WEBVTT 00:00:04.880 --> 00:00:09.419 What is up? Everybody listening right now to 00:00:09.419 --> 00:00:11.560 the Heights Unedited podcast, a podcast featuring 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:16.559 real conversation about real life. We dig deeper 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:20.539 into the weekend message as well as answering 00:00:20.539 --> 00:00:24.179 your questions on faith, culture, and life. Wow. 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:27.620 Wow. You're really feeling the intro. Totally 00:00:27.620 --> 00:00:31.500 different approach today. I even jumped in because 00:00:31.500 --> 00:00:33.380 I thought you were done. No, no, no. And you 00:00:33.380 --> 00:00:35.640 weren't done. Pregnant pause is what we call 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:43.020 it. Okay. That's what it's called. Not just a 00:00:43.020 --> 00:00:46.920 pause. Who calls it? The people say that. The 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:49.299 people? Who are the people? There's people out 00:00:49.299 --> 00:00:51.759 there. Is it like that? What's the master class 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:54.340 on speaking? What's that one that people do? 00:00:54.500 --> 00:00:57.399 What's it called? There's like a thing people 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:00.039 do for speaking. That's where they say it. No, 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:02.759 not communication. There's like a class. Oh, 00:01:02.780 --> 00:01:04.640 my gosh. You guys don't know what I'm talking 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:09.599 about. Yes. It's not champagne, but it reminds 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:15.340 me of that. It's like, oh, my gosh. John. We're 00:01:15.340 --> 00:01:17.379 going to get so many comments because it's this 00:01:17.379 --> 00:01:19.329 class. We're not going to get many comments, 00:01:19.430 --> 00:01:22.769 but let's talk about why you're really frustrated 00:01:22.769 --> 00:01:25.689 right now. We need to let the podcast fam know. 00:01:25.769 --> 00:01:28.489 Are we going to be real? Not real. Yeah, yeah. 00:01:28.909 --> 00:01:31.569 We're going to be mad. John's on one right now. 00:01:31.609 --> 00:01:34.370 Podcast fam. Did you see the podcast family? 00:01:34.489 --> 00:01:36.769 How many people are like, there wasn't anybody 00:01:36.769 --> 00:01:38.650 that voted for viewers and listeners. There we 00:01:38.650 --> 00:01:40.269 go. Podcast fam. There you go. That is what they're 00:01:40.269 --> 00:01:43.650 called. So let the fam know. What's got your 00:01:43.650 --> 00:01:48.060 goat right now? So I was just told before we 00:01:48.060 --> 00:01:53.480 went live for the beard unmuted us that city 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:56.760 of Prescott has raised their parking price. So 00:01:56.760 --> 00:02:00.280 if you go over the two hours to a hundred and 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:04.219 what over a hundred. Okay. Hang on for a parking 00:02:04.219 --> 00:02:07.079 ticket. It used to be 31 50. Don't ask me how 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.659 I know that. Oh, I know. But it was like 31 something. 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:14.900 I think. Right. To over 100? Like there's inflation 00:02:14.900 --> 00:02:17.460 and then there's like, who got to make that decision? 00:02:17.620 --> 00:02:19.979 Yeah. And why? There's inflation and then there's 00:02:19.979 --> 00:02:22.580 highway robbery. Yeah. That's like, you might 00:02:22.580 --> 00:02:25.280 as well just be waiting. I know. It's just not 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:28.439 fair. No. You know? No. I'm just trying to fire 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:29.960 you up more. I'm just trying to give you more. 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:34.580 Who are we appeasing with these prices? Not you. 00:02:34.580 --> 00:02:36.379 What I want to know is if anybody on the podcast 00:02:36.379 --> 00:02:39.569 fam is a part of the city of Prescott. You can 00:02:39.569 --> 00:02:42.990 DM the beard. Cause I would love to know like, 00:02:43.090 --> 00:02:45.909 okay. If you raise it to 50 bucks, that's fair. 00:02:46.650 --> 00:02:49.330 Right. Yeah. Okay. Like nobody was paying attention 00:02:49.330 --> 00:02:51.689 to the 30. I get it. Like people were like me. 00:02:51.729 --> 00:02:54.569 We're just parking. Right. And I've been good. 00:02:54.689 --> 00:02:57.610 I want to, I want to let the record show. I have 00:02:57.610 --> 00:02:59.810 been good. This is not a court case. You're just, 00:02:59.870 --> 00:03:02.449 I'm defending myself at this point. You are. 00:03:03.110 --> 00:03:09.180 But I've been good. However. 30 to over 100? 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:13.879 Yeah. That's like the mafia. Yeah. So we are 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:16.620 being extorted somehow, some way. It's not good. 00:03:16.900 --> 00:03:19.599 And you don't get any benefits. We got a place 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:21.800 downtown. We don't get a parking spot. Yeah. 00:03:22.330 --> 00:03:24.250 Oh, that's true. We don't, we rent down here. 00:03:24.289 --> 00:03:26.310 We pay taxes down here. Yep. Our offices are 00:03:26.310 --> 00:03:27.990 on the square for anyone who doesn't know. And 00:03:27.990 --> 00:03:31.150 that's where this is coming from. And John, John's 00:03:31.150 --> 00:03:33.710 a little, I feel really entitled right now. We'll 00:03:33.710 --> 00:03:36.210 fire up about it. But I do want to thank all 00:03:36.210 --> 00:03:40.169 of the podcast fam for being a part of the podcast 00:03:40.169 --> 00:03:42.990 fam for, for listening, for smashing that like 00:03:42.990 --> 00:03:46.110 button, for leaving reviews, comments. We got 00:03:46.110 --> 00:03:49.000 a lot of, a lot of likes. A lot of smashing the 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.539 like buttons. Whoa, breaking it out early. Come 00:03:52.539 --> 00:03:55.240 on. Man, it feels like a party in here already. 00:03:55.460 --> 00:03:57.840 I'm so glad that you guys get to come along with 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:02.180 us on this rate review. We haven't had a rating 00:04:02.180 --> 00:04:03.860 in a long time. I still just have to say it. 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:07.319 It's part of the script. Are they still like, 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:11.900 can you leave a review? You can. Well, we may 00:04:11.900 --> 00:04:14.080 need to test that. We may need to test that theory. 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:17.259 You, go leave us a five -star review on the Apple 00:04:17.259 --> 00:04:19.860 Podcast Store just to make sure it still works. 00:04:20.100 --> 00:04:23.839 Do some R &D for us and let us know. All right. 00:04:23.860 --> 00:04:26.240 We do have some questions coming in, which, by 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:28.759 the way, if you are like, man, I want to submit 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:30.480 a question, but I don't know what to submit. 00:04:30.980 --> 00:04:33.560 John, what should they do? They should talk to 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:37.100 Raymond. Raymond. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Raymond feels 00:04:37.100 --> 00:04:39.339 like he doesn't have any good questions is what 00:04:39.339 --> 00:04:41.959 I heard. But he's like, okay, first of all, what 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.360 I do know about Raymond, he's got dad jokes for 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:47.899 days. He does. Four days. But a mind like that 00:04:47.899 --> 00:04:49.740 that can have dad jokes, he's got to have some 00:04:49.740 --> 00:04:50.959 questions. He's got to have some questions. He's 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:53.420 got a lot of life going on. Everybody has questions. 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:56.319 You just got to be able to go ahead and send 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:58.899 them to uneditedheightschurch .com. We did get 00:04:58.899 --> 00:05:00.339 a question. I have a question for Raymond that's 00:05:00.339 --> 00:05:03.680 really important. Why are you a Man City fan? 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:05.459 There we go. I knew it was coming in. Because 00:05:05.459 --> 00:05:07.720 here's what's happening. Right now, as we're 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:10.819 recording, Arsenal are playing their second -to 00:05:10.819 --> 00:05:15.180 -last game at home against Burnley. If they win, 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:19.100 if they win, they are one game away from doing 00:05:19.100 --> 00:05:22.240 something that hasn't happened in 22 years of 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:25.779 winning the title. Oof. But if they don't, City 00:05:25.779 --> 00:05:27.959 are knocking on the door, and Raymond would be 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:31.620 very excited. We do have our first question coming 00:05:31.620 --> 00:05:34.519 in. All right. Here we go. It's a little more 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:36.879 lighthearted, but again, we answer every question. 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.160 So here we go. The anonymous asked this. What 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:43.120 do you wear to a wedding you yourself are officiating? 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:46.019 Do you wear ministerial robes? Did you just say 00:05:46.019 --> 00:05:49.300 we answer every question? We do. So no question 00:05:49.300 --> 00:05:52.000 is off limits. No question is off limits, folks. 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:55.500 And the beard said that's right. Okay. What do 00:05:55.500 --> 00:05:56.779 we do when we do a wedding? Yeah, what do you 00:05:56.779 --> 00:06:02.509 wear? Clothes. That's very good. My robes normally 00:06:02.509 --> 00:06:05.370 have a hood on the back of them, like a hoodie. 00:06:05.569 --> 00:06:08.810 Just a sweatshirt. No, I normally. We do not 00:06:08.810 --> 00:06:10.649 have ministerial robes. Normally I will dress 00:06:10.649 --> 00:06:13.610 up for a wedding. I'll probably wear a crew neck 00:06:13.610 --> 00:06:16.389 sweatshirt. There you go. Instead of the hoodie. 00:06:18.449 --> 00:06:20.850 And yeah, it depends on the wedding. Totally 00:06:20.850 --> 00:06:22.730 depends on the wedding. If it's on a beach, I'm 00:06:22.730 --> 00:06:26.730 probably going to wear. some kind of beach attire, 00:06:26.730 --> 00:06:29.790 like a button up shirt and khakis. Yeah. If it's 00:06:29.790 --> 00:06:33.170 here in Prescott and it's small and not a big 00:06:33.170 --> 00:06:35.850 deal, then I'll probably wear what I normally 00:06:35.850 --> 00:06:39.230 wear. Yeah. But if it, I don't know how it is 00:06:39.230 --> 00:06:42.589 for you. Normally I defer to what kind of wedding 00:06:42.589 --> 00:06:46.339 the couple want. Yep. I wear whatever the couple 00:06:46.339 --> 00:06:48.620 wants me to wear. That's what I wear. You just 00:06:48.620 --> 00:06:50.720 ask them? So part of my, if I'm doing most of 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:52.160 the weddings I do, I've done premarital counseling 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:53.779 for the couple. I get to know them a little bit. 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:57.000 Even if I don't do premarital, I meet with the 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:58.839 couple before the wedding as we talk through 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:00.300 the wedding and plan whatever. And one of the 00:07:00.300 --> 00:07:02.600 questions that I have that I ask every couple 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:04.199 is, what do you want me to wear to your wedding? 00:07:04.620 --> 00:07:07.459 Okay. What fits what you want? Do you give them 00:07:07.459 --> 00:07:09.120 parameters? I do because I'm not going to go 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.980 buy something, but I'll tell them like, hey. 00:07:12.540 --> 00:07:14.720 Is it a suit? If it's a suit, you want me to 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:16.540 wear a tie with the suit. You want me to wear 00:07:16.540 --> 00:07:19.120 a no suit coat, but just slacks and a button 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:22.920 up. You want me to, is it a. I've also had people 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:24.360 that are like, Hey, we want you to wear this. 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:26.139 So we're going to buy you. So one specifically 00:07:26.139 --> 00:07:28.699 was like bow tie and suspenders because everybody 00:07:28.699 --> 00:07:30.959 on the bridal party was wearing it. And they're 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:32.939 like, and we're buying it for you too. Okay. 00:07:32.980 --> 00:07:34.779 So they bought it for me and they're buying it 00:07:34.779 --> 00:07:37.360 for you. So I could fit into that. So I've done, 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:39.000 you know, and then obviously beach ones I've 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:41.500 had ones, Hey, no, no shoes. That's what I want. 00:07:41.540 --> 00:07:43.120 I know. Okay. That's what you want. You know, 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:45.980 it's your wedding. Just different depending on 00:07:45.980 --> 00:07:48.180 whatever they're going for. I did a wedding for 00:07:48.180 --> 00:07:52.899 a gentleman who he was a rodeo champion and his 00:07:52.899 --> 00:07:56.839 wife was Miss Rodeo of that year. Oh, that's 00:07:56.839 --> 00:07:59.660 awesome. And so theirs was a cowboy wedding. 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.779 And they, I told him, I was like, I don't own 00:08:02.779 --> 00:08:04.560 a cowboy hat and I'm not going to buy one. But 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:07.480 other than that, I will wear cowboy stuff. They 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:10.160 didn't give me one, but I, um, it was like a 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:13.040 flannel shirt and more like, you know, and that's 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:15.079 what they wanted. So I don't own boots either. 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:17.100 I wear dress shoes that semi look like boots, 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:20.079 but yeah. But anyway, I wear whatever the couple 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:24.600 wants. If Todd does a wedding for you coming 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:29.839 out, you need to pick like August, July. and 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:34.980 put him in a full suit and tie, I think that's 00:08:34.980 --> 00:08:37.960 appropriate. Whatever you want. It's like the 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:40.000 city tax. It's the same thing as a city tax. 00:08:40.059 --> 00:08:44.720 I'm just kidding. There he goes. All right. Basically, 00:08:45.419 --> 00:08:47.879 the answer comes down to we do not wear robes. 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:51.519 That is not our tradition. But we wear what matches 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.120 the theme of the wedding or what the people would 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:59.029 like. Exactly. All right. With that, oh, we got 00:08:59.029 --> 00:09:01.370 the beard. We have an interruption. That was 00:09:01.370 --> 00:09:04.610 a strong interruption. Yeah, he's coming in strong. 00:09:04.870 --> 00:09:08.970 Oh, boy. There's a birthday coming up. A birthday? 00:09:09.169 --> 00:09:13.330 What are you talking about? Oh, wow. Look at 00:09:13.330 --> 00:09:19.009 these. From the pod fam. This is an Oreo. I don't 00:09:19.009 --> 00:09:21.529 know if I like David. It smells birthday cake 00:09:21.529 --> 00:09:24.350 on the Oreo, but look at this right here, folks. 00:09:25.289 --> 00:09:28.669 Can you see it in the? Are we getting a, he's 00:09:28.669 --> 00:09:30.429 got to, he's got to adjust the cam so we can 00:09:30.429 --> 00:09:35.789 get it right here. Look at this. We have Oreos 00:09:35.789 --> 00:09:40.210 right here. All right. We got Oreos with John's 00:09:40.210 --> 00:09:44.610 face on them that say happy birthday. So we officially 00:09:44.610 --> 00:09:48.169 retired doing the Oreo thing on our show. We've 00:09:48.169 --> 00:09:52.769 brought it back apparently for some. Birthday 00:09:52.769 --> 00:09:55.049 Oreos. Look at you. I just don't want to look 00:09:55.049 --> 00:09:57.929 at me. It's really hard to tell if it's you or 00:09:57.929 --> 00:10:05.190 Ellen. You know? So. Oh. Oh. Why is yours so 00:10:05.190 --> 00:10:09.350 much better? No, dude. Why is yours so much better? 00:10:09.389 --> 00:10:12.129 Mine is awesome, dude. They are awesome. Why? 00:10:12.269 --> 00:10:16.929 Why? I got an Oreo, too. Wow. Why does his look 00:10:16.929 --> 00:10:20.570 like GQ's version of Oreo? Mine looks like Sesame 00:10:20.570 --> 00:10:25.029 Street. In front of my face more. Oh, dude, look 00:10:25.029 --> 00:10:28.690 at that. I really like these Oreos. Dude, yours 00:10:28.690 --> 00:10:30.529 are amazing. I may have found a new favorite 00:10:30.529 --> 00:10:32.870 flavor of Oreo. Okay, so here's the question. 00:10:32.950 --> 00:10:35.909 If we're going to eat these, do I eat yours and 00:10:35.909 --> 00:10:38.029 you eat mine? No, look what I'm going to do. 00:10:38.309 --> 00:10:39.929 Look what I'm going to do. Look what I'm going 00:10:39.929 --> 00:10:42.450 to do. Yeah, this is what I'm going to do. Right 00:10:42.450 --> 00:10:44.980 here. You ready? Are you melding it together? 00:10:45.340 --> 00:10:47.200 They have funfetti on the inside. Yeah, dude. 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:49.779 Oh, did you double side it? Oh, you on my side. 00:10:49.779 --> 00:10:55.480 You can flip the coin. So good. Okay. Well, we 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:57.399 can't waste this. So I'm going to go with just 00:10:57.399 --> 00:11:03.659 the original. I'm basically just having an original 00:11:03.659 --> 00:11:06.039 Oreo. Okay. Here's what we're going to do because 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:08.299 I'm not eating sugar right now. Oh, okay. So 00:11:08.299 --> 00:11:11.220 I'm going to flip it. And if it lands on you, 00:11:11.259 --> 00:11:13.570 I'm going to eat it. If it lands on me, I'm not 00:11:13.570 --> 00:11:20.169 eating it. Okay. You ready? It was you. I know 00:11:20.169 --> 00:11:22.129 it was. I saw you spin it right there. I'm going 00:11:22.129 --> 00:11:24.809 to do it again. Oh, he's got to go again. I'm 00:11:24.809 --> 00:11:26.389 going to do it again. I'm eating it right here. 00:11:26.389 --> 00:11:29.529 However it lands this time. Oh, there you go. 00:11:29.529 --> 00:11:35.049 Okay, I'll eat it. Birthday cake. Delicious, 00:11:36.970 --> 00:11:41.990 normal birthday cake Oreo. Whoa, that's weird. 00:11:42.230 --> 00:11:48.389 Look at that. Oh, yeah. The edible paper, photo 00:11:48.389 --> 00:11:53.529 paper on it. You having one too? There we go. 00:11:54.129 --> 00:11:56.789 He's getting a bald eagle one. The bald eagle 00:11:56.789 --> 00:12:01.850 ones are sweet. Big fan. Big fan. I like Sesame 00:12:01.850 --> 00:12:09.649 Street. It's good. Wow. Now you get to listen 00:12:09.649 --> 00:12:17.549 to us chill. Seriously, look at this. Did you 00:12:17.549 --> 00:12:20.549 know that was the thing? It says Oreo ID. Custom 00:12:20.549 --> 00:12:25.909 Oreos. This is incredible. I know. Oreo ID. Custom. 00:12:26.750 --> 00:12:30.669 Truly an incredible gift for the pod from the 00:12:30.669 --> 00:12:32.009 pod fam. I think you should take those home and 00:12:32.009 --> 00:12:35.889 enjoy those ones. Much appreciated. Those are 00:12:35.889 --> 00:12:39.779 yours. Oh, man. Hard transition here. Now back 00:12:39.779 --> 00:12:44.000 to the seriousness of things. It's kind of self 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.840 -centered of you that you ate. I know. I didn't 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:51.399 want to take one of the photos of it. It was 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.720 kind of wasting of you to not want to take the 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:59.639 whole Oreo. Was it wasting or was it like genius 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:03.539 that I got? It was. I was kind of jealous. Whoever 00:13:03.539 --> 00:13:07.190 did that from the podcast family. Thank you. 00:13:07.190 --> 00:13:09.230 Yeah, much appreciated. Thanks for the birthday 00:13:09.230 --> 00:13:13.730 wishes. Yours still is so much better. I don't 00:13:13.730 --> 00:13:17.750 understand. John, I don't want to tell you why. 00:13:19.590 --> 00:13:26.750 Oh, man. So let's talk about the weekend. What 00:13:26.750 --> 00:13:29.909 are we doing? I'm trying. I've been trying for 00:13:29.909 --> 00:13:33.690 a minute here to get us back on track. This might 00:13:33.690 --> 00:13:35.629 have to be our first edited episode so we can 00:13:35.629 --> 00:13:38.250 shorten up some of this. Let's talk about the 00:13:38.250 --> 00:13:40.730 weekend. We have been in a collection, know your 00:13:40.730 --> 00:13:43.730 limits over the last couple of weeks or where 00:13:43.730 --> 00:13:47.509 are your limits. And as we've talked about limits 00:13:47.509 --> 00:13:50.169 that we have yesterday, we talked specifically 00:13:50.169 --> 00:13:53.129 about what those limits look like and how we 00:13:53.129 --> 00:13:55.789 need to know those limits in our life. And you 00:13:55.789 --> 00:13:59.120 read. in the book of Genesis where original sin 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:01.019 came in, how we were designed, all that. And 00:14:01.019 --> 00:14:02.919 so we have a question in based off of your message 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:06.539 from Rick. Rick asks this. He said, you described 00:14:06.539 --> 00:14:09.139 how God placed limits on humans for their good. 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:12.659 In the garden, Adam and Eve had free reign of 00:14:12.659 --> 00:14:14.659 everything except the tree of knowledge of good 00:14:14.659 --> 00:14:18.679 and evil. Sin did not exist yet, but there was 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:21.519 some human attribute that God intended for good, 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:24.820 which caused them to desire something they shouldn't 00:14:24.820 --> 00:14:27.990 have. What is that attribute? What causes us 00:14:27.990 --> 00:14:31.029 to selfishly want something that is forbidden? 00:14:32.049 --> 00:14:35.409 All right, so let me just summarize this from 00:14:35.409 --> 00:14:37.970 what I'm reading in this question is God created 00:14:37.970 --> 00:14:41.409 everything good, yet we still sinned and there 00:14:41.409 --> 00:14:44.330 was still this desire or yearning from Adam and 00:14:44.330 --> 00:14:45.970 Eve for something that they knew they shouldn't 00:14:45.970 --> 00:14:48.590 have. So God made it good. What is the good thing 00:14:48.590 --> 00:14:53.070 in us that still can be perverted and long for 00:14:53.070 --> 00:14:55.860 something that is sinful? Yeah, I think, Great 00:14:55.860 --> 00:15:00.100 question, Rick. One that I don't know that I'm 00:15:00.100 --> 00:15:02.279 going to even do it close to justice that it 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:04.679 probably deserves. There's probably a much larger 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:08.240 conversation. I think what is interesting in 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:11.100 the garden, you have a couple of factors. You 00:15:11.100 --> 00:15:18.759 have a God who is love that creates out of love. 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:23.960 Well, love requires a choice, right? So the idea 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:27.279 that... that humans have a choice to choose God, 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:31.100 that's something that God looks at and goes, 00:15:31.179 --> 00:15:33.879 that's good because that's love, right? Like 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:36.240 you're going to choose what you love, essentially. 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:41.259 Then on top of that, while the humans don't have, 00:15:41.539 --> 00:15:47.799 like you said here, sin hasn't entered, but sin 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:50.779 has entered, and it's in the form of the enemy 00:15:50.779 --> 00:15:54.710 of God. So while everything that's been created 00:15:54.710 --> 00:15:59.309 in the creation narrative is very good, God isn't 00:15:59.309 --> 00:16:02.549 looking at Satan and going, that's very good, 00:16:02.610 --> 00:16:06.350 right? So you have the enemy of God that is now 00:16:06.350 --> 00:16:10.330 actively, and I'm hopefully going to get to the 00:16:10.330 --> 00:16:14.769 attribute, but the enemy of God is now attacking 00:16:14.769 --> 00:16:18.840 directly to that choice of love. And what the 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:21.659 enemy is doing is casting doubt, casting envy, 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:24.600 casting things that we would relate directly 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:29.080 to sin. And it's those things that are now competing 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:33.200 with God, right? Like the idea that you, and 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:35.820 I would even say in the original fall, he plays 00:16:35.820 --> 00:16:38.460 on the fact that you're limited. Humans knew 00:16:38.460 --> 00:16:43.379 from the get -go, like, we're not God. And yet, 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:46.509 what does he play on? Like, you can be. There's 00:16:46.509 --> 00:16:49.250 something more for you. There's beyond the limit 00:16:49.250 --> 00:16:51.129 that's been put in place. There's something you 00:16:51.129 --> 00:16:54.710 can grasp. And so I would, maybe the attribute, 00:16:54.769 --> 00:16:57.590 I don't know if this is necessarily the attribute, 00:16:57.669 --> 00:17:04.549 but I think Augustine talked about the idea of 00:17:04.549 --> 00:17:07.930 disordered love. That what happens in that moment 00:17:07.930 --> 00:17:11.049 is there's a disordering of love. And what happens 00:17:11.049 --> 00:17:13.549 is out of love because it's a choice. The choice 00:17:13.549 --> 00:17:17.859 is made. towards gaining more, towards pushing 00:17:17.859 --> 00:17:21.059 beyond that limit, towards something that they 00:17:21.059 --> 00:17:24.880 felt like, whether it was I don't like being 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.700 limited, I want to be like God, which was the 00:17:27.700 --> 00:17:30.539 same thing that when you look in Scripture, that's 00:17:30.539 --> 00:17:32.440 what you see attributed to Satan's fault, right? 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:36.079 Like, I want to be like God. And so that attribute, 00:17:36.259 --> 00:17:39.740 well, I don't know that that attribute was created 00:17:39.740 --> 00:17:42.220 by God and it can be used for good or for bad. 00:17:42.619 --> 00:17:45.839 I wonder if it's just love itself and love can 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:50.619 be used in a way that is God -like or love can 00:17:50.619 --> 00:17:52.640 be used in a very selfish way, right? And it's 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:54.880 actually not love. We disorder it and we put 00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:57.559 something in the place that actually isn't love. 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.920 Right. I don't know if that answers it or not. 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:03.740 Yeah, I think it does answer it. But I think 00:18:03.740 --> 00:18:06.140 it's, you know, yes, God created things good. 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:08.640 And what inside of us? Man, we always have a 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.549 choice. um god has given us free will so we do 00:18:11.549 --> 00:18:15.490 have that choice to be able to choose evil things 00:18:15.490 --> 00:18:17.549 so good you know sin hadn't entered the world 00:18:17.549 --> 00:18:19.789 because that choice hadn't been made it doesn't 00:18:19.789 --> 00:18:21.410 mean that they were not capable of making that 00:18:21.410 --> 00:18:23.970 choice right and so then they made when they 00:18:23.970 --> 00:18:26.089 made that choice obviously that's when sin came 00:18:26.089 --> 00:18:29.170 in and i just think of it you know as we are 00:18:29.170 --> 00:18:31.970 the same humans like yeah we have those choices 00:18:31.970 --> 00:18:35.309 as well you know how often are we led to do those 00:18:35.309 --> 00:18:38.039 things i mean i find myself with a thought or 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:40.420 something that i'm like man that was sinful while 00:18:40.420 --> 00:18:42.480 in the middle of worship yeah like literally 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.160 like at what like church worship like the music's 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:47.000 playing and i'm thinking and i'm like whoa i 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:49.359 just said in the middle of this like like everything 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:51.019 was good everything was great we were in the 00:18:51.019 --> 00:18:52.539 moment of pouring our hearts out to god and i 00:18:52.539 --> 00:18:54.900 still have this bend towards doing things that 00:18:54.900 --> 00:18:57.619 i know i shouldn't yeah and what you know yeah 00:18:57.619 --> 00:18:59.960 and i think i think with that like you go back 00:18:59.960 --> 00:19:04.759 to the to the falling of the angels right that 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:09.829 they are They are in, depending on how you view 00:19:09.829 --> 00:19:12.309 when that happened and what happened, but if 00:19:12.309 --> 00:19:16.410 you just take it at its rawest form, here's Satan 00:19:16.410 --> 00:19:19.849 making the choices Satan's making. And clearly, 00:19:19.869 --> 00:19:23.349 you are in the presence of God Almighty. And 00:19:23.349 --> 00:19:26.329 yes, it talks about the beauty of how God created 00:19:26.329 --> 00:19:30.230 the morning star, right? Which we believe to 00:19:30.230 --> 00:19:33.690 be attributed to Satan. So you look at this moment 00:19:33.690 --> 00:19:37.980 where the angels... like should have such a clear 00:19:37.980 --> 00:19:41.420 view of no you're a creative being that's the 00:19:41.420 --> 00:19:45.000 creator and the angels have the ability to follow 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.059 satan and it says a third of them fell right 00:19:47.059 --> 00:19:49.859 like so you've got a third of the angels that 00:19:49.859 --> 00:19:54.460 follow this wannabe i'm going to attain and become 00:19:54.460 --> 00:19:58.920 this ultimate supreme being and it's like but 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:01.680 you're created yeah right and and you begin to 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:04.960 play that out and you're like like What I love 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:09.960 about it is a God who is love creates with the 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:16.220 option to choose, which essentially removes the 00:20:16.220 --> 00:20:20.019 power from him and he puts it into his creation 00:20:20.019 --> 00:20:23.619 because he's putting in the attributes that he 00:20:23.619 --> 00:20:26.920 has. God is love, therefore he can only create 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:31.119 love, right? And so with that, I mean, it's fascinating 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:33.619 to me. And this is kind of off topic, but it's 00:20:33.619 --> 00:20:35.460 fascinating to me that the angels have a choice. 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:38.140 Yeah. It would have been easy to go, no, you 00:20:38.140 --> 00:20:41.079 are servants and therefore you don't have, you're 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:43.900 just going to do this. And so then you go, you 00:20:43.900 --> 00:20:45.680 play this out, right? Like, what does eternity 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.539 look like? Right. And it's not all of a sudden 00:20:48.539 --> 00:20:50.619 that's going to be removed. It makes my brain 00:20:50.619 --> 00:20:52.599 hurt. And where it could go and what it could 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:57.160 do. And that's where we just have to trust God's 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:00.119 hand and what he's doing will always be good. 00:21:00.509 --> 00:21:02.410 It will always be right. It will always be just. 00:21:02.569 --> 00:21:05.210 And it will always be love. And you just kind 00:21:05.210 --> 00:21:09.130 of sit in that and go, okay, what it is, I just 00:21:09.130 --> 00:21:12.309 got to trust. A deep, big question, Rick. Thank 00:21:12.309 --> 00:21:14.569 you so much for submitting that. Another question 00:21:14.569 --> 00:21:17.829 we had based on this weekend. Kate asks this. 00:21:17.890 --> 00:21:20.029 She said, church really hit home for me today. 00:21:20.490 --> 00:21:22.809 I'll be the first to admit that I tend to push 00:21:22.809 --> 00:21:26.069 myself beyond my limits until I end up exhausted 00:21:26.069 --> 00:21:29.029 and drained. During service, a question came 00:21:29.029 --> 00:21:32.430 to mind. How do I know what I'm supposed to carry 00:21:32.430 --> 00:21:35.029 and what I'm supposed to let go of? How do I 00:21:35.029 --> 00:21:38.170 discern what is truly from God and what may not 00:21:38.170 --> 00:21:42.450 be? I know that not everything God calls us to 00:21:42.450 --> 00:21:45.650 is easy. So how can I tell if I'm walking in 00:21:45.650 --> 00:21:47.589 the right direction versus chasing something 00:21:47.589 --> 00:21:51.430 that was never meant for me? Another phenomenal 00:21:51.430 --> 00:21:55.849 question. Such a good one. Kate, I think just 00:21:55.849 --> 00:21:59.000 kind of going back to yesterday, Kind of set 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:03.859 a context. It feels like, first of all, just 00:22:03.859 --> 00:22:07.559 thanks for your honesty and thanks for just the 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.539 encouragement. We, as communicators, anytime 00:22:10.539 --> 00:22:13.220 somebody goes, oh, that hit home, it means a 00:22:13.220 --> 00:22:18.119 lot. And so just thank you. But I think when 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:22.160 I look at Jesus and probably the Mark chapter 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:25.400 135 that we read this weekend, that might be 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:29.000 one of the clearest moments for me. to be able 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:33.140 to kind of walk through your questions. So Jesus 00:22:33.140 --> 00:22:37.400 has pressure before he goes to bed. He's got 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:40.099 demands. People want stuff from him. He gets 00:22:40.099 --> 00:22:43.240 up very early in the morning. So he's still inside 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:45.920 of the limits of a day, right? And so he's making 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:50.980 a choice to forego sleep to invest in his relationship 00:22:50.980 --> 00:22:54.099 with the Father. So as he goes away and he prays. 00:22:56.089 --> 00:22:58.109 Coming straight out of that prayer, you have 00:22:58.109 --> 00:23:01.390 Simon and his companions that show up and they 00:23:01.390 --> 00:23:06.230 go, hey, everybody's looking for you. Which translation 00:23:06.230 --> 00:23:08.869 is, there's a whole bunch of needs and everybody 00:23:08.869 --> 00:23:13.130 wants you. Jesus' response is, let's go somewhere 00:23:13.130 --> 00:23:17.430 else. So that idea that Jesus says no to needs 00:23:17.430 --> 00:23:21.650 that are in front of him. That just, for me, 00:23:21.869 --> 00:23:25.309 I didn't grow up with a Jesus that... said no 00:23:25.309 --> 00:23:27.750 right like i just felt like you know the jesus 00:23:27.750 --> 00:23:30.170 i was given as he he heals everybody and he does 00:23:30.170 --> 00:23:32.809 everything that everybody wants all the time 00:23:32.809 --> 00:23:34.849 right and yet when you look at it you go no this 00:23:34.849 --> 00:23:38.630 is a really clear moment so i think to to your 00:23:38.630 --> 00:23:41.750 question kate i think how are you supposed to 00:23:41.750 --> 00:23:43.890 know what to carry and what what to let go of 00:23:43.890 --> 00:23:47.009 i think that has to begin early in the morning 00:23:47.009 --> 00:23:49.349 in prayer right it doesn't have to be early in 00:23:49.349 --> 00:23:51.750 the morning but like as you're spending intentional 00:23:51.750 --> 00:23:56.759 time with the father with God. And it may be 00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:59.440 that you go, okay, I don't really get a sense 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:00.940 that God is doing anything. I think we've talked 00:24:00.940 --> 00:24:02.619 about that on here before, right? Like I don't, 00:24:02.619 --> 00:24:06.019 I don't get a clear yes or no from God. Well, 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:07.819 that feels like God's giving you the freedom 00:24:07.819 --> 00:24:10.559 to choose which way to go. So then I would say 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:13.599 you need to get some people around you that know 00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:17.500 you and know the situation and know, like we 00:24:17.500 --> 00:24:19.460 talked, I talked about this weekend again, like 00:24:19.460 --> 00:24:22.849 I have blind spots. When it comes to limits, 00:24:23.009 --> 00:24:26.210 I am not good at regulating my limits. Often 00:24:26.210 --> 00:24:30.230 it's my wife that tells me, um, you're, you're 00:24:30.230 --> 00:24:33.190 overextending yourself, right? It's been elders 00:24:33.190 --> 00:24:35.930 that have told me, uh, Bob is another one that 00:24:35.930 --> 00:24:38.230 will tell me like pretty consistently, you've 00:24:38.230 --> 00:24:41.750 got to let something go. Um, I want to just add 00:24:41.750 --> 00:24:45.369 stuff and, and, and it's people in my life group 00:24:45.369 --> 00:24:47.890 that'll go, Hey, is that really wise? Like, do 00:24:47.890 --> 00:24:49.789 you, do you think this is the season to take 00:24:49.789 --> 00:24:55.059 that? Right. I remember coming out of COVID, 00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:58.240 probably two years out of COVID, I think it was 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:01.660 being asked to jump into high school soccer. 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.259 And it was so hard to say no, and yet it was 00:25:05.259 --> 00:25:08.940 the right decision. And I can't say that I heard 00:25:08.940 --> 00:25:13.079 a clear from God, do not do this, right? What 00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:17.500 I heard was, the choice is mine. And I went and 00:25:17.500 --> 00:25:19.039 talked to a whole bunch of people and it became 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:23.180 clear that the demands of that weren't wise to 00:25:23.180 --> 00:25:26.299 take on at that time. And so I think with it, 00:25:26.299 --> 00:25:30.680 to go back to this idea of you'll push yourself 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:33.940 beyond, that's where people can help you know 00:25:33.940 --> 00:25:36.480 when you're doing that. In the midst of choosing 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:39.380 what you're supposed to carry and let go, I think 00:25:39.380 --> 00:25:43.039 there is a conversation there. Like if God hasn't 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:45.549 been clear. then there is a conversation with 00:25:45.549 --> 00:25:47.769 people that go, Hey, you probably shouldn't pick 00:25:47.769 --> 00:25:49.309 this up right now. Yeah. I think community is 00:25:49.309 --> 00:25:52.269 huge in that, you know, just to know your limits. 00:25:52.289 --> 00:25:54.369 It is hard to know your limits, especially if 00:25:54.369 --> 00:25:56.769 you have a compassionate heart because the answer 00:25:56.769 --> 00:25:58.569 is always yes. Yeah. I'll do that. I'll do this. 00:25:58.569 --> 00:26:00.089 I'll do the other thing. And you can need somebody 00:26:00.089 --> 00:26:02.230 in your life to go, Hey, this isn't the best 00:26:02.230 --> 00:26:05.210 use of your time. If you were past your limit 00:26:05.210 --> 00:26:08.789 in this, you know, because we know that the further 00:26:08.789 --> 00:26:11.890 we get past our limit, the more, the less effective 00:26:11.890 --> 00:26:14.920 we are in whatever we're doing. If you don't 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:18.160 know this, how many good decisions are made when 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:21.680 you've stayed up till midnight or beyond? Not 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:23.500 many. That makes sense. Such good ones. They 00:26:23.500 --> 00:26:25.619 normally involve Oreos, but not with my face 00:26:25.619 --> 00:26:28.420 on them. Yeah. And that's what I mean is I think 00:26:28.420 --> 00:26:30.619 we know this when it comes to certain practical 00:26:30.619 --> 00:26:32.440 things. Like if I stay up super late and don't 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:33.799 have enough sleep, I usually don't make good 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:38.140 decisions. If I do a full workout and then go 00:26:38.140 --> 00:26:40.700 try to run, probably not going to be very good 00:26:40.700 --> 00:26:42.960 at my running or activity or whatever it is. 00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.640 Yeah. Man, if you have so many things in your 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.140 life that you are chasing or doing or trying 00:26:48.140 --> 00:26:51.140 to hold that you're not able to do the things 00:26:51.140 --> 00:26:53.900 that God wants you to do well, now we've got 00:26:53.900 --> 00:26:55.759 a problem. But I think community is the one that 00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.779 helps us do that. And again, there's a lot of 00:26:58.779 --> 00:27:00.680 good things out there that we just have to be 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.400 able to say, that's good, and I'll participate 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.700 in the way that I can, but I can't. There's a 00:27:07.700 --> 00:27:10.460 limit for me. One that comes to mind for me is 00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:12.539 we have an incredible young adult ministry here 00:27:12.539 --> 00:27:15.299 at the church. And I speak in the young adult 00:27:15.299 --> 00:27:20.500 ministry probably six times in a school year, 00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:25.259 which means that I attend six times in a school 00:27:25.259 --> 00:27:27.920 year. Now in a school year, they're having probably 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:31.619 35 to 40 gatherings. I'm only there six times. 00:27:31.900 --> 00:27:33.700 Well, Todd, you're the pastor. Why aren't you 00:27:33.700 --> 00:27:36.359 there? Because I have these limits where it's 00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.579 a good thing and I can participate to a certain 00:27:38.579 --> 00:27:40.759 degree, but I can't be there every week because 00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:43.619 I would not be giving my best. to not only the 00:27:43.619 --> 00:27:45.359 ministry, but I wouldn't be giving the best to 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:47.759 my family. I wouldn't be giving my best to different 00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:51.500 areas. So there's a limit that's in place that 00:27:51.500 --> 00:27:54.559 a lot of times is driven by the people in my 00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.299 life. You are one of them. Pastor Bob's one of 00:27:57.299 --> 00:27:58.740 them. And my wife's one of them that has said, 00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:01.339 hey, Todd, you can't go every week. And it's 00:28:01.339 --> 00:28:03.779 allowed it to be what it's supposed to be, but 00:28:03.779 --> 00:28:05.259 it's because of the community in my life. And 00:28:05.259 --> 00:28:07.299 the beauty of that is it's the people that see 00:28:07.299 --> 00:28:10.640 the cost, right? That's how Cindy is in my world. 00:28:10.700 --> 00:28:14.769 And Bob's that way too. But they can see a cost 00:28:14.769 --> 00:28:19.970 to it, whether it's Cindy and the kiddos, what 00:28:19.970 --> 00:28:22.970 quality they will get from me, right? Nobody 00:28:22.970 --> 00:28:26.150 doubts that not only could you attend those 40 00:28:26.150 --> 00:28:30.049 or 35 or whatever it is, you could also speak 00:28:30.049 --> 00:28:33.349 at every one of those. Like the ability to do 00:28:33.349 --> 00:28:37.029 that and put together, now the quality of messages 00:28:37.029 --> 00:28:38.809 may go down because of the amount you're doing, 00:28:38.910 --> 00:28:41.619 right? At the same time, you have the ability 00:28:41.619 --> 00:28:44.500 to do that. It's not a lack of ability. And I 00:28:44.500 --> 00:28:49.000 think that's where the helpfulness of community 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:55.980 is, hey, I don't know if you see this cost. And 00:28:55.980 --> 00:28:58.299 I don't have any emotional tag to it, right? 00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:01.579 I think that's probably another thing is if you're 00:29:01.579 --> 00:29:06.089 wrestling with this, Kate is asking. Okay, who 00:29:06.089 --> 00:29:08.970 can I ask that has no emotional? So if I go to 00:29:08.970 --> 00:29:10.650 young adults, good example. If I go to young 00:29:10.650 --> 00:29:14.029 adults and I go, hey, Todd's not going to speak. 00:29:15.250 --> 00:29:16.890 They're probably going to have an emotional investment, 00:29:17.009 --> 00:29:19.069 right? Or if you go and go, hey, should I speak 00:29:19.069 --> 00:29:21.650 six or eight? Oh, definitely eight, right? Like, 00:29:21.690 --> 00:29:23.349 you know, they're just going to have a different 00:29:23.349 --> 00:29:25.410 lens because they're emotionally invested into 00:29:25.410 --> 00:29:29.009 that space. Right. Versus when you ask somebody. 00:29:30.250 --> 00:29:32.930 and they can give you an objective, hey, this 00:29:32.930 --> 00:29:34.950 is what I see, this is what I sense, this is 00:29:34.950 --> 00:29:37.170 what I feel like the Holy Spirit's asking me 00:29:37.170 --> 00:29:39.750 to tell you, right? Or this is what I sense from 00:29:39.750 --> 00:29:42.549 a wisdom perspective. And then the other thing 00:29:42.549 --> 00:29:44.950 that just came to mind as you were saying that 00:29:44.950 --> 00:29:49.630 is if you end up exhausted and drained, I'm catching 00:29:49.630 --> 00:29:53.470 myself now when I go, oh, I'm exhausted, to ask, 00:29:53.569 --> 00:29:57.109 am I over a limit? And if so, which one? And 00:29:57.109 --> 00:29:59.269 it's just been such a helpful, quick technique 00:29:59.269 --> 00:30:02.849 for me because what quickly gets framed is, no, 00:30:02.869 --> 00:30:06.829 it's just the day. Yeah. Right? Versus this is 00:30:06.829 --> 00:30:08.950 a repeated pattern that happens, right? Like 00:30:08.950 --> 00:30:12.009 I got done last Tuesday. I think I got home close 00:30:12.009 --> 00:30:14.829 to 9 o 'clock. We'd had elders that night. My 00:30:14.829 --> 00:30:17.470 day started at 6 in the morning. And I got home 00:30:17.470 --> 00:30:21.509 and I'm like, I'm exhausted. And I caught myself 00:30:21.509 --> 00:30:24.450 and went, okay, am I over my limits? Well, no. 00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:28.400 It just, today is a day that isn't normal, right? 00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:30.880 Okay, well, that's fine. Yeah, there's exceptions 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.839 to this. But when you live in that state, this 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.380 last weekend for me was a big one. I had my father's 00:30:36.380 --> 00:30:38.720 memorial service. And man, I can't tell you how 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.700 exhausted I was after the interactions I had, 00:30:41.740 --> 00:30:45.160 everything. It's unavoidable. That is what it 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:47.259 is. That's a one -off. That's literally never 00:30:47.259 --> 00:30:49.259 going to happen again. There's only one memorial 00:30:49.259 --> 00:30:52.720 for my father. It's done. And so it's not like... 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.839 I'm living in this limit. It's going, hey, that's 00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:58.319 where that was. Yeah. And I think that's such 00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:02.539 a good example though, right? To go, it's a one 00:31:02.539 --> 00:31:05.720 -off, but you may find yourself on Thursday or 00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:09.559 even today going, I'm exhausted. But there's 00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.920 a reason why. And it's not something that's baked 00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:15.759 into a pace that you're carrying, that you're 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.660 going, and there'll be a point when you bounce 00:31:18.660 --> 00:31:20.960 back from the exhaustion of the event, right? 00:31:22.190 --> 00:31:24.349 When your kids get married, it's exhausting, 00:31:24.690 --> 00:31:27.009 right? Like pulling off a wedding and all the 00:31:27.009 --> 00:31:31.009 details and the travel. You genuinely are just 00:31:31.009 --> 00:31:33.210 exhausted from it, right? Like I'm over my limits. 00:31:33.390 --> 00:31:35.789 If I have another wedding next weekend, it's 00:31:35.789 --> 00:31:38.309 not going to be healthy. And giving your time 00:31:38.309 --> 00:31:41.930 to recover and go, okay, there's a reason I am 00:31:41.930 --> 00:31:45.410 this way and I'm exhausted to that point. But 00:31:45.410 --> 00:31:48.970 that's not a normal pattern. One other thought 00:31:48.970 --> 00:31:53.799 just within the... chasing something that was 00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.960 never meant for me. I think one of the ways to 00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.200 guard against that is to ask the Lord what is 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.920 meant for me. And when you figure out what that 00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:07.380 is, that becomes the vision of where you put 00:32:07.380 --> 00:32:11.640 your enemy or enemy, your energy. Oreos are kicking 00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:17.119 in. Energy and where you put your resources and 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:20.619 divide your time and all of that, right? Like 00:32:20.619 --> 00:32:23.200 you go, okay, this is what I'm called to. And 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.559 if you don't know that, then that is a good conversation 00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:28.240 for you and the Lord and people that know you. 00:32:28.299 --> 00:32:31.099 Because most times people around you can go, 00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:35.440 oh, yeah, this is like on you. God has granted 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:40.759 you not only skills, abilities, whatever. Sometimes 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.000 it's like there's a calling on your life that 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:46.400 you need to step into this. Yeah, Kate, thank 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.319 you for the question. And Kate. Thanks for just 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.160 even asking. I'm excited that you asked it because 00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:52.799 I think the first step in knowing our limits 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.500 is asking the question of where's our limits. 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:57.539 And I think the encouragement I would have is, 00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.339 you know, for all of us is, have you ever even 00:33:00.339 --> 00:33:02.059 asked that question to God? So start just by 00:33:02.059 --> 00:33:03.859 asking God, hey, where are my limits? Like, this 00:33:03.859 --> 00:33:05.599 is a question I have. The exact question you 00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.960 wrote us. Ask God that question. Can I have one 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.059 more thought? No. Is that okay? Just kidding. 00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:14.539 She says, I know that not everything God calls 00:33:14.539 --> 00:33:18.299 us to is easy. That is a great line to hold on 00:33:18.299 --> 00:33:20.900 to because limits doesn't mean easy, right? Like 00:33:20.900 --> 00:33:23.480 limits doesn't mean that life can't be hard and 00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.319 we're, we're pressing and pushing and, and it's 00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:30.160 a lot to carry, right? Limits is I got to a point 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:31.779 that I'm carrying, like she says at the end, 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:34.460 I'm carrying something I shouldn't be. I'm extending 00:33:34.460 --> 00:33:37.019 myself beyond. And so just, I love that line. 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.599 I think it's so important because limits doesn't 00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:41.380 mean, okay, I'm not doing anything and I'm only 00:33:41.380 --> 00:33:43.339 doing what's easy. That's, that's not what the 00:33:43.339 --> 00:33:46.859 conversation is. All right. One more question 00:33:46.859 --> 00:33:49.319 that we have is somewhat of a follow -up question 00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:53.220 on this idea of limits and rest and even sleep 00:33:53.220 --> 00:33:55.420 that we talked about a couple of weeks ago. Lynn 00:33:55.420 --> 00:33:57.839 writes this question and she says, I do imagine 00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.319 I'm doing a Sabbath rest day, but I go to the 00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:05.259 gym and I work out hard or I go on a hard hike 00:34:05.259 --> 00:34:08.139 in the woods or I exhaust myself in a long round 00:34:08.139 --> 00:34:12.699 of golf. Is that still Sabbath rest because I'm 00:34:12.699 --> 00:34:16.340 enjoying it or Do I really need to stay home 00:34:16.340 --> 00:34:19.639 and relax all day talking to God? That's a good 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:24.619 question. There's a lot of thoughts around Sabbath 00:34:24.619 --> 00:34:26.619 and what it is, and it can be confusing. And 00:34:26.619 --> 00:34:27.960 we're actually going to talk about it this weekend. 00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.059 We're going to get into kind of how does Sabbath 00:34:31.059 --> 00:34:34.820 then fit with limits and rhythms that God kind 00:34:34.820 --> 00:34:37.679 of built into us, tied back into the garden some. 00:34:37.820 --> 00:34:40.500 But is this Lynn? Is this the Lynn that I think 00:34:40.500 --> 00:34:43.579 it is? This is the Lynn, yeah. Fun thing about 00:34:43.579 --> 00:34:48.480 Lynn, she was on camera two weeks ago. And watching 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:52.260 her have such excitement. So from camera, for 00:34:52.260 --> 00:34:54.300 those of you who don't know, she's on a camera 00:34:54.300 --> 00:34:56.940 at the back of the room. And she's in all three 00:34:56.940 --> 00:35:02.460 of our Prescott gatherings. And so on that weekend, 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.760 she's watching the room worship. And she has 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.980 such a genuine excitement for what God is doing 00:35:08.980 --> 00:35:11.079 in worship. It was just the coolest thing to 00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:14.059 see. She's running a camera. Like she would have 00:35:14.059 --> 00:35:16.219 been easy for her to not notice what was happening 00:35:16.219 --> 00:35:19.119 around her. And so it's just fun to see her step 00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:22.199 in that way and be excited. But when it comes 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:26.659 to Sabbath rest and it comes to, and again, we're 00:35:26.659 --> 00:35:30.840 going to talk about this this weekend, but I 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.239 think when it, I'm trying to figure out how much 00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:36.860 to say and how much to say for the weekend right 00:35:36.860 --> 00:35:41.619 now. Rest and worship. rest and worship, rest 00:35:41.619 --> 00:35:45.320 and worship, that they can be pretty good gauges 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:49.559 for what a Sabbath day looks like. What I would 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:54.039 couple with that is rest and worship with people, 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:58.780 right? And by people, it's those that are in 00:35:58.780 --> 00:36:02.780 your circle, whatever that circle looks like, 00:36:02.820 --> 00:36:07.300 right? And so I think to your point of the round 00:36:07.300 --> 00:36:12.000 of golf, If golf is exhausting you, then it may 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.219 not be restful. But the next person can go out 00:36:15.219 --> 00:36:18.239 and golf and they come back so full of like, 00:36:18.340 --> 00:36:21.880 I was outdoors, I didn't play well, I'm physically 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.800 tired, but my soul is full from being outdoors 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.599 in creation and playing a game that's competitive 00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.219 and the people I was golfing with and getting 00:36:30.219 --> 00:36:34.000 time with them, right? So I think it really is 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.679 very, very individual to go, what is actually 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:40.880 rest for me? Well, and I would say rest is holistic, 00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:43.820 right? So you have a spiritual, you have an emotional, 00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.320 and you have a physical. Physically for me, ways 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.980 that I feel rested and rejuvenated is through 00:36:49.980 --> 00:36:53.400 fun, right? So doing fun just because I enjoy 00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.900 it or it's fun doesn't mean like, oh man, I liked 00:36:55.900 --> 00:36:58.920 it. It couldn't have been restful. Like I get 00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:00.840 filled up with those things. Like rest is supposed 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:02.940 to fill you back up. So doing things that are 00:37:02.940 --> 00:37:09.239 going to fill you up is rest. a ritual or a rhythm 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:13.179 that you may call a Sabbath, there is a component 00:37:13.179 --> 00:37:15.000 to it where there is spiritual rest as well, 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.739 which involves worship. It involves filling your 00:37:18.739 --> 00:37:20.920 cup spiritually and not just, man, I had a great 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.360 time partying today. That's not what it is. Sure, 00:37:23.420 --> 00:37:26.639 you had fun, but there's a holistic aspect to 00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:29.579 it, which I believe fun plays into that holistic 00:37:29.579 --> 00:37:34.340 aspect. However, it may not be as long as it 00:37:34.340 --> 00:37:37.849 is viewed holistically. So it is a part of it, 00:37:37.869 --> 00:37:41.150 but it cannot be the whole. And in the same way 00:37:41.150 --> 00:37:44.630 that if you're just go act like a monk for a 00:37:44.630 --> 00:37:46.869 day and never see a person or do anything fun 00:37:46.869 --> 00:37:48.969 whatsoever and chastise yourself for any fun 00:37:48.969 --> 00:37:51.449 that you may have, that's also not what it is 00:37:51.449 --> 00:37:54.969 in my view. Well, on a hard day, it's hike in 00:37:54.969 --> 00:37:59.190 the woods, right? Like I know a dear friend who 00:37:59.190 --> 00:38:02.610 used to be on staff that actually teaches Sabbath. 00:38:04.789 --> 00:38:08.329 He calls it his Sabbath hike. And it's a complete 00:38:08.329 --> 00:38:12.230 reset for him. Now, physically, he's hiking, 00:38:12.389 --> 00:38:15.409 right? Like physically, he's putting in work. 00:38:16.210 --> 00:38:18.369 But what it does for him emotionally, mentally, 00:38:18.530 --> 00:38:20.969 spiritually, right? Like even physically, because 00:38:20.969 --> 00:38:24.090 a lot of his week was sitting. And so getting 00:38:24.090 --> 00:38:26.289 out physically, it was good for him, even though 00:38:26.289 --> 00:38:28.550 there's a tiredness that comes physically. And 00:38:28.550 --> 00:38:32.809 so, yeah, I'm with you. It's very holistic. And 00:38:32.809 --> 00:38:35.510 he would... On his hike, it was a conversation 00:38:35.510 --> 00:38:38.429 with God. So there's this spiritual component 00:38:38.429 --> 00:38:41.489 of he's very aware. A lot of times he would listen 00:38:41.489 --> 00:38:43.789 to worship music while he went because that's 00:38:43.789 --> 00:38:45.989 what put his mind in a space to have a conversation 00:38:45.989 --> 00:38:50.650 with God and be in awe of creation. And so I 00:38:50.650 --> 00:38:53.929 think it really does vary by person. And I agree 00:38:53.929 --> 00:38:56.869 with you. It's holistically, what does it look 00:38:56.869 --> 00:39:01.829 like for me to honor God with my limits that 00:39:01.829 --> 00:39:07.210 I am human? And I do need mental reset, physical 00:39:07.210 --> 00:39:10.550 reset, emotional reset. Like I can't just keep 00:39:10.550 --> 00:39:13.710 going. I wasn't made to be a machine. And that's 00:39:13.710 --> 00:39:16.849 kind of the concept of Sabbath is that there's 00:39:16.849 --> 00:39:20.090 freedom to slow down and go, okay, what? And 00:39:20.090 --> 00:39:22.929 it's supposed to be fun. Like it's not supposed 00:39:22.929 --> 00:39:26.369 to be this chore to have a Sabbath. It's supposed 00:39:26.369 --> 00:39:30.440 to be something that is. you're excited for like 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.940 you're looking forward to that your family is 00:39:32.940 --> 00:39:34.980 looking forward to because it's like we do this 00:39:34.980 --> 00:39:37.980 thing i was just reading about one guy who um 00:39:37.980 --> 00:39:42.099 they do the you know the pizookies oh yeah so 00:39:42.099 --> 00:39:44.960 my favorite things they do that at home that's 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.300 awesome um and that's one of their sabbath traditions 00:39:47.300 --> 00:39:49.900 is a big old cookie and a cast iron thing and 00:39:49.900 --> 00:39:51.860 dump the ice cream on and then they all eat it 00:39:51.860 --> 00:39:54.380 together now i'm hungry and they won't we got 00:39:54.380 --> 00:39:57.000 oreos you did it for me Well, and they talk about, 00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.280 and I thought this was, because it's both and, 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:03.179 right? So it's the enjoyment of food and people 00:40:03.179 --> 00:40:07.019 and age appropriate for their kiddos and all 00:40:07.019 --> 00:40:10.039 that. But then they engage in, hey, what's been 00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:12.619 good this week? Let's have gratitude around what's 00:40:12.619 --> 00:40:16.059 happened this week. It's good. And he was saying, 00:40:16.099 --> 00:40:18.079 like, that's something he looks forward to. There's 00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:20.699 an excitement for it. And it's not just him. 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:22.659 It's his kids. Like, are we doing pizookies tonight? 00:40:22.739 --> 00:40:26.369 Yeah. And so, yeah, I think too that, Lynn, I 00:40:26.369 --> 00:40:30.070 would question the nothing wrong with going to 00:40:30.070 --> 00:40:32.690 the gym and working out if that's something that's 00:40:32.690 --> 00:40:35.750 life -giving and builds into you. One of mine 00:40:35.750 --> 00:40:40.429 for my Sabbath is I do my longest ride of the 00:40:40.429 --> 00:40:45.710 week on my Sabbath. And yeah, so physically, 00:40:45.949 --> 00:40:48.010 absolutely. It's harder than I work. On your 00:40:48.010 --> 00:40:49.250 bike, by the way. On my bike. That's what his 00:40:49.250 --> 00:40:51.010 ride is. On my bike. It's not. Yeah. See how 00:40:51.010 --> 00:40:55.550 far you can drive. Yeah. Hopefully that answers 00:40:55.550 --> 00:40:58.469 that question for you, Lynn. And that actually 00:40:58.469 --> 00:41:00.809 concludes all of our questions today. So if you 00:41:00.809 --> 00:41:02.070 made it this far, you're part of the end of the 00:41:02.070 --> 00:41:06.050 podcast club. I do have a very important announcement 00:41:06.050 --> 00:41:08.389 for our podcast. I should have given it. Man, 00:41:08.469 --> 00:41:10.110 I should have given it a pregnant pause. Oh, 00:41:10.150 --> 00:41:15.670 you should have. This is getting weird. I do 00:41:15.670 --> 00:41:18.670 have an announcement for our podcast fam. Next 00:41:18.670 --> 00:41:20.769 week is we've gone back and forth on this. Next 00:41:20.769 --> 00:41:23.210 week is Memorial Day, which is when we record. 00:41:23.469 --> 00:41:26.090 We have decided we have limits and we do not 00:41:26.090 --> 00:41:28.989 want to come in on Memorial Day to we're going 00:41:28.989 --> 00:41:30.750 to set a limit that next week we're taking a 00:41:30.750 --> 00:41:34.510 one week pause on the pod. So. Nice. We will 00:41:34.510 --> 00:41:36.650 not have an episode for you next week, so you 00:41:36.650 --> 00:41:38.150 can just re -listen to this one if you want to. 00:41:38.170 --> 00:41:41.730 Happy Memorial Day. But we do value all of you. 00:41:41.769 --> 00:41:45.070 Thank you so much for either watching this or 00:41:45.070 --> 00:41:46.949 listening to this, but just being a part of the 00:41:46.949 --> 00:41:51.170 podcast fam. So rate, review, like, submit questions, 00:41:51.449 --> 00:41:54.590 all the things. Do it all. All the things. We 00:41:54.590 --> 00:41:56.880 challenge you this week to do all of that. Do 00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:59.900 all the things. Final thought I have for you 00:41:59.900 --> 00:42:02.800 today is this, is your limit is not the limit 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.000 of somebody around you. It is your limit. And 00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.599 so it is a question you need to ask God and you 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.400 need to wrestle with to decide what God has for 00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:12.780 you, what God wants for you, and how do you walk 00:42:12.780 --> 00:42:15.440 in the best that he has for you in all those 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:18.139 areas. Thank you guys so much. Love you. See 00:42:18.139 --> 00:42:29.909 you in two weeks. Love you. Thank you.