Hey, what's up, Toby? We have made it to another
week and we're remote today. Hey, we are freewheeling
totally untethered from the desk and I'm watching
clouds roll across the sky where I'm at from
calling in from my go anywhere truck. Nice. So
you're on the road. I'm parked actually at my
folks place. in southern Idaho, visiting some
family this week, doing a little stuff just for
me. Nice. I love it, man. I am I am remote calling
from Boise, Idaho. So we're both in the same
state today. It's good stuff. I like it. Usually
you are you are Eastern, but let's let's focus
on the topic. So today's topic is, you know,
we talk about corporate debt from a purse from
a big pitch. Yeah, the world of process debt.
Chris, I think I lost you. I don't know who's
getting recorded, but I'll continue until either
I rejoin or you rejoin. But we talk a lot about
our work lives and the process that we experience.
But there's also the notion of some personal
debt. And I think it shows up not just in the
relationships, right? These take time. We have
to make them perform, but I think, you know,
we often call them habits. We don't think about
it as our daily process. And so, you and I had
to be out of the office and kind of addressing
what are some of those social things, the things
that are just for us. And that little bit of,
you know, you're not going to call it balance
because there's no balance in this world, but
I think it's about prioritization. And, you know,
much like unmanaged debt, we also have... Relationships
we have some self -care that we have to inject
every now and then So no, isn't that isn't that
true? Like I what's interesting is, you know
I've been I have been going too hard and and
have not been focused and And it just feels like
everything in the world is suffering Isn't it
crazy how that happens? It's like a it's like
a tidal wave. We see it coming. It's generally
a real surprise Yeah, got away. You just got
away last weekend I think for a camping trip
a hiking trip didn't you with your daughter was
that two weeks ago? Yeah, you know what's what's
interesting is I went last week and I got home
and I was just in awe of Life it was very interesting
like I got I got away from the cubicle Yeah,
I went up into nature. We you know, my daughter
and I we went Too far, too fast, we took a wrong
turn. I had three terrible nights of sleep in
the woods. Of course. And yet I got home and
I literally could not sleep because I felt alive.
It was fascinating. I love that, brother. Isn't
it magical when we unplug for more than just
the eight hours of sleep at night? We're not
staring at screens all the time. Yeah, yeah.
Had and then what our experience and I think
some of it too is altitude, you know I'd live
at sea level over in the Portland, Oregon area
Yeah, I spent the weekend up in McCall Idaho
and about yeah thousand feet and So that air
smells fresher. There's a different quality to
the light, you know, yeah at night Yeah, dark
dark. I'm sure you felt that same way. Hi Yes,
totally What the the one the one interesting
thing is like so I went away I felt alive over
the weekend and This what's interesting is this
week has just ground me up And and I'm not not
exactly like it's almost like we it's almost
like I'm I'm addicted to the craziness and I
just need to I just need to mentally figure out,
like mentally just figure out what I'm doing,
where I'm headed, choose and go. It's easy. I
think when you, when you combine a versatile
skillset with an insatiable curiosity about the
world, there's never any reason to slow down
or stop because there's always one more thing
to throw your energy at. And, um, you know, and
again, back to the dead in general. that's kind
of an attention deficit. We're spread so thin
across so many things that it gets fatiguing.
We forget that drinking out of the fire hose
all the time has consequences or switching between
work and life. Chris, as you were saying that,
it made me think about folks that at this stage
of our careers, late forties and fifties, We
have a number of coworkers that have become good
friends that might be 15 or 20 years our senior
and watching them move into retirement. You know,
some folks are saying, Oh my God, I'm busier
than ever. And others are saying, I got to go
back to work. I don't know what to do with Quicksilver.
And so at least for my part, having spent a couple
of days offline and just out on a lake, looking
at these mountains and thinking, I have not a
blessed thing to do for the next afternoon or
whatever the case is, but maybe grill. Big obligation,
I'm going to have to grill. But I thought, you
know, when people talk about balance, I think
it's assumed that it magically happens and that
the workplace is going to drive that. When in
fact, just like processed debt, those are things
that go unserviced until you arrive at a place
of priority. And at least for me, Especially,
I've got some fun stuff. I have a nephew's wedding
this weekend. I'm excited to go see and celebrate
with them. But this last few days has just made
it so concrete that if I prioritize the things
that matter, this is unserviced, emotional, social,
relational debt. It's going to have a consequence.
Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What what's interesting,
you know, you're like you're saying those things
and I'm just sitting here thinking like what's
the principle Like what is what is the thing
that you can pay down? that reduces the debt
and Yet I look I look at my week and I'm like
I wasn't focused on the principle boy, I was
focused on only the interest payment and Then
at the end of the week at the end of the week.
I'm sitting, you know, you know At the end of
the week, I'm thinking, what did I pay down?
And I'm like, nothing. That feeling of all we're
doing is trying to hit the tennis balls back
over the net, right? And when we're in that reactionary
mode, it's not what we plan to do Friday afternoon,
going into the weekend. It's not even what we
plan to do driving into the office Monday morning
or logging into your office Monday morning. But
when all you do is react to all these things
coming at you, it's exhausting. I think on two
levels, one, We know there's bigger fish to fry.
There's principal payments that we're supposed
to be making to move the work forward, but we're
caught up in the thick of thin things. But when
I show up and say, hey, I have three critical
things to do this week, that brings such a different
level of focus or, and maybe this is true for
you, Chris, when I'm like, I'm getting out of
town Thursday at three, magically. I am the most
efficient monster and trade -off decision -maker
all day long Thursday Like that kind of laser
focus coupled with with me time. Yeah, I turn
into it I turn into a really efficient beast
and print. Yeah. Yeah, let's are just getting
knocked out left and right So, yeah Yeah Yeah,
yeah Yeah, it's it's interesting cuz like I just
sit in here thinking about my week and I'm like
What would have been different, you know, obviously
you take some time off the work doesn't the the
demands the demands pile up but that doesn't
necessarily mean that those demands are all equal
and You know, I bet you if I you know, I bet
you the key is like if I spent Okay, five minutes
just saying look this is my priority and this
is what I can do well this week Like what a difference
that would have made instead of you know me and
me actively engaging and Just burning myself
down It's a bit of a change of thinking a paradox
ship there You know, whatever my earnings are,
build a lifestyle that is 70%. And that other
30%. No, you're back. You sell off for a little
bit, but you're back. And we were having this
conversation about, you know, if you were to
turn on a radio station and all it was doing
was blaring at you without any white space, how
do you, how do you distinguish the notes? How
do you actually hear the music? It's just so
much noise. And so As we're having this conversation,
I started thinking about it. I thought, how am
I budgeting my time? You know, it's okay to work
very effectively 70 % of the time. If I put a
little bit of white space between me and a demand,
half the time it disappears because it's somebody
else being frantic and freaking out. And then
when they take a moment, they no longer have
a demand of me. And so this idea of like Creating
a little bit of white space spread letting things
just kind of evolve a little bit and not always
being so responsive Maybe that's that principle
right is to take a beat or two and stay focused
on our priorities as you mentioned Yeah Yeah
Yeah Amen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah,
it's you know, I've heard this before, but you
know, someone and I can't quote who had said
because, you know, again, this is the remote
the remote version. You know a process that we
are not going to return to the office We're gonna
do this wherever wherever the hell we want to
but I was just thinking of like amen We we forget
up we forget often times that we are not human
doings, right? It's where we are human beings
and part of that being is We were made to rest
on any of it That's a that's a tough one and
that's that's so critical for us to just sit
back Take that time or ourselves so that when
we are full of life like when we when we are
rested We can do the work because like nothing's
more satisfying than a little bit of challenging
work That's just a slightly above your skill
set So you gotta you gotta you gotta figure it
out because nothing is more better. Nothing's
better than that Yeah, yeah Say yeah Well said
because you're not in either Yeah, I love it.
Thank you, sir. Yeah. No for sure. I love it
Yeah, thank you. And thank you to all of our
listeners. All right. Yeah 100 % Yeah Yeah Yeah,
like just it's simple as be with yourself or
be with your work, but don't be in both places
Yeah, all right, man Yes, absolutely. Well, we
made it we made it through another one. Thanks.
Thanks for grinding with me, man All right, talk
to you soon Yeah I'm in.