in a world brimming with complexity few creatures
embody harmony like the honeybee with tireless
precision she dances from bloom to bloom each
motion guided by millennia upon millennia of
instinct each act in service to the whole and
then There are the beekeepers, watchful stewards
of this ancient symbiosis. Part agriscientist,
part poet, they move along their hives with the
efficiency of mow, levy and curly, tending to
the bees' needs as best they can comprehend,
and with the infrequency of a waterfall in the
Sahara, sometimes running off flapping and flailing
like a penguin on a hot sidewalk. This is their
journey. One of the best things about beekeeping
is the community. Beekeepers are always willing
to help each other, share information, and even
to step up when needed. And today I'll be having
a conversation with a beekeeper in Utah that's
learning that lesson in a big way. First just
one brief new amazing thing about honeybees.
Research published in the journal Biology Letters
shows that bees possess a sophisticated sense
of time, yes time, and it makes perfect sense
as bees must carefully manage their time while
foraging to maximize rewards and minimize the
costs of energy and time in returning to the
nest. The results of the research help us better
appreciate that bees are quote Not simple machines
essentially driven by instinct, but rather complex
animals with inner lives that have unique experiences.
In fact, according to the research, they have
complex cognition with flexibility in learning,
memory, and behavior. Honey bees never cease
to amaze. Hey, I'd like to welcome to the show
today Really special guest someone that I've
been wanting to talk to here for a couple days
and that is Trenton Frazier And he's coming to
us. He's beekeeper in Utah Trenton. How are you
today? I've been better doing okay. That's probably
the worst question I've ever asked somebody in
your shoes Because this has not been a fun week
for you. And you know what? I want to just jump
right into it Would you give us one minute just
one minute of? what kind of a beekeeping operation
that you have, and then tell us about the phone
call you got Sunday morning and let's go from
there. Okay. All right. Well, the operation that
we had is of course commercial. It's large scale,
but I feel like we do it a little differently.
I focus really on honey and I'm going to find
a way to talk about honey even with this topic.
You watch. And it's been about the quality of
honey. We used to keep bees in our backyard and
then we kept them in our shed and then it moved
to the shop and the shop and the driveway and
then the whole street. We were just getting big
and had to move out. So we moved into this, our
warehouse facility about 15 years ago. It's a
multi -generational operation. My father, he
kept bees with his grandfather and that went
back five generations. It's been a hobby thing,
but we really turned it back into a commercial
business about 15 years ago under the name Beehive
State Honey. But we didn't want to just move
into the typical commercial space where we are
processing the honey, selling it off to pay for
operating expenses and things like that. My father
got to the age of retirement and wanted to continue
to do something of value. And since beekeeping
was a hobby, word my father obviously does not
know the meaning, the definition of 60 hour a
week hobby. Well, it's a good way to keep busy.
And it really feels good when you are doing something
of a farming type of type of nature. And so we
really hit that pretty hard at first. realizing
that there's a lot about beekeeping that we did
not know and grew the business to the point it
is today. But then again, did not want to change
the nature of honey. I noticed early on that
there was a difference between our backyard honey
and commercial honey, historic honey, and wanted
to preserve that natural, organic, whatever it
was that didn't fully understand, but came to
quickly realize had to do with heating, filtration,
and things like that. So we yanked all of the
heating elements, put away all of the filters
and the strainers. We don't even strain our honey.
And started to change. And it took about 10 to
15 years to develop something that is actually
quite the antithesis of what honey product is.
Most beekeepers would like a translucent, clear,
liquid, nice amber honey. I want an opaque, creamed,
not amber and doesn't matter the color. I think
honey varies just like people do in personality
and color and flavor. That's natural. And you
have to embrace those things. And that's what
we did. That's what we found to be is really
kind of a unique thing. And so we coined the
phrase cold extracted honey, because raw wasn't
really covering all the bases. Yes, raw means
that it's not cooked, but raw can be everything
from 115 degrees to cold. And I just didn't think
that that was a fair comparison. even if you're
warming it, you're still adding some heat and
I finally worked it down to the definition that
was human integrity or human interaction. So
I figured if we just cut that out, there is no
heating element involved, plus we were to store
it in some sort of an acid proof container, then
we could preserve that beautiful flavor and that
texture that I was familiar with all growing
up. So for me, raw backyard honey was just natural.
That was part of my life and I just didn't want
to compromise that but Fortunately in the process
we were able to learn and define a lot more science
and chemistry behind honey and how it crystallizes
get down into the the molecules and how how the
chemicals work out and separate and how they
can actually cream and And so we develop we just
keep developing that until we get a nice good
opaque creamed kind of like peanut butter Honey
that is a wide variety of multi floral textures
and just give it more of a sophisticated flavor
and every little trick that we learn we implement
it and Really had something that the community
and our customers are really starting to just
appreciate and love so I could you could say
that developed something that really was meaningful
and Every day I'd get up and find that I had
purpose. I was starting to do some more value
-added products like honey fizz soda, naturally
carbonated, not mead, but more like kombucha
or honeycomb. Kombucha is actually the label
we gave that. And things like that, just a lot
of meaning, a lot of value. One morning, rudely
get woken up, 4 a .m. Looks like a sales call
or something. I don't even know why I answered
it, but something told me to answer it. 4 .30
in the morning. I just want to give people perspective.
This is just three days ago, right? Yeah, Sunday
morning. I never answer my phone call in the
morning. Ever. I put it on silent or whatever,
but it was just brrrr -rung and, uh, wife's tapping
me. Turn your phone off. and I answered it and
it looked like a weird, it was a restricted number.
So again, another reason why not to answer it.
But I just felt like what's going on here, answered
it. And then I hear this bleep. I'm like, oh
brother, this is just a marketing call. And by
now it was dispatch and they said, hey, is this
the owners of Beehive State? What's going on?
Oh, we're reporting a fire. And what, what do
you mean? Oh shoot. Someone called in a fire
and now I'm awake and I'm asking what's going
on. There's a fire Do we know how big it is?
Where is it? Is it is it in the building and?
says yes, there's a there's been a fire reported
and I said where and she's What side of the building
is it on and she just said the whole thing? so
that is pretty much where My final blanked out
like Couldn't wrap my mind around that. It's
really hard to comprehend that everything you
have worked for and put together for the last
decade plus is just up in smoke, gone. You live,
what, 10, 15 minutes from there? It's about,
well, it used to be a 15 minute commute. Now
it's 20, 25. There's been a lot of development
around us. Well, without traffic at 430 in the
morning, hopefully you got there quick. What
did you see when you arrived? Couldn't even get
there. Policemen were not letting cars down the
road, but you could see the flames from our driveway.
There were videos coming in on social media showing
this humongous flame at night all the way across
the valley. It was going way up into the sky.
So that right there gave something for us to
just sob over the entire way down. Arriving,
we had to get past the security. They let us
through once they knew I was the owner. I get
right up to the gate and just start talking with
the fire marshals, just seeing all of the flames
and the smoke and the smell. I can hardly even
recall everything. It was just so So overwhelming
that I guess a lot of details have kind of left
me now I realize I'm having a hard time even
remembering those first hours but I do know that
there was a lot of talking with police and the
fire chief and We were beginning to bring in
hives Beehives from our yards. We have more than
50 locations run over a thousand between thousand
to fifteen hundred colonies Among those, we have
our yard stretched to 100 miles from Bountiful
down to North Juab County out to Price, mostly
throughout Utah County. And we have these yards
every mile, two miles separated so that we can
have the bees foraging without being oversaturated.
But here in the fall, we're starting to bring
them back. And so we had more than 100 colonies
lined up right down one of the buildings. that
were separated by a distance. They were saved
by the fire department because when the firefighters
first got there, they had to park their trucks
and their ladders in between these rows of beehives.
And they're stretching their hoses all through
the property and try not to knock over any beehives.
And the chief firefighter is actually a beekeeper.
He knew my father. He had spoken with us before.
He's like, yeah, your father's a great guy. And
we showed up and I saw those bees. It was because
of that that he zeroed in and he focused on those
bees. They got a ladder up over one of the adjacent
buildings on a neighboring property and they
just started spraying the walls. And because
of that, there were maybe two or three hives
that got toasted. But they were going along and
opening lids and checking and spraying down the
building, which was just boiling over. I mean,
the flames were about They were 50, 60 feet in
the air by the melting ingots of copper. It appears
that the flame got well over 2 ,000 degrees,
2 ,200 degrees. And all of our wax, all of our
honey, all of, I mean, the whole building plus
was up in flames. And they're these firefighters,
these brave, brave firefighters are saving the
bees. I didn't hear about any of them getting
stung. But some of the news articles reported
that the firefighters were severely stung and
fighting the flames. I'll tell you what, these
guys were so proud of those stings if that was
the case. I didn't hear it from them. They're
just like, yep, we saved your bees. And so I
was really grateful, really grateful for that
and for those heroes that stepped in and took
care of that. But really, there wasn't a lot
they could do about the flames. Everything has
just been reduced to rubble. Tell me print and
what all was inside that building why a rough
estimate that the building was about 37 ,000
37 ,000 square feet we had three parts of the
building and We didn't we didn't need all of
it We repurposed the building when we first purchased
a prop property and it came with these buildings
But we had a few very key portions. One was the
middle section. That was our wood shop where
we built and fixed B frames the portion that
was north where we had our wax rendering and
our extraction center as well as our bottling
room. We had all of our palletized wax or wax
renderings or wax blocks and then our prefab
which is to be melted down all there including
our entire harvest which is in drums so that's
about 20 drums of honey this year which is Kind
of a low yield, but we lost so many bees last
year that we weren't able to get as much of a
honey yield this year. It's a great year this
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had our stockroom. And the stockroom had a collection
of residuals of honey harvests over the years.
There were more than 40 or 45 pallets of honey,
including some barrels right there that we would
sell throughout the year and then restock and
sell. So it was always kind of growing. I mean,
for the first 10 years we were there, we weren't
really selling a lot of honey. We weren't well
known. So we had some honey in there that was
several years old, but all bottled in glass in
boxes on pallets. And honey has no shelf life
and it never even degraded in color. Over 10
years, there was no change in hue or color. You
can't tell the difference between those jars
and the jars that we just harvested. And then
there were the shop section where we repaired
boxes and And then there were other places where
we just stored. Everything else was for storage
areas, just for whatever purposes we needed.
But it was everything, our whole operation. I
just realized today that we lost our bee nets.
Every step I take through the rubble, I remember
something else that we no longer have. And that's
bad because we no longer have our ability to
migrate. I could get into some of the really
neat things that people have done to step in
to make that short, just needed to get some bee
nets for the next stage, which is migrating the
bees that we have, because all our bees have
survived, so we've got to keep them going, but
we just don't have the resources and the materials
to do so. It's all gone. We have our truck and
forklift. So we can palletize our bees and bring
them in, but we need to start bringing them in
from all of our locations. And once they're in,
now what do we do with them? We don't have our
hanger where we actually will keep the bees inside
a climatized environment so that they can survive
cold winters. Here in Utah, it can get down below
freezing, and that's harsh on the bees, especially
in the bee boxes. It's a typical Langstroth setup.
So unless we're migrating the bees to California
we could lose a lot of bees to cold and So now
we have to start investing into getting some
insulation blankets and things to wrap the hives
Well, that's a good concept but try wrapping
a thousand hives Yeah, and you can still lose
them. Hey on a personal note print into you and
your family. Let me just say I'm I'm so sorry
that this horrible thing happened to you. I can't
imagine how devastating that must be. These sorts
of things are very emotional. It's not just the
business and the money lost, right? There's such
an emotional connection when that's your family
and your family business and it's what you do
all day every day. And so from an emotional standpoint,
how are you and your family getting along now?
Mostly worried about my father. He's 81 now we
began the business at his retirement of 65 And
we got to a place to where he was just really
comfortable and in routine He had a little corner
that he loved to go and repair frames at that's
that's gone And so the last few days he has been
taking the role of just driving and doing errands
we need Anything he's going to the store. He's
going to the shop to get tires fixed and or buying
materials and we really haven't gotten into a
lot of needs of materials. We're trying to gather
things. People have been donating things. I've
been overwhelmed with the amazing generosity
and outreach of people all around that didn't
even know existed before. So making friends,
but it's been hard on him for us, the rest of
our family. We're doing Fairly well, I mean better
now than I thought I would be here it was really
emotionally devastating and it was a wreck and
I've gone through a lot of those things, but
it's it's very very interesting when you are
forced to begin from the ashes how resilient
the the mind and the heart is you have no choice
so You start to quickly look forward to the future
and to try to put together some plans. And as
much as you have lost an identity or a lifestyle
or a routine, you quickly pick up on what is
to come. And that's started, I mean, I'm really
mostly spending my days on the phone and doing
emails, dealing with contractors, electricians,
and excavators. trying to work out insurances
and figure out if there's anything that we can,
you know, just trying to get the whole thing
picked up and rolling. So I almost feel like
I haven't really had time to sit and grieve much.
But I would say that I've had those moments where
I just had no choice when it gets quiet and there's
nothing to do. There's no one to talk to. And
suddenly it's now time to sleep. That's where
you really know where you're at I'm glad you
mentioned the generosity of people Because one
of your friends set up a GoFundMe page And that's
one of the reasons I wanted you on here was to
let people out there know about the GoFundMe
that there is so that anybody whether you're
in Utah or Montana or New York or New Zealand
or whatever else if you want to help out a fellow
beekeeper I'll put a link to that GoFundMe down
in the show notes. This isn't something that
Printen posted or did. It's the community wanting
to step up and do it for them and we can all
step up and help. Do you have any idea is the
insurance company going to be able to cover much
of this for you? Well probably to make it short
and for lack of better explained words we're
under insured. A quick explanation would be beekeeping
is not a very lucrative business model as it
is. You can ask any commercial beekeeper. In
fact, one of the ingeniouses of beekeeping is
that we can figure out how to make raw materials
work out of nothing and get the operation to
float and make it pay. And so when it comes to
insurance, you're trying to cover your basic
needs. Now we inherited a property or rather
when we first purchased the property and inherited
the buildings that are part of it, it was a lot
larger than what we really needed. So I would
say that we really operated our basic operations
out of maybe 60%, which if we were strategic,
we could reduce down to maybe 45 or 50%. of the
actual place. And to go over the insurance and
cover all of the building loss, and the only
reason I say this is because I've worked this
out a lot with the insurance, but it's not gonna
cover. In fact, it doesn't even cover close to
even half. And so we were insured and most of
that was liability. So that was really important
for us to get Make sure you have general liability
that if there's any other damages or injuries
to somebody else or anything that we're covered,
of course. But then when it comes to beekeepers,
we kind of have a tendency to, and not just beekeepers,
but everyone has a tendency to undervalue themselves
and to say, look, what is the worst case scenario
and how could we survive through it? Let's set
the bar there because we really don't have the
money to pay for this level of insurance for
potential damages. And so that's really the reality
of what I'm sitting at now. I'm looking in saying,
okay, we're now reduced to get whatever money
the insurance can give us and go from there.
And that is the very basics. That's the baseline.
And it neglected a lot of things. For one, disaster
cleanup could just swallow that all completely.
And we had about 37 ,000 square feet, as I mentioned,
of building space. So all that roofline and all
that debris and all that trash, I can't get in
there with a backhoe and a trailer and take care
of that and be done anytime soon. In order for
us to get back up on our feet, we need to have
that cleared out in within a couple of months,
a month or two, that's got to be cleaned up.
starting to look at contractors and excavators
and things that can do that. And that quickly
just, I mean, those prices, no one considers
that as part of the, well, you should. And I
think I'm being pretty open and transparent here.
I don't think most people would want to divulge,
but I really feel like if there are other beekeeping
operations out there, that what I have learned
over the last few days, they really would want
to listen to and take in some advice because
if anything were to happen, you know, I mean,
you are dealing with wax, you are dealing with
smokers. That's what I hear a lot of the time
people are asking or speculating, did you forget
to put out your smoker or were you melting wax?
And actually, no. Investigation is inconclusive
as to what caused the fire. However, the Area
of origin that they found the fire in there were
there was not an area where we use any kind of
flame There's no wax stored there. There's no
honey stored there. We don't even have any power
tools in that area that would cause That kind
of friction that was actually a corner of the
room where we stapled together frames with a
pneumatic stapler So it's just an air hose What
caused the fire right there in that corner is
just a mystery to me according to surveillance
and everyone's alibi, I guess if you say their
story, there wasn't anyone in that shop for three
days. The last anyone had been in there, I had
been in there Friday, no one came in Saturday.
And the last that anyone had worked in that corner
doing stapling or framing was Wednesday. So you
would have had to either have something that
was smoldering for three four days to finally
go up Sunday morning or you have someone who
sneaks in and they didn't rule out Larson but
someone really would have had to you know come
in through the back gate jump the fence crawl
in there and do something and either way it's
very unexplained. The need to clean up a mess
is included in what you get from insurance. So
if you're going to use part of that money to
pay for cleanup, you have that much less money
to pay for like rebuild. So there really is no
money for rebuild. Along with that was something,
and I'm not an insurance expert, and maybe some
people are better informed by their agent, but
there's something called loss potential. which
is the income or income loss potential that you
had for the following year or up to a year after
the disaster. So how are you going to pay for
employees? How do you usually make your money
and are you going to now be able to do that?
Beekeeping is half pollinating and fulfilling
contracts. The other half is honey sales. So
all of the other associates and colleagues that
I have know of in the beekeeping field are producing
honey and selling that all off at bulk to packers
so that they can pay for the other half of their
operational expenses. And both of these together
don't amount to much of a living. It mainly pays
up the operation expenses. And if you're really
good at cutting corners and you're doing everything
yourself, then you're gonna be taking that money
for yourself. So that's one of the reasons I
think why beekeepers all have to be really hard
workers is because we have to make things work
ourselves in order to keep the business model
going. By all intents and purposes, having something
like this happen, there's really no reason for
me not to close up shop and say, look, I'm gonna
go do something else besides beekeeping. This
is not something that we can recover from. I
mean, if I'm sane, that's what I would be saying,
but I can't imagine doing anything else. I have
employees, I have foremen and others who rely
on this as their full -time living and their
income. I have too much of a community and too
many customers who have grown to love our product
and our business. Even if I didn't want to do
it anymore, we have too much of intellectual
asset properties and customers and value there,
our business name and our logo and just being
known in the community to just let it go. I would
sell it to somebody else who wants to try. But
beekeeping has been in our family for five generations
and I can't be the one to just let that end.
It's not the only thing, but it's one thing that
keeps reminding me that hey there's purpose in
this. I appreciate you sharing all of that so
much. I know it's hard and hopefully it's a little
bit therapeutic talking about it just a little
bit and I know there's people out there that
are going to want to step up and help. If there's
any other thing else that you can think of that
people can do to help you know get with me on
that we'll post it on social media or wherever.
But let's end up the interview today with just,
I can tell how much you love beekeeping. This
isn't just a responsibility that you have to
keep doing it. This is something that you must
really love and it's genetic for you now. This
has been passed down all these generations. Give
me an idea on a perfect beekeeping day. Maybe
it was last summer sometime. What's your day
like? What do you love about it? That is a very
good question. I have grown to love the whole,
when you get to pick up a subject and learn about
it, you find out that there's far more to it
than you ever thought possible. Take the simplest
concept, in this case bees, and bees are the
producers of more than six products. No other
insect on the planet produces more than one for
human consumption. Bees produce six, including
wax and honey and propolis, which are the main
big three. Each one of those is a very deep topic.
You could get into the nutritional benefits and
all the practical uses for these products and
how they are good for health or good for value
barter trade to prepare against disaster. And
they're just, they're topics that lead to so
many other things. And then learning about bees
and getting to know bees, we're actually beginning
to do a lot more with bee therapy, where the
environment around bees is healing and cleansing.
And the last year of my life has actually been
developing a program around that, including making
a honey fizz soda, like honey kombucha. It just
doesn't end. So for me, the warehouse was more
than just a turnkey operation. It was a playground.
It was a sandbox. It was the opportunity to explore
and build. The last thing that I built in that
shop before it closed down was a little contraption
that you could put against the entrance and the
bees would come and fly up into a jar so that
you could unscrew that and put it into a little
container. that people could take away because
I would sell bees to people who wanted to buy
bees, just a few bees. I sell it to them as pets,
but what they use them for is bee venom therapy.
They have Lyme's disease, which bee sting therapy
has proven to relieve. By proven I mean there
is a chemical in honey in the bee apatocin called
melaton Which is the primary? compound for dealing
with the bacteria infection that is in the Lyme's
disease and just kills and breaks down that shell
on that bacteria and it just relieves the symptoms
these customers are either taking a Beasting
every other day for only three seconds up to
30 bee stings a day and leaving those stingers
in there for up to 30 minutes and finding incredible
relief to the point to where the bee sting isn't
anything compared to the symptoms. I mean, they're
going to those extents to relieve those symptoms.
So now I'm feeling like this is even more than
just what bees are supposed to be. And for me,
it is a journey of life. I could begin on a study
of just water alone. and learning about distilled
water and end up learning about space in the
universe. Any topic that you get started on,
no matter how small it is, it's so complex that
it leaves me from beekeeping into gardening,
regenerative gardening, and creating nutrient
dense foods to therapy and medicine. It does
not end. On the one end where we are working
with private landowners who want to host our
bees and love the barter trade that we have going
with them and the connections that we have with
so many friends and colleagues to just our personal
exploration with our interests in life, there
is just an endless topic. And so for me, it's
my day -to -day life is about exploration, about
learning and about personal development. And
I wish that everybody could have that freedom
to do what they want, the kind of work that they
want to do, to get up every day and say, this
is the career that I have chosen. I'm not going
to a job that pays, but I hate, and I can't wait
until Friday. My least favorite day of the week
is Saturday. And my favorite day of the week
is Monday. And I'm saying that with absolute
sincerity and truth. In fact, I can't tell you
how many times I'm like, ah, Saturday night and
the week is over. I'm just, you know, because
we close up our shop on Sunday and we don't go
in. We don't allow anyone to open the gate. We
take that day to rest. And then come Monday morning,
it's like, yeah, I got to get back on that project
because I'm focused. I was focused on something
I did want to mention. And I'd be remiss not
to mention a couple of things that came out of
this. There have been an incredible outpouring
of generosity. But I did want to mention a couple
of scenarios, a couple of examples, if that was
OK. The first one was us not being able to winter,
overwinter, and house our bees the way we typically
do. There was an outreach of some beekeeper in
California. who has yards where they've invited
us to be able to send our bees so that they can
be down there for the winter. This is a huge
blessing and a big potential help for us because
not only are the bees kind of in our hair now
where we're trying to clean up, we've got thousands
of bees all over the place. In fact, You know,
on a warm day, we get tens of thousands of bees
all over the ash and rubble sitting there licking
up the honey. And I'm thinking, well, great,
that's one way to reclaim all the honey. But
what kind of toxins are they bringing back to
the hive? And it's going to snow. We have somebody
who has just said, hey, we want to help. We'll
let you we'll open up a yard and have you bring
your bees down here and you can feed them down
here and and they'll be they'll be able to you'll
be protected there and that is just one miracle.
The other one was I got a call from a gentleman
who saw the news report and immediately called
us and said that he was a beekeeper. He had been
a beekeeper with his father and he had recently
retired and he wanted to just help us out and
donate his equipment and that was just me just
almost just got overwhelmed with the emotion
there just because thinking about it he and I
went and I met him one of the most sincere generous
people who I've ever talked to and so on the
one hand this tragedy has left us devastated
but on the other hand it has opened up a pathway
to meeting people and creating connections that
are incredible. and wildly supportive and comforting.
So I just wanted to mention a couple of things.
Those are only two. We've had dozens of incredible
things that I could go over. Whenever you have
to rise from the ashes, there are always new
windows and opportunities that open to make that
happen. And you can't work it out in your mind,
but it always comes. And I would encourage people
to really honestly, let's make it real. Look
at your insurance. Make sure you not only have
the coverage that you're going to need for equipment
and for buildings, but make sure your agent is
explaining to you other options. For example,
income loss potential and Especially on your
large pieces of equipment because there's there's
a material loss and then there's building coverage
and then there's general liability and Things
like that. Yeah, it's a good lesson, you know
really check and make sure everything's being
done, right? Well print and I appreciate your
fantastic attitude so much It's a great example
for all of us and from the beekeeping community
and from my family our love and support to you
and your family I know you're gonna bounce back
right on your feet and be going going forward
fantastic so keep it up my friend. Thanks again
we'll talk soon. Okay. Thanks for joining us
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