WEBVTT 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:08.560 What is up, everybody? Welcome to the Heights 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:12.039 Unedited Podcast, where we talk about real life 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:14.300 and culture and something else. You're so bad 00:00:14.300 --> 00:00:16.500 at it. I have to do it for real. I paused to 00:00:16.500 --> 00:00:17.620 see if you would keep it. I could read it if 00:00:17.620 --> 00:00:19.199 you want. You want me to read it? Because that's 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:21.140 what you do. Can you do it? Where we dig deeper 00:00:21.140 --> 00:00:23.239 into the weekend message as well as answering 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.539 your questions on faith, culture, and life. Wow. 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:31.920 I love how you slowed down at the... That was 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:36.130 like... Can we record? Can we get that snippet 00:00:36.130 --> 00:00:39.770 and just keep playing that? That was so good. 00:00:39.810 --> 00:00:41.770 This might be the first episode we have to restart 00:00:41.770 --> 00:00:44.030 the intro of because... No, we're unedited. No, 00:00:44.049 --> 00:00:45.509 we're unedited. We're good. We don't do that. 00:00:45.549 --> 00:00:46.850 We're good. Well, I do want to welcome everyone. 00:00:46.850 --> 00:00:48.189 Don't tell me to do that as if it doesn't record. 00:00:48.969 --> 00:00:50.250 Which that's only happened once. That's only 00:00:50.250 --> 00:00:52.649 happened one time. One time. And we're on episode 00:00:52.649 --> 00:00:57.329 64 today. 64. We made it 64. We've never edited. 00:00:57.850 --> 00:01:00.350 And... I want to thank all of our faithful listeners 00:01:00.350 --> 00:01:04.010 that have made it to episode 64 with us. I've 00:01:04.010 --> 00:01:06.530 got a lot of positive feedback from people just 00:01:06.530 --> 00:01:09.489 in the last week or so, specifically about the 00:01:09.489 --> 00:01:12.290 podcast, which has been like... Like new people 00:01:12.290 --> 00:01:14.049 or people that have been on the show? Just people 00:01:14.049 --> 00:01:16.030 going, man, that last episode was so good or 00:01:16.030 --> 00:01:19.069 that really helped me understand this or thank 00:01:19.069 --> 00:01:20.109 you for answering that question. Do you ever 00:01:20.109 --> 00:01:21.969 think when you have a week like that, that all 00:01:21.969 --> 00:01:23.790 the other ones when you don't get anything, you're 00:01:23.790 --> 00:01:26.359 like... man we must have sucked this week uh 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.180 sometimes i do but then i also like if it goes 00:01:29.180 --> 00:01:30.799 enough weeks without getting something like that 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:32.719 you know i'm like do we keep doing the pod i 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:34.579 don't know and then that happens and i'm like 00:01:34.579 --> 00:01:38.540 okay we're like okay we're here yeah we uh we 00:01:38.540 --> 00:01:41.340 got two really exciting things uh that i want 00:01:41.340 --> 00:01:43.739 to share one is we got a five -star review so 00:01:43.739 --> 00:01:46.439 i'm gonna go ahead and read that right now if 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:48.120 you are interested in leaving a five -star review 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:53.019 you can do that via the podcast store the apple 00:01:53.019 --> 00:01:54.859 podcast store that's how we do it is that the 00:01:54.859 --> 00:01:57.359 only place you can do a five -star yeah we don't 00:01:57.359 --> 00:01:59.819 collect them from any other place so okay so 00:01:59.819 --> 00:02:01.579 we need to have a serious talk wait can you do 00:02:01.579 --> 00:02:05.120 it on another spot or no no it's just the apple 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:08.280 podcast store so you gotta smash the like if 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:09.919 you're not on the apple podcast store if you're 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:11.900 on the apple podcast store You got to go and 00:02:11.900 --> 00:02:13.759 leave a review. Got to leave a review. Do you 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.620 think people know when I say smash the like what 00:02:15.620 --> 00:02:17.919 I mean? No. Like a thumbs up? No idea. You got 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:19.379 to press that thumbs up. You got to subscribe. 00:02:19.699 --> 00:02:21.120 Judging from the fact. You got to subscribe because 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.099 then you would get told that we're doing it. 00:02:23.219 --> 00:02:24.939 Judging from the fact that this weekend you said 00:02:24.939 --> 00:02:27.120 Ryan Trahan and not a single person had any clue 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:29.139 who he was. Oh, my goodness. I'm thinking you 00:02:29.139 --> 00:02:31.439 probably have to explain YouTube. Every gathering. 00:02:32.669 --> 00:02:35.330 Every gathering. I think it was the 8 o 'clock. 00:02:35.370 --> 00:02:38.169 One person. The guy's got like 30 million followers 00:02:38.169 --> 00:02:41.090 and none of them are Heights people. None. In 00:02:41.090 --> 00:02:45.129 fact, at one point, I don't remember which gathering 00:02:45.129 --> 00:02:47.530 it was at. I wanted to throw out like, you guys 00:02:47.530 --> 00:02:50.169 know what YouTube is? Anybody use YouTube? Anybody 00:02:50.169 --> 00:02:56.020 use? Okay, well, getting to our review here. 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:58.319 Five stars. So hit the thumbs up. The thumbs 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.520 up on YouTube. The thumbsy up. And subscribe. 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:03.439 Or give us a review on the Apple Podcast Store, 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.479 just like Candice Thomas did. Five -star review. 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:08.039 There should be a sound for that. Candice says 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:09.699 this. There should be a sound for that. There 00:03:09.699 --> 00:03:13.120 should. Can we get on that? Candice Thomas. Yeah, 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:15.099 that's a good one. Apparently, they're broken 00:03:15.099 --> 00:03:18.080 trumpets that are the sound for a five -star 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:22.199 review at this point. Okay, here we go. Candace 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:24.819 Thomas, thank you for saying God is at work here 00:03:24.819 --> 00:03:27.439 at Heights. I love being a part of this church 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.860 family. This podcast is an encouraging and easy 00:03:30.860 --> 00:03:33.840 way as a busy mom of three to continue the weekend 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:37.599 message into my week. I love how the real life 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:40.719 questions are sometimes the exact question my 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:44.080 husband or I had during or after Sunday service. 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:46.960 Thank you for taking the time to continue and 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:50.569 go deeper on the message. That's amazing. Thank 00:03:50.569 --> 00:03:52.830 you, Candice. So nice. Thank you so much. You 00:03:52.830 --> 00:03:54.710 and your husband, thank you for being a part 00:03:54.710 --> 00:03:56.569 of the church, but also thanks for the review. 00:03:56.770 --> 00:04:00.289 That's amazing. Busy mom of three, and you took 00:04:00.289 --> 00:04:03.330 time to write a five -star. Yeah. That's impressive. 00:04:03.610 --> 00:04:04.689 That is very impressive. That is impressive. 00:04:04.830 --> 00:04:06.770 Taking time to listen to the pod and to write 00:04:06.770 --> 00:04:08.349 a five -star. And be at church on the weekend. 00:04:08.990 --> 00:04:11.169 Yeah. Poster child. That's a five -star. That's 00:04:11.169 --> 00:04:12.930 a poster child. I want to give you a five -star 00:04:12.930 --> 00:04:16.610 review, Candice. That's a working trumpet. All 00:04:16.610 --> 00:04:20.269 right, this is just going downhill quickly. So 00:04:20.269 --> 00:04:22.550 if you guys are still listening, man, special 00:04:22.550 --> 00:04:25.209 thank you to you. You made it to the beginning 00:04:25.209 --> 00:04:28.730 of the podcast club. Which needs another one. 00:04:28.810 --> 00:04:31.930 Yeah, apparently we need another one here. We 00:04:31.930 --> 00:04:33.750 do have some questions that I want to hop into. 00:04:33.870 --> 00:04:36.750 Before I hop into that, though, man, you carried 00:04:36.750 --> 00:04:39.889 around a backpack on stage. No, it wasn't a backpack. 00:04:40.050 --> 00:04:43.670 You carried around a... massive camping pack. 00:04:43.769 --> 00:04:46.329 Like how are you feeling today? Uh, I actually 00:04:46.329 --> 00:04:47.870 don't feel too bad. I thought I'd feel a lot 00:04:47.870 --> 00:04:50.470 worse. We'll see how it feels tomorrow. Cause 00:04:50.470 --> 00:04:52.410 I've realized I'm at that age where it's not 00:04:52.410 --> 00:04:54.629 the first day. Like when you're younger and you 00:04:54.629 --> 00:04:56.050 play a sport, you're like, Oh, I kind of hurt 00:04:56.050 --> 00:04:58.769 today. Yeah, no, now it's the second day. So 00:04:58.769 --> 00:05:00.769 we'll see how I feel tomorrow. Shoulders are 00:05:00.769 --> 00:05:02.990 a little sore, right? Hips a little sore. I think 00:05:02.990 --> 00:05:04.850 I was propping up on the right hip, maybe a little 00:05:04.850 --> 00:05:07.949 more, but, uh, also that pack is not made for 00:05:07.949 --> 00:05:12.000 someone my size. Like it was, Fitted for the 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:16.699 beard who – how tall are you, beard? 6 '4". I 00:05:16.699 --> 00:05:21.319 am not 6 '4". How tall are you? 5 '10 1⁄2". I 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.339 love the half. Anyone under 6 '0 has to throw 00:05:24.339 --> 00:05:27.079 the half in. Oh, yeah. I'm 5 '11 1⁄2", so, you 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:31.379 know. You're 5 '11 1⁄2"? I'm 5 '11. There you 00:05:31.379 --> 00:05:36.060 go. Yeah, so the pack was – so I loved it because 00:05:36.060 --> 00:05:38.709 – When we got to the massive verse and it says, 00:05:38.730 --> 00:05:41.670 I won't put anything ill -fitting or heavy, I 00:05:41.670 --> 00:05:44.569 was like, this thing is both of those. So we're 00:05:44.569 --> 00:05:46.449 done with this. But yeah. That's good. A little 00:05:46.449 --> 00:05:48.829 sore today. A little sore, but we're fine. That's 00:05:48.829 --> 00:05:51.310 good. But mentally sharp. Physically beaten down, 00:05:51.410 --> 00:05:53.850 mentally sharp. Mentally sharp. Okay, here we 00:05:53.850 --> 00:05:56.509 go. First question that we have coming in is 00:05:56.509 --> 00:05:59.149 from Anthony. Anthony asks this, I recently came 00:05:59.149 --> 00:06:02.850 across a preacher online who seems solid, but 00:06:02.850 --> 00:06:05.589 has been using wording that suggests... He is 00:06:05.589 --> 00:06:09.449 a prophet sent to America by God. I really value 00:06:09.449 --> 00:06:12.110 your perspective on how believers should understand 00:06:12.110 --> 00:06:14.509 and evaluate statements like that from a biblical 00:06:14.509 --> 00:06:19.149 standpoint. So somebody claiming to be a prophet 00:06:19.149 --> 00:06:25.230 sent to America by God. My kids have a word called 00:06:25.230 --> 00:06:28.649 rage bait. Okay. This feels like rage bait. Yeah. 00:06:29.050 --> 00:06:31.610 Are you going to take the bait? I don't know. 00:06:31.649 --> 00:06:34.829 We'll see. We'll see where we go. Okay. So let's 00:06:34.829 --> 00:06:43.529 break down the question. And my first thought 00:06:43.529 --> 00:06:47.750 is a preacher online. I realize we're doing this 00:06:47.750 --> 00:06:52.069 online. So I realize there's a lot of – we put 00:06:52.069 --> 00:06:54.529 our weekend services online. So preacher online. 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:59.439 There are some that are online and are preaching 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:02.660 that are not connected to a church. That for 00:07:02.660 --> 00:07:06.600 me is an instant flag, right? So the minute you 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:08.560 have somebody who's claiming an authority on 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:13.860 the word of God, who is teaching the family of 00:07:13.860 --> 00:07:18.240 God, so to speak, but has no covering from a 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.240 group of elders, has no connection, like that's 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:23.399 just dangerous. Like that person essentially 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:25.459 has set themselves up outside of any authority, 00:07:25.660 --> 00:07:28.779 any connection to the church. Right. And we live 00:07:28.779 --> 00:07:30.300 in a culture where you can do that. We live in 00:07:30.300 --> 00:07:32.899 a culture. Anybody can say anything at any time 00:07:32.899 --> 00:07:35.120 online and it can go to. Without accountability. 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:37.660 Millions and millions of people. Without accountability. 00:07:37.699 --> 00:07:41.379 So that's the first thing that I would just say, 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:45.600 you got to be careful when you engage with preachers 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:48.000 online. I would say you have to look back and 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.110 go. okay, where is the connection? Where is this 00:07:51.110 --> 00:07:54.089 coming from? Where does this person sit? And 00:07:54.089 --> 00:07:57.829 who are they accountable to? So that's the first 00:07:57.829 --> 00:08:00.149 thing. I think to add to that too, is most of 00:08:00.149 --> 00:08:02.370 the time when we say a preacher online, it's 00:08:02.370 --> 00:08:05.810 a clip on Instagram or TikTok. And that's not 00:08:05.810 --> 00:08:08.449 a full sermon. That's a clip. And so I think 00:08:08.449 --> 00:08:11.430 you only clip things you either want people, 00:08:11.670 --> 00:08:13.550 I mean, you talk about rage bait, there's also 00:08:13.550 --> 00:08:17.209 clickbait. You clip certain segments of a message 00:08:17.209 --> 00:08:20.209 to get people to to either stir controversy and 00:08:20.209 --> 00:08:23.350 ask questions like this or to click further for 00:08:23.350 --> 00:08:26.670 more views or whatever it is. So not every little 00:08:26.670 --> 00:08:29.250 clip is a representation of the whole either. 00:08:29.569 --> 00:08:32.669 Yeah, no, that's really good. Yeah, and I mean, 00:08:32.730 --> 00:08:35.230 there's a whole podcast on that, right? Like 00:08:35.230 --> 00:08:38.990 people that hear the clip and are now canceling 00:08:38.990 --> 00:08:41.129 people because of what they heard the person 00:08:41.129 --> 00:08:43.730 say and the clip was taken outside of context. 00:08:44.649 --> 00:08:48.519 I'm a little... I don't know how you feel on 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.539 this. Man, we're going off the question. We'll 00:08:50.539 --> 00:08:53.419 get back to it. I don't know how you feel. I 00:08:53.419 --> 00:08:56.840 really struggle with people who claim to be a 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:00.899 part of the church, but then create videos where 00:09:00.899 --> 00:09:03.159 they're tearing people apart phrase by phrase 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:05.179 for what they said. And they're giving their 00:09:05.179 --> 00:09:08.019 commentary to what the person said without any 00:09:08.019 --> 00:09:11.080 relationship, without any engagement with the 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:13.279 person. It's just literally their commentary. 00:09:14.269 --> 00:09:18.350 And people are looking for things that they align 00:09:18.350 --> 00:09:21.330 with in the commentary, right? And then the algorithm 00:09:21.330 --> 00:09:24.190 gives you more people doing the same thing. And 00:09:24.190 --> 00:09:26.009 so before you know it, you've got this whole 00:09:26.009 --> 00:09:29.690 subculture created of tearing people apart by 00:09:29.690 --> 00:09:33.929 clips. And I'm not saying that all of those are 00:09:33.929 --> 00:09:36.549 inaccurate, those opinions and those. It just 00:09:36.549 --> 00:09:40.990 feels very sideways energy for me when it comes 00:09:40.990 --> 00:09:43.250 to the church and comes to what we're called 00:09:43.250 --> 00:09:46.330 to do. that we spend our time watching people 00:09:46.330 --> 00:09:48.889 tear other people apart. Or this is probably 00:09:48.889 --> 00:09:51.669 even a greater one. A lot of them feel like gossip. 00:09:52.110 --> 00:09:54.309 A lot of them feel like I'm going to air this 00:09:54.309 --> 00:09:57.230 person's dirty laundry so that you know who they 00:09:57.230 --> 00:10:00.269 are because this just happened. And there's just 00:10:00.269 --> 00:10:02.549 some of that where I'm like, I don't think this 00:10:02.549 --> 00:10:05.129 is honoring to God. And I don't think this is 00:10:05.129 --> 00:10:07.789 something that I look at and I go, man, God must 00:10:07.789 --> 00:10:11.559 be really proud of his church. So anyways, that's 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.080 a whole side note. Side note. Back to the question. 00:10:14.220 --> 00:10:15.879 Back to the question. Somebody claiming to be 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:20.120 a prophet sent to America by God. Yeah. So we 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:26.240 experienced this immensely during the, what do 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:28.580 you call it, the presidential campaign, right? 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:32.759 Like we had people coming out and going, this 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:34.740 is going to happen. I am telling you this is 00:10:34.740 --> 00:10:36.759 going to happen. This is, God has told me, God 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:38.870 has showed me. and so you got a lot of people 00:10:38.870 --> 00:10:41.070 that were stepping out in that light going hey 00:10:41.070 --> 00:10:45.309 i'm predicting the future yeah right uh i don't 00:10:45.309 --> 00:10:49.269 i don't personally uh see that the gift of prophecy 00:10:49.269 --> 00:10:51.929 is about predicting the future i see you go to 00:10:51.929 --> 00:10:53.710 the old testament right the old testament very 00:10:53.710 --> 00:10:56.870 much so but the old testament was here's a group 00:10:56.870 --> 00:10:58.409 of people that have done the opposite from what 00:10:58.409 --> 00:11:01.669 god wanted And so God raises up a prophet to 00:11:01.669 --> 00:11:03.730 go and tell them, hey, here's the punishment 00:11:03.730 --> 00:11:05.950 coming for what you did. Here's what you can 00:11:05.950 --> 00:11:07.789 plan on. You're going to be hauled off into exile, 00:11:07.970 --> 00:11:12.309 right? So you've got that context. And a lot 00:11:12.309 --> 00:11:17.549 of times we try and drag that into the church. 00:11:18.190 --> 00:11:21.269 But the church gifting of prophecy is very different, 00:11:21.389 --> 00:11:25.750 right? And I would say before anybody can be 00:11:25.750 --> 00:11:28.600 recognized as a prophet, If they are saying something 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:32.240 about the future, they are not recognized as 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:35.279 a prophet until that comes true, right? And then 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.740 if they say something else, they're not recognized 00:11:37.740 --> 00:11:41.639 until it comes true, right? And so there's a 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:47.639 piece of it where there's the office, if you 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:50.320 like, of a prophet. I personally don't believe 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:52.740 the office exists anymore. We don't need it. 00:11:52.779 --> 00:11:54.899 Jesus has given the prophecy we need, right? 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.700 Like we've been given what we need. So for me, 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.679 the office, and what I mean by office is an official 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:05.379 role on a church staff, right? Like we don't 00:12:05.379 --> 00:12:10.759 have a prophet on staff. So when it comes to 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:12.659 then you read scripture and you've got the gift 00:12:12.659 --> 00:12:15.000 of prophecy, what are we talking about? Well, 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:18.840 I believe that the gift of prophecy is words 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.259 that are given for individuals by God to an individual, 00:12:22.460 --> 00:12:31.009 right? So now I have a word for you. But a prophet 00:12:31.009 --> 00:12:33.350 in a true sense would come and go, hey, God said 00:12:33.350 --> 00:12:37.230 this. I'm not there. I don't believe that's what 00:12:37.230 --> 00:12:40.210 the gift of prophecy is. I think the gift of 00:12:40.210 --> 00:12:42.429 prophecy is someone coming to you and going, 00:12:42.570 --> 00:12:45.929 hey, when I was spending time with God, you came 00:12:45.929 --> 00:12:48.789 to mind and here's what God brought up. I'm just 00:12:48.789 --> 00:12:51.429 giving it to you. I don't know. I'm not saying 00:12:51.429 --> 00:12:54.470 this is going to happen. I'm not. And so I think. 00:12:54.860 --> 00:12:56.340 When we talk about prophecy, there's so many 00:12:56.340 --> 00:12:58.580 layers of what it could be. So for this person, 00:12:58.700 --> 00:13:01.639 if they're using language that suggests that 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:05.440 they are a prophet of the church, well, that 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.740 role doesn't exist anymore. That role is not 00:13:08.740 --> 00:13:11.559 a part of what you see when you see the church 00:13:11.559 --> 00:13:14.059 structure laid out. There isn't a prophet role 00:13:14.059 --> 00:13:20.659 within the church. Now, how that plays out. The 00:13:20.659 --> 00:13:23.600 gift of prophecy is more personal and individual. 00:13:23.940 --> 00:13:27.159 Right. And I would say, not knowing the context 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:30.820 of this specific preacher or whoever it was that 00:13:30.820 --> 00:13:34.919 gave this message, I think a lot of times pastors 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:40.320 maybe use it as a tactic to drive home their 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:44.279 point. And so whoever was saying this, maybe 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:46.379 of just saying, I'm telling you the truth that's 00:13:46.379 --> 00:13:49.220 in scripture, and you're going to be held accountable 00:13:49.220 --> 00:13:52.220 for it. That doesn't make them a prophet. They're 00:13:52.220 --> 00:13:54.360 just giving the truth of Scripture and teaching 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:56.500 it and saying, hey, this is what the Bible says. 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:00.120 And I think those are very different, and maybe 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.080 that was just used like, hey, don't say you weren't 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:05.860 warned. This is what the Bible says. I'm a prophet 00:14:05.860 --> 00:14:08.240 sent to tell you. No, you're just telling what 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:10.799 the Bible says. Yeah, and I think there's other 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.200 words for it too, right? There's discernment. 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:17.919 Hey, I think I'm discerning this about the church. 00:14:18.830 --> 00:14:20.809 That doesn't make me a prophet. That just means 00:14:20.809 --> 00:14:23.769 that as I've sat and looked at what's happening 00:14:23.769 --> 00:14:28.090 and the Holy Spirit's talking to me, what I'm 00:14:28.090 --> 00:14:32.950 discerning of this. So an example would be, because 00:14:32.950 --> 00:14:36.049 a lot of times prophecy is connected to end of 00:14:36.049 --> 00:14:41.929 the world stuff, right? So what I've seen over 00:14:41.929 --> 00:14:44.049 the years is you've got people that are predicting, 00:14:44.269 --> 00:14:47.990 here's a date, here's a time, here's a, and. 00:14:48.620 --> 00:14:50.679 very clearly in scripture, we're told no one 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:52.559 knows the time, but God, the father, right? So 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.259 already I'm out, right? Like if you've got a 00:14:55.259 --> 00:14:57.820 human going, Hey, I know it. And I'm the only 00:14:57.820 --> 00:15:00.059 one that knows it. And I'm already out because 00:15:00.059 --> 00:15:03.299 Jesus even said like, I don't even very clearly, 00:15:03.299 --> 00:15:06.879 I don't know. The father knows. Right. And so, 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:11.700 so then you've got people who are reading scripture 00:15:11.700 --> 00:15:16.519 and discerning the times according to what they're 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:20.990 seeing. That's just a commentary, right? And 00:15:20.990 --> 00:15:23.629 yet we put it because it has to do with future. 00:15:23.710 --> 00:15:28.370 So an example would be rumors of wars. My phone 00:15:28.370 --> 00:15:31.529 is full of rumors of wars today, right? Like 00:15:31.529 --> 00:15:35.750 what could happen? What is happening within the 00:15:35.750 --> 00:15:37.889 Middle East? Who's firing at who? Who's doing? 00:15:38.009 --> 00:15:41.370 I mean, that's all present today on my phone. 00:15:42.210 --> 00:15:44.929 And then within that, you've got Pakistan attacking 00:15:44.929 --> 00:15:48.000 Afghanistan. I mean, you've got Venezuela stuff 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.159 still happening. You've got, I mean, it's just 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:52.080 on and on and on. There's all these rumors, right? 00:15:52.179 --> 00:15:54.340 So when I read rumors of wars in scripture, I 00:15:54.340 --> 00:15:58.019 could easily discern and go, hey, I think we 00:15:58.019 --> 00:16:01.059 might be in end times. That's a lot different 00:16:01.059 --> 00:16:04.039 than me sitting on this pod going, hey, I'm here 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:06.480 to tell you we're in end times. Yeah. Right? 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:10.620 Are we in end times? Sure. We've been in end 00:16:10.620 --> 00:16:13.929 times since Jesus left, right? But to go, no, 00:16:14.029 --> 00:16:17.610 no, no, it's happening. We're in the current 00:16:17.610 --> 00:16:21.669 timeframe, so to speak. To me, you're just discerning 00:16:21.669 --> 00:16:24.149 what's there and you're giving your best commentary. 00:16:24.529 --> 00:16:27.409 And that is much different than a prophet that 00:16:27.409 --> 00:16:29.350 you see in scripture where the prophet showed 00:16:29.350 --> 00:16:32.889 up being given a word by God for people. They 00:16:32.889 --> 00:16:35.809 are standing, and that's the key to the word 00:16:35.809 --> 00:16:38.429 of prophet, right? They are standing in the place 00:16:38.429 --> 00:16:41.480 of God as a spokesperson for God. Telling you 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:46.360 a direct message from God. Well, you just don't 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:47.860 see it in the church. The people in scripture 00:16:47.860 --> 00:16:51.340 that we read about that had prophets come in, 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:53.200 specifically in the Old Testament, they did not 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:55.779 have the word of God. They did not have scripture. 00:16:55.980 --> 00:16:58.440 That was how God spoke to them. God speaks to 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:02.360 us through other mediums, other ways now, mainly 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:06.140 through his word. The main full picture of revelation 00:17:06.140 --> 00:17:09.210 that we have, how God reveals himself. Revelation, 00:17:09.210 --> 00:17:11.549 meaning how God reveals himself, is through his 00:17:11.549 --> 00:17:15.589 word. We have his word. So can God use somebody 00:17:15.589 --> 00:17:17.930 for a word of encouragement or a word of guidance, 00:17:18.049 --> 00:17:19.849 a word of something for somebody? Absolutely. 00:17:20.309 --> 00:17:24.130 But the main area that we have is God's word 00:17:24.130 --> 00:17:27.269 for him to speak to us, which they did not have 00:17:27.269 --> 00:17:29.630 because the Bible was not written. It was in 00:17:29.630 --> 00:17:32.109 process at that point. And so they don't have 00:17:32.109 --> 00:17:33.789 it. And it's always going to be, you go to Corinthians, 00:17:33.990 --> 00:17:35.589 right? It's always going to be about building 00:17:35.589 --> 00:17:41.119 up. So if I, and I've seen this happen. I didn't 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:44.039 know this was happening in your life. God reveals 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:47.200 it to me and I come to you and go, hey, I don't 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.220 know if this is relevant, but God showed me this 00:17:50.220 --> 00:17:52.059 about you. And all of a sudden you go, I haven't 00:17:52.059 --> 00:17:54.559 told anybody. How did you know that? Well, God 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:57.720 revealed it, right? But the reason in giving 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.640 it to you is to build you up, right? Like is 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.799 to comfort, is to, in Corinthians, I'd have to 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:06.160 look it up to get the exact words, but you. In 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:08.240 Corinthians, I think it's chapter 12, it speaks 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:11.380 specifically to this is the purpose of prophecy. 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:14.740 Well, the stuff that, and I don't know this online 00:18:14.740 --> 00:18:19.440 preacher, so I'm being judgmental on that. But 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:21.980 rarely do online preachers claiming to be prophets 00:18:21.980 --> 00:18:24.160 have anything to do with building up the church, 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:28.400 building up the individual. It has to do with 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:34.950 a specific claim and a specific outcome. Well, 00:18:34.970 --> 00:18:36.809 hopefully that answers that question for you. 00:18:37.190 --> 00:18:39.710 Anthony, thank you for submitting that question. 00:18:39.769 --> 00:18:42.150 I appreciate it. Anytime anyone submits a question, 00:18:42.289 --> 00:18:45.170 I appreciate you having the vulnerability to 00:18:45.170 --> 00:18:47.690 do so. One last thing on that, sorry, because 00:18:47.690 --> 00:18:50.490 I just caught the end of the question. How to 00:18:50.490 --> 00:18:53.710 understand and evaluate statements, you have 00:18:53.710 --> 00:18:55.809 to go back to Scripture and you have to interpret 00:18:55.809 --> 00:18:59.559 in community. So if somebody says something that 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:01.839 you go, hey, I'm wondering if this is legitimate 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:04.700 prophecy or even if it's a personal, somebody 00:19:04.700 --> 00:19:06.240 comes to you and goes, hey, I got a word for 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:09.779 you and it doesn't resonate. I heard some great 00:19:09.779 --> 00:19:12.579 advice. Just put it on the shelf. Yeah. And go, 00:19:12.619 --> 00:19:15.599 God, I don't know how that fits today, but I'm 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:18.660 going to store it away and I'm not going to live 00:19:18.660 --> 00:19:20.660 in a way that makes it come true, but I'm going 00:19:20.660 --> 00:19:22.900 to store it away. And then as I go through my 00:19:22.900 --> 00:19:24.960 life, if that becomes relevant, would you bring 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.269 it back? Right. And I think that's a beautiful 00:19:27.269 --> 00:19:30.529 way to, on the personal side, go, because otherwise 00:19:30.529 --> 00:19:32.890 we can spin, right? Like, you're from God. What 00:19:32.890 --> 00:19:36.329 did God say? Right? And on the other side, I 00:19:36.329 --> 00:19:39.130 would say, if it is prophecy about end times 00:19:39.130 --> 00:19:43.549 or things to come, man, in community, in the 00:19:43.549 --> 00:19:46.829 Word of God. Yep, absolutely. Well, let's hop 00:19:46.829 --> 00:19:49.569 into the weekend and a little recap of the weekend 00:19:49.569 --> 00:19:54.009 now. So as we mentioned up top, you were wearing 00:19:54.009 --> 00:19:58.269 a large pack on your back, the entirety of the 00:19:58.269 --> 00:20:00.470 message. So if you did not get a chance to watch 00:20:00.470 --> 00:20:03.029 that or listen to that yet, I highly suggest 00:20:03.029 --> 00:20:05.730 you go back and do that. But with this idea of 00:20:05.730 --> 00:20:08.630 just camping and having what you need when you 00:20:08.630 --> 00:20:12.329 camp as packed on your back for the journey. 00:20:13.950 --> 00:20:16.430 When it comes to that idea, and we'll unpack 00:20:16.430 --> 00:20:18.769 that a little bit more, just more of a personal 00:20:18.769 --> 00:20:20.410 question on that. Have you ever felt like you 00:20:20.410 --> 00:20:22.210 didn't pack the right thing for the journey of 00:20:22.210 --> 00:20:25.789 life? You weren't prepared, but God showed up 00:20:25.789 --> 00:20:27.670 and packed it for you, and you ended up with 00:20:27.670 --> 00:20:30.190 what you needed, even though you were not necessarily 00:20:30.190 --> 00:20:35.150 prepared or ready in those situations? Yeah, 00:20:35.190 --> 00:20:40.069 I think initially my mind first goes to, like 00:20:40.069 --> 00:20:41.970 if I break it down from how we did this weekend, 00:20:42.049 --> 00:20:45.329 right? That the gear, so to speak, that we have 00:20:45.329 --> 00:20:49.269 in our packs is one of those would be relationships. 00:20:49.990 --> 00:20:52.809 And I look at relationships over my life and 00:20:52.809 --> 00:20:56.289 the amount of times I had the relationship I 00:20:56.289 --> 00:21:00.670 needed, but God did. And God provided that. And 00:21:00.670 --> 00:21:05.089 so the concept of relationship is in the pack 00:21:05.089 --> 00:21:09.859 of life. But the specifics of who that is and 00:21:09.859 --> 00:21:11.819 what that is, I think of Cindy, right? Like Cindy 00:21:11.819 --> 00:21:17.500 is such a godsend to my life that I didn't know 00:21:17.500 --> 00:21:20.700 what I needed. If John was to pick what should 00:21:20.700 --> 00:21:24.000 be in my pack when it comes to my spouse, and 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:26.720 I'm thinking now 20 -year -old John, I would 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:31.299 have screwed up so bad. And yeah, to see God 00:21:31.299 --> 00:21:36.180 provide the relationship in Cindy. And what that's 00:21:36.180 --> 00:21:38.619 done for my spiritual growth and my growth as 00:21:38.619 --> 00:21:41.779 a human and who I've become as a dad and all 00:21:41.779 --> 00:21:45.880 of that. I mean, to me, that's probably the largest 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.359 example of I didn't know I needed that in my 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:54.160 pack. And then I would say, too, not knowing 00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:57.859 that the seasons I would need accountability 00:21:57.859 --> 00:22:00.759 or the seasons I would need someone to come along 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:05.430 to challenge my thinking. Because I was in, like 00:22:05.430 --> 00:22:07.430 I look back and I go, man, I was in some dangerous 00:22:07.430 --> 00:22:11.269 theological ground and God provided people along 00:22:11.269 --> 00:22:14.609 the way to just kind of help steer the right 00:22:14.609 --> 00:22:17.630 way, right? And back to the relationships, I 00:22:17.630 --> 00:22:20.309 think it's been key. What about you? Yeah, I 00:22:20.309 --> 00:22:23.910 would agree. I would say the times that I felt 00:22:23.910 --> 00:22:27.829 that is usually going through something and being 00:22:27.829 --> 00:22:30.549 frustrated at God for going through what it was 00:22:30.549 --> 00:22:34.460 and then getting to the next place. and needing 00:22:34.460 --> 00:22:36.180 exactly what I learned when I went through what 00:22:36.180 --> 00:22:38.220 I went through. You know what I mean? You go 00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:39.819 through it and you're like, God, what is this? 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:42.859 Why am I doing this? Then you find yourself in 00:22:42.859 --> 00:22:44.220 a situation and you're like, oh, that was God 00:22:44.220 --> 00:22:46.460 just packing the pack for me when I didn't know 00:22:46.460 --> 00:22:49.799 what I would need and preparing me for what was 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.900 coming next. And I think I see that often even 00:22:53.900 --> 00:22:58.160 in parenting for me when it comes to raising 00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:00.220 my kids. It's like, man, I don't know how to 00:23:00.220 --> 00:23:02.799 give advice to this. Oh, no, I do because... 00:23:03.150 --> 00:23:05.789 I was a youth pastor eight years ago, and I walked 00:23:05.789 --> 00:23:10.710 through the same situation. So I think there's 00:23:10.710 --> 00:23:13.930 been a lot of situations that were unpleasant 00:23:13.930 --> 00:23:16.170 when I walked through them, but it was really 00:23:16.170 --> 00:23:19.430 just God preparing me and giving me what I needed 00:23:19.430 --> 00:23:21.089 for the next time I was going through something. 00:23:21.630 --> 00:23:24.789 Yeah. And I think if you put it in that context, 00:23:24.930 --> 00:23:27.670 right? This isn't maybe relevant to the question 00:23:27.670 --> 00:23:31.869 in its form, but you speak to anybody who's gone 00:23:31.869 --> 00:23:34.519 camping. they learn so much the first time they 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:38.180 go. And that experience plays into the next time 00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:40.759 they go and the next time they go. And there's 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:43.220 probably, if we sat with somebody on the pod 00:23:43.220 --> 00:23:46.619 and said, who is an expert in camping, they'd 00:23:46.619 --> 00:23:48.900 probably tell you about when they learned this 00:23:48.900 --> 00:23:52.660 and it saved their life over here. And I think 00:23:52.660 --> 00:23:55.519 it's the same within, I think our packs, when 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:59.660 we first meet Jesus, our packs are so full of 00:23:59.660 --> 00:24:04.140 stuff we don't need. That gets weeded out and 00:24:04.140 --> 00:24:06.680 what gets left behind or what gets added to the 00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:09.680 pack is the things we actually need. Yeah. So 00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:14.119 let me ask you this. When it comes to the analogy 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:18.460 of the pack and camping, you have to know where 00:24:18.460 --> 00:24:22.140 you're going to know how to pack for it, right? 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:24.980 Yeah. Whether it's knowing the type of terrain 00:24:24.980 --> 00:24:26.920 that you're going to be on or even just checking 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:29.640 the weather to know what you need in that pack. 00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:33.980 How does someone clarify their purpose in various 00:24:33.980 --> 00:24:36.579 seasons, right? To know where they're headed. 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:40.779 And we have an overarching purpose, which you 00:24:40.779 --> 00:24:43.259 stated many times on the weekend, like, hey, 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:45.660 this is your purpose. And whatever you find yourself 00:24:45.660 --> 00:24:49.160 doing, that's what you do in it. But I'm talking 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:51.440 more specific, like, how do you clarify your 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:55.140 purpose in various seasons of like being a father 00:24:55.140 --> 00:24:59.039 or being a husband or being? a pastor or being 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:01.440 whatever it is or like we go through different 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:03.259 seasons in our life how do we know our purpose 00:25:03.259 --> 00:25:06.500 so we know how to pack for it yeah i think i 00:25:06.500 --> 00:25:10.279 think you you have to pay attention to um where 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:13.720 you are in life uh to understand the season you're 00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:16.980 in right so so an example i was chatting with 00:25:16.980 --> 00:25:20.240 one of the um safety guys we were walking around 00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:23.099 and he was telling me about a trip he was asking 00:25:23.099 --> 00:25:25.000 how heavy the pack was and you know that kind 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:28.779 of stuff and He started telling me about a climb 00:25:28.779 --> 00:25:31.519 he did where, you know, I mean, they've got the 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:34.759 ice picks and the, you know, and he even told 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:36.619 me, I can't remember what it's called, but it's 00:25:36.619 --> 00:25:41.039 when the wind comes off the top of the mountain. 00:25:41.940 --> 00:25:44.559 And they thought it was an avalanche, but it's 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:46.660 just a hundred mile an hour wind that comes off. 00:25:47.259 --> 00:25:50.700 And he was talking about like. You know, you 00:25:50.700 --> 00:25:54.579 anchor down and literally the strap is holding 00:25:54.579 --> 00:25:57.400 you because you're getting blown so hard. But, 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:00.519 you know, that's a much different pack that you're 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.599 going to carry on a trip like that back to the 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:05.940 terrain you're talking about, right? Like if 00:26:05.940 --> 00:26:07.839 you didn't have the, but you're not going to 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:09.680 take an ice pick when you go out into the desert 00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:13.019 of Arizona. It's just not the same, right? And 00:26:13.019 --> 00:26:17.240 so I think like comparing those, if you're in 00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:22.559 a season of grief. that per like how you live 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:24.960 that season of grief is going to look very different 00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:28.680 from a what's in your pack perspective, right? 00:26:28.740 --> 00:26:32.500 Like, like you may add to your pack in that moment 00:26:32.500 --> 00:26:35.019 because of the season, a counselor that you've 00:26:35.019 --> 00:26:36.599 never, you've never been to counseling. You've 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:39.000 never, but because of the loss you've experienced 00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.339 and you're, you're reading the season you're 00:26:42.339 --> 00:26:45.720 in, the purpose has changed. The purpose of the 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:50.259 season of grief is to get through it with your 00:26:50.259 --> 00:26:53.359 faith, right? Like don't let this become something 00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:55.500 that drags you away from your faith or that you 00:26:55.500 --> 00:26:58.740 get stuck in or that, you know, as you go through 00:26:58.740 --> 00:27:01.180 the stages of grief, you end up just on the bitter 00:27:01.180 --> 00:27:04.279 train because your anger never, you never got 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:07.220 past the anger stage, right? So I think within 00:27:07.220 --> 00:27:11.460 that, your purpose, and it sounds really simple 00:27:11.460 --> 00:27:14.910 to go, like just make it through. And yet that 00:27:14.910 --> 00:27:16.650 might be the reality of your purpose. So God, 00:27:16.670 --> 00:27:18.670 how do I delight you as I'm making it through 00:27:18.670 --> 00:27:20.809 the season of grief? Maybe it's a wilderness 00:27:20.809 --> 00:27:23.470 season where you just feel like you don't hear 00:27:23.470 --> 00:27:26.789 God. And you just, okay, my purpose is to keep 00:27:26.789 --> 00:27:29.710 showing up. My purpose is to keep fighting through 00:27:29.710 --> 00:27:34.170 it. And you just don't, again, back to the question 00:27:34.170 --> 00:27:37.990 before, I think God's so faithful to put in our 00:27:37.990 --> 00:27:40.529 pack what we need. So when you hit the season 00:27:40.529 --> 00:27:42.390 of grief, like for us, I'll just speak first 00:27:42.390 --> 00:27:48.400 person. But watching Cindy go through grief of 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.319 losing her dad, God had done nine months of preparation 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:58.500 just on a personal level for her. And so back 00:27:58.500 --> 00:28:00.559 to the pack analogy, God had been putting in 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.940 her pack what she needed for this moment. I would 00:28:03.940 --> 00:28:09.450 say the same. Cindy's dad did so many things. 00:28:09.490 --> 00:28:11.690 We're looking at the last few months of his life. 00:28:11.769 --> 00:28:14.369 So many things. One of them we just celebrated 00:28:14.369 --> 00:28:19.450 was he canceled his second phone. It would have 00:28:19.450 --> 00:28:22.150 been such a hassle to do. Literally, I think 00:28:22.150 --> 00:28:24.109 I don't remember how many days before he passed 00:28:24.109 --> 00:28:26.670 away, he canceled his phone. And we're like, 00:28:26.789 --> 00:28:29.450 it's just a gift. It's something we don't have 00:28:29.450 --> 00:28:31.809 to do. And God put it in the pack. It's one less 00:28:31.809 --> 00:28:36.099 thing. recognizing back to the the purpose of 00:28:36.099 --> 00:28:38.460 the season is recognizing the season you're in 00:28:38.460 --> 00:28:42.420 and then okay god how do i back to the 30 000 00:28:42.420 --> 00:28:46.200 foot how do i delight you in this in this specific 00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.079 thing because it's going to change right yeah 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.940 and i think that that's where like this has to 00:28:50.940 --> 00:28:53.960 go back to is the overarching purpose yeah right 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:55.559 you always have to go back to that because that 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.119 has to guide the specific purpose yeah right 00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:02.700 how you interact with your kids, changes as your 00:29:02.700 --> 00:29:04.980 kids get older, but the overarching purpose of 00:29:04.980 --> 00:29:06.980 what the motivation for interacting with your 00:29:06.980 --> 00:29:09.720 kids stays the same. And I think that sometimes 00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.920 in our specific seasons, we can miss the main 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:16.920 purpose. How do I use where I'm at right now, 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:18.700 whether it's a season of grief, whether it's 00:29:18.700 --> 00:29:21.140 a season of wealth, whether it's a season of 00:29:21.140 --> 00:29:26.720 whatever it is, how do I use this to Love God, 00:29:26.740 --> 00:29:29.599 love others. How do I use this to stay on mission? 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.920 How do I use this to glorify God in whatever 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:38.859 it is? Because the seasons do change. And so 00:29:38.859 --> 00:29:41.740 I think if we get so focused on the season that 00:29:41.740 --> 00:29:46.299 we miss the overarching purpose, we can find 00:29:46.299 --> 00:29:48.180 ourselves in a bad place. Yeah, and I think, 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.599 I don't know about you, that's encouraging to 00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:53.420 me, right? That no matter what I face, the purpose 00:29:53.420 --> 00:29:56.799 isn't going to change. Yeah. So I can take that 00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.539 purpose and now it may look different in the 00:29:59.539 --> 00:30:02.220 details of the season. It may look different 00:30:02.220 --> 00:30:05.099 how I live out that purpose, but the purpose 00:30:05.099 --> 00:30:08.059 hasn't shifted all of a sudden. And now I'm not 00:30:08.059 --> 00:30:09.980 only in a season that I don't understand, but 00:30:09.980 --> 00:30:11.759 now I'm trying to figure out what is my purpose, 00:30:11.900 --> 00:30:14.059 right? Like now the purpose stays locked for 00:30:14.059 --> 00:30:17.559 us no matter what the season, the terrain changes, 00:30:17.619 --> 00:30:20.000 if you like, the type of camping you're doing 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.119 changes. Maybe it's harder. Maybe it's camping 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:24.930 you don't like. Well, that purpose, God, how 00:30:24.930 --> 00:30:27.390 do I delight you in something I don't like? I 00:30:27.390 --> 00:30:31.349 had this whole thing and I just never really 00:30:31.349 --> 00:30:34.670 got it to fit well because of time and just content. 00:30:35.250 --> 00:30:38.549 But any one of those things we talked about that's 00:30:38.549 --> 00:30:42.950 in our pack, when they become the purpose, right, 00:30:43.009 --> 00:30:46.009 it becomes toxic to our life. So the minute my 00:30:46.009 --> 00:30:48.150 relationship, and I kind of said it a little 00:30:48.150 --> 00:30:52.380 bit, but you think about any of those. the season 00:30:52.380 --> 00:30:55.240 itself can become toxic because I can lose my 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.619 purpose. And so I just have to keep going back 00:30:57.619 --> 00:31:02.400 and going, okay, God, this has changed. You haven't 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.900 changed. Why you've saved me hasn't changed. 00:31:04.980 --> 00:31:07.799 And how do I live that out? So let's get real 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.160 practical for a moment. Love a good practical 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.859 question. The overarching idea of this message 00:31:14.859 --> 00:31:17.400 is we carry around things that we should never 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.240 be carrying. And we put too much value in things 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:24.670 that... really don't matter. And so hopefully 00:31:24.670 --> 00:31:26.190 this message hit people where they're going, 00:31:26.309 --> 00:31:28.069 hey, I need to kind of take some stuff out of 00:31:28.069 --> 00:31:30.730 my pack and isn't things that I'm caring about 00:31:30.730 --> 00:31:33.910 so much in this life that don't matter. What 00:31:33.910 --> 00:31:37.190 are some questions that you can reflect on with 00:31:37.190 --> 00:31:39.710 God to determine what things need to be taken 00:31:39.710 --> 00:31:42.150 out of a pack, right? So if somebody this weekend 00:31:42.150 --> 00:31:44.970 is listening to the message going, man, I put 00:31:44.970 --> 00:31:48.230 way too much stake in my finances. Man, I care 00:31:48.230 --> 00:31:51.480 way too much about... whatever it is, what are 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.980 some practical things that they can process with 00:31:54.980 --> 00:31:57.140 God to help them determine what they need to 00:31:57.140 --> 00:32:05.799 take out? I would say first and foremost, does 00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:09.380 this help me accomplish the purpose that God's 00:32:09.380 --> 00:32:14.960 given me in this season? So specifically, let's 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.380 use relationships because it's a practical one. 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:21.779 if the struggle and we'll go to go to raising, 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.000 we'll go to, uh, what was her name? Candace raising 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.400 three kids. It's busy, right? Like, like time 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:30.980 is such a, such a tight commodity, uh, for Candace. 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.660 And she has a relationship in this season. That's 00:32:35.660 --> 00:32:40.220 just taking way too much time, way too much energy. 00:32:40.380 --> 00:32:44.799 It's a drain on her. Um, then I think a very 00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.519 practical question is Is this the season that 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:51.680 I can carry this relationship? Because when you 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.460 go back to purpose, you go back to what? If I'm 00:32:54.460 --> 00:32:58.619 missing my kids because I'm saving this person 00:32:58.619 --> 00:33:02.319 over here, right? Like you've got to ask God, 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:04.859 man, something's not. I got something in the 00:33:04.859 --> 00:33:07.519 pack that's not building into the purpose you 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.660 have me for this season, right? And so I think 00:33:09.660 --> 00:33:13.539 just asking, does this? In this season, does 00:33:13.539 --> 00:33:15.960 this help me accomplish the purpose that God's 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:19.200 given me in this stage, in the current context? 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.599 And it's kind of like bringing an ice pick to 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:25.880 the desert, right? And so I think that's one 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.339 question to just kind of sit on is looking at 00:33:29.339 --> 00:33:32.619 your life, looking at finances and going, okay, 00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:37.420 if all of my energy, attention, all of my happiness, 00:33:37.619 --> 00:33:41.160 all of my dopamine hits are coming from... When 00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:45.500 I'm making money and when I feel valuable, then 00:33:45.500 --> 00:33:48.940 I'm probably missing what God has. So asking 00:33:48.940 --> 00:33:52.019 a question is, has this become something that 00:33:52.019 --> 00:33:56.680 it shouldn't be? Is the stake of this too high 00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:00.579 of claim in my life? Yeah. If it is that God's 00:34:00.579 --> 00:34:05.460 got you in a spot, you're wealthy, you're flourishing, 00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:10.480 but it's all being turned inward. Well, then 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:11.739 you've got a question of going, God, why did 00:34:11.739 --> 00:34:14.460 you provide it? So I think asking really practical 00:34:14.460 --> 00:34:17.739 questions based on the context that you find 00:34:17.739 --> 00:34:19.840 yourself in. Yeah, and I think that becomes harder 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:23.219 and harder when it gets to questions about things 00:34:23.219 --> 00:34:25.699 we don't want to question. Oh, yeah. So the first 00:34:25.699 --> 00:34:28.659 thing that comes to my mind is hobbies. How many 00:34:28.659 --> 00:34:33.400 people have a hobby that is not a bad thing, 00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:37.099 but is taking the place of something that... 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.380 could be a good thing or has become an escape 00:34:40.380 --> 00:34:43.400 from doing the right thing. Or, you know, I mean, 00:34:43.460 --> 00:34:45.159 you could just play it out. Maybe there's nothing 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:46.920 wrong with it, but the amount of time that you 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.659 spend in it, you're not using the resources you've 00:34:49.659 --> 00:34:50.980 been given. We're just camping. You don't have 00:34:50.980 --> 00:34:53.760 time to spend like you've been spending it, which 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.380 this is where it becomes personal. And people 00:34:56.380 --> 00:34:58.800 are like, well, I don't want that thing to go 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.219 away. But you have to ask that question between 00:35:01.219 --> 00:35:03.300 you and God. Hey, if I'm just camping and I've 00:35:03.300 --> 00:35:05.940 only been given a certain amount of space in 00:35:05.940 --> 00:35:10.840 this pack, Does this fit? And that becomes a 00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:12.880 difficult question. And you know how you get 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:18.420 real serious with that? Ask somebody. Hey, if 00:35:18.420 --> 00:35:20.840 you were to look at my life and you were to look 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:26.019 at my time, what do you think of it? And don't 00:35:26.019 --> 00:35:28.079 get mad at them. Yeah, don't get mad, right? 00:35:28.420 --> 00:35:31.039 Or you look at somebody and you go, hey, you 00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:35.909 see how I spend my money. How do you? how do 00:35:35.909 --> 00:35:38.730 you think in light of the current conversation 00:35:38.730 --> 00:35:44.250 of eternity, camping trip short, uh, how do you 00:35:44.250 --> 00:35:47.130 think I'm spending my money? That's, I mean, 00:35:47.150 --> 00:35:49.090 you want to talk about being vulnerable and opening 00:35:49.090 --> 00:35:51.989 yourself up, right? Right. Or how do you think 00:35:51.989 --> 00:35:54.869 I'm doing? Is it that you're around, you're in 00:35:54.869 --> 00:35:58.989 proximity close enough to me. Um, or, you know, 00:35:58.989 --> 00:36:01.409 if you go camping, it's such a practical picture. 00:36:01.489 --> 00:36:03.550 This is why I love it. Right. If I go, if I go 00:36:03.550 --> 00:36:05.840 out with the beard, and we both got our packs, 00:36:06.019 --> 00:36:11.260 and I'm hauling way too much water, right? Like 00:36:11.260 --> 00:36:13.659 he knows I don't need that much water. I would 00:36:13.659 --> 00:36:16.920 hope he would look at me and go, you don't need 00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:18.719 all that water. It's going to wear you out. You're 00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:21.619 not going to make it to the end goal. My advice 00:36:21.619 --> 00:36:23.840 is having done this before, hey, why don't you 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.420 shed some water? You'll be okay, right? And I 00:36:26.420 --> 00:36:30.260 think if you want to get really practical, find 00:36:30.260 --> 00:36:34.210 someone you can do that with. hey, you hear how 00:36:34.210 --> 00:36:38.070 I joke, right? Like you hear how I carry myself. 00:36:38.210 --> 00:36:40.989 You hear the words that I speak. Am I honoring 00:36:40.989 --> 00:36:43.550 to God? Because you see me in all situations, 00:36:43.829 --> 00:36:46.190 right? Like is this the way I treat my wife? 00:36:46.309 --> 00:36:49.230 Is that honoring? Is God delighting in that? 00:36:49.309 --> 00:36:51.389 What do you see that I'm missing? Because we 00:36:51.389 --> 00:36:53.730 all got blind spots. We all need somebody to 00:36:53.730 --> 00:36:57.050 tell us. And it's easy. There's some stuff that's 00:36:57.050 --> 00:36:58.969 easy, right? Like my wife is really good at telling 00:36:58.969 --> 00:37:02.300 me some areas. Um, because she knows me really 00:37:02.300 --> 00:37:06.119 well. And, uh, an example would be this last 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:09.780 week out of nowhere, Tuesday night. Uh, I see 00:37:09.780 --> 00:37:15.280 that one of the, um, uh, preachers, communicators, 00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:17.579 whatever that has been really influential in 00:37:17.579 --> 00:37:21.239 my life was in LA doing church. And this was 00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:23.159 Tuesday night and he was there Wednesday. And 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.300 I go, uh, babe, I think I'm supposed to go to 00:37:25.300 --> 00:37:29.500 LA this week. And out of note, she's like, yeah, 00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:33.239 do it. And I got back and she made a comment 00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:34.639 last night that I thought was funny. I was telling 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:36.500 her about how stressed I've been over some of 00:37:36.500 --> 00:37:38.739 the stuff, like decisions we're making as a church, 00:37:38.780 --> 00:37:40.519 that kind of stuff. And she goes, that's why 00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:42.599 you need to go to LA. She goes, I knew you needed 00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.900 to go. I didn't see that. I'm like real time 00:37:45.900 --> 00:37:47.840 discerning the Lord, like, oh man, I think I'm 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.179 supposed to go. I mean, she instantly knew this 00:37:51.179 --> 00:37:53.940 was going to be good for me. All right. And so 00:37:53.940 --> 00:37:55.960 I just think we need those people that can go, 00:37:56.019 --> 00:37:59.170 hey, this is not good for you. But we have to 00:37:59.170 --> 00:38:01.929 be willing, back to the practical side, we have 00:38:01.929 --> 00:38:06.150 to lead that. We have to step in and go, I need 00:38:06.150 --> 00:38:09.050 you to be this for me. I need you to be honest 00:38:09.050 --> 00:38:11.849 with me. Yeah. A lot of good questions for us 00:38:11.849 --> 00:38:14.050 to ask ourselves out of this collection. This 00:38:14.050 --> 00:38:16.070 collection has been awesome so far, and we will 00:38:16.070 --> 00:38:18.110 continue it. It's only going to get better. It's 00:38:18.110 --> 00:38:19.869 only going to keep going. It's going to keep 00:38:19.869 --> 00:38:21.650 going all the way through Easter. All the way 00:38:21.650 --> 00:38:24.150 through Easter. So we got one more question, 00:38:24.250 --> 00:38:29.570 not weekend recap. for us that came in. Anonymous 00:38:29.570 --> 00:38:33.210 asks this. They say, I grew up in a Catholic 00:38:33.210 --> 00:38:36.690 house, but we weren't faithfully practicing. 00:38:36.829 --> 00:38:39.650 So I understand the concept of Lent from a Catholic 00:38:39.650 --> 00:38:42.829 perspective. I'm a Heights girl now and have 00:38:42.829 --> 00:38:45.369 been for two years and I'm still learning. Can 00:38:45.369 --> 00:38:48.050 you help me understand the Christian perspective 00:38:48.050 --> 00:38:51.849 on the season of Lent as I notice it's not something 00:38:51.849 --> 00:38:55.460 we formally observe at Heights? Yeah, Lent's 00:38:55.460 --> 00:38:57.659 an interesting one because I actually got a question 00:38:57.659 --> 00:39:03.159 coming up to Lent season, so probably a month 00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:06.900 ago, if we're going to do a Lent service. And 00:39:06.900 --> 00:39:09.940 if I'm honest, my response was, I have never 00:39:09.940 --> 00:39:13.599 been to a Lent service. What do you do? And so 00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.619 this person kind of laid out for me, the beauty 00:39:16.619 --> 00:39:19.429 of it is you can do what you want to do. There's 00:39:19.429 --> 00:39:22.349 not a set like this is a Lent service and it 00:39:22.349 --> 00:39:25.530 has to be. Now, the Catholics have very traditional, 00:39:25.650 --> 00:39:27.530 this is what a Lent service is. Right, that's 00:39:27.530 --> 00:39:30.329 what they do. But for Heights, the freedom was 00:39:30.329 --> 00:39:32.909 there to go, hey, it could kind of become whatever 00:39:32.909 --> 00:39:36.110 you want, but it's a kickoff to this season of 00:39:36.110 --> 00:39:38.849 Lent, right? So season, my understanding of Lent, 00:39:38.849 --> 00:39:42.949 again, I don't practice it. I'm aware of it. 00:39:43.030 --> 00:39:48.079 I practice the... concepts of it but not i wouldn't 00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:52.059 say that i put them inside lent and done um so 00:39:52.059 --> 00:39:57.780 40 days leading up to easter and the idea behind 00:39:57.780 --> 00:40:02.340 it is that it's a time when i choose to forego 00:40:02.340 --> 00:40:05.519 something so i choose to fast from something 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:09.760 for the purpose of creating space for self -examination 00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:13.360 um where am i really at how am i really doing 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.559 And then also to create space for intimacy with 00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.280 God. And the goal would be that, at least my 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:24.059 understanding of it, the goal would be that you're 00:40:24.059 --> 00:40:26.719 taking something negative out of your life intentionally. 00:40:26.980 --> 00:40:29.760 You're doing without, and it could be a positive, 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.659 I guess, but you're doing without to create space 00:40:32.659 --> 00:40:36.639 to put back in. And so it's a journey with God 00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:42.099 through the fast and creating space that allows 00:40:42.099 --> 00:40:46.570 time. to sit with God, allow space to ask God 00:40:46.570 --> 00:40:49.289 to examine you, to show you. I kind of what we 00:40:49.289 --> 00:40:50.670 were talking about before, but doing it with 00:40:50.670 --> 00:40:53.610 God, man, where, where am I really at? Where's 00:40:53.610 --> 00:40:56.269 my heart? Where's my, and then also create space 00:40:56.269 --> 00:40:59.269 for prayer, create space for, but it's an intentional, 00:40:59.409 --> 00:41:04.030 um, time and the 40 days. I mean, 40 is all over 00:41:04.030 --> 00:41:07.449 scripture, right? Like Jesus fasted for 40. Uh, 00:41:07.550 --> 00:41:10.110 you got Moses in 40, you got Noah in 40, like, 00:41:10.130 --> 00:41:13.329 like 40 is connected. And so that, That's where 00:41:13.329 --> 00:41:15.269 I think the 40 comes from. Again, I'm not an 00:41:15.269 --> 00:41:18.670 expert in Lent by any stretch. But with that, 00:41:18.789 --> 00:41:23.130 the goal is very, very healthy. The goal is, 00:41:23.190 --> 00:41:26.949 my understanding of it, the goal isn't to beat 00:41:26.949 --> 00:41:31.010 my body, so to speak, or punish myself. It's 00:41:31.010 --> 00:41:34.130 a spiritual practice that creates space for growth 00:41:34.130 --> 00:41:36.730 and transformation. Yeah, and to focus on who 00:41:36.730 --> 00:41:40.070 God is and how he fits in your life leading up 00:41:40.070 --> 00:41:44.300 to. the most influential event in all of human 00:41:44.300 --> 00:41:47.039 history yeah and the breaking of land as a as 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.199 a setting free right like and so you have the 00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:51.320 empty tomb which is a setting free which is a 00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.559 picture of larger uh the larger story narrative 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:59.400 have you ever practiced lent um i mean just not 00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:02.860 not in a formal setting like but yeah hey lent's 00:42:02.860 --> 00:42:05.039 coming what are you giving up for lent yeah hey, 00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.500 I'm going to intentionally do exactly what you 00:42:07.500 --> 00:42:10.239 just talked about. But it wasn't in a service 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:13.179 or anything like that. The church that I came 00:42:13.179 --> 00:42:15.699 from, my last church, we actually did have Ash 00:42:15.699 --> 00:42:19.639 Wednesday services. Ash Wednesday, we were a 00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:21.539 non -denominational Christian church, but we 00:42:21.539 --> 00:42:23.960 would do Ash Wednesday. It was the first church 00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:26.000 I'd been to that had Ash Wednesday services, 00:42:26.300 --> 00:42:29.599 and we'd do the cross with the ash on forehead 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:33.139 and all that stuff. It was a cool thing because 00:42:33.139 --> 00:42:35.639 I'd never experienced it at all. Yeah. Cause 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.400 it's not necessarily found in. Which the ash 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.519 on the head is a reminder of our humanity, right? 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.800 Like ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Yeah. Yeah. 00:42:44.820 --> 00:42:47.420 Which is, which is just a, again, I not growing 00:42:47.420 --> 00:42:49.219 up with it. It's, it's an interesting, what was 00:42:49.219 --> 00:42:52.480 the response of people to it? So for, for us, 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.019 the way that we did it at the last church I was 00:42:54.019 --> 00:42:56.199 at was, was basically like a worship night. Okay. 00:42:56.219 --> 00:42:57.659 So it was kind of like a worship night, maybe 00:42:57.659 --> 00:42:59.880 some short message. And then there was just the, 00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:02.639 the tradition of the ash piece. And I don't know. 00:43:03.210 --> 00:43:05.670 If our lead pastor at the time, like he had come 00:43:05.670 --> 00:43:08.090 from a tradition where I truly don't know where 00:43:08.090 --> 00:43:10.329 it came from. We're a pretty large church with 00:43:10.329 --> 00:43:12.889 a lot of staff. So a lot of the details on that. 00:43:12.889 --> 00:43:14.030 Did you have a lot of those traditions there? 00:43:14.469 --> 00:43:16.630 No, that was what was interesting. That was kind 00:43:16.630 --> 00:43:19.309 of the only one. We didn't have other stuff that 00:43:19.309 --> 00:43:22.809 we did. So yeah, it was interesting. But that 00:43:22.809 --> 00:43:26.389 was my first look into it. Nothing wrong with 00:43:26.389 --> 00:43:28.409 Lent or Ash Wednesday or any of those things. 00:43:28.530 --> 00:43:30.369 We don't do them at Heights because it's just 00:43:30.369 --> 00:43:32.760 not really a part of. but there's nothing wrong 00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:36.099 with it to answer this question here. Yeah, and 00:43:36.099 --> 00:43:41.119 I would say to our Heights girl, how about that? 00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:45.539 Yeah, there you go. I would say the beauty that 00:43:45.539 --> 00:43:52.320 I see in the tradition of faith is that to encourage 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:56.420 her that if Lent is something that holds tradition 00:43:56.420 --> 00:44:00.300 and meaning to her, the beauty is... You don't 00:44:00.300 --> 00:44:03.880 need a priest to kind of set up Lent for you. 00:44:03.980 --> 00:44:07.840 Yeah. Meaning you could start today and go, yeah, 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:12.119 it's not the 40 days. It's not the traditional, 00:44:12.380 --> 00:44:14.840 right? But there's nothing stopping you today 00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:16.699 going, hey, I want to be more intentional leading 00:44:16.699 --> 00:44:19.960 up to Easter to have my mind on God and what 00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.579 he's done for me. And so therefore, I'm going 00:44:22.579 --> 00:44:25.079 to forego. I'm going to fast something. I'm going 00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.539 to create space. between now and then. The freedom, 00:44:28.619 --> 00:44:32.099 to just encourage you, the freedom is there for 00:44:32.099 --> 00:44:34.800 you to do that even if the church isn't providing 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:41.280 a formal kind of kickoff with the... Is there 00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.920 a close to Lent? I don't know, actually. Yeah, 00:44:44.940 --> 00:44:48.519 I don't know. I've never... I do remember a couple 00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:52.059 years ago at Heights, we were doing a collection 00:44:52.059 --> 00:44:55.679 that aligned with... And we did do something 00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:57.800 that was like give up something intentionally. 00:44:58.019 --> 00:45:00.440 But I don't remember the details of it. But we 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.800 did something that was people were intentionally 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.199 giving up something during that time. But thank 00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:08.199 you for that question. I know there's different 00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:10.719 traditions and every church does things a little 00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:12.719 different. So clarification is always good. And 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:14.059 who knows? Maybe next year we'll have a Lent 00:45:14.059 --> 00:45:16.519 service. Never know. Never know. Well, if you've 00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.239 made it this far, you're a part of the end of 00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:21.949 the podcast club. saw the wheels turn you're 00:45:21.949 --> 00:45:24.449 like which sound do i do right now you weren't 00:45:24.449 --> 00:45:26.949 sure but i couldn't remember the other one if 00:45:26.949 --> 00:45:31.349 i'm honest that's probably a good thing it was 00:45:31.349 --> 00:45:34.769 was it no it wasn't womp womp it was it was something 00:45:34.769 --> 00:45:37.590 pretty awful like that maybe um but thank you 00:45:37.590 --> 00:45:39.909 so much if you're a part because you're in the 00:45:39.909 --> 00:45:42.210 podcast club we're celebrating you we should 00:45:42.210 --> 00:45:46.710 get the trumpets out you and your sounds dude 00:45:46.710 --> 00:45:49.260 this is i don't I don't know how much longer 00:45:49.260 --> 00:45:50.960 I can put up with this. 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What 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:27.780 is it that you are putting your stake in that 00:46:27.780 --> 00:46:29.599 you are carrying with you? That's just adding 00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.960 extra weight, but not helping you get to your 00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:34.019 destination. Only you and God can figure that 00:46:34.019 --> 00:46:36.760 out together, but hopefully you are moving closer 00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.579 to him in an efficient and easy way that is not 00:46:39.579 --> 00:46:41.619 bringing things you don't need to bring. Love 00:46:41.619 --> 00:46:43.599 you guys. See you next week. Love you.