WEBVTT 00:00:05.680 --> 00:00:09.419 Good Monday morning to you. Happy Monday. We're 00:00:09.419 --> 00:00:12.619 here. We're here. I was inspired by the Beard's 00:00:12.619 --> 00:00:16.519 Prayer before this. Yeah. We were the right people. 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:18.820 They might not know that. The Beard prays for 00:00:18.820 --> 00:00:23.579 every podcast he's been a part of. He prays for 00:00:23.579 --> 00:00:25.539 the podcast. Except when I jumped again a couple 00:00:25.539 --> 00:00:30.309 weeks ago. That was a rookie mistake. Yeah, I 00:00:30.309 --> 00:00:32.189 know. The hope is that we're the right people 00:00:32.189 --> 00:00:33.869 for the right job at this right moment. Right 00:00:33.869 --> 00:00:36.210 people for the right job for the right moment. 00:00:36.369 --> 00:00:38.490 I was very encouraged. And yeah, he asked God 00:00:38.490 --> 00:00:41.869 for that. I know. It's really good. May it be. 00:00:42.149 --> 00:00:46.770 Yeah. Welcome. Stoked. We took a two -week hiatus. 00:00:47.250 --> 00:00:50.609 Two weeks. Yeah. Where were we? I mean, I was 00:00:50.609 --> 00:00:55.060 here. I was here. Oh, wait, the beard was dove 00:00:55.060 --> 00:00:57.640 hunting. Yeah, there was dove hunting involved. 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:02.280 Oh, and the photo workshop. And it was Labor 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.819 Day, so you don't work on Labor Day. Yeah, I 00:01:04.819 --> 00:01:07.120 know. What's the holiday stand for? Oh, I have 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:08.799 no idea. I still don't know. I have no idea. 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:12.620 Celebration of labor. Is that what it is? I don't 00:01:12.620 --> 00:01:18.980 know. This week on the podcast, made up holidays. 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:23.209 Were you dove hunting? You had the photo thing, 00:01:23.329 --> 00:01:24.870 dove hunting the week before. Was that right? 00:01:25.250 --> 00:01:29.269 Yeah. Which he didn't come back with dove for 00:01:29.269 --> 00:01:31.129 us to cook. But he took a lot of shots. Yeah. 00:01:31.129 --> 00:01:34.569 He took a lot of, he was out there firing that 00:01:34.569 --> 00:01:38.150 gun. You know what? You want to have some fun? 00:01:38.269 --> 00:01:39.569 This is just for the, this is just for the church 00:01:39.569 --> 00:01:41.829 family that know Chris Taylor. Chris Taylor took 00:01:41.829 --> 00:01:46.430 his son out. Yeah. And he got seven and less 00:01:46.430 --> 00:01:50.640 shots than David. I know. So good. I don't know, 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.980 man. It's just a rough go. But having said that, 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:55.959 you still did way better than me because if I 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:58.920 was out there, I don't think I'm hitting anything 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:02.239 for... Neither am I. Yeah. It's all right. Probably 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:05.040 don't know how to fire the gun, honestly. That's 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:06.680 probably fair. Hey, I have a favorite phrase 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:08.860 from the weekend. That's not from your message. 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:13.199 Getting pecked by the seagulls. Oh, my gosh. 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:18.409 You're pathetic. Okay, sports for me was not 00:02:18.409 --> 00:02:20.310 good this weekend. I know. You had a rough go. 00:02:20.729 --> 00:02:24.629 Arsenal lose. They don't just lose. They got 00:02:24.629 --> 00:02:27.069 demolished. It was not a good look. Three nothing. 00:02:27.189 --> 00:02:28.949 Not a good look. To the Seagulls. That's where 00:02:28.949 --> 00:02:31.310 your little pick of the Seagulls comes from. 00:02:31.370 --> 00:02:35.569 So good. But Steelers lose, and it's not even 00:02:35.569 --> 00:02:38.389 close. 20 -3. I even picked your Steelers in 00:02:38.389 --> 00:02:40.270 our little family pick -em league, and that was 00:02:40.270 --> 00:02:43.250 a mistake. I picked the Pats. I knew the Pats 00:02:43.250 --> 00:02:45.240 were going to bounce back. I wanted the Steelers 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:47.240 to win. I would have been happy either way. Right? 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:49.159 Well, not really because I'm still bitter because 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:51.560 the Steelers lost. Yeah. Then I'm getting destroyed 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:53.919 in fantasy football. Yeah, you got. It was another 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.120 week. I just think it's time to. I do want to 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.000 shout out Todd. You lost to me by point three 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:03.860 points. Oh. Like really close. It came down to 00:03:03.860 --> 00:03:07.340 literally the last play with Mahomes. In overtime. 00:03:07.460 --> 00:03:09.919 In overtime. So not even in regular time. And 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:12.680 yeah. I mean, so essentially what I've decided 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:16.280 is. Patrick Mahomes is now named Patrick Mahomey. 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:19.599 Mahomey. Okay, I do have a complaint from the 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:24.479 weekend. Oh, yeah. Seattle fans, so Seahawks 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:28.800 fans, and Chief fans. By the way, just so you 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:31.340 know, Noah Johnson, our lovely youth intern, 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:35.360 he's a huge Seahawks fan. Huge. Went to the game. 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:38.699 Went to the game. I know. No, I know that. I 00:03:38.699 --> 00:03:40.080 wish the Cardinals would have won. All right. 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:42.840 Well, just for Noah's sake. Sorry I interrupted 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:45.879 you. So, no, coming up to me over the weekend 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:47.879 and going, hey, you're talking about football, 00:03:47.939 --> 00:03:50.120 but you didn't mention the Seahawks or the Chiefs. 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:53.430 Ooh. I'm sorry. Everybody else is mentioning 00:03:53.430 --> 00:03:56.289 them. The Cardinals won a game. I think we can 00:03:56.289 --> 00:03:58.770 give the Cardinals their props for one weekend. 00:03:58.830 --> 00:04:00.710 But no, not if you're a Chiefs or a Seahawks. 00:04:00.870 --> 00:04:03.710 Why aren't we talking about us? I do think. I 00:04:03.710 --> 00:04:05.870 mean, is it just me or is everybody over the 00:04:05.870 --> 00:04:08.310 Seahawks and the Chiefs at this point? Well, 00:04:08.330 --> 00:04:10.090 the Seahawks need to get their licks in because 00:04:10.090 --> 00:04:12.090 everybody was talking about the Rams preseason. 00:04:12.430 --> 00:04:14.710 It's almost as if the Seahawks won the Super 00:04:14.710 --> 00:04:16.990 Bowl and it was like, yeah, that's great. Let's 00:04:16.990 --> 00:04:20.149 talk about the Rams. So I can understand from 00:04:20.149 --> 00:04:22.709 a Seahawks perspective. Let's be honest. If the 00:04:22.709 --> 00:04:24.449 Cowboys had won the Super Bowl the year before, 00:04:24.589 --> 00:04:27.189 I would only be talking about it for the next 00:04:27.189 --> 00:04:32.850 five years. So I can resonate. And I will say... 00:04:32.850 --> 00:04:35.209 You are a Liverpool fan. Well, yeah. This does 00:04:35.209 --> 00:04:38.610 happen. I still talk about our Premier League 00:04:38.610 --> 00:04:43.300 title. Yeah, even though... We are champions 00:04:43.300 --> 00:04:45.660 of England. We know who we are. That's how the 00:04:45.660 --> 00:04:47.319 song goes. It's the wrong red. That's how the 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:49.120 song goes. You know what is interesting with 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:53.560 football, though, is I think the Seahawks made 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:59.519 a major mistake letting Walker go. He looks incredible 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:03.100 as a chief, which hurts my soul because chiefs 00:05:03.100 --> 00:05:04.560 don't need anything else. You know what else 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:06.399 hurts my soul? Man, I'm just on a rant right 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:08.600 now. We'll just rant. This is also like our sports 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:14.300 talk hour. We'll just rant. Taylor Swift pointing 00:05:14.300 --> 00:05:17.639 to her ring. That's my husband when he scores 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:21.480 a touchdown. You don't like that? No. Why? Who 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:23.959 cares? We know you got married. Congratulations. 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:27.680 John, I care. It's important to me. You don't. 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:30.399 You don't. Oh, yeah. You don't. I've been with 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:34.379 Taylor Swift through it all. You know? From her 00:05:34.379 --> 00:05:39.009 country days all the way to... Whatever married 00:05:39.009 --> 00:05:42.110 era she's in right now. You're as bad as Caleb. 00:05:42.149 --> 00:05:45.230 We're at Starbucks the other day. And we had 00:05:45.230 --> 00:05:47.170 our weekend team meeting. We're sitting outside. 00:05:48.410 --> 00:05:50.970 And they're playing Taylor Swift. And they're 00:05:50.970 --> 00:05:53.589 just bouncing through the... Oh, yeah. The eras. 00:05:53.629 --> 00:05:58.110 Yes. All of them. And Caleb is giving a narrative 00:05:58.110 --> 00:06:00.629 on which music is better from when... He can't 00:06:00.629 --> 00:06:02.490 even concentrate on what we're doing because... 00:06:02.490 --> 00:06:04.850 Well, yeah. Caleb and I have conversations about 00:06:04.850 --> 00:06:07.439 Taylor Swift. She's... It's a fascinating narrative 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:11.759 arc. You don't want to join in on that? No. I 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:13.819 just want her to not be in football anymore. 00:06:14.019 --> 00:06:16.860 Can we do that? She does get an inordinate amount 00:06:16.860 --> 00:06:20.100 of time on screen for being somebody in the stands. 00:06:20.100 --> 00:06:22.199 I think we just need Travis Kelsey to retire. 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:25.399 He had a good... Never mind. We'll keep... Yeah, 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:27.939 he had a good... He's playing against me. Yeah. 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:32.279 Anyways, we're done. Yeah, so the weekend happened. 00:06:32.579 --> 00:06:34.600 Weekend happened. Football tonight. Who you got? 00:06:36.810 --> 00:06:40.149 I don't know. I think it would be fun to see 00:06:40.149 --> 00:06:45.810 the Giants. Okay. Watching Scataboo and Dart, 00:06:45.990 --> 00:06:48.889 they're just frat boys out there. They're just 00:06:48.889 --> 00:06:51.310 having fun. They're making fun of the NFL. I 00:06:51.310 --> 00:06:54.649 forget that Jackson Dart did not go to ASU because 00:06:54.649 --> 00:06:57.910 I grouped them together. They're one and the 00:06:57.910 --> 00:07:00.350 same. But they're just enjoying their football. 00:07:01.620 --> 00:07:03.939 It's fun to watch. It is fun to watch. Even though 00:07:03.939 --> 00:07:06.160 it's the Giants. I know, the Giants. You've got 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:08.959 a whole thing with them. Yeah, it's rough. I 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:10.139 don't know. It would be fun to see the Giants 00:07:10.139 --> 00:07:13.759 actually do well. Yeah. Against that game. But 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:17.319 we'll see. So the weekend happened. Weekend happened. 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:19.740 It was amazing. We've been in a collection. It 00:07:19.740 --> 00:07:22.759 was a great weekend. Yeah. Called Step Into the 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:28.100 Ring. Step Into the Ring. Yeah. We've had a podcast 00:07:28.100 --> 00:07:30.319 since we started this collection, correct? Yes. 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.699 Okay. Maybe for people who are just joining or 00:07:33.699 --> 00:07:35.639 have forgotten or maybe haven't seen the weekend 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:39.079 yet, you want to just recap what it is we're 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:42.839 doing in stepping into the ring? Yeah. So the 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:44.860 idea is fight for meaning, right? That we're 00:07:44.860 --> 00:07:46.720 all in a fight for meaning. Every human on the 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:49.560 planet is in the same fight. And Ecclesiastes 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:54.699 documents that well. Yeah. And the fight for 00:07:54.699 --> 00:07:57.120 meaning, like week one, we kind of set up the 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:02.279 four rounds of it. And within that, Ecclesiastes 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:04.339 kind of touches on those nerves the whole way 00:08:04.339 --> 00:08:08.779 through. So the idea is not only are you in a 00:08:08.779 --> 00:08:10.339 fight for meaning, but you're in a fight for 00:08:10.339 --> 00:08:13.740 meaning in this time and place. So you're going 00:08:13.740 --> 00:08:17.300 to fight within the realm of your life in the 00:08:17.300 --> 00:08:19.319 space that God's put you in the circumstances 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:22.420 he's put you. While the fight is similar for 00:08:22.420 --> 00:08:25.209 everybody. Yes. the way you try and define that 00:08:25.209 --> 00:08:27.269 is going to be unique to your time and place, 00:08:27.290 --> 00:08:29.810 right? And so that's kind of the picture we've 00:08:29.810 --> 00:08:32.029 used of the boxing ring on the tree stump. Yes. 00:08:32.289 --> 00:08:35.330 And then kind of tree stump represents time and 00:08:35.330 --> 00:08:37.690 place. Ring represents fight. Yep. And so hopefully 00:08:37.690 --> 00:08:39.590 people remember, man, I'm in a fight today. Yeah. 00:08:39.610 --> 00:08:42.289 I'm in a fight. My natural tendency is going 00:08:42.289 --> 00:08:45.730 to be to define meaning from this life by something 00:08:45.730 --> 00:08:49.539 tangible in front of me. Right. That. I'm going 00:08:49.539 --> 00:08:51.639 to try and grab and hold on to like football, 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:53.559 right? We joke about football, but there are 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:55.639 people that football is life. That is right. 00:08:55.779 --> 00:08:59.679 I lived in, lived in Wisconsin for a while and 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:02.019 there was a house that was known as the green 00:09:02.019 --> 00:09:04.879 Bay house. Okay. And it was because it was painted 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:06.419 in the green Bay colors. Oh, you're kidding. 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:09.759 And they had a flag out front and you knew on 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:11.980 the way home from church, if the Packers had 00:09:11.980 --> 00:09:14.860 done well or not, or the next day, because the 00:09:14.860 --> 00:09:18.669 flag would be at half mast. Right. But the town 00:09:18.669 --> 00:09:22.470 reminds me of soccer towns in England where for 00:09:22.470 --> 00:09:25.149 the next week or until they play again, there's 00:09:25.149 --> 00:09:27.470 a depression that sets in if they're not doing 00:09:27.470 --> 00:09:31.730 well. Have you seen the recent videos that have 00:09:31.730 --> 00:09:34.190 come out of Tottenham Hotspur and their stadium 00:09:34.190 --> 00:09:37.549 and how quiet it's been? This is exactly what 00:09:37.549 --> 00:09:39.690 you're talking about. You roll into that stadium. 00:09:39.809 --> 00:09:44.090 There is no joy. There is no happiness. It's 00:09:44.090 --> 00:09:48.740 abysmal in there. Life is hard, and so I'm ascribing 00:09:48.740 --> 00:09:51.620 some kind of joy, happiness, meaning. I'm trying 00:09:51.620 --> 00:09:53.840 to get something more from this thing called 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:55.820 soccer, football, whatever it happens to be, 00:09:55.879 --> 00:09:57.720 right? And that's what Ecclesiastes is getting 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:00.919 at. It's not there. So you can try, and his picture 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:04.100 the whole time is like grasping smoke, only to 00:10:04.100 --> 00:10:06.919 grip it tighter and it's gone. So, yeah, I mean, 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.860 that collection we're in is just, okay, so how 00:10:09.860 --> 00:10:12.120 are we doing that? We went through, we didn't 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:14.799 talk about last week, but last week he really 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:19.690 lays out, What I believe to be the counter argument, 00:10:20.049 --> 00:10:24.529 right? Like if he's sitting with one of the frat 00:10:24.529 --> 00:10:27.769 boys, right? The frat boys are going, well, fame 00:10:27.769 --> 00:10:30.909 will solve this. Right. It'll give me an answer 00:10:30.909 --> 00:10:34.370 to this life. To be at the top of my whatever. 00:10:34.669 --> 00:10:38.129 Yeah. And he gets to the top of his, and he goes, 00:10:38.269 --> 00:10:40.370 that's not there. I was better known than all 00:10:40.370 --> 00:10:42.190 the kings that have ever been. Yes. And he goes, 00:10:42.190 --> 00:10:45.480 it's not there. Or. You hear the frat boys go, 00:10:45.580 --> 00:10:47.700 well, if I get the big enough contract, that 00:10:47.700 --> 00:10:49.779 money will secure me for the rest of my life. 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:51.539 He goes, well, I've amassed gold and silver more 00:10:51.539 --> 00:10:54.580 than anybody else before me. And it's not there. 00:10:54.980 --> 00:10:57.580 Well, you don't know. You just got to go to the 00:10:57.580 --> 00:10:59.620 right parties with the right people, have the 00:10:59.620 --> 00:11:02.179 right experiences. And he goes, I've done all 00:11:02.179 --> 00:11:05.559 that. And it's not there. So last week, he really 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.820 kind of drilled into all the counter arguments 00:11:07.820 --> 00:11:11.000 that. We would flippantly go, well, you haven't 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:12.440 tried this. You haven't tried this. You didn't 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:13.899 get the car. You didn't get the house. He goes, 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.759 I got those. Right. Right. You didn't invent 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:18.779 something. He invents a waterway that hasn't 00:11:18.779 --> 00:11:21.100 been done before. Right. So anyways, all that 00:11:21.100 --> 00:11:24.559 say, like, it's kind of been working through 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:29.139 to this week then where his last kind of aha 00:11:29.139 --> 00:11:33.899 is wisdom. And then from wisdom, he also realizes 00:11:33.899 --> 00:11:36.019 there's no advantage because something else is 00:11:36.019 --> 00:11:39.039 framing it. Yes, and I think that was a huge 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.159 takeaway for me this weekend was kind of the 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:45.039 imagery you used to break down specifically, 00:11:45.179 --> 00:11:50.759 I think it was 2 .17 and onward, was talking 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:54.960 about how life is framed by death. And so kind 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:56.600 of that image of like if you were to look at 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:59.039 a painting, you're to look at the frame, often 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:01.320 it's drawing attention to what is going on in 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:03.779 the middle, but we're finding meaning from the 00:12:03.779 --> 00:12:06.370 frame. That informs the middle. How did you come 00:12:06.370 --> 00:12:10.970 to that? What was that process like? Well, I 00:12:10.970 --> 00:12:13.850 mean, it's like any message, right? It's on your 00:12:13.850 --> 00:12:16.870 mind. God's showing you stuff, bringing you stuff, 00:12:16.950 --> 00:12:20.350 working through stuff. Teaching team is a huge 00:12:20.350 --> 00:12:23.389 part of that this week. In fact, I mentioned, 00:12:23.549 --> 00:12:25.309 I don't know if I did it Saturday night, but 00:12:25.309 --> 00:12:28.269 I know I mentioned on Sunday morning, like at 00:12:28.269 --> 00:12:32.940 least four conversations were. And I would even 00:12:32.940 --> 00:12:36.000 go four of those points are from those conversations, 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.240 right? So they essentially were birthed with 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:41.940 somebody else through somebody else. And then 00:12:41.940 --> 00:12:45.779 obviously God morphs it into a cohesive message. 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:49.399 So yeah, I think there was that piece of it. 00:12:49.460 --> 00:12:56.820 The frame came later. So I would say the conversation 00:12:56.820 --> 00:12:59.279 was all happening of what's in those verses, 00:12:59.419 --> 00:13:04.500 right? But there was no cohesion to like, well, 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:08.620 why? Because he mentions control, right? So, 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:12.139 well, why control? Why doesn't that? Why is he 00:13:12.139 --> 00:13:15.559 frustrated by work? Why is he? Well, what it 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:18.740 said right before that was death. And that's 00:13:18.740 --> 00:13:20.779 where the, oh, wait a minute. This is framing 00:13:20.779 --> 00:13:25.019 up what he's saying next. And so that's kind 00:13:25.019 --> 00:13:27.669 of where it popped. And then from there it. And 00:13:27.669 --> 00:13:29.210 then, I mean, it's just the way God does stuff. 00:13:29.269 --> 00:13:32.590 I'm working out Friday morning and I'm listening 00:13:32.590 --> 00:13:34.809 to another preacher and he has an illustration 00:13:34.809 --> 00:13:37.049 on a puzzle. And I literally, in the middle of 00:13:37.049 --> 00:13:40.950 my workout, well, my heart rates, God knows what, 00:13:41.029 --> 00:13:45.490 I'm putting into my notes the intro of the puzzle 00:13:45.490 --> 00:13:48.889 because, well, it didn't go the same direction 00:13:48.889 --> 00:13:52.850 as his. The thought of a puzzle created a frame 00:13:52.850 --> 00:13:55.190 in my mind, right? Because he was saying that 00:13:55.190 --> 00:13:58.190 he starts puzzles from the middle versus starting 00:13:58.190 --> 00:14:00.789 with the border. And so he likes the middle to 00:14:00.789 --> 00:14:02.870 work its way out and identify it. And I was like, 00:14:02.909 --> 00:14:05.049 that's not how life works. Life works from the 00:14:05.049 --> 00:14:07.929 edge, right? And so what are those parameters 00:14:07.929 --> 00:14:09.990 that are in place? And so that's where the actual 00:14:09.990 --> 00:14:12.370 frame came from. Cindy was giving me a hard time 00:14:12.370 --> 00:14:16.340 because each gathering, it kept growing. And 00:14:16.340 --> 00:14:18.659 so at first it was just, she's a ninja. Yeah. 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:21.340 And I think the nine 30 was she's in the dark 00:14:21.340 --> 00:14:25.259 arts of something. She's like, really? Like we're 00:14:25.259 --> 00:14:28.240 going, she's like, I'm not that obsessed. This 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.080 is, this is what we're focusing on. Yeah. It's 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:34.059 so good. No. And I think too, what you're demonstrating 00:14:34.059 --> 00:14:36.740 kind of, there's two things I think that I see 00:14:36.740 --> 00:14:40.019 you just to comment on your method. I think it's, 00:14:40.019 --> 00:14:44.659 it's fascinating to see how the week frame frames 00:14:44.659 --> 00:14:47.360 up. how the week kind of prepares you for the 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:50.460 weekend. Like there's not this, I think there 00:14:50.460 --> 00:14:54.580 can be a perspective or a, I don't know, people 00:14:54.580 --> 00:14:57.620 just assume you go into a hidey hole and it's 00:14:57.620 --> 00:14:59.759 just you and the Bible. A hidey hole. You like 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:01.980 that? A hidey hole. You ever heard that before? 00:15:02.379 --> 00:15:05.399 No. Beard hasn't. I mean, he's shaking his head, 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.379 but I feel like it's such a great descriptor. 00:15:09.179 --> 00:15:11.200 But there's this perspective that you go into 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.179 your hidey hole with you and the Bible and it's 00:15:13.179 --> 00:15:16.230 just kind of a... a very isolating conversation. 00:15:16.970 --> 00:15:20.029 Whereas in reality, what's happening is that 00:15:20.029 --> 00:15:22.629 God is using moments throughout the week to form 00:15:22.629 --> 00:15:25.309 and to shape what's coming out on Saturday night 00:15:25.309 --> 00:15:27.370 and Sunday morning. And part of that is that 00:15:27.370 --> 00:15:30.409 collective conversation happening at teaching 00:15:30.409 --> 00:15:32.970 team. For people that maybe don't know about 00:15:32.970 --> 00:15:36.090 teaching team, how did that start? Because that's 00:15:36.090 --> 00:15:40.169 a pretty important rhythm as a staff family. 00:15:40.230 --> 00:15:43.149 That's happening every week, regardless of who's 00:15:43.149 --> 00:15:47.860 up. And so how did that become a value to our 00:15:47.860 --> 00:15:51.899 weekly rhythm? Yeah. I would go a step back before 00:15:51.899 --> 00:15:57.899 we go there. Yeah. I think it's any message that 00:15:57.899 --> 00:16:00.379 is given on a weekend is for community. Yeah. 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:04.059 And the community should shape. I don't think 00:16:04.059 --> 00:16:13.570 there's anyone that should show up. I say anyone. 00:16:13.750 --> 00:16:16.490 Like there's obviously moments this happens. 00:16:18.129 --> 00:16:21.929 But to show up and go, I'm the only person that 00:16:21.929 --> 00:16:24.250 has a word for this group of people, for this 00:16:24.250 --> 00:16:27.990 weekend, for this. Like for me, that's so short 00:16:27.990 --> 00:16:29.909 -sighted because we would encourage anybody, 00:16:30.009 --> 00:16:34.389 interpret the Bible in community. So what happens 00:16:34.389 --> 00:16:37.090 on a Tuesday at teaching team is the Bible being. 00:16:37.899 --> 00:16:39.700 And a lot of times, I mean, even in there, a 00:16:39.700 --> 00:16:41.879 lot of times it's not a baked message. A lot 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:44.419 of times it's, man, this is what the Lord's stirring. 00:16:44.740 --> 00:16:47.919 Right. And sometimes in that room, he stirs through 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.279 everybody. Like last week was a robust conversation. 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:53.720 In fact, Ecclesiastes, all of them have been. 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:59.259 Right. And this week, a large percentage was 00:16:59.259 --> 00:17:03.889 a part of it. The week before, 10%. So you've 00:17:03.889 --> 00:17:07.210 got 90 % that was just cut and never made it 00:17:07.210 --> 00:17:10.829 into. But the interpretation of it in community 00:17:10.829 --> 00:17:14.130 is the way God intended it to be. And so I think 00:17:14.130 --> 00:17:16.930 that's the value. Years and years ago when I 00:17:16.930 --> 00:17:18.690 first got to the church, they had a teaching 00:17:18.690 --> 00:17:25.509 team. This is a hot take. Actually, I'm not going 00:17:25.509 --> 00:17:27.369 to say it because we're unedited. I don't think 00:17:27.369 --> 00:17:32.019 it's kind and I want to be kind. There's a teaching 00:17:32.019 --> 00:17:34.940 team and you went in and you gave your baked 00:17:34.940 --> 00:17:38.920 message. Okay. So I'm essentially preaching my 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:42.079 message to a room full of people. So this true 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:44.319 story that happened to me. Yeah. You went in 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:47.359 on a Thursday morning. It's like 6 a .m. Whoa. 00:17:47.460 --> 00:17:50.440 And it was at Robert Donaldson's dentistry office. 00:17:50.779 --> 00:17:55.269 Oh, wow. And if you ask Robert, like. He didn't 00:17:55.269 --> 00:17:56.970 put a whole lot of attention into his waiting 00:17:56.970 --> 00:18:01.670 room. He'll probably say he did, but it felt 00:18:01.670 --> 00:18:05.509 like a doctor's office, right? So you're sitting 00:18:05.509 --> 00:18:08.069 there and you give your whole message as if you're 00:18:08.069 --> 00:18:11.329 giving it on the weekend. I went in on a Thursday 00:18:11.329 --> 00:18:14.950 once. I was speaking on the book of Jude, and 00:18:14.950 --> 00:18:18.930 they basically told me that's not it. You need 00:18:18.930 --> 00:18:23.930 to figure this out. You're missing. Well, that's 00:18:23.930 --> 00:18:26.940 Thursday. And I'm a young communicator and we're 00:18:26.940 --> 00:18:29.059 going live on, I think we had Saturday night 00:18:29.059 --> 00:18:32.680 at that point. I don't remember. So that's what 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:35.519 it was. Yeah. Well, I hated that. I hated that 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:37.559 I was coming with something that was baked and 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:42.319 done. Yes. And you are going to give me like 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:44.960 either a thumbs up or a thumbs down. Right. So 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:48.539 for me, teaching team in that format, the value 00:18:48.539 --> 00:18:51.420 wasn't there. The value was hearing, oh, that 00:18:51.420 --> 00:18:54.609 hit you. Yeah. That landed with you. That made 00:18:54.609 --> 00:18:57.910 sense to you. You would challenge this point 00:18:57.910 --> 00:18:59.430 because you don't think it's going far enough. 00:18:59.589 --> 00:19:02.470 That was where, for me, the value really held. 00:19:03.490 --> 00:19:05.750 Fast forward to where we are now, that's really 00:19:05.750 --> 00:19:08.309 what it is. The opportunity for any staff member 00:19:08.309 --> 00:19:12.069 to come and sit in that room. I mean, we've got 00:19:12.069 --> 00:19:14.670 interns, apprentices, we've got pastors, and 00:19:14.670 --> 00:19:17.660 everything in between, right? That you can come 00:19:17.660 --> 00:19:20.660 and have a voice into what God is shaping for 00:19:20.660 --> 00:19:23.240 the weekend because it's for his people, and 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:25.180 he's going to use his people for his people. 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:29.440 I just happen to be the guy on a somewhat regular 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:32.299 basis that gets to stand up and use a gift of 00:19:32.299 --> 00:19:35.160 communication that God's given me. to project 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:36.920 a message that he's baked through his people 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:39.079 for his people. And so I think that's the value 00:19:39.079 --> 00:19:41.880 of teaching team is it, it really is a walk in 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:43.859 community before it ever makes it to the weekend. 00:19:43.940 --> 00:19:46.279 Yeah. Which is, I think it's just such a fascinating, 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:48.440 cause it is true. Like if you were to look at 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:51.799 this last week in particular, what you had going 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:55.259 into teaching team, I mean, 90 % of that didn't 00:19:55.259 --> 00:19:59.359 make the weekend. And I, you know, there are 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:01.339 some people who will say your best message was 00:20:01.339 --> 00:20:03.339 on the cutting room floor or whatever, like that. 00:20:03.630 --> 00:20:05.589 whole perspective and you know there might be 00:20:05.589 --> 00:20:08.329 some truth to that right but i i know from this 00:20:08.329 --> 00:20:11.430 weekend like that was what you gave was exactly 00:20:11.430 --> 00:20:14.289 what was needed yeah um and it was true to the 00:20:14.289 --> 00:20:16.890 passage right like like if i would have gone 00:20:16.890 --> 00:20:19.690 with what i went into so so for those listening 00:20:19.690 --> 00:20:23.869 that weren't there uh i started with um the great 00:20:23.869 --> 00:20:26.970 wealth transfer that's happening that's estimated 00:20:26.970 --> 00:20:30.819 and the numbers are really broad, but $36 trillion 00:20:30.819 --> 00:20:35.019 to $154 trillion will be transferred from boomers 00:20:35.019 --> 00:20:38.279 to other generations. Wow. That's never happened 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:40.839 before. So we're sitting in something historical, 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:45.440 and it's going to change our culture. define 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:47.579 what work is and define. So I thought I was going 00:20:47.579 --> 00:20:50.619 to run the lane of wealth and inheritance and, 00:20:50.819 --> 00:20:54.160 um, even to, Hey, when you start a business and 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:56.640 you hand it over, like there's, this is, this 00:20:56.640 --> 00:20:58.960 is common that you would have three years and 00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:00.859 that business will be gone. And because there's 00:21:00.859 --> 00:21:02.539 a builder and there's a protector and there's 00:21:02.539 --> 00:21:04.779 an inheritor and the inheritor doesn't know the 00:21:04.779 --> 00:21:06.519 builder and the sweat, blood and tears, you know, 00:21:06.539 --> 00:21:09.799 like doesn't value it the same. So I thought 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.400 it was going to lean heavily into that direction. 00:21:12.500 --> 00:21:16.869 Yeah. Um, And then to see where God took it was, 00:21:16.930 --> 00:21:19.950 was very different. Now I don't think any of 00:21:19.950 --> 00:21:21.890 that is bad or doesn't need to be said at some 00:21:21.890 --> 00:21:24.130 point. It's just not this weekend. Right. Yeah. 00:21:24.190 --> 00:21:28.109 Cause context matters. And yeah. And that's what 00:21:28.109 --> 00:21:30.150 is so important about the weekend is it's, it's 00:21:30.150 --> 00:21:34.410 one weekend and what, what is given as a message 00:21:34.410 --> 00:21:36.289 is we open the scriptures together. Like that's, 00:21:36.289 --> 00:21:39.150 that is what God has chosen in that particular 00:21:39.150 --> 00:21:42.349 moment to reveal himself through. And so, yeah, 00:21:42.430 --> 00:21:45.220 I just, I, I know for me, being on the inside 00:21:45.220 --> 00:21:48.640 of it and seeing your process through the week, 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:53.019 I mean, it's a fascinating, it just, it bucks 00:21:53.019 --> 00:21:56.819 a lot of like mindsets and perspectives. So John 00:21:56.819 --> 00:21:59.619 Rocha, who led worship in Prescott this weekend, 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:03.240 it was before the eight o 'clock and I was doing 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:05.900 my final prep before the eight o 'clock and I'm 00:22:05.900 --> 00:22:09.700 reading the verses again and the phrase, what 00:22:09.700 --> 00:22:13.799 was it? there's a phrase that jumped out to me. 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:17.299 And I was like, I don't know what that means. 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:20.640 And so I go in, get my laptop out, and I'm on 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:23.000 Logos, which is our Bible software. And John 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:25.460 comes up, he goes, oh, this gives confidence. 00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:29.619 You're in here on your... But that is the nature 00:22:29.619 --> 00:22:33.140 of the messages. They're not baked. And the people 00:22:33.140 --> 00:22:36.440 in the room, the Holy Spirit has to speak to 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:38.119 the people in the room. So if there was something 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:40.640 there... That the Holy Spirit needed to grab 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:43.460 three minutes before I'm about to. Right. Well, 00:22:43.579 --> 00:22:45.819 okay. That's what it's supposed to be. It's alive 00:22:45.819 --> 00:22:49.740 and breathing and moving. And it's unique to 00:22:49.740 --> 00:22:52.799 the 8 o 'clock gathering is unique from the 930. 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:55.420 Yeah. It's unique from Saturday night in PV and 00:22:55.420 --> 00:22:58.500 930 in PV. Yeah. And 1115 in Presbyterian. Like 00:22:58.500 --> 00:23:01.880 they're all Baghdad and Paulding. And that's 00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:05.450 where I think. And everybody's got their own 00:23:05.450 --> 00:23:07.569 prep method. I'm not saying that this is right 00:23:07.569 --> 00:23:08.990 and everybody's wrong. I'm not saying that at 00:23:08.990 --> 00:23:11.549 all. But what I am saying is when I walk in and 00:23:11.549 --> 00:23:13.329 go, this is what it's got to be and I'm rigid, 00:23:13.509 --> 00:23:16.829 I think we have to leave room for the Holy Spirit 00:23:16.829 --> 00:23:21.630 to work. I mean, I know for me, I've been in 00:23:21.630 --> 00:23:25.230 seven different preaching courses in my time. 00:23:25.710 --> 00:23:27.829 And every single one of them was different. But 00:23:27.829 --> 00:23:30.450 the unifying thread through all of them was you 00:23:30.450 --> 00:23:32.730 would present your baked message to the group. 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:36.599 and they would eviscerate it. And it's traumatic. 00:23:36.940 --> 00:23:40.740 I don't know. I mean, maybe that's an overstatement, 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:44.299 but I stopped after the fourth one caring, but 00:23:44.299 --> 00:23:47.779 you go into that and it really, it's a part of 00:23:47.779 --> 00:23:51.960 you. And for me, I have such a fear of rejection. 00:23:52.180 --> 00:23:55.099 And so when you present part of yourself to your 00:23:55.099 --> 00:23:57.539 peers and also the professor who's supposed to 00:23:57.539 --> 00:24:01.480 know better, and you get eviscerated. It's no 00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:04.759 fun. It will. And it's, it's subjective rejection. 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:07.440 Oh yeah. Right. Like it's, it's based on their 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.859 opinion. Yeah. And too much of the comments were 00:24:10.859 --> 00:24:12.740 like, Oh, you pace a little bit. I don't know 00:24:12.740 --> 00:24:14.519 why you lifted your right hand. They would have 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:18.039 loved me. Oh my gosh. So true story from, from 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:21.180 back in the day at college, we have this teaching 00:24:21.180 --> 00:24:28.079 course and the, the professor, his, his. yeah 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:30.960 like great on my paper was never dye your hair 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.920 again people won't listen to you but you got 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:37.940 an a like literally that that that's your comment 00:24:37.940 --> 00:24:42.119 so i dyed my hair for the next decade it's amazing 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.299 so don't dye your hair again yeah and then god 00:24:45.299 --> 00:24:48.880 dyed it gray so great yeah man yeah but i think 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:51.819 but that's it right like like when you open it 00:24:51.819 --> 00:24:56.250 up for that yeah people will Only view it through 00:24:56.250 --> 00:24:59.630 the lens that they can of what's subjective to 00:24:59.630 --> 00:25:03.130 them versus when you invite them into the conversation. 00:25:03.250 --> 00:25:05.990 Right. Right. And you go, hey, would you help 00:25:05.990 --> 00:25:10.390 make something not even better? I don't think 00:25:10.390 --> 00:25:13.390 the word is better. Make something carry a deeper 00:25:13.390 --> 00:25:15.789 sense of soul meaning for the people God will 00:25:15.789 --> 00:25:18.849 have there. Yeah. And you've been in teaching 00:25:18.849 --> 00:25:20.990 teams. Sometimes it's four of us. Sometimes, 00:25:21.369 --> 00:25:23.970 like this past week, the room is packed. And 00:25:23.970 --> 00:25:27.529 you're like, okay, God, however you're doing 00:25:27.529 --> 00:25:30.009 it and baking it for the weekend, it's in your 00:25:30.009 --> 00:25:34.950 hands and we're going to follow it. Yeah, it's 00:25:34.950 --> 00:25:37.450 super fun to watch. I think one of the things 00:25:37.450 --> 00:25:40.589 that struck me from this weekend that you actually 00:25:40.589 --> 00:25:43.549 used from teaching team was you used Pastor Ben's 00:25:43.549 --> 00:25:47.230 ownership versus stewardship distinction. to 00:25:47.230 --> 00:25:51.250 talk about work. We need to unpack that because 00:25:51.250 --> 00:25:55.630 it is such a, it's easily remember, rememberable. 00:25:56.210 --> 00:25:58.809 And like, I feel like I've been ruminating on 00:25:58.809 --> 00:26:02.750 that for the entire weekend. So I guess for the 00:26:02.750 --> 00:26:04.990 people that maybe haven't seen it yet, lay out 00:26:04.990 --> 00:26:07.230 the distinction. What's being communicated by 00:26:07.230 --> 00:26:09.869 this in the context of work? Yeah, it came from, 00:26:09.910 --> 00:26:12.170 Pastor Ben's mentioned it multiple, he may have 00:26:12.170 --> 00:26:14.160 even put it in a message. I don't remember. He's 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:15.500 definitely done it in giving a couple times. 00:26:15.660 --> 00:26:18.500 Yeah. I've heard him, yeah, multiple spaces talk 00:26:18.500 --> 00:26:20.619 about it. But it comes from Hobby Lobby, and 00:26:20.619 --> 00:26:24.819 it comes from David Green, who is, if I've got 00:26:24.819 --> 00:26:27.079 my story right, he's the owner of Hobby Lobby. 00:26:27.099 --> 00:26:30.440 Right. And Hobby Lobby gives away 50 % of their 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.940 profits. Wow. And, I mean, that's just unheard 00:26:33.940 --> 00:26:36.579 of. Yeah. Right? And you're closed on a day and 00:26:36.579 --> 00:26:39.019 all that stuff. So naturally, the world is curious. 00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:42.609 What in the world? How did you get here? What 00:26:42.609 --> 00:26:44.789 are you doing? What is the guiding principle 00:26:44.789 --> 00:26:47.670 of why you do what you do? Yep. To which his 00:26:47.670 --> 00:26:53.470 answer has been, it's easy when you figure out 00:26:53.470 --> 00:26:56.670 that you're not the owner, that you're just a 00:26:56.670 --> 00:26:59.730 steward. It's easy to give somebody else's stuff 00:26:59.730 --> 00:27:01.970 away. Yeah. Right? Like if I'm just stewarding 00:27:01.970 --> 00:27:04.910 it, it's not mine. Yeah. And he sees, excuse 00:27:04.910 --> 00:27:08.690 me, he sees himself as a steward. So it's not 00:27:08.690 --> 00:27:13.089 his. Yeah. So ownership says this is mine. Stewardship 00:27:13.089 --> 00:27:18.710 says this is his. And so the framework of what 00:27:18.710 --> 00:27:21.549 it – and this is where I went this weekend is 00:27:21.549 --> 00:27:25.589 the struggle to me is when my hands are closed 00:27:25.589 --> 00:27:29.049 – thanks. Yeah. When my hands are closed, it's 00:27:29.049 --> 00:27:33.349 because I believe it's mine. Right. And when 00:27:33.349 --> 00:27:36.890 it's mine, I earned it. So now we get into the 00:27:36.890 --> 00:27:41.490 concept of work. Well, the reality is anything 00:27:41.490 --> 00:27:44.029 that anybody listening is doing for work or has 00:27:44.029 --> 00:27:46.750 done for work, it came from the hand of God. 00:27:47.089 --> 00:27:49.349 You didn't get your breath. He gave it to you. 00:27:49.410 --> 00:27:51.410 You didn't have your body that's capable of doing 00:27:51.410 --> 00:27:53.829 the things you did. He gave it to you. You didn't 00:27:53.829 --> 00:27:56.369 have your mind if you used your mind. He gave 00:27:56.369 --> 00:27:58.869 you your mind, the ability to learn and do the 00:27:58.869 --> 00:28:01.910 things you did. So at some point, we've taken 00:28:01.910 --> 00:28:04.440 ownership of the things that God... We've taken 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:06.720 the credit that God deserves for the ownership 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:09.980 of who I am, what I can do, how I can do it. 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:13.380 Therefore, it is now mine. And so now I hold 00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:17.119 it as mine. So when I come to church now, you're 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:21.000 asking me to give what is mine. Well, no, I'm 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.259 not. I'm asking you to steward what God's put 00:28:23.259 --> 00:28:25.500 in your hands, right? That's the conversation 00:28:25.500 --> 00:28:28.980 we're inviting you into. If you see yourself 00:28:28.980 --> 00:28:33.990 as everything is a gift, including what... yes, 00:28:33.990 --> 00:28:36.470 I've used God's talents and I'm the one that 00:28:36.470 --> 00:28:40.529 showed up and I put in the work, right? But I'm 00:28:40.529 --> 00:28:43.170 just stewarding what he gave, right? It's kind 00:28:43.170 --> 00:28:46.930 of like in church world, if I have a gift to 00:28:46.930 --> 00:28:49.970 speak, then it's my job to steward a gift to 00:28:49.970 --> 00:28:51.789 speak and everybody go, yeah, you better do it, 00:28:51.809 --> 00:28:55.109 right? Like you need to do it or leading or whatever 00:28:55.109 --> 00:28:59.410 it happens to be. Somehow we don't apply that 00:28:59.410 --> 00:29:01.930 outside of the church, right? Like the average 00:29:01.930 --> 00:29:04.430 person goes, Well, that's true for you because 00:29:04.430 --> 00:29:06.690 you're a pastor and you're closer to God, right? 00:29:07.329 --> 00:29:09.890 Or you have a different standing, a different 00:29:09.890 --> 00:29:11.730 responsibility. And it's like, no, you have the 00:29:11.730 --> 00:29:14.890 exact same responsibility. And so I would put 00:29:14.890 --> 00:29:19.730 it in a different sense. We need the brilliant 00:29:19.730 --> 00:29:23.269 businessmen of the church to be brilliant businessmen 00:29:23.269 --> 00:29:26.869 of the church. We need that. We need them to 00:29:26.869 --> 00:29:32.529 steward that gift exponentially to steward then, 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:35.200 the fruit of that gift in the kingdom of God. 00:29:35.259 --> 00:29:38.519 Right. So therefore we can fulfill the commission 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:42.700 that God has given us. Right. Like we need the 00:29:42.700 --> 00:29:46.039 people that understand finances in a way and 00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:48.240 ask questions that I would never ask to sit on 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.799 our finance team. They're just stewarding the 00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.960 gifts of what God's given them mentally, ability 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:56.859 wise, whatever you want to call it into that 00:29:56.859 --> 00:30:02.200 space to help guide the church. Yeah. So with 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:06.319 that, It comes back to, is it mine or is it his? 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:11.480 I think if I were to maybe extrapolate and look 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.660 at what the stewardship versus ownership distinction 00:30:14.660 --> 00:30:18.440 brings out is it brings out a proper understanding 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:21.099 of what control is and what you have in your 00:30:21.099 --> 00:30:24.819 control. Really, it's not very much. It really 00:30:24.819 --> 00:30:29.200 isn't. I think it's just fascinating to me because 00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.200 it feels like as we're reading Ecclesiastes together, 00:30:33.500 --> 00:30:38.940 each kind of attempt to grab for meaning is a 00:30:38.940 --> 00:30:42.900 grab for control as well, right? And ultimately 00:30:42.900 --> 00:30:46.559 it comes up short because like what you did the 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:48.839 first week, right? You're grasping at smoke. 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.640 And we didn't talk about this, but it feels like 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:55.660 when you're doing it on stage, everybody's looking 00:30:55.660 --> 00:30:58.299 at you being like, This is ridiculous. Why would 00:30:58.299 --> 00:31:01.579 you ever try to grab smoke? And yet, when we 00:31:01.579 --> 00:31:07.039 look at very successful people and they have 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.759 a high understanding of what control needs to 00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:12.579 be, we celebrate that. We're like, oh, clearly 00:31:12.579 --> 00:31:14.539 you have it figured out. You're successful, all 00:31:14.539 --> 00:31:17.440 of that. And in reality, it's just not the case. 00:31:18.140 --> 00:31:21.960 There's a stewardship. It's interesting, the 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:25.680 control side. Let's just go, let's pick a realm. 00:31:27.369 --> 00:31:31.809 physical health oh that's good right so i know 00:31:31.809 --> 00:31:34.849 people who are regimented in their physical health 00:31:34.849 --> 00:31:36.970 yeah right and i'm not saying we shouldn't do 00:31:36.970 --> 00:31:40.069 the things to keep us healthy but it can become 00:31:40.069 --> 00:31:44.849 almost like if i control this yes then i control 00:31:44.849 --> 00:31:50.349 that yep you don't control cancer right you don't 00:31:50.349 --> 00:31:54.890 control your Brain giving. You know what I mean? 00:31:54.890 --> 00:31:56.450 There's so many things we could go into. Like 00:31:56.450 --> 00:32:00.069 you don't control. We think because I do this, 00:32:00.109 --> 00:32:02.410 I control the outcome. Yeah. And that's what 00:32:02.410 --> 00:32:06.190 you hear in Solomon. Right. He's doing that over 00:32:06.190 --> 00:32:09.789 and over. Yeah. And what you hear in that verse 00:32:09.789 --> 00:32:14.029 17 is he goes, I hated life. Wow. And I think 00:32:14.029 --> 00:32:19.819 the people that. Like watching Rambo get old, 00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:24.480 right? Like watching Rocky get old. Yeah. Watching 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:30.539 him still grasping for I can control my health, 00:32:30.619 --> 00:32:32.259 I can control my – because that's what he built 00:32:32.259 --> 00:32:34.900 everything on, right? And then all of a sudden 00:32:34.900 --> 00:32:37.539 it's like you see him now and you're like, man. 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:41.960 He looks old. You can't turn back the clock. 00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.099 You can't turn back the clock. But what's interesting 00:32:44.099 --> 00:32:46.680 is the people that have done that in their life, 00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:48.980 that they've tried to control their physical 00:32:48.980 --> 00:32:51.980 health and then something happens like cancer, 00:32:52.099 --> 00:32:57.299 they're mad at God. Well, the whole time they've 00:32:57.299 --> 00:33:00.440 gone, I did this, I controlled this, therefore 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:03.059 the outcome should have been. And I think that's 00:33:03.059 --> 00:33:05.660 what you get from Solomon. I've done this. I've 00:33:05.660 --> 00:33:08.180 controlled this. The outcome should be different. 00:33:08.259 --> 00:33:11.319 I was wise. They were foolish. Why would I die 00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:14.000 the same death as them? Why would I suffer the 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.960 same fate? Why would I suffer? If I've been wise 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:22.220 and they've been foolish, why? I mean, you've 00:33:22.220 --> 00:33:23.839 heard this one. I never smoked a cigarette a 00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:25.720 day in my life. That person smoked their whole 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:31.750 life. Why am I dying of lung cancer? And that's 00:33:31.750 --> 00:33:33.630 why I think for him, he gets so frustrated. He's 00:33:33.630 --> 00:33:36.529 like, I hate this. Right. And I think there's 00:33:36.529 --> 00:33:39.490 just so many people in life that have tried to 00:33:39.490 --> 00:33:43.029 control their life and then realize they can't 00:33:43.029 --> 00:33:45.029 and they're just mad because the outcome should 00:33:45.029 --> 00:33:48.549 – X and Y should have equaled Z and it didn't. 00:33:48.549 --> 00:33:50.890 Yeah. Zed, if you want to go English. Oh, there 00:33:50.890 --> 00:33:52.750 you go. There you go. Yeah, it makes me think 00:33:52.750 --> 00:33:57.750 of the Dune series. Okay, this is – I love Dune. 00:33:58.220 --> 00:34:00.079 That was a good turn. I like that. That was a 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:03.059 good turn. I know. Good turn. Frank Herbert wrote 00:34:03.059 --> 00:34:05.359 them. There's six that he wrote. Okay. And you've 00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:08.039 read them how many times? Too many. They're amazing. 00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:13.360 Okay. Just fascinating. Anyways, it's about future. 00:34:13.460 --> 00:34:15.619 It's very like sci -fi, very much in the future. 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.820 Humanity is like a space faring. And the movies 00:34:18.820 --> 00:34:21.199 are based off of those books? Relatively. Okay. 00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.780 Yeah. What's so fascinating to me, there's a 00:34:24.780 --> 00:34:28.030 common. motif that pops up throughout his books 00:34:28.030 --> 00:34:32.170 of weather control. Basically, in this day and 00:34:32.170 --> 00:34:35.710 age, they can control the weather on the planets. 00:34:36.309 --> 00:34:39.010 What's ironic about it is that they never achieve 00:34:39.010 --> 00:34:44.730 perfection. There's multiple times that different 00:34:44.730 --> 00:34:46.929 characters will be like, what is weather control 00:34:46.929 --> 00:34:49.309 thinking today? What is this snowstorm? Just 00:34:49.309 --> 00:34:53.429 stuff like that. What's funny is that what you 00:34:53.429 --> 00:34:57.179 end up discovering is perfect weather control 00:34:57.179 --> 00:35:01.179 is machine -like. And there's a resistance against 00:35:01.179 --> 00:35:03.079 the machines, everything like that. So it's actually 00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:06.880 anti -human. And so it's fascinating to me because 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:11.260 control is, it seems like reading the situation 00:35:11.260 --> 00:35:12.900 through Solomon, reading it through scripture, 00:35:13.059 --> 00:35:16.860 control is actually against God's original intention. 00:35:18.059 --> 00:35:20.300 There's this grasp, right? And that's what I 00:35:20.300 --> 00:35:22.340 love this collection that we're doing because 00:35:22.340 --> 00:35:24.340 I think it's every single week we've read it 00:35:24.340 --> 00:35:28.739 next to Genesis. And this week you read part 00:35:28.739 --> 00:35:32.139 of the fall story. Yeah, I read both. This is 00:35:32.139 --> 00:35:34.619 what work was in a Genesis 2 world. This is what 00:35:34.619 --> 00:35:39.860 it is in a Genesis 3. And that's, to me, because 00:35:39.860 --> 00:35:42.239 this kind of is your landing, right? Your landing 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.230 this week is just to recognize the gift. The 00:35:45.230 --> 00:35:47.670 gift of the joy in the middle of it. The Bronco. 00:35:47.789 --> 00:35:52.190 Yeah, the Ford Bronco. This collection is sponsored 00:35:52.190 --> 00:35:54.510 by Beckham. Yeah, literally. Every other week. 00:35:54.949 --> 00:35:58.750 I mean, it's great for me. I get it every week. 00:36:00.050 --> 00:36:03.369 But no, so talk to me because you kind of landed 00:36:03.369 --> 00:36:07.949 in that receiving of the gift. Yeah. How does 00:36:07.949 --> 00:36:10.329 that push back against control? How does that 00:36:10.329 --> 00:36:14.010 push back against the ownership tendency we have? 00:36:14.829 --> 00:36:17.150 it with humanity like what's what's that about 00:36:17.150 --> 00:36:21.710 uh well real quick let me let me touch on that 00:36:21.710 --> 00:36:24.829 yeah you can't receive if you haven't let go 00:36:24.829 --> 00:36:29.030 well right like like if i'm still would you say 00:36:29.030 --> 00:36:31.670 that again yeah say it again you can't receive 00:36:31.670 --> 00:36:34.110 if you haven't let go and i think that was hannah's 00:36:34.110 --> 00:36:36.829 point with joy yeah right like her being able 00:36:36.829 --> 00:36:40.780 to Her language was the acceptance of joy. To 00:36:40.780 --> 00:36:45.019 accept joy required she let go of control. And 00:36:45.019 --> 00:36:49.000 I think in that context, like we think of salvation. 00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:54.639 I can't accept the free gift of Jesus until I 00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:58.000 let go of trying to solve it myself. So there's 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.099 a letting go that receives a gift. There's a 00:37:01.099 --> 00:37:04.159 coming to a point where it's like, if I don't 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:06.239 receive this gift, there is no other answer. 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.280 And I think with the control thing, what's fascinating 00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:14.179 to me and where my brain goes as you were sharing 00:37:14.179 --> 00:37:19.079 that, you think of us with our kids, right? If 00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.980 you hold on too tightly to your kids to make 00:37:22.980 --> 00:37:26.739 them perfect, they're going to break, right? 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.300 And control has a way of breaking. Control has 00:37:30.300 --> 00:37:32.820 a way of making it, warping it to something that 00:37:32.820 --> 00:37:35.099 it's not, right? Even though we think we're making 00:37:35.099 --> 00:37:38.409 it perfect. Right. It's warping something that 00:37:38.409 --> 00:37:41.670 it's not supposed to. It's like my 15 -year -old 00:37:41.670 --> 00:37:46.809 right now. I just took her driving for the first 00:37:46.809 --> 00:37:50.510 time yesterday. It's scary. It's a whole world. 00:37:50.610 --> 00:37:52.949 It's a whole world. Thankfully, it's not my first 00:37:52.949 --> 00:37:55.610 rodeo, so it's a little easier. You have some 00:37:55.610 --> 00:37:59.789 practice. But it's just her stretching her independence. 00:38:00.929 --> 00:38:04.630 And even in the 45 minutes that we were driving 00:38:04.630 --> 00:38:07.349 in the parking lot, There were moments where 00:38:07.349 --> 00:38:09.730 I'm stretching her independence. I'm releasing 00:38:09.730 --> 00:38:12.309 control. You want to talk about releasing control? 00:38:12.750 --> 00:38:15.349 She gets in the driver's seat, puts it in drive. 00:38:15.769 --> 00:38:17.809 And you know how cars like move forward once 00:38:17.809 --> 00:38:19.929 they're in drive. She's like, oh, I don't like 00:38:19.929 --> 00:38:25.030 this. Why? Because she's my kid that loves the 00:38:25.030 --> 00:38:27.409 control of every situation. She loves to know 00:38:27.409 --> 00:38:30.210 what. And when she's not in control, it makes 00:38:30.210 --> 00:38:33.650 her uncomfortable. For me, I'm like fully in 00:38:33.650 --> 00:38:35.719 control. You're not going to hit anything going 00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:41.059 two miles an hour. We're fine. Fast forward into 00:38:41.059 --> 00:38:42.960 it, and I'm giving her a little more freedom 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:44.840 now because she's comfortable. And I go take 00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:46.980 a right here, and she's going in between two 00:38:46.980 --> 00:38:52.679 rocks. And she's coming in way too hot. And so 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:56.400 I'm like, brake, brake. And I realize I have 00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:59.559 no control. Yeah. Right? Yeah. She can run in. 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.460 She's got to tap the brakes. But to me, it's 00:39:01.460 --> 00:39:05.550 such a great picture of. Like as parents, if 00:39:05.550 --> 00:39:08.710 we don't learn to let go of control and let them 00:39:08.710 --> 00:39:11.349 find their independence, they won't know how 00:39:11.349 --> 00:39:15.809 to live. Yeah. Right? And I think with us, the 00:39:15.809 --> 00:39:18.610 letting go actually brings life. And I think 00:39:18.610 --> 00:39:21.349 what we find in the narrative of salvation is 00:39:21.349 --> 00:39:24.289 letting go finds life. And so I think if you 00:39:24.289 --> 00:39:27.429 never let go, you can't receive. Wow. Yeah. I 00:39:27.429 --> 00:39:32.969 mean, it's such a good image. Because everybody 00:39:32.969 --> 00:39:34.670 knows what it's like to hold tightly to something. 00:39:35.070 --> 00:39:37.849 And again, maybe even to go back to the smoke, 00:39:38.090 --> 00:39:40.710 how ridiculous it looks trying to hold on to 00:39:40.710 --> 00:39:45.989 smoke. And how often even me sitting here thinking 00:39:45.989 --> 00:39:48.130 about things in my life that I'm grasping very 00:39:48.130 --> 00:39:51.949 tightly and how ridiculous it looks. It's not 00:39:51.949 --> 00:39:55.590 doing anything. Well, imagine me saying it. I'm 00:39:55.590 --> 00:39:58.530 never going to let her drive. Because then I 00:39:58.530 --> 00:40:00.150 can be in control and she won't get in an accident. 00:40:00.389 --> 00:40:02.769 Well, that's not true. I can't control everybody 00:40:02.769 --> 00:40:06.949 else. So I could be driving, right? But that's 00:40:06.949 --> 00:40:10.289 how dumb it is when we go, we have this control 00:40:10.289 --> 00:40:14.190 versus opening my hands and going, God, it's 00:40:14.190 --> 00:40:17.449 in your hands. And whatever you bring today, 00:40:17.710 --> 00:40:20.090 I trust that you're going to walk with me. Just 00:40:20.090 --> 00:40:22.710 like the cool of the day, he walked with them. 00:40:23.150 --> 00:40:25.889 That's the promise we have, right? That he'll 00:40:25.889 --> 00:40:29.389 walk with us. And so in the Genesis 3 world, 00:40:29.449 --> 00:40:32.110 the promise is he's there with us. But if I'm 00:40:32.110 --> 00:40:33.550 trying to control everything, I'm going to miss 00:40:33.550 --> 00:40:36.369 him. Yeah. No, that's really good. And it just 00:40:36.369 --> 00:40:39.730 makes me think like people might be sitting there 00:40:39.730 --> 00:40:42.389 like, oh, you mean live life with open hands? 00:40:42.489 --> 00:40:44.610 Right. Or a really concrete thing is to see the 00:40:44.610 --> 00:40:46.110 good, right? Like that was another thing that 00:40:46.110 --> 00:40:49.769 you kind of hit on was we are living in such 00:40:49.769 --> 00:40:52.849 a distracted society. So it's kind of ironic 00:40:52.849 --> 00:40:55.110 to me that you were like. see the good is like 00:40:55.110 --> 00:40:58.030 the concrete step. But like, it's true because 00:40:58.030 --> 00:41:01.349 if my head, if my head is turned down to my phone, 00:41:01.429 --> 00:41:06.409 as it often is, I miss my son loving his Ford 00:41:06.409 --> 00:41:08.369 Bronco. Yeah. Right. And that is just a good 00:41:08.369 --> 00:41:11.230 thing. Yeah. It's a beautiful thing. Yeah. Um, 00:41:11.449 --> 00:41:13.949 one of my favorite things he does is he pats 00:41:13.949 --> 00:41:15.969 the ground. Oh, it's so good. And he's like, 00:41:16.070 --> 00:41:19.250 just sit with me. Yeah. Just sit here. Yep. And 00:41:19.250 --> 00:41:22.429 every time I do it, I haven't regretted it. Yeah. 00:41:23.019 --> 00:41:26.840 And yet before I'm like, ah, I gotta go do, I 00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.559 need to, and he won't, he won't let me go by. 00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.179 He's like, no, no, no, sit down. Yeah. Yeah. 00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:34.800 With his grunts. I mean, he's not, he is not 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.019 saying sit down. Yeah. And so you gotta, you 00:41:37.019 --> 00:41:38.900 gotta pay attention to him. Yeah. Otherwise you 00:41:38.900 --> 00:41:41.260 miss it. And you see the good. And if I see, 00:41:41.300 --> 00:41:43.320 and that's from the weekend that I think is a 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.000 big takeaway because people don't see it that 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.420 way. But if I see the good, I see God because 00:41:47.420 --> 00:41:50.199 God is good. Right. Right. And I think that's. 00:41:51.809 --> 00:41:56.530 we miss that because it goes, Oh, you know, to 00:41:56.530 --> 00:42:00.550 see the good sounds so basic. Well, not when 00:42:00.550 --> 00:42:02.269 you unravel it, because if I see the good, I 00:42:02.269 --> 00:42:04.329 see God. If I see God, I see Jesus. If I see 00:42:04.329 --> 00:42:06.769 Jesus, I see me. Right. And so all of a sudden 00:42:06.769 --> 00:42:09.369 I've just framed up everything just by being 00:42:09.369 --> 00:42:12.449 present to the good of sitting on the floor with 00:42:12.449 --> 00:42:15.630 a 22 month old. Right. Right. Yeah. And it's 00:42:15.630 --> 00:42:17.510 still framed by death. It's just a death that 00:42:17.510 --> 00:42:20.340 didn't stay dead. Right? Like it's a death that 00:42:20.340 --> 00:42:22.380 leads to life. And that death says, because it 00:42:22.380 --> 00:42:25.920 frames it, the best thing I can do is be present 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:28.559 with him. Because that's what God does with me. 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:34.659 So good. Beard, how are we looking on time? What 00:42:34.659 --> 00:42:38.460 are we at? Woo! 43. I feel like there's like 00:42:38.460 --> 00:42:42.559 an intuitiveness to this. There's just a rolling 00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:46.789 clock in my head. Yeah. And I... I wish it would 00:42:46.789 --> 00:42:52.969 help me keep time, but it doesn't work. Is there 00:42:52.969 --> 00:42:54.349 anything you wish you would have said this weekend 00:42:54.349 --> 00:42:57.070 that just got left? Didn't have enough time during 00:42:57.070 --> 00:43:04.969 the weekend. Oh man. I don't think so. I don't 00:43:04.969 --> 00:43:07.630 think so. I think, I think it changed. I mean, 00:43:07.630 --> 00:43:10.030 stuff always changes by, I think what I would 00:43:10.030 --> 00:43:12.429 emphasize from the weekend, if you weren't there, 00:43:12.550 --> 00:43:15.639 yeah, you missed it. And I don't mean that in 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:18.880 a mean way. Yeah. But it felt like my language 00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:21.079 for the end of the weekend was it felt like a 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:25.800 rocket ship that we started in pre -launch. And 00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.940 during the gathering, it just kept going up and 00:43:28.940 --> 00:43:32.159 up to where there was one point at the 930. I'm 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:34.159 like, the roof is going to come off this place 00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:38.659 because people are singing so loud. Wow. And 00:43:38.659 --> 00:43:46.329 to watch men worship. In a genuine, authentic 00:43:46.329 --> 00:43:50.429 way and stepping in further and further. There's 00:43:50.429 --> 00:43:54.289 just something so, so good. And so you go back 00:43:54.289 --> 00:43:56.070 to seeing the good, right? To see the good is 00:43:56.070 --> 00:43:58.130 to see God. To see God work in his people this 00:43:58.130 --> 00:44:02.329 weekend in such a tangible way was unreal. Yeah, 00:44:02.349 --> 00:44:07.769 that word did not come back void, right? I'm 00:44:07.769 --> 00:44:11.090 going to go out on a limb and say anybody who 00:44:11.090 --> 00:44:13.730 showed up on the weekend to one of our gatherings, 00:44:14.219 --> 00:44:17.800 did not regret it. Yeah. Hopefully. I would agree. 00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:26.079 Yeah. Y 'all, thanks for enduring this 45 minutes. 00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.039 We didn't even talk about the coffee. I know. 00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.599 I thought about it as I poured our next thing. 00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.840 Huckleberry Roasters. I think it's just Huck 00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:36.840 Roasters. Oh, it is Huckleberry Roasters. Yeah. 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:41.559 In Denver. Denver. It's what it says. It is not. 00:44:41.980 --> 00:44:46.239 It's not Montana. No. It was excellent. Balance 00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.059 cut. The beard was annoyed earlier because I 00:44:49.059 --> 00:44:52.500 said my opinion before he had taken a drink. 00:44:52.579 --> 00:44:54.179 So I've ruined the whole process for him. I was 00:44:54.179 --> 00:44:56.360 listening to a collection recently that it was 00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.599 called Huckleberry Everything. Oh, uh -huh. And 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:01.960 I only listened to the opening one just out of 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:05.619 curiosity. And that was the premise. Huckleberry 00:45:05.619 --> 00:45:08.619 goes with everything. And he just listed all 00:45:08.619 --> 00:45:10.340 the things that Huckleberry's in and it goes 00:45:10.340 --> 00:45:12.619 just enhances it, makes it better. And his whole 00:45:12.619 --> 00:45:14.559 premise was that's what God does in your life. 00:45:14.579 --> 00:45:17.880 So good. And hey, that's what God is doing in 00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:22.179 your life right now is he is telling you, screaming 00:45:22.179 --> 00:45:24.900 at you, trying to get you to be present because 00:45:24.900 --> 00:45:27.280 in order to be present, you got to see the good. 00:45:27.579 --> 00:45:30.760 When you see the good. You see yourself through 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:33.360 Jesus. That was mine. That's good. That's how 00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.019 I try to summarize. Huckleberry everything. It 00:45:35.019 --> 00:45:36.460 was good. It was great. There's a little bit 00:45:36.460 --> 00:45:37.860 of Huckleberry thrown in, a little bit of Noah 00:45:37.860 --> 00:45:41.159 thrown in. Yeah. Next week, we're going to be 00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:43.739 gone. We're actually at a, our pastoral team 00:45:43.739 --> 00:45:47.059 is up at an offsite. We're excited about, but 00:45:47.059 --> 00:45:50.159 we'll be gone next week. Pray, pray, pray. Please 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.699 pray. Yeah. We're excited for what God's going 00:45:52.699 --> 00:45:55.340 to do through that. But until that point, we 00:45:55.340 --> 00:45:58.400 love you. Thankful for you. And we will see you. 00:45:58.809 --> 00:46:00.309 Love you.