WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:06.660 in a world brimming with complexity few creatures 00:00:06.660 --> 00:00:12.839 embody harmony like the honeybee with tireless 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:17.699 precision she dances from bloom to bloom each 00:00:17.699 --> 00:00:22.399 motion guided by millennia upon millennia of 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:28.800 instinct each act in service to the whole and 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:34.560 then There are the beekeepers, watchful stewards 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:40.479 of this ancient symbiosis. Part agriscientist, 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:45.460 part poet, they move along their hives with the 00:00:45.460 --> 00:00:50.560 efficiency of mow, levy and curly, tending to 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:54.219 the bee's needs as best they can comprehend, 00:00:54.859 --> 00:00:59.740 and with the infrequency of a waterfall in the 00:00:59.740 --> 00:01:05.599 Sahara, sometimes running off flapping and flailing 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:12.140 like a penguin on a hot sidewalk. This is their 00:01:12.140 --> 00:01:23.719 journey. Welcome, welcome to Be Love Beekeeping 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:26.260 presented by our great friends over at Man Lake. 00:01:26.510 --> 00:01:28.629 I think you're going to love the show today as 00:01:28.629 --> 00:01:30.909 we'll have a conversation with Chuck Cutick. 00:01:31.430 --> 00:01:34.510 He's a 50 -year commercial beekeeper in New York. 00:01:34.909 --> 00:01:37.609 We discuss everything from how to make money 00:01:37.609 --> 00:01:40.950 in beekeeping, to flowers that are poisonous 00:01:40.950 --> 00:01:45.269 for bees, to bears, addiction, and a wild and 00:01:45.269 --> 00:01:48.709 crazy story that involves lightning. You know 00:01:48.709 --> 00:01:50.890 what? Today I'm in the mood to cut the fluff. 00:01:50.989 --> 00:01:58.650 Let's just get right into it. Here's Chuck. This 00:01:58.650 --> 00:02:01.510 is gonna be so fun today. We have Chuck Cutick 00:02:01.510 --> 00:02:04.549 with us coming to us from New York. How are you 00:02:04.549 --> 00:02:07.549 Chuck? I'm great Eric and thanks for inviting 00:02:07.549 --> 00:02:10.189 me to do this that it sounds like it's gonna 00:02:10.189 --> 00:02:14.030 be fun Well, I hope so and the very first thing 00:02:14.030 --> 00:02:16.870 for those that are watching the video version 00:02:16.870 --> 00:02:20.469 of this Your glasses you told the truth. They 00:02:20.469 --> 00:02:22.650 are getting lighter and lighter all the time 00:02:23.210 --> 00:02:26.969 They started super dark when we first got on 00:02:26.969 --> 00:02:29.710 those photochromatic or whatever they call that. 00:02:29.729 --> 00:02:32.870 Yeah, I was out in the bright sun. What were 00:02:32.870 --> 00:02:36.830 you doing this morning? Oh, this morning, we 00:02:36.830 --> 00:02:39.889 filled a tote, brought it up to where we pack 00:02:39.889 --> 00:02:42.310 honey for and they're doing some raw honey up 00:02:42.310 --> 00:02:45.169 there. So we're pumping it over into our tanks 00:02:45.169 --> 00:02:47.530 and going to do some raw honey up there today. 00:02:48.289 --> 00:02:52.419 So and that's about it for this morning. So you've 00:02:52.419 --> 00:02:56.500 been a beekeeper for nearly 50 years Congratulations. 00:02:56.819 --> 00:03:00.979 Yeah, it makes me old now means you're not allergic 00:03:00.979 --> 00:03:05.800 to bees yet and Anyway, but there's so many fun 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:09.280 things about your business that I think we can 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:12.460 all learn from There's lots of beekeepers out 00:03:12.460 --> 00:03:15.419 there that don't know how to make money at it 00:03:15.419 --> 00:03:17.919 Some of us that just do it for fun, but some 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:20.710 that want to start making some money So part 00:03:20.710 --> 00:03:22.930 of what we're going to talk about is the business 00:03:22.930 --> 00:03:27.289 side of things. But I want to jump right in with 00:03:27.289 --> 00:03:29.870 Chuck, what do you love about bees? Because you 00:03:29.870 --> 00:03:31.810 mentioned a minute ago before we were recording 00:03:31.810 --> 00:03:34.889 just how much you love honeybees and beekeeping. 00:03:35.030 --> 00:03:39.009 What is it about it? Oh, I don't think there's 00:03:39.009 --> 00:03:42.310 anything more fascinating than a beehive. One 00:03:42.310 --> 00:03:45.189 day the bees can be light on the verge of starvation 00:03:45.189 --> 00:03:48.189 and two days later they can have a super almost 00:03:48.189 --> 00:03:50.900 filled with honey. It's just Just amazing what 00:03:50.900 --> 00:03:53.400 they can do. I mean, to me, when I look in a 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:56.419 beehive, and you know, I don't believe in evolution, 00:03:56.500 --> 00:03:58.979 I believe in creation, and I look in a beehive 00:03:58.979 --> 00:04:01.300 and I just see God's creation right there in 00:04:01.300 --> 00:04:04.479 front of me. Just amazing what goes on in there. 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:08.039 Just I'm involved in God's creation every day, 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:10.919 you know, out in the outside with the flowers 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:14.460 and the trees and the bees and, you know, and 00:04:14.460 --> 00:04:16.660 the people that we work with, you know, I'm just 00:04:16.660 --> 00:04:19.519 blessed to be in this industry. You know, I think 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:23.740 part of what to me fits in with that is the harmony 00:04:23.740 --> 00:04:27.639 between all of it Flowers need bees bees need 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:32.019 flowers we need the fruit from the trees that 00:04:32.019 --> 00:04:34.339 flower which wouldn't happen without the bees 00:04:34.339 --> 00:04:37.860 and Hopefully we're also giving back and helping 00:04:37.860 --> 00:04:41.519 the bees out in some small way now that not that 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:44.399 they couldn't probably do better without us but 00:04:46.060 --> 00:04:48.660 But you know, we do try to make their life as 00:04:48.660 --> 00:04:52.519 good as we can also so yeah that harmony is an 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:55.759 interesting thing as far as all the things that 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:58.019 you do in beekeeping and I'm just gonna rattle 00:04:58.019 --> 00:05:01.480 some of them off because With your business you 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:04.439 sell honey. You sell nukes and queens. You do 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:07.439 pollination. You have a retail store you do classes 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:11.120 You do all kinds of everything. Is there something 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:16.569 that's your favorite part? This might sound silly, 00:05:16.970 --> 00:05:19.350 but I think one of the things I really enjoy 00:05:19.350 --> 00:05:23.410 is putting bees into blueberries in North Carolina. 00:05:23.829 --> 00:05:27.009 The farmers up there that I deal with are, they're 00:05:27.009 --> 00:05:30.509 like friends now over the years. And we just 00:05:30.509 --> 00:05:34.089 have a great relationship and it's just a good 00:05:34.089 --> 00:05:37.600 time of the year. And, you know, I can. I don't 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:40.819 do a lot of heavy work anymore but I do enjoy 00:05:40.819 --> 00:05:43.899 getting on loaders and unloading the semi and 00:05:43.899 --> 00:05:46.560 spread them into the blueberries it's just. I 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.100 guess that's one of my favorite things now that 00:05:49.100 --> 00:05:53.899 that I do in bees and you know to see the. The 00:05:53.899 --> 00:05:56.899 see what happens you know with the with the bloom 00:05:56.899 --> 00:06:00.160 and you know and then they have to irrigate the 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:04.410 for frost protection and. It's just a cool business 00:06:04.410 --> 00:06:07.170 to be involved with the blueberry growers and 00:06:07.170 --> 00:06:10.529 then to see the end result before we come north, 00:06:10.730 --> 00:06:12.990 we usually stop there and pick some blueberries. 00:06:13.589 --> 00:06:16.370 We're part of the business. Probably one of the 00:06:16.370 --> 00:06:19.089 most important parts of the blueberry business 00:06:19.089 --> 00:06:23.470 is the pollination side. Right now, that's one 00:06:23.470 --> 00:06:26.230 of my favorite things left to do, that I still 00:06:26.230 --> 00:06:29.029 do. Give me a little bit more detail on that. 00:06:29.509 --> 00:06:32.310 When do you go there? How long are the hives 00:06:32.310 --> 00:06:35.209 there? How many hives do you take? We usually 00:06:35.209 --> 00:06:39.810 bring around 3 ,000 up from South Carolina to 00:06:39.810 --> 00:06:44.750 North Carolina. We brought them in as early as 00:06:44.750 --> 00:06:47.790 first week in February, but when we first started 00:06:47.790 --> 00:06:50.189 going in there, normally they wouldn't go in 00:06:50.189 --> 00:06:54.300 until the first or second week of March. for 00:06:54.300 --> 00:06:56.879 quite a few years there, it got earlier and earlier, 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:00.399 but now it's headed back to where it was originally. 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:03.199 We're not putting bees in now until the beginning 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:06.980 of March, which is nice. Do you do any almond 00:07:06.980 --> 00:07:10.319 pollination too? We do send some bees to almonds. 00:07:11.180 --> 00:07:14.860 We usually send them beginning of February, anywhere 00:07:14.860 --> 00:07:18.579 from one to five loads, depending on how our 00:07:18.579 --> 00:07:21.180 bees are looking and what we're not going to 00:07:21.180 --> 00:07:25.389 need for blueberries. So blueberries sound like 00:07:25.389 --> 00:07:30.089 the priority. It's close by, it's only two hours 00:07:30.089 --> 00:07:32.870 away. Almonds are a lot better for the bees than 00:07:32.870 --> 00:07:36.569 blueberries, but I've got this... When I was 00:07:36.569 --> 00:07:38.629 a little kid, I wanted to grow blueberries, so 00:07:38.629 --> 00:07:41.529 I'm not growing blueberries, but I'm helping 00:07:41.529 --> 00:07:45.029 other guys make money at their blueberries, so 00:07:45.029 --> 00:07:48.649 it's kind of fulfilled a wish of mine in a way. 00:07:49.430 --> 00:07:52.149 Now when you say that the almonds are better 00:07:52.149 --> 00:07:54.970 for the bees than the blueberries explain that 00:07:54.970 --> 00:07:58.410 a little bit. Oh The blueberries they use so 00:07:58.410 --> 00:08:02.230 much fun decides And and we're in you know We're 00:08:02.230 --> 00:08:05.350 on the East Coast of South Carolina and the blueberries 00:08:05.350 --> 00:08:08.350 in North Carolina are on the East Coast and there's 00:08:08.350 --> 00:08:11.189 a band roll You know along the coast where where 00:08:11.189 --> 00:08:14.689 yellow Jasmine is prevalent. That's like a poison 00:08:14.689 --> 00:08:18.050 plant to the bees So we deal with that every 00:08:18.050 --> 00:08:22.660 year It's not a fun thing, but... OK, I just 00:08:22.660 --> 00:08:25.699 learned something. What is yellow jasmine and 00:08:25.699 --> 00:08:29.279 how is it poisonous to the bees? I admit, I didn't 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:32.639 know this. I always tell people I'm not too bright 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:36.039 because we take bees to South Carolina and the 00:08:36.039 --> 00:08:38.720 state flower for South Carolina is yellow jasmine. 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:42.039 Yeah, the nectar and the pollen is poison to 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:46.009 the bees. We've told our workers too that come 00:08:46.009 --> 00:08:50.090 in to do not eat the pollen when some of them 00:08:50.090 --> 00:08:52.269 will you know They like to stick their hive tool 00:08:52.269 --> 00:08:55.610 and eat a little pollen, but we told them there 00:08:55.610 --> 00:08:58.490 when the yellow jasmine is blooming don't Don't 00:08:58.490 --> 00:09:00.529 eat any of that pollen and a couple of them, 00:09:00.649 --> 00:09:03.409 you know They don't believe you and they they'd 00:09:03.409 --> 00:09:05.529 some of that pollen and they were they got sick. 00:09:05.649 --> 00:09:09.730 So it's It's not a very good plant. It's pretty 00:09:09.730 --> 00:09:13.649 to look at, but it's not good for the bees. Yeah. 00:09:14.029 --> 00:09:15.970 How do you find the transportation all the way 00:09:15.970 --> 00:09:18.090 out to California and back? Is that very hard 00:09:18.090 --> 00:09:24.570 on them? I guess any time you put bees on a truck 00:09:24.570 --> 00:09:28.389 there could be problems, but usually it's cold 00:09:28.389 --> 00:09:32.110 going out, so I don't think it affects the bees 00:09:32.110 --> 00:09:34.559 too much. Probably the worst thing is getting 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:37.779 stuck in the bug stations. You know, if you're 00:09:37.779 --> 00:09:40.279 in there for any length of time it can, you know, 00:09:40.419 --> 00:09:43.059 you can lose some frames of bees. But normally, 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.360 I think as long as they keep moving, you know, 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:48.519 stop at night to sleep, you know, you don't want 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:51.539 the guys stopping in the middle of the day. But 00:09:51.539 --> 00:09:55.220 we haven't had any real issues losing bees, trucking. 00:09:55.860 --> 00:09:59.120 So the problem is heat? The heat, yeah, but we 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:04.629 run four ways. We leave a six inch space between 00:10:04.629 --> 00:10:06.509 the rows down through the middle of the truck 00:10:06.509 --> 00:10:09.169 so they get plenty of air. Then they can hang 00:10:09.169 --> 00:10:13.090 out and not mingle with other hives. If the guys 00:10:13.090 --> 00:10:15.549 push them tight together, then the bees are mingling 00:10:15.549 --> 00:10:18.250 and fighting. But if you keep them spread apart, 00:10:18.730 --> 00:10:22.049 we seem to be okay. Yeah, and it keeps them cooler. 00:10:22.929 --> 00:10:26.470 I had a guest on the show a while back that helped 00:10:26.470 --> 00:10:29.009 clean up. I think it was in Washington State. 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.799 The bee truck that rolled over there and they 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:35.399 had a huge mess on their hands and you know You 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:38.100 see at least one of these someplace in the country 00:10:38.100 --> 00:10:42.120 every year where a full semi will tip over going 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:45.720 around a corner or something and and Glad you 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:48.159 haven't had to deal with any of that I'm looking 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:51.500 at your website here and and speaking of different 00:10:51.500 --> 00:10:55.159 kinds of Pollination and stuff. It's really cool 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:58.620 to be reminded just how different honey can be 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:03.940 based on what the bees are working. And so if 00:11:03.940 --> 00:11:05.899 you wouldn't mind, if you remember what's on 00:11:05.899 --> 00:11:08.980 your website, I want to ask you about some of 00:11:08.980 --> 00:11:12.840 these specific kinds of honey, because it starts 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:15.519 with just clover honey, which everybody's used 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:17.899 to. You know, it's similar to what you're going 00:11:17.899 --> 00:11:20.100 to get in the grocery store. Of course, yours 00:11:20.100 --> 00:11:22.960 is better. Ours is better. Yeah, that's what 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:27.769 everybody says. Hey, ours, ours is the best. 00:11:27.809 --> 00:11:30.690 Yours can be pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. 00:11:30.789 --> 00:11:34.509 Isn't it that people taste your honey and they'll 00:11:34.509 --> 00:11:36.590 say, Oh, it's the best honey I've ever had. And 00:11:36.590 --> 00:11:39.090 then you wonder, what have you actually been 00:11:39.090 --> 00:11:41.750 eating? You know, and there's other beekeepers 00:11:41.750 --> 00:11:44.990 around that I'm sure they probably tasted their 00:11:44.990 --> 00:11:48.129 honey or some, but for some reason they all your 00:11:48.129 --> 00:11:50.610 honey is the best. So which, you know, that's 00:11:50.610 --> 00:11:53.669 a nice thing to hear. Uh, but Makes you wonder 00:11:53.669 --> 00:11:56.350 what they've been eating, you know? Exactly. 00:11:56.629 --> 00:11:59.450 I mean, they've been getting some kind of, no 00:11:59.450 --> 00:12:02.269 offense, but crap from the supermarket. Right. 00:12:02.750 --> 00:12:05.309 Yeah. Who knows how much of it is even honey? 00:12:05.889 --> 00:12:09.049 It may be adulterated with who knows what. So. 00:12:09.129 --> 00:12:11.509 Well, we don't produce all the honey that we 00:12:11.509 --> 00:12:15.250 pack, but what we produce is the clover, the 00:12:15.250 --> 00:12:19.169 wildflower, the blueberry, not wheat. I think 00:12:19.169 --> 00:12:21.830 that's about. Yeah, that's about the ones that 00:12:21.830 --> 00:12:24.230 we produce, then we buy in the others that we 00:12:24.230 --> 00:12:26.649 pack. All right, I want to hear a little bit 00:12:26.649 --> 00:12:29.509 about the flavor profile of them, if you can. 00:12:30.509 --> 00:12:33.029 Tell me about the blueberry honey compared to 00:12:33.029 --> 00:12:37.509 a regular clover or wildflower honey. Oh, man, 00:12:37.610 --> 00:12:42.350 how do you describe blueberry? Well, it's in 00:12:42.350 --> 00:12:45.529 the bottom end of ELA in amber, in light amber. 00:12:45.730 --> 00:12:49.740 It's kind of right in there. Just a real nice 00:12:49.740 --> 00:12:54.700 peculiar flavor. It's kind of a little stronger, 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:59.220 a little fruitier, just an interesting flavor. 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:02.820 It's hard to describe. All right. Well, I'm going 00:13:02.820 --> 00:13:05.919 to ask you to keep trying. How about sunflower 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:10.500 honey? How does it compare? Oh, man. I don't 00:13:10.500 --> 00:13:13.580 know. I need to get the honey sommelier back 00:13:13.580 --> 00:13:17.039 on here. I don't really eat much sunflower. So 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:19.200 I don't I couldn't really tell you. We just pack 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:21.980 it because some people like it. I know granulates 00:13:21.980 --> 00:13:24.440 a little quicker than other honey. So it's it's 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:26.879 if if you're going to cream honey and some guys 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:28.879 say that's one of the better honeys to cream. 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.480 All right. Do you have a favorite? And this is 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:34.460 like picking a favorite child. Yeah, I do. I 00:13:34.460 --> 00:13:38.539 think, well, one of my favorites is Tupelo. I 00:13:38.539 --> 00:13:41.500 notice you don't have that on your website. So 00:13:41.500 --> 00:13:44.909 that means Chuck's eating it all himself. We 00:13:44.909 --> 00:13:46.970 probably ought to go to the bank and take a loan 00:13:46.970 --> 00:13:51.529 and buy a couple barrels, but we used to produce 00:13:51.529 --> 00:13:54.429 a little bit in South Carolina, Tupelo. There's 00:13:54.429 --> 00:13:57.850 a section where there's the Tupelo trees. Are 00:13:57.850 --> 00:14:00.649 you a beekeeper who loves sharing tips, asking 00:14:00.649 --> 00:14:02.970 questions, and showing off your latest honey 00:14:02.970 --> 00:14:06.009 haul? Then join The Hive, introducing the Man 00:14:06.009 --> 00:14:09.049 Lake beekeeping community on Facebook, your new 00:14:09.049 --> 00:14:12.500 go -to for everything honey bees. 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Yeah, I really like 00:14:52.049 --> 00:14:55.970 Sourwood honey. And then my friend in Oregon 00:14:55.970 --> 00:15:00.190 makes, uh, a little bit of Fireweed honey. And 00:15:00.190 --> 00:15:03.730 that's, that's really good too. So there's, I 00:15:03.730 --> 00:15:06.519 guess... Tupelo would be my favorite, but there's 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:09.860 a lot there that would be just as good as I wish 00:15:09.860 --> 00:15:12.519 I could say it was a New York honey. That was 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:15.639 my favorite. But anyway, I'm going to be honest 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:18.419 and say, you know, those other honeys are just 00:15:18.419 --> 00:15:22.100 so unique. And although we do make some locusts 00:15:22.100 --> 00:15:24.360 once in a while in New York, and that's right 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:27.559 up there with those, if you can get pure locusts. 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:31.039 So, but we very seldom get much locusts. We had 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:35.039 the biggest locust bloom. This past spring, I 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.340 mean, it was just white every place, but it turned 00:15:39.340 --> 00:15:41.960 rainy and cold and that was it. So we didn't 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.620 make any, but that's typical Locust weather for 00:15:45.620 --> 00:15:48.620 us. Let's talk a little bit about the business 00:15:48.620 --> 00:15:51.879 if you don't mind sharing. And if I ask you anything 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:54.440 that you don't want to answer, you don't have 00:15:54.440 --> 00:16:00.210 to answer. Okay. Is there an area of the business 00:16:00.210 --> 00:16:02.289 that's a little bit better moneymaker for you 00:16:02.289 --> 00:16:04.889 than some other areas, whether it's pollination 00:16:04.889 --> 00:16:09.889 or retail or whatever? Yeah, I think our nukes 00:16:09.889 --> 00:16:13.610 and queens and our pollination business are pretty 00:16:13.610 --> 00:16:17.210 good. Yeah, the nukes have been really, really 00:16:17.210 --> 00:16:20.750 good for us. We do sell a lot of nukes. We have 00:16:20.750 --> 00:16:23.190 a pretty good reputation for our nukes and queens. 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:27.559 On another topic here, as you know, the mortality 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:31.659 rate for a lot of commercial beekeepers was really 00:16:31.659 --> 00:16:35.000 horrific this last winter. How did you guys come 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:38.759 through? We had some issues, not so much losing 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:44.679 the hives, but the populations dropped. differentiate 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:47.759 between our pollination bees and our new nukes 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:51.659 and queens bees. Years ago we made the decision 00:16:51.659 --> 00:16:55.440 that the nukes were going to be just nukes. So 00:16:55.440 --> 00:16:58.600 our whole nuke operation other than our support 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.759 hives are all in five frame nuke boxes year -round. 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.359 So right now we're shipping stuff back to South 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:08.019 Carolina and all the nukes are in a two -story 00:17:08.019 --> 00:17:11.369 nuke box. So it's a two five frame nuke boxes 00:17:11.369 --> 00:17:14.349 so it's a double five frame nuke box which equivalent 00:17:14.349 --> 00:17:17.730 of a single so and that's how we ship ship them 00:17:17.730 --> 00:17:20.769 back down so and we'll i think we're shipping 00:17:20.769 --> 00:17:24.970 around 8 000 down for the winter and then we'll 00:17:24.970 --> 00:17:27.970 winter those over in doubles but they're all 00:17:27.970 --> 00:17:32.430 on brand new cone so every year we we draw you 00:17:32.430 --> 00:17:36.730 know tens of thousands of frames of foundation 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:40.359 So that when we sell nukes, the majority of the 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:42.500 frames in the nukes that we sell is less than 00:17:42.500 --> 00:17:47.200 a year old. So it's primo. Comb that has an accumulated 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.319 pesticides and things. Yeah. And in New York 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:54.059 where we keep our nuke is not a lot of production 00:17:54.059 --> 00:17:59.980 agriculture as other places. So it's fairly clean 00:17:59.980 --> 00:18:04.119 for pesticides. And there's not a lot, there's 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:06.859 no other big commercial guys where we keep our 00:18:06.859 --> 00:18:09.779 nukes. It's just hobbyists, maybe a couple little 00:18:09.779 --> 00:18:13.319 sideliners. So, you know, when we do mate our 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:15.859 queens, they're mating, the majority of the queens 00:18:15.859 --> 00:18:19.400 that we sell have mated with our drones. So we 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:23.079 kind of keep our drone pool just for us, you 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:25.220 know. And what would you say is the strength 00:18:25.220 --> 00:18:29.119 of your nukes versus others? You better get about 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:31.799 when you transfer me better almost put the second 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:34.619 deep on right away because a lot of times when 00:18:34.619 --> 00:18:37.259 they get their nukes there's four sheets of root 00:18:37.259 --> 00:18:41.119 and Three or more are sealed. So they're they're 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:44.539 they're ready to go for sure. They're gonna build 00:18:44.539 --> 00:18:49.059 out really quickly. Yeah Okay, so of your pollinator 00:18:49.059 --> 00:18:51.640 hives, do you have an idea of your mortality 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:54.920 rate on those this last winter? Like I said, 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:58.119 it was, we probably lost 30 % of our bees last 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:02.779 year. And that's summer losses. Yeah. But that's 00:19:02.779 --> 00:19:06.059 a lot better than a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. 00:19:06.220 --> 00:19:08.680 But, but we did have a lot and we didn't send 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:11.759 many, we only sent one go to California. We were 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.359 planning on sending, you know, you plan on things 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:18.619 and a lot of times it's just a wish, but uh. 00:19:18.730 --> 00:19:21.049 We thought oh, we're gonna send five to seven 00:19:21.049 --> 00:19:23.230 loads because our bees look so good in the fall, 00:19:23.250 --> 00:19:27.809 but There again all of a sudden when we got back 00:19:27.809 --> 00:19:30.289 down, South Carolina in January our clusters 00:19:30.289 --> 00:19:34.089 had shrunk down to You know three four five six 00:19:34.089 --> 00:19:37.089 frames of bees where they were full boxes before 00:19:37.089 --> 00:19:41.049 so but our nuke our nuke bees didn't shrink But 00:19:41.049 --> 00:19:43.609 they're all on that brand new comb and they have 00:19:43.609 --> 00:19:46.859 brand new queen every year where our pollination 00:19:46.859 --> 00:19:49.960 bees were just, you know, we're just running 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:53.079 average bees and a lot of queens are two years 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:56.839 old and the combs are getting, you know, we probably 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:00.680 need to start pulling frames out and replacing 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:03.980 with some foundation. But, you know, that's easier 00:20:03.980 --> 00:20:07.660 said than done, I guess. Well, that's a job both 00:20:07.660 --> 00:20:11.180 for your employees and for the bees. Yeah. You 00:20:11.180 --> 00:20:13.180 know, a lot of guys, and then we did it too. 00:20:13.220 --> 00:20:15.140 When we first started selling nukes, we'd go 00:20:15.140 --> 00:20:17.519 into our production colonies and you'd pull out, 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:20.400 you know, three combs out of each hive to make 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:23.000 up your nukes or more than you put foundation 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:25.680 in. So you're constantly replacing your frames 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:29.259 in your operation. When we went and decided to 00:20:29.259 --> 00:20:32.200 do nukes or nukes and pollination bees or pollination 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:34.599 bees, and we don't sell any frames out of the 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:37.859 pollination bees, you know, we're, I'm sure we 00:20:37.859 --> 00:20:42.009 need to start pulling And we've made plans this 00:20:42.009 --> 00:20:44.349 spring to start pulling at least two frames out 00:20:44.349 --> 00:20:48.089 of every hive. And replace it. And replace them, 00:20:48.089 --> 00:20:52.990 yeah. So we didn't see the big drop in bees in 00:20:52.990 --> 00:20:55.569 our nuc operation that we saw on the pollination 00:20:55.569 --> 00:21:00.730 side. And South Carolina was really cold. I mean, 00:21:01.130 --> 00:21:03.650 I've never seen such a cold winter as we had 00:21:03.650 --> 00:21:07.319 last winter down there. I think almost six inches 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:09.940 of snow there at one point in South Carolina. 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:13.059 That was, you know, if we get anything, it's 00:21:13.059 --> 00:21:16.400 usually an ice storm or flurries, you know, but 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:19.119 they'd melt before they hit the ground. Uh, but 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:22.160 last year and the cold, the cold hung in there 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:25.519 for a long time. Normally when we ship these 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:29.880 California in the beginning of February, there's 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:32.500 three, three to four sheets with, you know, good. 00:21:32.569 --> 00:21:36.170 Good amount of brood on him. And, uh, this year, 00:21:36.890 --> 00:21:39.269 Queens didn't even start to lay till February. 00:21:39.470 --> 00:21:42.569 So it was, uh, it was a crazy and, and maple 00:21:42.569 --> 00:21:46.109 didn't even start till into February. So it was 00:21:46.109 --> 00:21:49.309 a late year. So I was kind of nervous about shipping 00:21:49.309 --> 00:21:52.210 bees out there with no brood. So we just held 00:21:52.210 --> 00:21:55.750 back and finally we sent one load, but. Do you 00:21:55.750 --> 00:21:58.640 overwinter any bees in New York? We did last 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:03.079 year. Last year we did. We forgot a yard of 40 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:08.680 hives from the Nukes in Queenside. 40 doubles. 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:10.779 You know, everybody asked, well, how do your 00:22:10.779 --> 00:22:13.140 bees winter? Well, I guess they did pretty good. 00:22:13.220 --> 00:22:16.980 We had 37 left alive this spring. So, and that 00:22:16.980 --> 00:22:18.880 wasn't, you know, we didn't prepare them for 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:21.440 a New York winter. Normally we get them down 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:25.410 there. We go to feed and, you know. But no, so 00:22:25.410 --> 00:22:29.349 I guess our bees do winter well in New York. 00:22:29.869 --> 00:22:34.650 And I did have a friend that he used to get 50 00:22:34.650 --> 00:22:37.309 to 100 nukes from us every year. And he would 00:22:37.309 --> 00:22:39.569 put them in certain yards and then he'd watch 00:22:39.569 --> 00:22:43.109 them. And a lot of times he'd only lose one or 00:22:43.109 --> 00:22:46.630 two out of 30 in a yard of our nuc. We don't 00:22:46.630 --> 00:22:50.829 winter our bees, but in New York, not on purpose. 00:22:51.339 --> 00:22:54.099 People have had good success with our bees, wintering 00:22:54.099 --> 00:22:57.339 our bees. And we did too, even though we didn't 00:22:57.339 --> 00:23:00.619 prepare them for winter. Yeah, how big of a problem 00:23:00.619 --> 00:23:03.779 is Varroa where you are or where your bees are? 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:06.740 I guess it's just the same everywhere, isn't 00:23:06.740 --> 00:23:08.559 it? I mean, I don't know if there's any place 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:12.700 that's better or worse for Varroa. Do you have 00:23:12.700 --> 00:23:17.000 any secret tips for hobbyists or sideliners out 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:21.660 there? Oh, man. They don't have to be secret. 00:23:22.740 --> 00:23:26.420 I mean, we've been using the glycerin oxalic 00:23:26.420 --> 00:23:28.960 strips. We've been making those up for a few 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:32.519 years and they seem to keep the mite loads down 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:34.920 during the summer. I mean, we have a long period 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:38.440 of time. We're not like in the Midwest when the 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:40.440 honey flow doesn't start till the end of June 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:44.920 and it's over in August. We can make honey in 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:47.980 May, end of May up here in New York or even beginning 00:23:47.980 --> 00:23:51.869 of May. And we can, I mean, the bees are just 00:23:51.869 --> 00:23:54.349 bringing in nectar a couple days ago yet. Not 00:23:54.349 --> 00:23:58.170 lots of nectar, but some. So, you know, we, there's 00:23:58.170 --> 00:24:00.410 a long period of time where we can make honey. 00:24:00.450 --> 00:24:03.349 So we need something to get us through that period. 00:24:03.869 --> 00:24:06.369 And that doxella glycerin strip seemed to work 00:24:06.369 --> 00:24:10.890 pretty well for us. So. Any other diseases or? 00:24:10.970 --> 00:24:13.650 pests that are a big problem, in the Carolinas 00:24:13.650 --> 00:24:17.670 especially. Well, there's one big pest, but the 00:24:17.670 --> 00:24:22.369 bears, bears are a pest. We fight those in North 00:24:22.369 --> 00:24:25.809 Carolina, Maine, and New York. Yeah, those are 00:24:25.809 --> 00:24:30.450 the big pests. They get into a queen mating yard 00:24:30.450 --> 00:24:33.630 and you can lose a lot of money quick. Now when 00:24:33.630 --> 00:24:35.809 you say you fight them, I want to get a little 00:24:35.809 --> 00:24:41.579 video on you fighting a bear. That brings us 00:24:41.579 --> 00:24:46.940 to the wild and crazy story portion. You said 00:24:46.940 --> 00:24:49.700 I should be thinking, I should be thinking about 00:24:49.700 --> 00:24:52.180 that. I don't. You thought of anything unusual? 00:24:53.259 --> 00:24:59.319 Oh, just moving beasts, I guess, is when I was 00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.819 young and trying to get going and stuff, it'd 00:25:01.819 --> 00:25:05.359 be, you know, it was me and my wife, pretty much. 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.599 She would be up in New York. I'd be down South 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:12.480 Carolina then I had bees in Florida and I and 00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.940 that was before I had loaders So we'd load I'd 00:25:14.940 --> 00:25:18.319 load it work all day in Florida Then load bees 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:21.299 on my truck at night and leave down there 11 00:25:21.299 --> 00:25:25.619 at night I wanted to get across Florida to over 00:25:25.619 --> 00:25:29.559 to just on the East Coast so I could avoid all 00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.599 the traffic in the morning and so I had worked 00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.069 already 24 hours and then I So I'm gonna get 00:25:36.069 --> 00:25:38.309 a cup of coffee, but coffee never really kept 00:25:38.309 --> 00:25:40.109 me awake. But all of a sudden, I don't know what 00:25:40.109 --> 00:25:43.289 was in that coffee at that truck stop, but I 00:25:43.289 --> 00:25:45.809 got all the way up to South Carolina for I had 00:25:45.809 --> 00:25:48.930 to take a nap. So that was one long trip. It 00:25:48.930 --> 00:25:54.349 was like 36 hours, but I had been awake for over 00:25:54.349 --> 00:25:58.809 two days. But that kind of crazy stuff, you know, 00:25:59.029 --> 00:26:01.230 doing the same thing in South Carolina, loading 00:26:01.230 --> 00:26:04.700 bees and. Being on the road being up for two 00:26:04.700 --> 00:26:08.940 days. I fell asleep in the bobcat Going to pull 00:26:08.940 --> 00:26:11.420 bees off the truck, you know, it's just dumb 00:26:11.420 --> 00:26:15.240 stuff like that that Just cuz I was just trying 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:19.140 to do too much by myself Yeah Now is that does 00:26:19.140 --> 00:26:22.099 that go along with some of the illegal things 00:26:22.099 --> 00:26:25.079 that you said you might be alluding to? Yeah, 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:30.579 yeah, yeah No more detail than that, huh? No 00:26:32.230 --> 00:26:34.430 Darn, I was hoping we could get a confession 00:26:34.430 --> 00:26:37.589 of some kind out of you here today. Oh, well. 00:26:38.190 --> 00:26:40.990 Well, oh, there was one. Yeah, one crazy time 00:26:40.990 --> 00:26:43.609 we were loading bees up in Maine out of blueberries 00:26:43.609 --> 00:26:47.650 and we were up on this hill and we got the truck 00:26:47.650 --> 00:26:52.150 loaded and I was up on top and it started pouring. 00:26:52.809 --> 00:26:55.509 They were sending the nets up and it was lightning 00:26:55.509 --> 00:26:58.049 thunder and lightning storm. It was crazy. And 00:26:58.049 --> 00:27:01.319 I'm up on top of this load on top of this. pretty 00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:04.720 good size, almost a mountain, but not really 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:08.259 a mountain. The trucker grabbed a bee net, and 00:27:08.259 --> 00:27:12.119 the lightning struck, and he felt the electric 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.819 in the net. He dropped it. I don't know what 00:27:15.819 --> 00:27:17.980 happened there, but he's afraid to grab the net 00:27:17.980 --> 00:27:21.420 again. They finally got the net up on there, 00:27:21.619 --> 00:27:24.619 and we got it netted as quickly as possible. 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:29.200 Just crazy things you do, and you think you're 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:33.440 invincible. So just thank the good Lord that 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.759 I didn't die on top of that load, I guess. I'm 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.680 sure there's a lot of beekeepers have been doing 00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:41.519 the same thing, you know, and you look back and 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.920 say, boy, that was stupid. But anyway, you're 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:47.539 young and dumb and going to get it done. And 00:27:47.539 --> 00:27:50.380 yeah, I don't know if that's crazy, funny things, 00:27:50.819 --> 00:27:54.079 but just, yeah, I, I used to carry a transmission 00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:56.799 with me and one of my trucks, cause I was afraid 00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.900 that. I'd had problems with the one and so I'd 00:27:59.900 --> 00:28:02.279 say I better carry an extra transmission and 00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.619 then just dumped stuff like that when you're 00:28:04.619 --> 00:28:06.220 young and you're getting going and you don't 00:28:06.220 --> 00:28:09.000 have a lot of money and You know, you're fixing 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:11.019 your own truck on the road and doing all that 00:28:11.019 --> 00:28:14.440 kind of stuff You have to know a lot You have 00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:17.460 to be a mechanic. You have to know be biology. 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:22.039 You have to know business all these things Yeah 00:28:22.410 --> 00:28:24.849 Well, let's just make a statement right now. 00:28:25.009 --> 00:28:27.089 Beekeepers are the smartest people in the world. 00:28:27.109 --> 00:28:36.230 How's that? Well, yeah, we could be. Or we have 00:28:36.230 --> 00:28:39.089 the least common sense, one or the other. Or 00:28:39.089 --> 00:28:42.349 gluttons for punishment, maybe. Yeah. Hey, a 00:28:42.349 --> 00:28:45.990 couple last things. If I were a brand new thinking, 00:28:46.210 --> 00:28:49.210 hey, maybe I want to get started in beekeeping 00:28:49.210 --> 00:28:51.990 and I walked into your shop and ran into you. 00:28:52.549 --> 00:28:56.130 What kind of advice would you have for me? Now 00:28:56.130 --> 00:28:58.089 you're talking about a house somebody that just 00:28:58.089 --> 00:29:01.049 wants a couple hives or somebody that wants to 00:29:01.049 --> 00:29:06.710 be a commercial No, no just a backyard Hey, you 00:29:06.710 --> 00:29:09.630 know, I I've got a half acre that my house is 00:29:09.630 --> 00:29:12.549 on and I think bees are cool and I want to give 00:29:12.549 --> 00:29:16.369 it a try Well, yeah, the first thing I ask is 00:29:16.369 --> 00:29:19.200 why do you want to be hive? And I said, do you 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.599 want it just so you can get your own honey? And 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.759 if they say, oh yeah, that's what I want. I say, 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:25.640 well, go over to the shelf. Cause that honey 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.039 is a lot cheaper than anything you're going to 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:32.359 produce. And, and of course I always say, well, 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.220 you know, it's going to take you a couple of 00:29:34.220 --> 00:29:37.259 years to figure it out and maybe to get your 00:29:37.259 --> 00:29:40.940 bees to winter, you know, but I like the answer 00:29:40.940 --> 00:29:43.819 that you, you said there was, you know, I think 00:29:43.819 --> 00:29:46.670 bees are cool. You know, I always tell people 00:29:46.670 --> 00:29:49.789 it's, it's beekeeping as a hobby, right? And 00:29:49.789 --> 00:29:52.609 hobbies are expensive. You know, if you're, if 00:29:52.609 --> 00:29:55.690 you're a golfer, you know how expensive golf 00:29:55.690 --> 00:29:59.430 can be. If you're a trout fisherman, you know, 00:29:59.609 --> 00:30:02.809 flies and the, you know, everything is expensive. 00:30:02.990 --> 00:30:06.410 So you have to look at beekeeping as a hobby 00:30:06.410 --> 00:30:09.410 as, you know, it's not going to be cheap. But 00:30:09.410 --> 00:30:12.950 if you like, it's like looking at fish in a bowl, 00:30:13.089 --> 00:30:16.200 right? If you like to watch fish in a bowl and 00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:19.660 you like to watch bees flying out of a hive and 00:30:19.660 --> 00:30:22.039 just to see the amazing things and everything 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.799 is different and all during the year you're doing 00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:28.099 different things. That's why you should get a 00:30:28.099 --> 00:30:31.640 beehive, just to enjoy what's God's creation 00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:35.119 in that box. And that's a good reason right there. 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.559 To pollinate your garden, right? Your neighbor's 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.009 garden. But as far as saving money on honey, 00:30:41.089 --> 00:30:43.670 yeah, I'm with you It's kind of like when you 00:30:43.670 --> 00:30:46.170 get chickens you think all these eggs are gonna 00:30:46.170 --> 00:30:51.009 be free Yeah until you buy the chicks and and 00:30:51.009 --> 00:30:54.390 you buy the coop or build the coop and then you 00:30:54.390 --> 00:30:57.750 buy the Food which has gone way up in price the 00:30:57.750 --> 00:31:00.470 last few years. I mean we have chickens here 00:31:00.470 --> 00:31:04.779 and I tell people Yeah, if you're doing it just 00:31:04.779 --> 00:31:07.460 for the eggs only, just go to the store. It's 00:31:07.460 --> 00:31:10.720 cheaper and easier and everything else. But if 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.440 you think chickens are fun and you want to know 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.420 that the eggs are coming from, you know, you 00:31:16.420 --> 00:31:18.740 know what they're eating and all that kind of 00:31:18.740 --> 00:31:21.460 stuff and how they've been treated, then that's 00:31:21.460 --> 00:31:25.339 a cool thing. And it's the same with bees, right? 00:31:25.660 --> 00:31:30.269 You know, you know that you're getting pure honey, 00:31:30.950 --> 00:31:32.789 and hopefully you're not getting the poisonous 00:31:32.789 --> 00:31:38.869 kind from South Carolina. Right. But, you know, 00:31:39.049 --> 00:31:42.009 it's that the Yellow Jasmine goes all the way 00:31:42.009 --> 00:31:44.549 around. It goes into the Gulf Coast states too, 00:31:44.569 --> 00:31:48.089 and those guys have problems with the Yellow 00:31:48.089 --> 00:31:50.839 Jasmine also. Well, I haven't lived in those 00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:54.039 areas, so I just feel totally naive to that whole 00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.920 thing. Yeah, then we decided to raise queen. 00:31:57.019 --> 00:31:59.480 We decided to be queen raiser, you know, breeders 00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:03.319 too. So that affects that part of it too. That 00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:07.720 time of year, we usually raise another 25 to 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:11.119 30 percent, 40 percent sometimes extra cells 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:14.640 just to make sure we have enough to get through 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.279 that point of the year. Well, you know, and you 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:19.839 were talking about You know, what's your favorite 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.500 thing and all that at one point. You'd be out 00:32:22.500 --> 00:32:24.720 in the bee yard all day long, you know, working 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:26.720 hard and you come home at night and there's a 00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.359 few bee hives in your backyard. And I'd always 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:32.680 have to go and pop a cover and look at one of 00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:35.240 those. I don't know why, but as all day and bees, 00:32:35.380 --> 00:32:38.440 but you get home and I got to take a look at 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:42.099 that one hive. So it is addicting. It's an addiction, 00:32:42.099 --> 00:32:44.809 but I think it's a good one. It's definitely 00:32:44.809 --> 00:32:47.630 a good, healthy one. Hey, Chuck, I appreciate 00:32:47.630 --> 00:32:49.750 your time so much. I'm going to let you get back 00:32:49.750 --> 00:32:52.369 to work. I know you have a ton to do today, but 00:32:52.369 --> 00:32:55.589 thanks for being with us. If people want to find 00:32:55.589 --> 00:33:01.470 you, your website, cutics .com. Yeah, yeah. With 00:33:01.470 --> 00:33:05.470 a K. Our four different companies will be listed 00:33:05.470 --> 00:33:07.769 in there. I'll stick it in the show notes in 00:33:07.769 --> 00:33:10.730 case people can't spell it, but yeah, Cutics 00:33:10.730 --> 00:33:14.589 with two Ks. Hey, that's it. So thank you so 00:33:14.589 --> 00:33:16.630 much Eric for inviting me to do this. I had a 00:33:16.630 --> 00:33:19.369 good time It was uh, you made it point you've 00:33:19.369 --> 00:33:22.609 made it painless. Oh good I want to get out there 00:33:22.609 --> 00:33:24.670 to New York and see you sometime. Yeah, come 00:33:24.670 --> 00:33:28.190 on out and visit and I will We'll take you around 00:33:28.190 --> 00:33:31.289 show you what we do and put you to work That'd 00:33:31.289 --> 00:33:33.609 be a lot of fun. 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