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love. On today's episode we're going to Southern Arizona for a conversation with
beekeeper who can tell us all about what it's like keeping bees in a really hot
environment. Then off to the south of France to learn about a revolutionary new
bee smoker device. But first how about a wild and crazy beekeeping story sent in
by Paola? She writes, last weekend my hive was getting robbed by an enormous
wild hive. My backyard looked like a tornado of bees. Kind of freaked out the
neighbors. So in an effort to help or rather feel helpful, I ran out without
any bee-suter protective gear, grabbed my garden hose, and started showering the
hive and the plume of bees around it. It seemed to be working but all of a
sudden I had hundreds of bees on me. Maybe a thousand very wet bees. According to
my husband I was absolutely covered in bees so I dropped the hose and shimmied
over to a sunny spot. I got stung in the process and did everything in my power
not to trigger a potential firestorm of stings from the other bees. I stayed
frozen in the sun, soaking wet with God knows how many bees crawling all over me
for about 30 minutes. One by one they dried and flew off. Good news is my
hive was able to defend itself and the robbing stopped but less than learned
never run out without a bee suit to intervene in a robbing. And here's a
short one from Sharon. She says my husband wanted me to come outside to look at
a hive. I said wait let me get my shoes. He said it's still raining the girls are
all inside. You're safe you don't need your shoes. Yep you guessed it got stung
on the bottom of my foot.
Hey everybody I'd like to welcome as our special guest today Monica King from
Arizona. Monica how are you? Doing great thank you. Thanks for having me Eric.
Hey give us just a quick background. Where in Arizona are you and then let's
talk about what beekeeping is like down there in the heat. Yes I'm actually
located west of Tucson Arizona approximately 32 miles from the Mexico
border and I've been beekeeping here. I actually moved here in 1994 from Florida
and it is way different. It's a dry heat. The bees have issues with meltdowns if
the colony is not extremely strong so beekeepers have to be aware of the
temperatures and be able to provide water internally to the hives if they
don't have the forage population necessary to do the water foraging and
then we also have issues with the Queen's overheating and our
brood overheating so if the internal temperatures reach 104 degrees or more
we have substantial damage without even knowing it as beekeepers will
go into the colony and we'll be going what happened and here it's because of
internal overheating. Okay slow down that's three big problems. I want to
learn about each one of them. The first one you called hive meltdown. Is it
actually melting? Is it hot enough to wax melt? Yes exactly. Oh my gosh. So does it
like ooze out of the entrance? Yes and bees get stuck in their own honey and
it's it's those kind of things also cause robbing of course so there's just a
new you know ant problems that right there is one of the major problems for
people that like to try to utilize other hive styles other than the Langstrop so
like when somebody is interested in doing like say a top bar hive you know
where it doesn't have any structure to hold the comb other than that top bar it
is extremely difficult so we always recommend to new beekeepers to start off
with the standard Langstrop so that they learn temperature regulation they
they learn how actually how the bees use airflow in order to thermoregulate at
the same time protecting the hive from the robbers while providing that airflow
so there's all kinds of different things that we actually have to do in order to
prevent the colony from having that honey meltdown. And I assume you want
foundation on those frames. Exactly that's the easiest way to to be able to
handle it those those top bars like we're talking about I mean you go in and
do an inspection you lift the bar up and the whole comb just pops off so that
is a huge issue so we basically tell beekeepers you know learn the Langstrop
style use foundation get comfortable with all that and maybe when you hit
you're like your fifth year beekeeping then you can play around with the more
unique hive styles such as top bar and a lot of beekeepers in southern Arizona
don't even recommend them at all but I do have some of my students do use them
successfully we had a local beekeeper that had up to 70 of them it just is a
lot more there's a lot more maintenance involved with those in southern Arizona.
I just can't imagine taking a frame out of a top bar or a bar out of a top
bar whatever we call it on a really hot day it just seems like it would fall
apart. Yes exactly exactly. Now you mentioned the term weak hive can a strong
hive keep the internal temperature cool enough that we don't have these meltdown
issues? Yes yes if you have a strong colony you know I'm talking like double
deep with some medium or triple deep with medium supers on top and you have
like a colony that has got that 50, 65,000 count work power and they have a
good airflow which means either utilizing things like screen bottom boards
or the round entrance discs where you can flip it to the screen on multiple
levels or even having a inner cover style where there we actually have made it
where the inner cover has a screen and then we put another box on top of that
so that the hot air rises out and is able to escape over through the upper box
also having a screen. So we utilize green a lot here in southern Arizona to
protect our hives from the robbing but to allow that airflow that is necessary
for them to do their thermal regulation. Then having so you have a population
that can then fan the water that they're bringing in but you also have to have
those forage bees to go out and gather that water so sometimes that large
colony they can handle that. The small colonies with a lower forage population
they end up having an internal like a frame feeder with water in it not
sugar syrup but an actual internal frame feeder with water will assist
allowing humidity because like I said it's a dry heat and going back to that so
your brood needs to have a humidity level inside of it and with this dry heat
and let's say your low on forage population your brood will actually be
too dry I mean you can look at the food that you know inside the cells and
realize that it's all dried up there's not a whole lot of moisture in your in
your worker bee jelly or your royal jelly and you're realizing okay we've got
some issues with moisture and so by putting that internal frame feeder
inside the colony it does assist greatly. The other thing we do is we will add
things like insulation board on top. I would extending over with a block on it
for those smaller hives. Our commercial beekeepers that regularly have really you
know they they will combine hives keep strong hives so that they can keep them
in the middle of you know like an open agricultural field or whatever and they
don't have the issues where we have bees that are in areas where maybe the the
hobbyists didn't control the mite problem and so they had a decrease somehow
there was a decrease in the forage population or the the whole demographics
as a whole and then you don't have that those water foragers so we're just
basically assisting them when needed. Right what about shade I know for a
commercial beekeeper it wouldn't really be possible but for hobbyist with two four
six whatever right are there good ways to just I mean does it help a lot to just
get some shade up? It does it does help a lot so actually in places like Yuma or
the Imperial Valley where you see commercial beekeepers with hives they
actually build shade structures for their colonies so it does you know they do
do it. In Southern Arizona we highly recommend trying to find a nice shade
tree and put in the colony on the northeast side of that shade tree so
it's getting morning sun yet afternoon shade and if you don't have that some
people's yards don't have a shade tree I mean you're stuck with the scrub bushes
type thing and so basically that really thick insulation foam insulation kind of
like a sheet and it's thick and you can actually sit that on top of your colony
with a block and so that when the wind comes but have it overextend off to the
sides making sure that in the heat of the day around that one two three three
p.m. time period that that side is completely shaded so that the sun is
just not beating down on the wall of the box. So it's almost like putting a big
hat on it. Yeah exactly. Big sombrero on your bee hives. Sombrero. Exactly. And what
happens to the Queens you mentioned that do they just get too hot? Yes well if the
Queens get too hot it has the heat has the ability to actually I'm gonna
I'm gonna just basically say nuke the sperm inside her spermatheca. She will
no longer be able to lay and the bees will like consider her basically faulty.
Yeah damage goods and want to replace her. Damage goods and want to replace her
and we have we have Africanized bees in our area so basically if your European
Queen is overheated the bees decide that they want to replace her because of
that then the daughter goes out and mates with Africanized drones and your
residential backyard beehive now becomes a potentially dangerous colony and so
now you're out your your money for spending on the the original European
Queen and you need to go buy another European Queen and some people don't
understand it's due to heat not due to Queen quality and that's something that
gonna be doing a talk on on Queen quality more than just genetics at the
Arizona Honeybee Festival next month and just to try to get the word out there
that there is a larger picture when you are talking about your Queen and and
how she's laying. So it's not a matter of the heat killing the Queen it
basically sterilizes the Queen. Basic there you go yeah and it also kills the
brood. Yeah. So there's you know yeah. When it gets cooler can the Queen start
laying again or is she sterile forever? It depends on the temperatures that she
hit you know and the percentage of of what's going on so I there's more
research I think that should be done in this area to answer your question there
like is she completely damaged or she just have some now sterile eggs that
she's laying and the bees are realizing those eggs you know that she's laying as
a worker bee intended to be a worker bee but are not they this is a fertile egg
and I'm putting it into a worker cell but it's not a fertile egg you know and
they pull it out and discard it or cannibalize it you know there's there's
I think some research needs to be done more in in that kind of department. Okay
so for everybody out there that's in grad school right now. Yes. And you need
some kind of a some kind of a PhD research study to do there you go
there's an idea for you. I want to talk more about this subject of Africanized
bees. I'm lucky I live in an area where we don't have them yet I'm up in Utah we
have cold winters but I hear so much about them part of what you do is what
you call honeybee rehab. Yes. Tell me more about that. Well for instance last
night I went and gathered a hive from an owl box so we have a lot of people that
are just sweetheart you know like put out these owl boxes and even though it's
small it's not something like you would hear of a European colony choosing if
they swarmed our Africanized bees don't mind small compartments so we'll find
them in water meter boxes in these owl boxes in compost bins in all these
different locations and of course homeowners don't want them there so I
go in and I remove these bees and the reason why we call them all Africanized
is because around 2008 our USDA lab here in Tucson Carl Hayden Research Center
did sampling from the Mexico border all the way to the South Rim of the Grand
Canyon and at that time 98% came back as hybridized to one extent or another so
the percentages will vary according to the colony so with that said we don't
know we treat every colony like it has that potential to be that killer hive
right so and those that can't see I did quotes around that air quotes so
basically air quotes around killer so what it is is normally in the past era
about one in 20 of these colonies when I would go into them I would consider them
my number 10 on my heater meter scale where they did they would you know if I
didn't have a suit on if I didn't have gloves and you know full protective gear
these bees were trying 50 to 100 200 trying to sting me all at one time one
in 20 colonies in the past have been like that for some odd reason this year
that percentage is more like a third of them and I don't know why so what do you
do what's your rehab so I bring them back to my apiary in the middle of nowhere
where they're not going to bother any humans or pets animals anything like
that and I have the ability to then requeen them so I go in and change their
genetics basically I find I allow them to get settled in a couple weeks allow
the African ice queen to start laying secure the colony inside of the Lang
Stroth box and then once they're all happy then I go in and I I remove their
queen and depending on their attitude there's different ways that I requeen
them so sometimes if they're really really nasty I might divide them like if
I if it's a double deep-sized colony for instance I might divide them into five
smaller nucleus colonies in order to get them to accept new queens which means
I'm buying five European Queens for that one colony but they seem to have this
safety in numbers kind of mentality and so if you decrease their numbers they're
more than likely going to accept that new European Queen as their new mom and I
wait five days so that they have no choice but you know my queen is their
new new queen and then sometimes they don't like that even she they allow her
to start laying eggs and then they try to supersede her right away I mean these
worker these worker African ice bees are pretty amazing I respect them 100% I
keep some of them I use them as donor hives they're fantastic they they brood
all the way through winter as long as you feed them they will make you more
and more worker bees there's no such thing as shutting down with these girls
so have you ever tried instead of introducing a new queen just put a
frame of brood that maybe has a queen cell on it does that work at all well so
if I took like a frame of brood from one of my European colonies yeah and gave
them only my frame of brood kind of thing to raise a queen they would do
that but the majority of the drones that that queen is you know that virgin
queen is going to emerge and have to go fly and mate with are going to be usually
African ice stock so which genetics are stronger from the queen or from the
drones oh so they claim and I'm not another php steady yes they claim that
the defensive behavior of a colony comes from the drone side but I'm not a
hundred percent on that so it sounds like that idea just wouldn't really solve
the problem yeah you need to introduce European Queens yes exactly okay so you
rehab a colony that way you keep them do you sell them what do you do with them
after that so I my niche is I teach I'm an educator I have beekeeping 101 I'm
a mentor I have students that range from brand new to 10 years in beekeeping and
I basically will resell the colonies to them I keep an average about a hundred
hives for myself but yeah that's my big thing I have donor high I keep I call it
donor hives I mean if you have a cat or dog that has an issue you take it into
the vet clinic and they have a donor animal to be able to draw blood from for
instance and I have that same thing where I have my donor colonies where if a
colony or two is having issues in a hobbyist's backyard I will go pull from
my colonies and take them frames to save them so it is a lot of work I mean
this is not something the average beekeeper makes a living doing I mean
it's kind of an odd you know niche that I've found but it is something I see as
a necessary new job for beekeepers across the nation I mean if you have
patience and ability experience to educate it is really an void that needs
filled I mean because you see commercial beekeepers dropping off a load of 200
nukes in an area and all these excited brand new one-time first first time you
know beekeepers run and grab those nucleus colonies and then you try to
reach the commercial beekeeper to say what do I do now I don't know what I'm
doing while he's too busy you know taking care of their 4,000 colonies to
answer a hobbyist with with all these issues and I found over the last decade
of teaching I have found that individuals learn differently so I have
people with PTSD I have people with ADHD I have people with glaucoma that can't
see and you might be frustrated because they're telling you one thing yet if
you actually go visit their colony you'll see something different they'll
say I have no brood I have no brood and you know and they've been beekeeping for
a year and you go into the colony and you're like going you have seven frames
of brood and you know and and you this this is honey this is brood but they
can't see so you have to find a way to teach in a different manner those people
the difference between a honey and a brood frame because even though the normal
person might pick it up their eyesight is not registering so you'll find that as
a mentor you will have these different students that require have different
needs and that's what I do so my bees go into the hands of my students so you
have a hundred colonies you do removals you teach you mentor sounds like you're
doing this full-time yes yes yes and sometimes at all hours I'm sure people
are curious a little bit about your business model where do you make the
money from is it mostly teaching or what no most of the money I would say
probably comes in from removals because they're Africanized bees and we have a
lot of expenses involved and you doing a cutout you have to have a level of
experience in order to do that cutout we charge for those so the homeowner pays a
fee for the removal you might hear on the internet the Africanized bees are
resistant to parasites and pathogens and that they're the ones you know they're
the survivor stock and woohoo but that's not what I'm seeing today in the
call the wild colonies so I am trying to pair up with some I actually am in in
the middle of talks right now to have Africanized testing on each colony that
I remove along with pathogen testing so that I can document what is going on in
the Africanized wild colonies because I'm not seeing all these hives be healthy
I'm seeing high might loads 16 mites in one drone cell is not a good thing for a
wild colony and we see that the Africanized colonies basically just
abscond when there's a high might load and they might be absconding in the
middle of November when there's no resources out there for them to rebuild
but they got to get away so all of this stuff as things that I want to document
either either in a book or on a website or somewhere to show what's happening
with our our feral colonies in the Southwest and so basically with all of
that we also are seeing a lot of the acute paralysis virus in these feral
colonies so we're looking for answers because I think it's something that an
environment that gives everything that the bees need nutritionally the bees
can then fight off low-dose pesticide parasites that kind of thing the
stronger they are the more they can fight that off think immune system and
we've had some really odd rainfall so with the lack of rains lack of forage
that kind of stuff I think that might be our answer as to why our feral colonies
are not doing as well but it's something that I'm working on so when you
remove a colony of these Africanized bees do you immediately do a mite check
I'm curious what they're like when they're new no I don't when I'm removing
them it is very invasive yeah cutting their comb apart I'm doing all these
things I do note if I visually see mites on the worker bees I do any drone
brood I don't keep like that's immediately thrown to my chickens right
nobody wants to raise more Africanized bees or promote the genetics in the in
the field so I don't keep the drone brood but I do open it so I will use one
of the honey scratching tools that hobbyists use to harvest honey I'll
actually use one of those tools to open my drone brood from these removals and
then I'll look to see how bad of a mite situation the colonies are having so
that's what I I have not been doing the mite count and but I'm thinking I
probably will start doing it I just don't like taking out 300 bees in order to
do a mite count when they're already going through a transition and had a
large loss to start with yeah they had their own PTSD yeah yeah tell me a
little bit more about your background because you mentioned to me when we
talked earlier you're a third-generation beekeeper how does that work yes so my
family started beekeeping in 1936 based out of Pennsylvania my grandfather he
actually I've got some really awesome photos of my dad as a baby and my
grandfather over in almond pollination and so it's something that's been in
the family for a long time my dad oldest of ten children he started do we
pollination services we did honey production and then he became he and my
mom became some of the top queen producers in the United States so I
come from a pretty strong family background I am one of the mixes so if
anybody has ever heard of Dave and Linda Mixa out of Florida though that's my
family so I'm the oldest of the siblings from the Mixa family so you have the
genetics here yes yes it's in the blood I like it one last thing before we wrap
up I'm curious what winter is like where you are I know it doesn't get all that
cold but is there a lot of forage for the bees what's it like so as you you know
most people know that they bees forage around 50 55 degrees and they head out
to try to find resources to bring back to the colony and yes we have those
temperatures almost on a daily basis during our winter and the bees find
nothing so they become very they become pests to local if they're in a
neighborhood or whatever I right now this morning I got three phone calls
from people's hummingbird feeders being attacked by my bees and people you know
they take home soda from the kids leaving sodas out and all this other
stuff and so yeah they forage but they don't have it so beekeepers in Southern
Arizona have to feed a lot because if they don't go into our winter with the
colony weighing around a hundred pounds total equipment and honey stores around
five frames of brood and around 25,000 bees then you have to feed in order to
get through winter because they're utilizing carbohydrates in order to go
do that forage that they're triggered to do by our warmer climate and then
they're bringing home nothing so that's basically the the magic numbers for
southern Arizona so it's really not in some ways not that different than being
in a cold climate as far as what they need to be prepared for winter the winter
is just different right because it's just dirt for a long time yes yes yep
our bees go out and work in it where yeah other bees just get to stay home and
we don't have to worry about all the mold like the northern climates you know
and and issues like that but we we have actual mite problems year round down
here because our bees a lot of times our queen bees won't even shut down for
winter because the temperatures stimulate the brood production it's not
uncommon for at least a fistful size of a brood to be in the colony year round
which means we're breeding mites year round yeah no brood break no brood
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lastly I want to hear some wild and crazy beekeeping stories that you have
personally experienced or witnessed and I say wild and crazy they can also be
embarrassing and painful okay so I had a really interesting removal that I did it
was a large colony that attached itself to a block wall in a residential
neighborhood using a tree limbs also and they were intertwined stuck on the
block wall and inside this tree and instead of it looking like a nice
straight comb it was more like catacomb and it was really an interesting
removal especially after I got the bees back and I use the Colorado bee vac as
my standard bee removal system and so the vacuum box was being emptied into a
deep and as soon as I dumped the bees out I found the queen immediately picked
her up and all the bees took off and left me and I'm holding the queen and
I'm going hello this is a cutout you know so I am right away I'm like going
here here's your mama yeah you're supposed to stay here hey sometimes you
know colonies will have two queens and it's not uncommon this can happen no
problem I'm like oh they have two queens and this one doesn't have the
pheromone necessary so I went and grabbed some more queen cages and for some
odd reason I pocketed three queen cases in my pocket and I needed all three of
them in a cutout there was four mated queens and I had never seen that before
so what to do what to do so I went ahead and put made up four nucleus colonies
and put the four queens and cages and four or five frame nucleus colonies and
then I dumped the bees I mean like I've dumped the bees because it the there was
probably around 30 40,000 bees and I thought hey this is great you know at
springtime I'm gonna make four out of this one and so I dumped them evenly
over top of all of the queens and the next morning when I went out they all
were trying to squeeze into one box so I contacted a friend of mine you know just
talking about the unique experience I said what what do you make from this
four mated queens in one quality you know one colony and you know we've always
heard of two possible three rare four what that what's going on with this and
he said the only thing I can think of is they were lesbians I don't know if you
can use that you might have to edit that part out I did not see that coming oh my
gosh okay anything crazy happened to you any weird crazy stings or anything like
that I cannot stress the importance of a really good quality suit enough I
really just can't I mean there's beekeeper error many times where people
don't zip the suit up completely correctly and stuff like that and you know
on occasion I've done I've done something silly like that too and had a you know a
breach I've got some students that firmly believe they can make their own bee
keeping suits and so I have to hand it to this one hobbyist brilliant the suit
looked fantastic I mean like probably spent three four days on it only to
realize that seven bees got into the veil part all at the same time and of
course opened the veil right in the middle of doing the inspection which the
hive had turned Africanized on her they had the whole the whole situation
actually it was already an Africanized hive if I remember correctly she was
doing everything backwards she was starting with a top bar hive and caught
a feral colony and made her own B suit after taking my beekeeping 101 class and
me trying to stress the importance of starting with a European colony and a
great quality suit so there's some situations where some people just have
to learn from themselves for through experience in order for that to stick so
I tell these stories and I only hope that people hear hear that you know don't
trust the Africanized colonies even though you might walk past them
constantly you might even visit open the colony up one day it just takes that one
day where they change and they are unpredictably defensive and I will leave
it with that was she okay did she get stings on her face she got stings in
her face she sent me pictures she said it was better than Botox but luckily she
was not allergic or had an allergic reaction and allergists say and the
medical profession tell me that 50 stings or more is when anybody should have to
worry you know at one time because that could do things to your heart and things
like that so I always recommend you know the same thing at my beekeeping classes
tell your doctor you have a hive and try to get an EpiPen prescription that's
like a number one thing that I also try to stress is very important yeah most
doctors are pretty good about that yes they are not as expensive as they used
to be right yep the EpiPens I'm a big believer in what you just said beginners
don't watch the videos on YouTube wear a big wear a suit head to toe if you can
yes yes the main thing is it will make you so much more relaxed if you feel
safe you can be relaxed you're just gonna have a much better experience with
the bees if you're relaxed yes and with that said that does remind me that I
want to do a bee removal on a second-story house by cutting through the
drywall of the boys bedroom it had a couple boys living in one bedroom and
one of the 14 year old son the oldest boy said mom you do not have to hire this
lady why pay her when I can do it I'll do it for free mom I've watched the lady
aunt I've watched the YouTube videos I can do it how many people show up in the
emergency room because of that it worries me a lot I I know I'm it does it
me too you know and I've heard it firsthand from the public I mean I just
really stress the importance of knowing not to oh yeah that's a whole nother
topic okay we won't get into that today Monica if anybody wants to find you where
do they get you you can reach out to me at Monica M King calm and I have a
YouTube channel at Kings Titan homestead all right and we'll have that website in
the show notes to Monica King thank you so much for being with me today it's been
fun thank you for having me it it has thank you now we're going all the way to
Toulouse France to hear about a really cool new beekeeping product from Damien
and hey just one quick word Damien is French he has a strong French accent you
will be able to understand him if you listen closely so give him a little bit
of grace and let's listen to Damien I'll be keeping the world actually use a
traditional smoker in my activity for me use a traditional smoker it's so
difficult for me it's difficult in first time to turn on correctly to keep it
lit yes yes we all run into that I have two other problems with traditional
smokers I've gotten better at lighting them and keeping them lit but if I'm
only getting into one or two hives well once it's going it wants to go for another
hour or something what do I do with it then the other thing that we have where
I am is we have fire danger in the summer and it makes me very nervous what if I
accidentally knocked over the smoker and it opened up and started to fire or
something so it's very old technology I mean as old as fire and beekeeping
basically so tell me what you've come up with yeah yes fire risk is very important
for me too for example in Seuss was French it's fire ban and it's forbidden to
use a smoker during a summer period because the visitation is so dry and the
risk of fire it's it's so much important for me it's it's it's a big risk and in
in so many parts in the world it's is a risk is very important too I know that
you have invented something we have overcomes this problem tell me what you
have invented yes for resolve this problem I have created one product is
Hapisolis and he work without combustion sometimes I said it's the first
smokeless smoker it's very easy to turn on and turn off and it work without
combustion it's a product for for beekeepers for me it's it's it's a
future of beekeeping this product it's not just a product safe it's very easier
to to use and with this product I say sometimes all have evolved in beekeeping
but except it's a traditional smoker it's a central tool in beekeeping it's for
me it's it's a bridge it's a bridge between beekeeper and bees when I use a
traditional smoker I have a good interaction with bees or not my answer
it's not when I use a traditional smoker I use a smock and smoke it toxic for
bees and toxic for me and I love bees and I want to have a better interaction
with bees when I want to create that I want to create a perfect bridge between a
beekeeper and the bees if I understand better the communication system
communication of bees I can make a better formulation for speak with bees in my
mind it's that I want to speak with bees at the end so communicating with the
bees I love that so how does your your aposolus vaporizer work you call it a
smokeless smoker does that mean you're not lighting anything on fire yes is
there smoke going across the bees or I mean you call it a vaporizer what kind
of vapor are the bees getting for makes a vapor I use the same technology like a
vape and I use propylene glycol it's safe for human and for bees I use two
active molecules already for each by bees and these two molecules you can find
this molecule in lavender and rose with this molecule we can reduce
significantly the aggression of the bees sounds like with lavender and rose it
probably even smells good yes for those that are listening it's difficult to
picture exactly what you've created but in the show notes we'll have a link to
your website I think it sounds really interesting I haven't used it yet I can't
wait to try it out thank you so much for joining us here on bee love bee keeping
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