1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,880 Welcome to the Daily AI News podcast. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,280 Today, we're gonna be taking a deep dive into AI news. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:08,120 Okay. 4 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:09,400 Exploring some recent developments 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,800 and just seeing how much AI is really impacting our world. 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:13,640 Yeah. 7 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,320 We've got legal dramas, artistic protests, corporate intrigue. 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,160 Oh, wow. 9 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,440 And we've got news articles, company announcements, 10 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,880 expert commentary, the whole shebang. 11 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,720 Cool. 12 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:25,560 You ready to get into it? 13 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,080 Yeah, I think what I find really fascinating 14 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,840 about all these sources that we have 15 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,480 is how they highlight just how multifaceted 16 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:36,400 this whole AI evolution is becoming. 17 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,480 It's not just about the tech anymore. 18 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:40,280 It's also about how it's impacting 19 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,800 all these different sectors 20 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,280 and the ethical and economic questions that are coming up. 21 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,840 Yeah, it's really interesting to see it all play out. 22 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,080 Where should we start? 23 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Let's start with open AI. 24 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,160 Okay. 25 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:51,640 They've been making a lot of headlines lately. 26 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,480 Yeah, they have. 27 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:55,520 Both with Sora, their text to video AI model, 28 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,840 and also just some interesting financial moves. 29 00:00:58,840 --> 00:00:59,680 Right, yeah. 30 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,120 So they've decided to let employees cash out 31 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,840 some of their shares, up to $1.5 billion worth. 32 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,440 And guess who's buying? 33 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,480 SoftBank. 34 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,320 Oh, wow. 35 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:13,400 Which, you know, they already pumped $500 million 36 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,720 into open AI during a recent funding round. 37 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,560 Right. 38 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,440 But apparently their CEO wanted a bigger piece of the pie. 39 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,320 So that's really interesting. 40 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:26,240 Could having a larger stake influence open AI's direction? 41 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,080 Potentially, yeah. 42 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,400 Like their research priorities? 43 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,400 Yeah, I mean, while financial investment 44 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,880 doesn't always mean like direct control, 45 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,240 I think a larger stake could give SoftBank more leverage 46 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,280 in decision making. 47 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,120 For sure. 48 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,280 So yeah, I think it definitely raises some questions 49 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,800 about how open AI is going to navigate its future development 50 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,240 and whether they can stay committed 51 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,360 to their stated mission, you know, 52 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,800 given these commercial interests that are coming into play. 53 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,880 Yeah, absolutely. 54 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,200 And speaking of open AI, 55 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,040 Yes. 56 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,720 Sora, remember Sora? 57 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:56,560 Yeah. 58 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,880 The text to video model. 59 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,640 Well, there's a group of artists now 60 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,520 that are claiming that they leaked access to it. 61 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,360 Really? 62 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Yeah. 63 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Interesting. 64 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:05,880 With a form of protest. 65 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:06,720 Oh, wow. 66 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:07,720 So what's their beef? 67 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,720 It seems like they're arguing that open AI 68 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,000 is basically using them for free research and development 69 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,440 through Sora, 70 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,720 that they're not being compensated fairly for their work. 71 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:19,560 Interesting. 72 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,680 And that open AI is engaging in this art washing thing. 73 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:23,680 Art washing, yeah. 74 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,960 Which is basically using the credibility of artists 75 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,720 to make their products seem more legit. 76 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,680 Yeah, makes sense. 77 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,680 And you know what else? 78 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,720 Apparently the leaked version of Sora 79 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,520 had a functional interface for creating videos. 80 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:36,360 Wow. 81 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,360 But open AI shut it down pretty quickly. 82 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,760 Oh, really? 83 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,160 And they're also requiring artists 84 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,560 to get every single output approved before they can share it. 85 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,920 Oh, wow. 86 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:47,400 That's a lot of control, isn't it? 87 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,240 Yeah. 88 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,400 Makes you wonder, you know, 89 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,920 is it really about responsible use? 90 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:53,800 Or is it more about open AI protecting 91 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,520 their intellectual property? 92 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,880 Or maintaining a very carefully curated image? 93 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Yeah, it's definitely interesting. 94 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,280 Yeah, it definitely adds a new layer, I think, 95 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,960 to the debate that's going on about artist compensation 96 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,920 and the influence of these big tech companies 97 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:10,720 on the creative process. 98 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,200 Shifting focus now to how big tech 99 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,720 is using data to train AI. 100 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,560 Okay. 101 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,880 And Australian Inquiry recently concluded 102 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,520 that Amazon, Google, and Meta 103 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,840 are basically pillaging data for this. 104 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,720 Yeah, they weren't exactly transparent 105 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,520 about how they were doing it either, were they? 106 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,360 No, not really. 107 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,400 The report highlights that they dodged a lot of questions 108 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,600 about their data collection and usage, 109 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,240 especially when it came to AI development. 110 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,080 Yeah. 111 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Which is, I think, a little bit worrying 112 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,560 considering the massive amounts of personal data 113 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,400 that they hold. 114 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,240 Oh, for sure. 115 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,680 I mean, if they're using our data to train AI, 116 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,960 shouldn't we at least have a clear understanding 117 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,000 of how it's being used? 118 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:50,840 Yeah, for sure. 119 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,240 And it's funny, because then you have Microsoft 120 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,600 claiming that they aren't using data from Office apps 121 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,160 to train their AI, but then you have platforms 122 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,000 like BlueSky with their open API. 123 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Right. 124 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,720 Which basically means anyone can scrape 125 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,760 public posts for AI training. 126 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,000 So it seems like there's a little bit of a discrepancy there. 127 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:07,840 There is. 128 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,040 I mean, it just highlights this tension 129 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,200 that's growing around user privacy 130 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,600 and how much control we have over our own data 131 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,800 in the age of AI. 132 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Absolutely. 133 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,960 It's like, what are the boundaries here? 134 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:20,800 You know? 135 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,640 Yeah. 136 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,520 And do we as users even have a say 137 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,360 in how our data is being used, 138 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,720 especially when it's for something 139 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,960 as potentially impactful as AI? 140 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,840 All right, so we've got corporate maneuvering, 141 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:37,400 artistic protests, big tech under fire. 142 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,120 Seems like there's never a dull moment, huh? 143 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,160 No, not at all. 144 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,440 Not in the AI world anyway. 145 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,120 Let's talk about how AI is impacting creative industries. 146 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:45,960 Sounds good. 147 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,320 That's where it gets really interesting, I think. 148 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,160 I think it too. 149 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,000 And I think you're gonna have some thoughts 150 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,840 about this next one. 151 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:50,680 Okay. 152 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:51,960 It's called Spines. 153 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,600 And they wanna publish 8,000 books next year. 154 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,680 8,000? 155 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,680 Using AI. 156 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,480 Wow, that's ambitious. 157 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,720 They're charging authors thousands of dollars 158 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,280 for this service, which includes AI-assisted editing, 159 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:06,160 formatting, and distribution. 160 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,720 Authors get to keep all the royalties, 161 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,520 but the whole thing is raising some eyebrows. 162 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,600 Is this the future of publishing 163 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,720 or is it a complete disaster waiting to happen? 164 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,240 It's certainly a bold move. 165 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,440 It speaks, I think, to this growing influence 166 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,960 that AI is having in creative fields. 167 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,680 I mean, we've already seen AI being used 168 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,000 to generate content, write music, even create art. 169 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,120 But this, this is taking it to a whole other level. 170 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,960 I mean, using it to mass produce books 171 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,160 on this kind of scale. 172 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,240 Like, what does that even mean for quality? 173 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,080 Exactly. 174 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,320 What about human creativity? 175 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,800 Will this benefit the literary world 176 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,840 or is it gonna harm it in the long run? 177 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:48,760 Yeah, it's almost like a factory-style approach 178 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,000 to book publishing, isn't it? 179 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,240 Yeah, there's definitely a sense of that. 180 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,600 And, you know, it's understandable in a way 181 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,840 because there's this pressure on authors 182 00:05:56,840 --> 00:06:00,400 to constantly produce more content faster. 183 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,640 But I think it's so important that we step back 184 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,600 and think about the consequences. 185 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,680 You know, will this lead to a ton of mediocre content? 186 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,960 Will it devalue the work of actual human authors 187 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,000 and editors? 188 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,960 These are big questions that we need to figure out. 189 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:15,840 Right, right. 190 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:17,440 And it's, I mean, remember the whole thing 191 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,160 with Harper Collins and Microsoft? 192 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,000 Oh, yeah. 193 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,800 They allowed some of their titles to be used to train AI. 194 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:24,640 Right. 195 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,600 This almost seems like it's taking that a step further, 196 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,440 doesn't it? 197 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,040 It does, and it really highlights this key issue 198 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,760 that's at the heart of a lot of those conversations 199 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,480 we're having about AI and creative work, 200 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,360 which is ownership and control. 201 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Who owns the rights to AI-generated content? 202 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,840 How should authors be compensated when their work is used? 203 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:45,680 Right, right. 204 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,520 These are big, complex questions, 205 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,320 and we're really just starting to think about them. 206 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,240 Absolutely. 207 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,120 And this brings us to another area 208 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,320 where AI is making a big impact, 209 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,760 and that's the legal system. 210 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,120 Oh, yeah. 211 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,320 It seems like the law is constantly playing catch up, 212 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,160 you know? 213 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,360 Trying to figure out how to deal with all these advancements. 214 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,320 And sometimes the results are, 215 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,360 well, let's just say they kind of highlight 216 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,520 the need for some clearer guidelines. 217 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,720 Yeah. 218 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,760 Yeah, we've seen some interesting cases 219 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,880 that really drive this point home. 220 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:15,640 Oh, yeah. 221 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,720 Like, for example, remember that lawyer in Texas 222 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,760 who got fined for submitting court filings with fake citations? 223 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,320 From AI. 224 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,960 That were generated by AI? 225 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:24,720 It was wild. 226 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,480 He said that he didn't know they were fake. 227 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Right. 228 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,880 But it doesn't really matter, does it? 229 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:29,200 No. 230 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,560 He's still gotten trouble. 231 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,320 Yeah, and the FTC is also getting involved. 232 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,880 They're cracking down on companies 233 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,080 that make misleading claims about their AI-powered products. 234 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,720 Like, remember Evolve Technologies? 235 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,440 Oh, yeah. 236 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:42,480 The security scanners? 237 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,440 They claim that their AI-powered scanners 238 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,040 could detect all weapons. 239 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,000 Right, right. 240 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,200 But there's a bit of a problem. 241 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Oh, yeah. 242 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,800 There's a big problem. 243 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,760 Turns out that their scanners missed a knife that 244 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,080 was used in a school-stabbing incident. 245 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,200 That's awful. 246 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:57,480 Yeah. 247 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,240 So the FTC is making it very clear 248 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,480 that they're not going to tolerate these misleading claims. 249 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Rightfully so. 250 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Especially when public safety is on the line. 251 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Right. 252 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,160 And it just seems like with AI, we 253 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,080 have to really reconsider our assumptions 254 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,320 about security, trust, and accountability. 255 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,080 Absolutely. 256 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,080 I think that's where transparency and ethics become so important. 257 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,320 As we're integrating AI more and more into our lives, 258 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,760 we need to be sure that it's being 259 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,520 developed and deployed responsibly. 260 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,960 Speeding your responsible development, 261 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,600 there's been some really interesting news in open source AI. 262 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:31,880 Yeah. 263 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,760 Have you heard about Olmo 2? 264 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:34,720 I have. 265 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,000 I'm really fascinated by this. 266 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:36,500 Yeah. 267 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:39,280 It's this new family of open source language models 268 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,480 that's being developed by AI too. 269 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,680 And the thing is, they're claiming that it's as good 270 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:45,360 as Meta's Lama model. 271 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,720 So I mean, what does that mean for the AI landscape? 272 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,960 What's so special about it being open source? 273 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,840 Well, the fact that it's fully open source 274 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,360 means that everything, like the tools and data used 275 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,960 to develop it, is public. 276 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,280 Anybody can access it. 277 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:57,640 Wow. 278 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,680 Which is a big deal, because it just makes everything 279 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:00,680 more transparent. 280 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:01,200 Yeah. 281 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,480 It encourages collaboration in research. 282 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,840 Anybody can examine the code, the data. 283 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:08,480 Wow. 284 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,160 And it allows for a lot more scrutiny and accountability, 285 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,640 which I think is really important. 286 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,920 So it's kind of like opening up that black box of AI 287 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,160 development and letting everybody peek inside. 288 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:18,920 Exactly. 289 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,280 And I think that that kind of openness is so crucial. 290 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:22,760 Yeah. 291 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,120 If we want to build trust and make sure 292 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,600 that AI is developed in a way that actually benefits everyone. 293 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:28,800 Right. 294 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,120 Not just to select few. 295 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:30,920 Exactly. 296 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,040 And this whole open source thing, 297 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,120 it seems like a positive step toward a more ethical and 298 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,280 collaborative AI. 299 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,080 Because that's what we're doing. 300 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,960 It's trying to get to the ecosystem. 301 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,560 Right. 302 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:44,560 But before we go too far down that road, 303 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:46,560 I want to go back to something you mentioned earlier. 304 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:47,000 Right. 305 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,320 The Harper Collins deal with Microsoft. 306 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Oh, yeah, yeah. 307 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,320 Can you just remind us what that was all about? 308 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:51,820 Yeah. 309 00:09:51,820 --> 00:09:53,280 So earlier this month, it came out 310 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,600 that Harper Collins made this agreement with Microsoft. 311 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,080 OK. 312 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,560 And it allowed them to use some of their book titles 313 00:09:58,560 --> 00:09:59,960 to train their AI models. 314 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:00,720 Right. 315 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,400 Right. 316 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,120 But the key thing here is that they're 317 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,720 requiring permission from the authors. 318 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,320 Oh, yeah. 319 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Before their work can be used. 320 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,860 sourcing happening. Yeah, there is. But it still brings up all those questions, right? 321 00:10:10,860 --> 00:10:15,060 About copyright and ownership and how should authors be compensated? 322 00:10:15,060 --> 00:10:18,260 Well, absolutely. I mean, it's not just authors who are wrestling with this. Yeah. 323 00:10:18,260 --> 00:10:22,620 We're seeing musicians, artists, journalists, all raising concerns about 324 00:10:22,620 --> 00:10:28,100 their work being used without their consent or, you know, without being paid for it. 325 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:33,940 It's clear that the legal and ethical frameworks surrounding AI, they're still 326 00:10:33,940 --> 00:10:38,300 very much in development. Oh, for sure. And as this technology keeps evolving, 327 00:10:38,300 --> 00:10:42,620 yeah, we really have to rethink how we approach these issues. One of the things 328 00:10:42,620 --> 00:10:46,260 that I find fascinating about this whole thing is the tension that exists between 329 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:51,780 the potential of AI and the very real risks. Right. I mean, on one hand, you've 330 00:10:51,780 --> 00:10:56,580 got the potential to revolutionize entire industries, you know, to make our 331 00:10:56,580 --> 00:11:00,260 lives better, to solve some of the world's biggest problems. But on the other 332 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:06,020 hand, you also have these serious concerns about bias and privacy and, you 333 00:11:06,020 --> 00:11:11,960 know, jobs being displaced. And I mean, even AI being used for like malicious 334 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,940 purposes, right? We're already seeing those play out. So where do we go from 335 00:11:15,940 --> 00:11:19,660 here? Right. How do we navigate this, this whole landscape? Yeah. And ensure that 336 00:11:19,660 --> 00:11:23,300 it's being used for good. That's the million dollar question, isn't it? Yeah. I 337 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:26,660 think it's going to require a lot of different things, you know. We need to 338 00:11:26,660 --> 00:11:32,260 invest in some strong ethical guidelines. Right. We need clear legal frameworks. 339 00:11:32,260 --> 00:11:37,500 Yeah. And we need to be promoting transparency and accountability for sure 340 00:11:37,500 --> 00:11:42,140 how AI is developed. And maybe this push towards open source AI, like we saw 341 00:11:42,140 --> 00:11:46,660 with Olmo 2, is a step in the right direction. I think it could be. I mean, 342 00:11:46,660 --> 00:11:51,380 open source AI has the potential to make this technology more accessible, you 343 00:11:51,380 --> 00:11:55,340 know, for everybody, not just a few. Right. It could foster more collaboration, 344 00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:58,940 more innovation. For sure. But it also comes with its own challenges, right? We 345 00:11:58,940 --> 00:12:03,580 need to make sure that these open source AI models are being developed and used 346 00:12:03,580 --> 00:12:08,740 responsibly. Right. That we have safeguards. Yeah. To prevent misuse. It feels like 347 00:12:08,740 --> 00:12:13,260 we're constantly playing catch up. I know. You know, AI is advancing so quickly. It 348 00:12:13,260 --> 00:12:17,660 really is. And are we really understanding the implications? Yeah, I agree. And this 349 00:12:17,660 --> 00:12:20,780 is why I think it's so important for everybody to be part of this conversation. 350 00:12:20,780 --> 00:12:24,100 Yeah. This isn't just something that's happening in some labs somewhere. Right. 351 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:30,820 It's impacting all of us in huge ways. Okay. So let's talk about what that 352 00:12:30,820 --> 00:12:34,780 future might look like. Yeah. I mean, we've covered a lot of ground here today. 353 00:12:34,780 --> 00:12:41,180 Yeah, we have. From the financial world to artistic pushback to legal battles, 354 00:12:41,180 --> 00:12:47,580 the rise of open source, AI is everywhere. It really is. And I think one of the key 355 00:12:47,580 --> 00:12:52,500 takeaways here is that AI is not some future concept anymore. Right. It's here, 356 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:55,860 it's happening now. Yeah. And it's impacting everything from how we create 357 00:12:55,860 --> 00:13:01,620 art to how our laws are enforced. So as AI becomes even more integrated into our 358 00:13:01,620 --> 00:13:06,500 lives, what should we be paying attention to? Right. What are the big questions? 359 00:13:06,500 --> 00:13:11,740 The big questions. Yeah. I think one of the most urgent questions is how do we 360 00:13:11,740 --> 00:13:16,420 balance the potential benefits with the risks? How do we make sure that it's 361 00:13:16,420 --> 00:13:20,820 empowering people and not exploiting them? That's a big one. Yeah. And there's no 362 00:13:20,820 --> 00:13:24,460 easy answer. No, no, definitely not. It's going to require a lot of ongoing 363 00:13:24,460 --> 00:13:29,780 dialogue, thoughtful regulation, and a real commitment to ethical development. 364 00:13:29,780 --> 00:13:35,100 Yeah. We need to be asking ourselves tough questions about data privacy, bias, 365 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:40,140 and algorithms, the potential for people to lose their jobs. We have to think 366 00:13:40,140 --> 00:13:43,660 about all of that. And we need to make sure those questions are being asked by a 367 00:13:43,660 --> 00:13:48,420 lot of different people. Yes, absolutely. We need perspectives from artists, 368 00:13:48,420 --> 00:13:53,740 ethicists, social scientists, policymakers, everyday people, people who are 369 00:13:53,740 --> 00:13:56,940 going to be impacted. I think this whole conversation just highlights how 370 00:13:56,940 --> 00:14:00,780 important it is to stay informed about this stuff. Yeah. Because it's moving so 371 00:14:00,780 --> 00:14:04,860 fast. It is. And having such a huge impact on the world. Yeah. We can't just sit back 372 00:14:04,860 --> 00:14:08,460 and watch it happen. We can't. And I think it's important to remember that AI 373 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:14,260 isn't this one big scary thing. Right. It's a collection of tools, techniques 374 00:14:14,260 --> 00:14:19,380 that can be used in all sorts of ways, good and bad. The future of AI really 375 00:14:19,380 --> 00:14:22,740 depends on the choices that we're making right now. So for our listeners out there, 376 00:14:22,740 --> 00:14:27,660 what can they do to be a part of shaping that future? Well, I think the most 377 00:14:27,660 --> 00:14:33,540 important thing is to stay curious. Yeah. Stay informed. Yes. Stay engaged. You know, 378 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:38,620 ask questions, challenge assumptions, don't be afraid to speak up. Yeah. It's 379 00:14:38,620 --> 00:14:43,140 about being a participant. Yes. Not just a consumer. Exactly. The future of AI 380 00:14:43,140 --> 00:14:47,300 isn't set in stone. Right. It's something we're creating together. It feels like 381 00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:51,220 we've just scratched the surface. I know, right? We could talk about the stuff for 382 00:14:51,220 --> 00:14:56,580 hours and still only, like, barely cover it. Yeah. But for our... 383 00:14:56,580 --> 00:15:02,860 Maybe a little overwhelmed by all of this. What's the one thing you want them to 384 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:08,100 take away? Just remember that AI is a tool. It's a really powerful tool, but it's 385 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:12,940 still just a tool. Yeah. And like any tool, it can be used for good or bad. Right. It 386 00:15:12,940 --> 00:15:16,540 really all comes down to, like, who's using it and what their intention is. 387 00:15:16,540 --> 00:15:21,820 It's not about being afraid of AI or rejecting. No. No, no, no, no. It's about 388 00:15:21,820 --> 00:15:25,300 understanding it. Yeah. Both the good and the bad. Absolutely. And then figuring out 389 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:31,940 how to, like, integrate it responsibly. Exactly. AI is not this, like, predetermined 390 00:15:31,940 --> 00:15:36,700 force that's going to control our future. Right. We have a say in this. Yeah. We can 391 00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:41,660 shape how it develops. And we can make sure that it's actually used to make the 392 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:45,900 world a better place. Well, on that note, thanks for joining us for this deep dive 393 00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:49,860 into the world of AI. I hope you found it informative. Yeah. Maybe a little thought 394 00:15:49,860 --> 00:15:52,540 provoking. It's been great. Yeah. Yeah. And remember, 395 00:15:52,540 --> 00:15:58,220 Securious, stay engaged. Yeah. Stay informed. The future of AI really does depend on all 396 00:15:58,220 --> 00:16:15,020 of us. It does. 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