Welcome to the Daily AI News Podcast.
Looks like you are really into this AI stuff, huh?
This week, we're diving deep, especially with all the recent developments.
And the drama.
Yeah, for sure, some drama too.
And we've got your stack of articles right here.
Awesome.
So let's try to figure out what's really important and what's just hype, you know.
It's been a wild ride lately, that's for sure.
Yeah, no kidding.
Okay, so first up, remember that big chatgy PT outage on the 26th?
Oh yeah.
Everyone was freaking out.
The memes were great.
Yeah, it was crazy.
There's a pretty big outage.
So what happened?
OpenAI was kind of vague about it.
What did they say?
They blamed like an upstream provider or something.
What's that even mean?
I don't know, but it looks like it was probably connected to some power issues
Microsoft was having at one of their data centers.
Oh really?
Yeah, because remember Microsoft is like their exclusive cloud provider.
Oh right, right.
And that outage messed up a bunch of other stuff too, like Xbox cloud gaming.
That's interesting.
Yes.
It is kind of funny though, right?
I mean this super advanced AI that's supposed to be able to write like Shakespeare and all that.
Yeah.
Taken down by a power outage.
I think they'd have some kind of backup system, right?
Yeah, well this isn't even the first time chatgy PT has gone offline.
Really?
Yeah, they had one back in June and then just earlier this month, their new text to video thing.
Oh, Sora.
Yeah, Sora went down too.
Oh, make sure you wonder how reliable all this stuff really is.
Well, especially with all the hype about it being the future of everything, you know?
Yeah, for sure.
And speaking of things that make you wonder, the Guardian found this security flaw in that new chatgy PT search.
Yeah.
You know, the AI search engine.
Right.
Some researchers were able to trick it.
How?
Well, they got it to ignore like bad reviews and even to spit out harmful code just by using hidden text on websites.
Oh wow.
Crazy, right?
Yeah, that's a pretty big deal.
I know.
It's the first demonstrated attack on a live AI search product.
That we know of at least.
Yeah, Google's probably been dealing with this kind of thing for years with their regular search, you know?
Yeah, I guess so.
But AI search is so new, it's kind of uncharted territory.
It really makes you think, right?
Oh.
Like is AI search inherently less secure?
Interesting question.
Or is it just, you know, still early days?
What do you think?
I think it's definitely something to watch closely.
But AI is here to stay.
Right.
And search is just one part of it.
Yeah, true.
Okay, well, let's keep talking about these potential problems with AI.
Okay.
Let's talk about Microsoft.
What are they doing with their AI ambitions, you know?
They're putting a ton of resources into co-pilot, their AI assistant.
Right.
But it doesn't seem like it's going as well as they hoped.
It's interesting what they're doing though, their strategy.
What do you mean?
Well, they're basically bundling co-pilot with all their Microsoft 365 subscriptions.
Oh, really?
And raising prices, even if people don't want it.
Oh, wow.
It's causing some problems, to say the least.
Yeah.
Remember that guy in Australia, Alistair Fleming?
He was getting all these co-pilot pop-ups.
Yeah.
And then they upped his subscription price.
He was comparing to Clippy, you know.
That little paperclip?
Yeah.
From like way back.
But you know, from Microsoft's side, it makes sense.
Right there.
They've invested a ton in AI.
Right.
Especially with open AI.
Yeah.
And they want to see a return.
So they're betting big on co-pilot.
Yeah, but co-pilot is really behind chat GPT in the consumer market.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, download numbers are way lower.
What do you think that is?
Well, I think there are concerns about accuracy.
Right.
Data privacy.
You're sure.
And the cost is a factor.
Definitely.
And honestly, I think people just prefer chat GPT.
I think you're right.
And then there's also that whole thing with Microsoft and open AI.
Yeah, what's that?
I mean, Microsoft needs open AI's technology.
Yeah.
But at the same time, open AI is a competitor.
Right.
Especially with chat GPT enterprise.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a tricky situation.
It is.
But remember, this is just the beginning for Microsoft.
What do you mean?
They're already talking about developing AI agents.
Oh, wow.
That can do even more complex tasks.
So they're playing the long game.
Definitely.
Interesting.
Okay, so let's shift gears a bit.
Uh-huh.
Let's talk about the rise of open AI.
Okay.
Definitely with that.
So there's this Chinese lab, DeepSeq.
Okay.
And they just released DeepSeq V3.
V3.
Yeah.
And it's making some noise.
What is it?
It's one of the most powerful open AI models out there.
So what does that mean?
Like open.
Good question.
Open means that developers can actually download it.
Oh, wow.
And they can tinker with it, even use it for commercial stuff.
So it's different from chat GPT.
Yeah, totally different from these closed models like chat GPT.
You can only access those through their API.
So chat GPT is closed.
Right.
And get this.
DeepSeq V3, it's not just open.
It's really good.
Is it?
Yeah.
In some tests, it even beats out some closed models like GPT-4O
and Meta's Lama 3.1 405B.
Impressive.
And the crazy part is they did it all for way less money than open AI
spent on GPT-4.
Really?
How?
They used a whole data center full of those NVIDIA E800 GPUs.
Oh, wow.
The ones that the US is trying to stop them from getting.
Yeah, exactly.
That's pretty amazing.
It is.
I mean, even with those restrictions,
they're still innovating and competing.
Okay, so DeepSeq V3 is open.
Right.
It's powerful.
It's cost effective.
Yeah.
But there's got to be a catch, right?
Well, there is one thing.
Okay.
Being a Chinese company,
DeepSeq has to play by the government's rules, you know?
Right.
So the model, it avoids anything politically sensitive.
Makes sense in that context.
It's a different environment for sure.
Yeah, definitely.
But it's still a pretty exciting development.
Absolutely.
Open AI could really change things up.
Yeah, it has the potential to really change the game.
How so?
Well, more competition, more innovation,
and more accessible AI for everyone.
Yeah, it's a good thing.
It's definitely a space to watch.
For sure.
So speaking of things that could change things up.
Yeah.
Let's talk about AI and art.
Okay.
You hear about that new AI art magazine.
I have.
It's pretty cool.
I have.
A whole magazine about AI art.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
And it's not just like showcasing cool artwork.
They're really trying to chronicle how AI art is changing.
Okay.
And exploring like all the big questions about creativity.
That makes sense.
And this new digital age, you know?
Yeah, for sure.
I did see that they are independently funded.
Right.
That's great.
Which is awesome.
They can really dive into all those like complicated issues
without any commercial pressure.
Plus, their first issue has a jury member created by AI.
No way, really.
Talk about blurring the lines, right?
Between human and machine creativity, right?
Yeah.
And there's an essay in that first issue.
Oh, yeah.
By that famous designer, David Carson.
Okay.
And he asks this really thought-provoking question.
What's that?
If you just give a command to a machine,
are you really an artist?
Wow, that's a good one.
Right.
That's a question that's going to be debated for a long time.
I think so.
So it's cool that AI art is pushing the boundaries like that.
Yeah.
And starting all these philosophical conversations.
Definitely.
But it's also having some unintended consequences.
Like what?
Specifically in the world of like traditional crafts.
You talk about those AI-generated lace making books.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, yeah, those are weird.
It's crazy.
So scammers are using AI to create these fake lace making books.
Right.
And they're full of either stolen designs.
Oh, wow.
Or instructions that just don't even make sense.
Seriously.
And then they sell them online to beginners.
Oh, no.
Who don't know any better.
It's a real problem.
It is.
And it's not just lace making.
It could happen anywhere that AI can generate content.
Oh, that's true.
Think about it.
Yeah.
Music, writing, even scientific research.
Wow, you're right.
Yeah.
So experienced lace makers are worried, understandably.
They're saying that this is going to devalue the skill.
Right.
The artistry of lace making and make it harder for people to learn the craft.
Yeah.
And in the end, it could hurt the people who actually make a living from it.
That's a good point.
It's a reminder that as AI gets more and more sophisticated.
Right.
We have to watch out for how it can be misused.
Definitely.
We need to like harness its power.
For good?
Yeah, for good.
Yeah.
But also like protect against the downsides, you know.
Absolutely.
It's a balancing act.
It is.
For sure.
But on a lighter note.
Okay.
This is seriously cool.
What?
Researchers at Osaka University are working on something.
Uh-huh.
They could help us get over that uncanny valley thing.
Oh, in androids?
Yeah.
You know that creepy feeling you get?
Yeah, when something's like almost human, but not quite.
Exactly.
The uncanny valley, that's a big hurdle in making androids.
That people actually want to connect with.
I know, it's weird.
It's like our brains can't handle it.
So what are they doing?
They're developing this new technology.
What is it?
It uses waveform movements.
Okay.
To make Android faces more natural.
Oh, cool.
And expressive.
How does it work?
So instead of having those pre-programmed expressions.
Right.
They're representing different gestures, you know.
Like what?
Like breathing.
Okay.
Blinking.
Uh-huh.
Even yawning.
Wow.
As individual waves.
That's interesting.
And those can be combined to create these more complex expressions.
Oh, wow.
So they're not just robots anymore.
Yeah.
And they can do it in real time too.
Really?
So the androids can react to stuff.
Oh, wow.
It's pretty mind blowing.
Yeah.
The researchers think this is a game changer for making androids.
I bet.
They're hoping that it's going to lead to androids that are seen as having like a heart.
Interesting.
And can have more meaningful interactions with us.
It's a glimpse into a future where androids could be more than just machines.
Right?
Yeah, exactly.
Imagine them as companions or caregivers or even collaborators.
Yeah.
And it is exciting.
But also a little unsettling.
Yeah, for sure.
It makes you think about what it even means to be human.
It does.
Okay, so we've talked about some potential problems with AI.
Yeah.
But let's get back to the positive stuff.
Okay.
Did you see that DeepSeq actually open sourced DeepSeq v3?
Wait, really?
Yeah.
I thought we were just saying that it was open for developers to use.
Right.
So open sourcing goes even further.
How?
They're making the whole code-based public.
Oh, wow.
Anyone can download it, study it, even change it.
Wow.
They can even redistribute it.
So they're like giving away the recipe for their secret sauce?
Exactly.
Why would they do that?
Well, maybe they're just being nice.
Nice.
You know, sharing the AI love.
But it's also a good business move, right?
Yeah.
So by open sourcing it, they're getting the whole global developer community involved.
Right.
And more people using it and improving it means faster innovation.
So it benefits DeepSeq, too.
Exactly.
It's a win-win.
Yeah.
Developers get this powerful AI and DeepSeq gets tons of people helping them make it better.
It's a great example of how open source can really speed up progress in AI.
For sure.
And it might even put pressure on other companies to be more transparent with their AI development.
It's definitely a trend to watch.
Yeah.
Who knows, maybe one day all the big AI models will be open source.
That would be something else.
It would be an all new world.
It would.
But for now, let's switch gears again and talk about something a little more tangible.
Like what?
Goyai generated lace.
Wait, are we talking about those fake lace making books again?
No, no, not the books.
This is about real lace being made by AI.
Seriously.
Yeah, there's this company.
What are they doing?
They're using AI to design and make these really intricate lace patterns.
I didn't even know that was possible.
So they've trained an AI on a huge data set of traditional lace designs.
Wow.
And now it can come up with totally new patterns.
Really?
That are both like beautiful to look at and structurally sound.
So it's not just copying old designs.
No, it's creating something new.
That's amazing.
It's like having a master lace maker right there in your computer.
But isn't that going to put traditional lace makers out of business?
That's a good question.
But this company sees it more like a collaboration.
Really?
They're working with lace making artisans to integrate the AI-generated designs into their work.
Interesting.
So it's about helping them, not replacing them.
So it's augmenting their skills with AI.
Exactly.
It's a good example of how AI can be used to preserve and even elevate traditional crafts.
I like that.
Yeah.
That's way more optimistic than those fake lace making books.
Definitely.
It's cool to see how AI can be used for good.
And speaking of inspiration, did you see the AI Art Magazine's latest project?
You mean that AI-generated fashion show?
Yeah.
Yeah, I saw the photos.
Well, actually, it's...
The clothes was so wild.
Yeah, I know, right.
It was like something out of a movie.
It was a powerful statement about what AI can do.
For creativity.
Exactly.
And it got people talking about the future of fashion.
And the role of human designers.
Right.
Or...
It really makes you think.
Where is fashion headed in this age of AI?
Yeah.
It's just one example of how AI is everywhere now.
I know, it's great.
From the clothes we wear to the art we create.
To the way we search for information.
Right.
It's a wild ride, for sure.
It is.
And we're just getting started.
Yeah, it really is crazy how fast everything's moving.
I know.
And we've only, like, scratched the surface of what's happening with AI right now.
I think you're right.
Speaking of, like, keeping up, I read this article.
Oh, yeah.
About what?
It was about how AI is being used to personalize education plans.
Interesting.
It's a pretty fascinating idea.
Yeah.
That's a big area right now.
Right, so using AI.
Yeah.
To, like, tailor learning.
To each student.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a cool concept.
So instead of everyone learning the same stuff at the same pace.
Yeah.
You could have this AI system.
That figures out the best way for each kid to learn.
Yeah.
Based on their strengths and weaknesses.
Even their learning style.
It could be huge for education.
Yeah, especially for kids who don't do well in normal classrooms.
But what about teachers?
What about them?
Will they be replaced by robots?
I don't think so.
You don't.
I think it's more likely that AI will just be a tool for teachers.
Okay.
You know, something they can use.
So to help them personalize instruction.
Right, and track student progress.
And even figure out which students are struggling.
Yeah, stuff like that.
That makes sense.
So it's like AI can handle the boring stuff.
Right.
And free up teachers to focus on the important stuff.
Like mentoring and inspiring the human side of things.
Yeah.
It's about collaboration, not replacement.
That seems to be a recurring theme with AI, doesn't it?
Yeah, for sure.
It's not about getting rid of humans.
Right.
It's about helping us do things better.
It's all about finding that balance.
I think you're right.
Yeah.
Okay, well, I think we've covered a lot today.
We have.
From the glitches to the ethical stuff.
Yeah.
The breakthroughs.
The potential impact on society.
Definitely.
It's clear that AI is a force to be reckoned with.
No doubt.
It's a topic that people are talking a lot about.
It definitely sparks a lot of debate.
And that's good, isn't it?
I mean, we need to be having these conversations.
Oh, absolutely.
We need to think critically about what AI means.
And how we want to shape its future.
Exactly.
It's not just about the technology.
What else is it about?
It's about what kind of future we want.
I like that.
Well, thanks for joining me on this deep dive into AI.
It's just been fun.
It has, it's been a really interesting conversation.
Yeah, I agree.
All right, well, that's it for today.
Okay.
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