from a practical standpoint, use propolis 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.980 or honey for their own personal health for their 00:25:58.980 --> 00:26:02.940 family. What kinds of things would it work for? 00:26:03.099 --> 00:26:04.920 And I should have asked you this about honey 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:06.960 before we moved on. We'll come back to that. 00:26:07.339 --> 00:26:10.380 But for propolis, what do I use it for? Is it 00:26:10.380 --> 00:26:13.460 for a sore throat? What's it for? Good question. 00:26:13.500 --> 00:26:17.519 Very good. So for the beekeeper, the best kind 00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:21.759 of extract of propolis is the hydroalcoholic 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:24.900 extract, which is called the tincture. And if 00:26:24.900 --> 00:26:27.039 you look all over the world, all countries, they 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.440 use propolis mainly in this form. and this is 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.119 correct because the scientists they found out 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.779 that in order to extract these polyphenols the 00:26:36.779 --> 00:26:40.039 best solvent is alcohol. My suggestion to to 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:44.660 your listeners is not to take those recipes from 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:49.279 50, 60 years ago, because it was a recipe like 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.940 something like this, like you take 20, 30 grams 00:26:51.940 --> 00:26:56.700 of raw propolis and you put in 70, 80 milliliter 00:26:56.700 --> 00:27:00.559 of alcohol and you put in a dark place and you 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:03.559 let it there stay for three weeks and then three 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.390 times per day you... do this shaking okay so 00:27:07.390 --> 00:27:11.250 this is the old old system now there are modern 00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:14.069 methods to get the extraction of properties not 00:27:14.069 --> 00:27:17.710 in three weeks but in one day even in one hour 00:27:17.710 --> 00:27:21.910 so these methods are based on the concept of 00:27:21.910 --> 00:27:25.289 like the question funny question is in that old 00:27:25.289 --> 00:27:28.309 books it was written three times per day you 00:27:28.309 --> 00:27:30.970 should shake the solution and my question is 00:27:30.970 --> 00:27:34.009 when i'm giving lectures is why only three times 00:27:34.009 --> 00:27:38.470 per day Why not 10 times per day? Why not 100 00:27:38.470 --> 00:27:40.910 times per day? Why not 1 ,000 times per day? 00:27:41.210 --> 00:27:44.089 Why not to use a machine which makes non -stop 00:27:44.089 --> 00:27:48.170 this movement? When you combine these kind of 00:27:48.170 --> 00:27:50.450 machines which are moving non -stop the solution, 00:27:50.990 --> 00:27:53.029 of course, the contact between alcohol and properties 00:27:53.029 --> 00:27:55.990 will be better, instruction is better. Now there 00:27:55.990 --> 00:27:59.069 is another modern method, a very good one, faster 00:27:59.069 --> 00:28:03.200 than this one, which I'm telling you. is there 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:08.319 are devices called ultrasonicators. The ultrasonicators 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:12.019 are devices where you have like a water bath 00:28:12.019 --> 00:28:16.240 like a container and below here is the electrical 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:20.279 part which heats the solution. You set the heating 00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.400 how much you want to be the solution heated and 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:25.880 then you can have also activate with the button 00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:30.329 the ultrasounds. So the ultra sounds are making 00:28:30.329 --> 00:28:34.089 this movement of the molecules and the heat also 00:28:34.089 --> 00:28:37.269 is the Brownian movement at the molecular level. 00:28:37.329 --> 00:28:39.450 It's also much, much faster like this because 00:28:39.450 --> 00:28:41.910 of the heat. So with this method, you can get 00:28:41.910 --> 00:28:44.049 an extraction of propolis maybe in one hour. 00:28:44.609 --> 00:28:47.450 And when you know that the extraction is finished, 00:28:48.029 --> 00:28:52.009 when you see that the solution has the same color, 00:28:52.509 --> 00:28:55.420 it doesn't change the color. like before was 00:28:55.420 --> 00:28:57.940 alcohol was transparent propolis was here and 00:28:57.940 --> 00:29:01.099 here so when the solution the color is constant 00:29:01.099 --> 00:29:04.339 and also when the taste of the solution is constant 00:29:04.339 --> 00:29:06.779 it's normally it's finished the the extraction 00:29:06.779 --> 00:29:11.019 yeah okay so you get this tincture from from 00:29:11.019 --> 00:29:15.519 this from this water bath and then There are 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.059 several situations here. So first of all, it 00:29:19.059 --> 00:29:22.579 depends on who is taking the propolis and is 00:29:22.579 --> 00:29:25.359 there to take it. If it's a strong beekeeper, 00:29:25.940 --> 00:29:29.960 has not special diseases, it's no problem to 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.000 take the tincture in some honey. Let's say 10 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.920 drops of propolis tincture in a teaspoon of honey 00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:39.519 and then prepare separately some tea and then 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:43.440 they can take it directly. If they want to treat 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.319 the child or the woman, let's say the woman is 00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:50.000 pregnant or somebody old in the family, the alcohol 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.680 from the tincture may be too strong. There are 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.200 no studies, they say that alcohol in any amount 00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:58.579 is not good for the body. In this situation, 00:29:59.180 --> 00:30:02.019 We have the propolis tincture, like I have here 00:30:02.019 --> 00:30:06.299 this propolis tincture. And then I will put drops, 00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:09.119 one drop here, one drop here, one drop here, 00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.519 one drop here. So small amounts on a sterile 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.920 plate. And then I wait for the alcohol to evaporate. 00:30:16.180 --> 00:30:18.839 So once the alcohol evaporates, and this is very 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:21.740 simple, I don't need a special laboratory, then 00:30:21.740 --> 00:30:25.549 I can get this. extract if you say like it's 00:30:25.549 --> 00:30:29.170 called soft propolis extract or some honey some 00:30:29.170 --> 00:30:32.009 crystallized honey or you know a piece of bread 00:30:32.009 --> 00:30:34.869 or some more cooked rice and then you can use 00:30:34.869 --> 00:30:39.269 it internally. This is the easiest way to do 00:30:39.269 --> 00:30:42.609 it but there are other ways to do it if there 00:30:42.609 --> 00:30:45.569 are people for example in the family somebody 00:30:45.569 --> 00:30:48.950 who smokes a lot somebody who has the the skin 00:30:48.950 --> 00:30:53.640 is very dry they have less fats in the body the 00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:58.059 alcohol tincture will be a bad idea. But if you 00:30:58.059 --> 00:31:01.980 make the propolis not tincture, you do not use 00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:06.380 the alcohol as a solvent, but you use oil, like 00:31:06.380 --> 00:31:10.440 olive oil, sunflower oil, pumpkin oil, argan 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.200 oil, any oil which is cold pressed, then you 00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:18.339 get an oil propolis extract. So this one you 00:31:18.339 --> 00:31:22.220 can use in the nose. You can use in any surfaces 00:31:22.220 --> 00:31:25.920 where the alcohol is not recommended, like genital 00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:28.319 area, for example, or you can make preparations 00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:32.700 in the form of suppositories or ovules. There 00:31:32.700 --> 00:31:36.960 are hundreds of possible applications here. And 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.539 now to give you in what kind of diseases. The 00:31:40.539 --> 00:31:44.779 list is huge, Eric. It's huge. So I research 00:31:44.779 --> 00:31:46.960 the literature, scientific literature, all up 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.900 in Mondial Congresses, all the books in over 00:31:49.900 --> 00:31:54.099 60 countries where I visited. And if you take, 00:31:54.259 --> 00:31:58.279 it's like at least 500 diseases. If you take 00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:03.559 just one thing, properties has about 70 useful 00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:07.559 properties. And let's say we take only antioxidant. 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.519 or you take only anti -inflammatory, then if 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:17.980 you remember on the names of diseases, all diseases 00:32:17.980 --> 00:32:21.599 which have as a word the last letters of the 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:28.440 disease is itis, like conjunctivitis, rhinitis, 00:32:28.940 --> 00:32:33.799 glossitis, otitis, esophagitis, pharyngitis, 00:32:34.099 --> 00:32:37.500 gastritis. whatever enteritis and so on, all 00:32:37.500 --> 00:32:41.420 ITs, all from inflammations. And Propolis is 00:32:41.420 --> 00:32:45.460 excellent as anti -inflammatory agent. Why? Because 00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:49.859 Propolis attacks simultaneously many causes which 00:32:49.859 --> 00:32:53.299 create inflammation. So if the inflammation is 00:32:53.299 --> 00:32:56.880 caused like fire, like free radicals, like smoking 00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:01.240 or heat or a burn, propolis blocks very quickly 00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.980 the free radicals. There are hundreds of studies 00:33:03.980 --> 00:33:07.000 which says that propolis is antioxidant because 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.779 it blocks the free radicals. Then many other 00:33:09.779 --> 00:33:12.920 inflammations are given by viruses and propolis 00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.200 is antiviral. Other inflammations are given by 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:18.880 bacteria. Propolis is antibacterial. Other are 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.940 given by fungi. propolis is anti -mycotic, anti 00:33:21.940 --> 00:33:25.559 -fungal, or it's parasites, malaria, and so on 00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:28.200 and so on, giardia, propolis is also anti -parasitic. 00:33:28.740 --> 00:33:32.900 So when you have this combination of antioxidant 00:33:32.900 --> 00:33:35.759 plus antiviral, antibacterial, anti -mycotic, 00:33:35.900 --> 00:33:39.680 anti -parasitic, practically at least 80 % of 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.440 the inflammations you can reduce, you can eliminate 00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.619 them. The only other big cause of inflammation 00:33:45.619 --> 00:33:49.579 is trauma. When I have a trauma, a heat, bone 00:33:49.579 --> 00:33:52.940 fracture, whatever, there are cells which are 00:33:52.940 --> 00:33:56.220 destroyed. And then in this situation, propolis 00:33:56.220 --> 00:33:58.759 helps also, but through other very interesting 00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.519 mechanisms. When you have dead cells in a certain 00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.880 area, like after bee stings, for example, there 00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.900 are special cells here under the skin or in the 00:34:07.900 --> 00:34:12.000 tissue. which needs to clean the area. They need 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:16.159 practically to eat the dead cells or the bacteria 00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:18.579 as they are there. And these cells are called 00:34:18.579 --> 00:34:22.099 macrophages and some of them are also neutrophils 00:34:22.099 --> 00:34:24.380 or dendritic cells. But macrophages are the most 00:34:24.380 --> 00:34:27.340 important. Now, if you give propolis to this 00:34:27.340 --> 00:34:31.010 area, but also you... tell the patient to swallow 00:34:31.010 --> 00:34:35.070 propolis or to inhale propolis in form of solutions 00:34:35.070 --> 00:34:40.150 for nebulization or aerosols. Then these macrophages 00:34:40.150 --> 00:34:45.170 get more power and then they clean faster the 00:34:45.170 --> 00:34:48.510 area of dead cells and cleaning faster that area. 00:34:48.869 --> 00:34:51.610 This is wonderful because the risk to get infection 00:34:51.610 --> 00:34:55.269 there will decrease too. So the healing time 00:34:55.269 --> 00:34:58.550 will decrease too. We can speak on propolis Eric, 00:34:58.889 --> 00:35:02.389 one week is not finished. I can tell any of these 00:35:02.389 --> 00:35:05.570 topics we could speak on for 10 hours and so 00:35:05.570 --> 00:35:09.289 we'll try to, listeners, we will try to keep 00:35:09.289 --> 00:35:12.989 things as practical as we can and we hope to 00:35:12.989 --> 00:35:16.329 at least touch on besides honey and propolis, 00:35:16.570 --> 00:35:20.250 royal jelly, wax, beehive air, be venom, definitely, 00:35:20.769 --> 00:35:25.010 be bread, be pollen. Let's Dr. Stefan. Let's 00:35:25.010 --> 00:35:27.530 jump back to honey for just a minute. How should 00:35:27.530 --> 00:35:31.610 I use honey? Medicinally and by the way, I recently 00:35:31.610 --> 00:35:35.349 had experience using it on a burn Why don't you 00:35:35.349 --> 00:35:37.769 tell us about that and some other things to use 00:35:37.769 --> 00:35:45.039 it for? Thanks again to Dr. Stefan Stangichu 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:48.280 in part two. We'll dive deep into treating burns 00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.679 with honey, bee venom therapy, and a whole bunch 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.400 more. Until then, be sure to follow, subscribe, 00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:56.420 and tell your friends about Bee Love Beekeeping 00:35:56.420 --> 00:35:59.440 presented by Man Lake. And a shout out to Vita 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.739 Bee Health for their support. 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