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Right, so today we're gonna dive into something pretty cool.

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We're talking about Michael B. Jordan.

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Oh yeah.

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You know, Creed, Black Panther.

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But it's interesting because his physique

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in these films was just amazing.

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It was incredible, the transformation, absolutely.

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But you know, a lot of people are wondering,

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was it all natural or is there something else going on?

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Was it just dedication?

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Or was there some Hollywood secret?

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Yeah, like Hollywood magic.

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So yeah, a lot of people are wondering that

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and that's kind of what we're gonna be looking into today.

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Yeah, and I think what's really interesting

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is that this goes beyond just one actor.

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This really kind of speaks to the pressures

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of Hollywood in general.

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You know, these actors being expected

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to have these almost superhuman physiques

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and you know, what lengths they go to

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in order to achieve that.

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Right, yeah, exactly.

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And to really break this down,

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we've got some great stuff from an article

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about Jordan's sickness journey.

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But before we get into all that,

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the training, the diet and all that crazy stuff,

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let's just like set the scene.

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Yeah.

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So when Michael B. Jordan first appears in Creep.

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Oh yeah.

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It's a game changer.

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I mean, he looks completely different

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from any of his previous roles.

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It was a whole new level.

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Right. Yeah.

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He just embodies that boxer look.

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Like he was ready to take on Rocky.

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And look like a champion, yeah.

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Yeah, and then Black Panther.

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He somehow manages to level up even further.

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I know.

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This like warrior physique just on full display.

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Yeah, it was mind blowing.

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It was crazy.

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And that's when the whispers started, right?

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Like, okay, what's really going on here?

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Because the use of steroids in Hollywood

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is this kind of open secret.

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It's something that people kind of know about.

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Right.

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But they don't necessarily talk about openly.

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But you know, with the pressure to look a certain way

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and these really tight filming schedules,

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you can understand why some might be tempted by a shortcut.

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Totally, yeah.

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You know?

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And look, it's hard enough just to fit in

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like a trip to the gym.

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Let alone train like a superhero.

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But here's where it gets really interesting

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because there's actually a pretty good argument

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that Jordan did all this naturally.

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That's right.

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Like naturally.

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Like no crazy stuff.

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His trainer, Corey Caliette, has been very vocal

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about Jordan's just insane dedication.

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I mean, we're talking six days a week.

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Wow.

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Hardcore workouts, a mix of weightlifting, boxing.

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Oh wow.

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Cardio.

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Really?

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Oh wow.

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And then on top of that, a very, very strictly controlled

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high protein diet to fuel that muscle growth

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and to maintain that incredibly low body fat.

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Oh wow.

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So it's like the diet's a huge part of it too.

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It's not just the workout.

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Huge part of it.

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You can't outrun a bad diet.

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And Caliette, he's basically a transformation expert.

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He is, yeah.

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I mean, he's known for helping actors achieve

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that functional fitness too.

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Like they don't just look the part.

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He can do it.

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They can actually do the stuff.

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Like think about those fight scenes in Creed.

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That was intense.

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Incredibly demanding.

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And like he had to be able to do that.

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And that's what Caliette's approach does.

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He makes sure that they not only look amazing,

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but that they can actually perform at that level.

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And another thing that kind of supports this idea

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of natural transformation

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is that Jordan's physique evolved gradually over time.

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Oh, okay.

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It's not like he just suddenly became

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a completely different person.

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You can actually look back at his career

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and see how he steadily progressed.

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I mean, he was in good shape before Creed,

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but clearly he just took it to this whole other level.

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Right, he wasn't starting from scratch.

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Exactly, it was a progression.

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Right, you don't just transform your body overnight.

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It takes time and effort.

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Consistency.

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Yeah, consistency.

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So that gradual change, that's pretty telling.

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But let's be real.

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I mean, no one's saying that supplements

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weren't part of this.

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Of course.

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Right, anyway.

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Things like protein powder, BCAAs, creatine.

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These are pretty standard these days.

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Especially if you're training as intensely as Jordan was.

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I mean, these are common legal supplements.

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That are pretty much accepted across the board

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in the fitness world.

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They help with recovery, they help with muscle growth.

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Big sense.

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And that's really important when you're

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pushing your body that hard.

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Right, you gotta help your body recover.

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And speaking of recovery, it's not just

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about hitting the gym 24-7.

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Right, you can't go hard all the time.

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You need that balance.

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rest and recovery too.

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Probably rest days, making sure he's getting enough sleep.

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Potentially even things like massage or cryotherapy.

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All those things help.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

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But you know, even with all this pointing

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to a natural transformation, there

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are some people who are still skeptical.

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Oh, there are definitely doubters.

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For sure.

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So let's hear it.

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Why are some experts raising an eyebrow

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at Jordan's transformation?

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comes down to the speed and the extent of his transformation.

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They say that even with perfect training and diet,

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it's almost impossible to put on that much muscle

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and lose that much fat that quickly

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without a little extra something.

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So they're basically saying it's too good to be true.

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That's the gist of their argument.

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OK, so we've got the believers, we've got the doubters,

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and we've got a whole lot of speculation.

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It's a fascinating debate.

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It is.

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But I mean, even if we just entertain the idea

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for a second, like, wouldn't using something like steroids

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come with some serious risks?

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You're talking potential heart problems, liver damage,

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messing with your hormones.

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The list goes on.

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It's not something to take lightly.

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No, not at all.

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And you know, the risks would definitely

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outweigh any potential benefit.

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Sure, sure.

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And it's important to remember that we're

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talking about somebody's health.

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And let me be clear.

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Like, we are not endorsing or glorifying steroid use at all.

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We're just having, like, a factual discussion.

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We're looking at all the possibilities,

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not advocating for one side or the other.

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So I guess the question is, is there

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anything else we can look at to kind of try and figure this out?

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Well, here's an interesting point.

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Jordan has maintained a pretty impressive physique

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even after those films wrapped.

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Yeah, he hasn't, like, completely reverted back.

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I mean, he's not walking around looking

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like he did in Black Panther.

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But he's definitely still in great shape.

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who might rely on steroids for a role

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find it incredibly difficult to maintain that muscle mass once

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filming ends.

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It's like their bodies haven't truly adapted.

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without continuing to use.

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your body's not really, like, learning

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how to do it on its own.

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That's the idea.

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They haven't built that natural foundation.

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towards a natural transformation.

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It's definitely something to consider.

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Right, like, his body's not reliant

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on anything artificial.

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To, like, achieve or maintain.

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know about his dedication, his commitment he put in the work.

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All right, let's take a step back.

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We've talked about the intense training, the super strict diet,

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the expert guidance from Caliette,

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the fact that his physique evolved over time,

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and now this sustainability factor.

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All of this seems to suggest that a natural transformation

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is entirely possible.

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Yeah, it does seem that way.

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But then we have these lingering questions

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about the sheer speed and the intensity of his gains.

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So where do we land?

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What's the verdict?

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I feel like we're dealing with a puzzle where

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we're missing a couple of pieces.

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What's your take?

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that ultimately we can't know for sure without concrete

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evidence.

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And there's just no proof at this point

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that suggests Jordan used steroids.

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Right, so we're going off of what we know.

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on what we know about his journey, what

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and about the realities of Hollywood.

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Right.

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It's a complex issue.

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It is.

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So we're left to weigh the evidence

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and come to our own conclusions.

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But here's what I find really interesting.

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Regardless of how he achieved it,

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Jordan's transformation, it says a lot about an actor's

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commitment to their craft.

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Absolutely.

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Like the lengths they're willing to go to.

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It's really quite impressive.

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I mean, I can barely commit to finishing a bag of chips,

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let alone transforming my whole body.

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I know, right?

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It makes you think.

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It does.

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It really makes you think about the discipline they have,

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the sacrifices they make.

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And honestly, it's a testament to what the human body

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is capable of.

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Absolutely.

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Inspiring and maybe a little intimidating.

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Yeah, a little bit of both.

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OK, so we've really gone deep into the world of Michael B.

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Jordan and this amazing transformation.

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We looked at the evidence, the arguments,

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the pressures of Hollywood.

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It's a multifaceted issue.

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It is.

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But let's maybe shift gears a little bit.

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OK.

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Instead of focusing on the how, what if we focus on the why?

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What could we learn from all of this?

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That's a great question.

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What are the key takeaways that go beyond just the speculation,

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you know, the rumors?

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Yeah, exactly.

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I think first and foremost, achieving a physique like that,

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regardless of the methods, it takes an incredible amount

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of dedication, an incredible amount of commitment.

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We're talking about pushing your body to its absolute limits

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day in and day out.

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It's like a second job.

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It really is.

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It's not just the working out.

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It's the planning, the meals, the sleep.

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It's a whole lifestyle change.

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You're exactly right.

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You're prioritizing your sleep.

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You're meticulously planning all your meals.

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You might be incorporating massage, recovery, therapies,

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all of that.

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Wow.

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So it's like a holistic approach.

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Absolutely.

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And that's something we can all learn from, you know,

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even if we're not training for a movie role.

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For sure.

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It's about understanding that real transformation, you know,

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whatever area of your life it is,

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takes time, consistency, and that commitment

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to your well-being.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

347
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And another important point is that while there's

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this huge fascination with this idea of Jordan using steroids,

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there's actually no concrete evidence to back that up.

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Right.

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It's all speculation at this point.

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It's all just rumors.

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And while it's important to acknowledge that it can happen,

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it's also important to not make assumptions about individuals

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without concrete proof.

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Right.

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In a sense, until proven guilty.

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Exactly.

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We should give credit where credit is due

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and acknowledge the hard work, the effort that

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went into his transformation, however it happened.

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So it's more about celebrating that dedication and hard work.

363
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Absolutely.

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Focus on the positive.

365
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Yeah, rather than getting caught up

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in all the rumors and speculation.

367
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Yeah.

368
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But I mean, I guess we also can't shy away

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from the elephant in the room, like we mentioned earlier.

370
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The potential dangers of steroid use are very real.

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Very real.

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And it's not just about looking ripped.

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There are serious health risks involved.

374
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Yeah.

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Like we said earlier, they can mess with your hormones,

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damage your organs.

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Increase your risk for all kinds of problems.

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And you know, it's just not worth it.

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Absolutely not.

380
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There are much safer, much more effective ways

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to build muscle and improve your fitness

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without resorting to these shortcuts.

383
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Right.

384
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Your health comes first.

385
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It should always come first.

386
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There's no need to take those unnecessary risks.

387
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So we've got the dedication factor,

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the evidence-based thinking, and the dangers of steroids.

389
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That's a lot to think about.

390
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It is.

391
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What else can we take away from all this?

392
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Well, I think Jordan's journey really

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emphasizes the importance of having that expert guidance.

394
00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:53,640
Oh, yeah.

395
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He didn't just try to figure this out on his own.

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He had a professional, Corey Calliet,

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who designed a personalized plan just for him.

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That makes sense.

399
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It's like having a coach.

400
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It is.

401
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It's like any other field.

402
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If you want to excel, you need a coach.

403
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You need a mentor.

404
00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:08,800
Right.

405
00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,040
You wouldn't expect to become a pro athlete just by yourself.

406
00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:11,760
Exactly.

407
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And fitness is no different.

408
00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,520
Having someone who understands the science of training,

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the nutrition, the recovery, it makes a huge difference.

410
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And maybe helps you avoid injury.

411
00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:22,800
Exactly.

412
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Safety first.

413
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Yeah.

414
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So having that coach or mentor can really change the game.

415
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It's a game changer.

416
00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,280
OK, so we've talked about the dedication, the evidence,

417
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the dangers, the expert guidance.

418
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But I feel like there's one more big picture lesson here.

419
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OK, I'm intrigued.

420
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What is it?

421
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This has been on my mind like the whole time.

422
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Yeah.

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Michael B. Jordan's story, regardless of how he did it,

424
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it really highlights the fact that we

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are constantly bombarded with these images of perfect bodies.

426
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Oh, it's everywhere.

427
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It's everywhere you look.

428
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Magazines, social media, movies.

429
00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,200
Exactly.

430
00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,400
And it's easy to get caught up in those comparisons.

431
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And develop these unrealistic expectations.

432
00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:02,760
Exactly.

433
00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,640
You know, we see these actors, these superheroes,

434
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and we think, oh, I need to look like that.

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I need those abs.

436
00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,840
But what we don't always see is the work, the discipline,

437
00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,360
the whole team of professionals that

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are behind these transformations.

439
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And we certainly don't see the potential downsides.

440
00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:17,760
Right.

441
00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:18,520
Exactly.

442
00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,040
The risks they might be taking.

443
00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,360
So it's all about perspective.

444
00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,480
Perspective is everything.

445
00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,880
Being critical of those images that we're consuming.

446
00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:25,520
Absolutely.

447
00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,080
Remembering that there's no one size fits all.

448
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Everyone's different.

449
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What works for one person might not work for another.

450
00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:32,680
Exactly.

451
00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:36,600
And what we see on screen, it's not always a realistic or even

452
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healthy goal for everyone.

453
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And sometimes what we see isn't even real.

454
00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:41,240
Right.

455
00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,720
Movie magic, don't forget.

456
00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,280
Exactly.

457
00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:43,800
Yes.

458
00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,560
OK, so we've done it.

459
00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:48,720
We've explored this fascinating world of Michael B. Jordan's

460
00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,680
transformation, the evidence, the speculation,

461
00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:53,400
the pressures of Hollywood.

462
00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,480
What a journey.

463
00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,520
It really makes you think.

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It does.

465
00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,800
And it leaves us with some really valuable insights

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about fitness, body image, the whole Hollywood scene.

467
00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,160
It's all connected.

468
00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,160
Yes, yeah.

469
00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,240
But as with any deep dive, there's always more to uncover.

470
00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,560
And that's where you come in, our awesome listeners.

471
00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:12,240
That's right.

472
00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,280
What are your thoughts?

473
00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,360
What stuck with you from this conversation?

474
00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,000
Yeah, we want to hear from you.

475
00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,560
What are you still thinking about?

476
00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,080
What questions are still kind of floating around in your head?

477
00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:21,600
Yeah.

478
00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,280
But even as you're thinking about all that,

479
00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,720
there's one more thing I think we should touch on.

480
00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,200
OK.

481
00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,080
We've talked about the physical stuff, right?

482
00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,480
The training, the diet, all the speculation

483
00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,160
about the steroids, the Hollywood pressures.

484
00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,520
But what about the mental side of things?

485
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Oh, yeah.

486
00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,840
We didn't really talk about that too much.

487
00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,840
The mental and emotional aspects of a transformation this big.

488
00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,680
Yeah, you're right.

489
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It's easy to focus on what you see, the outside,

490
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but the mental strength.

491
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The mental fortitude.

492
00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:50,960
Yeah.

493
00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,280
That's just as amazing.

494
00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,120
Think about it.

495
00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,880
The discipline, the focus, the sheer willpower

496
00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,800
to push yourself that hard every single day,

497
00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,000
to stick to that diet, to get through those workouts,

498
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,240
it's incredible.

499
00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,720
It's like running a marathon.

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00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,120
But instead of 26 miles, you're pushing your body

501
00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,000
to the limit for months.

502
00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,040
Exactly.

503
00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,800
And then on top of that, knowing that millions of people

504
00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,040
are going to be watching you.

505
00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,240
Oh, yeah, the pressure.

506
00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:16,800
Judging you.

507
00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,920
The level of scrutiny that actors face, it's intense.

508
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Crazy.

509
00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,080
So that has a whole other layer to this.

510
00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:22,840
It does.

511
00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,720
So how do you mentally prepare for that?

512
00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,520
How do you develop that level of focus, that resilience?

513
00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,080
Yeah.

514
00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:31,800
How do you do it?

515
00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:32,960
That's the question.

516
00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,840
It really makes you realize that it's not

517
00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,080
just about physical strength.

518
00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,360
It's about mental toughness.

519
00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,480
It's about mental toughness.

520
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,120
Absolutely.

521
00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,760
It's about resilience, about persevering,

522
00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,040
about overcoming obstacles.

523
00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,320
And those are just as important as any workout.

524
00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,480
Those are life skills.

525
00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,760
They are, yeah.

526
00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,880
It's a good reminder that real transformation

527
00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,160
isn't just about the outside.

528
00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,840
It's about pushing your limits.

529
00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:54,960
Pushing those boundaries.

530
00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,440
Yeah.

531
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,240
Physically, mentally, emotionally.

532
00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:57,760
Exactly.

533
00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,520
And it's about recognizing that the journey,

534
00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,280
the whole process, with all the ups and downs,

535
00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,760
it can be just as rewarding as the end result.

536
00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:07,880
That's so true.

537
00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,080
So we started by looking at Michael B. Jordan's

538
00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,520
physical transformation.

539
00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,760
But we ended up talking about so much more.

540
00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:14,480
We did.

541
00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,360
The power of the human spirit, like overcoming challenges

542
00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,800
to achieve something incredible.

543
00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,800
It's inspiring.

544
00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,080
And that's really what these deep dives are all about.

545
00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:23,840
Yeah.

546
00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,000
We start with one thing, but end up

547
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,160
uncovering a whole bunch of other stuff along the way.

548
00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:28,960
Exactly.

549
00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,920
So if you're as fascinated by these topics as we are,

550
00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,440
you can find more deep dives like this one on our website,

551
00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,880
publichealthlaw.net.

552
00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,360
We've got tons of cool stuff there waiting for you.

553
00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,520
We do.

554
00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,800
So keep learning, keep asking questions,

555
00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,200
and keep pushing those boundaries.

556
00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:44,720
That's right.

557
00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,840
Whatever they may be.

558
00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:46,800
Until next time.

559
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Keep diving deep.