1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,600 Set. Oh, oh, you said get set. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,840 We threw you threw off our whole rhythm, Toby. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,440 Hey, here we go. 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,040 What are we on? Twenty three. 5 00:00:08,040 --> 00:00:11,640 Yeah. Welcome to episode 23, sponsored by 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,180 not phabletics, not phabletics. 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,880 The jackasses that bill you arbitrarily when you accidentally purchase. 8 00:00:19,220 --> 00:00:21,480 Fabulous. That's awesome. 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,980 Raping your neighbor. 10 00:00:22,980 --> 00:00:24,760 Yeah. If not you. 11 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,920 Hey, anyway, that's enough about our non-sponsor phabletics. 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,920 That's right. 13 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,100 All right. Today we are talking about notification fatigue. 14 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:35,840 Processed that. 15 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:37,600 Chase. Yeah. 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,040 What happened when you mix? 17 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,340 It's not chocolate and peanut butter tastes great together. 18 00:00:42,340 --> 00:00:45,580 It's let's insert more technology into your process 19 00:00:45,580 --> 00:00:48,840 and then squander your limited time and attention. 20 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,840 What's going on in notifications for you? 21 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,220 I there it's interesting. 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,180 Notifications. 23 00:00:56,180 --> 00:00:58,720 It's really interesting because 24 00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:03,620 we kind of talked about this last time, but like that that idea of. 25 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:12,900 Being reactive is a definition of work is pervasive. 26 00:01:14,660 --> 00:01:15,660 Yeah. 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,840 Like if you just sit if you sit in any meeting that's remote 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,780 and you just watch the people just like literally just all you have to do 29 00:01:22,780 --> 00:01:24,280 is just try to stay engaged. 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,140 Like I'm going to I'm going to be here for the meeting. 31 00:01:26,140 --> 00:01:28,180 I'm going to be present for the meeting. 32 00:01:28,180 --> 00:01:30,820 And you will see a whole bunch of people with their heads down 33 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,680 because their phone went off. 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,020 And I'm not like by no means am I being a hypocrite here. 35 00:01:36,020 --> 00:01:38,320 Like I literally do the same thing. 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,120 You know, like the other the funny thing when COVID hit, 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,100 like the fun thing to do was to send your buddy a text 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,400 to see if they would crack up. 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,540 That has continued. 40 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:51,540 Like like I don't know. 41 00:01:51,540 --> 00:01:53,540 I don't know if I know anyone who did not do that. 42 00:01:53,540 --> 00:01:56,840 But but that's beside the point. 43 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,180 Yeah, it's you're right, though, the notifications. 44 00:02:00,180 --> 00:02:03,380 And and it's not just you've received you've got mail. 45 00:02:03,380 --> 00:02:08,480 You know, it's text messages and it's slack and it's social media. 46 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,480 And and then we have the digital household. 47 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,700 So it's your ring camera or your kids just got home and came through the garage. 48 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:20,140 Every process of our life. 49 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:23,400 When I heard, you know, your digital home and your digital life, 50 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,900 I thought what they meant was we're going to make things easier. 51 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:32,140 And I think the reality was we're just going to have everything scream at you 52 00:02:32,140 --> 00:02:36,040 like Minority Report, you know, that's that's how I feel today. Yeah. 53 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,620 So when's when's the last time that you actually opened 54 00:02:40,620 --> 00:02:43,720 a email marketing campaign? 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Oh, it you know, they have to have a good headline. 56 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:49,020 Oh, 100 percent. 57 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:53,200 And it was it was last week I opened one specifically 58 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,540 because I thought, I wonder if I can rip this off. 59 00:02:56,460 --> 00:03:00,140 Oh, oh, so it was more of like a hey, I like this headline. 60 00:03:00,140 --> 00:03:02,380 This is this is grabbing me. Let's steal it. 61 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:07,540 It was. But in full disclosure, I also subscribed to the theory 62 00:03:07,540 --> 00:03:09,780 that everything is this learning opportunity. 63 00:03:09,780 --> 00:03:13,360 And I think sometimes it's just an excuse because, you know, squirrel. 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,420 Yeah, I'm pretty easily distracted. 65 00:03:15,420 --> 00:03:16,920 And it was a good headline. 66 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:18,760 I thought, I wonder how I might repurpose this. 67 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,400 What about you? What's the last time you opened one? 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:26,400 I have been trying to unsubscribe on my Gmail. 69 00:03:28,740 --> 00:03:32,440 I so I this is embarrassing, but I got something on Poshmark. 70 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,720 I don't know. Oh, I know what it was. 71 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,080 It was it was a nice dress. I'm just kidding. 72 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,080 It wasn't a dress. It was a it was. 73 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,160 I think it was a mug. 74 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,560 It was a mug for the wife for Christmas, I think. Nice. 75 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,160 But because I was on it and because that's where I got it, 76 00:03:46,220 --> 00:03:47,860 they just hammer me all the time. 77 00:03:47,860 --> 00:03:52,540 So I like I'm like it's painful to unsubscribe to some of these things. 78 00:03:53,340 --> 00:03:55,160 And again, it's just notification. 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,900 Like I just got it's like it's like you've got it's like we've surrounded 80 00:03:58,900 --> 00:04:03,240 ourselves with a bunch of 80 DG children that are hawking their wares. 81 00:04:03,580 --> 00:04:05,840 It's out of control. 82 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Yeah. And that's just that's just in our personal lives. 83 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,240 Like the same goes on at work. 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,120 It's like, did you get the thing? Did you get the thing? 85 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,580 Like, it's crazy. Yeah. 86 00:04:14,580 --> 00:04:17,860 And well, in the part, you know, the one two punch for me is 87 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,060 ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, 88 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:22,760 in the Las Vegas kind of madness. Yeah. 89 00:04:23,300 --> 00:04:25,200 Everything I'm getting all these notifications. 90 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,340 And when I get one that is actually useful, 91 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:29,400 yeah, I can't just click it and go to it. 92 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,040 Now I click it and then I sign in. 93 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,140 And then ask me to go find something else to authenticate 94 00:04:35,140 --> 00:04:38,140 or let us send you an email because we don't trust you. Yeah. 95 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,540 And so, you know, it's it's kind of like TSA for me. 96 00:04:42,540 --> 00:04:46,440 And for all I know, TSA prevents thousands of 97 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,220 you know, nefarious things every day. 98 00:04:49,220 --> 00:04:52,680 I doubt it. But, you know, even one is good. Right. Yep. 99 00:04:53,220 --> 00:04:56,120 But on the off chance, 100 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,620 we all get naked to go into the airport and board our planes. 101 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,260 Or at least if I've been doing that, I get some odd looks sometimes. 102 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,100 You don't tell me to put my clothes on once I get struck down. 103 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:10,240 So I just assume. Right. 104 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,180 But Dale, man, you know, it's like, oh, here's 105 00:05:14,540 --> 00:05:15,840 on this other side of it. 106 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:20,240 We've gone so far overboard as we've digitized everything. Yeah. 107 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:23,680 Now I feel like I spend half my day trying to figure out two factor 108 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,360 authentications. Oh, yeah. 109 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,980 Minutes I'm going to approve a payment. 110 00:05:26,980 --> 00:05:30,160 Nope. It's going to take five minutes. Yeah. Right. 111 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,460 But bang, bang, bang. 112 00:05:32,460 --> 00:05:35,220 We've adopted Slack like a lot of organizations. 113 00:05:35,220 --> 00:05:39,300 And one of the things I love is that it's this nice asynchronous thing. 114 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:41,640 And if somebody sends me a note, I can follow up later. 115 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,980 I don't have to drop everything. Yeah. 116 00:05:43,980 --> 00:05:47,500 God forbid they give me a good headline that pops up in that little teaser. 117 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:49,980 Yeah. I'm going to drop everything. 118 00:05:49,980 --> 00:05:52,320 It's going to be like. I'm done. 119 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:55,080 Although I'm a little shocked that you didn't understand 120 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,560 that it was a strip search, like you just started stopped at stripped. 121 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,480 I'm a little concerned there, but. 122 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,620 Well, I was searching to see who else was stripping. 123 00:06:02,620 --> 00:06:04,560 I clearly misunderstood. 124 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,900 This is why I enjoy these. 125 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:10,360 I never know what I'm going to learn. 126 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,800 And you have no idea what I'm going to divulge. 127 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,680 So do notifications help? 128 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,440 If I had to choose between all or none. 129 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:25,280 It's no brainer for me. 130 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:27,420 What about you? I go back to the end. 131 00:06:27,420 --> 00:06:28,880 I'd go back to none. 132 00:06:30,580 --> 00:06:34,220 Like even just even just saying that out loud is all I can say. 133 00:06:34,220 --> 00:06:37,660 Like even just saying that out loud is almost like this kind of. 134 00:06:37,660 --> 00:06:43,940 Encouraging. Yeah, it's this encouraging like, oh, that could be really nice. 135 00:06:43,940 --> 00:06:46,140 Like not like. 136 00:06:46,140 --> 00:06:49,740 Like what would it be like to do like just some elegant, 137 00:06:49,740 --> 00:06:53,340 wonderful work where I'm stretching myself a little bit, 138 00:06:53,340 --> 00:06:56,880 doing something that I'm proud that I feel like has value. 139 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,720 And I'm not I'm not task switching so much. 140 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,020 Oh, man. 141 00:07:04,020 --> 00:07:06,260 I've talked in the past, I think. 142 00:07:06,260 --> 00:07:09,260 I don't remember if it was on the show, but this idea. 143 00:07:09,260 --> 00:07:12,320 Oh, there goes a notification in the background. 144 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,060 I'll be right back. No, I'm kidding. 145 00:07:14,060 --> 00:07:16,260 I'm staying with it. All right. 146 00:07:16,260 --> 00:07:18,060 But clearly, I just had hijacked. 147 00:07:18,060 --> 00:07:20,840 No, you know, the the task switching burns. 148 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:26,200 What I've read is about 20 minutes to resume the original task and get back into any level of focus. 149 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Yeah, but it is it's all those dings. 150 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,440 It's all the little flashes. 151 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:35,480 Yep. I think that's why the idea of leaving the house without a phone is so appealing. 152 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:42,760 Yeah. You know, is is that hey, silence mode. 153 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,460 The yeah, it's it's insane. 154 00:07:45,460 --> 00:07:50,500 And now that we have digital phones with us, it used to be we're talking in our earlier episode about, hey, 155 00:07:50,500 --> 00:07:53,460 you know where I'm at because you just all the number for my house. 156 00:07:53,460 --> 00:07:58,980 Yep. I don't know when it stopped being our convenience and technology became the master. 157 00:07:58,980 --> 00:08:03,640 You know, that's yeah, it's turned us into always on always working resources. 158 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,480 Yeah, it's crazy. It's nuts. 159 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:13,560 I don't know. Do you have do you have a strategy, you know, that something you do to try to get out of the notification and help? 160 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,960 Not as I'm not as disciplined as I want. 161 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,860 And I think some of that is because it depends on your business culture. 162 00:08:21,860 --> 00:08:28,100 Yeah. And if your business culture is that you have to always be responsive, then you will always be responsive. 163 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:36,580 And if that's what wins, like I think that the counter to that is that if you're responsive, your work is sloppy. 164 00:08:36,580 --> 00:08:42,580 It's there's just no way around it. Like you you will deliver sloppier work. 165 00:08:42,580 --> 00:08:50,220 You might deliver more like you might make it up on quantity like here's. 166 00:08:50,220 --> 00:08:54,620 But it's just it's sloppier. It's not well thought through. 167 00:08:54,620 --> 00:09:03,500 The one thing that I that I have tried in the past, you know, turning off going on, do not disturb. 168 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:06,500 Like, it's funny, I've turned it on and just forgot that it was on every once in a while. 169 00:09:06,500 --> 00:09:11,700 And I'm like, guys, this is great. You know, and all of a sudden, right afternoon, what is going on? 170 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:21,620 You know, my wife is getting mad at me because I didn't text her back, you know, like, but but it was magical while it was silent. 171 00:09:21,620 --> 00:09:26,340 But but I think I think that's one one thing there. There's a there's an application called Freedom. 172 00:09:26,340 --> 00:09:29,620 Freedom to I think that's what it's called. Oh, OK. 173 00:09:29,620 --> 00:09:36,460 Hold on. Let me just double check. That's who we should get to sponsor us. 174 00:09:36,460 --> 00:09:39,700 We should do that. We should call these we should actually. 175 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:43,580 OK, so freedom to like Quang face enjoy Orbison. 176 00:09:43,580 --> 00:09:47,620 No, no. Freedom to freedom to. 177 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:53,940 So freedom to you is that yeah, to so not not not not like dot com, but freedom. 178 00:09:53,940 --> 00:09:56,100 I want to thank you. OK. Freedom. 179 00:09:56,100 --> 00:10:02,140 Freedom to is basically an app that turns off applications or websites. 180 00:10:02,140 --> 00:10:04,820 And you can turn it on. It plays music. 181 00:10:04,820 --> 00:10:09,380 It'll turn off your phone. Like it basically like put it forces you to be in. 182 00:10:09,380 --> 00:10:14,940 Do not distract the mode. I don't use this as much as I I would like. 183 00:10:14,940 --> 00:10:19,860 And I don't know if I could actually install this on my work PC, but it is where you want it. 184 00:10:19,860 --> 00:10:23,180 Yeah, of course. Let's not talk about that. 185 00:10:23,180 --> 00:10:25,100 That's the sense of the object. 186 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:30,300 But but this is actually this is actually one of the better, 187 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:33,620 better tools that I've used because it just shuts everything down. 188 00:10:33,620 --> 00:10:38,780 Yeah, like it just forces you to to like not do anything, 189 00:10:38,780 --> 00:10:42,300 but whatever you're you're focused on. And that that's actually been pretty wonderful. 190 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:46,220 I do have I also have a timer that's like an egg timer that 191 00:10:48,060 --> 00:10:51,460 that actually shows the time like you guys can't see it. 192 00:10:51,460 --> 00:10:58,100 But but basically it's it's like it basically is it's like a regular egg timer, 193 00:10:58,100 --> 00:11:00,820 but it shows the it's called what is this? 194 00:11:00,820 --> 00:11:02,420 The time timer is what it's called. 195 00:11:02,420 --> 00:11:05,900 That's the other people we should get to sponsor us the time timer. 196 00:11:05,900 --> 00:11:09,460 But the time timer is timer it. 197 00:11:09,460 --> 00:11:12,180 The way that it works is it's just like an egg timer. 198 00:11:12,180 --> 00:11:14,740 But you see the actual kind of the countdown. 199 00:11:14,740 --> 00:11:17,220 It's almost like it's like a pie chart that's getting smaller. 200 00:11:17,540 --> 00:11:19,740 So it's from 100 percent all the way down. 201 00:11:19,740 --> 00:11:22,420 And so visually you can actually see the time change. 202 00:11:23,180 --> 00:11:26,180 And those are just those are two things that I've that I've used, 203 00:11:26,180 --> 00:11:28,500 that I've found somewhat helpful. 204 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:31,660 But again, like if I can't change the culture at work, 205 00:11:31,660 --> 00:11:34,620 which is I've got to be responsive. 206 00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:39,020 Because what what wins at work is responsive, then I'm just kind of stuck. Yeah. 207 00:11:39,020 --> 00:11:43,140 You know, it makes me want to set the out of office message when I'm in the office. 208 00:11:44,140 --> 00:11:47,780 They just as I'm in the middle of some really deep shit. 209 00:11:48,660 --> 00:11:50,460 And if this is important, come find me. 210 00:11:50,460 --> 00:11:52,660 But otherwise, I'll get back to you this afternoon. 211 00:11:54,260 --> 00:11:57,100 Maybe maybe that's that's not a that's a PG 13 word. 212 00:11:57,100 --> 00:12:01,060 So that may not work for all workplaces and audience recognizing that. 213 00:12:01,060 --> 00:12:03,260 Yeah, because you're right. It's. 214 00:12:05,460 --> 00:12:06,940 People don't know what you're doing. 215 00:12:06,940 --> 00:12:11,020 We don't have an on air flashing light like you might have in an old radio 216 00:12:11,020 --> 00:12:13,540 video that tells people I'm in the middle of something. 217 00:12:13,540 --> 00:12:15,700 You know, I'm a. Yeah. Yeah. 218 00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:18,700 Yeah, that's interesting. 219 00:12:18,700 --> 00:12:20,980 You know, some offices have the little hotel desks, 220 00:12:20,980 --> 00:12:24,980 like little hotel rooms where it's just basically single and you can, you know, 221 00:12:24,980 --> 00:12:28,860 that that has a little bit of a drawback because you don't have your set up. 222 00:12:28,860 --> 00:12:31,780 Right. So you're not on two screens, but you're less distracted. 223 00:12:31,780 --> 00:12:35,860 Right. So maybe maybe the reality is because we're less distracted. 224 00:12:35,860 --> 00:12:39,300 We feel less productive, but really are like I think we're so distracted 225 00:12:39,300 --> 00:12:41,140 that we don't even know we're distracted. 226 00:12:41,140 --> 00:12:42,740 Like, that's the crazy thing. 227 00:12:44,820 --> 00:12:50,060 When Wendy, when was the last time you felt truly productive for more than two hours? 228 00:12:50,540 --> 00:12:52,900 I've had some magical weekends. 229 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:55,460 I would say Saturday, Saturday morning. 230 00:12:55,460 --> 00:12:58,820 Yeah. My wife is she she works night, so she's up. 231 00:12:58,820 --> 00:13:00,700 She's up late quite a bit. 232 00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:02,860 Yeah. And then I tend to work. 233 00:13:02,860 --> 00:13:09,460 I work with with, you know, people that are in Europe and in Asia. 234 00:13:09,460 --> 00:13:12,340 And so that means I'm up really early. 235 00:13:12,820 --> 00:13:17,620 And so my the most magical times of my of my week are literally 236 00:13:17,620 --> 00:13:21,980 seven thirty or six a.m. on a Saturday till about 10. 237 00:13:22,540 --> 00:13:27,100 Wow. And I like and it's it's stuff that I choose choose to do. 238 00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:30,940 It's magic. It's it's literally the funnest part of my week. 239 00:13:30,940 --> 00:13:33,860 Isn't that crazy? And sometimes it'll be work. 240 00:13:33,860 --> 00:13:38,700 Sometimes it'll be me dinking around with a GPT or something or an LLM or, 241 00:13:38,700 --> 00:13:41,780 you know, messing around with data like it might be something, 242 00:13:41,780 --> 00:13:43,980 but it's something that I want to do. 243 00:13:44,460 --> 00:13:48,460 And at the end, I oftentimes just feel very satisfied. 244 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:53,500 And it's it's because no one's asking of my no one's distracting me. 245 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:55,060 It's the weird. It's just weird. 246 00:13:55,060 --> 00:13:59,060 Like, and again, like if we went 200 years, you know, 247 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:02,660 200 years ago, like I think we would they would look at us like we're crazy. 248 00:14:03,380 --> 00:14:08,380 Right. But I mean, that's I think that's the reason why so many of the, 249 00:14:08,380 --> 00:14:11,380 you know, the founding fathers of the U.S. 250 00:14:12,620 --> 00:14:15,900 so much of their writing actually, I guess, was done in the middle of the night. 251 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:19,580 Right. Because lights go out. 252 00:14:19,580 --> 00:14:24,180 We don't have modern electricity and people only sleep for three or four hours. 253 00:14:24,180 --> 00:14:26,380 They'd get up for a couple hours and then go back to bed. 254 00:14:26,380 --> 00:14:26,780 Yeah. 255 00:14:26,780 --> 00:14:31,260 And and I've heard that described when this was recounted to me 256 00:14:31,260 --> 00:14:33,660 as one of those most productive times. 257 00:14:33,660 --> 00:14:36,180 Yeah. Because maybe everybody's not up in your household. 258 00:14:36,180 --> 00:14:38,060 Yeah. That's awesome that you found a window. 259 00:14:38,060 --> 00:14:42,820 I think I think kind of like knowing the food that feeds you and makes you feel good. 260 00:14:42,820 --> 00:14:47,260 Yeah. You know, similarly, not all hours in the day are equally valuable. 261 00:14:47,260 --> 00:14:49,060 Yep. And so that's awesome. 262 00:14:49,060 --> 00:14:51,780 It happens to be on a weekend where it's fully in your control. 263 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:54,260 Yeah. And not on the clock. 264 00:14:54,260 --> 00:14:57,980 So that's great. Well, hey, quick, guys, we're wrapping up. 265 00:14:57,980 --> 00:15:02,860 Just want to say thanks to our friends in the Bay Area, Knob Hill neighborhood. 266 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:04,820 There you go. Thank you for tuning in. 267 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:08,420 Love it. Your your patent 268 00:15:09,420 --> 00:15:12,860 denial of the Fabletics tribe is much appreciated. 269 00:15:12,860 --> 00:15:15,700 Yeah. Thanks for not paying them anything. 270 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:17,660 Yeah. Don't don't pay for that blood stuff. 271 00:15:17,660 --> 00:15:19,420 Yeah, that's right. All right, man. 272 00:15:19,420 --> 00:15:21,260 Thank you. Yep. 273 00:15:21,260 --> 00:15:24,620 Take care. See you. Bye.